WEBVTT - EP 420: Finding Love....Again! (Ft. Tank) 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.760 Welcome to Decisions Decisions. I don't think you should say 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:06.040 decisions decisions. It sounded like you was talking to this person. 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:09.400 You definitely say to welcome, Welcome to the new podcast. 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:18.560 You want to say together decisions decisions. Hey guys, girl, 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:24.239 welcome to another episode of Decisions Decisions. 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:26.799 You know, we got to guess some fine because we 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:29.000 were doing different ship. Let us have somebody who we 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:29.760 just don't care about it O. 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:33.360 Welcome back everybody. Now, this whole got the moment. I'm 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:36.600 your girl, man, d P, I'm weazy and it's a 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:39.080 threesome today. That's right. 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:42.720 We are joined by we could call them a cousin, 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:45.320 so we're not doing incests. So technically it's not that 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:49.760 our black fam How far my cousin removed? 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:53.440 All right, girl, a marriage cousin or. 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:55.920 Like distant country cousin at the cookout? Did you ain't 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:57.160 know what you right now? 0:00:57.800 --> 0:00:59.639 When I went to my family union, there was like, oh, 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:03.520 that's one with the white daddy, y'all. 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:09.919 We have singer songwriter Broadway song the motherfucker Bauldy. 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:14.920 It's all required when you're a musician to wear shirts 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:17.200 like that, Like why do It's always just you gotta 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:19.399 see it a little bit, a little bumps in arms. 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:25.440 If you have it, Oh, don't come on here, even 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:27.760 the little squinty eyes. We just need you to beg 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:31.120 It's not my fault because it's looking. 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:34.640 Like no, I'm not like, I'm not trying to smolder. 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:36.679 That's when people ask you d be like, yeah, I'm 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:38.160 a tenth Asiana. 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:41.240 I wake up smoldering. You know what I mean? I 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:42.600 felt I feel like I am. 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:45.720 I think the energy though, is beautiful because like we're 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:48.200 making fun of it, but it is also the allure 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:51.200 to be a good singer. To me, it's having that 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:55.440 like sexual energy, having that natural just I don't know, 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:57.160 I don't even want to call it flirting, but it's 0:01:57.200 --> 0:01:58.640 almost like the attentiveness. 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:00.000 Oh, I'm not gonna lie. It's what I say. 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:02.360 Said is wrong with R and B today, Like they'd 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:05.480 be talking about like some fuck niggas ship but they're ugly, 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:08.519 like they're not attractive enough to be saying the things 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:11.080 they're saying. And I'm not saying names. I'm just saying 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:12.720 that to me is what is a little bit wrong 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:14.840 with male R and B today? Like where is the 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:15.679 fine ones at? 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.840 You know? What and to that, I can say it's 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:23.079 very subjective in terms of what you think is attractive. 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:27.680 Because back in his day he looked I think he 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:28.520 was girl. 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:31.560 Okay, okay, I'll just try to be like he was 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:35.079 a handsome man, but he wasn't because we're not allowed 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:36.880 to call people that ain't not. 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:40.520 But think about this though, it wasn't necessarily like it 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:46.480 wasn't necessarily like if they were lookers, just like you know, 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:52.839 just without anything right, but the presentation overall, like when 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:56.200 you saw what Luther had on you, you saw what Martin, 0:02:56.840 --> 0:03:00.880 what what Marvin had on when you saw the temptations 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:04.320 had on the way the way they walked it and 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:06.480 talked it. You know what I'm saying, It was like this, 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:10.760 Oh there's something there that is attractive. It doesn't necessarily 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:14.359 have to be that you are physically attractive. But let's 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:17.959 get into this word aura. Right, are your energy? You're 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:20.000 you know what I'm saying. There are things that are 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:21.920 attractive and these things are curated. 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:23.000 What women do you. 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:25.360 Think have it that are like we can call it 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:29.400 out like who has that aura that's a singer and 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:31.760 entertain a period, Like who do you think has it? 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:34.760 Because to me, Alicia Wan of Alsha could wear a 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:37.560 cargo jeans and a stud fit and we like, what 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:38.840 it's goddess energy. 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:39.440 It's crazy. 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:43.600 You know what. I always refrain from from speaking on 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:45.560 women who have husbands. 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:50.800 I'm respectful that we don't know, as. 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:53.960 Alicia's had it since since day one? 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:59.320 Right, speaking of Alicia, yes, and speaking of Aura, she 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:04.440 brought up but I got to see you live Hell's 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:10.200 Kitchen on Broadway loosely based around Alicia Keys's story. And 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:13.480 before you said a word? Is this a normal reaction 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:15.760 to before you said a word? Before you did a who? 