WEBVTT - As Goes California with Larry Elder 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.720 There's no secret that states like California have turned into 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:08.800 left wing dystopia's So why not leave? Why are Republicans 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:12.640 or even independents staying. They have to deal with crime, 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:14.880 they have to deal with wope, nonsense, they have to 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:18.320 deal with homelessness, a variety of issues that they're facing 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:21.400 as a result of left wing policies driven by Governor 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:22.080 Gavin Newsom. 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:23.119 So why not leave? 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:25.880 We'll talk to one man who wrote a book about 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:28.240 trying to save California. He's out with a new book 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:31.880 called Asgo's California, My Mission to Rescue the Golden State 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:34.880 and save the nation. He also decided to challenge Gavin 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:37.479 Newsom in the twenty twenty one recall. His name is 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:38.200 Larry Elder. 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:39.000 You know him. 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:42.159 He's a radio host, best selling author, and commentator. We're 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:44.560 going to talk to him about his decision to stay 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:47.360 in California, Why he's doing it, Does he really think 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:50.639 there's even the potential of change there. We'll also get 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:53.280 into a whole host of other issues. He's also decided 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:54.800 to throw his name in the hat for the twenty 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:57.160 twenty four presidential race. We'll get into that and a 0:00:57.200 --> 0:00:59.480 bunch of other issues that are just plaguing the nation. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:08.520 Don't miss this interview with Larry Elder. Larry Elder, It's 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:10.319 an honor to have you on the show. I've not 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:12.120 had you on I don't think. I don't even know 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:13.839 have we met. I don't know if we've met in person. 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:15.880 I've followed your work. I obviously know who you are. 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:17.560 I follow you on Twitter. It's an honor to have 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:18.160 you on the show. 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:21.520 We've not met in person, but you know I followed 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:23.120 you as well. Thank you very much for having me. 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:23.760 I appreciate it. 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:25.800 Yeah, we'll have to change that. I hope to meet 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:27.040 you in person someday. 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:29.720 Really pretty charming, Lisa. It'll be a treat. 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:32.240 That's you know what, Larry, That is what I've heard. 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:39.160 So I've only heard great things about you. So, you know, Larry, 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:41.280 we look at you know. I left New York right. 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:44.680 I was in New York for three years and left 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:47.600 during COVID. Just saw the direction things were going in 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:49.560 and said, you know what, I might still have to 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.280 go up for work unfortunately, but I live in Florida. 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:55.920 Now you're still in California. You know, why not just leave? 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:59.040 Well, this is my hometown. I was born here. My 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:03.040 father came here right before the war World War two, 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:04.600 and then when the war was over, he was in 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:07.400 the military, he was in the Marines. He came out 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:09.880 here because he thought it was less racist in the South, 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:12.760 which is where he's from. So all my roots are here, 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:16.079 my pastor is here, my friends are here, and I'm 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:18.800 one of those who feels Lisa at some point like 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.280 a drug addict. The voters are going to hit rock 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:24.480 bottom and begin to rethink how they've been voting. Democrats 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:29.639 have controlled this state forever. We've got supermajorities of Democrats 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:32.760 in the Assembly and in the Senate, the two chambers 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:37.000 of our legislature, and they passed one job killing bill 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:41.400 after another, one brain dead bill after another, and then 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:44.240 we have a left wing governor who signs them. We've 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:48.280 got crime, we've got a homelessness problem. Our schools are 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:50.400 right near the bottom of all fifty states. People are 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:52.760 leaving the state for the first time in one hundred 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:55.640 and seventy years. The average price of a home in 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:57.840 California is one hundred and seventy five percent above the 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:01.800 national average. We have poor fire management, poor water management. 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:04.080 At some point, you think that the voters are going 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:07.400 to say uncle, but they don't. But sooner or later 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:10.280 they've got to. We've got a we've gone from one 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:13.519 hundred billion dollar budget surplus that gavinknews and bragged about 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:17.680 now to about a thirty billion dollar government deficit and 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:20.800 we have, wait for it, a one point five trillion 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:25.560 dollar underfunded pension liability. So sooner or later, the voters 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:28.360 are going to have to rethink their assumptions. And I hope, 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:31.639 I hope, I still I hope I'm around when that happens. 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:33.400 You know, I mean laying that all out, I mean, 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:36.160 it's bad, you know, I mean, you see you know videos, 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:38.400 it just looks like a dystopia. You've got, you know, 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:41.000 homeless people walking around doing drugs in the middle of 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:42.720 the streets, pooping in the middle of the streets. 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:44.800 So it's like, what does rock Bottom look like? 