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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: From day one. I knew you were something special.

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Speaker 3: He saw the video of her wedding.

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Speaker 4: Here's a body, there's a body. He appears dead.

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Speaker 2: I had quite a journey to get to you.

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Speaker 5: Six stained bullets, a motive for murder. He's been bubbling

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Speaker 5: and brewing and simmering, just pure hatred.

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Speaker 6: It was his final dominance and triumph.

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Speaker 3: If I can't have you, no one else will.

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Speaker 7: On December thirty, twenty twenty five, at approximately ten oh

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Speaker 7: four am, Columbus Police Patrol officers were dispatched to the

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Speaker 7: fourteen hundred block of North Fores Street on a well

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Speaker 7: being checked. Officers arrived at scene and located the two

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Speaker 7: adult victims suffering from apparent gunshot wounds. We now know

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Speaker 7: that they were identified as mister Spencer and missus Monique Techy.

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Speaker 7: Their two small children are also found in the resident

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Speaker 7: physically unharmed.

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Speaker 5: Who would murder a husband and wife in their own

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Speaker 5: home around Christmas? Leaving their children They're tots upstairs to

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Speaker 5: come down the next morning and find mommy and daddy dead.

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Speaker 5: Everybody and their brother was calling nine one one about

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Speaker 5: the dentist not showing up to work and the wife

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Speaker 5: not picking up the phone.

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Speaker 1: Police go to the scene but say nothing.

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Speaker 8: Listen, I guess I would like to ask for a

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Speaker 8: wellness check on an individual at their home. This individual,

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Speaker 8: Spenter works with me, and he did not show up

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Speaker 8: to work this morning, and we cannot get a hold

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Speaker 8: of him or his family. He is always on time

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Speaker 8: and he would contact us that there is any issues whatsoever.

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Speaker 8: And at the centeral house to say, this's like, we're very,

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Speaker 8: very concerned because this is very out of character and

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Speaker 8: we can't get in Dutch with his wife, which is

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Speaker 8: problem with the more concerning things.

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Speaker 9: When doctor Spencer Tempe doesn't show up for work at

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Speaker 9: Athens Dental Depot in Columbus, Ohio, coworkers are so shocked

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Speaker 9: they call their boss, the owner of Athens Dental, doctor

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Speaker 9: Mark Valrose. Valrose is on vacation in Florida, but Spencer

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Speaker 9: not showing up is so unusual coworkers felt the need

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Speaker 9: to let Valros know. Valroz tries to contact Spencer and

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Speaker 9: failing at that, Teppi's wife, Monique, as she's even more

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Speaker 9: predictable than her husband. Unable to reach either Tempee, Valroz

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Speaker 9: calls nine to one one in Columbus, Ohio, at nine

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Speaker 9: oh three am, requesting a wellness check.

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Speaker 10: Let's see emergency there. Our boss did not report for work.

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Speaker 6: We haven't been able to get a hold of.

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Speaker 10: Them for three hours.

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Speaker 11: We are on site and.

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Speaker 12: We can hear.

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Speaker 10: Okay, I go off to somebody there. Okay, I'm just

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Speaker 10: making sure somebody call them.

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Speaker 13: Officers arrive at the Tepee residence at nine twenty two am.

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Speaker 13: Officers knock on the front door multiple times but get

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Speaker 13: no response. Checking the door and windows, officers see no

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Speaker 13: sign of disturbance. At the back door off, Officers again

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Speaker 13: knock multiple times, no response, repeating the process. Officers failed

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Speaker 13: to get a response and file the report in their

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Speaker 13: log book. No response.

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Speaker 5: So all these nine one one calls are coming in.

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Speaker 5: The dentist hasn't shown up. The dentist hasn't shown up.

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Speaker 5: Why are they that upset about a teeth cleaning or

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Speaker 5: a cavity being filled? Let's listen to more.

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Speaker 10: Okay, we do have officers responding there. Do you know

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Speaker 10: if he's been ill or anything like that?

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Speaker 4: No, No, I was just continues today.

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Speaker 10: Let's the emergency there, Please are medical.

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Speaker 4: Maybe both I guess I don't know.

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Speaker 14: I'm kind of doing well.

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Speaker 10: We had a call out there. They knocked on the

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Speaker 10: front door and back door multiple times and there was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no answer.

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Speaker 4: I can hear kids inside, and I swear I think

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Speaker 4: I heard one yell, but we can't.

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Speaker 5: Get in straight out to investigative reporter, journalist, author of

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Speaker 5: Down the Hill, My Descent into the Double Murder in Delphi.

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Speaker 5: You know her well, Susan Hendrix. Susan, thank you for

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Speaker 5: being with us. So I'm not sure. I'm just playing

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Speaker 5: a selection of nine one one calls to dispatch.

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Speaker 1: Who's getting more and more pod.

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Speaker 5: That's a Latin phrase from law school, and.

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Speaker 1: They're like, we send somebody. They and they left.

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Speaker 5: Nobody answered. But then you've got neighbors and coworkers now

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Speaker 5: all walking around the house and they hear a child

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Speaker 5: screaming inside, and the dispatch officer just really was just

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Speaker 5: too busy doing her nails.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Nancy. You could hear it in her voice and

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Speaker 2: her pauses. Even I was listening to all the nine

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Speaker 2: one one calls and she's thinking, he's just like for work.

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Speaker 2: She has a preconceived notion about what's going on here.

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Speaker 2: But the first call is what is a bit odd

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Speaker 2: to me. It came in around eight fifty eight. The

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Speaker 2: office opens at eight a m. Spencer lives about seventy

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Speaker 2: three miles from work, so if you put the timeline together,

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Speaker 2: he's what. Let's an hour later work and someone's calling

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Speaker 2: nine one one for a wellness check. To me, that stands.

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Speaker 1: Out right now.

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Speaker 5: My mind is stuck on the neighbors and the coworkers

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Speaker 5: walking all they finally go to the home. Now, remember, Dispatch,

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Speaker 5: while she's doing her nails, has just said, did we

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Speaker 5: send somebody out there? They knocked on the door, nothing happened.

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Speaker 1: Okay, listen to this.

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Speaker 13: Another friend calls nine to one one and tells the

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Speaker 13: dispatcher they haven't been able to get into the house

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Speaker 13: and he thought he heard one of the children yelling.

