1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: There's no secret that states like California have turned into 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: left wing dystopia's So why not leave? Why are Republicans 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: or even independents staying. They have to deal with crime, 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: they have to deal with wope, nonsense, they have to 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: deal with homelessness, a variety of issues that they're facing 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: as a result of left wing policies driven by Governor 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom. 8 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 2: So why not leave? 9 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: We'll talk to one man who wrote a book about 10 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: trying to save California. He's out with a new book 11 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: called Asgo's California, My Mission to Rescue the Golden State 12 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: and save the nation. He also decided to challenge Gavin 13 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: Newsom in the twenty twenty one recall. His name is 14 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: Larry Elder. 15 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 2: You know him. 16 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: He's a radio host, best selling author, and commentator. We're 17 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: going to talk to him about his decision to stay 18 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: in California, Why he's doing it, Does he really think 19 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,639 Speaker 1: there's even the potential of change there. We'll also get 20 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: into a whole host of other issues. He's also decided 21 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: to throw his name in the hat for the twenty 22 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: twenty four presidential race. We'll get into that and a 23 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: bunch of other issues that are just plaguing the nation. 24 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: Don't miss this interview with Larry Elder. Larry Elder, It's 25 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: an honor to have you on the show. I've not 26 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: had you on I don't think. I don't even know 27 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 1: have we met. I don't know if we've met in person. 28 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: I've followed your work. I obviously know who you are. 29 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: I follow you on Twitter. It's an honor to have 30 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: you on the show. 31 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: We've not met in person, but you know I followed 32 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 3: you as well. Thank you very much for having me. 33 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. 34 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll have to change that. I hope to meet 35 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 2: you in person someday. 36 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 3: Really pretty charming, Lisa. It'll be a treat. 37 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: That's you know what, Larry, That is what I've heard. 38 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: So I've only heard great things about you. So, you know, Larry, 39 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: we look at you know. I left New York right. 40 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: I was in New York for three years and left 41 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: during COVID. Just saw the direction things were going in 42 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: and said, you know what, I might still have to 43 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: go up for work unfortunately, but I live in Florida. 44 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: Now you're still in California. You know, why not just leave? 45 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 3: Well, this is my hometown. I was born here. My 46 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 3: father came here right before the war World War two, 47 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: and then when the war was over, he was in 48 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 3: the military, he was in the Marines. He came out 49 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 3: here because he thought it was less racist in the South, 50 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 3: which is where he's from. So all my roots are here, 51 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 3: my pastor is here, my friends are here, and I'm 52 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 3: one of those who feels Lisa at some point like 53 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 3: a drug addict. The voters are going to hit rock 54 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 3: bottom and begin to rethink how they've been voting. Democrats 55 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 3: have controlled this state forever. We've got supermajorities of Democrats 56 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 3: in the Assembly and in the Senate, the two chambers 57 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 3: of our legislature, and they passed one job killing bill 58 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 3: after another, one brain dead bill after another, and then 59 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 3: we have a left wing governor who signs them. We've 60 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 3: got crime, we've got a homelessness problem. Our schools are 61 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 3: right near the bottom of all fifty states. People are 62 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: leaving the state for the first time in one hundred 63 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 3: and seventy years. The average price of a home in 64 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 3: California is one hundred and seventy five percent above the 65 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 3: national average. We have poor fire management, poor water management. 66 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 3: At some point, you think that the voters are going 67 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 3: to say uncle, but they don't. But sooner or later 68 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 3: they've got to. We've got a we've gone from one 69 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 3: hundred billion dollar budget surplus that gavinknews and bragged about 70 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 3: now to about a thirty billion dollar government deficit and 71 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 3: we have, wait for it, a one point five trillion 72 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 3: dollar underfunded pension liability. So sooner or later, the voters 73 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 3: are going to have to rethink their assumptions. And I hope, 74 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 3: I hope, I still I hope I'm around when that happens. 75 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: You know, I mean laying that all out, I mean, 76 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: it's bad, you know, I mean, you see you know videos, 77 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: it just looks like a dystopia. You've got, you know, 78 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: homeless people walking around doing drugs in the middle of 79 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: the streets, pooping in the middle of the streets. 80 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: So it's like, what does rock Bottom look like? 81 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 3: Well, that's a good question. I was just reading today 82 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: in the La Times had a front page article about 83 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 3: what the new mayor is doing to solve the homelessness problem. 84 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 3: And what she's done is she's offered them somewhere to go, 85 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 3: and if they don't go, you can't force them. So 86 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 3: until and unless voters have come to the point where 87 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 3: you are not going to be on the streets. Either 88 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: you're going to jail, or you're going to go to 89 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 3: a bed that we have somewhere, or are you going 90 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 3: to go to rehab one of the three. But you 91 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 3: will not be allowed to remain on the streets until 92 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 3: the voters are ready to do that, and until the 93 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 3: courts are ready to enforce those laws that require them 94 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 3: to do one of those three things. We're going to 95 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 3: have these problems. And again, sooner or later, it's going 96 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 3: to get so bad that I believe the voters are 97 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 3: going to begin to rethink their assumptions. 