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:21.480 The aunties in the crowd was like, whoa, honey? 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:22.320 Was your shirt on? 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:26.040 No girl fully clothed. He walked on stage with little 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:33.040 squinty eyes and just like I did you did? 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:36.360 I the piano on stage? That did not squid my eyes. 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:41.039 While he was rolling the piano, he was like, and 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:41.720 what I say? 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:44.240 He didn't say a word, and the girls in the 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:48.359 audience was just like Then he started singing, I do 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:50.320 want to say, y'all. I know I've been talking about 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:54.279 going to Broadway shows. I've been gassing for weeks going 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:57.480 to coe Othello, you told us during the Black Effect 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:01.839 Fest that you were on Broadway. I had known Health's kitchen, y'all, 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:07.040 where's my camera? By far, probably be bad. I've never 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:08.720 cried on Broadway until I saw this show. 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:11.159 By the way, the girl went to see Othello day before, 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:13.559 and I still it was gas in Hell's Kitchen. 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:17.640 No, so I said, I loved it. Let me tell 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:18.440 you though, real quick. 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:20.480 So when I see him at the Black Back Fest, 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:23.560 I said, oh, you're on Broadway, and he's like, I'm 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:24.799 one of the best Broadway starts. 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:26.400 I said, you know, Denzel on it. 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:29.240 And so I went to see Othello, went to see 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:36.120 Hell's Kitchen, and y'all, I bawled four times. The I 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:39.320 went with al writer tempest. I went with my good friend, 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:43.120 uh Britt. I looked up all you here from behind 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:46.600 us in front of us, the white people stood up. 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.440 Hold on, white people stood up and said that was 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:53.080 that was magnificent. So it's not like. 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:55.240 And what did you say? What word did you use? 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:57.960 I said, that was good as fucking I'm glad we 0:05:58.000 --> 0:05:58.880 was all crying together. 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:01.719 It was so good. I do want to know how 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:02.680 is it different? 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:05.400 Because I'm so glad you're here today, because you've been 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:06.239 using them vocals. 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:10.760 How is it different from touring? And and have. 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:13.159 You acted before, Like, how has Broadway been different for 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:14.680 you than anything else you've done. 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:18.960 I've done theater before. Okay, it was traveling theater, and 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:23.200 thank god I've done that before. It kind of helped 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:27.800 prepare me for this. But Broadway is the pinnacle, you 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:29.400 know what I mean? When you get the Broadway, this 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:33.680 is what theater is, super super theater on forty four. 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:37.040 This is where you know you you are, you are 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:41.560 made or broken, and you know, the the critique is 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:46.080 a lot different, the excellence that is required a lot different. 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:53.720 The people, the talent on Broadway is different. Actor, you mean, 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:54.600 all of. 0:06:54.480 --> 0:07:00.240 It's saying all of it the Broadway culture because for 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:02.919 most of us, we go to New York on a trip, 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:05.599 we go on to day ticks, We just figuring out 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:07.760 what we're going to see, right, But the culture of 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:10.880 the people that actually go, like what's the vibe when 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:11.600 you walk in the door. 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:15.560 Well, Broadway is its own its own world, right, and 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:20.400 so like our we have a og with us Keisha Lewis, 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:24.120 who's been doing Broadway for forty years, Tony Award winner. 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:27.200 That's the one that made she made and she was 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:28.320 the first one to make me cry. 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:34.880 You can tell that she is Broadway Royalty and that 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:36.000 it is not a game. 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:37.240 Who do you tell from? 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:40.480 Is it the like when people come out? Is it 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:43.840 your colleagues, like, what is the energy of Broadway Royalty? 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:46.520 What do you mean? What is it in it? Like? 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:46.960 Is it? 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:49.760 Basically when she goes out in the crowd, people know 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:51.080 exactly who she is. 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:53.160 Is it the staff? Everybody's just like whatever you want 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:53.360 to do? 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:57.520 Well, no, it's it's let me say, it's universal. Right 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:01.200 for the people who know Broadway, they know her, and 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:05.560 that's from you know, people who attend Broadway shows as 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:09.160 well as people who book Broadway shows, who direct Broadway shows, 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:12.760 who like, she's on the rolodex of if you can 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:13.880 get her, you get. 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:15.960 Her when it comes to like one thing I've always 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:20.440 wondered too, when you're doing Broadway, ain't no cut? 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:23.920 You know what I'm saying, hannay video cut? 