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Speaker 13: Other friends arrive at the Teppee home, as well as

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Speaker 13: coworkers who are walking around the house, some in the front,

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Speaker 13: some in the back. Nine one one Dispatch is receiving

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Speaker 13: calls back to back from the same address, each trying

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Speaker 13: to get help for their friends, not knowing others we're

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Speaker 10: What's changed since the last person I talked to?

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Speaker 4: There's a body. There's a body.

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Speaker 10: Here's a body inside. Yeah, okay, hold on one second,

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Speaker 10: let me get you on the line with the medic. Okay,

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Speaker 10: on the line.

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Speaker 4: Appears dead.

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Speaker 5: There's a body inside. Wow, talk about egg.

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Speaker 1: On her face. Let's hear the rest of that.

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Speaker 4: Nine on one's a body. Our friend wasn't in transphone.

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Speaker 4: We just did a well of ship. We just getting

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Speaker 4: here and he appears dead. Okay, this blood she's laying

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Speaker 4: next to his bed, off of his best in his blood.

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Speaker 4: I think people ashore too more than that.

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Speaker 14: Okay, they can tell he's obviously not reading ornything? Is

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Speaker 14: it like how to like like how to you know?

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Speaker 14: Because it doesn't look great.

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Speaker 4: I can't, I can't look Okay, all right, I understand.

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Speaker 5: Tom Smith, a veteran NYPD, now star up Goal Shields podcast.

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Speaker 1: Tom.

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Speaker 5: The casings were found on the scene. I believe three cases.

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Speaker 5: What does that tell you, Tom?

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Speaker 1: No weapon, And that's why they're saying it's not a murder.

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Speaker 5: Suicide because how can you shoot the spouse and shoot

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Speaker 5: yourself and the weapon.

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Speaker 1: Walk out the front door, So it's not murder suicide?

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Speaker 1: What do you make of the casings?

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Speaker 15: The casings are interesting. Because I don't think, you know,

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Speaker 15: it's been speculated a couple of times that it's a

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Speaker 15: professional hit. A professional is going to take the casings

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Speaker 15: with him. The fact that they're left there is just

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Speaker 15: someone who did what they wanted to do. And I

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Speaker 15: do believe this was a targeted hit and then just

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Speaker 15: got out of there when they could and didn't weren't

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Speaker 15: concerned about the casings. But the casings are so vitally

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Speaker 15: important in this because of the DNA evidence from it.

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Speaker 5: Joining me right now is a military vet sharp shooter

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Speaker 5: CoA Lorimar uh CoA. Thanks for being with us very quickly.

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Speaker 5: I want to follow up on what Tom Smith just said.

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Speaker 5: Explain to me how show me how DNA can be

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Speaker 5: left on a casing when loading a gun, preferably a

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Speaker 5: nine but any gun.

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Speaker 16: Well, Nancy, this right here is a nine millimeter round.

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Speaker 16: The top part is the bullet and the back part

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Speaker 16: is the casing. Now, you can get DNA off this

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Speaker 16: casing by fingerprints and sweat and whatever else they have

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Speaker 16: on their hands when loading the weapon. So this is

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Speaker 16: how you load magazine right here. And also there are

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Speaker 16: certain marks that are left on the casing after the

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Speaker 16: round is fired. Now this is the pistol, a pistol

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Speaker 16: that this round can be fired from. The bulks out

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Speaker 16: the front and the casing is ejected out of the side. Now,

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Speaker 16: the firing pin leaves a mark on the back of

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Speaker 16: the casing, which is unique to the weapon. Then the

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Speaker 16: extractor leaves scratches on the casing, which is also unique

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Speaker 16: to the weapon, and the ejector leaves dense on the casing. Now,

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Speaker 16: all these marks can be traced straight back to the

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Speaker 16: weapon it's fired from, and that could link the suspect

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Speaker 16: to the gun. You can also link the suspect to

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Speaker 16: the casing based on the fingerprints they get off the

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Speaker 16: casing itself.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I see what you're saying, Tom, Thank you CoA.

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Speaker 5: Who would shoot these two dead?

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Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like a pro to me.

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Speaker 5: In the home in a very congested neighborhood, the houses

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Speaker 5: are like this, up and down, like two and three story,

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Speaker 5: one after one after the next. So there's got to

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Speaker 5: be a ring doorbell cam and I'm going to show

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Speaker 5: you the video of who may be the perp, This

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Speaker 5: could be the killer. Susan Hendrix described what are we

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Speaker 5: seeing here and why is this significant?

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Speaker 2: I have to say, Nancy, that would appears to be

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Speaker 2: a back alley of sorts, and this is at of course,

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Speaker 2: at odd time two to five am. It appears to

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Speaker 2: knows the area because you see him kind of ducking

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Speaker 2: or maybe knowing there's a camera in the vicinity. Is

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Speaker 2: knows where he's going.

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Speaker 5: Dave mac joining me, Crime Stories, investigative reporter.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the video.

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Speaker 5: Susan's already told us it was between two and five am,

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Speaker 5: and how does that jibe with the time we believe

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Speaker 5: the killings went.

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Speaker 9: Down based on the timeline that police have already created, Nancy,

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Speaker 9: they say that they're talking about two am to five

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Speaker 9: am at the time that this action took place inside

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Speaker 9: the home, and that timetable we're looking at for the

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Speaker 9: guy walking in the alley is during that time period.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious about the neighborhood.

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Speaker 5: I don't see anybody else walking around between two and

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Speaker 5: five am. See the person walking. It looks like people

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Speaker 5: part their cars as you like you pull in in

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Speaker 5: front of the house. See on both sides of the street,

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Speaker 5: I see cars parked in front of the homes, like

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Speaker 5: where you put your trash out right there on the street.

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Speaker 1: They look to.

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Speaker 5: Be condos or two three story narrow homes.

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Speaker 1: So why is he walking up and down in.

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Speaker 5: A residential area at five o'clock two o'clock am, Sasan,

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Speaker 5: What can you tell me about the neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: I do know that there's only one bar in the

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Speaker 2: area that's open, because Spencer's brother in law came out

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Speaker 2: to say, like, hey, let's not jump to any conclusions.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it is the murder, maybe it's not. And there

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Speaker 2: is just one bar that's open at that time. So

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Speaker 2: was he there. I'm sure the investigators are going there

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Speaker 2: to decide. It just seems odd, right This street looks

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Speaker 2: very different by the way, Nancy, as you stated during

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Speaker 1: So this is a residential area.

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Speaker 5: Who is this guy walking up and down right near

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Speaker 14: Actually, ansy.