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:47.240 Well, that's a good question. I was just reading today 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:50.560 in the La Times had a front page article about 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:55.680 what the new mayor is doing to solve the homelessness problem. 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:58.520 And what she's done is she's offered them somewhere to go, 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:03.440 and if they don't go, you can't force them. So 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:06.200 until and unless voters have come to the point where 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:09.280 you are not going to be on the streets. Either 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:11.320 you're going to jail, or you're going to go to 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:13.160 a bed that we have somewhere, or are you going 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:14.880 to go to rehab one of the three. But you 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:18.200 will not be allowed to remain on the streets until 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:20.520 the voters are ready to do that, and until the 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:24.200 courts are ready to enforce those laws that require them 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:25.880 to do one of those three things. We're going to 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:28.600 have these problems. And again, sooner or later, it's going 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:30.320 to get so bad that I believe the voters are 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:31.880 going to begin to rethink their assumptions. 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:34.839 When did you start seeing the state take a nose dive? 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:38.240 But I imagine COVID the state's response to COVID know 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:40.760 led to a lot of the downturn that we're seeing now. 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:44.200 It accelerated it, certainly, but no, it's been bad for 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:47.520 a long time. We spend half of our budget goes 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:50.560 to the schools K through twelve, and again, as I mentioned, 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:53.760 they're near the bottom. Seventy five percent of black boys 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:57.119 in California can neither read nor do math at grade level. 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:01.560 And then, of course COVID can along and Gavin Newsom 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:03.840 shut down the state in a more severe way than 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:06.800 did any of the other forty nine governors. A third 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.040 of all restaurants, many of them are owned by mom 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:11.160 and poppers who are black and brown. The very people 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:13.200 that people on the left claim that they care about 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:17.000 are now gone forever. We have rising crime in La 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:20.560 rising crime in the Bay Area, rising crime in San Diego, 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:23.200 all because of the soft on crime das, all of 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:27.000 whom Gavin Newsom is either publicly supported or, in the 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:29.719 case of George Gasco in the soft on crime DA 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:33.120 of La County. He appointed him to the DA's job 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:36.920 in the Bay Area, and then Gascon comes down here 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:40.760 and runs to get selected. So things are getting worse 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:43.400 and worse and worse. In my opinion, we've lost about 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:46.599 five hundred thousand people in California in the last three 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:49.039 or four years, and Gavin Newsom is running around the 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:53.280 country thinking that someday he's going to become president. It's outrageous. Again. 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:55.359 I think that sooner or later the voters have to 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:57.720 begin to rethink their assumptions. I just hope i'm around 0:05:57.720 --> 0:05:58.599 when they begin to do so. 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:01.960 I really don't think enough can be said about just 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:05.880 the damage these Sorow supported das have done in so 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:08.960 many places around the country. I mean, it really is 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:13.640 just devastating how much wreckage one man has done in America. 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:15.839 Well, that's right, and that's one of my campaign issues 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:17.839 when I decided to run for president. That's one of 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:19.600 the things I'm going to be talking about. One of 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:21.640 the first things I'm going to do when I get 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:25.240 to the White House. Lisa assigned an executive order that 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:28.320 cuts off the money to these counties where the soft 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:32.040 on crime das exists, federal money because the number one 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:35.000 responsibility of government is to protect people in property and 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:37.000 they're not doing it. One of the things I'm proposing 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:39.880 in Iowa, Iowa was the first contest the caucus is 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:43.680 going to be late January early February, is I'm proposing 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:46.280 to the Iowa legislature that they set up a commission, 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:49.880 as they've done in Georgia, mostly of judges, so that 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:51.920 when you have these soft on crime das, and they've 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:55.000 got one in de Wine, Iowa who's not doing the job, 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:59.200 that DA can be recalled. Again. This is just and again, 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:01.640 the people that are most hurt by all police are 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:03.960 the very black and brown people that people on the 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:06.960 left purport to care about. This lie that the police 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:09.760 are engaging in systemic racism is causing the police to 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:12.000 pull back. It's called the Ferguson effect or the George 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:14.920 Floyd effect. And there are hundreds, if not thousands, of 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:18.640 what one researcher calls excess deaths, in other words, people 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:20.960 who are dead who wouldn't be dead if the police 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:23.800 were doing their normal proactive policing. And again, the majority 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:25.960 of these people who are now dead are the black 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:28.120 and brown people that people on the left claim that 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:28.720 they care about. 