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Speaker 2: merely Bo. He is the great z and he is

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Speaker 2: the great Dewan Jones. And so to deal with us,

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Speaker 2: What a treat? What a real treat? You know, I

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Speaker 2: saw you walking by. You know, you get your in

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Speaker 2: your boot, you getting you doing your rehab. You're getting

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Speaker 2: everything back to And I thought, you know what the

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Speaker 2: Buckeyes play on sat on Monday. Let's let's have a

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Speaker 2: little chat with our buddy about the beloved alma mater,

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Speaker 2: My friend, from your vantage point, what has this run

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Speaker 2: been like? And and then put yourself in the position

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Speaker 2: of playing the regular season finale and now having what

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Speaker 2: will be your fourth game, which is the one they'll

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Speaker 2: play on Monday.

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Speaker 3: My perspective from him is pretty crazy.

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Speaker 4: You know, I was there at the to a Nerve

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Speaker 4: game and I lost, you know, so it kind of

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Speaker 4: hurt even more for me. But you know, it kind

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Speaker 4: of like fueled them. You know, guys were fighting on

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Speaker 4: the fields. You know, they're fighting for you know, their pride,

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Speaker 4: you know. I mean it might be I think it

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Speaker 4: was nothing wrong with it, you know, but there's definitely

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Speaker 4: obviously nonsense to it. But you know, no knocked to them.

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Speaker 4: You know, they bounced back. You know, they knocked off

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Speaker 4: Oregon first game. You know, you couldn't ask for more than.

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Speaker 5: That when you think about the timing, right, this is

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Speaker 5: the first year of the expanded Playoff. Had it not

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Speaker 5: been that feeling that you had on the side of you,

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Speaker 5: they wouldn't have gotten another shot. It would season over,

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Speaker 5: maybe worse loss than program history. And it's amazing that

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Speaker 5: because of this now that can become the most irrelevant

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Speaker 5: big loss in program history. So then it's not even

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Speaker 5: a big loss in program history at all if they

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Speaker 5: handle their business on Monday. But could you have imagined

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Speaker 5: could you have imagined, Oh.

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Speaker 4: Well, so you know, twenty twenty one year, I want

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Speaker 4: to say we played to North also a loss, and

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Speaker 4: then we played Utah and one we went into rose Bow,

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Speaker 4: you know, and you know, by expecting the ring and

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Speaker 4: stuff like that, you don't get no ring, You don't

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But you know, guys, you

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Speaker 4: don't win a national championship, you get a ring. You

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Speaker 4: get three of them, so you know, it's kind of

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Speaker 4: like evens it out. But it's still at the end

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Speaker 4: of the day, you know, it hurts, you know it

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Speaker 4: lose to your biggest rival.

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Speaker 2: It's one of those things that I think you have

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Speaker 2: to to understand that game. I think ideally you played

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Speaker 2: in it or you're around it, and the way that

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Speaker 2: it is, it can almost swallow you up, like it

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Speaker 2: almost becomes bigger than everything else. And I do kind

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Speaker 2: of think that's what happened to him this year, like

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Speaker 2: they had just they almost started overthinking it a little. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and you were you were obviously there, and you know

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Speaker 2: everything that goes into that game and to win it

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Speaker 2: and to lose it and all of it. But from

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Speaker 2: from that does that I guess what I'm curious about is,

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Speaker 2: and you know, coach Day obviously very well, how did

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Speaker 2: to the next time you saw him play. They played

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Speaker 2: Tennessee and they looked like the greatest college team ever assembled.

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Speaker 4: God, they put tendency. They beat them so bad. I

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Speaker 4: forgot so, you know, like coach, they said all the

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Speaker 4: time of hoo versus versus the world. You know, first game,

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Speaker 4: it was sold out, you know, like Tennessee had forty

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Speaker 4: You know, It's like, I don't know, I think he

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Speaker 5: Honestly, at the game, you were at the game against

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Speaker 5: the team up north, as you're as you're referring to them,

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Speaker 5: were you like the rest of us, like throw the ball.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm on the sideline, so no, I'm I'm

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Speaker 4: trying to keep my cool. You know, I'm a big

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Speaker 5: You're unbelievable past Blacker, You're like, let's go run the ball.

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Speaker 4: You know, run the ball. You know, you know they

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Speaker 4: definitely didn't go their way. You know, I was on

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Speaker 5: How fun is it for you now, because I imagine when

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Speaker 5: big names had gone onto the NFL from Ohio State

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Speaker 5: come on the sidelines and be like, oh man, look

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Speaker 5: gone on to the NFL that's back on the sideline.

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Speaker 4: I think the craziest thing was I had came out

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Speaker 4: of surgery, came on my scooter. You know, they were saying,

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Speaker 4: that's like, you know, it's very crazy. You know, I

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Speaker 4: screaming to you know, my team.

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Speaker 5: That's really cool.

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Speaker 3: And I was like a real moment.

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Speaker 2: Former Buck Eye and are fantastic Tackle Dwan Jones and

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Speaker 2: the twelve team thing. I'm sure you would have loved

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Speaker 5: How are how do you think?

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Speaker 2: Because I think the fact that Ryan and Chip and

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Speaker 2: because no one's ever done this before. College kids haven't

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Speaker 3: You know, playing games like this late in the season.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's not normal to guys like, yes, you

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Speaker 4: know those first couple ones is okay, the champion Conference championship,

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Speaker 4: Go from there, you know, but you know it gets tough,

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Speaker 4: even me when I got here. You know, just even

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Speaker 4: watching the games, you know you just be more tired

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how excited are you?

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Speaker 5: Fine? Are you going?

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Speaker 3: I'm not going? I wish I could, you know, once

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Speaker 5: I've been feeling it is not gonna be a once

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Speaker 3: What I mean. But it's the first time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, twelve teams, you know, the first.

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Speaker 3: Time going all that.

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Speaker 4: But you know, I'm gonna stay here, treat treat myself right,

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, are you surprised?

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Speaker 2: I think one of the kind of unstolatory, untold stories

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Speaker 2: all of it, I mean, they've had a handful of

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Speaker 2: trans first, but even like Devin Brown, the backup quarterback,

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Speaker 2: like all the thinking is he's going to cal but

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Speaker 5: With the team.

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Speaker 2: Like it's January. It's January. Most everybody else already left.

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Speaker 2: How do you people, for those of us who on

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Speaker 2: the outside, how do you explain in an era of

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Speaker 4: It just starts when you sign your name on that

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Speaker 4: you know, it's the brotherhood, like no matter where you go,

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Speaker 4: like it's gonna stay with you forever, you know. Like

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Speaker 4: it's still a brotherhood that's still like my brother to

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Speaker 4: this day. You know, it just runs deep deeper in that.

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Speaker 4: And so you know whether or not you know, like

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Speaker 4: I said, it's hard versus the world. Whether you know

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Speaker 4: I mean? And you go there. You got to represent

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Speaker 5: Is it getting weird when you think about And I

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Speaker 5: can tell you just from doing my job preparing for games,

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Speaker 5: you know, to call the games alongside uh Andrew. You

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Speaker 5: used to be you went to the school and that's

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Speaker 5: the past and even in the recent past down locker room,

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Speaker 5: you guys care very much about where you went to college.

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Speaker 5: And there's a lot of bragging rights about where you

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Speaker 5: if there happens to be a head to head that

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Speaker 5: people that there are like three different schools in three years.

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Speaker 5: They're gonna lose that right. They're never gonna have that

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Speaker 5: feeling that somebody who went to a high State silent

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Speaker 5: dial like Zaid played your whole career there and then

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know what I mean, Devin Brown Wins's championship,

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Speaker 4: he takes that forever, Wody. Yeah, you know, you take

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Speaker 4: those brothers witting forever. You know, he never can you know,

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Speaker 4: not get that back, you know, give it to somebody else.

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Speaker 4: You know, that stays with hing forever. So I feel

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Speaker 4: like that's like the main thing for me in Miampion.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you confident Monday.

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Speaker 4: I am pretty confident, you know, just because I beat them.

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Speaker 4: I see them beat them before at their house too,

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Speaker 4: so it's kind of like a you know, but I

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Speaker 4: don't be overconfident. You know, they're already not the underdog.

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Speaker 4: I like being underdog. You know who doesn't, so you

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Speaker 4: know it makes it better. But you know they're going

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Speaker 4: out there handle business. In Miampion, I agree.

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Speaker 5: I think they're clearly more.

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Speaker 4: At off the edge, you know, you know Jack on

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Speaker 4: the other side, they just I just they're low on

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Speaker 4: tackles right now. You're a low death for sure. Offensive

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Speaker 4: line playing. You know, guys, get the running games and

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Speaker 5: Because they're not great at the forward pass and then

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Speaker 5: put it to their defense, which has played well at

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Speaker 3: Keep on the quarterback. You know he's gonna run, So

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Speaker 3: you know, I think, you know.

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Speaker 5: Don't global He's like, I got the defensive game plan,

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Speaker 5: got the offensive game plan. They don't. It's you look

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Speaker 5: through it. They don't have a lot of guys. We

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Speaker 4: I feel like I didn't watch them all so I

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Speaker 5: That's awesome. That's It's really cool obviously and good for

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Speaker 5: how you feeling. I'm everything good.

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Speaker 3: I'm feeling better, you know, just taking one day at

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Speaker 5: I remember walking in and you'd be scooting on out

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Speaker 4: Mentally, I'm good. You know, Like I said, I'm watching

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Speaker 5: That's awesome. Basketball watching Calves Pacers.

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Speaker 5: You got the John Cena shorts on here today. This

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Speaker 3: I watched Jeff Jared on TNA, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: Great see anybody? Man? Of course, go handle the business.

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Speaker 5: All right, welcome back in. If you are a man

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Speaker 2: an English butler help raise his fans. I mean, makes

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Speaker 2: no sense. Howould you afford it?

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Speaker 5: Don't even ask?

439
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Speaker 2: Very fine, that was it. You got cute kids, and

440
00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,560
Speaker 2: we'll do this. And so he's in that, and then

441
00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,760
Speaker 2: the Coup de grass. He's in Major League, which is,

442
00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:02,000
Speaker 2: in my opinion, the greatest sports movie ever made. And

443
00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,000
Speaker 2: he's perfect, and I think he's as important to it

444
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Speaker 2: as Ricky Vaughan or any of the rest of them.

445
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Speaker 3: I think.

446
00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:10,840
Speaker 5: It's critical to it.

447
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Speaker 2: The narrative voice, all of it I'll be honest with you,

448
00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:19,919
Speaker 2: I did not even know until there was a Sports

449
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Speaker 2: illustrated piece that I tweeted a photo out of, which

450
00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,920
Speaker 2: is like in the early two thousands, I didn't realize

451
00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,040
Speaker 2: he was the voice of the Brewers. Yeah, well I

452
00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,640
Speaker 2: know that, yeah obviously now. But for the whole time

453
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Speaker 2: I knew him, I thought he was just like a

454
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Speaker 2: guy around baseball, and then he would host like these

455
00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,879
Speaker 2: VHS tapes you'd get with your sports illustrators to script

456
00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,879
Speaker 2: like crazy moments in sports, like he'd host those. I

457
00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:42,760
Speaker 2: thought he was that. I didn't even know he was

458
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Speaker 2: the voice of the Brewers from the seventies until probably

459
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Speaker 2: fifteen years ago.

