WEBVTT - Get Your Head in the Game: ROBERT CURTIS BROWN

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Wildcats, this is Bart Johnson and you're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>gig your Head in the Game.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi. Everyone, welcome back to gig Yourhead in the Game.

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<v Speaker 1>Today's guest is someone high school musical fans will recognize

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<v Speaker 1>as mister Evans, who plays the proud dad of Sharpay

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<v Speaker 1>and Ryan Evans. But beyond Lava Springs, he's had a

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating career both off and on the screen. I'm thrilled

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<v Speaker 1>to dive into his experiences filming high school musical. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>some behind the scenes stories and catch up on what

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<v Speaker 1>he's been up.

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<v Speaker 2>Two cents. Please welcome my friend, my brother Robert Curtis Brown.

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<v Speaker 2>No way, come on, oh way, Yeah, I knew you're

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<v Speaker 2>you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew you were going to get a nice button

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<v Speaker 1>I'm shirt. Look at all sharks like, look at it

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<v Speaker 1>like an Evans.

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<v Speaker 2>I like I would know I was going through my

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<v Speaker 2>claws and looking for the Vands Evans shirt. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think I was not really like.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been wearing like a butt up shirt for those

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm gonna go coach on this one because

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, you know, Advance is gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>all to look a sharp.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got, you got, you've got to represent it, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I looked for the club I was. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>they make that shirt anymore. That was a while ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that did you wear something you wore something like that?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you always striped? Yeah, real crazy big stripes

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<v Speaker 2>and big big stuff, big big looks. Are you handsome boy?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good man, I'm so good, So good to see you. Likewise,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been too long, man, it has been too long.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so great to have you. Robert Curtis Brown, my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so nice to have you, Like when you

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<v Speaker 1>rolled up on on the movie. I got a friend,

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<v Speaker 1>I got this one. I love another adult another dad. Well, welcome,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the podcast, Robert. So great to have you, man,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Glad to be here, happy to see your face.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but people don't know is that we are really

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<v Speaker 1>our friends in real life? Hell yeah, met on the movie,

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<v Speaker 1>but like instantly, like right, right, do you remember what

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<v Speaker 1>that was?

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, let's go back.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to hear first of all, Robert, it's an

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<v Speaker 1>honor to have you here, one of the one of

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<v Speaker 1>the Evans family. Here where Sharpey gets all her stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>From I think credit for any.

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<v Speaker 2>Of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But man, it was so so awesome to have you

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<v Speaker 1>in the movies. I was so excited to have You've

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<v Speaker 1>done a million things before the movie, You've done a

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<v Speaker 1>million things after the movie. It's so fun to see

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<v Speaker 1>you popping up on TV and movies all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, all the time, it's always like, hey, I

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<v Speaker 1>love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I know we're going to talk about We'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk about all that.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course this podcast is dedicated to all the

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<v Speaker 1>fans out there for twenty years of being the most

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<v Speaker 1>incredible fans, my family, my East High family as I

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<v Speaker 1>call them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I just want to do something special, So I

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<v Speaker 1>want to bring in, like all the family members that

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<v Speaker 1>were part of this franchise that contribute to the Wildcat universe.

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<v Speaker 2>And we couldn't do it without you.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you for being a part of a big

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for twenty years to our peeps.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but let's let's bring it back to the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got you were deep into your career before you

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<v Speaker 1>got this phone call. I know you've done a minie

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<v Speaker 1>that you have over one hundred and twenty credits. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been looking him up and going. Man, some of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite shows.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, very fortunate, very fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you tell me like, let's just for the people.

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<v Speaker 1>This is all questions for for peeps, like how did it?

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<v Speaker 1>How did this start?

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<v Speaker 2>For you? This? Yeah, this started. This was really a

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<v Speaker 2>wild little intersection of of of of a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 2>I I got the call to read for Mark Taylor's part.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, okay, but Judy Taylor, of course is the

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<v Speaker 1>head of talent for Disney Channel.

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<v Speaker 2>She was awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>She was really instrumental getting all the right pieces and

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<v Speaker 1>people involved, and her husband is.

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<v Speaker 2>Just perfect for this character. You read the part for

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<v Speaker 2>Fulton Fulton, yes, right, for that first Yeah, so that

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<v Speaker 2>was the part I was actually in for. And I

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<v Speaker 2>remember going to to read and we read the part,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Kenny or Tega, our director, asked if I sang.

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<v Speaker 2>And I hadn't really prepared much, but I said sure, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I do. I sing, and he goes, you know, give

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<v Speaker 2>me something, So I sang on the spot, on the spot,

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<v Speaker 2>sang something from pal Joey. I think it's from Pal Joey.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit of me and a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 2>you had a dash of starlight and a dozen roses too,

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<v Speaker 2>then let it rise for one hundred years or two.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the recipe right too. And it's a little

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<v Speaker 2>bouncy and it's it's a sweet little song. So I

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<v Speaker 2>sang the song and he goes read these other pages.

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<v Speaker 2>So I went out into the lobby and I sat there,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, you're given five minutes to look over

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<v Speaker 2>the material. Came back in and it went really well,

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<v Speaker 2>and we had just a blast in the room, and

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<v Speaker 2>Kenny couldn't have been sweeter. And those both sides were

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<v Speaker 2>for mister Evans. Evans now mister Evans in I School

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<v Speaker 2>Musical two was really wonderful character with a wonderful entrance

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<v Speaker 2>and a big, nice storyline. So I was happy with

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<v Speaker 2>the opportunity. But who knows. The night I auditioned, we

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<v Speaker 2>happened to have tickets for the high school musical concert,

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<v Speaker 2>the music concert, music concert. Ah. So we went to

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<v Speaker 2>the concert and afterwards we lined up because my daughter

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<v Speaker 2>who was nine at the time, perfect age, perfect dad,

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<v Speaker 2>she wanted to meet all the characters. And they had

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<v Speaker 2>this big table and lines of you know, walk along

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<v Speaker 2>and sign the programs and all that stuff. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>walking down this line with my nine year old thinking

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<v Speaker 2>I might be playing their father. Yea, they have no

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<v Speaker 2>idea and they have no idea, and I'm certainly not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna say anything. But it was like I'm sitting there

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<v Speaker 2>with you know, with with my kids and with Ashley

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<v Speaker 2>and with Lucas, thinking should I say something to them,

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<v Speaker 2>I might be your dad. That's just a weird line.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a weird line. It's gonna like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what that's gonna get. It's gonna get you

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<v Speaker 2>thurity to haul you off. Let's not do that. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>just play this, you know, straight, and.

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<v Speaker 1>They might not even know you were there was a

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<v Speaker 1>dad involved in number two. Have no idea, you have

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<v Speaker 1>the script public before they did. At this point, they

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<v Speaker 1>could very well be just kept going.

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<v Speaker 2>And then like two days later I learned that, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>that I had gotten the part, and and beside myself

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<v Speaker 2>it was so much fun. And then and then of

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<v Speaker 2>course we had this you know, amazing experience in Utah

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<v Speaker 2>in Saint George shooting the movie and this beautiful, beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>golf resort, and it was just glorious. It was glad.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, by the way that I was at the concert,

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<v Speaker 1>it was so fun because you see, like all these

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<v Speaker 1>it's la it's a different experience, right, So all these

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<v Speaker 1>like big celebrities and filmmakers. I met Kevin Smith there,

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<v Speaker 1>like one of my hero filmmakers, right because their daughters.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what you do.

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<v Speaker 1>Many exactly, that's a great it's a great time to

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<v Speaker 1>meet everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, it was such a such a phenom

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<v Speaker 2>at that point. You know, it was like such a

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<v Speaker 2>such a crazy event, and it was packed and it

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<v Speaker 2>was high energy, and the show was really fantastic. And

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<v Speaker 2>the thing I realized in doing the listening to going

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<v Speaker 2>to the concert, listening to them is that these kids

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<v Speaker 2>like they're the real deal. I mean, they really had

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<v Speaker 2>the goods. They had the talent and the chops and

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<v Speaker 2>the dancing and they're singing and all of it. So

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, wow, there's nothing, you know, there's nothing pretending.

