Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and camera Jeedge. Hi, guys,
Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of Two Teas and a Pod.
Speaker 1: But I am with Carlos King because Tamara is out
Speaker 1: of town and we love Carlos King and all this
Speaker 1: hot takes and Carlos I'm gonna start out this episode.
Speaker 1: This is a really hard episode for me to watch.
Speaker 1: It's going to be a hard episode for me to recap,
Speaker 1: and you just we're gonna have to know that. We're
Speaker 1: gonna have to know that going in and we're gonna
Speaker 1: have to work with me. And for everybody that you
Speaker 1: know has their opinions on why I am the way
Speaker 1: I am. I think there is a different line that
Speaker 1: is crossed when you know somebody in real life the
Speaker 1: same way that I am with Tamaran Oci. Because if
Speaker 1: you're my friend and real life, that is going to
Speaker 1: carry on onto this podcast, and if you don't like it,
Speaker 1: you can listen to the other person's opinion, our thoughts
Speaker 1: or whatever it may be. But that's who I am,
Speaker 1: so like if you don't, it's just.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well listen, that's why you have me here, because
Speaker 2: I am going to of course stay. In my opinion,
Speaker 2: that's what we do here. But I know the love
Speaker 2: that you and Kyle have for each other, and I
Speaker 2: watched the episode and I emly thought of you because
Speaker 2: I obviously was preparing for this episode and I just
Speaker 2: wanted you to know, like I'm going to be of
Speaker 2: course myself, and really, but listen, I want to say
Speaker 2: this at the top, we are all here for Kyle.
Speaker 2: We're supporting her what she's going through. You know, it's
Speaker 2: very devastating and it shows in her uncomfortableness throughout this reunion.
Speaker 2: So it's it's, it's, it's it's it's a sad state
Speaker 2: of affairs for sure.
Speaker 1: Is But before we get into the recap, Sutton shares
Speaker 1: where she stands with Kyle Richards after the Real Housewives
Speaker 1: of Beverly Hills reunion with Bryce Sander. She says, we
Speaker 1: just had dinner last week. It was nice and calm.
Speaker 1: We had a lot of work to do to get
Speaker 1: this friendship back, trust being the biggest factor, but I
Speaker 1: think the underlying part is that we are friends and
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we are more than
Speaker 1: the show. We don't need to pedal back and are
Speaker 1: catching up.
Speaker 3: Okay, uh.
Speaker 1: With this statement being said, I have additional thoughts on
Speaker 1: some of the things that happened with sut in this episode,
Speaker 1: which we'll get into as we get there. But my
Speaker 1: first question is do I get paid every time my
Speaker 1: name's mentioned on this reunion?
Speaker 3: You need I mean.
Speaker 2: You need to you need to give residuals or royalties
Speaker 2: or stopping honey.
Speaker 1: I was like again, have I brought up again? And
Speaker 1: for the loves.
Speaker 2: Listen, I said this on my own podcast, Teddy that
Speaker 2: someting wants to be a part of the cool Girls
Speaker 2: club and she's not having the most fun with Garsell.
Speaker 2: She wants to be a part of Kyle's group is
Speaker 2: obvious to me. She is, Listen, She's a socialite. She
Speaker 2: loves the nine to two one zero. She loves to
Speaker 2: be in the scene, her in Crystal. They enjoy that
Speaker 2: world and there's nothing wrong with it, but it does
Speaker 2: come at an expense to how real you are.
Speaker 3: When it comes to your friendships.
Speaker 2: I don't think something gives two about Kyle, Like, come on,
Speaker 2: she cares more about the invitations to the party. She
Speaker 2: cares more about making sure that her sister Kathy invites
Speaker 2: her to the Christmas Eve party, like that's.
Speaker 3: What Sun cares about.
Speaker 2: I don't think something gives two shits about Kyle's life
Speaker 2: or who she's dating, who's who she's going to, you know,
Speaker 2: divorce or not. I don't think Sutton cares at all.
Speaker 1: I do think this, and I know we're skipping ahead
Speaker 1: and then we'll come back, but let's talk about Sutton's
Speaker 1: fainting for a second.
Speaker 3: Girl.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, this like as we start to see
Speaker 1: this episode was going to be all about coming for Kyle.
Speaker 1: I think that Sutton was going to. I think that
Speaker 1: Garcelle was going to and I think that they were ready.
Speaker 1: They were Prectice was going to be the big razial
Speaker 1: like reveal of episode three, and here we go, and
Speaker 1: then they heard the name Kathy and talking about all
Speaker 1: that Beverly Hill stuff.
Speaker 3: M h.
Speaker 1: I think Sutton didn't want to go through with it. No,
Speaker 1: because she didn't, well, not because she cared about Kyle.
Speaker 1: Because she didn't want Kathy to see her doing it,
Speaker 1: because what that would mean for Sutton in their world
Speaker 1: of parties and friendships and whatever. Any I have gone
Speaker 1: to the hospital, I most certainly am not going back
Speaker 1: and changing into jeans a button down and a monogrammed blazer.
Speaker 3: Beforehand, the Chanelle jacket.
Speaker 1: Okay, I just would get into the car and go.
Speaker 1: You you're doing an outfit change.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean your best the accompanies.
Speaker 2: You lacking the guardian to sign off on the release
Speaker 2: form at Cedar sin By.
Speaker 1: Well, also when that guardian has also said in this
Speaker 1: reunion it's weird for a friend to go with a
Speaker 1: friend of the doctor. Well, you just left your job,
Speaker 1: when clearly Sutton has other people that could go with
Speaker 1: her to the I'm sure her room was filled. I
Speaker 1: think I even saw a post it's her glam people.