98 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: When did you start seeing the state take a nose dive? 99 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: But I imagine COVID the state's response to COVID know 100 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: led to a lot of the downturn that we're seeing now. 101 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 3: It accelerated it, certainly, but no, it's been bad for 102 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 3: a long time. We spend half of our budget goes 103 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 3: to the schools K through twelve, and again, as I mentioned, 104 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 3: they're near the bottom. Seventy five percent of black boys 105 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,119 Speaker 3: in California can neither read nor do math at grade level. 106 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 3: And then, of course COVID can along and Gavin Newsom 107 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 3: shut down the state in a more severe way than 108 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 3: did any of the other forty nine governors. A third 109 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 3: of all restaurants, many of them are owned by mom 110 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 3: and poppers who are black and brown. The very people 111 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 3: that people on the left claim that they care about 112 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 3: are now gone forever. We have rising crime in La 113 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 3: rising crime in the Bay Area, rising crime in San Diego, 114 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 3: all because of the soft on crime das, all of 115 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 3: whom Gavin Newsom is either publicly supported or, in the 116 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 3: case of George Gasco in the soft on crime DA 117 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 3: of La County. He appointed him to the DA's job 118 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 3: in the Bay Area, and then Gascon comes down here 119 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: and runs to get selected. So things are getting worse 120 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 3: and worse and worse. In my opinion, we've lost about 121 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 3: five hundred thousand people in California in the last three 122 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 3: or four years, and Gavin Newsom is running around the 123 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 3: country thinking that someday he's going to become president. It's outrageous. Again. 124 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 3: I think that sooner or later the voters have to 125 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 3: begin to rethink their assumptions. I just hope i'm around 126 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 3: when they begin to do so. 127 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: I really don't think enough can be said about just 128 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: the damage these Sorow supported das have done in so 129 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: many places around the country. I mean, it really is 130 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: just devastating how much wreckage one man has done in America. 131 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 3: Well, that's right, and that's one of my campaign issues 132 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 3: when I decided to run for president. That's one of 133 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 3: the things I'm going to be talking about. One of 134 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 3: the first things I'm going to do when I get 135 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 3: to the White House. Lisa assigned an executive order that 136 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 3: cuts off the money to these counties where the soft 137 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 3: on crime das exists, federal money because the number one 138 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 3: responsibility of government is to protect people in property and 139 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 3: they're not doing it. One of the things I'm proposing 140 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: in Iowa, Iowa was the first contest the caucus is 141 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 3: going to be late January early February, is I'm proposing 142 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 3: to the Iowa legislature that they set up a commission, 143 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 3: as they've done in Georgia, mostly of judges, so that 144 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 3: when you have these soft on crime das, and they've 145 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 3: got one in de Wine, Iowa who's not doing the job, 146 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 3: that DA can be recalled. Again. This is just and again, 147 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 3: the people that are most hurt by all police are 148 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 3: the very black and brown people that people on the 149 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 3: left purport to care about. This lie that the police 150 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 3: are engaging in systemic racism is causing the police to 151 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 3: pull back. It's called the Ferguson effect or the George 152 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 3: Floyd effect. And there are hundreds, if not thousands, of 153 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 3: what one researcher calls excess deaths, in other words, people 154 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 3: who are dead who wouldn't be dead if the police 155 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 3: were doing their normal proactive policing. And again, the majority 156 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 3: of these people who are now dead are the black 157 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: and brown people that people on the left claim that 158 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 3: they care about. 159 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: Well, it has just been distorted into such a lie 160 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: or just the racial dynamics play such a strong role 161 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: in the narrative of these things. I mean, you look 162 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: at the Jordan Neely Daniel Penny situation. I mean, honestly, 163 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: if Daniel Penny wasn't white, I really don't think it 164 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: would have gotten the kind of attention it has, or 165 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: he wouldn't be getting the kind of criticism he's gotten. 166 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: To be honest, well. 167 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 3: I agree, and that's what the left, the media of 168 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 3: the Democrats to do. They push this argument that America 169 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 3: is systemically racist. The reason they do it is because 170 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 3: they want black voters to be angry, they'll vote ninety 171 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 3: ninety five percent for the Democratic Party. That's one of 172 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 3: the reasons I'm running to refute this lie that America 173 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 3: is systemically racist. The other reason I'm running is because 174 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 3: we don't talk about the ten thousand pound elephant in 175 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 3: the room, Lisa, and that is the epidemic of fatherlessness. 176 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 3: Seventy percent of black kids into the world without a 177 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 3: father in the home, married to the mother, and the 178 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 3: odds are that when you are raised without a father, 179 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 3: a much higher chance of being poor, of dropping out 180 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 3: of school, of ending up in jail. And we don't 181 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 3: talk enough about the fact that the welfare state has 182 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 3: over the last fifty to sixty years, incentivized women to 183 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 3: marry the government and incentivize men to abandon their financial 184 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 3: and more responsibility. And that's one of the reasons I'm 185 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 3: running and asking people to go to Elder for President 186 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 3: dot com throw something in the tip jar so I 187 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 3: get on that debate stage in Milwaukee, Lisa, and say 188 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 3: some of the things to the country that I've said 189 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 3: to you. I've got to raise forty I've got to 190 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 3: get donation from forty thousand individuals and two hundred out 191 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 3: of each of twenty states in order to qualify that 192 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 3: first debate. And once I get up there, as far 193 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 3: as I'm concerned, it's game on. Hold my beer, Hold 194 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 3: my beer. 195 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: I like that, you know, I do think the fatherlessness 196 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: is a huge issue. I'm glad that you know you 197 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: brought that up, and it is just so important. But 198 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: I mean, if you really think about the Left wants 199 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: women to be married to the government, right, they don't 200 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 1: want fathers. I really don't believe the left one's fathers involved, 201 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: because they want people who are beholden to the government. 