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<v Speaker 2>These guys are really good. Yeah, that's a talented group.

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<v Speaker 2>Judy Taylor, I mean, and ever all the.

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<v Speaker 1>Casting people, Kenny finds these super talented kids that just

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<v Speaker 1>are are so you know, I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>feel so. Sometimes I'll go to a Broadway show and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like they're either really good actors or they're really

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<v Speaker 1>good singers. They're usually not both, you know, so when

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<v Speaker 1>you find both and then they're so charming. Like we're

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<v Speaker 1>just talking about Zach and Vanessa. They were so charming

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<v Speaker 1>when they were together. It's just like electricsiss, Like those

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<v Speaker 1>two were so sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, thank you and yeah. I mean so all

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<v Speaker 2>of them were just so lovely and so talented, and

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, wow, did jump been to this pool? Is

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<v Speaker 2>pretty uh pretty special now?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that's let's talk about that. So you were

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<v Speaker 1>you it was just that one meeting with Kenny I

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<v Speaker 1>was in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that it may have been. There may have been

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<v Speaker 2>like a pre thing with Judy Taylor. I'm thinking there

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<v Speaker 2>may have been something, uh something earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>You done any Disney Channel stuff like did you know

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know really Judy before No, I had.

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<v Speaker 2>Done let me think I'd done uh several you know,

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<v Speaker 2>something a show called Kicking It, okay, called the Thunderman's

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<v Speaker 2>but I think that's on the Nickel after Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was after one anyway. Yeah, right, right, So, so

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<v Speaker 2>there were a few kids shows that I sort of

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<v Speaker 2>had had had been in on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I tested for Thundermans by the way to be

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<v Speaker 1>the dub dad. Yeah, it was me at There's Three

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<v Speaker 1>was like back and above, like it was an all

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<v Speaker 1>day event. Oh I have been a fun show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was fun. It was the back. Yeah, some

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<v Speaker 2>some talent on that show as well. Yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And then till two days later you get the phone

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<v Speaker 1>call and you're like, you're Sharpay's dad, Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>And by then she's iconic, like everybody loves shar Pei.

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<v Speaker 2>Iconic, iconic, and and so I told my daughter this

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<v Speaker 2>was happening. She was finishing school at a place called

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<v Speaker 2>Ocean Charter down in Culver City, sort of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a Waldorf Fie kind of school, but there were plans

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<v Speaker 2>to move them to our local homeschool, the public school,

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<v Speaker 2>and so over the summer while the movie was set

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<v Speaker 2>to come out and was switching schools landed at Grant

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<v Speaker 2>Elementary School. And her dad, who's dropping her off every morning,

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<v Speaker 2>Sharpay's dad. It was nuts every morning dropping her off

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<v Speaker 2>at elementary school. So it created quite a stir and

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<v Speaker 2>m came home one day, I'll never forget it. And

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<v Speaker 2>she came home she goes, I have too many friends,

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<v Speaker 2>so a nice problem to have.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I had kids in elementary school then as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know you.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't walk them in, No, can't do that anymore. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was pretty It was pretty crazy thinking a rock

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<v Speaker 2>started these like seven year old kids. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 2>knew that, you know. I mean I've been doing a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of stuff and done some nice projects and stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but that being a part of that phenomenon was so

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<v Speaker 2>completely different from anything else I had sort of touched on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean some big movies, well known movies and working

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<v Speaker 2>with big people, but that kind of that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like cultural yeah, milestone. I mean it was such a

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<v Speaker 2>huge hit. And to be involved in the second one.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, my character, as you wis, was not in

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<v Speaker 2>the first one, but the first one really set the

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<v Speaker 2>table and they got then. I'm sure when Disney realized

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<v Speaker 2>they had this, you know, this massive hit on their hands,

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<v Speaker 2>it was like, let's make a few more. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's a it's a great compliment to

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<v Speaker 1>Ashley and to Lucas too, like let's go fill out

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<v Speaker 1>there because you can't do that with all the characters,

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<v Speaker 1>but like the more interesting characters, like let's take a

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<v Speaker 1>look at their universe a little bit that happens a

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<v Speaker 1>lot on a series like what was their family?

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<v Speaker 2>You guys are so great. Jessica Tuck, who played my wife,

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<v Speaker 2>who was, Oh, yeah, and she's you know, she lives

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<v Speaker 2>two blocks from me and we you know, she's a neighbor.

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<v Speaker 2>Was she then like, yeah, that's great, that's great. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>the house that she lives in was a house we

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<v Speaker 2>we almost bought when we when we when we moved

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<v Speaker 2>to to this part of Santa Monica. So anyway, a

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<v Speaker 2>really small world. And then we wound up his husband

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<v Speaker 2>and wife in that great movie. Amazing, amazing. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>guys are so perfect together. I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, always think it's funny like talking to some

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<v Speaker 1>of the cast and and getting to know like like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I coach a lot, like I've been coaching

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<v Speaker 1>the last fourteen years on my three Kids volunteer coat.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't do stuff that pays money. I only do

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that there is a rule I have.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got to cost money and no rewards please.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh no money?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, that's yeah. My wife loves that plan. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because so like when I play coach, it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like, oh this is easy. I could do this

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<v Speaker 1>in my sleep. Man, Like a coach. Is this authentic?

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<v Speaker 1>And I always got a kick out of you, like

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<v Speaker 1>of where, like like where you went to school?

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<v Speaker 2>Rehybie were you where'd you go to school? To college? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I went to Yale to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yale, kid, that's what I remember. I was thinking if

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<v Speaker 1>I I remember that correctly? And then your kids carry

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<v Speaker 1>on this tradition and they went where right?

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<v Speaker 2>But I went to Yale after Yale? Yeah, id about

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<v Speaker 2>eight years ago. I love.

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<v Speaker 1>That is exactly what I want to see from from

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<v Speaker 1>Vance Evans.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to carry on my legacy, baby, But.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you pull that, you know, like missus Darbus,

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<v Speaker 1>she's she was on Broadway with Kenny and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to bring all her Broadway drama. It's like, there's God,

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<v Speaker 1>there's stuff to mine out of our real lives, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>totally totally you're doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, and that that whole I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I grew up in a you know, very middle class family,

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<v Speaker 3>but then you land in a place that's where there

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<v Speaker 3>are a.

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<v Speaker 2>Lot of pretty pretty well off kids. You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>getta you get a taste of a very different world.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it was eye opening. Yeah, yeah, oh that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you you did a great job of bringing that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of waspiness to right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So when we when we work together, I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>remember what when we were Do you remember when we

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<v Speaker 1>were in the basketball we had that was number two,

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<v Speaker 1>those number two when we had our scene together, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right when we were watching the basketball practice and

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<v Speaker 2>the boot were all there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, I've been watching the boys play,

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<v Speaker 1>right And and do you know this is like become

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<v Speaker 1>a trivia now because I'll for a while, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's more known now. But everybody wondered like if I

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<v Speaker 1>had a first name, like does coach have a first name?

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<v Speaker 1>And the only time my name is mentioned is from

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<v Speaker 1>you in that scene. Oh yeah, it's the only time

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<v Speaker 1>in all three movies other than that, I'm coach man.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. I'm trying to remember what I called you.

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<v Speaker 2>You call me Jack Jack? Hey Jack, you go to

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<v Speaker 2>see the Jack or something that Jack Bolton. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>good name, is a great name.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad you said it, though, because if you

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<v Speaker 1>did it then it would be up for debate forever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, oh, thank you, thank you for that. Well

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<v Speaker 2>you got it. There's another funny naming story in that movie.

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<v Speaker 2>The naming story is there's a big dinner scene we

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<v Speaker 2>have at the club with Troy and Sharpey and another couple,

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<v Speaker 2>and the other couple in the script, I can't remember

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<v Speaker 2>what their names were, but I went to Ken and

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<v Speaker 2>I asked him if he wouldn't mind if I changed

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<v Speaker 2>their names. Uh. He said, what do you want to use?

