1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to Decisions Decisions. I don't think you should say 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: decisions decisions. It sounded like you was talking to this person. 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 2: You definitely say to welcome, Welcome to the new podcast. 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: You want to say together decisions decisions. Hey guys, girl, 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 2: welcome to another episode of Decisions Decisions. 6 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 3: You know, we got to guess some fine because we 7 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 3: were doing different ship. Let us have somebody who we 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 3: just don't care about it O. 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: Welcome back everybody. Now, this whole got the moment. I'm 10 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: your girl, man, d P, I'm weazy and it's a 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: threesome today. That's right. 12 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: We are joined by we could call them a cousin, 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: so we're not doing incests. So technically it's not that 14 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: our black fam How far my cousin removed? 15 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: All right, girl, a marriage cousin or. 16 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 4: Like distant country cousin at the cookout? Did you ain't 17 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 4: know what you right now? 18 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,639 Speaker 3: When I went to my family union, there was like, oh, 19 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 3: that's one with the white daddy, y'all. 20 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:09,919 Speaker 2: We have singer songwriter Broadway song the motherfucker Bauldy. 21 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 3: It's all required when you're a musician to wear shirts 22 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 3: like that, Like why do It's always just you gotta 23 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 3: see it a little bit, a little bumps in arms. 24 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 5: If you have it, Oh, don't come on here, even 25 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 5: the little squinty eyes. We just need you to beg 26 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 5: It's not my fault because it's looking. 27 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 4: Like no, I'm not like, I'm not trying to smolder. 28 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 3: That's when people ask you d be like, yeah, I'm 29 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 3: a tenth Asiana. 30 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 4: I wake up smoldering. You know what I mean? I 31 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 4: felt I feel like I am. 32 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 3: I think the energy though, is beautiful because like we're 33 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 3: making fun of it, but it is also the allure 34 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 3: to be a good singer. To me, it's having that 35 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 3: like sexual energy, having that natural just I don't know, 36 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 3: I don't even want to call it flirting, but it's 37 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 3: almost like the attentiveness. 38 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm not gonna lie. It's what I say. 39 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: Said is wrong with R and B today, Like they'd 40 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: be talking about like some fuck niggas ship but they're ugly, 41 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 2: like they're not attractive enough to be saying the things 42 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 2: they're saying. And I'm not saying names. I'm just saying 43 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: that to me is what is a little bit wrong 44 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: with male R and B today? Like where is the 45 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 2: fine ones at? 46 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 4: You know? What and to that, I can say it's 47 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 4: very subjective in terms of what you think is attractive. 48 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: Because back in his day he looked I think he 49 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: was girl. 50 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I'll just try to be like he was 51 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 3: a handsome man, but he wasn't because we're not allowed 52 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 3: to call people that ain't not. 53 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 4: But think about this though, it wasn't necessarily like it 54 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 4: wasn't necessarily like if they were lookers, just like you know, 55 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:52,839 Speaker 4: just without anything right, but the presentation overall, like when 56 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 4: you saw what Luther had on you, you saw what Martin, 57 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 4: what what Marvin had on when you saw the temptations 58 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 4: had on the way the way they walked it and 59 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 4: talked it. You know what I'm saying, It was like this, 60 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 4: Oh there's something there that is attractive. It doesn't necessarily 61 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 4: have to be that you are physically attractive. But let's 62 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 4: get into this word aura. Right, are your energy? You're 63 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. There are things that are 64 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 4: attractive and these things are curated. 65 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: What women do you. 66 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 3: Think have it that are like we can call it 67 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 3: out like who has that aura that's a singer and 68 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 3: entertain a period, Like who do you think has it? 69 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 3: Because to me, Alicia Wan of Alsha could wear a 70 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 3: cargo jeans and a stud fit and we like, what 71 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: it's goddess energy. 72 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: It's crazy. 73 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 4: You know what. I always refrain from from speaking on 74 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 4: women who have husbands. 75 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: I'm respectful that we don't know, as. 76 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 4: Alicia's had it since since day one? 77 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: Right, speaking of Alicia, yes, and speaking of Aura, she 78 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: brought up but I got to see you live Hell's 79 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: Kitchen on Broadway loosely based around Alicia Keys's story. And 80 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: before you said a word? Is this a normal reaction 81 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: to before you said a word? Before you did a who? 82 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 2: The aunties in the crowd was like, whoa, honey? 83 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: Was your shirt on? 84 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 2: No girl fully clothed. He walked on stage with little 85 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 2: squinty eyes and just like I did you did? 86 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 4: I the piano on stage? That did not squid my eyes. 87 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: While he was rolling the piano, he was like, and 88 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: what I say? 89 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 2: He didn't say a word, and the girls in the 90 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 2: audience was just like Then he started singing, I do 91 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: want to say, y'all. I know I've been talking about 92 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 2: going to Broadway shows. I've been gassing for weeks going 93 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 2: to coe Othello, you told us during the Black Effect 94 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 2: Fest that you were on Broadway. I had known Health's kitchen, y'all, 95 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 2: where's my camera? By far, probably be bad. I've never 96 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 2: cried on Broadway until I saw this show. 97 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 3: By the way, the girl went to see Othello day before, 98 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,559 Speaker 3: and I still it was gas in Hell's Kitchen. 99 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: No, so I said, I loved it. Let me tell 100 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: you though, real quick. 101 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 2: So when I see him at the Black Back Fest, 102 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: I said, oh, you're on Broadway, and he's like, I'm 103 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:24,799 Speaker 2: one of the best Broadway starts. 104 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: I said, you know, Denzel on it. 105 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: And so I went to see Othello, went to see 106 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: Hell's Kitchen, and y'all, I bawled four times. The I 107 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: went with al writer tempest. I went with my good friend, 108 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: uh Britt. I looked up all you here from behind 109 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 2: us in front of us, the white people stood up. 110 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 2: Hold on, white people stood up and said that was 111 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: that was magnificent. So it's not like. 112 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: And what did you say? What word did you use? 113 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: I said, that was good as fucking I'm glad we 114 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: was all crying together. 115 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: It was so good. I do want to know how 116 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: is it different? 117 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: Because I'm so glad you're here today, because you've been 118 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:06,239 Speaker 2: using them vocals. 119 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: How is it different from touring? And and have. 120 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: You acted before, Like, how has Broadway been different for 121 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 2: you than anything else you've done. 122 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 4: I've done theater before. Okay, it was traveling theater, and 123 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 4: thank god I've done that before. It kind of helped 124 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 4: prepare me for this. But Broadway is the pinnacle, you 125 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 4: know what I mean? When you get the Broadway, this 126 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 4: is what theater is, super super theater on forty four. 127 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 4: This is where you know you you are, you are 128 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 4: made or broken, and you know, the the critique is 129 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 4: a lot different, the excellence that is required a lot different. 130 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 4: The people, the talent on Broadway is different. Actor, you mean, 131 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 4: all of. 132 00:06:54,480 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 2: It's saying all of it the Broadway culture because for 133 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 2: most of us, we go to New York on a trip, 134 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 2: we go on to day ticks, We just figuring out 135 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: what we're going to see, right, But the culture of 136 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 2: the people that actually go, like what's the vibe when 137 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: you walk in the door. 138 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 4: Well, Broadway is its own its own world, right, and 139 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 4: so like our we have a og with us Keisha Lewis, 140 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 4: who's been doing Broadway for forty years, Tony Award winner. 141 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: That's the one that made she made and she was 142 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: the first one to make me cry. 143 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 4: You can tell that she is Broadway Royalty and that 144 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 4: it is not a game. 145 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: Who do you tell from? 146 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: Is it the like when people come out? Is it 147 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 3: your colleagues, like, what is the energy of Broadway Royalty? 