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:25.480 Yeah, there's no do over? 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:28.760 Do you improv? Do you forget? Like what happens? What 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.080 is a real moment that you've had on stage? 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:34.800 You have to be able to improv because things happen 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:37.160 in live theater, you know what I mean. And so 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:40.839 you know, we had a mishap where the piano is 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:43.920 supposed to turn in a certain way. I don't think 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:45.160 you remember the same. I don't want to give too 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:45.840 much away. 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:47.840 But oh I wasn't going to give the scenes away. 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:54.840 But everything malfunctioned and we still had to deliver the scene. 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:58.480 And sometimes you know, it's it's a lot of silly 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:01.600 people on Broadway time. I'm silly, like I'm a goofball 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:03.440 and a lot of our crew, a lot of our 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:06.720 cast is goofballs too, like really talented, but we're goofballs, right, 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:10.480 And when this thing malfunction and the way I had 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:13.079 to come out and try to still deliver these lines, 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:18.000 people were crying, like the cast is crying. 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:20.920 The audience wasn't laughing. They didn't know. They didn't know 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:22.679 the audience that's such a funny. 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:27.199 And the light is on me. I have to stay 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:31.720 in it. It's like it's a very serious moment, and 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:37.400 I have twelve cast members dying laughing while I'm trying. 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:41.400 And then it started out of nowhere and I have 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:45.040 to get my toes on the turn about to turn 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:46.360 with it while still like. 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:50.120 Y'all gotta do it Key and Pill told the actors like. 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:54.360 You just need to turn around, don't lag. You have 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:56.319 to turn around until you get your composure back. 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:59.200 Now, when you read the script of this, because you 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:05.400 play a deadbeat essentially, okay, what you do, that's he's shit, 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:08.160 that's what That's what my daddy says too, all these 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:13.040 years later, he's trying. When you read the script, did 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:15.920 you realize it would evoke so much emotion, because it's 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:19.080 it's essentially without giving the whole story away with what 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:23.120 I love is through music, through just really the character 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:25.480 development that happens past too. You really get to see 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:28.800 who the people are. There's a love story between young 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:32.280 Alicia and her mom, her first crush, then. 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:33.160 Her cheatten too much. 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:35.480 Well, no, no, no, it's all these different stories. I'm not 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:38.640 giving any scenes away. It's it's a seventeen year old 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:41.440 girl battling it was Alicia's story, yeah, battling all of 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:43.360 these relationships. And that's why I thought it was so 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:48.200 phenomenal because the character development between her love of New York, 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:51.040 her love of the people in her building, and then 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:53.960 you have all of these other relationships that take place 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.679 while she's learning the piano, and I'm not sure if 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:01.080 that's like the real part. However, fit in I was 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:04.000 just like, wow, this is magnificent. When you see the script, though, 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:06.800 was there anything that you had to look up or 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:09.280 any movies that inspired how you would show up as 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:10.360 a fuck nigga on stage? 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:14.720 Because you did it so well, you did it so well. 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:20.000 Did you do a different accent? Did you have pieces 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:21.280 that a little too good? 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:28.640 The way you said all of those eloquent things have 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:36.600 been the question that was so good? That was really 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:44.079 I like that a lot. I got sides first, and 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:48.240 so when you get sides, what is that it's the 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:52.040 piece of the script that that you're going to read 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:55.200 to audition for. Okay, So I got sides first, and 0:11:55.240 --> 0:12:00.120 I was like, okay, sides only give you but so 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:02.880 much context, you know what I'm saying, instead of having 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:05.640 the full script. Right, So for me it was like, Okay, 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:09.080 I got these sides. Not even sure about doing Broadway period, 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:11.560 but it's the Alicia Keys call. I have to answer that, 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:15.280 And so I said, I said, how about we just 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:19.000 go see it first as opposed to shooting in the dark, 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:20.840 because that's what you can do a lot of times 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:24.319 when you're auditioning and you just get sides. You're shooting 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:27.680 in the dark, and you're so far away from the 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:31.040 actual thing from and what they want, like you're just 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:35.000 you're just and then your whole audition is about correction 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:42.200 rather than you know, adjusting good choices. And so I 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:45.320 went and saw it first the day before my audition. 