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I want to use Peter and Claire, which

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<v Speaker 2>are kind of waspy names right a little bit on

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<v Speaker 2>the side. They happen to be my kids middle names. Uh. Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I stuck them in the movie a little a little

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<v Speaker 2>nods of my kids, and Kenny was digging it. So

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. I love that. Yeah, a little another

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<v Speaker 2>little Easter egg in High School musical too. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we're always talking to Peter Barsacini on here. Those

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<v Speaker 1>are our screenwriter, and his daughter's name is Gabriella, and

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<v Speaker 1>Alicias his niece.

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<v Speaker 2>I think. So there's like, you know, there's some fun

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<v Speaker 2>little references. Yeah, the fun references there.

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<v Speaker 1>But that is that is a Kenny though, because Kenny

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<v Speaker 1>so but he's like, let me hear the name first.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to compromise on Okay, it's gotta gotta

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<v Speaker 2>have the right music, right, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So then, well so we did do you remember

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<v Speaker 1>I think we shot that in Did we shoot that

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<v Speaker 1>in Salt Lake?

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<v Speaker 2>When we did the.

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<v Speaker 1>Basketball I think it was back at Salt Lake for

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<v Speaker 1>for that, because because the movie was mostly shot down

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<v Speaker 1>to Saint George, right, which I think you did the

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<v Speaker 1>dinner scene. You probably did the dinner scene down to

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<v Speaker 1>Saint George in Toronto.

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<v Speaker 2>The outdoor, you know, the final the big final number

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<v Speaker 2>was we did the number that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the big uh what was it called? The big competition?

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<v Speaker 1>All the fans are gonna kill us. We don't come

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<v Speaker 1>up with it. Do you remember what it is? Star

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<v Speaker 1>dazzled Star Dazzle Award, Dazzle Award thing, go baby.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it was just the Showcase. Maybe they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have a name for this club, the sort of club showcase,

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<v Speaker 2>right yeah. Yeah, mister had won for the last fifteen years. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 2>never lost, right, Yeah. We did those and we did

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<v Speaker 2>all the obviously all the golfing scene, and the best

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<v Speaker 2>was the you know, the helicopter landing on the first team.

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<v Speaker 2>That's I forgot about that. My favorite entrance of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you had a helicopter, man, you do it

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<v Speaker 2>all right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like walking away from flames blowing up, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's at that level.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the second choice, right exactly. Helicopter Another That

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<v Speaker 2>was another hilarious small world story because at the time

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<v Speaker 2>the movie came out, my daughter had begun learning the

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<v Speaker 2>french horn, and so we found this wonderful teacher who

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<v Speaker 2>a couple people had recommended. He was coming to the

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<v Speaker 2>house and they were playing for weeks and weeks, and

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<v Speaker 2>she was getting pretty good. And one day he comes

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<v Speaker 2>in and he goes, do you know that scene in

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<v Speaker 2>High School Musical two where the helicopter lands and there's

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<v Speaker 2>that big french horn solo, which is your entrance song?

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<v Speaker 2>He said, I was the guy who played that on

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<v Speaker 2>the track Get Out of Here. I had no idea

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<v Speaker 2>this guy is in my living room who had played

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<v Speaker 2>the french horn part for the I'm not kidding. It

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<v Speaker 2>was like, you've got to be I mean, la is

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<v Speaker 2>filled with wonderful musicians, but the fact that the living

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<v Speaker 2>room crow to play the same inst it was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a trip. Ah. That's amazing. Yeah, that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Smoke amazing that that that place where you landed and Trada.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that that country club down there? Man, that place

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<v Speaker 1>is awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh beautiful. David David Hall. I'm mentioning his name because

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<v Speaker 2>he's such a wonderful guy. He was the manager of

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<v Speaker 2>the club and a couple of times we had spoken

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<v Speaker 2>and met while we were shooting the scenes and stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and he goes, you know, if you ever want to

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<v Speaker 2>come out and you want to play ever on a

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<v Speaker 2>day off, you know, please, you know, let me okay,

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<v Speaker 2>And I got I got that club. I think I

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<v Speaker 2>broke the club record. Ah wow for lost ball. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean thousands. I think you had to play together.

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<v Speaker 2>Fair ways were about that wide. My recommend they're about

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<v Speaker 2>six inches wide. It was brutal, there was, but a

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<v Speaker 2>spectacularly beautiful course. All David Hall was so was so

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<v Speaker 2>kind to us, uh to uh to set us up

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<v Speaker 2>to play some golf. All that's nice.

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<v Speaker 1>We should you and I should go do ah do

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<v Speaker 1>a round out there for the for the twentieth Oh heck.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he would love And I'm still in touch with

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<v Speaker 2>him actually, Oh cool, yeah with them? Yeah yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>can recreate the Zach's dance a dance splash the water yes,

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<v Speaker 2>all the good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so let me ask you a couple of things

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<v Speaker 1>about that movie. Do you have a favorite scene? Like

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<v Speaker 1>what what did you enjoy the most?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, it's always fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Like locationally, I don't know, but how you feel about location,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of the fun gets sucked away when

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<v Speaker 1>you have kids. You just want to be home with

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<v Speaker 1>your kids. But other than that, like location, vacation is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Go shoot somewhere fun, pretty fantastic. And that part of

0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:59.600
<v Speaker 2>Utah is so beautiful. It actually coincided part of the

0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:03.159
<v Speaker 2>shooting schedule, coinciding with my daughter's spring break, so I

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<v Speaker 2>was able to bring them to Utah, so they were

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<v Speaker 2>all They were all there for like that little week,

0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:11.240
<v Speaker 2>nine days, ten days, something like that. So it was

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<v Speaker 2>really nice. It was really nice to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>do a little work. And then we did some touring

0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:19.760
<v Speaker 2>around southern Utah and stuff. It was really beautiful. Yeah,

0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:23.280
<v Speaker 2>national parks out there, science Yeah, Well, there's a state

0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:28.159
<v Speaker 2>park just outside of Saint George called Snow Canyon, you

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<v Speaker 2>know it. Yeah, it's really close to Intrada, Yeah exactly. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really it was really otherworldly and it's like

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<v Speaker 2>these petrified sand dunes absolutely gorgeous. So we did a

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<v Speaker 2>lot there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, Uh were they on the set?

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<v Speaker 2>Did they come coming out? They did? I have a

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<v Speaker 2>I have a wonderful picture of M with Ashley, and

0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:52.800
<v Speaker 2>m doesn't know quite what to do with herself, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>with like megastars sitting next to her, and Ashley couldn't

0:21:56.760 --> 0:21:59.400
<v Speaker 2>have been more sweet to her. Yeah, So she met everybody,

0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:03.560
<v Speaker 2>and we walked around and met uh, met Zach and

0:22:03.600 --> 0:22:07.360
<v Speaker 2>met uh Vanessa and everybody. So they were they were wonderful.

0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:09.480
<v Speaker 2>That's good. Yeah, the kids are sweet, man. They were

0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:10.280
<v Speaker 2>always great. Laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>Their fame rose so quickly through those three movies. I

0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:16.480
<v Speaker 1>was always so amazed that they're they're so cool still,

0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:17.359
<v Speaker 1>they're so down to earth.

0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:20.400
<v Speaker 2>They never got it Snotty or Brady, you know, no

0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:23.760
<v Speaker 2>exactly just I mean I think that's partly because, like

0:22:23.880 --> 0:22:27.040
<v Speaker 2>as I said earlier, they were the real deal. I mean,

0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:31.320
<v Speaker 2>these were not people who were like putting on the parts.

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<v Speaker 2>They were they were they were that talented. Yeah, that

0:22:34.680 --> 0:22:37.800
<v Speaker 2>dancing and Lucas and Ashley is like, I mean, she

0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:40.320
<v Speaker 2>was like Lucy o Ball. She was so funny, her

0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:44.040
<v Speaker 2>sense of flaming and her her her sort of quick wittedness.

0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:46.160
<v Speaker 2>She was just so much fun to work with. Yeah. Yeah,

0:22:46.240 --> 0:22:48.840
<v Speaker 2>people love her, people love to hate her. Yeah. And

0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:50.720
<v Speaker 2>then then there's these theories. Have you heard the.

