1 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: Heather ivany spiritual mentor, it's here. She is an Acacia 2 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: guide and yoga teacher with twenty plus years of experience 3 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: leading souls through life altering transformation and growth that aligns 4 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: them to their current being the keyword current purpose. 5 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: Heather, Hi, how are you. 6 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 3: I'm doing very well. Happy to be with you today. 7 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: Kelly, Thanks so much for being here. I found your 8 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: story so interesting because now you're in this world of 9 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: being a spiritual mentor. You have such a history in yoga, 10 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: but you didn't always work in this area. So you 11 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: started in something of firefighting, and it was river guiding, 12 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: I believe, which is completely different. So can you talk 13 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: us through how you got from firefighting and working outside 14 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: into this now spiritual job and helping other people on 15 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: their journeys. 16 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. So the curiosity with the spiritual realm 17 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 3: has kind of always been there since I was a kid. 18 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 3: I mean, the access that I had to it was 19 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 3: more through the church, Catholic Church growing up. But even 20 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 3: though I didn't quite align with that house, there was 21 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: always a part of me that was curious in what 22 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 3: more was available to us that we just couldn't see. 23 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 3: And then I grew up in a house with like 24 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 3: two older brothers, really had to like elbow your way 25 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 3: in to get any attention and anything done. So I 26 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 3: had a very like jock kind of upbringing. We grew 27 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 3: up in the eighties when you're kind of flying around 28 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 3: the neighborhoods on bikes and you had a lot of freedom. 29 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 3: So that just carried with me in my teens in 30 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: my twenties, so I got into river guiding first. It 31 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 3: was a combination of river guiding and rock climbing and 32 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 3: leading people on hiking trails and whatnot in the rocky 33 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: mountains in Alberta and Canada, and then spent some time 34 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 3: up north on the Nahani River, which which is one 35 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 3: of the bigger, more famous rivers here in Canada. And 36 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 3: what I noticed in that industry was it's just so 37 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: type A. It's very masculine, it's very go go go 38 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 3: in the sense of like doing doing all the exciting 39 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 3: things in nature. And so there's always a part of 40 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 3: me that was kind of longing for a little bit 41 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 3: more solitude and quiet and contemplation. So what actually pulled 42 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 3: me out of that was more burnout and my body, 43 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 3: I was noticing wasn't doing well with all the demands 44 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 3: that were placed upon it, and then the income was 45 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 3: just really low, so I moved out of that. I 46 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 3: started playing a little bit with what else can I 47 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 3: do that's that's related to being physical, but actually could 48 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: lead me into deeper pockets. And so that's when I 49 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 3: started to explore yoga. And for me, when I first 50 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 3: started playing with yoga, actually didn't even know that the 51 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 3: physical component of the austina was connected to meditation or 52 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: philosophy in any way. I didn't actually discover that until 53 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 3: I went into a teacher training. And when you start 54 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 3: to play with all the different facets of yoga, that's 55 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 3: where I was really opened up to the different layers 56 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 3: and branches that are connected to it. But I was 57 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 3: also noticing how much it related to me in the 58 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: different things that I had interest in and passions with. 59 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 3: But I just didn't know that there was a home 60 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 3: where they could actually all participate together. What kind of 61 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 3: led me into the passion and the romance and the 62 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 3: smittenness with the yoga realm? For sure. 63 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: You mentioned burnout, and that's something I've talked a lot 64 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: about on this podcast because I found myself there a 65 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: couple of years ago as well. And for me, it 66 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: was very tied into the go go go, and I 67 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: was operating a lot in my masculine. Was there anything 68 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: specific that you could kind of give listeners that you 69 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: started to recognize in yourself that you were able to 70 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: identify as you operating in the masculine and knowing like 71 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: that wasn't your core energy and where you needed to 72 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: stay to really thrive. 73 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. For me, I mean it shows up in interesting ways. 74 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: For me, I think what I would notice the parts 75 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 3: of myself that I didn't like. So when I'm deep 76 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 3: into the mask and I can get a real kind 77 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 3: of sarcastic, kind of cutting humor, that can show up 78 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,559 Speaker 3: that I would say things that I thought was funny, 79 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 3: and then afterwards I was like, Oh, I don't like 80 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 3: how that came across or how I behaved in that situation. 81 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 3: I also noticed that my cycle would stop and slow down, 82 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 3: like that's how extreme. 83 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:33,679 Speaker 2: I was with Oh wow. 84 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 3: And then the sort of part that kind of really 85 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: hit home was the industries that I'm in attracts of 86 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 3: very similar personalities. So the guys that I would be 87 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 3: dating and hanging out with, they were really attracted to 88 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 3: the part of me that had this real outdoors kind 89 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 3: of adventurous spirit. And then when I went into the 90 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 3: firefighting realm, I met a mechanic who's now my husband, 91 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 3: but he was a helicopter mechanic and he saw the 92 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 3: parts of me that I actually was covering up, and 93 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 3: that's where he started to, you know, take interest in me. 94 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 3: And as those parts started to be revealed, it was 95 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 3: almost like a longing for myself started to come forward, 96 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 3: and these feminine aspects of me just really wanted an outlet. 97 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: Did yoga doing so much yoga really help you tap 98 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: more into your feminine I know I've heard that movement 99 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: like yoga is very essential for women or I guess 100 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: anyone trying to tap into their feminine energy. 