Speaker 1: Probably Abvi's there. I assume there's plenty of human beings
Speaker 1: that could take her to the hospital, and I think
Speaker 1: they all knew it was. Whether it was a panic attack,
Speaker 1: whether it was low blood sugar high, whatever, whatever it
Speaker 1: could have been. I'm not I'm not insinuating whatever it's
Speaker 1: not from her moment, but I am saying, if if
Speaker 1: we showed up to work at wherever it maybe let's
Speaker 1: say we worked at I don't know, let's CEA was
Speaker 1: my first job. Let's say you and I worked at
Speaker 1: CAA together and we sat next to each other in
Speaker 1: cubicles and I got sick. You could not leave work,
Speaker 1: you would stay at work.
Speaker 2: This was this was this was it for me. Listen,
Speaker 2: I grew with you. I'm not a doctor. I'm not
Speaker 2: going to diagnose. And you know, I hope she feels better.
Speaker 3: To me.
Speaker 2: It What was interesting to me is the fact that
Speaker 2: as a loof as Kathy Hilton may come across on camera. Rah, Okay,
Speaker 2: that's the difference as aloof, as Kathy comes across on camp.
Speaker 2: Even she knew like, oh, she didn't want to be
Speaker 2: in the hot seat because I was coming for her,
Speaker 2: you know, I was gunning for her. And when they
Speaker 2: revealed that Kathy was supposed to be a surprise and
Speaker 2: that it got revealed, I think a lot of people's
Speaker 2: disposition change and they did not want to be iced
Speaker 2: out because you cannot go against Kathy Hilton.
Speaker 1: And Kathy and Kyle are getting along and they're clothes
Speaker 1: and they're sharing their crystal and they're in a good place.
Speaker 1: And Sutton and Garcelle knew good and well, if they
Speaker 1: went for her at that moment and we're relentless, Kathy
Speaker 1: was not was going to ice them out.
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, Listen, if Sutton felting the need to go
Speaker 2: to the hospital and change in her Joe jeans, her
Speaker 2: Chanelle jacket and her her broach and all those things.
Speaker 2: For the life of me, I do not understand Garcel
Speaker 2: had to go. And as a as a creator and
Speaker 2: executive producer, if I was there, I would say, Garcel Production,
Speaker 2: I would have sent one of my producers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like you said, she had the glam spot.
Speaker 2: She has an assistant, she has a lot of people
Speaker 2: around her.
Speaker 3: Garcell, You're going to do a job. Do your job.
Speaker 1: Do your job. But also let's point this out if
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about, like, you know, pandering to
Speaker 1: the fans, because if there is someone that the fans
Speaker 1: like more than them, it's.
Speaker 3: Kathy Oo Teddy Joe Walter's baby.
Speaker 2: She's back at a twenty twenty five time Live bitch.
Speaker 1: Because once Kathy walked in, you have to even Kathy
Speaker 1: laughing when she goes to sit down. I was like,
Speaker 1: I wonder if Kathy just clocked that little curly piece
Speaker 1: on Reid's forehead or what she's laughing about.
Speaker 3: Like there's just something you mean, little bit or body hood.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like there's just some thing about like I also
Speaker 1: couldn't tell sometimes if Kathy was crying, laughing or laughing
Speaker 1: crying like which one? It was like, are we emotional? Here?
Speaker 1: Are we laughing? Here?
Speaker 3: Laughing? Listen?
Speaker 2: Kathy is in on the joke and the fact that
Speaker 2: I have never in my years of producing and hosting reunions,
Speaker 2: I have never seen somebody a tent of reunion who
Speaker 2: never appeared in the season, not one time.
Speaker 1: Not even not even maybe a fun time, not even
Speaker 1: a FaceTime.
Speaker 3: No, not a phone like nothing. Why. I'm like, why
Speaker 3: is she there? It was so confusing to me, So
Speaker 3: I agree with you.
Speaker 2: I think Sutton and Garsell were gunning to like, we're
Speaker 2: gonna come for Kyle because they they're not afraid of
Speaker 2: Kyle by any means. This what was on that stage.
Speaker 2: It showed me that Kathy does run nine or two one.
Speaker 1: Zero, and Crystal even said it. Questions like oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, at least in that moment, Crystal did own it.
Speaker 1: She's like, oh no, I mean, Kathy, like pretty much
Speaker 1: you're the end.
Speaker 2: I'll be all, yeah, I'm not trying to lose a
Speaker 2: fifteenth brand. Let the fourteen go, but Kathy has to stay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, She's like no, but I have a lot of
Speaker 1: red carpet events to attend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Elton John is going to be their honey. I
Speaker 3: have to go bye.
Speaker 2: I don't want to think up a boy Georgia and
Speaker 2: Dery and PK. I want to go to the Elton
Speaker 2: John oscar party.
Speaker 1: We yeah, I mean I think that's what happened. But
Speaker 1: the entire thing when and you see also when the
Speaker 1: women watch sudden faint or whatever whatever's happening. And I'm
Speaker 1: not dismissing it. I really don't know what was happening
Speaker 1: because we were kind of blocked. We didn't really see it.
Speaker 1: We just saw the hand shaking. But all I could
Speaker 1: also think about was when Crystal's hand was shaking and
Speaker 1: she had to go to the hospital when they were
Speaker 1: in Barcelona, no one went with her and they were
Speaker 1: in another country.
Speaker 2: Good points are May Walters. You're so right about that.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely think about it like this is where they
Speaker 1: all live, They've all been to this hospital, they have family,
Speaker 1: they have friends. It is way scarier and way harder
Speaker 1: to go to a hospital in the middle of somewhere
Speaker 1: you don't know anyone, or sure you don't speak the language.