202 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: And so they're trying to dismantle you know, family, dismantle faith, 203 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: dismantle anything that gives you roots. They want you susceptible 204 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: to needing the government, and you know, being dependent on 205 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 1: the government. 206 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 3: Whether that's their intent or whether it's the effect, it 207 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 3: really doesn't matter. The effect is to make people more 208 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 3: dependent upon government. The La Times, I think was in 209 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 3: the mid eighties, did a poll of people who were 210 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 3: poor and ask them whether welfare was an intermediate step 211 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 3: to get you to a state of independence or whether 212 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 3: it was a crutch that made you dependent on the 213 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 3: government more of them, Lisa, it was a crutch that 214 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 3: made you dependent, than said it was an intermediary, a 215 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 3: step to get you to become independent. So people who 216 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 3: are on welfare are aware that it's a trap. Even 217 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 3: FDR who launched the New Deal, even he referred to 218 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 3: welfare as a quote subtle, narcotic, close quote that makes 219 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 3: people dependent. So it's not a good idea, and we 220 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 3: need to be rethinking that. And one of the things 221 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 3: I'm proposing is that the money that we spend for welfare, 222 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 3: individuals should be able to on their tax returns donate 223 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 3: where they want that money to go, more likely churches 224 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 3: and other nonprofits in their own area, where they're more 225 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 3: likely to be able to help the people and be 226 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 3: able to change people's behavior and habits so they become independent. Again, 227 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 3: this is a really, really big issue that our side 228 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 3: does not talk enough about. You know, at least I 229 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 3: know that the polls show that most Republicans and those 230 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 3: who are leaning Republican support Donald Trump in the primary. 231 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 3: And he did a great job as president against huge, 232 00:10:55,960 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 3: huge headwinds from his own party often and I love 233 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 3: what he did as president, but I fear that he 234 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 3: cannot win in the general not for reasons that are 235 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 3: fair to him. There's something called Trump arrangement syndrome, and 236 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 3: maybe someday they'll develop a vaccine for it. But until then, 237 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 3: if you've lost friends because of Donald Trump, if you 238 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 3: can't talk to coworkers because of Donald Trump, if you 239 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 3: have a strained relationship with your family members because of 240 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 3: Donald Trump, Houston, We've got a problem. And that problem 241 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 3: is that there are a lot of people in this country, 242 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 3: swing voters, particularly suburban women, who would not vote for 243 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 3: forty five if he walked on water. In fact, if 244 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 3: he did, they say he can't swim. So, if that's 245 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 3: your analysis, and that's my analysis, you need somebody who's 246 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 3: got the America First agenda on borders, on judges, school choice, 247 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 3: on the economy, but for whom a sufficient number of 248 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 3: swing voters can pull that lever for that person. And 249 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 3: if that's your analysis and that's my analysis, then I'm 250 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 3: your man. 251 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: What did you learn about Gavin Newsome running against him 252 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: in the recall? 253 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 3: I learned that he does not want a debate. There 254 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 3: was a lot of pressure on need to debate my 255 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 3: fellow Republicans. I did not because I figured we'd be 256 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 3: in a circular firing squad and all they would do 257 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 3: is use the audio and the sound and hit ads. 258 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 3: And every time I was asked to debate my fellow Republicans, 259 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 3: I said, the person I wanted to debate is Gavin Newsom. 260 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom is not the problem. The fellow Republicans are 261 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 3: not the problem. We pretty much all know what the 262 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 3: problems are. The problem is Gavin Newsom. And what I 263 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 3: learned is that he was too cowardly to debate me. 264 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 3: I got out, spent about eight to one. In came 265 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 3: the unions, in came Hollywood, in came big Tech, and 266 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 3: they all said the same thing, Lisa. They said, stop 267 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 3: the Republican takeover. Nobody said, Gavin Newsom is doing a 268 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 3: great job on schools, doing a great job on crime, 269 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 3: doing a great job on the budget, on the cost 270 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 3: of living, on the fact that people are leaving. They 271 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 3: all said the same thing, stop Republican takeover. And they 272 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 3: showed a picture that I once took with Donald Trump 273 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 3: with both our thumbs up. A million times. I could 274 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 3: count the ridges on my fingers. They showed it so often. 275 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 3: Even though Donald Trump did not endorse me, I did 276 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 3: not seek his endorsement because I wanted it to be 277 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 3: a California race, but they turned it into a national 278 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 3: referendum on Donald Trump because that's how they believe they 279 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 3: can win. 280 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 2: Is it effective. 281 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 3: It's effective in California. They tried it in Virginia with 282 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 3: Terry mccalliff versus Glenn Younkin, and it blew up in 283 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 3: their faces for a couple of reasons. The first is 284 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 3: that Terry mccaulliff had a debate his opponent, Gavin Newsom, 285 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 3: was able to get away without debating me. And secondly, 286 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 3: the media in Virginia are a lot more fair than 287 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 3: the media here in California. I was called by the 288 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 3: La Times wait for it, the black face of white supremacy. 289 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 3: Another La Time colonists referred to my views as white supremacists. 290 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 3: When the race was over, I go back to radio 291 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 3: to finish out my contract and I invited the woman 292 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 3: they called me the blackface of white supremacy on my 293 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 3: show to explain why I'm the black face of white supremacy. 