101 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. What I think yoga did for me is 102 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 3: because it's a practice that can really slow down. It 103 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 3: gets you to move out of non patterned grooves, so 104 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 3: it gives you it gives you possibility and potential to 105 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 3: move in a way that's not patterned. And then as 106 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 3: soon as you're moving in a non patterned way, you're 107 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: giving yourself choice and freedom to play with what else 108 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 3: is available to you. The biggest thing I noticed with 109 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 3: the yoga was like prior to that, a lot of 110 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 3: the like I've been a teacher since I was young. 111 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 3: I've always coached or done something in that capacity. But 112 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 3: when I moved into the field of yoga, it was 113 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 3: teaching and leading from a more introverted, I would say, 114 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 3: slightly tender, more vulnerable part of myself. Prior to that, 115 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 3: I'd always taught and coached from the real extroverted, outgoing 116 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 3: nature within me. So that was where it was almost 117 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 3: demanded of me to kind of entertain and get familiar 118 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 3: with the feminine so that the parts of the yoga 119 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 3: experience that wanted to be revealed to the class could 120 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 3: come forward. 121 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: That just hit me so hard because even in this 122 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: podcast or any of the work that I do, something 123 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: I've never been able to identify with is speaking from 124 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: that expert place and that driver of like this is 125 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: what you should do. I'm like, I don't know what 126 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: anyone should do on their journey, Like their journey is 127 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: their journey, you know, But I can tell you guys 128 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: about my experience. I'm realizing maybe I'm grappling with that 129 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: because of masculine and feminine energy. 130 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean, I don't same as you're saying 131 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 3: that you don't know what people need. You know yourself best. 132 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 3: But the part of you that wants to like the 133 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 3: part of us that's connected to the over preparedness and 134 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 3: trying to cot with all your questions kind of laid 135 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 3: out before you start, and then directing and managing and 136 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 3: controlling how the conversation goes. That's very much like the masculine, 137 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 3: and it's kind of more hard edged form. But what 138 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 3: you said to me at the very beginning is I 139 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 3: love this to be conversational. 140 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it goes. 141 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 3: I have a few points that create a bit of 142 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 3: a framework of how to lead in, but then from 143 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 3: there we'll just see where it takes us. That's the feminine, 144 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: the one that wants to create and explore through us. 145 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. So interesting. 146 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: Well, earlier I mentioned the words current purpose, and I 147 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: found that really interesting when I was reading about your work, 148 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: because you specifically say that our incarnated purpose is fluid 149 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: and it changes as we evolve, and I've never registered 150 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: anything remotely close to that, and I've always thought you 151 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: just came here and you have this one purpose and 152 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: this is the way, and if you're in line with it, 153 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: things are going to work out and if you're off 154 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: like things are going to start going bad. So can 155 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: you talk through that a little bit? Because I'm fascinated 156 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: by that concept. 157 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 3: Well, the conversation of purpose. I think we make it 158 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 3: static because we forget that it's energy and so everything, 159 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 3: everything that we relate to is energy, and so energy 160 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: is always in form of change. It's always changing. Sometimes 161 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 3: it's slow and sometimes it's fast. So the experience that 162 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 3: I've had with myself and with others is that our 163 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 3: purpose will reveal itself to the degree that our becoming, 164 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,479 Speaker 3: which is the part of ourselves that's growing and expanding, 165 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 3: is expressed. So when I was in my early twenties, 166 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 3: my purpose very much so was being in the field 167 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 3: of teaching yoga and leading people through classes. And I 168 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 3: don't want people to sort of box purpose into just 169 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 3: being a career of vocation. It's more how we show 170 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 3: up and engage with the dance of life. Right. And then, 171 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 3: if the Acashek records would have come in in my twenties, 172 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 3: I wouldn't have been prepared for it. I wouldn't have 173 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 3: known how to manage it and work with it because 174 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 3: I didn't have the tools and the skill set to 175 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 3: play with it. So now in my mid to late forties, 176 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 3: the purpose for me right now that I'm noticing is 177 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 3: that I'm aligning people with their individual self, their center, 178 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 3: their purpose, and supporting them with expanding it so people 179 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 3: can come in and just get more direction as to 180 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: what brings meaning into their life. And I can also 181 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 3: work with the individual that's like, I know exactly what 182 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 3: I'm here to do, but I just don't know how 183 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: to amplify it, how to express it, how to expand it. 184 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 3: So I work with either aligning or expanding people's purpose, 185 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 3: but absolutely it's always changing, and the degree to which 186 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 3: we are moving towards our next becoming is the degree 187 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 3: to which our purpose will be revealed to us. 188 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: So it really is about, well, the way I'm hearing that, 189 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: it's where we are in our journey, and that, like 190 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: you said, you couldn't identify what the Acashak records. We'll 191 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: explain what that is. And at just a second, you guys, 192 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: if you're listening and you're like, what is that? I 193 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: didn't know either, But you couldn't have identified it or 194 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: even maybe had an interest in it in your twenties 195 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: because that wasn't where your journey was leading at that point, 196 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: but as you evolved and grew and face different challenges 197 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: or whatever it was, then things are able to come 198 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: in and you're kind of presented with the options at 199 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: that time. 200 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 3: Totally and for me, like yoga will always be my baseline. 