0:22:50.600 --> 0:22:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Theory of the the the lore of uh that she's

0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:55.879
<v Speaker 1>really the hero and Gabriella is the villain.

0:22:56.280 --> 0:22:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh, there's a whole thing.

0:22:58.080 --> 0:23:00.800
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty smart too, because it's like, well, Gabrielle's like

0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:05.880
<v Speaker 1>pulling her away and Sharpay is always trying to uh

0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:08.400
<v Speaker 1>get him to you know, to excel and be great

0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:11.400
<v Speaker 1>and double down and get resources and you know, like be.

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<v Speaker 2>His best self, and I Gabriel's like pulling him away,

0:23:15.359 --> 0:23:19.119
<v Speaker 2>man from his things. He's been working out. Wait a

0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:21.480
<v Speaker 2>second year, there's a home. There's a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>HSM universe. Yeah, yeah, HSM After dark Man, there's some stories.

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<v Speaker 2>You has asked me about my favorite scene. Favorite. Yeah,

0:23:34.600 --> 0:23:37.439
<v Speaker 2>it's so funny because because I think back on it

0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:42.320
<v Speaker 2>and there were it was just the whole experience of

0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:45.560
<v Speaker 2>being there and watching other scenes being shot. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the fun one was the helicopter entrance, which

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<v Speaker 2>was just, you know, so completely over the top, and

0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:56.760
<v Speaker 2>it was it was amazing that they were able to

0:23:56.800 --> 0:24:01.960
<v Speaker 2>even pull it off, you know, bistically. But but that

0:24:02.080 --> 0:24:05.160
<v Speaker 2>was that was pretty That was pretty spectacular. And then

0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:07.840
<v Speaker 2>just balancing and there I am with you know, with

0:24:07.960 --> 0:24:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Corbin and with with uh, you know, all these Zach

0:24:11.960 --> 0:24:14.199
<v Speaker 2>and Vanessa and everybody. It was just it was a

0:24:14.200 --> 0:24:16.520
<v Speaker 2>great It was a great way to bring the character

0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:18.200
<v Speaker 2>into the story. Yeah.

0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:20.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's such a fun character of those kind of

0:24:20.480 --> 0:24:22.159
<v Speaker 1>roles where you play those kind of roles.

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:23.520
<v Speaker 2>Do you do you love?

0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:26.240
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't feel like I get auditions for like

0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:28.000
<v Speaker 1>a flayer or a doctor.

0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:30.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, dude, yeah.

0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm I'm gonna try really hard to get his job,

0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:34.200
<v Speaker 1>and then on the inside, I'm gonna say, please, don't.

0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:34.480
<v Speaker 2>Get the job.

0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:36.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to have to learn medical jargon to

0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:38.760
<v Speaker 1>be like all like just somebody just feel like a

0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 1>dude or let you know, let me be happy, like

0:24:41.119 --> 0:24:44.000
<v Speaker 1>mister hey, hey, you know life of the Party guy.

0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:46.639
<v Speaker 2>It's funny. I just thought I just thought the character

0:24:46.720 --> 0:24:49.000
<v Speaker 2>when I when I started thinking about the character, I

0:24:49.040 --> 0:24:53.600
<v Speaker 2>thought of Richard Branson. Yeah, yeah, yeah, a guy who

0:24:54.240 --> 0:24:57.719
<v Speaker 2>uses his wealth to just open the world. It's like, yes,

0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:00.480
<v Speaker 2>not just to himself, but to his f family, to

0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:04.560
<v Speaker 2>his kids. It's like making things happen, bringing people together.

0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:09.920
<v Speaker 2>It's like this ultimate sort of uh you know, giver

0:25:10.440 --> 0:25:13.600
<v Speaker 2>and and someone who acts out of this incredible gratitude

0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:17.720
<v Speaker 2>for for all the all the possibility, you know, sort

0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:20.480
<v Speaker 2>of I sort of rather than thinking of him as

0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:24.639
<v Speaker 2>a guy who's just rich. Yes, I knew it was

0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:28.880
<v Speaker 2>about it was about you know, sending sending the ripples

0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:32.679
<v Speaker 2>out and making things happen for other people and and

0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:36.760
<v Speaker 2>having wonderful experiences. So that was sort of the energy

0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:41.560
<v Speaker 2>I felt was behind the character. Was just this abundance,

0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:44.800
<v Speaker 2>this incredible abundance, you know. Yes, yeah, you know.

0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I've been talking with a lot of people about their

0:25:47.320 --> 0:25:52.159
<v Speaker 1>characters who have not approached this like some actors might suspect, like, oh,

0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:54.480
<v Speaker 1>it's a dizzy's little Disney channel. I'm gonna I'm gonna

0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:59.040
<v Speaker 1>be this one dimensional, one thing, and it's just not

0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:01.120
<v Speaker 1>interesting that way you see in a big movie.

0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:02.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you see a big movie. I just watched.

0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:05.480
<v Speaker 1>I just watched a movie every night by myself in

0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:08.119
<v Speaker 1>the theaters for six nights. Cinel, Did you see anything

0:26:08.119 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 1>great the movie I wanted to see the least no

0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:15.199
<v Speaker 1>interest in this because I stopt the poster, like like

0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:16.600
<v Speaker 1>was this.

0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:20.560
<v Speaker 2>Cheney's handa movie? Roofman, Oh yeah, it's great. The movie

0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:20.880
<v Speaker 2>is great.

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:24.159
<v Speaker 1>Chris Kirsty Dunston was great, like terrific movie and all

0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:28.040
<v Speaker 1>these other like big movies, one dimensional characters, not interesting.

0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Just it baffles my mind.

0:26:31.200 --> 0:26:35.520
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, I just appreciate when someone brings more than like, oh, okay,

0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:37.600
<v Speaker 1>oh Sharp Pays Dad, Let's see it would probably he'd

0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:38.960
<v Speaker 1>probably be this kind of guy, let me be this

0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:42.520
<v Speaker 1>one dimensional character, so not interesting, but you bring this

0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Richard Brandson into it, and all a sudden, now he's

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 1>charming and interesting and wants to do good and you

0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:47.840
<v Speaker 1>could see it like, okay, Sharp Pay might get caught

0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:50.560
<v Speaker 1>up on the wrong side of that maybe right right

0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:53.560
<v Speaker 1>right right, texture that way and yeah, a little.

0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:55.639
<v Speaker 2>Too much or you know the pink goat the the

0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 2>golf cart, yeah yeah, over the top pink golf cart.

0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:00.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah.

0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:03.520
<v Speaker 1>But underneath she's got more than that going on. She's like,

0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:05.960
<v Speaker 1>that's the moment she's in her life. Underneath it's and

0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:09.159
<v Speaker 1>then you see she brings moments of this uh you know,

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:11.840
<v Speaker 1>there's the levity, but then there's also the sincerity of

0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 1>like these moments where she gets real and it's like,

0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:15.560
<v Speaker 1>you know what, those are the colors that I think

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:17.840
<v Speaker 1>contribute to make this thing so special and not a

0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 1>one dimensional it's like such a special thing.

0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, those kind of choices. Yeah, it

0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:28.720
<v Speaker 2>just it just you know, not not casting, not casting.

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:31.959
<v Speaker 2>It's you know the old actor axiom. You know, don't

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 2>don't judge your own character and say good guy or

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:38.960
<v Speaker 2>or a bad guy, or he's this guy, he's he

0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:42.879
<v Speaker 2>is who he is, and so so don't don't cast

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:46.359
<v Speaker 2>him as a you know, a villain who's just spoiling

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:49.440
<v Speaker 2>his daughter. He's a guy who's had up so many

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:54.160
<v Speaker 2>opportunities and and is using that to bring other people

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 2>in and make other things happen, to connect people to you.

0:27:57.760 --> 0:27:59.719
<v Speaker 1>Know, that kind of that kind of idea, And now

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:02.359
<v Speaker 1>its up all these fun things for you and your wife,

0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:05.080
<v Speaker 1>for Jessica like to get like like just be so

0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 1>much more interesting.