460
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Speaker 5: Had no idea.

461
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Speaker 2: So he passed it at ninety, but he was on

462
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Speaker 2: the present.

463
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Speaker 5: Two to fourth. I mean when people of our age,

464
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Speaker 5: when you think of a camera that puts the picture,

465
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Speaker 5: the pictures come out, what would you call it polaroid exactly?

466
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,600
Speaker 5: And there were many different brands, but polaroid, just like

467
00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:11,200
Speaker 5: what would you call a tissue that you the Ucher

468
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Speaker 5: seats last row of the stadium, Like that's what those were,

469
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Speaker 5: the Ucher seats, or if you didn't have great seats,

470
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Speaker 5: you're like I got Ucher seats. I mean he and

471
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Speaker 5: it's from those ads. You know, I'm in the front row,

472
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Speaker 5: you know, the the Ucher seats. It's he was such

473
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Speaker 5: a part of Americana in a way that you know,

474
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Speaker 5: we don't really get that as much anymore, where somebody's

475
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:39,800
Speaker 5: into so many different fields and it's fun because everything's

476
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:44,159
Speaker 5: too quick now. You have people who have longevity, obviously,

477
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Speaker 5: you have people who are icons and all of those things.

478
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Speaker 5: But you're talking about a guy that is was never,

479
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:53,679
Speaker 5: never was the star, but he was always like the

480
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 5: buddy or was the supporting player who was the foil

481
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Speaker 5: and was just great at it and happy to do

482
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Speaker 5: it all the time.

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Speaker 2: Truly, I'm the present, Yes, no matter. It felt like

484
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Speaker 2: you saw him as a kid. I saw him always

485
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Speaker 2: any sporting event, the Miller Light ads would run, you'd

486
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Speaker 2: see him there. You'd always se him there, and then

487
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Speaker 2: that's hits Coomara. I think for like six years, that's it.

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Speaker 5: I was not a big belvidere watcher in my house.

489
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Speaker 5: We were not. I know of it, and I watched it,

490
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Speaker 5: but it wasn't like, no, it wasn't. It wasn't like

491
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Speaker 5: different strokes, which.

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Speaker 2: No that was a bit in web Webster because web

493
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Speaker 2: Alex Carris was in that. He was a played for

494
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Speaker 2: the Lions, of course, and then yeah, so there were

495
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Speaker 2: a few of those, but yeah, like he was that.

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Speaker 2: But then it was it was a major league. Major

497
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Speaker 2: League was for you know, for a previous generation. I

498
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Speaker 2: suppose there's a reverence for slap shot. I've seen slap shot.

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Speaker 2: It's it's not it's I understand it. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: But major League.

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Speaker 5: Spoke to me, Ah, it was the best. Yeah, and

502
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Speaker 5: I obviously neither of us were born here. No, and

503
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 5: yet I know that word for a word. I love

504
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 5: the score, the opening song, which is not really a

505
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:14,119
Speaker 5: flattering song, it is an incredible song. I remember October seventeenth,

506
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Speaker 5: nineteen eighty nine, so I'm eleven, is when the earthquake

507
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Speaker 5: happened five or four pm October seventeenth, nineteen nine. The

508
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Speaker 5: earthquake happened in the Bay Bridge World Series between the

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Speaker 5: A's and the Giants. Yep, not only was there no school,

510
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Speaker 5: they were going to postpone the World Series until for

511
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Speaker 5: obvious reasons, they'll yeah, got a hold of this crisis

512
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Speaker 5: that had happened from this natural disaster, and I was like,

513
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Speaker 5: I need baseball, And I was like, you know, the

514
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Speaker 5: only thing's going to make me happy because I don't

515
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Speaker 5: get to watch this World Series is Major League. And

516
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Speaker 5: so we went to at the time, Lucky was the

517
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Speaker 5: store by our house, and they would have like randomly

518
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 5: because back in the day's grocery store sometimes it would

519
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,400
Speaker 5: randomly have like video rental sections. Right, yes, they would yep.

520
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 5: So we went there and I got Major League and

521
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,959
Speaker 5: it was like, I was so once I had the idea,

522
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 5: it was like a race, like how do I get

523
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 5: here first?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because they don't have no they had one.

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Speaker 5: They had one.

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00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 6: Yep.

527
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Speaker 5: It wasn't like it was a new release at Blockbuster.

528
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Speaker 5: We had a wall of it.

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Speaker 2: Just download it off the TV, Dad, I just slip

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Speaker 2: by it here. No no, no, no, you have no idea.

531
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Speaker 2: You had to go fit we acquire it, yeah, and

532
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:17,959
Speaker 2: hope that they had it.

533
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Speaker 5: You could sell.

534
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 2: You could call and say, hey, you have Major League.

535
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 2: They have four thousand movies. They don't know what they

536
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Speaker 2: have or what they don't have. The only way you

537
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Speaker 2: knew is if you walked in and it was there.

538
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Speaker 5: And it was the box was behind the box. That's right.

539
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 5: They had the show box and then you had the

540
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Speaker 5: reel box, or you had the that contained the VHS.

541
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Speaker 5: So I got that and I remember I was just

542
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Speaker 5: watching it over and over and it brought me great joy.

543
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 5: And his calls are iconic. He's he's so good. There's

544
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Speaker 5: some people I'll retweet one of them right now that

545
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 5: put together just the full compilation reflogged. Yeah, yeah McNeil did.

546
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Speaker 5: He put it amazing of hair Harry Doyle and like,

547
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Speaker 5: you know, it's great too about it is he's so good,

548
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 5: and then he's got many I go, like, he actually

549
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 5: plays his part so perfectect absolutely nothing nothing so good.

550
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Speaker 5: It gives you nothing zero And Harry Doyle is just

551
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Speaker 5: a tour to force. It's unbelievable, so fun.

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Speaker 2: Give me you ever meet him?

553
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Speaker 8: Never did?

554
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, never did.

555
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 8: I've seen him, but like in passing, hey always very

556
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Speaker 8: I mean he talked to literally everybody in a press box, yeah,

557
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 8: you know, or like when he was on the field,

558
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Speaker 8: like during batting practice, like if the Brewers were in town,

559
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Speaker 8: I mean he would hold court, he'd be happy to

560
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 8: talk to you. He would he would talk to the

561
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Speaker 8: guy that was like fixing, like the pitching machine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just anyone, Yeah, you want to. Norm MacDonald told

563
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 2: his story on Letterman that's making the rounds, and then

564
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 2: Already's yeah, the Fauverty story, and then the one was

565
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 2: already on Stern, which you can't play any of it,

566
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 2: the Stern stuff, the one on Letterman maybe you could,

567
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Speaker 2: But I think at the line in it that I

568
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 2: thought was such a cool line was how he said

569
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Speaker 2: that he treated that he didn't get starstruck by everybody

570
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 2: was normal. Yeah, like it didn't. John Fogerty was the

571
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,479
Speaker 2: same as the guy fixing the pitching machine. To him,

572
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 2: it didn't make any difference totally, which I I always

573
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Speaker 2: think that's a really cool way to be.

574
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Speaker 5: Yeah, did you see that al Michaels win from the

575
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Speaker 5: Eyes and show?

576
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 2: No, huh, I miss haven't seen.

577
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Speaker 5: I'm gonna do my watch it. I'll give it just

578
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 5: a quick So he's al Michaels is telling a story

579
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Speaker 5: about how al Uker and Howard Howard Kosell are doing

580
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 5: a baseball game together. Wow, what a group. And he's like,

581
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 5: you know, how Howard says everything with such story and

582
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 5: basically they realized pretty quickly Howard is calling for a

583
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 5: bunt in a particular situation that by calling for a bun,

584
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 5: he's basically exposes he knows absolutely nothing about baseball, and

585
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 5: Michaels says that, you know, Bob Buker was trying to,

586
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 5: you know, gently guide him to the correct decision. He

587
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Speaker 5: without being like me and being like you're an idiot,

588
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 5: he was thinking very nice about it and just kind

589
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 5: of be like, oh, you know, maybe you want to

590
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:11,239
Speaker 5: do this instead, blah blah blah, and cosla, why are

591
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 5: you being so truculent with me? And then he says,

592
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 5: you know, do you even know what truckulent means? Yeah?

593
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 5: Without Michael still story, he says, you go without missing

594
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 5: a beat, says, well, if you had a truck and

595
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 5: you lent it to me, that'd be the truculent.

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Speaker 8: On the air.

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Speaker 5: I mean, come on, it's like, whose brain works that way?

598
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 5: So quick he had it. There's another story where he

599
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 5: says something that's so quick to and it's like, oh, manerfect.

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Speaker 2: Perfect and I cannot imagine what Major League meant to

601
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Speaker 2: your era.

602
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Speaker 5: It was awesome.

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Speaker 8: I mean, you're right. I mean he was a big

604
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Speaker 8: part in that movie, is as anybody else And Arlie

605
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Speaker 8: or anybody.

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Speaker 2: The Indians are nothing friends for a feather, and when

607
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 2: he welcomes people, all the friends of the feather.

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00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 5: Look, oh, maybe it's a bounce.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't stop him, Chelsea, But look at that little Chelsea

610
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 2: looks like a suede. He's not even worried about this precipitation. Fine,

611
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 2: throw them in the grab.

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00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 5: He's got a new pair. He's a new pair.

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Speaker 8: He doesn't have to worry the parking spots very close.

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Speaker 8: We don't worry about that.

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Speaker 5: He's not. He's gonna wrap that shoe.

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Speaker 2: He'll just throw those right in the trash. Pick out

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Speaker 2: human in general. Bill Bender joining us there. We have

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Speaker 2: a National championship game on a Monday. I want to

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Speaker 2: talk before we get into the game, and we'll talk

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Speaker 2: great length at that. I want to talk to you

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Speaker 2: about the logistics of this from the college football side

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Speaker 2: of things, because as we sit here on a Thursday,

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking to myself, wouldn't be bad if they First

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Speaker 2: of all, I think we all know they're going to

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Speaker 2: move the calendar bill, but the idea that this game

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Speaker 2: is a Monday following the divisional round of the NFL.

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00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 2: In the general sports world, I think it's going to

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Speaker 2: get eaten up. People will watch the game, no doubt,

641
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,719
Speaker 2: huge numbers, but in terms of like the build up

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Speaker 2: to it, I think they're in a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a black hole. My friend, what is your vantage point

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Speaker 2: as you've watched this thing the last month.

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Speaker 6: Well, in order to do this job, you have to

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Speaker 6: have a spouse that has a sense of humor. And

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Speaker 6: you know, I made the joke that it's been eighty

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Speaker 6: like the Titanic Meme where it's been eighty four years

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Speaker 6: since Ohio State played Michigan and now they're playing in

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Speaker 6: this championship game fifty one days later. It's the calendar's

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Speaker 6: too long. I think they're bumping into the NFL a

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Speaker 6: little too much, I would play. I don't understand how

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Speaker 6: the NFL playoffs can go five weeks same amount around

654
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 6: and college football is going seven plus. And I get

655
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 6: there's logistics and bulls and college kids and all that,

656
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 6: but I just think it's a mistake to draw this

657
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 6: thing out into the NFL. Whereas my editor pointed out

658
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 6: to me, there will be ten NFL playoff games played

659
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 6: in between Ohio State Texas and Ohio State Notre Dame.