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Speaker 9: The next video is captured behind the home. There's an alley.

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Speaker 1: Video from ws YXABC six.

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Speaker 5: Tonight new evidence of an eerie door banging riddle near

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Speaker 16: We all smoking the wind doors.

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Speaker 10: Good time? Okay, someone's singing a knock in? Do you

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Speaker 10: know who this is? Do you have a description of them?

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Speaker 5: Does it never end with these dispatch officers?

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Speaker 1: Uh? What does she want the victim to do?

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Speaker 5: Go out and say hi, come on in by the way,

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Speaker 1: And can I get a good id.

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Speaker 5: On you right now, completely, completely not helpful. Also, it's

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Speaker 5: several eleven days before the Dennis and his wife are murdered.

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Speaker 17: Columbus police respond to a domestic dispute call the Tappy

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Speaker 5: Much has been made about a prior we think domestic call.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean?

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Speaker 5: That means typically a man and a woman are arguing

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Speaker 5: It's from this home, It's from the home of the victims.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen to it.

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Speaker 14: I name one one. We just got to hang up call?

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Speaker 14: Is everything? Okay?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm a case ay, sure, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 14: Well it sounds like you're crying. Do you need police,

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Speaker 10: No, No, I'm okay, I'm just emotional.

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Speaker 14: Can I ask what had you call a name one

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Speaker 10: But I'm okay, I promise.

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Speaker 14: Did anything ever get physical? No, you guys are just arguing.

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Speaker 14: Nobody hit each other. Yeah, okay, all right, man, Well

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Speaker 14: I have the information here, I can go ahead and

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Speaker 5: Finally a nine to one one dispatch officer that sounds

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Speaker 5: interested and like they care about what happens. Now, Susan Hendricks,

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Speaker 5: there has been some discussion that that is not the

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Speaker 2: Monique, Absolutely Spencer's brother in law marriage to Spencer's sister,

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Speaker 5: You know. Another issue Tom Smith joining me former NYPD,

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Speaker 5: what would have been the motivation at two o'clock in

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Speaker 5: the morning at best. To bam on a door just

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Speaker 1: Seems far fetched to me. This seems like it was

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Speaker 15: Yeah, well, we know there's no fourth entry, so that

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Speaker 15: it's somebody they know, or they knocked on the door

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Speaker 15: The entry of just getting in is still unknown, and

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Speaker 15: that's what you know part of this investigation is going

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Speaker 15: to be. Another telling sign is the children not being harmed,

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Speaker 15: was in my mind, an absolute targeted hit of one

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Speaker 4: This was a.

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Speaker 3: Targeted domestic violence attack the resulted in the deaths that

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Speaker 4: The lives of their children.

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Speaker 5: Anyways, colleagues and brands, what could be the motive.

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Speaker 9: Investigators get all available surveillance video from the Tebbi neighborhood,

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Speaker 9: One car with an Illinois license plate arrives in the

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Speaker 9: to Michael McKee, a vascular surgeon in Chicago. McKee is

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Speaker 5: Well, it wouldn't be the first time that a vehicle

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Speaker 5: Stories investigative reporter. I noticed that in some of the details,

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Speaker 9: What do you think it is They have evidence that

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Speaker 9: We do not know exactly what evidence that might be,

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Speaker 7: Detectives file warrants charging Michael D. McKee thirty nine, with

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Speaker 7: Monique Teppee. Mister McKee was arrested in Rockford, Illinois without incident.

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Speaker 7: He's currently incarcerated in the Winnipego County Jail in awaiting

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Speaker 1: We believe at this.

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Speaker 7: Point we have the person responsible for the murders of

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Speaker 5: Dave mac Is it true that vascular sergeant doctor mca

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Speaker 9: He was Nancy. The guy is just acting like there's

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Speaker 9: the ATF was there on site.

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Speaker 1: Nancy, Why did the ATF arrest him?

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Speaker 9: It came down to a lie. Doctor Michael McKee lied

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Speaker 9: He provided a false residency form of information and that

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Speaker 7: Crime stores with Nancy Grace, multiple weapons were taken from

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Speaker 2: Did you find any other evidence in his forman Lincoln Park?

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Speaker 7: What I can tell you is that we did search

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Speaker 1: They've got evidence.

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Speaker 5: They were observed lugging box after box after box out

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Speaker 5: of vascular surgeon doctor McKee's penthouse apartment there at Lincoln Park,

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Speaker 5: straight out to a special guest joining US tonight. CoA

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Speaker 5: Lorn Moore, thank you for being with us. Former Army

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Speaker 5: sniper sharpshooter. I want to talk to you about the weapons.

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Speaker 5: You just heard Columbus Police Chief Elaine Bryant state that

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Speaker 5: there is a preliminary match from evidence found in the home.

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Speaker 1: I ate the gun.

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Speaker 5: I don't know where they found it in the home,

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Speaker 5: in the car, doesn't matter for your purposes. But they've

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Speaker 5: got a to the bullets fired at the scene where

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Speaker 5: they lodged in the body. Did they ricochet off the wall,

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Speaker 5: Were they stuck in the wall, Were they stuck in

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Speaker 5: the matches? Were they stuck in the floor, doesn't matter.

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Speaker 5: They're saying they've got a match. Now, before I get

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Speaker 1: How would you write something on the bullet?

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Speaker 16: Well, Nancy, you could take a dremal tool and then

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Speaker 16: you take the casing of the bullet like I have

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Speaker 16: the lengths of engraving something on that agree.

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Speaker 5: Now let me ask you this CoA. What if we

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Speaker 5: learn the defendant, the surgeon, doctor McKee, created his own ammunition. Yes,

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Speaker 5: people actually do that. That would leave a trail a

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Speaker 16: So you need a special machine that they used to

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Speaker 16: create a bullet like this, and then you take all

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Speaker 16: the components. You take the primer on the back, the

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Speaker 16: you press it all together. This is common practice with

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Speaker 16: precision shooters, people that do it for sport, pretty uncommon

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Speaker 5: Dan Murphy joining us from our NYPD Detective sergeant, co

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Speaker 5: star of gold Shields podcast and author. Dan he had

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Speaker 1: There's no way he didn't leave a trail.