294 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 3: Not too surprisingly, she refused to come on. So the 295 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 3: media were very unfair. Many of virtually all the newspapers 296 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 3: in California both opposed the recall, called it anti democratic, 297 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 3: even though it's in our constitution. And they endorsed and 298 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 3: reindorsed Gavin Newsom, having endorsed him the first time. So 299 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 3: that's what I had to run against. And Republicans are 300 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 3: out numbered in California. Registered Republicans are out numbered by 301 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 3: non registered Republicans three to one. And again I got 302 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 3: out spin as I said, and there were campaign finance 303 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 3: limitations on me. There were no finance limitations at spending 304 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 3: limitations on Gavin Newsom. So he spent and spent and spent, 305 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 3: had to spend, by the way, fifty percent more per 306 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 3: voter to keep his job than he did to get 307 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 3: his job. 308 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: Do you think he ends up being the twenty twenty 309 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: four nominee or who do you think is gonna end 310 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: up being the Democrat nominee? 311 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 3: No, Lisa, If Joe Biden can fog up a mirror, 312 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 3: he will be the nominee. If he cannot do it, 313 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 3: then it will be Kamala Harris. Why because blacks are 314 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 3: the most loyal part of the Democrat base, and black 315 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 3: females are even more loyal. I saw poll nearly times 316 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 3: a few months ago that showed among blacks, Harris had 317 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 3: his seventy percent approval. It wasn't broken down by gender, 318 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 3: but I assure you black females like her even more. 319 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 3: And she is perceived to be as having been dropkicked 320 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 3: in favor of somebody else, especially in favor of a 321 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 3: white male like Gavin Newsom or mayor Pete. Black women 322 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 3: won't vote Republican, but they'll be so angry they won't 323 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 3: vote at all. Thereby ensuring whoever it is we nominate 324 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 3: will win, so they can't afford to run that risk. 325 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 3: And they can put Gavin Newsom on the ticket with her, 326 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 3: because even he's more radical than she is. I mean, 327 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 3: this is a guy who signed that law that set 328 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 3: up that reparations panel. He's the guy that is mandating 329 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 3: an ethnic studies course for everybody who graduates from high school, 330 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 3: outlawing the sale of new gas powered cars. By twenty 331 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 3: thirty five, he supported two propositions that reduced a whole 332 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 3: bunch of crimes to non violent offenses, so that now 333 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 3: if you assault the police officer, that's a non violent offense. 334 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 3: Cyrial arson is a non violent offense. Rape of an 335 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 3: entire cicated a person is a non violent offense, all 336 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 3: because of measures that Gavin Newsom backed. He's the one 337 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 3: that mandates if you are a large toy retail store owner, 338 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 3: you have to have a gender neutral toy section. In 339 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 3: case your girl wants to buy a soldier or your 340 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 3: boy wants to buy a doll. They need to have 341 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 3: a safe space where they can do that. People have 342 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 3: no idea how radical this guy is, and once they do, 343 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 3: he'll be rejected. So I don't believe he'll ever be 344 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 3: the party's nominee, but he thinks he will be. 345 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 2: I've heard Michelle Obama's name be floated. 346 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 3: Zero chance. Michelle Obama wants to be liked. As you know, 347 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 3: once you decide to run for office, forty percent of 348 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 3: the American people are going to hate your guts, no 349 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 3: matter what party you are. She doesn't want that any 350 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 3: more than Oprah fret Winfrey wants that. No, and remember 351 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 3: how many times Michelle Obama complained about being first Lady. 352 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 3: Can you imagine her being president and being slammed after 353 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 3: she takes an issue here or there and being attacked personally. 354 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 3: She doesn't want that. So the only way you can 355 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 3: drop kick Kamala Harris is for another popular black female 356 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 3: who's a Democrat named somebody. We already named the only 357 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 3: two that could fit those shoes. So no, they're stuck 358 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 3: with her, and that's why they're trying to rehabilitate her. 359 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 3: I read the New York Times so you don't have to, 360 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 3: and I watch a lot of cn in MSNBCA hawk, 361 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 3: msnb HE hawks, which is what I call it, so 362 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 3: you don't have to. And all of a sudden, there 363 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 3: are all these positive stories about Kamala Harris because they've 364 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 3: got to rehabilitate her. Because even if you vote for 365 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 3: Joe Biden, you know that you're voting for Kamala Harris 366 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,959 Speaker 3: because he's going to hand over the baton as soon 367 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 3: as he gets crossed the finishing line. It's just the 368 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 3: question of when he does so. And depending upon when 369 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 3: he does so, she could finish out his term and 370 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 3: then run two more times. So we could almost get 371 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 3: ten years of Kamala Harris. So that's what's at stake, 372 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 3: and that's why I'm running. 373 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 2: You don't think that Michelle would want the power? 374 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 3: No, No, I mean she you know what. Orthra Clonkite, 375 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 3: the long term anchor for CBS, once said, I'd love 376 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 3: to be a senator. I hate to have to run. 377 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 3: So if you could figure out some sort of way 378 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 3: of appointing her, I'm sure she loved the job, but 379 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 3: she wouldn't want to go through what I'm going through, 380 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 3: being called all sorts of names, having to raise money, 381 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 3: having to defend yourself, having to debate, have people distort 382 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 3: your views. She doesn't want that. Politics is a rough, tough, 383 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 3: ugly business, and being first lady was one thing, and 384 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 3: that was hard enough. She complained about being first lady 385 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 3: all the time. I can't imagine that she has a 386 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 3: personality and the stomach and the requisite thickness of skin 387 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 3: to be president, to run for presidents. 