201 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 3: It's okay, the way that everything has kind of built 202 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 3: from the foundation of the yoga practice that I started 203 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 3: in my teens, So that needed to be established and 204 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 3: anchored first for me, not for everyone, before I could 205 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 3: move into the platform of the Acasia. So for example, 206 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 3: if I just sprung right into the Akasak records, but 207 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 3: I didn't have an anchor, I didn't have a foundation, 208 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 3: I didn't have a baseline, then it would become a 209 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 3: very scattered energy. Yeah, probably be fleeting. It would probably 210 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 3: come across as sort of the stereotypical kind of wooho 211 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 3: kind of girl who you know, has rose colored glasses. 212 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 3: Because I'm not really a part of the physical realms, 213 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 3: three dimensional realm of Earth. So I got that baseline 214 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 3: very deeply rooted, and then I allowed myself to liberate 215 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 3: into the Acashak records. But they're both equally a part 216 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 3: of my my my every day, and there's no hierarchy 217 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 3: between the Earth and the cosmos. They're very equal to me. 218 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we've mentioned then Kashak Records, and I said 219 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: we would explain this because I've heard of this, I've 220 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: heard these words, but it is very much just this 221 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: kind of daunting thing to me that I've just never 222 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: really come across in any sort of the work that 223 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: I've done. Can you, first of all, just explain what 224 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: are the Akashak records. 225 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 3: So Akasha is sort of the bigger umbrella of the 226 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 3: Akashak records. So Akasha is a Sanskrit word which means 227 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 3: space or spirit. So if you are more science based, 228 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 3: then the word space relates to the quantum field, which 229 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 3: is the study of everything, right, And if you're more 230 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 3: spiritually based, then spirit connects to consciousness and consciousness is everywhere. 231 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 3: So Akasha is just this big word that envelops everything. 232 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 3: But the Akashak Records specifically is basically, if you think 233 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 3: of it, kind of like the divine blueprint of your soul. 234 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 3: So everyone, if you're open to it, has a soul, 235 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 3: and that soul has information contained within it, which we 236 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 3: call the Kashak Records. It's the timeline of your soul. 237 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 3: So if people are open to having previous life experiences, 238 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 3: whether it's on Earth or on other planets, that's sort 239 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 3: of encapsulated in the frequency of someone's soul. It's like 240 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 3: an etheric library book of your history, your present moment, 241 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 3: and then the future possibilities that are available to you. 242 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 3: So when someone reads someone's Akashic records, you tap into 243 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 3: it like you dial into like an old school radio frequency, 244 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 3: and then once you're dialed in, you can ask questions 245 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 3: and receive information about that person's soul and share it 246 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 3: with them. And trust me, Like, as I'm sharing this, 247 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 3: I still, even though I've been playing with this for 248 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 3: five years, like it still has a surreal vibration to 249 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 3: me as well. And it's still sometimes slightly not the 250 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 3: most comfortable thing to talk about because it's just so 251 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 3: far reaching for a lot of people. 252 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: I get it right, So for people listening that might 253 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: be like, uh huh, So you're saying, basically, you get 254 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: what I would presume or maybe downloads by tapping into 255 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: someone's else someone else's records, And if not, what does 256 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: that look like? 257 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 2: Like, how does that sound? What are you getting? What 258 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 2: kind of information comes through. 259 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 3: So the way that is sort of easiest to play 260 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 3: with it would be we all have senses, right, So 261 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 3: part of our human expensive experience is that we get 262 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 3: to play with our senses. So we have taste, touch, smell, site, 263 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 3: and sound. Right, those are our five senses. Now, when 264 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 3: you take those five senses and you lighten them, they 265 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 3: become what we call Clare abilities. So the most familiar 266 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 3: one that people are relating to is clairvoyant, right, the 267 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 3: ability right with your eyes closed, The ability Claire audio 268 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 3: is hearing when there's no sound. And then you have 269 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 3: Clare sentient, which is feeling, sensation and emotion. Claire cognizance 270 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 3: is like that inner knowing. And then so we usually 271 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 3: just put all of those into the blanket terminology of intuition. 272 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 3: When I'm working with either myself working with a client, 273 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 3: or if I'm teaching others how to work with the 274 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 3: Acashic records, the communication line between the physical and the 275 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 3: non physical realm is your senses, which are physical, but 276 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 3: they become a little bit more light and they turn 277 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 3: into Clare abilities, which then becomes like the communication line 278 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 3: between the physical and the non physical. So if I'm 279 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 3: receiving information and I'm in your records. Oftentimes I'll get 280 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 3: sensation in my body. Sometimes I'll get a visual. Now, 281 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 3: my primary Claire is not clairvoyant, so oftentimes if I'm 282 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 3: getting strong visuals, it's because the client that I'm working 283 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 3: with actually has strong visuals, and I'm because I'm in 284 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 3: their records. I'm perceiving their records from their viewpoint, and 285 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 3: sometimes I get it as a knowing. So how I 286 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 3: sort of play with a session is I'll take a 287 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 3: few minutes to ground and centrists both I do what 288 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 3: I call a banishment mantra, which is basically just clearing 289 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 3: the static out of your space. Because we're kind of 290 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 3: valkyrie by nature and we take on a lot of 291 