660
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 6: And I mean, you don't have to tell the NFL

661
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 6: to suck all the oxygen out of the room.

662
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 2: It's just such a simple fix, guys, And they could

663
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 2: have done this in a timely manner and I think

664
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Speaker 2: they'll get there. But like it was, just like with

665
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: everything with college football right now, it is so haphazardly.

666
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 2: You're writing, you write for sportings, you think about what

667
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 2: are the things that people are driving to in college football? Second,

668
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 2: no question, but the behemoth is the NFL, Like, why

669
00:29:58,800 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: go head to head with it?

670
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 6: I know just from my traffic and I, as you

671
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 6: guys know, I write a little NFL for us too,

672
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 6: but I just you see it. I love college football

673
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 6: and I love the NFL, but I love them separately,

674
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 6: and I almost like having that, you know. I was

675
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 6: looking back at the BCS championship games and remembering a

676
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 6: time where the title game was like on January fifth,

677
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 6: and I think that was better because then you had

678
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 6: a chance to breathe college is over. You can actually

679
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 6: use the portal calendar more effectively. And then the NFL.

680
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm looking at Oh, I'm looking at my

681
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 6: Sunday night, and from a work perspective, this is personal

682
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 6: a little bit. But I'll be WRITINGFC Championship stuff like

683
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 6: twelve hours before I'm going to the stadium to watch

684
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 6: college football chimpship. If I'm not complaining, it's a great job.

685
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 6: It's a lot of fun to do. But I like

686
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 6: separating the two just mentally so you can do.

687
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 5: Both absolutely, And I also think from a momentum standpoint, right,

688
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 5: and we talked about this had been structured differently if

689
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 5: this game was played Friday Tomorrow night leading into the

690
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 5: it becomes you know, we haven't had football for since

691
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 5: Monday nights. Now we're everybody's give me more football. That's

692
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 5: the first one. And then you get in the NFL,

693
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,719
Speaker 5: which would have ended with you know what we all

694
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 5: think is going to be the game of the year

695
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 5: thus far, which is Buffalo and Baltimore. As opposed to

696
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 5: following that, I just think it's you're right, you're too

697
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 5: far in wild card weekend. It's got to end before

698
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 5: or by wild Card weekend.

699
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 6: It's a great you know what, you just made another

700
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 6: great point. Look, the NFL does a great job at

701
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 6: the I've always contended that Divisional card Divisional playoff weekend

702
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 6: is the best weekend, the best. Yep, it is the

703
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 6: absolute best because you're getting one step closer to the

704
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 6: super Bowl. There are four high level games. It's essentially

705
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 6: the elite A to the NFL, and the NFL does

706
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 6: a fantastic job of putting the most riveting game last,

707
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 6: and more often than not it delivers. Right, So you're

708
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 6: gonna get Buffalo and Baltimore as this kind of mortal

709
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 6: combat undercard to get to the Boss. If the Chiefs

710
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 6: win and I think the winner of that game is

711
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 6: going to win the AFC. So that's where the focus

712
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 6: is going to be Sunday night instead of the build

713
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 6: up to this one of a kind matchup between Notre

714
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 6: Dame and Ohio State, which don't get me wrong, it

715
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 6: is amazing. It's amazing storylines. I just hate that they're

716
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 6: getting probably gonna get drowned out a little bit over

717
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 6: the weekend.

718
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 2: They are, Yeah, the game, the game's gonna rates, it'll

719
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: annihilate last year's numbers. These are two of the four

720
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 2: biggest brands in the sport, two of the biggest followings

721
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 2: in the sport. The storylines here are rich. It's just

722
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 2: gonna get overwhelmed by the NFL this weekend. It'll pop

723
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,959
Speaker 2: up on Monday night and then everyone will tune in.

724
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: But in terms of the build up, you're just missing

725
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: out on that, in terms of the way that these

726
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 2: two teams got here, Bill, let's start from the Buckeye perspective,

727
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: and I go back and I know you and I

728
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 2: talked on my morning show in the lead up to

729
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 2: the Tennessee game about what exactly would we see? And

730
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: I think I said some of you to the effect

731
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 2: of I have no idea what I'm going to see

732
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: against Tennessee now that seems like six years ago. But

733
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: what we saw was emphatic, right, And then it was

734
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 2: again against Oregon. Then it was talent equates game against Texas,

735
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: a true heavyweight fight, and you survive in advance from

736
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 2: your vantage point. And you've observed Buckeye football for a

737
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 2: long time, and certainly Ryan Day very closely for a while. Now,

738
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 2: how did he flip this? How did he go from

739
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 2: we're fighting on the field, disastrous Michigan game, as bad

740
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: as anyone's ever been to on the precipice of a

741
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 2: national title.

742
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Speaker 6: I just think that they the worst ikeps in the line.

743
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 6: The worst thing that could have happened happened, and you

744
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 6: still got to play ball, and they took advantage of

745
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 6: the opportunity. You know that Tennessee game. Had you showed

746
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 6: up an hour before and we talked about this, you

747
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 6: would have thought, all right, this is a funeral because

748
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 6: there's all this thorns in here and the balls are

749
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 6: going to run them out of the stadium. This is

750
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 6: going to be terrible. And they just five minutes into

751
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 6: the game. That couldn't have been further from the truth,

752
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 6: and I would be lying if I didn't think that

753
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 6: was going to happen that night. And the way that

754
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 6: Ohio State came out there then annihilates Oregon in the

755
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 6: Rose Bowl. I don't even think they played close to

756
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 6: their best game against Texas and they won by two touchdowns.

757
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 6: I thought Texas actually had a really good game plan defensively.

758
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 6: And now you played Notre Dame in a game where

759
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 6: I think there's a Notre Dame to produce offense. And

760
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 6: I say that knowing that they had ten points against

761
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 6: Ohio State two years ago, fourteen points last year, a

762
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 6: third different quarterback that's going to take a crack at

763
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 6: that better in Ohio State defense. And I actually think

764
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 6: the best player on the football field either way we

765
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 6: all want to say Jeremiah Smith. I think the best

766
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 6: player on this football field is Caleb Downs and what

767
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 6: he can do and come in and crash in with

768
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 6: Leathan Ransom and Sonny Styles, and they can come crash

769
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 6: in on that running game. If Notre Dame doesn't show

770
00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 6: they can throw the ball.

771
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 5: Which I don't think they're going to be able to

772
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 5: throw the ball. I mean this, it's it's a There

773
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 5: are a lot of different ways that you could say, Okay,

774
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,479
Speaker 5: the Buckys are gonna win the game by doing this, this, this, this, this, this,

775
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 5: this or this. It feels like from the Notre Dame perspective,

776
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 5: unless the Buckeyes implode a little bit or try to

777
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 5: be kind of in the Michigan game, might take on

778
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 5: that was they just tried to be something they weren't

779
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 5: to prove that they could be that because it was

780
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 5: still in their heads. But if they just play their game,

781
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 5: I don't really see how this one is is all

782
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 5: that close. And the question then is is will Howard

783
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 5: being slept on a little bit from not only kind

784
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 5: of the national perspective in terms of the run that

785
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 5: he's on right now, how he's been performing, and then

786
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 5: perhaps is that translates into the National Football League in

787
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 5: this upcoming draft.

788
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,760
Speaker 6: Well, you know, I remember being in his first press

789
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 6: conference at Ohio State. He said the decision last year

790
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 6: wasn't between transferring to Kansas State and somewhere else with

791
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 6: Ohio State, it was either a high state or the NFL.

792
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 6: He was thinking about it last year, but he said

793
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 6: the feedback he was getting was like Day three and

794
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 6: he wanted to push his status up. So I mean,

795
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 6: I think day two's possibility with the size, the accuracy,

796
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 6: and you get good tape. When you get to throw

797
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 6: to those Ohio State receivers, there's no question. And I

798
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 6: just think the turnovers is something that he'll get questioned about.

799
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 6: And they built in. You know, he's had a turnover

800
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 6: in two of these games. They've kind of built that

801
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 6: in where it doesn't really hurt them. I kind of

802
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 6: see when that wasn't an interception, by the way, but

803
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 6: that's neither here nor there. I just think that's something

804
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 6: he'll have to work on at the next level. But yeah,

805
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 6: I think he'll be stretch to say round three. I

806
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 6: don't think it is.

807
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 2: Bill talking to the great Bill Bender of the Sporting News.

808
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: We're all of a certain age here that are talking

809
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 2: on this program, and to the point where we would

810
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 2: remember Notre Dame's last national championship in nineteen eighty eight.

811
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 2: Those Notre dan teams, to me at times felt like juggernauts.

812
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 2: They had so much talent on them. They were just

813
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: incredibly well put together teams. But it has been a

814
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 2: long long time. They already have what most people would

815
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: say is a signature of the last decade or so

816
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 2: win for Notre Dame when they beat Georgia in the

817
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: Peach Bowl, and so they have that already under there,

818
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: they get through the game against Penn State, what do

819
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 2: they have left for the Buckeyes and how specifically if

820
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: they are to spring the upset, what's the roadmap for it?

821
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 6: Okay, so before that, right, like you mentioned eighty eight,

822
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 6: I think porch of who was the dominant program in

823
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 6: the Midwest and the one that everybody hated if you

824
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 6: weren't part of it was around the time that Ohio

825
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 6: State Notre Dame played that home and home in the

826
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 6: nineties where Ohio State swept them. The Eddie Georgia ron happened,

827
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 6: and that was probably the end, at least in the

828
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 6: forty five years that I've been on this earth of

829
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 6: Notre Dame being the first program you thought of in

830
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 6: the Midwest as a kid. It was Notre Dame first

831
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 6: since about ninety six. I'd say it's been Ohio State

832
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 6: ever since. And that two game series was very significant

833
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 6: in that so huge signature moment for Ohio State or

834
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 6: for Notre Dame. It's the Ohio State too, but Notre

835
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 6: Dame is owned six against Ohio State. In my lifetime.

836
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 6: I went to a Catholic school. I have tons of

837
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 6: friends and family that are Ohio State fans. I have

838
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 6: tons of friends and family that are Notre Dame fans.

839
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 6: So it's right down the middle. And for me, it's

840
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 6: like the Irish have been waiting for this moment so

841
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 6: long and the heartbreak of how they lost last year.

842
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 6: So how do they do that? How do they avoid

843
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 6: that again? Slow the game down? They have to show

844
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 6: some offense early. They cannot. I absolutely cannot lose the

845
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 6: turnover battle, and it wouldn't hurt to get one or

846
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 6: two turnovers on Ohio State side of the field that

847
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 6: they cash in on. Can they play man coverage against

848
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 6: the Ohio State receivers. I'm not sure they can't. I'm

849
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 6: just not sure you can. I don't know if I

850
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 6: would risk it. I think they're going to try. And

851
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 6: then does their running game work enough? Last year Love

852
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 6: and Price averaged over seven yards of carry over like

853
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 6: ten eleven carries against the Buckeyes. They have to be

854
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 6: out of this world and they have to be able

855
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 6: to run the football, and you know it's Freeman's done.

856
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 6: I talked to Jim Tressel about Marcus Freeman yesterday. We

857
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 6: have a feature coming tomorrow. I mean, they got to

858
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 6: do the Jim Trestle thing that Jim Tressell did to Miami.

859
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 5: That's it.