148 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 4: What do you mean? What is it in it? Like? 149 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: Is it? 150 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 3: Basically when she goes out in the crowd, people know 151 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 3: exactly who she is. 152 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: Is it the staff? Everybody's just like whatever you want 153 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: to do? 154 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 4: Well, no, it's it's let me say, it's universal. Right 155 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 4: for the people who know Broadway, they know her, and 156 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 4: that's from you know, people who attend Broadway shows as 157 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 4: well as people who book Broadway shows, who direct Broadway shows, 158 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 4: who like, she's on the rolodex of if you can 159 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 4: get her, you get. 160 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 3: Her when it comes to like one thing I've always 161 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 3: wondered too, when you're doing Broadway, ain't no cut? 162 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, hannay video cut? 163 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no do over? 164 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 3: Do you improv? Do you forget? Like what happens? What 165 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 3: is a real moment that you've had on stage? 166 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 4: You have to be able to improv because things happen 167 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 4: in live theater, you know what I mean. And so 168 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 4: you know, we had a mishap where the piano is 169 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 4: supposed to turn in a certain way. I don't think 170 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 4: you remember the same. I don't want to give too 171 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 4: much away. 172 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: But oh I wasn't going to give the scenes away. 173 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 4: But everything malfunctioned and we still had to deliver the scene. 174 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 4: And sometimes you know, it's it's a lot of silly 175 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 4: people on Broadway time. I'm silly, like I'm a goofball 176 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 4: and a lot of our crew, a lot of our 177 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 4: cast is goofballs too, like really talented, but we're goofballs, right, 178 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 4: And when this thing malfunction and the way I had 179 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 4: to come out and try to still deliver these lines, 180 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 4: people were crying, like the cast is crying. 181 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: The audience wasn't laughing. They didn't know. They didn't know 182 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: the audience that's such a funny. 183 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 4: And the light is on me. I have to stay 184 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 4: in it. It's like it's a very serious moment, and 185 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 4: I have twelve cast members dying laughing while I'm trying. 186 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 4: And then it started out of nowhere and I have 187 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 4: to get my toes on the turn about to turn 188 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 4: with it while still like. 189 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: Y'all gotta do it Key and Pill told the actors like. 190 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: You just need to turn around, don't lag. You have 191 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 1: to turn around until you get your composure back. 192 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 2: Now, when you read the script of this, because you 193 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: play a deadbeat essentially, okay, what you do, that's he's shit, 194 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: that's what That's what my daddy says too, all these 195 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 2: years later, he's trying. When you read the script, did 196 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 2: you realize it would evoke so much emotion, because it's 197 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 2: it's essentially without giving the whole story away with what 198 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: I love is through music, through just really the character 199 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: development that happens past too. You really get to see 200 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 2: who the people are. There's a love story between young 201 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: Alicia and her mom, her first crush, then. 202 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: Her cheatten too much. 203 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 2: Well, no, no, no, it's all these different stories. I'm not 204 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: giving any scenes away. It's it's a seventeen year old 205 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 2: girl battling it was Alicia's story, yeah, battling all of 206 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: these relationships. And that's why I thought it was so 207 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 2: phenomenal because the character development between her love of New York, 208 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: her love of the people in her building, and then 209 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 2: you have all of these other relationships that take place 210 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 2: while she's learning the piano, and I'm not sure if 211 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 2: that's like the real part. However, fit in I was 212 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: just like, wow, this is magnificent. When you see the script, though, 213 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: was there anything that you had to look up or 214 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 2: any movies that inspired how you would show up as 215 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 2: a fuck nigga on stage? 216 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: Because you did it so well, you did it so well. 217 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: Did you do a different accent? Did you have pieces 218 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: that a little too good? 219 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 4: The way you said all of those eloquent things have 220 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 4: been the question that was so good? That was really 221 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 4: I like that a lot. I got sides first, and 222 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 4: so when you get sides, what is that it's the 223 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 4: piece of the script that that you're going to read 224 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 4: to audition for. Okay, So I got sides first, and 225 00:11:55,240 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 4: I was like, okay, sides only give you but so 226 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 4: much context, you know what I'm saying, instead of having 227 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 4: the full script. Right, So for me it was like, Okay, 228 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 4: I got these sides. Not even sure about doing Broadway period, 229 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 4: but it's the Alicia Keys call. I have to answer that, 230 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 4: And so I said, I said, how about we just 231 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 4: go see it first as opposed to shooting in the dark, 232 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 4: because that's what you can do a lot of times 233 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 4: when you're auditioning and you just get sides. You're shooting 234 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 4: in the dark, and you're so far away from the 235 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 4: actual thing from and what they want, like you're just 236 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 4: you're just and then your whole audition is about correction 237 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 4: rather than you know, adjusting good choices. And so I 238 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 4: went and saw it first the day before my audition. 239 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 4: I said, oh, that's what that is. Got it, And 240 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 4: you know, I didn't have to go see anything because 241 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 4: you know, you know, I unfortunately, I do have a divorce, 242 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 4: and I do have you know, I do have young 243 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 4: young ladies to my first two girls who are part 244 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 4: of that, and unfortunately you know, with them, you know, 245 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 4: living three thousand miles away and all these things that 246 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 4: you know, just over time, I have been part of 247 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 4: things where I have been a disappointment, you know, to 248 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 4: my daughters, and I've had to feel that I've had 249 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 4: to own that. So I know what that is, you know, 250 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 4: I know what that is on missing some birthdays. I 251 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 4: know what it is on missing big moments, like I 252 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 4: know what that is. I've been through it and so 253 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 4: even now still trying to you know, repair that damage 254 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 4: or do whatever I can do as a father now 255 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 4: to just be there and when moments when I wasn't, 256 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 4: that's it drew from me, you know. So it was 257 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 4: very easy to step into this step. It was I'm. 258 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: Gonna tell you, Nick Cannon could play the ship out. 259 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 4: If you want to, you. 260 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 3: Know, outside of the Broadway. Something I've always been curious about. 261 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 3: It's kind of just the pivot of entertainers as they 262 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 3: get older. When I saw the R and B money 263 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 3: was on Black Effect, I was like, wow, can you 264 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 3: tell me, Like, you start off with this life, you're 265 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 3: known for this thing, and then maybe it's not your. 266 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: Every day anymore. How what does the pivot look like? 267 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 3: You Like, when you sign up to do a podcast, 268 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 3: you're like, oh my god, I must be taking a 269 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 3: hell Like that's how everybody treats the evolution. 270 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 4: Of the next job. Like no, no, no, nobody asked 271 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 4: us to do a podcast. It was it was I 272 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 4: was like, I'm watching you know, I'm watching the terrain 273 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 4: and I'm watching Oh I'm I'm watching all of these 274 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 4: cool conversations ramp up about so many things, you know 275 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 4: what I mean, so many great personalities, and and I 276 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 4: was like, man, we need that for R and B. 277 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 4: Like for me, it was creating something out of Anita 278 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 4: all I was hot, like in terms of Tank, Yeah, 279 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 4: I'm still hot. There was no decline to make me 280 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 4: reach for something different. 281 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 2: For me, it was adding to because you think you 282 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 2: were like a part of like Aliah's career genuine and 283 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: I know you ended up having the group later with him, 284 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 2: like you've been a part of R and B since 285 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 2: Mayas was in diapers not to age. 286 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's like you've had such a long standing 287 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: career and you still do it. 288 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. But my conversation, so my point was to even 289 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 4: starting it was before anybody else gets a hold of 290 00:15:54,240 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 4: this conversation that don't know it and haven't lived it, Jay, 291 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 4: why don't we do it? 292 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 3: How do you feel then when you watch people talk 293 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 3: about music, music, podcast culture commentators, do you think it 294 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 3: is better for someone that's in it? 295 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 4: Okay, which is why you see NFL Network now high 296 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 4: players hee ESPN hiring the basketball players and the bait 297 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 4: like hiring people who actually understand what it takes to 298 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 4: do it. That's actually easy to take. 299 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, my reasoning Sometimes when people say why are show 300 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 2: over others? I'm like, yeah, y'all understand we're actually ethically 301 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 2: non monogamous girls. 302 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: We're bisexual women. 