0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 2>Totally. I love it so that when they get to

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:11.720
<v Speaker 2>by the time they get to high school, musical three,

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:14.400
<v Speaker 2>we make our entrance that we've just been to India,

0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:17.399
<v Speaker 2>and so we dressful and all that, all those crazy

0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:18.440
<v Speaker 2>colors and you know.

0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now we want to know, Like I would watch

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 1>a show with you guys, like where they go next?

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 2>I want to see how they do. The world is

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:28.640
<v Speaker 2>wide open, It's wide open, so many possibilities. So yeah,

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:30.640
<v Speaker 2>that was that was a that was a fun way

0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:33.480
<v Speaker 2>to sort of approach the you know, the the the

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 2>idea of being so wealthy that you know, you don't

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 2>want it to be a burden on the guy, you

0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:40.880
<v Speaker 2>don't want to be it. But it was. It was fun.

0:28:40.960 --> 0:28:41.760
<v Speaker 2>It was really fun.

0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I know the answer to this already,

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:55.200
<v Speaker 1>but these are some of the questions that people want

0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:58.000
<v Speaker 1>to know from you. Yeah, who did you spoil? I

0:28:58.040 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 1>know this, but who did you spend the most time with?

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Who did you have like any characters that on the

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 1>show that you got to have a little more time

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 1>more like hit it off with or have good memories with.

0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, you know, mostly I think about mostly

0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:12.400
<v Speaker 2>with with Jessic, with my family, with the people in

0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 2>my family you know, uh uh Ashley and Lucas and Jessica,

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:21.680
<v Speaker 2>uh and you know a lot of our stuff was

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:26.240
<v Speaker 2>together and and so yeah, the four, the four of us,

0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 2>And it was also it was also you know, within

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 2>that within that story, we were lucky because we got

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 2>to play a whole family. We got to play you know,

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:40.560
<v Speaker 2>parents and two kids and and and come up with

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 2>the rhythm of our own and how we operated with

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:45.640
<v Speaker 2>one another and played around. So even in that first

0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 2>scene with the helicopter, some of the some of that

0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 2>dialogue and stuff was improvised. It was not. It was

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:54.480
<v Speaker 2>just we were just getting to know each other, you know,

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:57.440
<v Speaker 2>So it was it was really fun. You and Jessica

0:29:57.480 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 2>were just making stuff up. Yeah. Well there' stuff with

0:29:59.840 --> 0:30:02.720
<v Speaker 2>like Ryan and I you know you and Ryan. Yeah yeah, yeah,

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:05.040
<v Speaker 2>like you know, you know, you've been working out, you know,

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, you know, soy yoga, you know, and so

0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 2>all that stuff. All that stuff was just our own.

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:14.920
<v Speaker 2>You just brought that on the fly. Yeah yeah, yeah, Yeah.

0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:18.239
<v Speaker 1>Is so much more interesting. Did you guys make up

0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:22.400
<v Speaker 1>other stuff? Like Jessica seems like she seems awesome. I

0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:26.200
<v Speaker 1>just loved her. But she's and a super talented works

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:29.280
<v Speaker 1>a ton, but she's probably great to work with too

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:31.080
<v Speaker 1>as far as like improvising and just kind of make

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:33.080
<v Speaker 1>it like she embodied that case she went deep days,

0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm in, I'm.

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 2>All in totally. And and again the same we sort

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:42.360
<v Speaker 2>of connected in the in that idea of our characters

0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:46.880
<v Speaker 2>being you know, we're just like life is this banquet

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 2>and we get to we get to dig in, you

0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. Like that was that was sort

0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 2>of the way we thought about our characters.

0:30:57.040 --> 0:31:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I heard this, Uh this reality city star. He

0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 1>was somebody that everybody hated on this reality show. It

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 1>was like some MTV reality show, and he just just

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 1>was a menace, just I mean, like in real life

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 1>on the show, just like a tall, complete terror. And

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 1>he's like he's like, look, man, look this is a

0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 1>like someone gave me a Ferrari in life. Like I've

0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 1>got this little famous gonna last about five minutes. I'm

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:24.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna tear it up. I'm not gonna like tet you

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 1>like a baby and give it back to you like

0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, brand new, Like no, I'm gonna like CAUs

0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 1>as much chaos as possible.

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:36.719
<v Speaker 1>That So I was like, it was such such an

0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 1>interesting take, and I was like, oh man, there's a

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:40.960
<v Speaker 1>there's some life lessons in there. You know, We've been

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 1>giving great opportunities. And if you don't like grab him

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 1>and make something out of him, enjoy it.

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 2>You know. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely and I mean, my gosh,

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 2>here we are all these years later, still talking about

0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 2>this iconic movie. I mean movie that that. I mean,

0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 2>people people still, you know, when they recognize me or

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 2>I mentioned it, or someone mentions you know, you know

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 2>who that is, and people really like freak out. It's

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:09.400
<v Speaker 2>really they really like it was a big deal for

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:11.440
<v Speaker 2>for you know, for all of us to be to

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:13.040
<v Speaker 2>be involved in it. Yeah.

0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:16.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's interesting and and and well we gotta talk

0:32:16.240 --> 0:32:18.760
<v Speaker 1>about some of this other stuff you've done. But I

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:20.840
<v Speaker 1>remember when I was watching Handsmaid's Tale, which is such

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 1>a heavy show, and then you popped up. I was like,

0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, Curtis Prouh my gosh, and you're like heavy

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:27.000
<v Speaker 1>on that show.

0:32:27.040 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, my gosh, gotcha heavy? Oh, oh my gosh. Yeah.

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 1>But even though it's like this critically acclaimed, like amazing,

0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:37.560
<v Speaker 1>incredible TV series, do people freak out as much.

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:39.680
<v Speaker 2>About that as they do with this one? Though? Yeah.

0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:42.800
<v Speaker 2>It's very funny because there were I mean, that show

0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:44.920
<v Speaker 2>it was a lot, you know, it was. The show

0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 2>was it was timed so perfectly in terms of when

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 2>it was launched, the subjects they were talking about and

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:54.280
<v Speaker 2>what they were dealing with and and it was some

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 2>pretty scary stuff and it it came up. I mean

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:01.960
<v Speaker 2>obviously the show was in development for a long time

0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 2>and just sort of hit when it did. Yeah, but yeah,

0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 2>that's a show that that people followed pretty intensely. Yeah. Pretty,

0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:16.120
<v Speaker 2>Uh they were, they were pretty hooked on it. Yeah. Yeah,

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 2>and to play the guy who essentially the guy who

0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 2>essentially started billiad it's uh, you know, you feel like

0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:27.560
<v Speaker 2>your ground zero. But anyway, it was. Yeah, it was

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:32.200
<v Speaker 2>a great gig. Great, Yeah, spooky to work on, very

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:34.680
<v Speaker 2>spooky to work on. Yeah, it's so dark that show,

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 2>my gosh, so dark. And the mood on the on

0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 2>the set, you know, it's I mean Margaret Atwood, who

0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:43.000
<v Speaker 2>wrote the novel, was there. Oh, he was consulting on

0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:46.239
<v Speaker 2>the show and could advise. You know, she when when

0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 2>she wrote the book, everything in the book had happened

0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:52.800
<v Speaker 2>in history. There was an historical basis for everything that

0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:56.160
<v Speaker 2>took place at some point or another, and she pulled

0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:59.680
<v Speaker 2>these ideas together and so you know, the fact that

0:33:59.720 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 2>it was all all based in reality was pretty we

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 2>gave gave it an extra level of of terror. I

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 2>think for a lot of people.

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:09.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you know, it just tends to always go

0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:12.759
<v Speaker 1>back love like the authenticity, more authenticity in mind out

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 1>of a situation like boy, it just it just hits.

0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:17.960
<v Speaker 2>It's different truly.

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:21.360
<v Speaker 1>But what do Disney Channel people or or people that

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:26.440
<v Speaker 1>grew up watching those great dcom shows? Uh, what do

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:27.640
<v Speaker 1>they recognize you from?