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Speaker 18: Absolutely, his cell phone is going to be hanging off

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Speaker 18: He's also probably having to stop for gas, bathroom breaks,

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Speaker 18: He made purchases, he got food, he did something along

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Speaker 5: Now we learn about a silenc sir, come on, I

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Speaker 5: tell me this was not premeditated. To Susan Hendricks joining

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Speaker 5: US investigative reporter, journalist and author of a bestseller, Down

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Speaker 5: the Heel My Descent into the Double Murder and Delphi, Susan,

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Speaker 5: many people didn't know about the allegation a suppressor was used,

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Speaker 5: which requires a lot of a forethought. Right, you've got

447
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Speaker 5: to match it to your gun. You got to set

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Speaker 5: it up up, you've got to get it. Who needs

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Speaker 5: a suppressor? Who needs a silencer? We learned about it

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Speaker 5: in this indictment. Tell me about the indictment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Nancy, And that's an excellent point. He did plan

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Speaker 2: it out, according to this indictment, charged with four counts

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Speaker 2: of aggravated murder and three counts of the aggravated murder

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Speaker 2: include exactly that having a silencer, and the fourth one

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Speaker 2: includes just brandis Shane or showing the firearm. It appears

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Speaker 2: he planned more of what to do rather than the

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Speaker 2: aftermath of it.

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Speaker 9: Monique Teppe married vascular surgeon Michael McKee in August twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 9: but separated as a couple after just seven months. The

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Speaker 9: couple had no children. Monique stated the reason for the

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Speaker 9: divorce was they were incompatible. After living separate and apart

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Speaker 9: for a year. Divorce proceedings began in May twenty seventeen

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Speaker 9: and the divorce was final the next month.

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Speaker 5: Oh my stars, they blinked their eyes and the marriage

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Speaker 5: was over and they were living separately during it, Doctor

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Speaker 5: Bethany Marshall, that happened, I think ten years ago. It

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Speaker 5: was ten years ago. Monique has moved on. She's married

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Speaker 5: this dentist. They're totally happy.

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Speaker 1: They have two babies.

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Speaker 5: What and now, out of the blue, can I tell

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Speaker 5: you something I found out, doctor Bethany, Brace yourself. So

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Speaker 5: in the divorce, McKee claimed her engagement ring and wedding

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Speaker 5: ring were his and she had to pay him back

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Speaker 5: for that. And then there was a miscellaneous balance of

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Speaker 5: twelve hundred dollars, and he said, if you don't pay

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Speaker 5: me back that twelve hundred dollars by X date, you're

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Speaker 5: getting charged twenty three percent interest.

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Speaker 1: I think I know why she left him.

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Speaker 6: Well, that gives us insight into the marriage. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 6: think about it. The first seven months of a marriage

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Speaker 6: or the time of heightened idealization where you see nothing

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Speaker 6: wrong with the other person. They are on a pedestal.

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Speaker 6: So if a marriage breaks off that quickly, something is

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Speaker 6: really really wrong. And given Monique's history with the current marriage,

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Speaker 6: it's not Monique.

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Speaker 5: At this time, we know the state is building its

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Speaker 5: case against vascular surgeon doctor McKee. Just think about this guy.

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Speaker 5: He excelled in everything he did. That's his mug shot.

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Speaker 5: He excelled at everything. He played football on a very

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Speaker 5: high level in college. He was dazelous honor student in

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Speaker 5: undergrad He was a star student in medical school.

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Speaker 1: He went on to become.

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Speaker 5: A vascular surgeon, certified to practice in multiple jurisdictions. Just

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Speaker 5: before the two Monique and her husband are shot dead,

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Speaker 5: he gets sacked with a malpractice suit, a pretty serious one,

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Speaker 5: and another claim that one patient actually lost his because

497
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Speaker 5: of McKee very serious complaints, and then he ghosts everybody.

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Speaker 5: He leaves that jurisdiction and disappears to where even a

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Speaker 5: PI can't find him, and just starts all over again

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Speaker 5: in another jurisdiction.

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Speaker 1: Could he move that surreptitiously?

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Speaker 5: Which leads me to how long had he been surreptitiously

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Speaker 5: stalking Monique?

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Speaker 1: There? She is Monique and the.

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Speaker 5: First starter husband Michael McKee, the vascular surgeont it was

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Speaker 5: just for seven months.

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Speaker 1: It was nearly ten years ago.

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Speaker 5: And he brewed and bubbled and simmered and stewed for

509
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Speaker 5: nearly ten years till he makes an over three hundred

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Speaker 5: mile trek to shoot.

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Speaker 1: Her dead in bed with her husband, her children in

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Speaker 1: the room next door. This is what we've learned. Listen.

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Speaker 19: She was terrified because he had threatened her life on

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Speaker 19: multiple occasions when they were married. She wasn't shy about

515
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Speaker 19: talking to people about traumatic experiences that she had with

516
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Speaker 19: her ex, and just how emotionally abusive he was to her.

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Speaker 19: If any of us had known that these threats were

518
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Speaker 19: actually grounded impossibility, we all would have acted differently. Myself

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Speaker 19: and many others were well aware of kind of the

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Speaker 19: negative impact that he had on her. She was willing

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Speaker 19: to do anything to get out of there.

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Speaker 5: From our friends at NBC and GMA, that is the

523
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Speaker 5: brother in law Ron. This was speaking out doctor Michael

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Speaker 5: McKee turned murder defendant ex girlfriend Spakes.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen.

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Speaker 12: He did tell me a little bit about his divorce

527
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Speaker 12: at the time, So again I want to preface this

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Speaker 12: with this is his side of the story and what

529
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Speaker 12: he spoke to me. This is not truth. This is

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Speaker 12: obviously very biased, but what he told me was that

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Speaker 12: one that he came home from residency and that week

532
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Speaker 12: had vanished, like she took everything, She left the house

533
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Speaker 12: completely empty and also took their dogs. He was just

534
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Speaker 12: left very stunned because he didn't see this coming and

535
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Speaker 12: he was like completely devastated.

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Speaker 5: This is a woman who I believe to be a

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Speaker 5: medical doctor that says she is mckey's ex girlfriend. She

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Speaker 5: seems reliable and credible and in the moment, you're going

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Speaker 5: to see photos of her with McKey and her family.

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Speaker 12: He didn't really talk about his parents. He did tell

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Speaker 12: me he was adopted by an older couple and he

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Speaker 12: just like they were good parents, but he just never

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Speaker 12: talked about them. He never talked to them. I would

544
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Speaker 12: call my mom like every day.

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Speaker 9: We would.