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:32.360 Well, it has just been distorted into such a lie 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:35.480 or just the racial dynamics play such a strong role 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:37.320 in the narrative of these things. I mean, you look 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:42.120 at the Jordan Neely Daniel Penny situation. I mean, honestly, 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:45.040 if Daniel Penny wasn't white, I really don't think it 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:47.360 would have gotten the kind of attention it has, or 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:49.360 he wouldn't be getting the kind of criticism he's gotten. 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:50.320 To be honest, well. 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:52.120 I agree, and that's what the left, the media of 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:55.320 the Democrats to do. They push this argument that America 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:57.480 is systemically racist. The reason they do it is because 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:00.760 they want black voters to be angry, they'll vote ninety 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:02.680 ninety five percent for the Democratic Party. That's one of 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:05.760 the reasons I'm running to refute this lie that America 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:09.040 is systemically racist. The other reason I'm running is because 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:11.720 we don't talk about the ten thousand pound elephant in 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.840 the room, Lisa, and that is the epidemic of fatherlessness. 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:17.360 Seventy percent of black kids into the world without a 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:20.160 father in the home, married to the mother, and the 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:23.160 odds are that when you are raised without a father, 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:26.400 a much higher chance of being poor, of dropping out 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:28.640 of school, of ending up in jail. And we don't 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:31.800 talk enough about the fact that the welfare state has 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:34.840 over the last fifty to sixty years, incentivized women to 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:38.080 marry the government and incentivize men to abandon their financial 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:40.480 and more responsibility. And that's one of the reasons I'm 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:42.520 running and asking people to go to Elder for President 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:44.760 dot com throw something in the tip jar so I 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:47.520 get on that debate stage in Milwaukee, Lisa, and say 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:49.440 some of the things to the country that I've said 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:52.839 to you. I've got to raise forty I've got to 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:57.760 get donation from forty thousand individuals and two hundred out 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:00.800 of each of twenty states in order to qualify that 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:03.280 first debate. And once I get up there, as far 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:06.960 as I'm concerned, it's game on. Hold my beer, Hold 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:07.240 my beer. 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.560 I like that, you know, I do think the fatherlessness 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:12.120 is a huge issue. I'm glad that you know you 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:14.960 brought that up, and it is just so important. But 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:17.440 I mean, if you really think about the Left wants 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:19.560 women to be married to the government, right, they don't 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:22.959 want fathers. I really don't believe the left one's fathers involved, 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:26.000 because they want people who are beholden to the government. 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:29.400 And so they're trying to dismantle you know, family, dismantle faith, 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:32.760 dismantle anything that gives you roots. They want you susceptible 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:35.440 to needing the government, and you know, being dependent on 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:35.959 the government. 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:39.160 Whether that's their intent or whether it's the effect, it 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:41.439 really doesn't matter. The effect is to make people more 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:44.439 dependent upon government. The La Times, I think was in 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:46.320 the mid eighties, did a poll of people who were 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:50.000 poor and ask them whether welfare was an intermediate step 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:53.200 to get you to a state of independence or whether 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:54.800 it was a crutch that made you dependent on the 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.520 government more of them, Lisa, it was a crutch that 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:00.120 made you dependent, than said it was an intermediary, a 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:02.719 step to get you to become independent. So people who 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:06.000 are on welfare are aware that it's a trap. Even 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:10.679 FDR who launched the New Deal, even he referred to 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:14.720 welfare as a quote subtle, narcotic, close quote that makes 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:18.480 people dependent. So it's not a good idea, and we 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:20.240 need to be rethinking that. And one of the things 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:24.160 I'm proposing is that the money that we spend for welfare, 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:27.480 individuals should be able to on their tax returns donate 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:31.360 where they want that money to go, more likely churches 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:34.000 and other nonprofits in their own area, where they're more 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:36.160 likely to be able to help the people and be 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:40.679 able to change people's behavior and habits so they become independent. Again, 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:42.600 this is a really, really big issue that our side 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:45.680 does not talk enough about. You know, at least I 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:48.720 know that the polls show that most Republicans and those 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:52.319 who are leaning Republican support Donald Trump in the primary. 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:55.839 And he did a great job as president against huge, 0:10:55.960 --> 0:11:00.679 huge headwinds from his own party often and I love 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:03.000 what he did as president, but I fear that he 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:06.000 cannot win in the general not for reasons that are 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:09.400 fair to him. There's something called Trump arrangement syndrome, and 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:12.520 maybe someday they'll develop a vaccine for it. But until then, 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:15.360 if you've lost friends because of Donald Trump, if you 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:17.880 can't talk to coworkers because of Donald Trump, if you 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:20.480 have a strained relationship with your family members because of 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:23.880 Donald Trump, Houston, We've got a problem. And that problem 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:25.840 is that there are a lot of people in this country, 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:29.600 swing voters, particularly suburban women, who would not vote for 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:32.160 forty five if he walked on water. In fact, if 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:34.440 he did, they say he can't swim. So, if that's 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:37.480 your analysis, and that's my analysis, you need somebody who's 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:42.200 got the America First agenda on borders, on judges, school choice, 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:45.040 on the economy, but for whom a sufficient number of 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:47.920 swing voters can pull that lever for that person. And 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:51.080 if that's your analysis and that's my analysis, then I'm 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:51.839 your man. 