388 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: Take a quick commercial break more with Larry Elder. You 389 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: talked about some of the things that people said about 390 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: you when you ran. What did you think when you 391 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: read a column that said you are the black face 392 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: of white supremacy? I imagine that that was one a 393 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: little confusing. 394 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: Then two, what the heck? 395 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 3: You're laughing, Lisa, And that's what I did. I laughed 396 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 3: at it. I mean, how do you take that seriously? 397 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 3: Because I'm pro life, because I support strong borders, because 398 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 3: I support choice in education, because I think America is 399 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 3: over taxed and overregulated. I'm the black face of white 400 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 3: supremacy because I denied the lie that America is systemically racist. 401 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 3: It is not systemically racist. The only majority of white 402 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 3: country in the world is ever elected a black person 403 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 3: for president. There's a Harvard sociologist. He's a left wing guy, 404 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 3: as all sociologists are voted twice for Obama. In the nineties, 405 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 3: he wrote, Black Americans are the best fed, best house, 406 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 3: best educated, most prosperous blacks in all of the countries 407 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 3: of the world, including all of those of Africa. Why 408 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 3: these posed people as we speak, Lisa, Haitians are lining 409 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 3: up to get a lottery, to get a shot and 410 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 3: coming too America because America is systemically racist. Nonsense. The 411 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 3: three largest cities in America today, New York, La, Chicago 412 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 3: all have black mayors. How does that happen in a 413 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 3: country that systemically racists? And in twenty sixteen, the city 414 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 3: of over one hundred that most voted for Donald tr 415 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 3: Trump was Abilene, Texas. Eighty five percent voted for Donald Trump. 416 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 3: The city is one hundred and forty years old. Guess 417 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 3: which city of one hundred and forty years of age 418 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 3: after the election of Donald Trump, voted for its first 419 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 3: black mayor, Abilene, Texas. How does that happen? It's a 420 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 3: lie that America is systemically racist, and all it's doing 421 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 3: is putting Americans against Americans and causing young black people 422 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 3: not to work as hard as they should work, because, 423 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 3: after all, what's the point am I putting in all 424 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 3: these man hours on math and on reading when sooner 425 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 3: or later some white races are going to stop me 426 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 3: from being successful. It is a lie. It's a lie 427 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 3: that's putting Americans against each other, and it's hurting the 428 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 3: very people that people on the left again purport to 429 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 3: care about, primarily black people. 430 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: Well in the Atlantic recently, Lara, I don't know if 431 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: you saw this. The Atlantic recently written an article about 432 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: how Latinos can be white supremacists as well. Now, so 433 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: we're really expanding. I guess the category is of white 434 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: supremacy in America. 435 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 2: But it bags the question why do they want to 436 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 2: push this narrative though? 437 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: Like, why are they intentionally trying to hit people against 438 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: each other on racial lines? 439 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 2: What's beneath it? 440 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 3: I think some percentage of them actually believe it they've 441 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 3: been taught that, they've been spoon fitted by the media, 442 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 3: by Hollywood, by academia. But I think on the part 443 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 3: of politicians, people like Nancy Pelosi, like Chuck Schumer, oh, 444 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,719 Speaker 3: they know it's a lie. And again they're doing it 445 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 3: because they want black people not to focus on crime, 446 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 3: not to focus on schools, not to focus on being 447 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 3: sufficiently competitive so they can compete in our digital age. 448 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 3: They want black people to focus on social justice and equity, 449 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 3: however you define that. And they've been able to successfully 450 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 3: convince black people that they wear the white at in 451 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 3: the fight for social justice, and these dastardly Republicans over there, 452 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 3: they wear the black at. So go in there and 453 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 3: pull that lever for us. That's why they do it. 454 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 3: They do it for power. 455 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: Claire, what concerns you? 456 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously there are a whole host of issues 457 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: that we're facing as a country. But what concerns you 458 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: the most about where we are right now is a 459 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: nation the spending. 460 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 3: You know, this deal that McCarthy thought he reached with 461 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 3: Schumer would have put a little band aid, it would 462 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 3: have slowed down a little bit of the spending. But 463 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 3: even he concedes in the two years right back to 464 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 3: where we are in nineteen hundred, Lisa, at all three levels, federal, state, 465 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 3: and local government took less than nine percent from the 466 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 3: American people. Today, government at all three levels takes about 467 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 3: thirty two percent, and if you put a price on mandates, 468 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 3: government takes almost half of what the American people produce. 469 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 3: The only way to stop this is through an amendment 470 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 3: to the Constitution that fixes spending to a certain percentage 471 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 3: of the GDP, with exceptions for war and for a 472 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 3: natural disaster. Other than that, both parties spind my favorite 473 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 3: president of my lifetime, Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan ran to 474 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 3: eliminate the Department of Education. When he left, the department 475 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 3: was bigger than ever and government was around thirty percent larger. 476 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 3: Both parties spin you don't get elected by saying I'm 477 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 3: going to take this away from you. I'm going to 478 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 3: end this program, and I'll use the word to describe 479 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 3: the so called entitlement's Lisa, and that word is unsustainable. 