0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:30.279
<v Speaker 2>Or what do they do? What do they respond to? Well,

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:32.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean most of it now is high

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:38.120
<v Speaker 2>school musical, but but yeah, uh, you know, there's there's

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:40.600
<v Speaker 2>a there are a number of shows that have sort

0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:43.399
<v Speaker 2>of come and gone, like you know, Supernatural or all

0:34:43.440 --> 0:34:46.440
<v Speaker 2>the Star Trek shows. I did all those and and

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:49.440
<v Speaker 2>and and they're these shows that sort of have these

0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:54.880
<v Speaker 2>really hardcore followings, right right, So so those kind of shows,

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:58.120
<v Speaker 2>but the the shows for kids, I mean, you know,

0:34:58.160 --> 0:35:01.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean my first my first movie was Trading Places,

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:04.920
<v Speaker 2>which became a huge, huge, huge hit. I mean right

0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:08.640
<v Speaker 2>out of school, and I was, you know, there I

0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:11.879
<v Speaker 2>was working with these you know, Hollywood legends, I mean

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:15.719
<v Speaker 2>legends like Ralph Bellaby and Donamichi. A few months after

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 2>I graduated, and I'm like, oh man, this acting thing

0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:21.400
<v Speaker 2>is so easy. You just we're talking about land in

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 2>this huge movie with Eddie Murphy and Droyd and James

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:29.319
<v Speaker 2>Lee Curtis and you know, just cruise, you know, not

0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:32.640
<v Speaker 2>quite the way it works out, but it's still one

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:35.280
<v Speaker 2>of my favorite movies. I love that movie. It still

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:38.359
<v Speaker 2>holds up. It really. Yeah. I was one of your

0:35:38.400 --> 0:35:42.479
<v Speaker 2>first jobs after school. Uh. It was my second job

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:46.440
<v Speaker 2>after wow, I did. I graduated in May and went

0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:52.240
<v Speaker 2>to do a regional theater production of A Midsummer Night's Stream.

0:35:52.719 --> 0:35:56.120
<v Speaker 2>Some amazing people Judy Jody Long who wound up being

0:35:56.120 --> 0:36:00.200
<v Speaker 2>the LA screen actors killed President Sag after a President It,

0:36:00.920 --> 0:36:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Keith David who has had an astonishing career, j Smith Cameron,

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:09.560
<v Speaker 2>who of course his own succession. I mean, some really

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:13.360
<v Speaker 2>great people in this production. And then I finished the

0:36:13.400 --> 0:36:16.440
<v Speaker 2>show and went back home, and it's like, now what

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:18.400
<v Speaker 2>do I do? How do I get a career started?

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 2>And then I got this call to gwinn and read

0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:25.520
<v Speaker 2>for Bonnie Timmerman and trading Places and and booked the gig.

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 2>So it was h Yeah, it was off and running.

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:30.760
<v Speaker 2>That must have been amazing to be on that big show.

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:33.440
<v Speaker 2>It was. It was well, It's funny because I was

0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 2>shooting the movie during the day and I was actually

0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:38.239
<v Speaker 2>understudying a Broadway show at night. Wow, So I had

0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:41.759
<v Speaker 2>two jobs at once and again it's like, I mean

0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:44.799
<v Speaker 2>light work. It's it's nothing. It's just like to just

0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:52.640
<v Speaker 2>go from gig to gig to gig. Yeah. Years later

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:56.480
<v Speaker 2>it's all the same, so it's uh yeah, it was

0:36:56.520 --> 0:36:58.640
<v Speaker 2>just it was just a really lucky break to get

0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 2>to get that first one, you know, in such in

0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 2>again another movie that that so many people know and

0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:07.400
<v Speaker 2>love and have seen, you know, multiple times.

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh my gosh, my first job in how when

0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:12.360
<v Speaker 1>I moved here, I'd like packed up my car and

0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:14.920
<v Speaker 1>quit college and did the drive and I got this

0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:17.360
<v Speaker 1>France for Coppola film Familia is my first movie. I

0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:22.959
<v Speaker 1>was like, but the the pain and suffering came quickly after.

0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:28.399
<v Speaker 1>Right then I started waiting tables and then to take off,

0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 1>and then uh, I get to quit that job, and

0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:31.759
<v Speaker 1>then a year later I'm waiting tables again.

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:36.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's that's four times. Oh my gosh, I know

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:37.640
<v Speaker 2>that's the roller coaster. Man.

0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:43.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, totally signed up for this stuff, like I know, right, So, okay,

0:37:43.719 --> 0:37:47.000
<v Speaker 1>so you've done and and what other? So you did

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:50.600
<v Speaker 1>other Disney Channel stuff before high school musical a bunch

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:51.080
<v Speaker 1>of stuff.

0:37:51.440 --> 0:37:53.279
<v Speaker 2>Did I do a bunch of stuff? Well, well, I

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:56.560
<v Speaker 2>guess Thutterman's was after Thunderman's was after I did a

0:37:56.600 --> 0:38:00.719
<v Speaker 2>show called Kicking It. I know. Yeah, remember whether it's

0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:04.200
<v Speaker 2>before or after. That's the problem with twenty years. No,

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I know, I'd have to have to get my IMDb

0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:14.759
<v Speaker 2>page up here and track everything. But I don't. I think, Uh,

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 2>those are the two that jump out of me. There

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 2>were probably there were probably others.

0:38:22.760 --> 0:38:24.560
<v Speaker 1>And then of course all sorts of other film and

0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:26.320
<v Speaker 1>television work before this time.

0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:29.319
<v Speaker 2>Lots of really good stuff. I just I don't know, man,

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:31.760
<v Speaker 2>I just got so lucky. I just got so so lucky.

0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:34.200
<v Speaker 2>I hit a couple of things, hit a couple, a

0:38:34.239 --> 0:38:38.960
<v Speaker 2>couple of big things early and and yeah, I just

0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:42.200
<v Speaker 2>had a really great time sort of sort of launching

0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:44.680
<v Speaker 2>ten years in New York after drama school, and then

0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:48.360
<v Speaker 2>came out here. You know, in like ninety one. You

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:50.800
<v Speaker 2>did a lot of theater tho those first ten years. Yeah,

0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 2>a lot of theater all over sort of New England,

0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:57.440
<v Speaker 2>New York, you know, Bufflow Studio, Arena, Syracuse Stage, Jeeva

0:38:57.520 --> 0:39:01.279
<v Speaker 2>and Rochester. Did a few shows. Was in New York.

0:39:02.440 --> 0:39:06.920
<v Speaker 2>One really huge production of Julius Caesar at the New

0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:11.440
<v Speaker 2>York Shakespeare Festival with Martin Sheen and Ed Herman, and

0:39:11.520 --> 0:39:14.000
<v Speaker 2>my dressing room mate was Al Pacino. So we got

0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:17.719
<v Speaker 2>down wow every night, every night. It was a trip. Yeah,

0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:18.360
<v Speaker 2>that's amazing.

0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:20.120
<v Speaker 1>You could be this long into this talking about your

0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 1>career and like this happened to casually drop.

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. He and I hung out every night and he

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:29.960
<v Speaker 2>was so wonderful legend work with and legend, and at

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:32.319
<v Speaker 2>the time it was interesting. It was just before he

0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:37.840
<v Speaker 2>started Godfather three. Wow. So he had a bodyguard standing

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:41.160
<v Speaker 2>outside our dressing room who just sort of screen people

0:39:41.239 --> 0:39:44.520
<v Speaker 2>so nobody could come in. And one day and on

0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:47.880
<v Speaker 2>this young actor. I was out of school maybe two years.

0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:50.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm just you know, I'm still trying to figure it

0:39:50.280 --> 0:39:52.600
<v Speaker 2>all out, Like how did I get here? And I

0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:55.480
<v Speaker 2>was putting Octavius, which I would argue is the best

0:39:55.520 --> 0:39:58.799
<v Speaker 2>part in Julius Caesar. It doesn't come in until after

0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:03.240
<v Speaker 2>the intermission fact four, and he's got the best armor,

0:40:04.160 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 2>the best armor or more length cake. I mean, it

0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:11.920
<v Speaker 2>was just my costume was spectacular, awesome, and all my

0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:14.279
<v Speaker 2>stuff was with Al Pacino. He played Mark Antony, so

0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:17.879
<v Speaker 2>he and I did all our scenes together. So there's

0:40:17.880 --> 0:40:20.080
<v Speaker 2>a little sheepish knock at the door in this guy

0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Lou who was Al's bodyguard, sticks his head in and

0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:25.799
<v Speaker 2>he goes, there's someone here to see him. Who is it?