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:55.120 What did you learn about Gavin Newsome running against him 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:56.120 in the recall? 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:58.600 I learned that he does not want a debate. There 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:00.680 was a lot of pressure on need to debate my 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:03.480 fellow Republicans. I did not because I figured we'd be 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:05.640 in a circular firing squad and all they would do 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:08.800 is use the audio and the sound and hit ads. 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:11.720 And every time I was asked to debate my fellow Republicans, 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:14.240 I said, the person I wanted to debate is Gavin Newsom. 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:16.959 Gavin Newsom is not the problem. The fellow Republicans are 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.240 not the problem. We pretty much all know what the 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:22.040 problems are. The problem is Gavin Newsom. And what I 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.920 learned is that he was too cowardly to debate me. 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:28.640 I got out, spent about eight to one. In came 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:32.160 the unions, in came Hollywood, in came big Tech, and 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:34.959 they all said the same thing, Lisa. They said, stop 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:38.240 the Republican takeover. Nobody said, Gavin Newsom is doing a 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.760 great job on schools, doing a great job on crime, 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:42.760 doing a great job on the budget, on the cost 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:44.920 of living, on the fact that people are leaving. They 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:48.560 all said the same thing, stop Republican takeover. And they 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:50.960 showed a picture that I once took with Donald Trump 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:53.400 with both our thumbs up. A million times. I could 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:55.720 count the ridges on my fingers. They showed it so often. 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:58.480 Even though Donald Trump did not endorse me, I did 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:00.600 not seek his endorsement because I wanted it to be 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:03.480 a California race, but they turned it into a national 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:07.240 referendum on Donald Trump because that's how they believe they 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:07.560 can win. 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:08.440 Is it effective. 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:12.160 It's effective in California. They tried it in Virginia with 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:15.080 Terry mccalliff versus Glenn Younkin, and it blew up in 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:17.080 their faces for a couple of reasons. The first is 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:21.520 that Terry mccaulliff had a debate his opponent, Gavin Newsom, 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:24.280 was able to get away without debating me. And secondly, 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:26.800 the media in Virginia are a lot more fair than 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:30.000 the media here in California. I was called by the 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:34.160 La Times wait for it, the black face of white supremacy. 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:38.240 Another La Time colonists referred to my views as white supremacists. 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:41.040 When the race was over, I go back to radio 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:43.680 to finish out my contract and I invited the woman 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:46.280 they called me the blackface of white supremacy on my 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:49.000 show to explain why I'm the black face of white supremacy. 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:52.800 Not too surprisingly, she refused to come on. So the 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:57.040 media were very unfair. Many of virtually all the newspapers 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:01.680 in California both opposed the recall, called it anti democratic, 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:05.280 even though it's in our constitution. And they endorsed and 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:08.319 reindorsed Gavin Newsom, having endorsed him the first time. So 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:10.920 that's what I had to run against. And Republicans are 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:14.280 out numbered in California. Registered Republicans are out numbered by 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:18.280 non registered Republicans three to one. And again I got 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:21.080 out spin as I said, and there were campaign finance 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:24.400 limitations on me. There were no finance limitations at spending 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:27.320 limitations on Gavin Newsom. So he spent and spent and spent, 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.760 had to spend, by the way, fifty percent more per 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:33.280 voter to keep his job than he did to get 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:33.760 his job. 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:36.800 Do you think he ends up being the twenty twenty 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.000 four nominee or who do you think is gonna end 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:40.360 up being the Democrat nominee? 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:43.240 No, Lisa, If Joe Biden can fog up a mirror, 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:45.440 he will be the nominee. If he cannot do it, 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:48.880 then it will be Kamala Harris. Why because blacks are 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:52.360 the most loyal part of the Democrat base, and black 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:55.880 females are even more loyal. I saw poll nearly times 0:14:56.000 --> 0:15:00.440 a few months ago that showed among blacks, Harris had 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:03.600 his seventy percent approval. It wasn't broken down by gender, 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:05.880 but I assure you black females like her even more. 