480 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 3: Barack Obama once use that word in describing the entitlements programs, 481 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 3: as did Bill Clinton. But any Republican who mentions it, 482 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 3: then they do the commercial and they'll show you with 483 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 3: Granny in a wheelchair, throwing her over the cliff. So 484 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 3: the only way to truly reform these programs is to 485 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 3: force people to reform them, and the only way to 486 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 3: do that is to pass a law that requires you 487 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 3: to reform them. So that you're put in a room, 488 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 3: you lock the door, and Democrats Republicans don't come out 489 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 3: until the budget is balanced and it has been limited 490 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 3: to that percentage that the law now requires them to 491 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 3: limit it to, and then they can say, the devil 492 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 3: made me do it. Please still elect me because I 493 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 3: want to get reelected. Otherwise we're going to kick this 494 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 3: problem down the road, and younger people are going to 495 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 3: have to have their taxes raised to pay for the 496 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 3: unsustainable Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid and now Obamacare that 497 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 3: they're going to be responsible for down the road. Yeah. 498 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like both parties spend a ton of money. 499 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: It seems to be more of the argument about what 500 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: we spend an enormous amount of money on is really 501 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: where the argument comes down. 502 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 3: And that's right. When it's Democrats spending, we call it 503 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 3: port and we spend it we call it investments in infrastructure. 504 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 3: When Ronald Reagan came in, you know, he promised to 505 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 3: reduce the science of government, and a whole bunch of 506 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 3: young turks started working for him, one of whom was 507 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 3: a guy named David Stockman. He was his head of 508 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 3: office and management and budget, and he was there for 509 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 3: a few years, and he wrote a book and described 510 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 3: program after program after program on the chopping block income 511 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 3: whoever it was who were going to be hurt by that, 512 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 3: and then the administration backed away. He wrote a book 513 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 3: called The Triumph of American Politics where he outlined all 514 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 3: these programs that should have been slash, that were not 515 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 3: only slash, but when he left they were bigger than before. 516 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 3: And that's because, as I said earlier, you don't run 517 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 3: for office. You don't win by taking things away from people. 518 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 3: Ronald Reagan says, once you have a program, if it breathes, 519 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 3: tax it, if it still breaths, regulate it, if it 520 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 3: still breaths, subsidize it, and you cannot kill the program 521 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 3: with a stick once it's been started. I can't think 522 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 3: of very many programs at all that have been started 523 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 3: and that have been eliminated down the road, even though 524 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 3: we don't longer need them. Take a look at Amtrak. 525 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 3: Take a look at PBS. When I was a kid, 526 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 3: there were handful of stations. Now we have five hundred stations. 527 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 3: We still have PBS. Why Tennessee Valley Authority was set 528 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 3: up in order to provide electricity to the poor rural South. Well, 529 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 3: the South is not poor anymore. We still have the 530 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 3: TVA that's still run by government. 531 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: Why. 532 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 3: I can think of a whole bunch of programs that 533 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 3: ought not exist that will not exist if you force 534 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 3: both politicians to limit spending to a fixed percentage of 535 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 3: the GDP. 536 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: I agree with that, but you would have to get 537 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: it done through Congress. Right, So how would that. 538 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 3: Either that or convention of states so that you can 539 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 3: then propose amendments to the Constitution. Look, it's a long process, 540 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 3: and that's one of the things that you enjoy as president. 541 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 3: You have the bully pulpit. That's probably the most powerful 542 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 3: part of being president that a nuclear bomb, and get 543 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 3: up there and talk about what I've just talked to 544 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 3: you about constantly, and so that the voters are motivated 545 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 3: to put pressure on their local politicians. So either Congress 546 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 3: does some sort of amendment or you do a convention 547 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 3: of state. So that they do the amendment. But either way, 548 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 3: the American people are going to have to be educated 549 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 3: enough to know that this has to happen. I remember 550 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 3: when Ross Prow for a while was talking about Debton deficit. 551 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 3: I remember him buying time on one of the major 552 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 3: networks to show up these little graphs where he pointed 553 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 3: out the problem we're having with our Debton deficit. The 554 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 3: next day after he did one of these programs, Lisa, 555 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 3: I'm in the office building where I work, and I 556 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 3: saw two janitors talking about the Debton deficit. So you 557 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 3: educate people to explain to people so that they recognize 558 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 3: it's in their best interests and they will put pressure 559 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 3: on their local politicians and lo and behold. You can 560 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 3: then move the needle. 561 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: Quick break more with Larry. You'd mentioned some of the 562 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 1: stuff Gavin Newsomone's doing with kids and on the transgender issue. 563 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: Why is the left so dead set to push this 564 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: on young people. 565 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 3: Well, that's their latest way of showing how heartless and 566 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 3: cold and insensitive Republicans are. It's their new climate change. 567 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 3: How many transgendered people are there? Zero points zero five 568 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 3: percent something like that. So now you're defining me by 569 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 3: how are we are how I react to zero points, 570 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 3: zero five percent of the population. It's their new way 571 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 3: of you say the wrong thing, you say something in 572 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,959 Speaker 3: sensitive and low and behold, you're a biggit. They can 573 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 3: put you into category and that's what they do for power. 574 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: Our Republicans astute enough to make the case that it 575 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: is actually evil and wrong to do this to kids, 576 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: to chop a young girl's breast off or a young 577 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 1: boy's penis off, or to put them on puberty blockers 578 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: that are going to lead them to infertility and a 579 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 1: lifelong of care and complications from surgeries. 