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:52.920 I said, oh, that's what that is. Got it, And 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:58.880 you know, I didn't have to go see anything because 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:03.520 you know, you know, I unfortunately, I do have a divorce, 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:06.200 and I do have you know, I do have young 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:09.400 young ladies to my first two girls who are part 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:13.800 of that, and unfortunately you know, with them, you know, 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:16.400 living three thousand miles away and all these things that 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:19.640 you know, just over time, I have been part of 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:22.319 things where I have been a disappointment, you know, to 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:24.679 my daughters, and I've had to feel that I've had 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:29.120 to own that. So I know what that is, you know, 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:31.960 I know what that is on missing some birthdays. I 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:35.760 know what it is on missing big moments, like I 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:40.320 know what that is. I've been through it and so 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:45.400 even now still trying to you know, repair that damage 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:47.480 or do whatever I can do as a father now 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:52.200 to just be there and when moments when I wasn't, 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:55.920 that's it drew from me, you know. So it was 0:13:56.040 --> 0:14:00.400 very easy to step into this step. It was I'm. 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:02.200 Gonna tell you, Nick Cannon could play the ship out. 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:12.760 If you want to, you. 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:16.440 Know, outside of the Broadway. Something I've always been curious about. 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:20.960 It's kind of just the pivot of entertainers as they 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:24.680 get older. When I saw the R and B money 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:28.720 was on Black Effect, I was like, wow, can you 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:33.240 tell me, Like, you start off with this life, you're 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:36.560 known for this thing, and then maybe it's not your. 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:40.160 Every day anymore. How what does the pivot look like? 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:42.240 You Like, when you sign up to do a podcast, 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:43.640 you're like, oh my god, I must be taking a 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:47.320 hell Like that's how everybody treats the evolution. 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:50.640 Of the next job. Like no, no, no, nobody asked 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:53.440 us to do a podcast. It was it was I 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:57.280 was like, I'm watching you know, I'm watching the terrain 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:04.640 and I'm watching Oh I'm I'm watching all of these 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:08.800 cool conversations ramp up about so many things, you know 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:11.520 what I mean, so many great personalities, and and I 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:14.400 was like, man, we need that for R and B. 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:18.120 Like for me, it was creating something out of Anita 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:20.480 all I was hot, like in terms of Tank, Yeah, 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:26.240 I'm still hot. There was no decline to make me 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:28.360 reach for something different. 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:32.760 For me, it was adding to because you think you 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:36.400 were like a part of like Aliah's career genuine and 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:38.520 I know you ended up having the group later with him, 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:41.160 like you've been a part of R and B since 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:43.040 Mayas was in diapers not to age. 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:46.360 You know, it's like you've had such a long standing 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:47.320 career and you still do it. 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:49.920 Yeah. But my conversation, so my point was to even 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:54.200 starting it was before anybody else gets a hold of 0:15:54.240 --> 0:16:00.720 this conversation that don't know it and haven't lived it, Jay, 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:01.680 why don't we do it? 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:04.160 How do you feel then when you watch people talk 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:08.040 about music, music, podcast culture commentators, do you think it 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:09.600 is better for someone that's in it? 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:13.960 Okay, which is why you see NFL Network now high 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:18.360 players hee ESPN hiring the basketball players and the bait 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:22.120 like hiring people who actually understand what it takes to 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:24.120 do it. That's actually easy to take. 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:29.240 Yeah, my reasoning Sometimes when people say why are show 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:34.240 over others? I'm like, yeah, y'all understand we're actually ethically 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:35.160 non monogamous girls. 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:36.120 We're bisexual women. 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:38.360 We've done all these things we talk about and saying 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:42.040 instead of just commenting on other people's sex lives or trends. 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:45.680 And I really love content direct from the source. Yes, okay, 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:48.920 there's my RMB question I need to ask out of 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:52.040 the new school R and B guys. So, like I'm 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:56.240 someone that listens to Minnie Riverton Luthen and Brent Bias 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:58.400 and love them all and actually might play. 0:16:58.240 --> 0:16:58.880 Them on rotation. 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:02.640 So when it comes to new school R and B, 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:05.399 is it easy to hate on it? Or can you 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:06.480 appreciate the new art? 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:08.320 Who do you like? What are your thoughts about the 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:09.240 new vibe of R and B? 