Speaker 3: Like all of it No for sure, for sure, but no,
Speaker 3: I'm telling you.
Speaker 2: When I saw that, I was like, how convenient that
Speaker 2: this happened?
Speaker 3: And it was just listen.
Speaker 2: It was disappointing that we weren't able to really see it,
Speaker 2: especially the fact that Kat for Kathy Hilton to utter
Speaker 2: out of her own mouth that she was gunning for
Speaker 2: her or going to comfort her whatever she said.
Speaker 3: I'm paraphrasing.
Speaker 2: Kathy was ready to read the girls the way she
Speaker 2: read Lisa and Ravenna off that stage last year.
Speaker 1: Here's also the thing that bugs. I just watched her
Speaker 1: give Kyle this big hug and say that they're fine
Speaker 1: and all of that, But then I could feel it
Speaker 1: like she was coming, like she was going to come
Speaker 1: for her again. What was the whole point of the
Speaker 1: hugging it out and all that if you were then
Speaker 1: gonna come after the next potty break and go for it. Anyways,
Speaker 1: that being said, I did up until this point, and
Speaker 1: even at this point, I do like I did like
Speaker 1: Sutton this reunion.
Speaker 2: So she she she she showed up and she and
Speaker 2: she she was she was. I thought she had a
Speaker 2: great performance up until part three, Up.
Speaker 1: Until part three. But the good news is for Crystal.
Speaker 1: She got to be in the first seat for the
Speaker 1: first time ever, probably the only.
Speaker 2: Time, Honey, the first and the last time, Honey, Crystal, listen.
Speaker 1: She's first in the last time ever.
Speaker 2: Honey, baby take that seat, warming to a baby, Udie, please.
Speaker 1: And I never got there. I never got there, So
Speaker 1: you know what, but.
Speaker 2: You showed up and you stayed for the fourteen hour
Speaker 2: shoot that.
Speaker 1: But then Andy asked Erica about how some people in
Speaker 1: the group fear Kathy. Erica says, Kathy can pick up
Speaker 1: the phone and make things happen. Kyle was laughing about
Speaker 1: sending the clip of Erica saying people were scared of her.
Speaker 1: But I thought Katy was a good sport the entire episode.
Speaker 1: She was funny.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 1: Then they get into the relationship between Kathy and Kyle,
Speaker 1: and they're saying that their relationship is more important than
Speaker 1: the TV show. They hold the fingers behind the hand
Speaker 1: the three years. Kyle guesses, like all of that you see,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, like their true relationship.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, And listen, I have, as I
Speaker 2: told you before, I have nine siblings. When you have
Speaker 2: a lot of siblings, you go through a lot of
Speaker 2: problems and there's days you love them, there's months you
Speaker 2: go with the house speaking. It hasn't been years for me,
Speaker 2: It has been months with a particular sibling, but you
Speaker 2: kind of.
Speaker 1: If it'sn't the one that owns you twelve thousand.
Speaker 2: Someone darling, you know, you go through those moments, and
Speaker 2: especially when you're sisters, right, Like, sisters have a very unique,
Speaker 2: sensitive relationship.
Speaker 3: It's very it's very unique.
Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, Kathy's the oldest,
Speaker 2: and when you're the oldest, you're like the second mom so.
Speaker 3: It is sort of like this hierarchy.
Speaker 2: But I love the fact that they were able to
Speaker 2: kind of like get past their issues because I didn't
Speaker 2: see these days coming based on what happened last reunion,
Speaker 2: so I was pleased with it.
Speaker 1: And then when they did the flashback scene with Kim
Speaker 1: and Kyle and you see them both emotional, like, I
Speaker 1: just thought that was a nice way to kind of
Speaker 1: wrap it up. If I were to guess, I feel like,
Speaker 1: we'll see Kathy more next season after this.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, she has to, honey, she has to confront
Speaker 2: In the season premiere, Alex Baskin, I just gave you
Speaker 2: a scene, honey, like.
Speaker 1: I feel like this is you know, Kathy did what
Speaker 1: Kathy Kathy on this episode and it was needed. But
Speaker 1: then this part it was hard for me to watch,
Speaker 1: just because I care about them as people. But they
Speaker 1: get into Mo and Kyle and Mo leaving the company
Speaker 1: and opening his own business, and it caused problems between
Speaker 1: Kyle and Kathy. From his book, MO wrote, if they
Speaker 1: paid me what I deserve and showed me an inkling
Speaker 1: of professional love, I would have stayed. But they didn't
Speaker 1: see it that way. Kathy responds when he left, he
Speaker 1: did a call on a Thursday, and Rick said, when
Speaker 1: are you leaving it? And Mo said on Friday. And
Speaker 1: Rick said, your family just know opening your business is tough.
Speaker 1: The door's always open for you. Please just don't poach
Speaker 1: my staff or agents, and then asked if Mo did,
Speaker 1: and Kathy says a few. And then you see Kyle
Speaker 1: kind of like, I don't want to, we don't need
Speaker 1: to get into this again, which I don't really think
Speaker 1: this has anything to do with anything that we're talking
Speaker 1: about now.
Speaker 2: M listen, she's Ky Else said in the episode that
Speaker 2: they've had three very big arguments, and those three very
Speaker 2: big arguments had a lot to do with other things,
Speaker 2: but one particular was her husband leaving to start his
Speaker 2: own firm, and she did not want to get into
Speaker 2: it because she listen, Kyle knows that if.
Speaker 3: I bring something up and based on what happened, we
Speaker 3: could be back at that bad place.
Speaker 2: So I respected Kyle for saying I don't want to
Speaker 2: talk about it.