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: things during the day, so the banishment mantra just kind 292 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 3: of clean slates it and like the ginger after the resabi, 293 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 3: and then I have a short two or three lines 294 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 3: that I use to open up the records. And what 295 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 3: happens for me is each time I open someone's records, 296 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 3: it's everyone has their own signature GPS signal, so it 297 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 3: has a slightly different sensation when I'm opening up your 298 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 3: records versus someone else's records. Versus someone else's records. So 299 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 3: the moment I open it, sometimes I'll get like a 300 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 3: warm sensation in my heart. Sometimes I'll get a sensation 301 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 3: of energy pulling upwards. Sometimes I'll get a like almost 302 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 3: like a pinching or throbbing across the third eye. So 303 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 3: it will open from different locations, and then where it 304 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 3: opens from there's information there as to like the why right, 305 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 3: and some of it's very common. Like if someone opens 306 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 3: up right from the heart space and it's a big, 307 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 3: open hearted expression that I can feel in sense, then 308 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 3: this person very much is an emotional person, and when 309 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 3: they're in their essence, they are operating from what feels 310 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 3: best in their heart. If I open up and I 311 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 3: get a strong sensation and tingling in the crown chalker, 312 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 3: chances are that person's clear cognisance and Claire cognisance is 313 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 3: highly related to our intellects, and so I'll get the 314 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 3: information from that. What I'll infer from that is that 315 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 3: this individual is probably a strong intellect that has a 316 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 3: strong sense of knowing, and what they may or may 317 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 3: not be aware of is that they're clear. Cognisance usually 318 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 3: comes in just slightly faster than thought. So if I 319 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 3: was to say to you, hey, do you want to 320 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 3: you know, check out and go to San Francisco this weekend. 321 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 3: You'll get an instant yes or an instant note of that. 322 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 3: And then what follows in afterwards is the rational mind 323 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 3: of oh my god, that's ridiculous. We can't actually take off. 324 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 3: We have this, this and this going on right. 325 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is fascinating. So everyone has some 326 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: sort of clear something and is it just that in 327 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: each individual we have a different signature, so some of 328 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: them may be stronger than others. And what this work 329 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: does if help you really kind of understand how yours 330 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: works totally. 331 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 3: So what I'm noticing is like kind of the post 332 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 3: pandemic era, yeah, is that for whatever reason, veils were lifted, 333 00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 3: things were released, and people are having more easy being 334 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 3: able to access what they couldn't access before. So prior 335 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 3: to pandemic, I would sort of see someone come in, 336 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 3: I'd be like, okay, you're super sharp clairvoyant, and it's 337 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 3: this singular Claire that's like kind of your Claire. Now 338 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 3: what I see almost every time. So when I do 339 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 3: in aksha training, when I'm teaching people how to read 340 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 3: the akashik records. They get a Kashak record reading with 341 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 3: me before we go into the training, and in that reading, 342 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 3: I'm identifying what their claars are, so that when we're 343 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 3: in training, I can know how best to coach and 344 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 3: speak and mentor to them based on what their clayers 345 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 3: are strongest with. But what's really interesting is that what 346 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 3: I'm seeing is almost everyone now is multi claire. But 347 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 3: you'll just have thumb claires that are more predominant than others. 348 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: And it's like a muscle. 349 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 3: So if you want to be a stronger runner, what 350 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 3: do you do. You hire a coach and you start 351 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 3: running and you work with your nutrition. So if you 352 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 3: want to be stronger clairvoyant, you might do practices like 353 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 3: something like a visual meditation rather than a sensory meditation. 354 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 3: You might play with increasing your daydreaming. Right, So just 355 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 3: allowing yourself to get to sit on the couch and 356 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 3: have a cup of tea and just let the imagination 357 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 3: go wild. And for many of us we block this 358 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 3: out because it's not a part of the responsibilities of 359 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 3: being an adult, but it's so signature to so many 360 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 3: people's essence of being in their nature is giving themselves 361 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 3: permission to daydream and visualize and imagine. Other people might 362 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 3: play with a practice like yoga nidra, which is the 363 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 3: yoga of sleep. So you're lying down on your back 364 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 3: and you're listening to an audio recording and in the 365 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 3: process of a yoga nidra, it'll have a moment where 366 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 3: it moves through rapid visualizations and longer visualizations. And when 367 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 3: you work with a yoga nidra, over time your ability 368 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 3: to recall those images speeds up and it becomes more vivified. 369 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 3: So yes, everyone has them, and you can work them 370 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 3: in and curate them if you want to. 371 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: What's so fascinating I have said over and over on 372 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: this podcast, I'm like the pandemic was this massive trauma 373 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: that we all went through together, and I've felt the 374 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: shift in people, like things have just been different. I've 375 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: looked at it as people became more aware of if 376 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: they were depressed, Like we just had to slow down, right, 377 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: So we've had to face ourselves in some capacity, way, 378 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: shape or form. And it felt like there were so 379 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: many different things happening too, politically and just like the 380 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: divisiveness of our culture, and so then it was like 381 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: people seem to be seeking I think that's how I've 382 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: said it is something seems like people are shifting. They 383 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 1: want to know what's going on with them, they want 384 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: to look into these healing practices. So it's so fascinating 385 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: to me to hear you say that you're recognizing people's 386 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: kind of awareness just opening up in general. 