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:10.600 And she is perceived to be as having been dropkicked 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:13.320 in favor of somebody else, especially in favor of a 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:16.800 white male like Gavin Newsom or mayor Pete. Black women 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:19.880 won't vote Republican, but they'll be so angry they won't 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:22.880 vote at all. Thereby ensuring whoever it is we nominate 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:25.280 will win, so they can't afford to run that risk. 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:28.040 And they can put Gavin Newsom on the ticket with her, 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:31.200 because even he's more radical than she is. I mean, 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:33.920 this is a guy who signed that law that set 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:38.320 up that reparations panel. He's the guy that is mandating 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:41.960 an ethnic studies course for everybody who graduates from high school, 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:45.080 outlawing the sale of new gas powered cars. By twenty 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:49.120 thirty five, he supported two propositions that reduced a whole 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:53.120 bunch of crimes to non violent offenses, so that now 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:56.480 if you assault the police officer, that's a non violent offense. 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:59.640 Cyrial arson is a non violent offense. Rape of an 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:03.480 entire cicated a person is a non violent offense, all 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:07.280 because of measures that Gavin Newsom backed. He's the one 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:11.440 that mandates if you are a large toy retail store owner, 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:14.680 you have to have a gender neutral toy section. In 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:17.560 case your girl wants to buy a soldier or your 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:19.280 boy wants to buy a doll. They need to have 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:21.400 a safe space where they can do that. People have 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:24.120 no idea how radical this guy is, and once they do, 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:27.080 he'll be rejected. So I don't believe he'll ever be 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:29.240 the party's nominee, but he thinks he will be. 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:31.920 I've heard Michelle Obama's name be floated. 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:36.840 Zero chance. Michelle Obama wants to be liked. As you know, 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:39.080 once you decide to run for office, forty percent of 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:41.040 the American people are going to hate your guts, no 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.280 matter what party you are. She doesn't want that any 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:47.520 more than Oprah fret Winfrey wants that. No, and remember 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:52.600 how many times Michelle Obama complained about being first Lady. 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:55.960 Can you imagine her being president and being slammed after 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:58.800 she takes an issue here or there and being attacked personally. 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:01.240 She doesn't want that. So the only way you can 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:05.360 drop kick Kamala Harris is for another popular black female 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:08.600 who's a Democrat named somebody. We already named the only 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:11.200 two that could fit those shoes. So no, they're stuck 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:13.520 with her, and that's why they're trying to rehabilitate her. 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:16.000 I read the New York Times so you don't have to, 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:19.240 and I watch a lot of cn in MSNBCA hawk, 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:21.600 msnb HE hawks, which is what I call it, so 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:23.560 you don't have to. And all of a sudden, there 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:26.480 are all these positive stories about Kamala Harris because they've 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:31.280 got to rehabilitate her. Because even if you vote for 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:33.760 Joe Biden, you know that you're voting for Kamala Harris 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:35.959 because he's going to hand over the baton as soon 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:37.800 as he gets crossed the finishing line. It's just the 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:40.400 question of when he does so. And depending upon when 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:42.639 he does so, she could finish out his term and 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:45.000 then run two more times. So we could almost get 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:48.160 ten years of Kamala Harris. So that's what's at stake, 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:49.119 and that's why I'm running. 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:51.480 You don't think that Michelle would want the power? 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:55.399 No, No, I mean she you know what. Orthra Clonkite, 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:58.680 the long term anchor for CBS, once said, I'd love 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:01.320 to be a senator. I hate to have to run. 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:03.040 So if you could figure out some sort of way 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:05.080 of appointing her, I'm sure she loved the job, but 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:06.760 she wouldn't want to go through what I'm going through, 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:09.600 being called all sorts of names, having to raise money, 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:13.080 having to defend yourself, having to debate, have people distort 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:17.040 your views. She doesn't want that. Politics is a rough, tough, 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:20.280 ugly business, and being first lady was one thing, and 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:22.480 that was hard enough. She complained about being first lady 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:25.159 all the time. I can't imagine that she has a 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:29.160 personality and the stomach and the requisite thickness of skin 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:30.960 to be president, to run for presidents. 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:37.399 Take a quick commercial break more with Larry Elder. You 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:39.600 talked about some of the things that people said about 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:41.960 you when you ran. What did you think when you 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:45.040 read a column that said you are the black face 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:48.320 of white supremacy? I imagine that that was one a 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:49.119 little confusing. 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:51.560 Then two, what the heck? 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:53.640 You're laughing, Lisa, And that's what I did. I laughed 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:55.440 at it. I mean, how do you take that seriously? 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:59.320 Because I'm pro life, because I support strong borders, because 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:03.119 I support choice in education, because I think America is 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:06.000 over taxed and overregulated. I'm the black face of white 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:10.680 supremacy because I denied the lie that America is systemically racist. 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:13.240