Speaker 3: I have a very different version of the story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no right here. It's not there's no like,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna see eye to eye on this conversation,
Speaker 1: so there's there's no point.
Speaker 2: So apparently Paris Hilton Breaking News just released a statement
Speaker 2: based on the clip that was provided on social media
Speaker 2: about Marie mentioning on his Netflix show Buying Beverly Hills
Speaker 2: what exactly happened between him and Paris Hilton's father, Rick Hilton.
Speaker 2: Paris Hilton wrote a comment, and she said, my father
Speaker 2: is a consummate gentleman and has always taken the higher road.
Speaker 2: He will never speak negatively about his family, especially in
Speaker 2: the press. Frankly, we're all sick of him, wow, using
Speaker 2: the Hilton name every chance he gets to plug his
Speaker 2: lame show.
Speaker 3: It is enough.
Speaker 2: Already, Okay, we this has talked about Hyle now wanting
Speaker 2: to have beat with her sister, and I think unfortunately
Speaker 2: this may have opened up a new can of worms.
Speaker 1: Well, the hard thing with this is like Paris's cousins
Speaker 1: are also on this show.
Speaker 2: This is why listen. It bothers me because I just
Speaker 2: I don't care how old you are. I don't think
Speaker 2: kids should get involved in the parents business. And it's
Speaker 2: one thing to defend your parent, and that's that's honorable.
Speaker 2: But when you are a huge celebrity, you know what
Speaker 2: this can do. So I would have set this out
Speaker 2: and let the parents.
Speaker 1: Deal with this, especially knowing how well things are going
Speaker 1: between the sister the you know, Kyle and Kathy at
Speaker 1: this point.
Speaker 2: This is yeah, she says something, and listen, it's one
Speaker 2: thing to say my father is the consummate gentleman and
Speaker 2: has always taken the higher row, and I would do
Speaker 2: the same, but to say that we are But this
Speaker 2: is the part that got me teddy. Frankly, we are
Speaker 2: all sick of him using the hill to name every
Speaker 2: chance he gets to plug his lame show.
Speaker 3: That's not that's that's not nice.
Speaker 2: And and it's like parents is speaking on the half
Speaker 2: of the family by saying we.
Speaker 3: So that's why it gets messy. I think Mauricio knew
Speaker 3: that it may calls a.
Speaker 2: Conversation, but I did think he was ready for that
Speaker 2: to be used as clickbait to watch the show.
Speaker 1: You know, Oh well what it does. What all of
Speaker 1: this shows is like all of the trials and tribulations
Speaker 1: they have all gone through, they've ended up working through it.
Speaker 1: And what I have learned from past things of doing
Speaker 1: this podcast is when it comes to family sometimes I
Speaker 1: have to like take take a step back and not
Speaker 1: comment because family is always going like family has to
Speaker 1: always come first and they will figure it out. So
Speaker 1: I hope that's the case. But then getting back to
Speaker 1: Sutton and Andy, when he gets to text that Sutton's
Speaker 1: going to the hospital and Garcel's going with her and
Speaker 1: then they see Merse Merse in the purse.
Speaker 2: Child, Well, what was the point of of of of
Speaker 2: her bringing that?
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. It's all about the audience. It
Speaker 1: just bugs like, Okay, we released Merce because maybe he
Speaker 1: was a housewife fan, he told you that, But to
Speaker 1: bring Merce to the reunion, why.
Speaker 2: I know, it is what I call stunts and shows
Speaker 2: like this isn't Ruepau's drag race. This isn't the snatch game.
Speaker 2: We don't watch Housewives for these stunts at the reunion
Speaker 2: because you want your followers to say yes, queen.
Speaker 3: And you gave us a moment, girl.
Speaker 1: And by the way, she didn't give us the moment.
Speaker 1: Erica gave us the moment when she said, merse in
Speaker 1: the purse. That's what made it the moment. The fact
Speaker 1: that Merce's ashes flew on to everybody, and when Erica
Speaker 1: was like mersed in the purse, that's what made it
Speaker 1: a sensation. So it's not necessarily that she had the
Speaker 1: idea to release the ashes when they were in Barcelona,
Speaker 1: but now she's bringing them along everywhere. And what was
Speaker 1: she going to do with him at the reunion? Bring
Speaker 1: his ziploc bag out?
Speaker 3: Not that hafty like what like?
Speaker 2: Was it this kind of zip blocker that you put
Speaker 2: your kids jelly sandwiches in the lunch box.
Speaker 1: By the way, you can't bring peanut butter and jelly
Speaker 1: to schools anymore.
Speaker 3: You can't.
Speaker 1: Now, why not Peanut Butter's canceled? Well, DN, peanut Butter
Speaker 1: is done.
Speaker 2: WHOA Okay, you learned something new every day with Teddy
Speaker 2: Walter's baby Jesus.
Speaker 3: Alrighty.
Speaker 1: Then we get into Andy. This is where you see,
Speaker 1: This is where I think it was gonna be all
Speaker 1: the women talking to Kyle about what Kyle's been going through,
Speaker 1: because then Andy starts asking the questions. Andy asked when
Speaker 1: things started to change with Mo. Kyle says their issues
Speaker 1: never went away, but something happened that made her lose
Speaker 1: her trust. Andy says there has been rumors of infidelity.
Speaker 1: Kyle says there was always a voice in her head
Speaker 1: wondering if it was true. Kyle said she never would
Speaker 1: have let Mo on Dancing with the Stars if their
Speaker 1: marriage was in a good place. Kyle says it was
Speaker 1: hard to watch his dance with Emma. Kyle felt Mauricio's
Speaker 1: dance he dedicated to her was hurtful, but Erica doesn't.