860
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 2: I also, I'm very looking forward to reading that piece

861
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 2: with you and Tress because I covered Marcus and it

862
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 2: was one of the among the first teams I covered

863
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: at Ohio State. He had a charisma about him then

864
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 2: that was unmistakable. But to think that, you know, sixteen

865
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 2: years later, whatever it is, he's the head coach at

866
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 2: Notre Dame. No, I didn't have that bill and he's crushing,

867
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 2: you know.

868
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 6: And he's charismatic. It was funny, you know. I know

869
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 6: you and I do a lot of car rides with

870
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 6: the kids to the practices, and I was taking Grant

871
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 6: home last night and he goes, he is, hey, Marcus

872
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 6: Freeman's younger than you, right, And I'm like, yeah, thanks,

873
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 6: and he said he looks. He's like he looks still

874
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 6: looks like he could play. He looks really big, And

875
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 6: I'm like, are you trying to say that I'm out

876
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 6: of shape? Just say it please, like but he, you know,

877
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 6: he he looks the part that players coach thing. And

878
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 6: I was told this a couple of times. Players coach

879
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 6: doesn't mean you do what the players tell you, even

880
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 6: in the NIL era. It means you know how to

881
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 6: communicate with your guys. And you can clearly see that

882
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 6: he has their attention, that there's never panic with him.

883
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 6: You mentioned the charisma and the When I talked to Trussell,

884
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 6: one of the things he said is and he knows

885
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 6: and you know some of these guys too. He said

886
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 6: he was in a linebacker room with A J. Hawk,

887
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 6: Anthony Schlegel, Bobby Carpenter when he came in and and

888
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 6: Trussell was very quick to say, you know, Schlegs and

889
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 6: Carpenter were the crazies, and uh, you know, AJ and

890
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 6: Marcus were the calm ones. But He's like, they weren't

891
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 6: calm when the whistle blew. But Marcus always had had

892
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 6: that just kind of calm, humble nature about him and

893
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 6: was a great fit in that room with those guys.

894
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 6: And I'm sure all three of those guys will tell

895
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 6: you the same thing.

896
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, Bill, Taking one quick transition, something I've seen pop

897
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 5: across the timelines here is that quen you Wers is

898
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 5: declared for the NFL Draft and doing so for go

899
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 5: for I guess he gave up an eight million dollar

900
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 5: nil deal, which will be more if he goes in

901
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 5: the third round, which is the projections right now, he'll

902
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 5: make I think five million dollars over four years. Is

903
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 5: that accurate? Is that real number? It feels crazy and

904
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 5: it also feels crazy to say.

905
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 3: No to that man.

906
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 6: I first of all, I think I was on the

907
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 6: show like a year ago saying that he had a

908
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 6: long ball arm like Jeff George, and I think I

909
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 6: got it to you. That was a mistake. I'll walk

910
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 6: that one back. He does have a good The inconsistency

911
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 6: gets me, the release gets me a little bit. There's

912
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 6: times when I'm like, why did he throw that? You

913
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 6: know what? What was he looking at there? But he

914
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 6: can throw it deep. There's no question he just can't

915
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 6: throw or it's a different animal there. I think him

916
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 6: considered staying one more year because I think at the

917
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 6: top of this quarterback draft class you're going to have

918
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 6: Shador and cam Ward, and then you'll get into some

919
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 6: conversations about other guys. But I think those are the two.

920
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 6: And then if you would have came back and stayed.

921
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 6: You have quinn Ewers, you have guys like Drew Aller

922
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 6: some others that I always say, these NFL teams, they

923
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 6: talk themselves into guys, and quinn Ewers would be somebody

924
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 6: I think you would have to talk yourself into, and

925
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,439
Speaker 6: it'd be pretty risky. I know our guy Vinnie Eyre

926
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 6: has him going to the Steelers, and I'm not sure

927
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 6: about that fit. I think Vinnie does a great job.

928
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 6: I just I don't know if I would if I

929
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 6: were the Steelers, if I would do that.

930
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,959
Speaker 2: The thing that's weird about Quinn is because you're right, Bill,

931
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 2: he has a hose, but he does not use it.

932
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 2: He will float balls when you want him to drive them.

933
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 2: He'll throw moon balls. When you want it to be

934
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 2: on a rope, he'll put it on a rope where

935
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 2: it needs to have air under it. And he's so

936
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: lase a fair in the pocket that it's alarming. Sometimes

937
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: he will walk right into sacks. It's a weird thing theory.

938
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 2: First of all, I don't think there's any way that

939
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 2: that's real, that that number is real.

940
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 5: That eight million is.

941
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: Like the Carson Beck number, where it's maybe it's like incentivized.

942
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 5: Even if it's all of it.

943
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still gonna make more than he ever would.

944
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 2: I can He's probably made more than any non famous

945
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 2: parent college football player because he started making money as

946
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 2: a seventeen year old at Ohio State. So there, he's

947
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: made a lot of money playing college football. I do

948
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 2: wonder Bill though, if it was like I'm only gonna

949
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: I'm playing for Texas and that's it. And the reality

950
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 2: is Texas would have paid eight million to be done

951
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 2: with him. They're ready for arch Manning, So like where

952
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 2: would he go? That would be the other thing, like,

953
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: where are you going to go play after that? After

954
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 2: all of that? I'm guessing that played into it too.

955
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I did too, And I think that makes sense.

956
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 6: It's been an interesting career arc for him. But this

957
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 6: is the confusing part with me with Nil is that

958
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 6: I'm like, these guys are are these guys making more

959
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 6: money than Brock Party? And they're not better than Brock Party?

960
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 6: I mean, what are we doing? So yeah, definitely, and

961
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 6: you were You're spot on about Texas and arch Manning,

962
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 6: because the appetite for arch Manning, whether he's good or

963
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 6: not next year, is so high right now, and it's

964
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 6: it's wild he get his first start is going to

965
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 6: be at Ohio State. So what a test. That's there's

966
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 6: a better than good chance judging by all the way

967
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 6: too early. Then I'm working on mine now, and I

968
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 6: hate doing it because all it does is get on

969
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 6: social media and people tell me I'm trash, even though

970
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 6: last year we had three of the top five. Uh,

971
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 6: but it's going to be Ohio State and Texas one

972
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 6: and two.

973
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 5: Yep, yep, it will be.

974
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 6: Uh.

975
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: The Buckeye Notre Dame ticket is going to be about

976
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 2: a billion bucks, and the Buckeye Texas ticket next year

977
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 2: in the Shoe is going to be about a billion bucks.

978
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 2: You're the best, buddy. Thank you so much for your time.

979
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 2: Greatly appreciate you.

980
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 6: All right, You guys are great. Thanks so much for

981
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 6: having me on. And take care all right.

982
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 5: That's our great friends.

983
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 2: Sporting New senior writer Bill Ben joining on the Twisted

984
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: the Hotline presented by Twisted Hard, I see official sponsor

985
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 2: of your Cleveland Browns. Keep it Twisted Cleveland there is

986
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 2: it's hard for people who don't and I understand a

987
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 2: gross majority of our audience as is no idea or

988
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: maybe just has a passing idea. Since you've been doing

989
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: college football, Nate, they might have a better idea. There

990
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 2: is no way to prove what any of these guys

991
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 2: make or are being offered.

992
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's lawless.

993
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 2: So you're recruiting young Gabriel here, and young young Gabriel

994
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 2: he's gonna be play a strong right guard for you

995
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 2: at Big State. And and young Gabriel's folks say, we

996
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 2: were offered seven hundred and fifty thousand by Tech. You

997
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 2: prove it, and you're going I can offer you five.

998
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: And Young Gabriels folks are saying it's seven fifty. Now

999
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 2: you have to ask yourself. It doesn't even matter if

1000
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 2: it's real or not. That's the number that he's telling

1001
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 2: me that it takes for me.

1002
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 3: Yep.

1003
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 2: Okay, So now you say, all right, fine, young Gay,

1004
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,720
Speaker 2: we need you. We need the center of our offensive

1005
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 2: line sorted out. We think you're a three year starter here.

1006
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 2: We're going to take you up on. We're gonna get

1007
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: it done. Let's get the nil people to get it rolling.

1008
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 2: Young Gabriel the next day can say it's nine. No,

1009
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 2: it's nine, and you go, wait a second, you just

1010
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 2: said it was seven fifty. Yeah, but it's nine now, okay, Arkansas,

1011
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 2: you offered me nine. Okay, now what that's the sport.

1012
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 2: So when people say eight million for quinn Ewers, I.

1013
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 5: Even look at you know, it's directionally speaking. Even if

1014
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 5: it was four million, it's wild that he would come out.

1015
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 2: Well that those numbers. And I think the Beck number

1016
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 2: is probably legitimate if it is in seat of Leyden.

1017
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: If it is, if you lead us to this, we

1018
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 2: get this. The one thing these collectives are gonna a

1019
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 2: lot smarter about now is they are going there's a

1020
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 2: safety at Wisconsin that's being held up. He's trying to

1021
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: get in the portal and they won't allow it because

1022
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 2: he didn't honor some of the things that they're saying

1023
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 2: in the NIL. So the collectives are getting smarter now

1024
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 2: and saying like, okay, fine, this is the this is

1025
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 2: the price of doing business. Fine, will do it. But

1026
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 2: then this is what your responsibilities are to us.

1027
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 5: Yes, the problem nothing's free.

1028
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,720
Speaker 2: No, But the problem is is the universities can't actually

1029
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 2: be tied to those because remember NIL does not come

1030
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 2: from universities, it comes from boosters.

1031
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 5: So that's that's the mess. I mean, eventually, are we

1032
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 5: going to get to you're.

1033
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 2: Gonna get paid for play, which, as I've been saying

1034
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 2: for our salary cap, Yes, it just seems to be

1035
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 2: the NFL junior and you just pay them a percentage

1036
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 2: of the money from television revenue and then you get

1037
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 2: your control back. This isn't hard. The NCAA just doesn't

1038
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 2: want to call them employees. Do you think up further

1039
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 2: litigation forever?

1040
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 5: Will Right now, you have certain schools and one of

1041
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 5: the things that's been part of the college football landscape

1042
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 5: forever is that it is not equitable. No, so would

1043
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 5: you have a salary cap by conference or by or

1044
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 5: are you saying it?

1045
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:57,720
Speaker 2: You're going to take the big ten in the SEC

1046
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 2: are going to separate from everybody else.

1047
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 5: They're going They're going to take some.

1048
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 2: Teams with them yet want to come? Want will be

1049
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 2: the North whatever. There'll be two super comperences. They'll probably

1050
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 2: be upwards of forty teams. Maybe there's upwards of sixty

1051
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 2: teams in them. They'll maybe fifty, and those will negotiate

1052
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: their own television deals, and those will negotiate their own

1053
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,959
Speaker 2: cbas and those will be separate from everything else.

1054
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 5: But in that world, let's just say that there's thirty

1055
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 5: in the Big ten and thirty in the SEC. Sure

1056
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 5: are those sixty teams going to all have the same

1057
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 5: salary cap?

1058
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Okay, I think that's the only way

1059
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 2: to do it is that way, so they're all working now.

1060
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 2: That would be such an incredible change from what college

1061
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 2: football is always Well, as.