303 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 3: We've done all these things we talk about and saying 304 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 3: instead of just commenting on other people's sex lives or trends. 305 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 3: And I really love content direct from the source. Yes, okay, 306 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 3: there's my RMB question I need to ask out of 307 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 3: the new school R and B guys. So, like I'm 308 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 3: someone that listens to Minnie Riverton Luthen and Brent Bias 309 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 3: and love them all and actually might play. 310 00:16:58,240 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: Them on rotation. 311 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 3: So when it comes to new school R and B, 312 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 3: is it easy to hate on it? Or can you 313 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 3: appreciate the new art? 314 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: Who do you like? What are your thoughts about the 315 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: new vibe of R and B? 316 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 4: Like you gotta remember that I help usher that in, 317 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Trap So stuff like I 318 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 4: had I had Ato eight's and Collapse in two thousand 319 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 4: and seven and Please Don't Go, which was the number 320 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 4: one record for me for fifteen weeks I Can't and 321 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 4: the cadences you know, from me to Usher, you know 322 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 4: all the like we we helped do that, you know 323 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 4: what I mean. It's not a it's not a new genre, 324 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 4: it's just more kids are doing it more kids are 325 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 4: they They respond to it and feel it better because 326 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 4: trap is so big now and our and our and 327 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 4: our generation trap wasn't big like that. Yea, yeah, it 328 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 4: got big and kind of took over everything after that, 329 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 4: and then people are like, oh, we need more R 330 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 4: and B to sounds like drap And I'm staying there like, well. 331 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:52,959 Speaker 3: I've been here, but what about the lyrics? Do you 332 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 3: like hearing music like me and my visuals bucking? 333 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 4: You know what? I can't. I don't hate on how 334 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 4: you communicate it, you know what I'm saying because I 335 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 4: tell every artist listen, there's a million people that say 336 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 4: it and feel it the way you do. If that's 337 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 4: the way you feel it, say it like I can't 338 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 4: tell nobody how to paint, you know what I mean. 339 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 4: If that's the case, we'd have a hundred paintings in 340 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 4: the louver that all look just to like and they don't. 341 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 4: So for me, it's about appreciating how you want to 342 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 4: express your art. 343 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 3: Even then a real R and B era see it again, 344 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 3: it's with that said, is there even then a. 345 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: Real R and B? 346 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 4: A yes? Because we can't and which one is it? 347 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 4: It's still right because everything evolves. It's just like saying, 348 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 4: there's is there's still a real hip hop area era. Yeah, 349 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:50,719 Speaker 4: it just evolves it. Sometimes it sounds different, sometimes it 350 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 4: looks different. Sometimes like before it was androgynous, Prince had 351 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 4: the ruffles and you have to they had you have 352 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 4: to look breed in order to really be R and B. 353 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 4: And now it's now it's the dreads. 354 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: It's almost like the center scene when you're watching of course, 355 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've seen it, of course three times. 356 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 2: That scene shows you so much music's evolution that it 357 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 2: kind of made me appreciate it because as I grown, oh, 358 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: I've grown to love music. I feel like people hate 359 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 2: on my musical choices a lot, and I'm like, damn, 360 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 2: but shit just changes, you know, like we can fluctuate. 361 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 2: And I appreciate hearing you say that because I am 362 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 2: kind of tired of the new ways being the wrong one. 363 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 4: There's no there's no wrong anything. My daughter, my daughter, 364 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 4: my daughter loves oldies. How she and my daughter's seventeen. 365 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 4: Oh oh, one of my daughters I have three. She 366 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 4: she loves the oldies, but she will daddy. I need 367 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 4: a scissor ticket. I need it, period. I have to 368 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 4: have it. Yeah, I need a Tyler the Creator ticket. 369 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 4: Imagine Scott the ticket Tolliver And I'm like, cool, I'm 370 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 4: going with you. 371 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: I know that's right. 372 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 4: Let's go get it. 373 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: Who's in your mount rushmore than what do you mean? 374 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 4: In terms of R and B? 375 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 3: Now we can pick all the time and new I I. 376 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: You have to, like we asked the question, you actually 377 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: have to give us. You can't start this out. 378 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 4: I can't do four. I can't put four people on 379 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 4: R and B. Is it fun? 380 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: It's five today? 381 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 4: You know what way to clean that up? 382 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: It can spand yourself. 383 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 4: Only say where where I drew from? That's that's all 384 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 4: I can say. 385 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: That's yours. 386 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 4: Give me the drew from. It's not a it's not 387 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 4: the best ever, it's it's just who I drew. 388 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're cutting all that out. 389 00:20:55,240 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 4: You're going to keep all of that. It's a Kelly okay, babyface. 390 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: Okay, I with that one. 391 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 2: No, I fucked the first one to Marvin Gay, Okay, 392 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 2: is there a woman that you were throwing there? 393 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 3: You don't have to do it now that I said 394 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 3: it in R. 395 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: And B, Damn, he said, y'all, Ain't that good? 396 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 4: No, no, it's it's it's not. It's not. I come 397 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 4: from church, Okay, so a lot of a lot of 398 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 4: my influences are gospelfluences. If I was to put you 399 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 4: know what, I take that back, Rob Babyface, Marvin Gay, 400 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 4: this will surprise you. 401 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Oh no, that doesn't surprise me. 402 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: Let's just say take believes in separating the art from 403 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 2: the artists. 404 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 4: I think I think that well because you gotta you know, 405 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 4: in our in ours day, he was dependacle. The way 406 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 4: he is doing it was I mean, he was top 407 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,959 Speaker 4: of the food chain. And even it wasn't just the music, 408 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 4: it was the presentation, like when you go back to 409 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 4: Downlaw and and and to separate those two songs from 410 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 4: the remix to the and then add mister Biggs to 411 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 4: it in the cinema and like he made it. He 412 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 4: made it a movie. Nobody like outside of Michael Jackson 413 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 4: who had done that for R and B. Like in 414 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 4: the streets. Babyface was an artist that as a as 415 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 4: a little kid, only singing gospel. When the girls would 416 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 4: ask me to sing a song instead of singing what 417 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 4: a friend we have in Jesus, I could sing a 418 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 4: Babyface song because you know, because these were nice, good songs, 419 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 4: good R and B songs, and that taught me how 420 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 4: to write without all the extras. 421 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 5: But I'll taught me how to write like your extra cut. No no, 422 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 5: no no, yeah, I mean now the extras are great, 423 00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 5: but I learned from Babyface how how to not even 424 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 5: need that? 425 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 3: What if you had to choose out of these, like 426 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 3: you know, you're Mount Rushmore, what is the perfect R 427 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 3: and B track or artists for baby making music? 428 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 1: Because today I'm fucking to. 429 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 3: Naomi Sharon a little bit of Brent actually Tari's being 430 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 3: coming in and out of there sometimes too, But for 431 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 3: a beautiful, intimate, romantic moment, it's really not the Brint 432 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 3: or the Naomi. 433 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: Who would it be? 434 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 3: What is who is the artist that guaranteed panties off? 435 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 3: The fellas need this one because I don't know what 436 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 3: the fuck the niggas be putting on. 437 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta. It depends on the woman. 438 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's. 439 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 4: Because because because women, you know, women are different now, 440 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Women? You see you see 441 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 4: more women under than trap post like, so it's it's 442 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 4: like it depends on the woman and what she owned, 443 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 4: if she in that intimate moments, she want to smoke 444 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 4: some weed and get some Hennessy in her body and 445 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 4: get tossed around, or or if she you know, or 446 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 4: if she wants some nice shot a plan and she 447 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 4: really wants somebody look deep into her eyes. You know 448 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Oh my god, Like it really depends 449 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 4: on like because it's about listening, right, And so you 450 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 4: have to number one, be curious and and ask questions 451 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 4: because no one way works for everything, not in this space. 452 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Women, every woman is absolutely different. 453 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 3: You sound like about all of them. 454 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: They're all like something different had the day they do. 455 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 4: You go, I see, I'm in my day. I had 456 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 4: nothing I'm having. 