387 00:21:55,920 --> 00:22:01,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, and same conversation, but in slightly different languaging. What 388 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 3: I sort of see is that if we rewind maybe 389 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 3: two or three hundred years ago, we had a very 390 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 3: strong investment in humanity to have faith and belief in 391 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 3: what we couldn't see. Now. The downside of that is 392 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 3: we kind of outsourced it entirely to of our religious 393 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 3: leaders and spiritual teachers, and we know the side effect 394 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 3: of that of how it can just be manipulated and 395 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 3: used to a disadvantage towards us. So then we abandon it. 396 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 3: And for the last two or three hundred years, we've 397 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 3: placed all of our real estate into what we call 398 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 3: the rational realm, which is great. It gives us the 399 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 3: sense of control and allows us to get a lot 400 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 3: of things done. But what people are realizing is that 401 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 3: they're missing meaning in life, and meaning comes from the realm. 402 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 3: That's irrational. I'll call it that because it is irrational. 403 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,239 Speaker 3: It does things that are beyond what is predictable and 404 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 3: they don't make sense. And so for many of us, 405 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 3: what we're leaning into is how can we recreate the 406 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 3: ability to trust and have faith in what is irrelevant 407 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 3: when we've been taught that when things are irrational, not irrelevant, irrational, 408 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 3: but when we're taught when things are irrational, that we're 409 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 3: meant to avoid them and only hunt for what's rational 410 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 3: and what's practical and what makes sense. But that gives 411 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 3: us such a domestication that our wildness within us is 412 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 3: being lost, and we need both. We need to have 413 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 3: our wildness. We need to have the spontaneous way that 414 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 3: life shows up the things that are unpredictable and we 415 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 3: can't plan for. That's where our liveness comes from. And 416 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 3: then the domestication is great because it allows us to 417 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 3: have the advancements that we do because we're not spending 418 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 3: ten hours a day building a fire and cooking back right. 419 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: It's so interesting too, because if you know anything about 420 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 1: astrology and my listeners, we do an astrology report every 421 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: month to start the month, and this ties in so 422 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: much with the shifts that we're seeing how we were 423 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: in the difference, Like we're moving into the Age of Aquarius, 424 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: which is all spiritual and innovative and tapping into deeper 425 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: meanings just like you're saying. And so it all works together. 426 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: But I love that this kind of taps into your 427 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: individual way to process through all the changes that we're 428 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: going to be making, like just as a world. 429 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love how how the spider web is constantly connecting. 430 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 3: So I have a colleague that her name has ever 431 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 3: done what she's out of Australia. 432 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 2: I know Emma, she's done this podcast. 433 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 3: Oh awesome. So yeah, that she's a huge human design coach, 434 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 3: right yes, yeah, So when I come on what's fascinating 435 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 3: for me is when I come on to her portal 436 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 3: and I do some guest teaching in there. Her clientele 437 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 3: is all very well versed in human design. And what's 438 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,239 Speaker 3: interesting to me is I can come in and do 439 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 3: in a kashik record reading with someone and I will 440 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 3: because I'm not human design, like I know a little bit, 441 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 3: but not them, right yeah. And what's fascinating is that 442 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 3: the points that I speak to line up with their 443 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,719 Speaker 3: human design chart, even though I don't know what their 444 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 3: astrology or human design chart is. So yeah, it's and 445 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 3: it finally explained to me why I because I love 446 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 3: Emma and every time I work with her, I get 447 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 3: super lit up. But I can't seem to get myself 448 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,479 Speaker 3: to really get into the theory of the human design. 449 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 3: And then it just clicked for me, And it's because 450 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 3: that's not my method. My method is right through the 451 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 3: Yucashic records, and so you're right, it's all kind of 452 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 3: these different ways that we can play with it, but 453 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 3: we end up at the same meeting. 454 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 2: Place one hundred percent. 455 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: I mean, that's why I love doing this podcast because 456 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: I get to interview different facilitators of these different things, 457 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: and then the listeners get to decide which way they 458 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: want to go, like which one is lighting them up, 459 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: which one is speaking to them. And I am one 460 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: of those people that likes to dabble in a little 461 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: bit of all of it because I think it's so 462 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: fascinating and validating to me to have the connections happen, 463 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: because then it's just like, oh, right, I heard that 464 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: over here and then you're saying the same thing. So 465 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: it's very much in line with me my purpose, who 466 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: I am all of those things altogether? Yeah, yeah, Well, 467 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: speaking of Emma, actually I listened to the podcast that 468 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: you did with her, and you guys were talking about 469 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: a client of yours. I thought this was really interesting 470 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: that it was diagnosed with ADHD, I believe, and you 471 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: were saying after you did a reading with him, you 472 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: were able to identify. No, you're just getting the pings 473 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: of the different players. Stopped me if I'm saying this incorrectly, 474 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: But that was part of the way he was supposed 475 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: to get or use his intuition or move through life. 476 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: And it's so interesting that we as a culture will say, no, 477 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: something's wrong with you. You have ADHD, you need to be 478 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: on medicine. And it was really how he's supposed to exist. 479 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: So can you talk through a little bit of why 480 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: maybe these things that we perceive as negative qualities are 481 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: actually not and it could be our strongest assets. 