1062
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 5: I've said, you've had the power, always had the advantage

1063
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 5: because they have more money to spend and they make

1064
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 5: more money. That's the thing is, if you go to

1065
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 5: that model, it is going to create all of a

1066
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 5: sudden which actually will be cool for college football. I

1067
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 5: think that the teams that actually do the best job

1068
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 5: using equal having a level playing field are going to right,

1069
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 5: You're going to have much more variation.

1070
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: When that happens. It'll go back to the other things.

1071
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 6: Then.

1072
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 2: So in the old days in recruiting, how would you

1073
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 2: get kids to sign, Well, you'd be that it would

1074
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 2: be facilities. It would be oh we got to slide

1075
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 2: in our facility. Oh yeah, we got a water park

1076
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 2: in ours. It would be quite honestly, it wasn't a coincidence,

1077
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 2: you know when at Florida State that they would have

1078
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 2: one of their biggest visit weekends, Rush weekend. They know

1079
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 2: what they're doing of course, So like it'll be all

1080
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 2: those other things again. And so the powers will be

1081
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 2: the powers. I think all of that will be the same.

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00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 2: They'll just have money to spend. That's different.

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00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 5: You'll have a better chance though of coming up and

1084
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 5: then become There will be opportunities for new schools to

1085
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 5: become powers that I don't think exist right now.

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00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 2: Maybe I think what you're explaining is going to happen

1087
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 2: right now. For example, you're watching the show Landman, Texas

1088
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 2: Tech is throwing a ton of money around because there's

1089
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 2: a couple of boosters out there, oil boosters who are like,

1090
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 2: we really would like to be good next year. We

1091
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 2: put a bunch of money into the new new stadium.

1092
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 2: We got Patrick Mahomes involved, like this is now is

1093
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 2: the time to strike, quite literally. And and so what

1094
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 2: I think you're gonna see is you see that if

1095
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 2: you look at the portal like they're that they're killing

1096
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 2: it in the portal much of money unless state would

1097
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 2: be well.

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Speaker 5: They lost.

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Speaker 2: The biggest booster is gone, T Boon. T Boon's gone,

1100
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 2: so he doesn't but he in the old days, it's

1101
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 2: like Texas Texas A and M. Those schools SMU look

1102
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,760
Speaker 2: at SMU s You and ever even played power Commerce football.

1103
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 2: They made the playoff in their first year, getting no

1104
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 2: television money because they can write some checks.

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00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:28,919
Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, man, yeah, that's the way it works, all right.

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Speaker 2: Your Cleveland Browns. We continue our positional reviews in the

1117
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 2: running back room, and boy, you talk about question marks

1118
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 2: heating into twenty twenty five, they are here in spades

1119
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 2: in this room. Before we get into what is to come,

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Speaker 2: let's take a look at what was and the thing

1121
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 2: that this room kind of had hanging over it was

1122
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 2: just Nick Chubb and when he would come back and

1123
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 2: what he would look like when he was I think

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00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,919
Speaker 2: we did a pretty good job of being pretty honest

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00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 2: with folks about what to expect on that front.

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00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:42,439
Speaker 5: And it kind of lived up to it.

1127
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,240
Speaker 2: Sadly for Nick, his season ended prematurely with another injury.

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Speaker 5: It did, and really kind of you want to sum

1129
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 5: up the running back room in a nutshell, Nick Chubb

1130
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 5: played eight games, and he was tied for the team

1131
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 5: lead and rushing touchdowns and led all running backs with

1132
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 5: four total touchdowns. And he played eight games. Uh you know,

1133
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 5: Nick Chubb one hundred and two carries through and three

1134
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 5: two yards three touchdowns, the lowest success rate of his career,

1135
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 5: lowest yards per carry of his career by a rather

1136
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 5: wide margin. You did see him, though, get better as

1137
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,919
Speaker 5: he kind of got back into it. He started off,

1138
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 5: I'll go yards per carry per game two point oh

1139
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 5: three point three, two point six, four point five, three

1140
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 5: point oh two point three, four point four, and then

1141
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 5: a season best four point six in his finale. So

1142
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 5: there's but two. Really, his two best games were Pittsburgh

1143
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 5: and Kansas City. Those kind of where he really got

1144
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 5: it going a little bit, and that was good to see. Now,

1145
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 5: he did have a twenty carry game against Pittsburgh in

1146
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 5: the snow two rushing touchdowns in that game was massive

1147
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 5: and that fun win in the snow Globe. But you know,

1148
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 5: I think Nick Chubb you're gonna get next year, see

1149
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 5: him be as close to whatever it is that Nick

1150
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 5: Chubb is going to be able to be coming off

1151
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 5: this injury. And I hope that that is one hundred

1152
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 5: percent of what we saw before, which was four straight

1153
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 5: thousand yard seas and four straight Pro Bowls. Only got

1154
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 5: to average over five yards of carry in his first

1155
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 5: five seasons, all of those things that made Nick Chubbs

1156
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 5: so special. Deonta Foreman, I gotta tell you, I'll admit it.

1157
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 5: I thought that he was going to play a big

1158
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 5: role for the Cleveland Browns. You talked about a guy

1159
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 5: that had been successful everywhere he had been when given

1160
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,959
Speaker 5: real opportunity, whether that was in Tennessee with Brable, whether

1161
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 5: that was in Carolina, even had some big games in

1162
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,760
Speaker 5: Chicago a year ago. For Deontay Forman to not score

1163
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 5: a touchdown for the Browns when he was basically the

1164
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 5: goal line back for nine games is crazy to me.

1165
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 5: He averages three point three yards of carry, had the

1166
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 5: fumble going in against Cincinnati, YEP, massively disappointing. And I

1167
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 5: can tell you not only did I have high expectations

1168
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 5: for him, there were high expectations for him to be

1169
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 5: in that role. People thought he was going to be

1170
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 5: in this organization and ended up being incorrect, obviously, but

1171
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 5: that he was going to be able to do what

1172
00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 5: Kareem did the year before, but more younger, fresher legs, yeah,

1173
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,240
Speaker 5: home run ability, all of those things, and it certainly

1174
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 5: did not manifest itself whatsoever. So that was disappointing. Pierre

1175
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 5: Strong continues to get fairly limited work, but I still

1176
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 5: like him. I still think he can run. I don't

1177
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 5: think there's any doubt about that. And then there was

1178
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 5: Jerome Ford. Now, Jerome forty year ago, you know, really

1179
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 5: was the guy the majority of the season. He had

1180
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 5: eight hundred and thirteen yards rushing, four touchdowns rushing, he

1181
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,240
Speaker 5: had forty four catches through nineteen yards, five touchdowns receiving,

1182
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 5: gave you eleven hundred and three to two total yards

1183
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 5: and nine scores. This year so much better with less

1184
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 5: Last year he had two hundred and forty eight touches.

1185
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,399
Speaker 5: This year he had one hundred and forty one. Those

1186
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 5: one hundred and forty one last year averaged four point

1187
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 5: six yards a touch. This year he averaged five point

1188
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 5: six yards a touch the full yards better. His success

1189
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 5: rate went from thirty nine percent as a runner to

1190
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 5: forty seven percent this year. That's fantastic. He was good,

1191
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 5: explosive two runs of more than six He's got four

1192
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 5: of them now in his career. When you think about that,

1193
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 5: he has tied with Nick Chubb for the most sixty

1194
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 5: plus yard runs in brown since the Browns have come

1195
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 5: back in nineteen ninety nine, and he's done it on

1196
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 5: three hundred career carries. So home run ability did a

1197
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 5: better job. Getting North South worked very well. I think

1198
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 5: with Duce Staley career high five point four yards of carry,

1199
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 5: definitely a guy that coming back. He says, Okay, he

1200
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 5: can certainly be in a tandem for us and will

1201
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 5: be just fine with that.

1202
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1203
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 2: I think one thing I want to go back to

1204
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 2: on Nick, I felt like, and I know we talked

1205
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 2: about it on the show, I did feel like that

1206
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 2: he was on the cusp of a bus in one

1207
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 2: not vintage Chubb, but it felt like he was getting

1208
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 2: closer yes to where you could see one of those

1209
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 2: games where he ran for one hundred and ten on

1210
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 2: twenty carries or something like that that was in play,

1211
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 2: and it just was a shame that he didn't get

1212
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 2: a chance because it did feel like he was getting

1213
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 2: closer and closer to that.

1214
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, and that's what I was alluding to, the carries,

1215
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 5: with the carries, with the yards per carry, Sorry to

1216
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,919
Speaker 5: hit some runs over ten plus yards all of that. Yeah,

1217
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 5: I'm with you, and I think it's unfortunate that he

1218
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 5: suffered the injury again this year. The good news is

1219
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 5: it's not an injury that is expected to keep him.

1220
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,280
Speaker 5: It's not supposed to have any impact on his recovery

1221
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 5: from the real injury, which is the one that you're

1222
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 5: looking for to get close back to, you know, one

1223
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 5: hundred percent, that's it. That's really where you know you're

1224
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 5: hoping to see him. And I think he'll be there,

1225
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 5: you know, next year. Now, the question is, and I

1226
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 5: believe everybody wants it to happen, but it was a

1227
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 5: little more vague. It was Andrew Berry's press conference, and

1228
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 5: perhaps we're accustomed to hearing, but I think that you know,

1229
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 5: Nick Chubb will be back. This is also something to

1230
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 5: just note and we'll hear this more and more when

1231
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 5: we start talking to people. But this is a loaded

1232
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:50,240
Speaker 5: running back draft, dude, loaded. Just look around the playoff.

1233
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 5: Loaded it is.

1234
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 2: And I do think that this room needs an influx

1235
00:56:56,000 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 2: of weaponry, dangerous weaponry thing people that are feared, yep,

1236
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 2: to defend it's it needs a shot in the yard.

1237
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 2: The whole offense does. But yeah, for for the long

1238
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 2: for a long time since you and I have been

1239
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 2: doing the show, we had twenty four who's right outside

1240
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 2: the room here watching as we as we go over

1241
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 2: this up on the on the billboard thing there. But yeah,

1242
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 2: that that isn't in this room right now. Jerome's Ford's

1243
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 2: done it a little bit, but you need to get

1244
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 2: a real weapon back there again, and someone who can

1245
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 2: be relied upon for eighteen carries, a guy who can

1246
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 2: come out of the backfield, uh, someone who is to

1247
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 2: be feared out of your out of your backfield.

1248
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 5: It is needed, It is definitely needed. This is a

1249
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 5: draft in which I think you can address a lot

1250
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 5: of things. Not a great receiver draft, but you know

1251
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 5: where it is great. And guess what if Kevin Stefanski

1252
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 5: truly is taking the reins back and this is going

1253
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 5: to be Kevin Stefanski is going to have, as we've

1254
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 5: heard reports, more say in the quarterback, more say over

1255
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 5: this offense, we're going to be running his stuff. What

1256
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 5: does that mean? You need another tight end? Yeah, you

1257
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 5: need another tight end. This is a great tight end draft.

1258
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 5: The Browns have their own. They've got the the second pick,

1259
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 5: they've got the first pick of the third round of

1260
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 5: the second round. I'm sorry they've got an extra third.

1261
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 5: I think when you think about those first four picks,

1262
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 5: I mean, it could easily be quarterback, running back, not

1263
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 5: in any order. Tight End could be three of those

1264
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 5: four picks, and then you could say, Okay, maybe we

1265
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 5: want to tackle, maybe want somebody on the defensive line,

1266
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 5: and maybe it's a good linebacker draft supposedly, maybe want

1267
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 5: a linebacker. But I think you have an opportunity to

1268
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 5: get a stud tight end in the certainly in the

1269
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 5: second or even in the third. Same with the running back.