Speaker 1: Erica says all of Dancing with the Stars suggests subjective.
Speaker 1: My question for you is with your partner, because I
Speaker 1: was thinking about the same thing if it reversed, if
Speaker 1: I were to get Sheena's job next year a dancing
Speaker 1: with this.
Speaker 3: We're gunning for your job.
Speaker 1: Sina girl Sena all be the worst dancer Dancing with
Speaker 1: the Stars ever had but I'd say yes, me too,
Speaker 1: just so I could get voted off of something again.
Speaker 1: First again, I love it really feel but uh, would
Speaker 1: you be upset if your significant other did it? Because
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't care if I did it,
Speaker 1: like I think he would think it was like hot
Speaker 1: or sex, like if I learned how to dance, I
Speaker 1: like him to do it.
Speaker 2: I don't think my partner would care either, because but
Speaker 2: this is the thing. I think the difference is this,
Speaker 2: and I'll say it, and you let me know you
Speaker 2: want to chime in.
Speaker 3: I do believe that it should be.
Speaker 2: One star per household, not that the partner can't have
Speaker 2: their own thing.
Speaker 3: I think for so.
Speaker 2: Long, Kyle enjoyed being the face of you know, the
Speaker 2: Mauricio Umansky you know eight brand whatever. And Mauricio always
Speaker 2: camera calls as very too cool for school, which is
Speaker 2: why we kind of liked him a lot, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you don't give two shits about this fame whatever.
Speaker 1: Like he didn't need to be on the couch at
Speaker 1: the reunion.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, he's not pqu okay.
Speaker 2: So I think we all enjoyed that Mauricio was sort
Speaker 2: of like too cool for school, so to all of
Speaker 2: a sudden dancing with the stars, Like even Andy said
Speaker 2: like I'm shocked he did it. I think we all
Speaker 2: were like surprised, and I think Kyo was like, what's
Speaker 2: happening here? Like all of a sudden, you're kind of
Speaker 2: infiltrating in my territory.
Speaker 3: Like go sell real estate, go to like.
Speaker 2: You know, Ensino or Calabasas, and go have a meeting
Speaker 2: with Chris Jenner, Like why are you infiltrating into my world?
Speaker 2: And I think to me outside looking, I know nothing.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of issues also stems from this
Speaker 2: Mauricio not being the husband that you know she married.
Speaker 1: Well, I think I can speak from my own personal
Speaker 1: experience with my husband when he is very busy with
Speaker 1: work or whatever it may be, or I am very
Speaker 1: busy with work, and we are living separate lives, like
Speaker 1: not with other people, but when we are just living
Speaker 1: like running with like chickens with our heads cut off,
Speaker 1: we have a much harder time connecting when we get
Speaker 1: back together. It makes it very difficult because we are
Speaker 1: so into ourselves and what we're doing or the kids
Speaker 1: or business or whatever it may be. So if we
Speaker 1: don't figure out ways to connect and enjoy doing things together.
Speaker 1: That is when our marriage really struggles. And the more
Speaker 1: the time passes, the harder it gets, like you start
Speaker 1: to build like a callous with one another of that situation,
Speaker 1: like if you and I said. I said this to
Speaker 1: Edwin the other day we were talking. I said, something
Speaker 1: we need to be better about is when we're both
Speaker 1: going to be present at the same time, because what
Speaker 1: happens to us sometimes is one of us is ready
Speaker 1: to connect and the other one's like, hold on, I've
Speaker 1: got I got a Carloss coming on the pot, like
Speaker 1: it's you're not actually connecting, and then I'm feeling this
Speaker 1: way and then vice versa. And I think, I mean,
Speaker 1: and we're only at fifteen years. I can't even imagine,
Speaker 1: like the work you have to put into it after
Speaker 1: twenty eight years. I think their marriage is a true
Speaker 1: testament to how much they loved each other. But I
Speaker 1: think if something happens in your relationship and you guys
Speaker 1: aren't able to have those moments, it's harder.
Speaker 2: No, it is, And we saw that because even listen,
Speaker 2: I appreciate it, Kyle being honest.
Speaker 3: Saying I was jealous that he got it. Like again,
Speaker 3: that's really.
Speaker 1: I don't think she said she was jealous he got it.
Speaker 1: She said I didn't. I wouldn't have let him do it.
Speaker 3: Okay, I want to put worse people's mouth, so.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. Like she wasn't upset that
Speaker 1: he got the offer, Like it wasn't that it was
Speaker 1: just the I think that the intimacy of dancing with
Speaker 1: a personal see and.
Speaker 2: It come across that way again, based on how it looked.
Speaker 2: I took it as I wanted to do it. Why
Speaker 2: are you doing something I'm doing like Shena and Arianna
Speaker 2: a little bit?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: No, no, okay, so no, I'm glad we're cleaning this up.
Speaker 1: I can tell you that Kyle has gotten a lot
Speaker 1: of job offers that she hasn't taken.
Speaker 3: Mm hm.
Speaker 1: So I don't think Marisio getting the offer for Dancing
Speaker 1: with the Stars is what would have like bothered her.
Speaker 1: I think the same way it possibly would have bothered me.
Speaker 1: Seeing Edwin form a relationship and spend so much time
Speaker 1: with another woman when he works so much and it's
Speaker 1: not me would have been bothersome to me as well.
Speaker 3: Got it?
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, basbook cleaning that up because I think a
Speaker 2: lot of us took it the other way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think just because you're like, Okay, you
Speaker 1: don't have time to do this, this and this, but
Speaker 1: you have time to go on dancing with the stars.
Speaker 1: See how that works.