482 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 3: Well, we could open up a bit of a can 483 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 3: of worms. Okay, if we want to get into like 484 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 3: the the why would we want to clip someone's wings 485 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 3: or pin someone down? There's a lot of I mean, 486 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 3: we can get into our our systems and whatnot as 487 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:22,479 Speaker 3: to why that could happen, but I think, what what 488 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 3: I've seen. Oftentimes when yes, when someone comes in and 489 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 3: they have a history of ADHD where I've seen it, 490 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 3: And this is what I love the most is that 491 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 3: I get so educated by reading other people's records, because 492 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 3: there's a lot of things that come in around I'm like, oh, 493 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 3: my goodness, I've never seen this before, and I just 494 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 3: start to stay with the breadcrumbs, and as I'm sharing 495 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 3: it with the individual across from me, I'm simultaneously being 496 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 3: educated and taught as to the other option that could 497 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 3: be here that we're not right. So with the ADHD 498 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 3: in particular, when you take that energy and you put 499 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 3: it into a lighter form, oftentimes what I see is 500 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 3: people that are presenting as ADHD on Earth. They have 501 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 3: so many different ways that they need to receive information 502 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 3: so that they can make sense of what's going on 503 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 3: and create their next steps. And so oftentimes these are 504 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 3: people that have, if you're open to it, they've had 505 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 3: lifetimes on other planets where they've shown up in different 506 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 3: ways and they've taken that intellect and that wisdom teaching 507 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 3: from that lifetime and they're bringing it into this lifetime. 508 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 3: So someone for example that I find when people are 509 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 3: very I call them almost like frequency based individuals. So 510 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 3: when I open up their records, I might see like 511 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 3: almost like color moving in a wave like form, or 512 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 3: it feels almost like a pulse, or like their essences 513 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 3: kind of slowly mean during down a river. Oftentimes these 514 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 3: individuals have had lifetimes where they've been more in formlessness 515 00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 3: than form and so the frequency of that lifetime comes 516 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 3: into this lifetime and they're very clear sentient, they feel 517 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 3: very much sensation that comes through. And there are oftentimes 518 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 3: people that are very strong Claire audio in a sense 519 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 3: that music is an excellent way to help to open 520 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 3: up the meditation current for them. Music can take them 521 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 3: to places where voice and language can't. And so frequency 522 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 3: type individuals they need to receive in a numerous different ways. 523 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 3: So they need to feel it, they need to hear it, 524 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,719 Speaker 3: they'll know it when it comes in right. So this 525 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 3: is how the multiplayers are all coming in. And if 526 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 3: you take someone that learns and discovers in this way 527 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 3: and then you strip the way that they learn a 528 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 3: way and pin them into a one pointed focus, it 529 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 3: doesn't work for them very well. And so in our 530 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 3: society it's challenging because we just have a society that's 531 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 3: so well set up for the nine to five than 532 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 3: the linear way of working right, and ADHD doesn't work 533 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 3: that way. So I mean an easy way to rather 534 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 3: than trying to figure out how to incorporate them into society, 535 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 3: it's easier to medicate and make them fit the mold. 536 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 2: That makes them so sad. 537 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,959 Speaker 3: Or the opposite. And this is what I this is 538 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 3: just you know, my insight is that there's a way 539 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 3: that they communicate. Yeah, that is beyond the advancement of 540 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 3: where we're at. And that's threatening. 541 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 2: Oh believe that. 542 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 3: So if it's threatening, what do we want to do? 543 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 3: We want to shut it down? 544 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 2: How do we control it? 545 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 3: We control it? Yeah? Now, am I totally saying that 546 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 3: there's not a time and a place for people to 547 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 3: have coping mechanisms and a way to deal totally? Absolutely, 548 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 3: But there's more options out there. And I think that 549 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 3: if we can start to see ADHD as as a 550 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 3: superpower rather than a hindrance, I just think that that 551 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 3: just supports people so much more in their authenticity. 552 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: Well, it really goes along with anything though, because like 553 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: I'm a very I'm a feeler and that's the way 554 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: I describe it. But I'm assuming maybe that I'm very 555 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: clear sentient, like I definitely feel things of other people. 556 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: I am forty two and I'm just now learning wait wait, wait, 557 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: this is like literally a superpower. I can feel things 558 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: when I walk in a room that other people aren't identifying, 559 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: and so I'm learning, and I'm also learning what's mine 560 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: and what someone else is because I've just walked around 561 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: my whole life feeling like almost a crazy person some 562 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: days because I'm feeling so many things at so many times, 563 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: and i think that I'm sad or I'm mad or whatever, 564 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: and I'm like, but why doesn't make sense? And it's 565 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: because it's not mine. So I'm able to right now 566 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: start to identify and what's mine and what other people's is. 567 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: But for so long in my life, I've been told 568 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: you're too much, you're too emotional, you're this. Hear that like, 569 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: because people don't know how to deal with it, and 570 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,239 Speaker 1: I've had to come to terms with it and go, 571 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: wait a second, I can use this and everything I'm doing. 572 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: So it's kind of sad to me, not kind of, 573 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: it's very sad to me, and I'm hoping this is 574 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: something that shifts in our culture too, where we're not 575 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: telling everyone you have like success looks like this, you 576 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: have to do things this way, fit in this box, 577 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: because there's absolutely no way that we can all live 578 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: in our own authenticity and operate that way. Like we 579 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: each individually have to be able to tap into our 580 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: specific players, our different purposes, all of those things, and 581 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: I actually think it would make our world work so 582 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: much more beautifully. 