580 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 2: I mean, that shouldn't be a hard argument to sell. 581 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 3: It isn't hard argument to sell. And I close to 582 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 3: me show the majority of people feel the way you 583 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 3: feel and the way I feel about this issue. It's 584 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 3: just a matter of explaining it and explaining why it 585 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 3: is that Democrats push this. They're pushing it again to 586 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 3: define you as a bigot, as transphobic, as anti trans people. 587 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 3: You're just a Republican bigot. I saw a poll a 588 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 3: few years ago, Lisa, sixty one percent of Democrats believe 589 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 3: Republicans are racist, slash bigoted, slash sexist over eighty percent 590 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 3: believe that Donald Trump is a racist. And this is 591 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 3: what they do. They put you in a category because 592 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 3: they don't want to have a conversation. The former executive 593 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 3: editor of The New York Times, his name was Dean Backay. 594 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 3: He once said this in one of these unguarded candid moments. 595 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 3: The left, as a general rule, does not want to 596 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 3: hear thoughtful disagreement. I repeat, the left, as a general rule, 597 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 3: does not want to hear thoughtful disagreement. This is what 598 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 3: the executive editor of The New York Times admitted about 599 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 3: left wing people. And that's where we are in this country. 600 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 3: Rather than have a conversation along the lines of what 601 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 3: you just now did about the downside of allowing kids 602 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 3: to change their sex, they're just call you a name, 603 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 3: call you a bigot, and they move on. That's what 604 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 3: the left does in this in this country. And that's 605 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 3: one of the reasons why I believe I can effectively 606 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 3: deal with this. My mother was a lifelong Democrat, my 607 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 3: dad a lifelong Republican, and they used to argue across 608 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 3: the kitchen table about all sorts of issues. Nobody called 609 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 3: anybody a fascist, Nobody called anybody a racist. Nobody called 610 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 3: anybody a Nazi. Nobody said you only care about the rich, 611 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 3: you don't care about the poor. They debated issues with passion, 612 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 3: but they did it civilly. I don't know why we 613 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 3: cannot do that in this country. 614 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 2: Well I wish we could. 615 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: You know, definitely doesn't seem like that's the direction we're 616 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: heading in, but you know, I wish that was the case. 617 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: You know, I'm always interested in how people get into 618 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: their careers. So you practice law for a little bit 619 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: after going to the University of Michigan law school, why 620 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: switch to media? You know what was sort of I mean, 621 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: obviously you've been tremendously successful, but kind of what shifted 622 00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: gears in the sense of, you know what. 623 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 2: The heck with the law, I don't want to do 624 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 2: something else. 625 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 3: Well, I practiced law for a little less than three years, 626 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 3: and I started a little business placing lawyers with law 627 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 3: firms and corporations. I was a legal headhunter. And one 628 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 3: day I'm watching a television and I'm watching an interview 629 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 3: and I thought the interviewer was doing a bad job, 630 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 3: and I started yelling at the television set. And my 631 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,239 Speaker 3: girlfriend said, if you think he can do a better job. 632 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 3: Why don't you do it? I said, okay, fine, I 633 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 3: picked up the phone, Lisa. I taught myself into getting 634 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 3: a job at a PBS station where I co hosted 635 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 3: the show, and they liked me so much. I ended 636 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 3: up hosting that show, and then I got another show 637 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 3: for the local Fox affiliate called the Larry olda show. 638 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 3: How I got into radio. I began writing op ed 639 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 3: pieces for the newspaper. They published one this is about 640 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 3: almost forty years ago, where I said racism was no 641 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 3: longer a major factor in American life. I get a 642 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 3: phone call from producer of a radio show. He said, 643 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 3: I've read your article today. Are you black? And I 644 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 3: said I've been told? And he said, you don't believe 645 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 3: racism is a major problem in America. I said, no, 646 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 3: I do. He said, when you come on my guys 647 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 3: show tonight and talk about it. I said sure. I 648 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 3: was on the show for an hour, and Cleveland is 649 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 3: almost fifty percent black. So most of the callers were black, 650 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 3: and they were not having it. They were calling me 651 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 3: and Uncle Tom and a foot shuffling Uncle Tom, and 652 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 3: a bug eyed Uncle Tom. One of them even called 653 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 3: me the Antichrist, and one even call me the name 654 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 3: that you call a black person when you really want 655 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 3: to hurt his feelings, Republican. So I did that for 656 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 3: an hour, and I said to myself, I'll never do 657 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 3: that again. I get back home and back to my 658 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 3: office brother, and the phone is ringing and it's the 659 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 3: station manager of that radio station. He said, you were amazing. 660 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 3: I said I was. He said, oh my god, you 661 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 3: have a good speaking voice. You took difficult position, you 662 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 3: defended them without losing your temper or your sense of humor. 663 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 3: Have you ever thought about doing talk radio? And I 664 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 3: said no. He said, I've got a guy you go 665 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 3: on vacation. Will you sit in for him? And I 666 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 3: said no. He said why. I said, I don't like it, 667 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 3: but don't you like I don't like yelling at people. 668 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 3: I don't like being yelled at. He said, are you 669 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 3: married at the time. I was. He said, do me 670 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 3: a favor. Go home tonight, talk it over with your 671 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 3: wife and call me tomorrow. I said, I'll do that, 672 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 3: but I doubt that I'll change my mind. So I 673 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 3: was married at the time Lisa. I went home. I 674 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 3: mentioned it to my wife and she said, well, what 675 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 3: do you know about talk radio? I said, I know 676 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 3: nothing about it other than it scene shallow, glib and stupid. 