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Speaker 12: We have a great relationship, but he was just much

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Speaker 12: more reserved. He never really when I asked him more,

548
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Speaker 12: he just didn't really want to talk about it. So

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Speaker 12: I kind of left it at that. This is him,

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Speaker 12: This is a celebrating New Year's with a bunch of

551
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Speaker 12: my friends and family, and this is me right here,

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Speaker 12: and that's him, which is crazy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so she's lying.

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Speaker 5: She's gone to great links to photoshop pictures which looked

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Speaker 5: very real to me.

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Speaker 12: Listen, he also has been to my family home. That's

557
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Speaker 12: him right there. This is me and my family members.

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Speaker 12: But it's honestly shocking, and I'm grateful that the word

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Speaker 12: protected me from moving forward in that relationship.

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Speaker 5: The ex girlfriend has now deleted her TikTok. She was

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Speaker 5: at TikTok at s Rummy.

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Speaker 13: In a dating profile on Bumble, McKee refers to himself

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Speaker 13: as Mike, claims to be thirty two, and in the

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Speaker 13: about me section writes lucky to have work I find

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Speaker 13: meaningful and increased free time for new things. Currently trying

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Speaker 13: hot yoga. Way less flexible than I recall planning trip

567
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Speaker 13: by itineraries to finally make use of global entry and

568
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 13: hopped on an electric motorcycle. Haven't died yet. He also

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Speaker 13: says he wants children someday now.

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Speaker 5: In the dating profile, he is beaming and the photographs

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Speaker 5: showing off his tan, suggesting a real outdoorsman wearing a

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Speaker 5: lilac sweat over a white button down posing for some

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Speaker 5: reason with a kid's lunchbox which shows the name Mike

574
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Speaker 5: and a dinosaur. I guess that's because he's Michael and

575
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 5: asks people to call him Mike. But he talks about

576
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Speaker 5: how he wants children. But he's alone. He's running from

577
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 5: multiple lawsuits, including one guy who had to have his amputated,

578
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 5: another guy claiming he had a part of a cather

579
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 5: stuck in his less shard stuck in his leg out

580
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 5: after surgery. So he's alone, running from lawsuits, running from

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Speaker 5: process servers, and he watches this over and over look.

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Speaker 2: From day one, I knew you were something special. I

583
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Speaker 2: had quite a journey to get to.

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Speaker 20: You, countless bad bumble, dates, wrong relationships, and waterfalls of tears,

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Speaker 20: But it was worth every cringing second because it led

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Speaker 20: me to you.

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Speaker 11: Throughout all of this, I knew that God was guiding

588
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Speaker 11: me to my person and that when I met him,

589
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Speaker 11: it would be the most magical thing ever.

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Speaker 21: And boy, is that an understatement.

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Speaker 11: I finally found my lobster, and it honestly couldn't be

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Speaker 11: a person with.

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Speaker 2: A more beautiful heart. I will love you forever, and

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Speaker 2: I'm so lucky to be missus.

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Speaker 22: Teppy, dear Momo. I feel so lucky to be up

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Speaker 22: here with you today. You've grown to become my best friend,

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Speaker 22: and together we're surrounded by friends and family who are

598
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Speaker 22: fortunate to be able to say the same. We're so lucky.

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00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 22: Our support system is immense, and you embracing Larry, my

600
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Speaker 22: crazy group of friends, and my loud family like you

601
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Speaker 22: have means the world. I vow to support you, to

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Speaker 22: believe in you, and to encourage you. I vow to

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Speaker 22: provide for you. I vow to never stop loving you,

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Speaker 22: and I always keep working on us. And lastly, I

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Speaker 22: vowed to do my best to always keep making you

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Speaker 22: laugh because your smile is my favorite thing. I love you.

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Speaker 1: How many times?

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Speaker 5: Daryl Cohen will his digital footprint show me you're the

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Speaker 5: veteran trial lawyer if he looked at that even once

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Speaker 5: I get to play it in front of the jury.

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Speaker 3: That's all we need, Nancy, That's all a prosecutor needs.

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Speaker 3: And what are we going to see? A motive or murder,

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00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 3: a motive to destroy his ex wife, to destroy her

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Speaker 3: husband and at the same time destroying their kids.

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Speaker 5: Let's go straight in that courtroom where the ex husband

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Speaker 5: of seven months, ten years ago Waltz is into court.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a look.

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Speaker 5: Ryely keys that from our friends at W B N

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Speaker 5: S ten. I'm about to go to Franz Borghart, veteran

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Speaker 5: criminal defense attorney, trying to figure out how much money

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Speaker 5: I and the rest of the taxpayers are spending on

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Speaker 5: this guy that now has to be extradited, probably with

623
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Speaker 5: how many, how big of a fleet of security?

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Speaker 1: What are they going to do? Give first class service?

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00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 5: Is he going to get a warm roll and a

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00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 5: drink with that? Let's watch that one more.

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Speaker 1: Time, all the table again from W B and S ten.

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00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: Did you see that warhearts?

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Speaker 5: Did you see that he's perfectly saying he knows exactly

630
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 5: what's happening, and not a flicker of emotion on his face,

631
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Speaker 5: not one ounce, not one drop, one scintilla of remorse.

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Speaker 9: Pesky constitution Nancy.

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Speaker 5: He's presumed innocent.

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00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 18: I guess he should just roll in and say you

635
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 18: got me. Let me save you a bunch of time.

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00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,439
Speaker 1: Okay, did I ask you that? That's not That's what we.

637
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 5: Call and responsive to the question, not one ounce of remorse.

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00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: He has simmered for ten years.

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00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 5: Then he goes online and he sees his wife's wedding video.

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00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 1: And he can't stand it. Let's go back into court

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00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: and take another look at it.

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00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 23: Ed speak with yes, you're what's your position, but yes,

643
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Speaker 23: at this time your mother let me have to mister McKee.

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Speaker 23: I will assert his right to counsel. I will assert

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Speaker 23: his right to remain silent. And mister McKee believes that

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Speaker 23: the most expeditious manner in which you may depend himself

647
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 23: against the charges pending in Ohio and to lead, if

648
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 23: not empty, would be to wait his right to an extradition.

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Speaker 10: Paris and to have a governed warrant, and.

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Speaker 23: To agree to his immediate transportation to Ohio. Understood, Thank you.

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Speaker 9: Much, Thanks very.

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Speaker 1: Not from w s y X, ABC six. Also in

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Speaker 1: the courtroom.