Speaker 3: Like, I get it now, I get it.
Speaker 1: To me, I'd be like Edwin, you hold on, you
Speaker 1: can't make it home for the now, but you can
Speaker 1: go spend eight hours is dancing with the hot blonde?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Then fans want to know the real reason why Kyle
Speaker 1: and Most split. Kyle says, it's nobody's effing business. Kyle's
Speaker 1: daughters are strong and supportive, but it's painful. Kathy says
Speaker 1: for the last two to three years Kyle and Mo
Speaker 1: were off. Kyle says that's incorrect. On the timeline. This
Speaker 1: is where Kyle says there was talk of moving out
Speaker 1: and that Mo would be the one to move out.
Speaker 1: And at this point I was thinking, honestly, Crystal and
Speaker 1: Anna Marie could have gone to the hospital as well.
Speaker 1: A sudden screen time.
Speaker 3: Nobody needs a ride to see their son eye half
Speaker 3: this no.
Speaker 1: Like at least Erica and are on the same side
Speaker 1: of the couch so you can get their expressions Occasionally
Speaker 1: you know who would you have known they need one
Speaker 1: couch just making a love sack.
Speaker 2: They come with the craft services and I don't want
Speaker 2: to care.
Speaker 3: It's like, go on the bathroom break girl.
Speaker 1: Do whatever, have another lunch, go take your blood pressure
Speaker 1: like it. Nobody knows.
Speaker 3: This is so good. This is so good. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So watching watching that conversation, I will say this, Everybody
Speaker 2: who knows me knows that Kyle Richards is my favorite housewife.
Speaker 3: Everybody knows that. I've said it for years.
Speaker 2: When she said it was nobody's business, I'm like, Kyle
Speaker 2: is my business.
Speaker 3: Not because I'm finally for fifteen I'm invested in this,
Speaker 3: but I appreciate it. Look all jumps aside.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that Kyle is trying to keep the peace
Speaker 2: and she's trying not to.
Speaker 3: Reveal much because she still has a young child.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know who goes to school and people talk.
Speaker 2: So it goes to show you that at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, I'll give I'll give Kyle this credit.
Speaker 2: For the first time in the history of her career
Speaker 2: on Housewives, she finally said, I'm not going to answer that.
Speaker 2: As to her credit, Kyle has always been transparent and
Speaker 2: if anybody deserves one moment of I don't want to
Speaker 2: talk about that, it's her. So I appreciated that. And
Speaker 2: against she has a small child, So there you go.
Speaker 1: And I think that clearly by the last three episodes
Speaker 1: of this reunion, and it's all been about Kyle I watched, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like there hasn't been. I mean, and I'm not putting
Speaker 1: down Sudden's horse. I love horses or the Cashmere or
Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't mention Garcel's relationship with her sons
Speaker 1: yet so far on the like all of them, No,
Speaker 1: none of it was there. I mean, nothing about Crystal's
Speaker 1: brother well girls, I mean, but but you get my point.
Speaker 1: There has been nothing about really anybody else other than Dree.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: No, you're right about that. I forgot about They never
Speaker 3: had a gar Cell.
Speaker 2: Package because she ran out of there. So when when
Speaker 2: it came to Kyle's conversation with Andy, I thought Andy
Speaker 2: did a great job at asking the questions without its
Speaker 2: feeling invasive because it is a dance.
Speaker 3: So I thought Andy did a stellar job.
Speaker 2: And I know how close he and Kyle are in
Speaker 2: really right, I will say this though, and this is
Speaker 2: my opinion, Okay, I really was expecting a reveal of
Speaker 2: that Morgan and I are dating.
Speaker 3: Not engaged, not like you know whatever.
Speaker 2: I did expect the reveal because we've been following this
Speaker 2: story since the fourth of July when Dave Quinn announced
Speaker 2: it in People magazine with.
Speaker 3: Supposedly credible sources.
Speaker 2: Right, But I expected that we've all been waiting for
Speaker 2: this moment. Don dun dundun So when Andy tastefully asked,
Speaker 2: are you guys together? And She's like not, but do
Speaker 2: you mean not like that?
Speaker 1: Andy asked if she could ever see herself with Morgan.
Speaker 1: Kyle says she doesn't know. Kyle says she is evolving
Speaker 1: and changing and doesn't know what her future holds. I
Speaker 1: think the problem with this season was everything was led
Speaker 1: up to this moment because nothing else was that would
Speaker 1: have been enough for everybody had there been anybody else
Speaker 1: with anything going on.
Speaker 2: Well, No, I think it's one of those things like
Speaker 2: look Erica Jane, who I agree with, She said, I
Speaker 2: need you to grill everybody the way you grilled me,
Speaker 2: essentially saying grill out of Kyle because it's the elephant
Speaker 2: in the room, just like Erica and Tom Girardy situation
Speaker 2: and Andy again did a stella job at Athletic.
Speaker 1: But did Erica not say no, I'm not answering that,
Speaker 1: and she did it this reunion.
Speaker 3: Agreed, agreed, no, no, no, I'm with you. I'm with you.
Speaker 3: I would have.
Speaker 2: But the thing is this, there's and I want to
Speaker 2: say this for the world, and I'm not trying to
Speaker 2: like speak for Kyle Richards, right, but I think for
Speaker 2: the public if I'm speaking or the public, there's nothing
Speaker 2: wrong with being gay. There's nothing wrong with dating a
Speaker 2: woman if you are going through a separation or divorce.
Speaker 2: And we've seen things about Teddy. Let's be honest here.
Speaker 2: We've seen the music video right, how salacious it was,
Speaker 2: how central it was. We've seen Morgan rub her back.