0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 2>It's Bobby. Door opens and Robert de Niro walks in

0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:32.360
<v Speaker 2>and he sits down next to Al and they start talking.

0:40:32.800 --> 0:40:37.400
<v Speaker 2>And I have never taken my makeup off those slowly

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:42.880
<v Speaker 2>in my life. I'm just leaning and listening. It's like

0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:45.880
<v Speaker 2>one of these guys talking about one of it. Yes,

0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:49.240
<v Speaker 2>oh my lord. I mean I'm in this room three

0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:52.520
<v Speaker 2>feet from two of the biggest movie stars on the planet.

0:40:52.719 --> 0:40:55.680
<v Speaker 2>It was pretty. It was pretty. It was pretty epic,

0:40:55.840 --> 0:40:58.000
<v Speaker 2>and he was there were They were just great people,

0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:01.800
<v Speaker 2>great people. Wow, wow, some good, some good stuff, some

0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:04.680
<v Speaker 2>some great, some great early opportunities. You know, that's cool.

0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:07.120
<v Speaker 2>I have a picture of me and Al and another

0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:12.560
<v Speaker 2>having a pillow fight and come on, come on with

0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 2>Alpha Cheta. This pillow fight broke out at one time

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:22.840
<v Speaker 2>and he's like shying away and it was it was wild. Wow.

0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:24.759
<v Speaker 2>I did not think we were going to get to

0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:33.360
<v Speaker 2>that in this That's amazing, man, please please, yeah, absolutely,

0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:34.239
<v Speaker 2>that's so good.

0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:45.359
<v Speaker 1>I just got to mention I was talking to Peter

0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:48.160
<v Speaker 1>bars KINI or screenwriter. Yeah, yeah, you start talking about

0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:51.200
<v Speaker 1>where the music like originated from the show. What really

0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:52.920
<v Speaker 1>first time I got in the cities, well like in

0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:54.520
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty five, I had this job and I was

0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 1>driving around Janis Joplin and she's putting these eight trac

0:41:56.719 --> 0:42:02.520
<v Speaker 1>chapes some like so this is my Janis Joppa moment

0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:03.440
<v Speaker 1>with you and al Pacino.

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:09.960
<v Speaker 2>How I feel like stuff? Right, it's amazing, right, wow? Huge.

0:42:10.239 --> 0:42:12.160
<v Speaker 2>She would tell stories like and then this happens.

0:42:12.160 --> 0:42:14.640
<v Speaker 1>She's stick in another at eight track, taking play the

0:42:14.680 --> 0:42:16.879
<v Speaker 1>soundtrack to her next story, and put in another one.

0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:19.480
<v Speaker 2>It's a graz story. Oh you're doing It's so funny.

0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:22.040
<v Speaker 2>You say her, you say her voy her name, and

0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:30.719
<v Speaker 2>her voice is like, come long, comea sorry, I got this.

0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:34.480
<v Speaker 2>Janus Joplin likes it's in my brain. I love it, man,

0:42:34.560 --> 0:42:35.200
<v Speaker 2>I love it.

0:42:35.560 --> 0:42:39.080
<v Speaker 1>For this generation that's listening to this, go see trading places,

0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:42.400
<v Speaker 1>pick up some chances Joplin, and see some some al

0:42:42.440 --> 0:42:43.240
<v Speaker 1>Pacino movies.

0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Old school, old school, throw.

0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:50.240
<v Speaker 1>That got gems here for you kids. Yeah, guys, you've trusted.

0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Us this far.

0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so high school musical comes out, you get recognized

0:42:55.200 --> 0:42:58.920
<v Speaker 1>like crazy. I'm sure everywhere you go, like, oh my gosh.

0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:01.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, on street corners in New York getting out of

0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:04.480
<v Speaker 2>a taxi and this woman goes, oh my god, oh

0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:07.319
<v Speaker 2>my god, this is mister Evans. Oh my god. I

0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:10.040
<v Speaker 2>mean like that that kind of like Beatles stuff. You know,

0:43:10.160 --> 0:43:14.600
<v Speaker 2>it's like, it's hilarious. You've gotten this forever. I'm sure

0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:17.560
<v Speaker 2>you know that. You know the vibe, Yeah, just like

0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 2>it didn't see it coming, didn't like what a shocker.

0:43:20.200 --> 0:43:21.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, when you joined the cast, it was a

0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:24.319
<v Speaker 1>it was a big thing, so like you knew you

0:43:24.320 --> 0:43:28.439
<v Speaker 1>were getting into something iconic, but not twenty years later, No, no, no, right, right,

0:43:28.760 --> 0:43:31.560
<v Speaker 1>we you know, we looked enough of same that were like,

0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:33.920
<v Speaker 1>it's still we're still getting it, right, like still like people.

0:43:34.640 --> 0:43:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah. And then and then when you're I mean

0:43:39.040 --> 0:43:41.520
<v Speaker 2>I've been to movie openings and all that kind of stuff,

0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:45.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, premieres, but when you go to a Disney

0:43:45.320 --> 0:43:51.040
<v Speaker 2>event and it's dancers and singers and set pieces and

0:43:51.080 --> 0:43:55.319
<v Speaker 2>swimming pools and food and golf carts, and I mean

0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:59.560
<v Speaker 2>it was just so it was it was just huge.

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:03.240
<v Speaker 2>After this movie came out and the launch of the movie.

0:44:03.840 --> 0:44:08.480
<v Speaker 2>That whole countdown remember the countdown to HSM two they

0:44:08.560 --> 0:44:12.560
<v Speaker 2>did on the channel. Yeah, and there was this whole thing,

0:44:12.560 --> 0:44:15.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, you and everybody cleared the decks. I knew

0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:19.520
<v Speaker 2>so many people who like, I'm not doing anything Thursday night.

0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:21.600
<v Speaker 2>Thursday night, I am in front of my TV. I'm

0:44:21.600 --> 0:44:24.719
<v Speaker 2>not you know. I mean, there were big parties and

0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:27.480
<v Speaker 2>then and then when the DVD launched, it was another

0:44:27.480 --> 0:44:30.880
<v Speaker 2>big thing at El Capitan. Yeah. So it was just

0:44:31.000 --> 0:44:33.480
<v Speaker 2>it was just being part of a being part of

0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:36.080
<v Speaker 2>a real you know phenomenon. It was just it was

0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 2>so much fun. Yeah, so much fun. Yeah.

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:41.640
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe how many people have told me they

0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:44.880
<v Speaker 1>watched it on opening night with a party, and it

0:44:44.960 --> 0:44:48.239
<v Speaker 1>was that. The numbers were it was. It was the

0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:53.239
<v Speaker 1>most viewed cable movie ever in history television and then.

0:44:53.440 --> 0:44:56.920
<v Speaker 1>But the experts are like every household that was counted

0:44:57.160 --> 0:45:01.080
<v Speaker 1>had about twenty you know kids the movie. So the

0:45:01.160 --> 0:45:04.359
<v Speaker 1>numbers were like way off, but still still most most

0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:04.680
<v Speaker 1>watched it.

0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:08.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, totally, I totally get it. I mean I remember

0:45:08.200 --> 0:45:10.960
<v Speaker 2>I just remember, you know, in my house, my house,

0:45:11.400 --> 0:45:14.920
<v Speaker 2>my daughter was just beside herself waiting for it to happen. Yeah,

0:45:15.080 --> 0:45:15.640
<v Speaker 2>big stuff.

0:45:16.440 --> 0:45:19.719
<v Speaker 1>She was so she was she was like a year older.

0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:22.279
<v Speaker 2>I guess third grade. Yeah, so she had put her

0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:24.319
<v Speaker 2>second at the other school and then moved over in

0:45:24.360 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 2>third grade. Yeah, school, and and oh my lord.