457 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: I want to I want to get away from music 458 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: for a little bit. 459 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 2: But still digging into one of my favorite records from you. 460 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 2: I made a game from When We which I love 461 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 2: in the remix. 462 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: The remix is the one. God damn it. When they 463 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: say what remix is better liked? I think you made 464 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: like three. There's a lot of remixes you tried. 465 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: Oh my gone, no, they went bananas. If you have 466 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 2: not heard that record one of my favorites. So I 467 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 2: made an ice record to get you to talk a 468 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 2: little bit, sex, little relationship, a little all the things. 469 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: So this one's gonna be fun. 470 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 2: When we bring food into the bedroom to spice things up, 471 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 2: I always suggest you're going to finish the blank So 472 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 2: it's a bunch of win wei's and I want. 473 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 4: To see what you be doing when we bring food 474 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 4: into the bedroom. 475 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: Have you never brought anything into the bedroom? 476 00:25:55,359 --> 00:26:03,479 Speaker 4: I've tried. And when we say food, the same food, 477 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 4: I'll say ice. That's it. 478 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: Ice, That's what I'm almost. 479 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 4: That's the furthest we're going with food, really absolute, Wait. 480 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: Why as food failed, you went and play with food? 481 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 4: You way food like the idea of getting sticky. 482 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: Okay, and I'm not mad. 483 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 4: You gotta wipe that down, he said ice. 484 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: He said, we're not making a mess. Nowhere would I go. 485 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 4: Again? It depends. I mean the ice can go on 486 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 4: to the ice can go in. 487 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 1: Here. That's all he wanted to hear you saying. 488 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 2: Now now here the interesting one into relationships. 489 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: When we argue, it's. 490 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 4: Usually because of miscommunication. 491 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 2: Okay, period, valid. I don't think we have to go 492 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 2: deeper into that. Now here's the fun one. 493 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: When we role play, I always request to. 494 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 4: Be now I'm just making some ship up you've never. 495 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 2: Played before, or what would you like your partner to 496 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 2: dress up as? Like, has there ever been a scenario 497 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 2: where we're like, let's just have fun tonight, let's roll 498 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 2: play something. 499 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 1: This outfit could be role play. You want to know 500 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: what it would be? Okay, all you gotta do is 501 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: pull the beanie. 502 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 4: Down you robbing all them banks and see if you 503 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 4: can't steal. 504 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: Ship. 505 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 3: Wait, can't let me tell you if you wasn't going 506 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 3: to play tonight, I would have invited you. So I'm 507 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 3: going to quest loft to this game night in New York. 508 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 4: Right. 509 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 3: He was like, Oh, I know how much you love 510 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 3: Sinners Ryan Coolers be there. Please don't say it, because 511 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 3: I'm saying it every day. I'm like, please, Lord, don't 512 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 3: let me get one to kill him play. 513 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 2: You know what? 514 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: This stated? 515 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 4: Oh? 516 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: I know, and I don't care. I don't give a ship. 517 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be like, thank you so much. 518 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 4: But you know what, and the thing about that, like 519 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 4: with with with the role play and things like that, 520 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 4: I'm so still aroused and amused by the simple things, 521 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like like, you know, like 522 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 4: my wife having on a a T shirt that just 523 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 4: just slightly shows the butchet's just a little bit and 524 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 4: slightly shows the panty and the print up front like that. 525 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 4: That's like, that's that's all I need. Like all like 526 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 4: that easy, my wife, Ladies, you need something absolutely like 527 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 4: she don't have to do a bunch of a bunch 528 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 4: of extra anything. Now listen, I welcome it, for sure, 529 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 4: but I don't require it. I am that much, you know, 530 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 4: ready and available for just the thought of it. Okay, 531 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 4: you're gonna walk around but. 532 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 3: That have like a lot of money or affluent or 533 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 3: can get any woman say these things that it's simplicity, 534 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 3: like you ain't even got to do too much. 535 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 4: No, I don't. I find that people with more access 536 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 4: get bore quickly, you know what I mean, and they 537 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 4: have to find other ways, more ways to be stimulated. 538 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 2: I think right now a lot of us actually do, 539 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 2: whether you have money or not, because you can literally 540 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 2: open up your Twitter app or open up the Internet 541 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 2: and it's all right there, all right there. 542 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: Now, I want to role play with you just a 543 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: little bit. The last question. 544 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 2: When we're in public, and I whisper in your ear, 545 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 2: I'm telling you finish and I want you to whisper 546 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 2: it so the audience can hear you. 547 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 3: I want to devour oh fe on the bank, train, 548 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 3: the animus and ship. 549 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 2: Okay, we love a big word, and so devour is 550 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: not a big word. 551 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: Girl. Somebody could say, eat Mandy, I will take devow. 552 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 4: What you're doing. 553 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 3: Devour my flower, Devour my fly. 554 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 4: There you have there, there you have it. 555 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: Devour my flower. Now I do. 556 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 2: It wouldn't be us if we had this whole conversation 557 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 2: with you and didn't bring up some of the things 558 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 2: you've said out in public. But before we get there, 559 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 2: we have our book, No Holds Barred, a dual manifesto 560 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 2: of sexual exploration and power coming out. And I wanted 561 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 2: to read a little excerpt from my chapter. Can I 562 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 2: put it back there? This is my chapter around my 563 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 2: sexual views on the anus, and this is just the 564 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 2: few first sentences when I first started fucking. I believe 565 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 2: that if a man wanted to put it in my 566 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 2: ass that he was gay, period, point blank. You could 567 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 2: not tell me otherwise. My Rajanelle was that if I 568 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 2: had this glorious pussy, and I do that there was 569 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 2: no reason he should want to put it in the 570 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 2: back door. To me, when it came to heterosexual sex, 571 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: there were only two acceptable orphices, my vagina and my mouth. 572 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 2: I thought of anal sex is something that only gay 573 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 2: men did, and looking back, I attribute this blatant misconception 574 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 2: to many things, including my youth, lack of sexual education, 575 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 2: and let out ignorance. 576 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: Now, this chapter goes from my views on. 577 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 2: Me receiving anal sex and then me ben and men 578 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 2: over with a strap. So I had two views on 579 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 2: just anal sex is a pleasurable. 580 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: Spot for people. 581 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 2: Now, this chapter, for me, vividly speaks about just where 582 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 2: we are taught a lot of ignorance in terms of 583 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,239 Speaker 2: loving ourselves, pleasing ourselves, what it looks like to communicate that, 584 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 2: and specifically within the black community stemming from homophobia. 585 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: Now, you've said some things across the internet where people 586 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: were like what the fuck. 587 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 588 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 2: One is that you admitted that you like your legs 589 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 2: being raised during oral sex, which we find to be 590 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 2: very vanilla, very easy, like you just like to be comfortable, 591 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 2: you know. The other one is I think if a 592 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 2: guy suckstick twice, he's not gay. Now I would like 593 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 2: to know how you became so confident and comfortable and 594 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 2: not only speaking about sex publicly, but what that looks 595 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 2: like with your partners and how you're navigating teaching black 596 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 2: men specifically to not be shamed and unlearned the unhealthy 597 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 2: things we've learned about sex. 598 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 4: I think it's more about you know, being open to conversations, okay, right, 599 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 4: and listening to people of other lifestyles, of other whatever 600 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 4: that for you may not make sense, but to discredit 601 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 4: or downgrade their existence, it's not fair within that. And 602 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 4: so you know, me coming from where I come from, 603 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 4: you know, I come from heavy homophobia, okay, heavy Like 604 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 4: it took me a long time to assimulate to the 605 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 4: quote unquote Hollywood environment because you know, I'm kid from Maryland, 606 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, and from the church and 607 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 4: all of these things, and so where a lot of 608 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 4: these things are are are like frowned upon in a sense. 609 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 4: Now you come to Hollywood and you know, homosexuality it's prevalent, right, 610 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 4: And for me, it was very uncomfortable in the beginning. 