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Speaker 1: At this point, we're looking at a range of thirty

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Speaker 1: at the comparables, and you set thirty four to thirty

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Speaker 1: least thirty five. This is a balancing act, raising money

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Speaker 1: for your company while still promising our investors a deal

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Speaker 1: from the new movie Equity. It opens to this Friday

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Speaker 1: in New York and Los Angeles and nationwide in August. Well,

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Speaker 1: when you talk about raising money, let's talk about going

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Speaker 1: from Crystal Meth to Wall Street. Joining us now is

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Speaker 1: Anna Gunn, best known for her role as Skyl White

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Speaker 1: on the AMC drama Breaking Bad, for which she won

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Speaker 1: having me tell us about how you prepared for this movie.

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Speaker 1: Equity well. I talked with our producer, Sarah Alicia. First,

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Speaker 1: told me things that I actually wasn't aware of. What

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