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:12.919 Like you gotta remember that I help usher that in, 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:16.760 you know what I mean. Trap So stuff like I 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:18.920 had I had Ato eight's and Collapse in two thousand 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:21.520 and seven and Please Don't Go, which was the number 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:24.880 one record for me for fifteen weeks I Can't and 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:27.520 the cadences you know, from me to Usher, you know 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:30.520 all the like we we helped do that, you know 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:32.520 what I mean. It's not a it's not a new genre, 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:34.640 it's just more kids are doing it more kids are 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:38.840 they They respond to it and feel it better because 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:41.240 trap is so big now and our and our and 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:43.800 our generation trap wasn't big like that. Yea, yeah, it 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:47.240 got big and kind of took over everything after that, 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:48.760 and then people are like, oh, we need more R 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:51.040 and B to sounds like drap And I'm staying there like, well. 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:52.959 I've been here, but what about the lyrics? Do you 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:56.880 like hearing music like me and my visuals bucking? 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:01.000 You know what? I can't. I don't hate on how 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:04.119 you communicate it, you know what I'm saying because I 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:07.160 tell every artist listen, there's a million people that say 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:09.360 it and feel it the way you do. If that's 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:11.200 the way you feel it, say it like I can't 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:13.360 tell nobody how to paint, you know what I mean. 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:16.399 If that's the case, we'd have a hundred paintings in 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:19.240 the louver that all look just to like and they don't. 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:24.320 So for me, it's about appreciating how you want to 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:26.480 express your art. 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:30.359 Even then a real R and B era see it again, 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:32.720 it's with that said, is there even then a. 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:33.440 Real R and B? 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:38.560 A yes? Because we can't and which one is it? 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:43.040 It's still right because everything evolves. It's just like saying, 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:45.960 there's is there's still a real hip hop area era. Yeah, 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:50.719 it just evolves it. Sometimes it sounds different, sometimes it 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:55.440 looks different. Sometimes like before it was androgynous, Prince had 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:57.680 the ruffles and you have to they had you have 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:00.520 to look breed in order to really be R and B. 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:03.160 And now it's now it's the dreads. 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:06.720 It's almost like the center scene when you're watching of course, 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:08.480 I'm sure you've seen it, of course three times. 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:12.600 That scene shows you so much music's evolution that it 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:15.240 kind of made me appreciate it because as I grown, oh, 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:17.320 I've grown to love music. I feel like people hate 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:20.040 on my musical choices a lot, and I'm like, damn, 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:23.159 but shit just changes, you know, like we can fluctuate. 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:26.600 And I appreciate hearing you say that because I am 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:29.760 kind of tired of the new ways being the wrong one. 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:34.040 There's no there's no wrong anything. My daughter, my daughter, 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:40.160 my daughter loves oldies. How she and my daughter's seventeen. 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:42.560 Oh oh, one of my daughters I have three. She 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:47.200 she loves the oldies, but she will daddy. I need 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:53.320 a scissor ticket. I need it, period. I have to 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:58.160 have it. Yeah, I need a Tyler the Creator ticket. 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:04.720 Imagine Scott the ticket Tolliver And I'm like, cool, I'm 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:05.199 going with you. 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:06.320 I know that's right. 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:07.040 Let's go get it. 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:09.280 Who's in your mount rushmore than what do you mean? 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:10.760 In terms of R and B? 0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:16.960 Now we can pick all the time and new I I. 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:19.879 You have to, like we asked the question, you actually 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:21.360 have to give us. You can't start this out. 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:26.720 I can't do four. I can't put four people on 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:28.680 R and B. Is it fun? 0:20:30.000 --> 0:20:31.320 It's five today? 0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:34.200 You know what way to clean that up? 0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:41.600 It can spand yourself. 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:45.879 Only say where where I drew from? That's that's all 0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:46.280 I can say. 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:46.920 That's yours. 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:49.879 Give me the drew from. It's not a it's not 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:52.800 the best ever, it's it's just who I drew. 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:54.000 Yeah, we're cutting all that out. 0:20:55.240 --> 0:21:04.720 You're going to keep all of that. It's a Kelly okay, babyface. 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:06.680 Okay, I with that one. 0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:11.640 No, I fucked the first one to Marvin Gay, Okay, 0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:13.720 is there a woman that you were throwing there? 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:16.200 You don't have to do it now that I said 0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:18.560 it in R. 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:23.240 And B, Damn, he said, y'all, Ain't that good? 0:21:24.000 --> 0:21:26.679 No, no, it's it's it's not. It's not. I come 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:28.960 from church, Okay, so a lot of a lot of 0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:35.359 my influences are gospelfluences. If I was to put you 0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:42.560 know what, I take that back, Rob Babyface, Marvin Gay, 0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:43.600 this will surprise you. 0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:46.000