611 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 4: My stylist is is a gay man. I study you 612 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 4: know this, this person here is and I'm like, I'm. 613 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: Like, at least have you got a good stylist. 614 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't. I don't like, like, you know 615 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, I don't. I don't. I don't like 616 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 4: the way looking at what I'm putting these clothes on. 617 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 4: I don't like. And it's all in my mind. I'm 618 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 4: assuming all of these things and it's not until I'll 619 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 4: tell you what happened. I signed Young Lady. She was like, 620 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 4: she was an openly gay rapper Messiah. 621 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 2: Oh, she was on the TV show. 622 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 4: Yes. I signed her, and I signed her because I 623 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 4: thought I thought she was well she is. I thought 624 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 4: she was the most incredibly talented human being from singing, songwriting. 625 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 4: I thought she was like a drake. I was like, 626 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 4: you're dope. I don't know what all's going on with you. 627 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 4: I don't understand anything that's going on with you, but 628 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 4: you're dope. And I signed her and she needed a 629 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 4: place to stay, and I was like, you know, you 630 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 4: can stay with me, and I really I started asking 631 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 4: her questions. 632 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: About her sexuality. She's a woman, yes, and it's easier 633 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: for you to do that with a woman versus a man. 634 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 4: That was just the opportunity that presented itself. And I 635 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 4: just started asking her questions and I'm like, well, how 636 00:34:55,239 --> 00:35:01,280 Speaker 4: and why? And as opposed to just you know, trying 637 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 4: to make my belief stick, what kind of questions? 638 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, would you ask? 639 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 4: Well? The first was why? 640 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: Why? 641 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 4: Why are you gay? 642 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 3: I say I had that reaction because for someone that's 643 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 3: so open about gayness, I feel like, the why is 644 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 3: any easy one? 645 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: Like because I like it this way. 646 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 4: Now it's easy, I understand it. And I'm like, I'm like, 647 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 4: why are you gay? Like why? How? 648 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: Like? 649 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 4: Maybe we'll mix them together? And she was like, I 650 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 4: was ever since I can remember desiring anything, I desired 651 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 4: a woman. Okay, I said, interesting, I says you you 652 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 4: you're telling me you were born this way? She said, 653 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 4: I was absolutely born this way. And I had to 654 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 4: take that into consideration outside of all the things I 655 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 4: had been taught into spirit you can pray it out, 656 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,760 Speaker 4: it's nothing but the devil and all of these things 657 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 4: that I had been taught. And I had to look 658 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 4: at this woman who was honestly telling me, as long 659 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 4: as I can remember, I've only wanted a woman, and 660 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 4: to this day, I've never wanted a man. 661 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 3: I was like, you know, what's interesting to hear a 662 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 3: man say? And I I liked hearing you say it. 663 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 2: This way because I've described this to men, like when 664 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 2: you're confused, think about innately how you want women. 665 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 3: That is literally how my gay friends view it. Is 666 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 3: like I wake up, I feel this, I embody this. 667 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 3: It's the same thing, yes, And then we're trying to 668 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 3: convince you. Imagine me trying to tell you loving your 669 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 3: wife is bad. Now, that could be an extremity in this, 670 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 3: but when it comes to sexuality, Oh. 671 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,280 Speaker 4: It's not the extreme. It's what it's You're right. 672 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 1: Okay, you're right, loving your wife would be bad, right. 673 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 4: For because that's how strongly we believe yep, that how 674 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 4: we help. That's as strongly we believe against that. Yeah, 675 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 4: it's the same thing reversed. And so like you know, 676 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 4: one of my good friends style is Brian Javar, And 677 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh. 678 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: And then you started asking him the same question. 679 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,879 Speaker 4: Well, just you know, just even us in in in 680 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 4: being friends, right, you know what I'm saying, Like I 681 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 4: kindle and that's being friends. And it's like you realize 682 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 4: that who you are is who you are, right and 683 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 4: just because that's your friend or just because you know 684 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 4: y'all hang out on the case, doesn't mean that you're 685 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 4: that yeah, doesn't mean that this becomes you. And so 686 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 4: a lot of times with men, you know, especially you know, 687 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 4: but when we were in that hyper masculine space, we 688 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,280 Speaker 4: don't want nothing around us that's going to chip away 689 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 4: at that masculinity. We don't want nobody associated with us 690 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 4: that's gonna chip away at that masculinity. And that, to 691 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 4: me is an insecurity. 692 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 3: How did you go from that brain to being a guy? 693 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 3: I remember the day you said it. I was smiling, 694 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 3: laugh I'm like. 695 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 4: This, I just you gotta stop worrying about what everybody 696 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 4: else thinks. 697 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: Because you still believe that today. What is that dick twice? 698 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 4: And I well, how comes twice? I know that? And 699 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 4: when when the number was put on it, that was all. 700 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,800 Speaker 4: But I do know that again, in speaking with with 701 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 4: people who are gay, they are actually gay. It's not 702 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 4: it wasn't an experiment once in high school or an 703 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 4: experiment once in college, and then they actually found them 704 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 4: their true selves and now they exist in whatever way 705 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 4: that is. No, it's no, this is what I am 706 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 4: and this is how I'm living. This is my life. 707 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 4: I kind of stopped saying lifestyle, right, this is my life. 708 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 4: I am. I am gay that's what they're saying. And 709 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,240 Speaker 4: so I think that there's a great difference between people 710 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 4: who have tried things and people who are things. That 711 00:38:59,400 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 4: was my point. 712 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: I like to a lifestyle word, just take that. 713 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 4: Out of context because it's the internet. The internet, and 714 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 4: then it went from a story about somebody to me, 715 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 4: and that's the ignorance of social media. But I don't 716 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,720 Speaker 4: you know, again, none of that bothers. 717 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: You know. I never thought it was you. 718 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 3: But one thing I did think when I saw it 719 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 3: was something I say often. 720 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,800 Speaker 1: This is a memory that will stick out to me forever. 721 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: Although gay, I grew up in the South, I know 722 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: how we think of men that are gay. I used 723 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,919 Speaker 1: to even sometimes have that language. When I was young. 724 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 3: I never believed niggas could be by you know, I 725 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 3: was one of them. Girl, Like, now once you do it. 726 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 1: You gay. 727 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 3: Go to Europe with my best friend. He's on a 728 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 3: date with a dude in Rome. He's like, girl, this 729 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 3: place is lit, come meet us. I show up to 730 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 3: the bar and the guy was like, oh my god, 731 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 3: there's Italian dude. He's like, he didn't tell your friend 732 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 3: looked like this, mind you They was kissing. 733 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: He's like, I want to fuck to both of you. 734 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: So I'm laughing because I was a movie. Oh it 735 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: felt like a movie. We're in Europe. 736 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,320 Speaker 3: I'm twenty one and we're on this boat in Italy 737 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 3: and my friend is like, I really don't want to 738 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 3: fuck you, but he's fine, I want to fuck it too, 739 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 3: but now you. 740 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: A can like I ain't got a choice. 741 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 3: And this guy back and forth all night is touching 742 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 3: both of us, so into us and I went home. 743 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: Called my mom. 744 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 2: The next day, I was like, Wow, Europe and men 745 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 2: have the freedom to be gay. I didn't say they're 746 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 2: really by there are exploring sexuality, but they actually can 747 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 2: do this. 748 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: I believed it. 749 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 3: I believed men could be by From that day I 750 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 3: watched this guy the way he was attracted back and forth, 751 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 3: and it made me sad because I know black men 752 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 3: don't have that. 753 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: What black men where I'm gonna pull up and that 754 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: could happen where. 