0:45:28.239 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know it's funny. I've always thought it was

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:33.000
<v Speaker 1>funny because if I take my kids to elementary school,

0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:35.439
<v Speaker 1>the kids were crazy, but if you went to junior

0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:36.799
<v Speaker 1>high in high school, not so much.

0:45:37.280 --> 0:45:40.440
<v Speaker 2>They're a few years later. Right, It's like you just

0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:41.440
<v Speaker 2>watch it or grow up.

0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:43.560
<v Speaker 1>And now like I do, I do, Like I hear

0:45:43.640 --> 0:45:45.799
<v Speaker 1>people there, you know, I want a cameo, and you know,

0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:48.560
<v Speaker 1>I hear people requesting videos. And it used to be

0:45:48.719 --> 0:45:51.520
<v Speaker 1>like graduate, graduate from high school and you send them

0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:54.120
<v Speaker 1>a video. Now graduate from college. And now I'm like

0:45:54.200 --> 0:45:56.239
<v Speaker 1>that won't get married. Now I'm having a kid like.

0:45:56.840 --> 0:46:00.319
<v Speaker 2>I was growing up. I love it. And it's so

0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:03.680
<v Speaker 2>funny because as you know, as I've obviously aged, and

0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:05.960
<v Speaker 2>people say, people will say, and you may get this,

0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:09.799
<v Speaker 2>like I know you or we've met before, Yeah you know,

0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:12.520
<v Speaker 2>do you like you know, do you shop at Trader

0:46:12.600 --> 0:46:15.279
<v Speaker 2>Joe's or whatever it is? And I say, well no,

0:46:15.560 --> 0:46:17.160
<v Speaker 2>and then I look at them and I say, well,

0:46:17.160 --> 0:46:21.640
<v Speaker 2>how old are you? Yeah, yeah, oh twenty six, I said, yeah, yeah,

0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:26.200
<v Speaker 2>twenty six. I was in high school musical No, you know,

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:28.719
<v Speaker 2>jaw drop moment. Yeah.

0:46:29.000 --> 0:46:30.560
<v Speaker 1>I think if you're a millennial, if you're in that

0:46:30.600 --> 0:46:33.919
<v Speaker 1>window like one hundred percent, you know, Honor Curtis Brown

0:46:34.040 --> 0:46:37.319
<v Speaker 1>for for sure. Right, yeah, I've got I have had

0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:40.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people say, especially early on, and then

0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:41.560
<v Speaker 1>they got to know my character.

0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:44.400
<v Speaker 2>This is how it started. They said, you were my coach,

0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:45.160
<v Speaker 2>you coached me.

0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:47.719
<v Speaker 1>I remember you were, And I'm like, well, kind of

0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:49.120
<v Speaker 1>like no, no, no.

0:46:48.760 --> 0:46:49.759
<v Speaker 2>No, you were my coach.

0:46:49.800 --> 0:46:53.240
<v Speaker 1>You were I'm like, yes, yeah, I am your coach,

0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:55.000
<v Speaker 1>but not how you're thinking.

0:46:56.040 --> 0:46:58.920
<v Speaker 2>I'll let them get there. You know, you should say

0:46:58.960 --> 0:47:01.080
<v Speaker 2>to him, but I want to know, Oh did you

0:47:01.120 --> 0:47:05.040
<v Speaker 2>get your head into the game. Yes? Yeah.

0:47:05.080 --> 0:47:06.680
<v Speaker 1>And then as time goes on, then then they know

0:47:06.719 --> 0:47:08.680
<v Speaker 1>your character name. And then five years later now they

0:47:08.719 --> 0:47:11.480
<v Speaker 1>know your personal name, and it's like right, right, right,

0:47:11.719 --> 0:47:13.839
<v Speaker 1>twenty years you still still here?

0:47:13.920 --> 0:47:16.520
<v Speaker 2>We are, man, here we are I know right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, hey, before before you start thinking about leaving me,

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<v Speaker 1>what what are you up to? What you're doing? What

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<v Speaker 1>are you on social media? Much are you what are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing what you got going on?

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<v Speaker 2>What am I doing? I mean, you know this is crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>my my, My big thing right now is I am

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<v Speaker 2>playing I'm playing softball in three different leagues. Wow, I

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<v Speaker 2>am the I'm batting forth playing shortstop. And my team

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<v Speaker 2>in Manhattan Beach is going into the playoffs tomorrow. Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Ready for this? Are you sitting down? I'm ready? My

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<v Speaker 2>team is nineteen and oh whoa already league. All teams

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<v Speaker 2>are equal. We have run the table to WHO and

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<v Speaker 2>it's a perfect season for the first time ever. Excited.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still very elm still just digging the game, dominating

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<v Speaker 2>wherever you go, even in a park in Manhattan Beach, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>especially there. Yeah, No, I mean, you know, I've been

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<v Speaker 2>I've been very lucky. I did a I worked on

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<v Speaker 2>a show for Amazon for a little while. I had

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<v Speaker 2>a recurring thing on CSI. I did a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>shows there. I did a recurring part on Station nineteen,

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<v Speaker 2>The Firefighters Show. Yeah yeah, played Travis's dad on that one.

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<v Speaker 2>And so yeah, you know, just just keep showing up, man,

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<v Speaker 2>just keep showing up. Yeah. Yeah, Well, you you are

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<v Speaker 2>a true like working actor. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>You got such a body of work you've done for

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<v Speaker 1>so many decades. It's just I feel the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>Nount God. So grateful, yeah, so grateful for it. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's people say, you know, you gotta retire, and I said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I've been retired since the day I

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<v Speaker 2>graduated from drama school. Yeah, yeah, you know, a long

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<v Speaker 2>time ago. And then you know, you do the gigs

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<v Speaker 2>when they come along, and you hopefully you enjoy your

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<v Speaker 2>life in between, and you you know, you don't you

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<v Speaker 2>don't hook too much on any of them, and just

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<v Speaker 2>do your best when the opportunities come along.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think retirement, like for an actor, it used

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<v Speaker 1>to be maybe moving away, moving to the countryside, but

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<v Speaker 1>now that it self tapes like, is there a retirement?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I know, there's only people in their eighties and nineties,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, look at June squib She's had a

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<v Speaker 2>career that started when she was like seventy. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're saying as we're available, we're available, we're here.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not ever going to retire.

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<v Speaker 1>So you need a couple of couple dads, you know, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you get them right on, right on. I'd see that show.

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<v Speaker 1>Heck you Troy's dad Sharpay's dad off on an adventure.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, playing tuff ball together, that's right, Jack and.

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<v Speaker 2>Vance advanced dude, I don't want to say it right,

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<v Speaker 2>say that a couple of times like where this is going? Man?

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<v Speaker 2>Well hey please post that stuff? What what's your do?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you ever handle? What are you on Instagram? Guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you Curtis Brown? Robert Curtis Brown? One word? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>one one big giant loan all the way across the stop.

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<v Speaker 2>A very cool yes, brother? What what a what a treat?

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<v Speaker 2>So great to see your face. You look like you

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<v Speaker 2>have not you like sleeping in a cryogenic chamber or something.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, we're.

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<v Speaker 1>Stayed active and uh gosh, it's a good it's a

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<v Speaker 1>good thing to do for as an actor, I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>So. Uh Yeah, we're blessed, man, we are. We're blessed, truly.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the it's just our souls. They're just so pure.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Great to see. But let's get together soon, right on.

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<v Speaker 1>Congrats with with everything and thanks for spending some time

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<v Speaker 1>with with me, with our wildcat, with our people, our

0:51:00.640 --> 0:51:04.200
<v Speaker 1>East High family. Yeah, we are, we are. We are

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<v Speaker 1>so grateful for all of you out there. So I

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<v Speaker 1>love you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>We are indeed, we are indeed spend what a ride, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years ride, yeah, twenty years more. Man, Let's keep

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<v Speaker 2>it going. Let's do it, jack and dance, all right, baby,

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<v Speaker 2>love it over stickers, lunchboxes. Oh yeah, man, I gotta

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<v Speaker 2>get all the merchandising. I love that the kids are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be especially the kids are gonna love it.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna love it all right, rally all right, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll talk to you suit all the best. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>being here, all right, take care o, goodbye