1270
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 5: I think that there's trument. I think those are two

1271
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 5: positions that the Browns will be looking at, and it's

1272
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 5: a draft that has a great deal of talent in

1273
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 5: those spots.

1274
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 2: From a running you mentioned the draft a lot of names.

1275
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 2: You know, Ashton Genty obviously, the top of that draft

1276
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 2: and the number one graded. But then there's a bunch

1277
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 2: of guys who've been around college football a long time.

1278
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 2: Both the Buckeye backs, quinch On Judkins, Trevion Henderson. You

1279
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 2: saw the burst that they have, Jordan James, who was

1280
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 2: great at Oregon. He's like the sixth running back in

1281
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 2: this draft. Dylan Samson was the SEC player of the

1282
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 2: year at Tennessee. He's like the tenth. Cam Skataboo's the

1283
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 2: ninth best running back according to Kuyper, Ali Gordon.

1284
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 5: Had a monster year last year.

1285
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 2: Like, some of these guys are home run hitters, and

1286
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 2: so you're gonna be able to get a real value

1287
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,439
Speaker 2: play there at this position, I think, and a chance

1288
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 2: to really upgrade it. Obviously, you hope Nick's back and

1289
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 2: be crazy to see him anywhere else. You hope he's back.

1290
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 2: You hoping get whatever his new one hundred percent is.

1291
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 2: You hope that he can get there. But beyond that,

1292
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Speaker 2: if you go back to the Kevin offense, you mentioned

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Speaker 2: the tight ends, I would mention this too, Like it

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean you have to go get Saquon Barkley. I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying that, but you need to have somebody back

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Speaker 2: there who can be relied upon and who is a

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Speaker 2: weapon and make defenses say, well, we don't want him

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Speaker 2: getting going nuts either.

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Speaker 5: And there's plenty of it in this stroud. And I

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Speaker 5: think that that's you can get that. At the running

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Speaker 5: back position, you can get that. And I said, I

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Speaker 5: think at the tight end position. Yeah, you know you

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Speaker 5: look at right now. I'm looking through Dane Brugler's top

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Speaker 5: fifty he's got I'm just gonna go from fifty up

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Speaker 5: number forty nine tight end, Mason Taylor, running back O'marion

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Speaker 5: Hampton from North Carolina's number forty. Caleb Johnson, the ring

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Speaker 5: back from Iowa's number thirty nine. He does have some

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Speaker 5: wide receivers in there, Abuka, he's got a thirty five,

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Speaker 5: which would put him in play for the Browns right there.

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Speaker 2: That's why I'm a second round best weapon available.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Whoever your best weapon available is in the second round picket.

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Speaker 2: I don't care if it's a receiver, tight end, running back, whatever, pick,

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Speaker 2: best weapon available.

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Speaker 5: He's got a tight end from Michigan, Colston Loveland. He's

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Speaker 5: got a tight player tight end from obviously Penn State.

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Speaker 5: That kid's good. Gibbe, you got a tight end for

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Speaker 5: us too, right, I mean there are kid a lot

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Speaker 5: of running backs and tight ends in this draft, which

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Speaker 5: is I think is going to be very Uh, this

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Speaker 5: is gonna be fun. This is gonna be a lot

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Speaker 5: of fun to see. And we're we're already our eyes

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Speaker 5: are there. But you're not getting as much draft content

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Speaker 5: as you're you want yet because I think they're waiting

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Speaker 5: for the NFL season to end and.

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Speaker 2: Then well in the college season's not to end it either,

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Speaker 2: So you don't know who's all going to be in

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01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 2: it because you don't even haven't had all the guys declared.

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Speaker 5: And their prospects are still showing last year's.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, on ESPN, they have a pretty their draft stuff

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Speaker 2: is updated.

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Speaker 5: Who do they have on who they have a tight end?

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01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 5: Whose kyper have a tight end?

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Speaker 2: He's got Warren Penn State, He's got him sixteenth overall prospect.

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Speaker 2: Then Loveland Mason Taylor gunner Helm from Texas, Mitchell Evans

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01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 2: Notre Dame is down there. Oh, Luke Lache, that's awesome

1337
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,919
Speaker 2: to see. Jim Lache's son, He's he's on there as well,

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Speaker 2: in the top ten. So yeah, there's a lot of

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01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 2: good talent there at that position. So yeah, you're gonna

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01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 2: be able to give these things a boost, and I

1341
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 2: do think this running back room needs a big boost

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Speaker 2: of it. We don't know what Mike Bloomberm's going to,

1343
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 2: what his role is going to be, or what impact

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Speaker 2: he will have. We assume we're headed back to the

1345
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 2: Stefanski form of offense. That would seem to be the case.

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01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 2: So all of those things will have to marry. And

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01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 2: there's a lot of things that need to be sorted out.

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Speaker 2: But one thing you know for sure is an influx

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Speaker 2: of talent is needed in this room. For twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 2: we will go around the league. Coming up nextualist to

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Speaker 5: I love the points.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it A little that little that you'll get

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Speaker 2: that through there?

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Speaker 8: So good.

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Speaker 5: Oh that's great.

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Speaker 2: It's prevented by Lee Filter, Official gutter GUARDI Your Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 2: Brown Special teams coordinator Bubba vent Trone named one of

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Speaker 2: the head coaches at the Senior Bowl. In Mobile defensive

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01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 2: line coach Jackson's Air will be on the staff of

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Speaker 2: the other team as well, so we get a first

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Speaker 2: hand look.

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Speaker 5: At these guys. Yeah, Mike, do we know the Senior

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Speaker 5: Bowl rosters yet?

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Speaker 8: I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: I think you're probably waiting for the game this Monday

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Speaker 2: to be done.

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Speaker 9: Right, because let's see, we have some accepted invitees. There's

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Speaker 9: no official rosters yet, however, so.

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Speaker 5: We don't know who's on which team. That is correct

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Speaker 5: to my knowledge, Yes, okay, so Milroe will be there, Jackson,

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01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 5: Dart will Howard Gabriel. So if you're from a Brown standpoint,

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01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 5: you are hoping that Bubba is going to get an

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01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 5: opportunity to work with some of these quarterbacks that you're

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01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 5: interested in. Yeah, because then he's going to get to

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01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 5: see them and give that kind of detail and then

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01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 5: the at least you're going to have somebody on both rosters.

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Speaker 5: How do they do it? Do they do it?

1384
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 2: It's I don't remember. I remember when Phil Savage run it.

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01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 2: They did it one way?

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Speaker 5: I is it really by geography.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't know if it is anymore. There was

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01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 2: a time it was. I'm not sure how it is now. Honestly,

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01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 2: it's the practices, like I don't even do they even

1390
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 2: play a senior bowl game anymore? They do, but not

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01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 2: everybody plays in it. Yeah, so's it's very strange, like

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Speaker 2: it's it's really the this is where all the value is.

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01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 5: So Bubba is the American team and there so there's

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01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 5: American in national So it's not geographic. But hopefully we

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01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 5: can get those quarterbacks on onto Bubba's team, which would

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01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 5: be I think very very helpful.

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Speaker 2: Well, it looks like Jock will be on the other team,

1398
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 2: though he got somebody on both.

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Speaker 5: So you should be okay.

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Speaker 2: Former Brown's special team coordinator Mike Preefer reportedly joined Bill

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01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 2: Belichick staff at North Carolina, along along with a long

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01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 2: time SEC offensive line coach, Will Friend. I did see

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01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 2: today that Belichick has not yet signed his contract.

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01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 5: Right, so what does that? I don't know what's going on.

1405
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 2: Their lack of understanding about how college football works. I

1406
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 2: guess it should surprise, but why contract? Do you know

1407
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 2: how much that would be is going to be used

1408
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 2: against him? Is there in the portal contract, he's not

1409
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 2: going to be there. Yeah, if you want there in

1410
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:53,919
Speaker 2: his contract, how would you go there?

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01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 5: I don't know. It's it's very confused. Good for Prief.

1412
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 5: He'll like Chapel Hill to be toul Town.

1413
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Speaker 2: Raven's offensive coordinator Todd Malcin interviewing today for the Jaguars

1414
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 2: head coaching job and Friday for the Bears vacancy per

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01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 2: Adam Schefter, He's brilliant.

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01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 5: Monk's brilliant. I mean if I was Shod Khan, he

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01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 5: would be at the top of my list. For for

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01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 3: He would be.

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01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, it'd be.

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Speaker 2: I think he could do all of it too, Like

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01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 2: I think he can be the front of an organization.

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01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 2: I think he can handle all of that stuff. He's

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Speaker 2: really impressive when he was here. I thought you and

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01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 2: I've talked about it a lot.

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Speaker 5: Can Kenny's question. I just saw another thing that came through.

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Speaker 5: Were talking about coaches in these in these bowl games,

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01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 5: it says Brown's assistant Nemo Washington of Bill Willis Diversity

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Speaker 5: Coaching Fellow will coach tight Ends at the Shrine Bowl

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Speaker 5: later this month. Shador Sanders headlines the players who will

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01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 5: be participating. Why is shra Door Sanders playing in the

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Speaker 5: East West Shrine Game?

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Speaker 2: I think because Dion did his dad and it's like

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01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 2: he's doing all the stuff I did. He made him

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Speaker 2: play in the bowl game. Yeah. I think it's Dion's attitude.

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Speaker 2: It's so funny because the perception people have of him

1437
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 2: as that he's all flash.

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Speaker 5: And all of this stuff.

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01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 2: But like his kids played in the Bowl game, He's gonna.

1440
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Speaker 5: Play in the I mean the Shrine game.

1441
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 2: Is usually yeah, well below crazy.

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01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 5: The only played in that. I think it mattered more then,

1443
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 5: must have.

1444
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, all that stuff mattered a little more back then,

1445
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 2: Like you weren't so worried about getting hurt or anything,

1446
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 2: Like you're invited to play an All Star games you.

1447
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 5: Played in him. Yeah. Interesting, So yeah, I just saw that.

1448
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 5: That's fascinating. Yea, yeah, that is what's going on North

1449
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 5: Carolina is very confusing to me. Speaking of Sanders, this

1450
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 5: is not on here, but this was reported by ed

1451
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 5: Warder today. I am told that he would almost certainly

1452
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 5: accept if Jerry Jones offers to make him the next

1453
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 5: Cowboys head coach, that those around him are encouraging him

1454
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 5: to pursue it, and that Jones is enamored with the idea.

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01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 2: Where did Where is Edwarder synonymous with what town?

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01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 5: Dallas?

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01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, anything's possible. But this feels to me like coach

1458
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 2: Prime would like an raise at Colorado and he's calling

1459
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,640
Speaker 2: in his So why Alice favors.

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Speaker 5: Edward or is saying that from Prime propaganda standpoints?

1461
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 2: Well there, I mean you could even it could even

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01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 2: be a Jerry propaganda standpoint. Jerry help and Prime, Yeah, could.

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Speaker 5: Be that too. Because and then today they have requested

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01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 5: to interview Kellen Moore, who we talked about yesterday. I

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Speaker 5: believe you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean if you hired Dion, you're also

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Speaker 2: going to tire an offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's true of but no, no, I understand that.