755 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,879 Speaker 4: In La Well, I don't think it's I don't think 756 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 4: it's dedicated to black men, right, you think it's. 757 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 2: An American thing, because I do feel like it might be. 758 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 3: I think white people can play around a little bit. 759 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,479 Speaker 3: I don't think black men can. I think black women 760 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 3: can play around, but. 761 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 4: It also like it also has a lot of history 762 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 4: reconnected to it when it comes to black men, right, 763 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 4: I don't it's not just reserved for black men, but 764 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 4: when you think about the history of black men in 765 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 4: America specifically, and and the methods that were used to 766 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 4: make to e masculate and make us less than that's 767 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 4: where it gets kind of triggering for black men. But 768 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 4: you know, ultimately, I think and just believe that you're 769 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 4: you're gonna be what you are, and in terms of 770 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 4: finding people who are like you or or or or 771 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 4: are into the things that you're into, you just have 772 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,839 Speaker 4: to be patient and in figuring out who and where 773 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 4: those people are. 774 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 1: That's a good point. Finding your tribe is all that 775 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: matter is. 776 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 4: Somebody, and that's really all that matters. You know. I 777 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 4: was I was sitting on the plane next to a 778 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 4: young guy football player and he was like, you know, 779 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,320 Speaker 4: how do I manage all of this? He's got the money. 780 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 4: You know, he's he's on TV. You know what I'm saying. 781 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 4: They all own them, you know what I'm saying. He's like, 782 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,839 Speaker 4: I'm a I'm a young you know, I grew up 783 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 4: in the church. I think I know what's right, and 784 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 4: I'm just what what do I do? And I said, 785 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 4: and I said, I said, young fella, good luck, fuck luck, 786 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 4: young rich fella. Do it how you would like to 787 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 4: do it, Like honestly and unapologetically do it how you 788 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 4: would like to do it, and make sure that the 789 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:38,919 Speaker 4: people within this space, all who are involved, understand what 790 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 4: that is. I was like, be honest, be honest with yourself, 791 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 4: and be honest with the person or the people around you, 792 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 4: and live it exactly how you want to live it 793 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 4: and judge from there. Decide from there like what works 794 00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 4: and what doesn't work. But while you're young, and while 795 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:05,720 Speaker 4: you have options, do what you would like to do. 796 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 4: Don't hurt nobody, you know what I mean, But do 797 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 4: what you want to do. 798 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,879 Speaker 1: He basically said, put a condom on a fuck them all. 799 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 2: I cannot wait to put violent strings behind you, saying 800 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,760 Speaker 2: that that was so beautiful. 801 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 4: You to do, because it's because. 802 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 1: Not what everyone thinks that you would be feeling. 803 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,240 Speaker 4: You should do, or you know, because there's so many 804 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 4: influences and so many traditions that can lead you into 805 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 4: a space that you don't belong in. 806 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:32,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, how long did it take? 807 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 2: You to figure that out and to get in a 808 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,359 Speaker 2: space where you're at now. 809 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,879 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm forty nine, so even at forty nine, 810 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 4: I'm still evolving, learning and growing. 811 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 3: I only didn't make the shock face because I googled it. 812 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:51,360 Speaker 4: So so you know, even a lot of the ideas 813 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 4: that I speak of now are are years old. You 814 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 4: know what I mean, because you know, still learning, still evolving, 815 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 4: and and still still growing into a space where everything 816 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 4: for me is grace. 817 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 1: I love that now for decisions decisions. 818 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 2: Yes, we get into relationships though, and I want to 819 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 2: talk to you and hopefully our audience can take some 820 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 2: tips from you as well on how to find love again. 821 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 1: Now. 822 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 2: I talked about double backing and we kind of made 823 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 2: the synopsis here that it doesn't work. Once you lose somebody, 824 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 2: you shouldn't go back and xyz elemental P. However, you 825 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 2: took a break from your wife and fiance wife, y'all 826 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 2: have been together for the spand of like twenty years altogether, 827 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 2: but y'all took about six years of a break you 828 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 2: co parented. I want to know what it looked like 829 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 2: for you to take that space and find your way 830 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 2: back and how you. 831 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 4: Got back you know what I wish. I wish that 832 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 4: I had the science on it right, Okay, because we 833 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,800 Speaker 4: didn't actually get together. We hadn't known each other for 834 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 4: she danced on my first video. We hadn't known each other, 835 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 4: you know, kind of offing on, messing or whatever, messing around. 836 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 4: We didn't get together until like two thousand and four, 837 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:22,359 Speaker 4: broke up in like two thousand and six, then had 838 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 4: a baby in two thousand and seven. And during all 839 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,840 Speaker 4: this time there was you know, there's a lot of beef, 840 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I don't like you. You know, 841 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 4: maybe you don't like me a little bit, but I 842 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:40,919 Speaker 4: really don't like you. And she was moving on doing anything. 843 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 4: I was moving on doing my thing, what have you. 844 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 4: And in the midst of a breakup, you know, we're 845 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:51,800 Speaker 4: still cold parenting cool people's. She was always super solid 846 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 4: as a as a mom, okay, super solid to co 847 00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 4: parent with, like just rolled with roll with all punches, 848 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 4: and not all the punches were fair, but she rolled 849 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 4: with them, you know what I mean, super solid. And 850 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 4: after a breakup, we just started we started talking more, 851 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And just because it's like 852 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:28,800 Speaker 4: the second time around, like those conversations communications are easier. Okay, 853 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,439 Speaker 4: you're not hiding as much anymore, Like you didn't sing 854 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,920 Speaker 4: the worst of it. Now the conversations are really on, 855 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 4: like well this is how I feel, and well this 856 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 4: is how I feel, and you're able to have those 857 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 4: conversations and nobody takes it away, doesn't feel a way, 858 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 4: And so we were able to communicate what I feel 859 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:53,959 Speaker 4: like at a higher level on this re entry, which 860 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 4: just which just felt weird to me because in my mind, 861 00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 4: I was like, I'll never ever in a million years 862 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 4: be with this woman and the same and and and 863 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, we're having these high level 864 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 4: conversations about friendship and life, and you know, they were like, 865 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 4: we want to go to the movies. 866 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,719 Speaker 3: Maybe it's because the romance is taken out. Do you 867 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 3: think there's I know you don't have the science, but 868 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,880 Speaker 3: I have heard people say when the pressure is gone, 869 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 3: they can have this resurgence of romance. 870 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 4: I think it was. I think it was. It wasn't 871 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 4: romance at first, it was like we truly became friendship. Friendship. 872 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,800 Speaker 1: What did it looks like? Like? How did you forgive 873 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 1: someone that you literally said at one point. 874 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 4: I like her at all Forgiveness is about accountability on 875 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:49,840 Speaker 4: whose end listen, okay, listen. Forgiveness is about looking in 876 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 4: the mirror as a as a person who is not 877 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 4: trying to forgive, and saying to the person in the mirror, 878 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 4: he without sin cast the first like you got caught. 879 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 4: I didn't, but we being real, I was do that. 880 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 1: M hmm. 881 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 4: If we being real, I was old that universe had 882 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:33,839 Speaker 4: to get I got to eat that. Oh for being real. 883 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,919 Speaker 1: And you knew how you showed up and the ship 884 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,240 Speaker 1: that you had done. 885 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 4: I knew what was in the dark, even if she 886 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:47,279 Speaker 4: didn't know. And and and and men are really good 887 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 4: at that. How dare you? How dare you text that? Dude? 888 00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 4: How dare you respond to that? Dam? M hm? 889 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,040 Speaker 1: Do you know? Oh, we can't wait? 890 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 2: Get my notepas and you just basically are like, I 891 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 2: know what the hell I'm doing? 892 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,960 Speaker 4: We gotta we gotta, we gotta be real and the 893 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,759 Speaker 4: in me and me looking myself in the mirror and 894 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,480 Speaker 4: tell them and being truthful about who I am and 895 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 4: what I was was Was's how I was able to 896 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:28,320 Speaker 4: be like you know what, I'm not perfect, She's not perfect. 897 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,320 Speaker 1: The mean thing that caused a riff. 898 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:33,719 Speaker 4: Somewhat somewhat Yeah? 899 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,360 Speaker 1: Is it just for women listening? 900 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 3: I made a joke you know when I was like, oh, 901 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,440 Speaker 3: you know this is hohost shit earlier whatever? Is it 902 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:45,799 Speaker 3: almost inevitable with someone in entertainment because of the options? 903 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 3: Is it almost inevitably inevitable because it's like it's being 904 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 3: thrown at you at your lifestyle the character of tank 905 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:53,319 Speaker 3: versus who you are at home? 906 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 1: Like, is it is it hard to avoid? 