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Speaker 5: In the meantime, during our last live chat during the

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Speaker 5: airing of our program, a viewer noticed this do not

656
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Speaker 5: discount any evidence as being insignificant.

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Speaker 1: Let's see. Okay, watch him walk, he pulls to the right.

658
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Speaker 5: He pulls to the right one more time in the courtroom,

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Speaker 5: the courtroom video. He pulls to the right when he

660
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 5: walks to the right, to the right, to the right.

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00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 5: There he goes and stands, goes to the right. Now

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Speaker 5: that's from wbnstn TV our friends.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 5: Now, let's look at the video. Well, to the right,

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Speaker 5: to the right, he pulls to the right on every step.

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Speaker 5: Now we've just gotten in video of doctor Michael McKee's

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Speaker 5: book him.

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Speaker 1: There he goes, there, he goes.

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Speaker 24: See it.

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Speaker 5: Let's see that again. That was very That may be

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Speaker 5: the I don't know what causes that. He does not

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Speaker 5: have any football injury. He played varsity football at an

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Speaker 5: elite level, I think in college.

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Speaker 1: There he is in his bookend this right here. You know,

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Speaker 1: he just looks like any other dude walking.

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Speaker 5: Around in his flip flops at the pharmacy of the cony.

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Speaker 25: You know, just.

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Speaker 5: But to think that he could have unloaded a full

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Speaker 5: mag on Monique IRV Brandt joining me. Former Senior Inspector

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Speaker 5: US Marshall Service International Investigations Branch. IRV Brandt, I want

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Speaker 5: to talk to you about extradition. You have traveled all

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Speaker 5: over the world tracking people down. How hard do you

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Speaker 5: think it was to track this guy down? He might

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Speaker 5: as well have run home and hidden under his mother's

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Speaker 5: bed for Pete's sake, Nancy.

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Speaker 26: From what it appears being in the ex husband, I

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Speaker 26: don't think it took the authorities much time to identify

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Speaker 26: him then track him, because it doesn't appear that he

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Speaker 26: went into hiding, so they arrested him relatively quickly.

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Speaker 5: You know, IRV Brant, I don't think nearly two weeks

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Speaker 5: is quote relatively quickly. Maybe his plan was to blend

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Speaker 5: in and act like nothing happened, but he led law

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Speaker 5: enforcement on a wild.

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Speaker 1: Goose chase for nearly two weeks.

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Speaker 5: He covered his tracks, he parked away from the crime scene,

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Speaker 5: he hid his face, He did elut police for nearly

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Speaker 5: two weeks.

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Speaker 1: Does nobody watch True crime?

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Speaker 5: Reportedly, the monster surgeon blurts out an alibi before he

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Speaker 5: immediately invokes his right to the Fifth Amendment, but it's

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Speaker 5: too late.

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Speaker 1: He's busted in a.

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Speaker 5: Lie, joining US an all star panel, but first rate

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Speaker 5: out to crime Stories.

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Speaker 1: Investigative reporter Dave Matc What happened, Nancy.

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Speaker 9: It seems as though before his arrest, police actually got

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Speaker 9: up with doctor McKee and asks, hey, where were you

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Speaker 9: on this particular night on December thirtieth, not an uncommon

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Speaker 9: thing to do with an ex spouse. And his story, Nancy,

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Speaker 9: is that he had booked a room at his hospital

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Speaker 9: where he's a surgeon, OSF Saint Anthony Medical Center in Rockford, Illinois,

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Speaker 9: and that that's where he was the entire night. Investigators

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Speaker 9: are able to bust that wide open.

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Speaker 5: Joining me now, the investigative reporter for The Mirror and

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Speaker 5: the Irish Star, Yelena Mandenburg rot Row. Oh what a

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Speaker 5: tangled web we weave when first we practiced to deceive busted?

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Speaker 5: What happened, Yolina?

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Speaker 27: Well, he left his phone at the hospital and he

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Speaker 27: booked a sleep room at the hospital where he's a surgeon,

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Speaker 27: which would be a normal, believable thing many many doctors do.

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Speaker 27: He left his phone, which we assume allegedly if he

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Speaker 27: went out there was so it doesn't ping off the

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Speaker 27: cell phone dours and so everything looks legit. However, all

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Speaker 27: investigators had to do was probably check the video feed

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Speaker 27: and the surveillance videos from the hospital where he works.

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Speaker 27: It's really easy to overcome that alibi, even though it

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Speaker 27: seems very legitimate for a doctor like him.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Dave Matt, I understand that you have uncovered a

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Speaker 5: smation as to how long that cell phone stayed in

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Speaker 5: the hospital cot.

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Speaker 9: We know, Nancy, in this particular case, police were able

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Speaker 9: to find out that doctor McKee's cell phone was left

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Speaker 9: in a cot at the hospital for fourteen hours.

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Speaker 1: Now, how did this happen?

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Speaker 5: Because I know he immediately blanketed himself in the Fifth Amendment,

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Speaker 5: which is of course the right to remain silent. So

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Speaker 5: how is it that McKee said a word yet also

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Speaker 5: evoked his Fifth Amendment privilege?

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Speaker 9: Any questions that were asked of McKee happened before they

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Speaker 9: put the cuffs on him, before he's getting his chicken sandwich.

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Speaker 9: So think about it, Nancy. As police began an investigation,

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Speaker 9: the first call is, hey, where were you? You know

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Speaker 9: your ex wife is dead and we need to know

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Speaker 9: where were you during this time. We know you didn't

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Speaker 9: do it, but you know, we got to have it.

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Speaker 9: And so that's where he immediately blurted, apparently, and that's

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Speaker 9: where it starts. Nancy, he already locked himself in and

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Speaker 9: again his phone being left in a cod for fourteen

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Speaker 9: hours kind of fits into the rest of the premeditation

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Speaker 9: of this case and tonight.

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Speaker 5: A careful reading of this affidavit reveals that Monique and

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Speaker 5: Spencer's neighbors dor cam or surveillance video catch the so

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Speaker 5: called monster surgeon ex husband lurking around their home while

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Speaker 5: they're out of town in Indianapolis had a big ten championship.

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Speaker 1: Game number one. How did he know they were gone?

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Speaker 5: Had it been posted online? We know Monique had no

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Speaker 5: social media presence. Was she afraid he was stalking her?

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Speaker 1: I guess?

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Speaker 18: So?

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Speaker 1: How did he know that? Had he hacked into their emails?