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Speaker 2: But like they're they're like to me, like the identity

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Speaker 2: of them is going to be through Dak. So you

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Speaker 2: want someone walking hand in hand with Dak for the

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Speaker 2: next five to seven years. Yes, right, So that's and

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01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 2: he's had a bunch, you know, they've bet Kellen Moore there,

1474
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 2: McCarthy's been there, different things that they've had to work through.

1475
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 2: So like I would want this done once, right, and

1476
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:09,719
Speaker 2: you're the clock's ticking a little bit on on deck,

1477
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

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01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 5: That's my guess.

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01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 2: Could be entirely wrong, wrong a lot, but my guess

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01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 2: is that's a Colorado thing where they're trying to get

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01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 2: some cash out of Colorado.

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01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, to up the pay there.

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01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 2: Which he quite honestly probably deserves. All Right, Coming up next,

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Speaker 5: These to us from Australia. Beautiful. Yes, love it, love it,

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Speaker 5: love it. Love her, love it, Jade? Are you Is

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01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 5: she coming to Cleveland? I saw on the I was

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01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 5: driving in and I saw on the billboard that the

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01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 5: guy she tours with, Joe Bonamosa wherever you have is

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Speaker 5: come into Cleveland in February. That would be something I believe.

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01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, Jayden Studio, Oh yeah, and we'll have to

1513
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 5: it'll be a little bit of a trial of Gibbe.

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01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 5: Gibby will be out that day.

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Speaker 8: I can't win, I know, I can't. Where's Gibby?

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01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 5: I know he's supposed to be. You're just didn you

1517
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 5: see him? You see him? You see him at the

1518
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 5: Ravens game last Sunday.

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01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,600
Speaker 8: Gone by the way, that guy ended up on the

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Speaker 8: TV brush.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah last week. I was like, oh boy, yeah.

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Speaker 2: All right, Uh, time to open up that mail bag.

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Speaker 8: Hello gibbe, Hi, gentlemen, you can tweet your question again.

1528
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:50,679
Speaker 8: What's it snowing again?

1529
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 2: When I was coming in here today, it looked to

1530
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 2: me like Beria was shutting out like half day. Yeah,

1531
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 2: like it was an exodus out of briham in Park

1532
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 2: High School. So I wondered if they knew this was

1533
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:01,639
Speaker 2: coming and they were out of here.

1534
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 8: Well, trying to get in this morning was not so great.

1535
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 5: That's a nightmare.

1536
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:08,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, true. I'm tired of attempting to shovel clean

1537
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 8: off my car. I don't even do it.

1538
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 2: Like it's the biggest in recent memory of consecutive cold

1539
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:14,799
Speaker 2: and snow.

1540
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 5: We have not had a winner like this in a while,

1541
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 5: in a long time.

1542
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, this has been what's coming next week?

1543
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 5: That insane cold.

1544
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 2: I had a hunch that we didn't cancel school this

1545
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 2: morning because that's coming.

1546
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 8: That's coming, Yeah, same yesterday or today. We probably could

1547
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:32,719
Speaker 8: have canceled and we did not knowing what is coming.

1548
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 5: So I was talking with my kids last night and

1549
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 5: there's some thing called the snowed a calculator. Okay, yeah,

1550
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 5: mine were aware of this.

1551
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 8: That is a real thing.

1552
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 5: Yeah. So they had ninety eight percent or bund. They

1553
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 5: had to go to school today.

1554
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, mine were like, well can we stay home?

1555
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 5: No, No, school's happening. Yeah, we're talking about.

1556
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 8: Uh love a dog.

1557
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 3: Today.

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01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 8: We'll kick things off with his question in honor of

1559
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 8: the great Bob ker, who is on your Mount Rushmore

1560
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 8: of broadcasting teams? Now I can? I am happy to

1561
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:09,679
Speaker 8: help you, guys. I have a list.

1562
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,639
Speaker 5: Uh now, I think I can do it. Okay.

1563
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:19,759
Speaker 8: Some of the greats include dick Enberg and Merlin Olsen.

1564
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,679
Speaker 8: Don't give too many hints because I want to. I think,

1565
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 8: who do you have yours with?

1566
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 5: Before?

1567
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 3: With no?

1568
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 8: I I don't right, Well, thank.

1569
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 2: You, damn Okay, gosh, I think really, Oh.

1570
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:42,719
Speaker 5: All right, I've got mine.

1571
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 2: This is a very This would be a very personal

1572
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:51,639
Speaker 2: because it's your experiences, right, correct. So in the John

1573
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 2: the George Washington position of my Mount Rushmore would be

1574
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 2: Pat summer All and.

1575
01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 5: John Mann had that first.

1576
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:08,639
Speaker 2: That would be mine in the Abraham Lincoln role, Al

1577
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 2: Frank and Dan Monday Night.

1578
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 5: I like that. I do like Alan. I liked Alan

1579
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 5: Chris together. They were great too. They're great too. There

1580
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 5: I wrote them down. But then when you I heard you,

1581
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 5: I like that. I like that. I'll say go with that.

1582
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 5: The Teddy Roosevelt role. Dennis Miller didn't make it that

1583
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 5: Dennis Miller.

1584
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:31,599
Speaker 2: It was a big Dennis Miller guy too. I loved

1585
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 2: his stuff, like he had that Dennis Miller Live on HBO.

1586
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 5: Heck, yeah, yeah.

1587
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:42,799
Speaker 2: I think Al did that just for to entertain him, yes.

1588
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 8: With some of his because there was no flexing at

1589
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 8: that time.

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01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1591
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1592
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 2: And I think it was also like, I like hanging

1593
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 2: out with this guy. He'll have this will be a

1594
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 2: fun guy to eat steak with and all that. Yeah,

1595
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:57,600
Speaker 2: that's what I think that was. I mean, Corneiser was

1596
01:14:57,600 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 2: on Monday Night football too, Yeah, he was, you.

1597
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 3: Know, all right.

1598
01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 2: This is just entirely from personal experience, and they they

1599
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:11,599
Speaker 2: ended up calling some of the biggest college basketball games,

1600
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 2: but they were it was. It's not the Nance Clark

1601
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 2: Kellogg and I love them, but Verne Lundquist and Bill

1602
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 2: Raftery the GISs Is Gold and I was at two

1603
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 2: regional sites they were at and Bill Raftery just loosening

1604
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 2: the tie straight from Hotel bar, Johnny Black Rocks, let's

1605
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 2: tell some stories. I like undefeated and Verne could suck

1606
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 2: down a Johnny Black or five. So I have like water,

1607
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 2: I got one.

1608
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:51,640
Speaker 5: I've got Bill King and Lon Simmons. That was my a's.

1609
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 5: Bill King was also the voice of the Raiders, but

1610
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 5: from the A's. I mean that's when we listened to

1611
01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 5: a ton of baseball in the car with my dad.

1612
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 5: I remember that. It was Bill King and Lon Simmons.

1613
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 5: It was they were there for the Bash Brothers, all

1614
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 5: of it. They were unbelievable, so good. So that's kind

1615
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 5: of that's my childhood one. Yeah, I want so I

1616
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,679
Speaker 5: want Nance to be on here because I think he's

1617
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:26,720
Speaker 5: I know, he played by play voice of Art lifetime.

1618
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 2: Really, I mean eighty six Masters though, like yeah, Al

1619
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 2: was only football for us though really, I mean he

1620
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 2: had baseball when we were really little, but mostly just football.

1621
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 8: NaNs and Simms were good.

1622
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think it was Nance and Romo initially

1623
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 5: were awesome.

1624
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 2: I mean he's all I mean he was. He did

1625
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 2: to do the Masters the final four in the super

1626
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:50,679
Speaker 2: Bowl within a ninety days. Yeah, but like his it's

1627
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 2: it's not the partnerships that I you know, I'll go

1628
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 2: with kurm mcgolf.

1629
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 5: So I've got a few more. So I'm just throwing

1630
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 5: names out all them. I have not narrowed it down.

1631
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 5: Madden on mind with you, he can't do four? No, no, no,

1632
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 5: Bill King and Lonsoon's are making it. And then I

1633
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:12,599
Speaker 5: have some aer all Madden, Some are all on Madden

1634
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 5: the Monday Night Booth, Bill kingham On Simmons. Who's your fourth?

1635
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 5: So it could be I'm just starting to name. I'm

1636
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:24,679
Speaker 5: not there yet, could be Nanson, Faldo for golf. Great together,

1637
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 5: Sir nick Is. They were incredible together j R. And

1638
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 5: the King from wrestling from the w W A electric Yeah,

1639
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 5: those are really the ones who did Who would be

1640
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 5: with Dick Vital Mike Patrick mostly end up being Dan

1641
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 5: Shulman in the end, but it was Mike Mike Patrick

1642
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 5: this time. That's a strong one too. Yeah, they were

1643
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 5: very good. My last the fourth one for.

1644
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 2: Me was Keith Jackson and anyone, but he did with

1645
01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 2: Dan Fouts a lot. He did it with a bunch

1646
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 2: of different people but him and then one others receiving

1647
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 2: votes Brent Musburger with almost anyone. You are looking love,

1648
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 2: you're looking live. I mean, that's so great, that's great.

1649
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 2: So that's a hard one. Good question. I like that

1650
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:15,600
Speaker 2: he did teams though. That's why I liked that. It

1651
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 2: wasn't like play by player host. It was like teams.

1652
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:22,640
Speaker 5: I like, what about So that's what Nanson Kenny they were.

1653
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 5: Kenny had a gravity to him.

1654
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 8: Yes, some of the other combos, John Miller and Joe Morgan, Ye.

1655
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:33,639
Speaker 5: That was and that was National Baseball. I was never

1656
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:35,719
Speaker 5: a Morgan guy. I always liked Johnny Miller.

1657
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 10: But with the Giants, Doc Emeric and Bill Clement great yep,

1658
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 10: L Michaels and Jim Palmer predates many.

1659
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 8: They had Gus Johnson and Dan Bonner CBS.

1660
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 2: That's when Gus had that run on the Final four.

1661
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 2: We're like he had like the Ron Lewis game.

1662
01:18:58,280 --> 01:18:59,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was at that time.

1663
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:03,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, Verne and Gary Danielson sec on CBS.

1664
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 5: They did.

1665
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 2: But I don't think Gary Danielson could suck down a

1666
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 2: Johnny Black like Bill Raftery could.

1667
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 5: I would agree, is bucking Akman? Are they how long

1668
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 5: have they been I think they'll get there. How long

1669
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:14,719
Speaker 5: have they been together?

1670
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 2: A long time? I mean since isn't that the only

1671
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:19,759
Speaker 2: guy Bucks ever worked with at Fox?

1672
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 6: I think now?

1673
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 8: This particular list actually threw in a couple of ESPN

1674
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 8: announcers Patrick and Olberman play by play.

1675
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 5: That's not it. You can't do that. That's against the rules.

1676
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 8: They had Frank Gifford, Howard Coach Sell and Don Meredith

1677
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:39,440
Speaker 8: before my time. Yep, Jack Buck and Hanks Stram.

1678
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 2: I'll tell you who's good, is uh? Jim Lampley on

1679
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 2: the boxing? Yes, Larry meant with Larry Merchant and the

1680
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 2: Harry Letterman was it Harry Letterman card or whatever?

1681
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 5: The Letterman card?

1682
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 8: Jim, I got it?