907 00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 4: It? Is that it is also inevitable in your youth? Right? 908 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,680 Speaker 1: Well? You consider like, so when do they stop? Tell 909 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 1: you women, for the most. 910 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,759 Speaker 4: Part, when you're young. When you're young, I'm gonna say 911 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 4: for women and men, women get horny as motherfucker. 912 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,719 Speaker 1: Too, and they don't know. We was host most of 913 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:12,320 Speaker 1: my friends. 914 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:17,759 Speaker 4: Cheek listen when you're young and hot and bothered and 915 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 4: won't it should happens? Should happen? 916 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,719 Speaker 3: What age do you think there's a shift for men though, 917 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 3: when they like, hey, having it too? 918 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,720 Speaker 4: Not even there now? If they got these pills out. 919 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:38,080 Speaker 4: You know, I got a new line. Uh uh stiff 920 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 4: bull bang bang tea. We will get to all of that. Yeah, 921 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:41,399 Speaker 4: you have a new line. 922 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 3: I've been trying to dilute my man's mocker root, Like 923 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:45,400 Speaker 3: I know how horny is. 924 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:50,400 Speaker 4: Listen you, that's funny. I think that again a lot 925 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,360 Speaker 4: of times I say everything is based on the individual 926 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,319 Speaker 4: and and and the experience it is. It is like, 927 00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:00,319 Speaker 4: no nobody can make you do anything, like like, yep, 928 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,799 Speaker 4: no situation can make you do anything. It has to 929 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 4: be for you. You know what I'm saying. If you're going 930 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 4: to be solid and faithful or if you're not, it's 931 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:10,279 Speaker 4: it's on you. 932 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,879 Speaker 2: I literally say that if there's not gun to head, 933 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 2: you have the wherewithal to make the decisions. It's to leave, 934 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,560 Speaker 2: to walk away, to stay, to put up with it, 935 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,800 Speaker 2: to tell your friends and not tell your friends. 936 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 3: But I do think it could be harder with men 937 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,920 Speaker 3: and entertainment not giving men slack. But for example, if 938 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,279 Speaker 3: I'm on a diet, it's easy if I ain't got 939 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,520 Speaker 3: no crazy food in the house. Now when I'm going 940 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 3: out to restaurants and choosing not to eat, it's like, 941 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:34,839 Speaker 3: right now we're not drinking. I'm not drinking because I'm 942 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 3: trying to cut and lean out. Right, Oh why am 943 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:39,960 Speaker 3: I going to parties like it's. 944 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,799 Speaker 1: The met weekend? Like Monday we got I'm like, bro, 945 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:43,800 Speaker 1: this is tough. 946 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,000 Speaker 4: And it's tougher in the environment. 947 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 1: Now if I'm home, I'm going breaking up at a 948 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 1: certain time. 949 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:47,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 950 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:53,320 Speaker 3: So I can't imagine pussy and the best pussy, different 951 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,879 Speaker 3: colored pussies, different kinds, flavors and shit. 952 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:56,480 Speaker 4: It's crazy. 953 00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 2: I know when we talk we lean into like the 954 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,520 Speaker 2: entertainer of it all. But growing up in Orlando, if 955 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,960 Speaker 2: you're in small cities, there's men that have a plethora 956 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 2: of options in even Middle America, small cities, Like, it's 957 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 2: not just status, it's not just power. 958 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 1: A lot of men have a lot of options a 959 00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,640 Speaker 1: lot of times in their own listen. 960 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,280 Speaker 4: And it's cast in the hood. 961 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,320 Speaker 1: They got the full. 962 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:27,040 Speaker 2: There's there's options and they but they don't have they 963 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:28,320 Speaker 2: have options, they don't have discernment. 964 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:29,760 Speaker 1: That's the problem. 965 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:31,760 Speaker 4: Are they just the means are just different. 966 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,799 Speaker 3: I mean we're only as good as our options. That's 967 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,600 Speaker 3: the truth of it all. Like you can have a 968 00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,480 Speaker 3: funny looking nigga, tell me he's good to his wife. 969 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,400 Speaker 3: I bet you are, Bet you are. You can have 970 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 3: a wealthy man tell me that it's hard, and I 971 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 3: bet it is. Like I really do believe It's our options. 972 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,839 Speaker 3: It's why certain people act certain ways. What we're like, 973 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 3: we're a product of those options, having a roster, a 974 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 3: plethoro of people falling at you. It's celebrity status too 975 00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,879 Speaker 3: as well. Even if you're not attractive, people just want 976 00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 3: to fucking around you. We've all been around that person 977 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 3: that's super famous and we're like, damn, you know what, 978 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:06,560 Speaker 3: I'm like, what the fuck? 979 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,960 Speaker 2: And especially right you're just like, I know I'm mean, 980 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,680 Speaker 2: but what the fuck? How does this person do it? 981 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,319 Speaker 2: I want to ask you before we get out of here. 982 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:17,160 Speaker 2: We haven't dove into the episode just yet, but being 983 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,520 Speaker 2: that you communicate, you've unlearned some things, you're open to 984 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 2: learning more things within your relationship. 985 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 1: What do your boundaries look like? 986 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,359 Speaker 2: We've been talking about boundaries, compromise versus sacrifice and all 987 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,160 Speaker 2: these things. Do you have a boundary that you've set 988 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,399 Speaker 2: forth that you won't cross or what does it look 989 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:35,800 Speaker 2: like to compromise with your partner? 990 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:37,520 Speaker 1: What does that kind of entail? 991 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:43,480 Speaker 4: I mean, we we we really communicate about everything everything. 992 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 4: Like my wife is one of those women that'll say 993 00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:53,799 Speaker 4: anything okay, Like she'll say it and then that oh yeah, 994 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 4: I shouldn't said it like that, like she's she's that person. Absolutely, 995 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 4: it's spice, is it? Because I'm non reactive? 996 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,160 Speaker 1: We see how long you take to answer question? 997 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 4: You know how you like you have a your Wow, 998 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,560 Speaker 4: I just writing the big dogs and things like this, 999 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:17,359 Speaker 4: that's you. That's how So you know me. I'm just 1000 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 4: about you know, I'm just about respect and appreciation because 1001 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:29,439 Speaker 4: I'm getting out in the field and I'm going to 1002 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 4: make sure that your feet don't touch the ground. Just 1003 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:38,480 Speaker 4: respect and appreciate that, Okay, And that's it. I'm I'm 1004 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,400 Speaker 4: when they say men are simple creatures, they're talking about 1005 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:49,160 Speaker 4: me like food, food, water, power, you got you gotta 1006 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 4: give me the flowers, uh, food, sex, and and and 1007 00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,080 Speaker 4: and occasionally letting me know that I'm doing a good job. 1008 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 1: Oh affirmation okay? And how many years have you move 1009 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:05,959 Speaker 1: with your wife? 1010 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,319 Speaker 4: We have we're going on seven years of marriage this year. 1011 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,200 Speaker 3: So when we sat down with Envy DJ Envy and 1012 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:17,360 Speaker 3: his wife, Yeah, I asked, at what point do you 1013 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:21,000 Speaker 3: just stop fighting and or what point does it just 1014 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,360 Speaker 3: get easier? Do you feel that you've even reached it 1015 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,840 Speaker 3: seven years that it's just seamless, that it's just easy 1016 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:27,839 Speaker 3: that you know each other better, has that hit? 1017 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, we know each other very well. But you know, 1018 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,640 Speaker 4: spice just is what it is. It's just it's just 1019 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:35,880 Speaker 4: organically spicy. 1020 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:37,239 Speaker 1: Do you like a little toxic? Do you? 1021 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,000 Speaker 4: And my wife is going to find some spice to 1022 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,400 Speaker 4: throw to start the dash. 1023 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:44,880 Speaker 1: Of at front? 1024 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:50,920 Speaker 4: Is this liberal woman will figure out some spice. I'm 1025 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 4: a capricorn, Oh, Jane Janeuay first, damn? Yeah, yeah, I have. 1026 00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:01,080 Speaker 3: A holiday birthday too. I'm curious when is your birthday? 1027 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,440 Speaker 3: You'd be like, like, is it annoying that everybody's come 1028 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:04,120 Speaker 3: over on your birthday? 1029 00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:05,719 Speaker 1: Do you just celebrated? Is it New York? 1030 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,920 Speaker 4: It annoyed me as a kid because they would group 1031 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:14,200 Speaker 4: my birthday gifts for my Christmas gift. It's still got. 1032 00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:20,719 Speaker 2: You got your birthday gifts on Christmas. 1033 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,880 Speaker 4: I don't do that to my son because because his 1034 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:24,839 Speaker 4: birthday January first? 1035 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:26,799 Speaker 1: What the wow? 1036 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, see she she had a she had a 1037 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,839 Speaker 4: baby on my birthday. That's how she got the job. 1038 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:34,839 Speaker 1: Was that her due date? 1039 00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,080 Speaker 4: That was her January first? 1040 00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:38,120 Speaker 1: That is so weird. 