583 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, one hundred percent. I mean, this is 584 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 3: why I love the I mean, I don't have the 585 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 3: statistics on it, but women in business is exploding. And 586 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 3: it's not just because women are feeding the feminist movement 587 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 3: of you know, empowerment to do the things we want 588 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 3: to do. It's because it actually fits with our cycle 589 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 3: to be a female entrepreneur able to have times of 590 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 3: the month where you're going to go hard with your 591 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 3: extraversion and be engaging and charismatic with people. You know, 592 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 3: when you're in the phase of your ovulation, that's perfect. 593 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 3: And then when there's times closer to your cycle when 594 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 3: you want to be more cocoon and you know, maybe 595 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 3: that's when you're creating content and writing or resting, but 596 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 3: the entrepreneurship, the self employment, it's a better fit for 597 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 3: women than the nine to five constructs that we play with. 598 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 3: Kate Northrop, I think that's her name. She wrote a 599 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 3: book about this, and then one that I'm playing with 600 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 3: most recently is the title silly, but the content's great. 601 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 3: It's called Fast Like a Girl. And I've played with 602 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 3: intimate and fasting in the past because I want to 603 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 3: use it as a method to help to support my 604 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 3: spiritual practice. But I've always like lost the game with 605 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 3: it because I just can't seem to do it for 606 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 3: any longer than like a half day. And the whole 607 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 3: principle is that women need to fast at different times 608 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 3: in their cycle so that it's more supportive. And there's 609 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 3: certain times in your cycle when you should not be 610 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 3: fasting at all, and that's when you're eating and other 611 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 3: times in New York And when I started playing with this, 612 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 3: I'm only in like month three. It's a total game changer, Kelly. 613 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 3: And so you're right, like the way that we get 614 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 3: put into these molds and how to show up. It 615 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 3: works really well when you're in corporate because the way 616 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 3: that corporate wants to produce is it wants mass production, 617 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 3: so it wants the one size fits all. But the 618 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 3: reality is that when we break it down and go 619 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 3: really individual with it, the one size fits all doesn't work. 620 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 3: This is why for me with the ACAHIC training, I've 621 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 3: never written a book or like an online course to 622 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,479 Speaker 3: self study on how to read the ACASHK records because 623 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 3: there's so many little nuances that I do when I 624 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 3: work with people in the training to help to get 625 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 3: them in to where they want to be. And I 626 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 3: can't tell you how many people have like come to 627 00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 3: me and said, you know, I want to do the 628 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 3: t but I don't think I'll be able to read 629 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 3: the records because I've tried doing it on my own 630 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 3: and I can't seem to get in. And I'm just like, well, 631 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,879 Speaker 3: you just you haven't found the technique. You're not using 632 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 3: the right technique. So I agree one hundred percent. And 633 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 3: it creates conflict and confusion because it's a slower process 634 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 3: to figure out what needs to happen on a personalized 635 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 3: way to make it available for people. 636 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: Well, I'm excited that we're getting even having these kind 637 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: of conversations because I do think it moves us in 638 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 1: that direction. There's one last thing I wanted to ask you. 639 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,959 Speaker 1: And I find this to be such a big part 640 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: of any growth process, and I talk about this a 641 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: lot with my listeners, of just knowing that going through 642 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: this lifetime, you know there's going to be pain, and 643 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 1: it's not because we did something bad or wrong. It's 644 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 1: just a part of the journey. For me, It's been 645 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: a massive part of any sort of evolution. I don't 646 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: I won't change without pain. I mean, I don't think 647 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,240 Speaker 1: any of us will, right, So do you have any tips, 648 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: because I know this is a big part of the 649 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: work you do with your clients, But do you have 650 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: any tips that you would give my listeners, just of 651 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 1: how to sit with the discomfort? I think that's also 652 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: a big part of yoga that I learn in yoga. 653 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: But how do you sit with the discomfort knowing that 654 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: that is just a part of the journey leading you 655 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: to a greater version of yourself. 656 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 3: I would say that part of it is our relationship. 657 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 3: How are we relating to it? So if we're relating 658 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 3: to it from the perspective of I need to just 659 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 3: move through this thing or be able to overcome this 660 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 3: particular thing, I think it becomes even harder and more challenging. 661 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 3: So the way that I play with it, and sometimes 662 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 3: I'll work with people to play with it, is, whatever 663 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 3: the situation is at hand, can we take a half 664 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 3: step back and away from it and zoom out a 665 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 3: bit so that we have other choices available to us. 666 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 3: So the more personal something is, the more narrow focus 667 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 3: we become, and we see it as this or that 668 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 3: rather than an or. Okay, now the moment we can 669 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 3: zoom out a little bit and play with it from 670 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 3: an and or perspective, Then we start to have choice. 671 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 3: And when we have choice, we relax and we start 672 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 3: to feel a little bit more of a sense of freedom. 