Speaker 2: We've seen I'm Gonna be Real with your Girl. That
Speaker 2: first scene between Morgan and Kyle. I was like, honey,
Speaker 2: if it's a rom com on Hulu, like what am
Speaker 2: I watching here? It felt like a romantic comedy that
Speaker 2: Jennifer Lawrence turned down. It gave very much like they
Speaker 2: have chemistry. And I'll say it, I, in my opinion,
Speaker 2: I do believe that they are seeing each other, right,
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they're in an exclusive relationship. I'm not
Speaker 2: saying anything outside of that. I think they like each other.
Speaker 2: She did say she loves her now Andy, I would
Speaker 2: have follow.
Speaker 3: Up with are you in love with her?
Speaker 2: But I digress, you know, so I appreciate Kyle saying
Speaker 2: I do love her, but she also loves.
Speaker 3: You, Teddy.
Speaker 2: So I really, if I'm being honest, I really wanted
Speaker 2: Kyle to say something along the lines of I'm evolving.
Speaker 2: I'm going through a lot. I never saw myself dating
Speaker 2: a woman. I'm getting to know her on a deeper level.
Speaker 2: It's too early to give it a title, but all
Speaker 2: I will say is she and I are having a
Speaker 2: great time and I'm looking forward to how things progress.
Speaker 2: And I think all of us would be satisfied. But
Speaker 2: I think a lot of us, Teddy, if I'm being
Speaker 2: completely honest, I think a lot of us are not
Speaker 2: satisfied at the.
Speaker 3: End of the day.
Speaker 2: Look, we all have friendships in this business, and unlike
Speaker 2: most of the women on Kyle's Couch, you two are
Speaker 2: really friends. You're not friends for the sake of TV
Speaker 2: because even the fact that you're not on the show anymore,
Speaker 2: and you guys are still friends hang out off the country.
Speaker 3: This is very weird for you, and.
Speaker 2: Listen, I want the world to know, at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, we have to start respecting real friendships
Speaker 2: that are not tailor made for television. I said this
Speaker 2: to you guys all the time. The true test of
Speaker 2: the friendship is what happens when one person leaves the
Speaker 2: show gets fired and the other person remains. When tamor
Speaker 2: Judge got fired, Shannon dropped like a bad habit. That's
Speaker 2: not a real friendship. So we can't give Teddy a
Speaker 2: hard time because they're really friends. So let me somebody
Speaker 2: who does love Kyle. I think she's so sweet. I
Speaker 2: DM her, she dms me back. We're like, we're cordial.
Speaker 2: I'm speaking on behalf of the general public saying we
Speaker 2: all did expect the revelation to occur. But at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, and I will say this, and
Speaker 2: I do mean this as a gay person, you cannot
Speaker 2: force anybody to come out unless they're ready. And I'm
Speaker 2: not saying that Kyle's coming out. I'm not saying all
Speaker 2: those things. I'm saying, if this is something that Kyle
Speaker 2: wants to figure out, we as the gay community we
Speaker 2: know firsthand you cannot force anybody to come out because
Speaker 2: you want them to, So I'll leave it at that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that also in regards to watching
Speaker 1: all this or hearing you say it wasn't enough for
Speaker 1: you or for the viewers or whatever it may be,
Speaker 1: I also have to kind of put it into like
Speaker 1: if I'm watching it from a television show perspective. She's
Speaker 1: given so much of her life for so many years
Speaker 1: as her friend, I'm like, I've watched her give so
Speaker 1: much and I'm watching other people talk about bullshit.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: So when is when is it too much?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: When is it like you need your own timing?
Speaker 4: Do?
Speaker 1: I think that regardless of what happens, whether it was
Speaker 1: Moe's moving out or this, like you see little things
Speaker 1: continue to evolve, She's always been transparent as things happen.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Andy asked her, Who's moving out? Would you be jealous
Speaker 1: of dancing with the stars all of those things? She
Speaker 1: gave answers to, Yeah, no, I know.
Speaker 3: But again, speaking speaking on behalf.
Speaker 2: Of the audience, it's because we were dealt with breadcrumbs
Speaker 2: even when she was on Watch What Happens Live, We're
Speaker 2: like this. Even when you two were on together, We're like,
Speaker 2: this is this the moment? And then it was another parent,
Speaker 2: then the Today Show, We're all.
Speaker 3: Like, is this the moment?
Speaker 2: So when you so, I think you have to understand
Speaker 2: the reason why, we as the audience are sort of
Speaker 2: like we want answer.
Speaker 3: I gave you my my, my.
Speaker 2: Perspective as a viewer and a producer. Now, if I'm
Speaker 2: a housewife, I would I would do this. If I
Speaker 2: was kyle you bitches would have to tune into season
Speaker 2: fourteen to see what happens because the thig listen that.
Speaker 2: So with that being said, if I'm a housewife, if.
Speaker 1: You're putting your producer hat on or your housewife had on,
Speaker 1: that's what you would do.
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, because we need to go shar my contract
Speaker 2: and say so you think that Dereet and the rest
Speaker 2: of these girls gave an ounce of what I gave.
Speaker 2: Because let's be clear, you and I both said this
Speaker 2: season was lackluster and Kylee was the only reason we
Speaker 2: watched Eureka.
Speaker 3: There it is. This season was.
Speaker 2: So lackluster, Teddy that the only thing we kept watching
Speaker 2: was we wanted to see more clues about this Morgan
Speaker 2: Wade stuff and that's the reason why we you know,
Speaker 2: had a full for it.