1683
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 5: Seven to three? Dig was so great? Was Larry Merchant

1684
01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 5: Merchant's one fight? Yeah? The fight I think so.

1685
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 2: And he would go in and he would he would

1686
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 2: do the interviews like right if they got beat or

1687
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 2: if they won.

1688
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 5: Merchant was great.

1689
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1690
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 8: So love a Doug today.

1691
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 5: Thank you? Was a good Gorilla Monson and Jesse the

1692
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 5: body of Ventur that was mine?

1693
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 6: Was that?

1694
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1695
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:18,599
Speaker 8: Preston Uh joins us again this week with a fact

1696
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 8: and a question. Ye fact, of the week. You can't

1697
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 8: say the letter B without touching your lips.

1698
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 5: Be probably be the same for P. Right, I think he.

1699
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 2: B B G G.

1700
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:36,679
Speaker 6: Pop.

1701
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 2: You and I looking into the camera and trying to

1702
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 2: question touching your lips.

1703
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 8: Would you rather have the ability to time travel but

1704
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 8: never be able to return to your original time, or

1705
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 8: have the ability to readminds but never be able to

1706
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 8: turn it off? I'm reading mine.

1707
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 5: It's like a it's Malcolm glad Well. I don't know.

1708
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1709
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 2: I want either one of those things. Honestly, I woun't

1710
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:09,599
Speaker 2: want to time travel and never get back to where

1711
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 2: I am.

1712
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 5: That would suck. Hey you leave everybody behind?

1713
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1714
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 5: No, thanks with me? Can I take a crew with me? Obviously?

1715
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 5: What anybody would rat?

1716
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1717
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 2: Well then you're going I don't who would you? Who

1718
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 2: gets on that? I mean, that's Noah's ark stuff. You

1719
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 2: guys can sorry sorry g man me you're going to

1720
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 2: carry it forward? Man, because we're going backwards. I mean,

1721
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 2: you and I though if we traveled back to flourish

1722
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 2: mad men, oh God, never leave.

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Speaker 5: We would We wouldn't have to, so leaving wouldn't be

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Speaker 5: a real thing. We'd be worried about.

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Speaker 2: A compilation of just Don and Drake and Roger Sterling

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01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 2: conversations around the drinks they had in the office.

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Speaker 5: Unbelievable. It's everything I've ever wanted. I mean, if you

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01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 5: about from our standpoint, great sports on the radio is huge,

1729
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 5: iconic stakes at noon. So that the mind one. If

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01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 5: I could hear everybody's thoughts all the time, that would

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01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 5: drive me nuts, and I wouldn't want it. I'd be

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01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 5: It'd ruin everything. Nobody. I don't want to know everybody.

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01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:29,600
Speaker 8: Kyle Ryan found out recently he's going to be a

1734
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 8: dad for the first time. Congratulation any advice.

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Speaker 5: As somebody who is ready to go down that road

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01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:44,719
Speaker 5: the third time, Here we go again. Yes, just enjoy

1737
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 5: it's enjoy it. Savor it. It's gonna be hard, but

1738
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:51,759
Speaker 5: you're gonna want that back. It goes by very quickly.

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01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 5: And the other thing I would say is that you

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01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 5: still have to make sure that your primary relationship in

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01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:58,599
Speaker 5: your life, that you make time to continue to nurture

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01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 5: that one, and that you're identity is not just the kids.

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01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,200
Speaker 2: You are the most important thing I can tell you

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01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:09,720
Speaker 2: is you are not their friend. No, you're not old

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01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 2: ye You're not their friend. Even as they're little, you're

1746
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 2: not their friend. You love them unconditionally. It's the most important,

1747
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 2: most critical job. But you have to be the You

1748
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:22,720
Speaker 2: be the parent, and that's hard because disciplining is not

1749
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 2: fun fun. But if you don't, then they run the

1750
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 2: asylum and you raise jerks and you can't have that.

1751
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 8: Yep, Bobby time, yay.

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01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 5: Bobby?

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01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 8: What TV show or movie did you hate that? Everyone

1754
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 8: else loved Entourage?

1755
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 5: The Son of Body else loved Rudy Rudy.

1756
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like that movie. That movie does stink?

1757
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 2: Wizard of Oz stinks.

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01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 5: Rudy terrible?

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01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:01,599
Speaker 8: Is charcuterie a meal can be canby?

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01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 5: I mean you can take down a whole lot of presuot.

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01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 5: You're not gonna be wanting to do a whole lot else.

1762
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 8: No, how long would you last in The Hunger Games?

1763
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 8: Never watched it? I have no idea.

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01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:13,760
Speaker 5: What do I got to do in that? What is

1765
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 5: the hont.

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01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 9: Me?

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01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 5: You and fifty people are sent off into the wilderness

1768
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:23,240
Speaker 5: and until one person is the last one alive. Oh,

1769
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:25,720
Speaker 5: you're fighting for your life. I'd be just fine. I

1770
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:28,599
Speaker 5: think i'd be I think i'd be formidable and I'd

1771
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 5: be just fine.

1772
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 2: People around what's it like people around here?

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01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd be fine.

1774
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 8: What gift would you pick out for your arch enemy?

1775
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 8: I do eggs for a ze.

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01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 5: Girl here it's ar cheemy.

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01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:51,679
Speaker 2: What would be the worst? What would be the most?

1778
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 2: Would it be a hard boiled egg? Would that be

1779
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 2: the most vile things one could get you?

1780
01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 3: I thank you, But it's the.

1781
01:24:58,160 --> 01:24:59,839
Speaker 5: Hard boiled right in the garbage.

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01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,640
Speaker 2: That's that is the most vile form of egg right

1783
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 2: for you?

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01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 5: Is the hard boiled?

1785
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think it's crazy that, like somebody thought

1786
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 2: when you were a little kid, like, hey, here's breakfast

1787
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 2: sucked every day?

1788
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 5: What what doing? Like insanity?

1789
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 8: I would get something people do danger?

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01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 5: You know what I would get for Gibb because he's

1791
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 5: such a great affinity for the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'd get

1792
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:24,720
Speaker 5: him some Pittsburgh Steelers PJ pants. You did, that's right,

1793
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 5: and that happened. Actually, I might get comfortable, Yeah, there

1794
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 5: you go, young Gabriel. Gabriel. I might get him a

1795
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 5: a GP like an air tag for his wallet, so

1796
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 5: those things are always maybe his keys.

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01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 3: I don't know.

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01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:44,919
Speaker 5: That's stoppful.

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01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 8: What's what is your all time favorite episode? Of any

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Speaker 8: TV series.

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01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 5: Palestinian Chicken, Palestinian Chicken, the Red Wedding, that was not

1802
01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:01,719
Speaker 5: my favorite. I preferred to the Red. I think Battle

1803
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 5: of black Water.

1804
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 2: Was black incredible battle in the North, Winterfell, Battle for

1805
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:08,599
Speaker 2: winter Fell's unbelievable.

1806
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 5: Pine Barons is unbelievable. That was just on the other day.

1807
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:20,599
Speaker 5: That's just unbelievable. One. There's a lot of the curb ones. Yeah, yeah,

1808
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 5: there's several of those.

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01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 8: What would you do if you woke up tomorrow as

1810
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:27,599
Speaker 8: your ten year old self modern day? You're just ten?

1811
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 5: What do you mean?

1812
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:33,760
Speaker 2: Like, I'm like in my house and I'm ten. I

1813
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:35,720
Speaker 2: would look over at my wife and go, wow, that

1814
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 2: came quick, like all of a sudden, like you'd pardoned me.

1815
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:39,919
Speaker 2: I'm ten year old.

1816
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:42,719
Speaker 5: Sitting here with a wife.

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01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 2: That happened quick at ten? Really elevated you like that.

1818
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 5: I don't know. I couldn't drive to work. How am

1819
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 5: I going to do the show?

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01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 6: Yes?

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01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 5: You could double click? Well I could? Yeah, where you go?

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01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 2: James he had that conversation showed me the other days,

1823
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 2: like do you think I could drive this car?

1824
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 5: So yeah, I think you could. Really once you get

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01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:08,440
Speaker 5: off the freeway, that might get a little dicey.

1826
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 2: On those streets on the Turnpike, Baby, you could drive

1827
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 2: all zip over there.

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01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:24,000
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 2: Greg Gumble not mentioned, says Kevin, But I don't think.

1830
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 2: I don't know what team Greg would have been with.

1831
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 2: He was awesome, great at everything.

1832
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 5: Who was Deardorf with?

1833
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 2: He was with Al Frank Dan. That was Monday night

1834
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 2: football when we were kids. Was that was those guys.

1835
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:45,759
Speaker 5: And I feel like a lot of my dad's stick

1836
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 5: is being Deerdorf.

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01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 2: So he was the voice of Michigan football for a

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01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 2: long time, for a long time.

1839
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 8: So when he was a couple of years ago.

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01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:57,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, up until just recently, and when I obviously not

1841
01:27:57,280 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 2: going up here, I didn't know that. But when I

1842
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:02,680
Speaker 2: it was like kind of crazy to see him, like

1843
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 2: in the press boxes, It'd be like, man, that's that's

1844
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 2: my guy. That's there is he's in there living.

1845
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's today's mail bag.

1846
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 5: There you go.

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01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 8: We'll see if we can't get to a few more.

1848
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 5: At some point over the next I am feeling we

1849
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 5: have time.

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01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:18,639
Speaker 2: I think there's gonna be plenty of it, so much

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01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 2: more to come. You'll see Cleve the Browns daily on

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01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:21,040
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Speaker 1: Please Cleveland Browns Daily presented by bally Bet, an official

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Speaker 5: There should do a bunch of Mount Rushmore's every day.

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01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:51,919
Speaker 5: I'm in every day a new Mount Rushmore.

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01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, new one every day. Yeah, I like that one

1859
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 2: because of the team I do. Like I've heard plenty

1860
01:28:58,120 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 2: of you know, like studio host guys or play by

1861
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 2: play amount Rushmoors, all that, but like team, team part

1862
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Speaker 2: of it.

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01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 5: You said something when we were talking.

1864
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 2: We were talking about Jim Nance, and then Greg Gumble

1865
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:10,800
Speaker 2: recipes was mentioned as well. I don't know if you'll

1866
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 2: see that anymore. Like Greg Gumble worked for CBS for

1867
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 2: forty years. Nance has been the play by play voice

1868
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 2: for those things for forty years. Like, I don't know.

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01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be very It's much more different, much.

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01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 5: Different going forward. Buck had the chance, but when did

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01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:32,440
Speaker 5: when they went to ESPN, than I would say.

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01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:35,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean and that that was really out of

1873
01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:38,360
Speaker 2: loyalty to Aikman. Yeah, it was like I'm going to

1874
01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:41,759
Speaker 2: go with him versus so he gave up the baseball,

1875
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 2: he gave up he'd been the voice of Fox been

1876
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:46,559
Speaker 2: that face did the US open? Yeah, remember they had

1877
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 2: that for a couple of years. Yeah, yeah, all right.

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01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:49,560
Speaker 6: There you go.

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01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 2: Uh we are back tomorrow. Oh the Godfather, Vic Carucchi're

1880
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:56,320
Speaker 2: going to join us. We'll talk a lot of the

1881
01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 2: divisional weekend as well. You have that to look forward to,

1882
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:00,639
Speaker 2: which is nice. The next level was coming up next.

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