673 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 3: But on top of that, we believe our thoughts in 674 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,959 Speaker 3: our beliefs to such a degree that they become true 675 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:26,280 Speaker 3: for us, and simply asking the question of is that true? 676 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 3: You know, the Byron Katy kind of expression, is that true? 677 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 3: I find that really supportive And recently I read a 678 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 3: quote just srot it down yesterday. Forgiveness is the realizing 679 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 3: that what I thought happened didn't. So we have such 680 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 3: a layered perspective of how something went down that oftentimes 681 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,919 Speaker 3: that one viewpoint is the only angle that we'll look 682 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 3: at it from, and the moment that we can just 683 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 3: shift and sit in the other person's seat or some 684 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 3: other angle to look at it from, it starts to 685 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 3: Oftentimes what I find is because it's energy, and energy 686 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 3: is constantly changing. You know this. The moment that you 687 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 3: start to place your attention on something, it changes, whether 688 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 3: you want it to or not. It changes. If you 689 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 3: want to place your attention onto your heart. The moment 690 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 3: you place your attention onto your heart, cells actually migrate 691 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 3: towards the heart. They start to go there and be like, Ooh, 692 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 3: something's happened in the heart. Let's go see what's going on. 693 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,879 Speaker 3: And your breath is going to start to move into 694 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 3: the heart. And you haven't even given direction as to 695 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,720 Speaker 3: what you're trying to do with the heart, But simply 696 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 3: placing your attention on it changes it. It shifts it. 697 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,280 Speaker 3: So when you're sitting with something that's uncomfortable or something 698 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 3: that's challenging, giving yourself the opportunity it's not just sitting 699 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 3: with the uncomfortableness of it, but allowing yourself to be 700 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 3: more eye to eye with it and just not doing 701 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 3: anything but watching how it changes. Placing your attention on it. 702 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 3: Does that mean? Wow? 703 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 2: That makes total sense. 704 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 1: That quote really just rocked me because it's similar to 705 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: what I was saying in some ways too. If you 706 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 1: have a painful experience, I think we just want to 707 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 1: identify them as good or bad, and it's like this 708 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 1: or that, like you're saying, and when you can look back. 709 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: I think this is why we always say, like we're 710 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: so things look different in reflection, Like when you're looking back, 711 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: the most painful experiences of your life end up being 712 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,280 Speaker 1: really great ultimately probably in most cases. 713 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,839 Speaker 2: Because they shift your road, they shift. 714 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: The thing that wasn't working in your life, and you're 715 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: able to open up to a whole new path. Or 716 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,320 Speaker 1: that's been my experience. So I just love that quote 717 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 1: because it's like, yeah, when you can get to forgiveness, 718 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: it's when you go, oh, it wasn't this or that. 719 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: There's all these ants ores up in there and it 720 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 1: was for my high. 721 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 2: As good all of it always is. I believe it 722 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 2: always is, and you know it. 723 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 3: I also like to just hold space for there's a 724 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 3: difference between how is this working towards my unfolding, my becoming, 725 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,320 Speaker 3: my expansion, That to me is different language than everything 726 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:13,280 Speaker 3: has a silver line. 727 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,240 Speaker 2: Oh I agree, Yes, I really believe that, like, yes. 728 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 3: There's some shit things that happen and it just sucks. 729 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 2: Yes, and that's important to feel that. 730 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 3: Yes. Yeah. And so when we default to the like, 731 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 3: oh well every you know, everything has a has a 732 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 3: meaning and a p it just takes the energy away 733 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 3: of like what actually took place in that situation. But 734 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,799 Speaker 3: when we can start to exactly what you're saying, when 735 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 3: we can start to lean it into Okay, how is 736 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 3: this working for me? And and for me this is 737 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 3: like five steps after one. 738 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: I can't ever see this when I'm in it because 739 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: I need to feel the feeling and I need to 740 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,879 Speaker 1: feel the pain and the sadness and the anger and 741 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 1: hatred or whatever it is. I have to go through 742 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: all the feelings before I can even reflect on it. 743 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I agree. So space distance actually 744 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 3: asking others for their perception, like what's your opinion? What 745 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 3: do you think happened? Yeah? Is there an angle that 746 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 3: I'm not seeing? Is there a blind spot that I 747 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 3: don't have here? Like, don't underestimate the power of someone 748 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,359 Speaker 3: else being the eyes and the voice of God for 749 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 3: you in that moment. It doesn't always have to go 750 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 3: up into the ethers. It can be directly across from 751 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 3: you at any moment. 752 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 2: I love that well, Heather. 753 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 1: If listeners are interested in working with you or just 754 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 1: falling along with the kind of work that you do, 755 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: where would they find you. 756 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 3: Easiest way to get in touch with me is just 757 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,760 Speaker 3: to go to my website. It's my name Heather ivany 758 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 3: I v A n Y dot com and there's everything 759 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 3: available to you there. So if you just want more 760 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 3: experience of me with no strings attached, there's lots of 761 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 3: free options there. I have programs and retreats. I have 762 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 3: a retreat coming up this November in Mexico. So if 763 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 3: people are just looking for a real experience of consciousness, 764 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 3: not just a conversation of it, that's what my retreats 765 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,280 Speaker 3: are for. So yeah, that's. 766 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: All I'll put that and also your social media in 767 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 1: case anyone wants to follow along, and they're in the 768 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: description of this podcast. Thank you so much for this 769 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: conversation and just for being here with us. 770 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,320 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me Kelly. It was a pleasure. 771 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:17,840 Speaker 2: Thank you guys for listening