1041 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,880 Speaker 4: And I said, I said, listen, I got you. Don't 1042 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,120 Speaker 4: roll with me. Give me a baby as a gift 1043 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:49,560 Speaker 4: you good, that's good for life's special. But yeah, so, 1044 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,759 Speaker 4: I mean, but she's spisy. She can't help herself, like 1045 00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,520 Speaker 4: it's not like she can control it, like she's she's 1046 00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,279 Speaker 4: just swixy. And then don't let you know you know 1047 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,000 Speaker 4: how how you know your hormones get when that time 1048 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 4: when the month comes and things just get thrown off, 1049 00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,840 Speaker 4: bounced a little bit. Oh when that when the spikes 1050 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,480 Speaker 4: really pick up. I know what's going on. And then 1051 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,480 Speaker 4: I have to give her so much great, I'm like, great. 1052 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,040 Speaker 1: She looked like, let me see, she's gorgeous. Does she looks? 1053 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,200 Speaker 1: Does she got the looks gorgeous? You know, when women 1054 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,160 Speaker 1: are so fine, you be like, what's remember the guy 1055 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:21,800 Speaker 1: that they were hot and crazy smell. 1056 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:24,200 Speaker 4: From Saint Looisa. 1057 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,919 Speaker 1: Fine? Oh I forgot a fun woman right there. Oh yes, 1058 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:31,760 Speaker 1: I see, I could see the crazy. I see it. 1059 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,360 Speaker 1: It's the eyes. It's the eyes. 1060 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:36,640 Speaker 4: Oh my god. 1061 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 1: I love this picture of you too. 1062 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,840 Speaker 4: That's from the front of my first video. 1063 00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 1: Shoot, first video shoot. 1064 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:43,680 Speaker 4: First video shoot. 1065 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,880 Speaker 1: And he has on leather pants of course that's what 1066 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,400 Speaker 1: we did, dated. 1067 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,040 Speaker 4: White and a bandanna. I ain't got no bandanas, but 1068 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,280 Speaker 4: I tell you right now I gotta, I gotta. I 1069 00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,520 Speaker 4: got a tank top and some leather pants in the closet. 1070 00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:58,320 Speaker 1: You know you got a tank? 1071 00:57:58,840 --> 00:57:59,680 Speaker 4: Stay ready to. 1072 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,760 Speaker 1: Be Wait before we get out of here. How'd you 1073 00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,040 Speaker 1: get your name? Don't tell you the tank top? 1074 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:09,160 Speaker 2: No, I wish I wish it was you said he 1075 00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:10,720 Speaker 2: got that tank in the pants. 1076 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:17,760 Speaker 4: I wish. 1077 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,000 Speaker 1: The Caribbean mom to fucking do Tank. 1078 00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,480 Speaker 3: I'm talking about Lord Jesus, are you here in the 1079 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,640 Speaker 3: room with us? And she over looked, like kept the 1080 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:26,800 Speaker 3: boris kujo? 1081 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 1: Tank? Yes, he is. 1082 00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 4: I say that. My grandmother named me Tank. My cousins 1083 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,960 Speaker 4: were making fun of me because I had a big 1084 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:37,840 Speaker 4: hit in the big stomach. 1085 00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:45,040 Speaker 3: That is hilarious from Geekko hilarious. 1086 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,480 Speaker 4: So my grandma was like, that's my tank. Boy, leaves 1087 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,880 Speaker 4: him alone, Come here Tank, and just started calling because. 1088 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,360 Speaker 1: Your head, that's hilarious. 1089 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:53,080 Speaker 4: Dog. 1090 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:58,720 Speaker 1: If y'all haven't uh. There are over a hundred episodes. 1091 00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:02,600 Speaker 2: Of R and B Money correct hundred in fifty there's 1092 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:08,000 Speaker 2: a ton and guess you and Jay Valentine hosted. One 1093 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,520 Speaker 2: of my favorite episodes was when y'all had Tearan He's 1094 00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,520 Speaker 2: a friend of mine. I love Torn so much, love 1095 00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,760 Speaker 2: that that episode. I was like, and he always drops 1096 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:17,960 Speaker 2: gems and tells the best stories, which I think I 1097 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,400 Speaker 2: love about R and B Money so much. 1098 00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,600 Speaker 1: You get the people so comfortable they do the stories. 1099 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:26,040 Speaker 4: And they really they're really the drivers, you know what 1100 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:30,200 Speaker 4: I mean, their conversations and their experiences and no, no, no no, they. 1101 00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,320 Speaker 2: Say with other people, it's not the same. No, no, no, no, 1102 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:33,680 Speaker 2: they're not the drivers. 1103 00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,480 Speaker 4: Well we know why. You know why. You know why 1104 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:41,120 Speaker 4: because we're of the cloth, right, you know what I mean, 1105 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:45,720 Speaker 4: we we are, we are active, and so our sensibilities 1106 00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,840 Speaker 4: are just different. Yeah, you know, our conversation is just 1107 00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,120 Speaker 4: different because we do it. And so they I mean 1108 00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:55,720 Speaker 4: when they sit on our couch, you know, they they 1109 00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,560 Speaker 4: don't just feel comfortable, they feel appreciated. I mean they 1110 00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,320 Speaker 4: feel thata tell you like, we know what you're doing, 1111 01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,120 Speaker 4: what it is that you do, and how hard it 1112 01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:05,960 Speaker 4: is to do it. We love you and appreciate you. 1113 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:07,760 Speaker 4: This is your space. 1114 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Period, y'all. Check out R and B Money. 1115 01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:14,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you are coming to New York anytime, you 1116 01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,120 Speaker 2: must see Hell's. 1117 01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 1: Kitchen, please tell us so highly on the stage. 1118 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, so, y'all have a good. 1119 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,600 Speaker 2: Amount of time our listeners New York, y'all, this is 1120 01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,680 Speaker 2: one of our biggest audiences. If you're traveling to New York, 1121 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,760 Speaker 2: you must. I'm telling y'all now you must see Hell's Kitchen. 1122 01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:36,000 Speaker 2: And if you're a patron, I because it was so good. 1123 01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,200 Speaker 2: This isn't because Tank right here. I promise you it's 1124 01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:39,720 Speaker 2: not because I would have told them if it was 1125 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:40,680 Speaker 2: mid it wasn't. 1126 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:42,240 Speaker 1: I love it so much. 1127 01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,520 Speaker 2: I am giving away two pairs of tickets to go 1128 01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,800 Speaker 2: see Hell's Kitchen to our patrons. So go on over 1129 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:52,800 Speaker 2: to our Patreon community. That's patreon dot com. Backslash horrible Decisions. 1130 01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,760 Speaker 2: And then also, I was talking to your manager before 1131 01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,160 Speaker 2: we get out of here. You have a new single 1132 01:00:58,200 --> 01:00:59,160 Speaker 2: out with Alisa. 1133 01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:03,280 Speaker 4: Yes, all gone shout out to a black Round record, 1134 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,240 Speaker 4: shout with the Barry Hankerson. Okay, they called me with 1135 01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,520 Speaker 4: this idea, Sean Garrett, who actually helped, you know, reproduce 1136 01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:14,640 Speaker 4: it together. You just wanted the greatest and you know 1137 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,960 Speaker 4: they had the idea to to to make me a 1138 01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:20,720 Speaker 4: part of it. Wow, And for me it was it 1139 01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,280 Speaker 4: was a no brainer. You know what I mean. Any 1140 01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:27,120 Speaker 4: opportunity I get to pay homage to a Leah to 1141 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,840 Speaker 4: just keep her legacy and her memory. 1142 01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:30,520 Speaker 1: I can't wait. 1143 01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:33,200 Speaker 2: Well, I do want to tell you because I was 1144 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:37,640 Speaker 2: looking for it today. It is exclusively on bk stream, 1145 01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,360 Speaker 2: so bokaystreamai dot com if you guys want to hear that. 1146 01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,040 Speaker 2: But I'm literally I was like, Okay, I guess I gotta. 1147 01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:44,200 Speaker 4: Go get on. 1148 01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:49,440 Speaker 2: Uh this app. I love any which way that they're adding. 1149 01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:51,760 Speaker 4: And what I want to add to that is that 1150 01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:57,520 Speaker 4: I think, you know, I think people, you know, when 1151 01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,560 Speaker 4: judging these things and critiquing these things, want people to 1152 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:05,400 Speaker 4: have a little more grace because the song. 1153 01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,560 Speaker 1: Is a or no it's not. 1154 01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:12,400 Speaker 4: But we're dealing with you know, we're dealing with vocals 1155 01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,920 Speaker 4: that are decades and decades all. We're going to salvage 1156 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:18,000 Speaker 4: a lot of things and put things together the best 1157 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:21,320 Speaker 4: way we can to sound the best they can to 1158 01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:26,040 Speaker 4: honor her. You know, I'm not I'm not making a 1159 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:27,800 Speaker 4: bunch of money to do this, you know what I mean. 1160 01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:29,840 Speaker 4: Blackground is not making a bunch of money to do this. 1161 01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:33,360 Speaker 4: But what we are doing is we're ensuring that Aliyah, 1162 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:37,040 Speaker 4: who's important to I think all of us, that that 1163 01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:41,600 Speaker 4: that her spirit and that her legacy remains continues, it 1164 01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:45,840 Speaker 4: continues to live, and it's continued in conversation and we're 1165 01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:47,520 Speaker 4: and we're really just doing the best we can. 1166 01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:49,480 Speaker 1: People will appreciate that. 1167 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,680 Speaker 4: People can it just can be too judgmental when they 1168 01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,760 Speaker 4: don't understand the process everything. But just know that you 1169 01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:58,120 Speaker 4: know we're doing our best. 1170 01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:00,760 Speaker 1: We're not going to judge this. You're just gonna judge 1171 01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:08,160 Speaker 1: that old clip year bro. Thank you so much, y'all. 1172 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,360 Speaker 2: Make sure you go ahead and pre order our book, 1173 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,480 Speaker 2: No holds bar to doing Manifesto of Sexual Exploration and Power. 1174 01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:15,840 Speaker 2: And again I'm giving out two pairs of the tickets 1175 01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:19,640 Speaker 2: two Hell's Kitchen on Broadway in New York City because 1176 01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,000 Speaker 2: you're gonna spend your money on nhbtour dot com. 1177 01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:25,360 Speaker 1: You will, you will NHB tour dot com. Make sure 1178 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:26,320 Speaker 1: you check us out. 1179 01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,200 Speaker 2: And I think that's it, so y'all, thank you so 1180 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,880 Speaker 2: much for tuning in to yet another episode of Decisions, 1181 01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:34,479 Speaker 2: Decisions Yane