Speaker 1: And you know, so this is a little a little
Speaker 1: message to the other girls on all the other couches.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to do a little more. You're gonna
Speaker 1: have to do a little more because if not, you
Speaker 1: will be the next one where your life is completely
Speaker 1: picked apart, alone and decided, like the same way with Erica,
Speaker 1: Like if there's not a collective effort to show more
Speaker 1: transparency in your life, then this is what happens. It's
Speaker 1: been and this is what happens a lot on Beverly
Speaker 1: Hills and less on some of the other show. We're
Speaker 1: seeing it a little bit on Potomac right now, which
Speaker 1: is driving me out, Like it's where it's just one
Speaker 1: thing over it, over it. So in this case, everybody
Speaker 1: loves Kyle, so people aren't over it. But like everybody,
Speaker 1: get to work, you got stuff to do. Season fourteen,
Speaker 1: but they their takeaway from the reunion is Anna Marie
Speaker 1: says what is important is happiness and health. Chris says
Speaker 1: that she shouldn't be afraid to speak up because her
Speaker 1: voice matters. Erica says she is okay and proud she
Speaker 1: showed up for herself. Kathy says she is happy to
Speaker 1: be here with Kyle and says it's wonderful that these
Speaker 1: girls care about each other and have a sisterhood. Dari
Speaker 1: says she learned not to trust. I love that this
Speaker 1: is right. Afterwards, Dari says that she learned not to trust,
Speaker 1: but asks to start again. Andy Yawn's uh Dar says
Speaker 1: she needs to be less naive of all the things
Speaker 1: he could have said, Okay, yeah, that ain't the one. Then,
Speaker 1: Kyle says she may have lost what she thought was
Speaker 1: happily ever after, but she is strong enough and will
Speaker 1: have a happily ever after no matter what. Then they
Speaker 1: do the little like the little panning afterward, what is
Speaker 1: that called? Producer?
Speaker 4: What is it?
Speaker 1: The little ending? Cards?
Speaker 3: Yes, the cards and cards, but.
Speaker 1: The only in cards we got were after a brief
Speaker 1: stint in the er, sett in his back home and
Speaker 1: making a full recovery with her dogs and Aufie right
Speaker 1: by her side. Two weeks after the reunion, Kyle flew
Speaker 1: to Nashville to see Morgan in concert. Kyle and Moe
Speaker 1: are still living separate lives under the same roof. Well,
Speaker 1: he continues to search for a new home. Where's everybody
Speaker 1: else's cards?
Speaker 2: Who else matters in this scenario? That but again, it
Speaker 2: goes to show you. I'm speaking of the half of
Speaker 2: the audience. We only watched to see this moment happen.
Speaker 2: And for us, we thought it was anti climatic only
Speaker 2: because none of these other girls were working.
Speaker 3: They did not work this season.
Speaker 2: We need a recast, get rid of Crystal, get rid
Speaker 2: of Dereat, like we need some new blood and bring back.
Speaker 1: So if you okay, so that if you could recast,
Speaker 1: what would be your situation you're going to get rid of.
Speaker 2: I would get rid of Crystal and Deret. I miss
Speaker 2: real friendships on Beverly Hills, right, And am I saying this?
Speaker 2: Because you're my sister. I want to see you back
Speaker 2: on the show. You And the problem is this Yle
Speaker 2: looks uncomfortable because she looks around the room and she's like,
Speaker 2: I guess I can talk to ericau By when I'm
Speaker 2: going through, which I'm like, again, I like Ericut.
Speaker 3: I think her and Erica are friends.
Speaker 2: But that's not the person you want to talk to
Speaker 2: about something that serious. Let's let's let's let's be real here.
Speaker 2: Kyle needs a real friend. I've never done a show
Speaker 2: where the force multiplier slash Queen Bee doesn't have a
Speaker 2: real friend. On the show, Nini always has Cynthia until
Speaker 2: they fell out.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: At one point Teresa had you know, Jacqueline. They fell out,
Speaker 2: But now she has you know, Jennifer. She needs a
Speaker 2: real friend. So I would love for you to come back.
Speaker 3: I will love for.
Speaker 2: Lisa Rena to come back so that I think she
Speaker 2: can wake some people up and I want some new blood.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not saying that, yeah about me, I'm just
Speaker 1: hearing you out. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not recasting
Speaker 1: my uh myself back into the next I was, I was,
Speaker 1: I was hearing what you were saying. But I do
Speaker 1: think what that show is missing is some friends.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and dere is not your friend, Kyle. Sorry, not sorry,
Speaker 2: I have a text message goodbye.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's one thing to say she texted, but
Speaker 1: to give every little crumb.
Speaker 2: Honey to send the screenshots to the producer, I would
Speaker 2: have said, girl, I gave you the conversation with Erica,
Speaker 2: beat it Billy Jean like, but for you to actually
Speaker 2: take time out of your day to send it to
Speaker 2: so and so at Evolution Media USA got that before.
Speaker 1: She probably did that before.
Speaker 3: Ooh see now that girl.
Speaker 1: You think the entrance, no, you think the entrance to
Speaker 1: Erica's was like organic and authentic. She didn't like think
Speaker 1: about that prior. No, I'm sure she read the text
Speaker 1: messages to PK and then was like, what should I do?
Speaker 1: How do I put the situation.
Speaker 3: Out there to save my job next season? Because that's
Speaker 3: what she's doing it for.
Speaker 1: It's just a bummer because I did have hope that, like,
Speaker 1: even though she had given us so many clues that
Speaker 1: she was really just out for herself, that she wasn't
Speaker 1: going to deliver on that. But she made it clear
Speaker 1: she was.
Speaker 3: Honey.
Speaker 2: Liliver writing has said, me and the wolf is coming
Speaker 2: out Honey to expose you.
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