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Speaker 5: That said, the neighbor's surveillance video catches him, Michael McKee,

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Speaker 5: the vascular surgeon once married to Manique, like ten years ago,

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Speaker 5: stalking their home. I believe he gets in their home

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Speaker 5: because that video shows him entering the.

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Speaker 1: Quote kurtiledge, what is curtilage.

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Speaker 5: Let's take a look at the fence that encloses the

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Speaker 5: Teppee backyard their back area. You can see that their

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Speaker 5: backyard is totally enclosed.

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Speaker 1: By a fence.

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Speaker 5: And if you look at this wedding photo that had

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Speaker 5: been posted online, not by Monique, and I'm sure McKee

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Speaker 5: looked at it many many times. You can see how

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Speaker 5: tall the fence is. This area would be the curtilage.

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Speaker 5: This is behind the tepee home straight out to Elena

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Speaker 5: Mandenburgh joining us, what did you learn from reading this affidavit?

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Speaker 5: What did you learn appeared on the neighbor's surveillance video?

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Speaker 27: Well, a number of new things with the Athada. It's explosive.

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Speaker 27: And since we're already talking about the alleged stalking that

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Speaker 27: the neighbors caught on the camera, it was also the

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Speaker 27: same day that they were at that big ten game

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Speaker 27: and Monique had gone home early. Her friends noticed she

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Speaker 27: went home early in the second half because she was

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Speaker 27: upset about something regarding her ex husband. Either she or

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Speaker 27: Spencer went into detail with their friends, but they did

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Speaker 27: let their friends know. So did she get a note

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Speaker 27: from the neighbors text, did she spot him on a camera,

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Speaker 27: or did he send her a message while he was

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Speaker 27: there to possibly psychologically mess with her. So we don't

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Speaker 27: actually know how she found out, but we know she

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Speaker 27: was upset about something that day enough to go home

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Speaker 27: from a whole trip from a whole game with her

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Speaker 27: friends to go home and deal with it. We actually

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Speaker 27: also don't know if she let her husband know, if

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Speaker 27: she realized that McKee was stalking her. We don't know

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Speaker 27: if she let her husband Spencer know. She could have

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Speaker 27: felt like she is managing this stalker could have been

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Speaker 27: something that's happening frequently enough. Because if we know that

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Speaker 27: he went inside her home, the neighbors caught her on video,

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Speaker 27: there's no police report. She never went to the police

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Speaker 27: even if she did know that he was getting into

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Speaker 27: her home. And there is one line, one line from

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Speaker 27: the affidavit that especially stuck out to me that wasn't

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Speaker 27: just illegal, but illegal and creepy. It's alleged, if true,

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Speaker 27: she had told her friends that he had threatened her,

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Speaker 27: you know, not just during their marriage and after their marriage,

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Speaker 27: but at least once he said that he would find

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Speaker 27: her by the house right next to her and that

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Speaker 27: she will always be his wife.

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Speaker 21: McKee has spotted multiple times driving his silver SUV near

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Speaker 21: Monique in Spencer's home before the murders. Vehicle has unique

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Speaker 21: features such as a sticker on a window and stolen

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Speaker 21: Ohio license plate. The registration for the suv is linked

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Speaker 21: to past addresses. McKee previously lived in the hospital where

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Speaker 21: he worked.

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Speaker 5: Doctor mcke's suv is caught circling and circling Monique's home,

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Speaker 5: not just the night of the murders, but.

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Speaker 1: Before that, many many times.

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Speaker 5: And then, to make matters worse, his suv is seized

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Speaker 5: in the hospital parking lot while the good doctor is

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Speaker 5: at work, Like, that's not embarrassing. He had scraped off

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Speaker 5: a very identifiable sticker in between the time and the

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Speaker 5: murders and the time his car, his vehicle was seized.

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Speaker 5: I understand his vehicle had a stolen Ohio license as

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Speaker 5: well as displaying at the same time an Arizona license.

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Speaker 1: Like that's not going to get the attention of the police.

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Speaker 5: Dave mac tell me about mckey's vehicle.

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Speaker 9: You know, I don't think people realize that when you

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Speaker 9: scrape something off, you leave residue behind. And it's not

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Speaker 9: just that sticker that he scraped off that was so obvious, Nancy,

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Speaker 9: it's the cumulative effect of all of the things associated

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Speaker 9: with that suv that is directly tied to McKee. You've

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Speaker 9: got the stolen Ohio license plate, You've got the Arizona

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Speaker 9: tempt tag both tied to McKee or former employers. And

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Speaker 9: then that sticker. You've got this sticker on the vehicle

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Speaker 9: that is tracked on video. They can see it. It's

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Speaker 9: right there. They know the location of the sticker, they know.

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Speaker 10: What it is.

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Speaker 9: And then when they find his car in the parking

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Speaker 9: lot in Rockford, Illinois where he works, Oh wait a minute,

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Speaker 9: it's not there anymore, but we see the scrape marks

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Speaker 9: where it was taken off in a hurry.

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Speaker 5: Crime stores with Nancy Gray deep deep in court filings,

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Speaker 5: we learn that Monique Tepi was shot multiple times, not

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Speaker 5: just Spencer, Monique as well her children in the next room.

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Speaker 1: Listen.

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Speaker 9: The autopsy report indicates Monique we shot nine times, Spencer seven.

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Speaker 9: Monique was shot in the right hand, right forearm, right

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Speaker 9: side of her torso, one shot to the right cheek,

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Speaker 9: and three gunshot wounds to the right chest. Spencer was

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Speaker 9: shot in his left ear, left side of the neck,

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Speaker 9: left upper chest, left lower chest, left hand, left upper back,

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Speaker 9: and the right arm near the elbow. The injuries to

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Speaker 9: Spencer's hand and right arm also could indicate he was

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Speaker 9: trying to defend himself or Monique.

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Speaker 5: Elena Mandenberg, joining US investigative reporter for The Mirror, The

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Speaker 5: Irish Star, The Express. Elena, what do we know and

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Speaker 5: we're learning this from the autopsy. It's called the coroner

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Speaker 5: report there and it's very disturbing. From the Franklin count

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Speaker 5: Forensic Science Center. What have we learned to not, Elena.

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Speaker 27: Well I said before Monique Tepe shot nine times, while

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Speaker 27: Spencer Tepe was shot seven times, sixteen bullets between them.