677 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 3: She said it is, you'd be good at it, and 678 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 3: so I did it for that week and I loved it. 679 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 3: And it took me about two years to meet the 680 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 3: right people. I met Dennis Prager ultimately, and then it's 681 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 3: recommended me to KBC in LA and they gave me 682 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 3: a two day audition. After one day, they made me 683 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 3: an offer. And I've been doing radio ever since then, 684 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 3: been syndicated nationally in about three hundred markets. Before I 685 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 3: ran for governor, I was in as I mentioned, three 686 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 3: hundred markets, one point five million people heard me every day. 687 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 3: And I had a long career in radio. And then 688 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,959 Speaker 3: I had two nationally syndicated TV shows in my life. 689 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 3: One was called Larry olda show. Another one was called 690 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 3: Moral Court like a Judge show, like a Judge Judy show. 691 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 3: So I've done that. And right before I ran for president, 692 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 3: I was doing TV with Epic Times. I had a 693 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 3: show online and on cable for Epic Times. And in 694 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 3: the unlikely event that I don't become the next president 695 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 3: of the United States, I'll probably go back to either 696 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 3: TV or radio, or maybe even both. 697 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: Isn't it crazy how life can just take you on? 698 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: You know, you just talked about a couple of different things, 699 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: like the girlfriend being like, well, why don't you do 700 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: it better? 701 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 2: Or your wife being like why not try? 702 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy sometimes how life takes you down 703 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: these roads that you know originally you rejected the idea 704 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: and then it ended up being this huge career. 705 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 2: Right, So it's just kind of crazy how life works 706 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 2: like that. 707 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 3: Well you've heard the line man makes plan to God 708 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 3: laughs exactly. Ever, even two and a half years ago, 709 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 3: three years ago, would have thought that I'd run for anything. 710 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 3: I ran for third grade class president, and I remember 711 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 3: not liking that, even though I won that election. And 712 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 3: fast forward, I ran for governor and now I'm running 713 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 3: for president. I never in a million year thought I 714 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 3: would do any of that. But little by little I 715 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 3: began feeling that I've always thought of politics as a 716 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 3: spectator sport, and little by little I began thinking that 717 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 3: maybe I had something to contribute. I know, I had 718 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 3: something to say. And my dad, as I mentioned, was 719 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 3: a World War Two vet. He was a Marine, one 720 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 3: of the first Marines to recall the Montford Point Marines. 721 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 3: My older brother Kirk was in the Navy. He was 722 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 3: a Vietnam era VET. My little brother Dennis was in 723 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 3: the Army. He did go to Vietnam. I'm the only 724 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 3: one in my family who didn't serve, and I never 725 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 3: felt good about that. Lisa, and I really felt that 726 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 3: I had a world and a political and a patriotic 727 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 3: obligation to give back to a country that's been so 728 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 3: good to my family and to me. And that's why 729 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 3: I'm doing this. I would much rather not be spend 730 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 3: my winters in Iowa, whether I spend my winters in 731 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 3: New Hampshire. And as I said earlier, if I really 732 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 3: thought that Donald Trump could convince enough Twing voters so 733 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 3: that he could win in twenty four, you and I 734 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:54,760 Speaker 3: wouldn't be having this conversation. 735 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: That is a concern I share as well about him 736 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: just being toxic to independence, turn the key to winning. 737 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: Before we go, talk about your new book, As Goes California, 738 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 1: My Mission to Rescue the Golden State and Save the Nation. 739 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 3: Well, it's available on Amazon or on Born to Noble, 740 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 3: and I wrote it in part to talk a little 741 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 3: bit about my background, tell a little bit about who 742 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 3: and what made me the way I am. I talk 743 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,479 Speaker 3: about my mom, my dad, my brothers. I talk about 744 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 3: why I decided to run for governor in California. I 745 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 3: talk about the issues that I tried to address when 746 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 3: I ran, and then I talk about what my agenda 747 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 3: is when I run for president. So it's all in there, California, 748 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 3: the nation, my own background and why I'm doing this. 749 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 3: And I'm doing this, as I said before, for reasons 750 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,760 Speaker 3: that I think I would not be happy with Larry 751 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 3: Elder if I go to my grave knowing that I 752 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 3: did not do what I thought I should have done 753 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 3: to help my country. And that's what the book is 754 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 3: all about. 755 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: Well awesome, what sounds interesting, and that's out now. People 756 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:55,720 Speaker 1: can go get it correct. 757 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 3: Absolutely, you can go on Amazon or Born to Noble 758 00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:58,439 Speaker 3: right now. 759 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 1: Larry Elder, it is pleasure and an honor to have 760 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: you on the show, Stir. I really enjoyed our conversation. 761 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: Appreciate you entering into the arena to try to change 762 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: the country, and I appreciate you coming on the show. 763 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 3: Well, Lisa, and again I need contribution with from forty 764 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 3: thousand individual donors, and you can help by going to 765 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 3: Elder for President dot com at the very least. Don't 766 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 3: you want me to get up there on that debate 767 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 3: stage and say some of the stuff that you just 768 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 3: now heard me talk to Lisa about elderferpresident dot Com. 769 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Larry appreciate it. 770 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 3: Lisa, thank you for having me. God bless. 771 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: Those Larry elder appreciate him taking the time to come 772 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 1: on the show addressed to a lot of really important 773 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 1: issues that we're facing as a country. I want to 774 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 1: thank you guys at home for listening every Monday and Thursday, 775 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: but you can listen throughout the week, or do to 776 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: thank John Cass, who my producer, for putting the show together. 777 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 2: Until next time.