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Speaker 27: The Franklin County Office of the Corner determined that Monique

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Speaker 27: Teppe was shot once in the face, three times in

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Speaker 27: the chest, twice in the upper left arm, and once

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Speaker 27: on the right side of her tour so, once in

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Speaker 27: her right forearm, and once in the hand. Gunshot wounds

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Speaker 27: of head, trunk and extremities with visceral, skeletal and soft

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Speaker 27: tissue injuries, says the report. In the autopsy, they were

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Speaker 27: able to recover two bullet fragments left in the humorous

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Speaker 27: fracture site, which means soft organ damage. It hit the lungs,

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Speaker 27: it hit the liver, skeletal damage when the bones broke

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Speaker 27: when the bullets hit them. Spencer tepping Is autopsy says

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Speaker 27: he suffered seven gunshot wounds also to the head, neck, trunk,

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Speaker 27: and extremities with viscerals, keletal, and soft tissue injuries. Once

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Speaker 27: in the head, once in the neck, three times in

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Speaker 27: the tour so twice in the upper extremities, and a

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Speaker 27: bullet was also recovered from Spencer Tepe's body.

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Speaker 1: Dave Matt, Crimes Story's investigative reporter.

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Speaker 5: Many people online want to know were their holes in

880
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 5: the wall. My deduction is unlikely. There were sixteen bullets

881
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 5: fired right and they all made contact with the victims.

882
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 5: I also think, although we don't know this yet, that

883
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 5: he fired at close range.

884
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: Think about it.

885
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 5: There's the inside of the bedroom, so I guarantee you

886
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 5: he walked up to their bed, held out the gun

887
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 5: like he's, you know, the antagonist in a movie, and

888
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 5: unloaded on sleeping people, so they.

889
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: Are close range.

890
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 5: I don't know that they're going to be contact wounds,

891
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 5: but I don't think he could have missed him. It's

892
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 5: just like shooting a fish.

893
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 1: In a barrel. For Pete's saying, Dave.

894
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 9: Mac Nancy, I think you're absolutely right, there's not going

895
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 9: to be any shots on the wall or the ceiling.

896
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 9: I think every you got nine shots going into Monique.

897
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 9: You've got seven going into Spencer. That's sixteen total, and

898
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 9: they're gonna be pointed down.

899
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 14: Now.

900
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 9: On the autopsy report, there is an indication of no stipling,

901
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 9: So you're talking about an intermediate range. But you know,

902
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 9: one thing, I think in December sixth, when he was

903
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 9: at the home, remember they were at the ballgame.

904
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: I think he went in there and he planned it

905
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: all out.

906
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 9: He walked around, he knew exactly where he was going

907
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 9: to stand, he knew exactly where the bed was, he

908
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,439
Speaker 9: knew where they were going to be, and he had

909
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 9: a plan allegedly to stand there and just standing over

910
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 9: the top of him, shot him And look at the injuries.

911
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 9: Right side on Spencer, left side on Monique. That's how

912
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 9: we sleep. I mean, the only I think, the only

913
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 9: thing that really we can look at this is that

914
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 9: McKee knew exactly what he was going to do, exactly

915
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 9: where he was going to do it, and then he

916
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 9: did it allegedly.

917
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 5: Joining us tonight on behalf of Monique, Arianna Turner, a

918
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 5: dear friend of Monique's.

919
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 1: Arianna, thank you for being with us, Thank you for

920
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: having me.

921
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 25: I'm blessed to be here.

922
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: You know what.

923
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 5: I can see why you and Monique were friends because

924
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 5: everything I've seen of her, everything that's been said about her,

925
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 5: she had this just amazing I don't know the right word,

926
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 5: Aurrah demeanor. Tell me about her, Arianna, she was just.

927
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 24: Like indescribable, you know, like you don't really meet people

928
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 24: who are just genuine you know, and just genuinely want

929
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 24: to help other people and just genuinely care about like

930
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 24: just the people around them were just people in general,

931
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 24: and like Monique was somebody who like if she cared

932
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 24: about you, she was coming to check on you. She

933
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 24: was doing everything she could to make sure that you

934
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,720
Speaker 24: felt supported and you felt like you didn't have like

935
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 24: you had somebody, you know, like she was just she

936
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 24: was an amazing mother. Like she was just so like

937
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 24: very loving, very bright, like just positive all the time,

938
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 24: like just a bubbly person, like just somebody you always

939
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 24: want to talk to, like if you're having a sad day. See,

940
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,720
Speaker 24: I mean, she was just one of my biggest support.

941
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,959
Speaker 5: You stated that Manique was an amazing mother.

942
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: Please describe that for me. I really want to hear this.

943
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 25: With her kids, she was just very playful, just very attentive,

944
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 25: like she just had this patience and this love for

945
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,280
Speaker 25: her kids, and she valued education, you know, And every

946
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 25: time I've seen her with her children, it was always

947
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 25: uplifting her, always saying positive stuff, even when she knew

948
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 25: that they were doing something that they may have not

949
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 25: been doing, just giving her baby love, also giving her direction.

950
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: When did you learn she passed on? And when did

951
00:55:59,960 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: you learned was murdered?

952
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 24: I was sitting with my fiance and I was like,

953
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 24: hold on, this, this cannot be my girl. She's like

954
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 24: that's her, and I just I lost I lost it,

955
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 24: Like I still can't process it, because how can somebody

956
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 24: want to hurt somebody like her? Like I just don't

957
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 24: even see her hurting a fly? Like you see how

958
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 24: beautiful her smile was, like she was just a radiating

959
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 24: like oh, like she was just a beam of sunlight.

960
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 24: Like I was blessed that I got to experience her here.

961
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 24: But when I found out the news, I was heartbroken.

962
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 24: I mean, I still am trying to process this, this tragedy,

963
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 24: and it's like the details just get worse and worse

964
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 24: and worse. How would you take them from us?

965
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 12: You know?

966
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 24: I just I just will never sit right with me

967
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 24: and their babies were there like that hits so close

968
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 24: to home to me, and you know, I've been through

969
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 24: domestic violence, so the whole situation is very very touched,

970
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 24: you know. But I just I just I don't have

971
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 24: the right word to be honest, I don't.

972
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 1: You know what.

973
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 5: I disagree with you, Arianna, because I think your words

974
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 5: are perfect and the energy you have describing her, it's

975
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 5: just something about her was just contagious. If you know

976
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 5: or think you know anything about this case, please dial

977
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 5: six one four six four five two two two eight

978
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 5: repeat six one four, six, four five two two two eight.

979
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: Thank you to our guests, but especially to you for

980
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: being with us. Good night, friend,