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Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's Up, Everybody, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Season with Peter Schrager. We are now a week

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Speaker 1: away from the NFL Draft. I put my first NFL

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Speaker 1: I put Hendon Hooker going eleven. I had the Colts

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Speaker 1: my goal was to be as accurate as possible with

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Speaker 1: to start getting conversations going with teams. I think Seattle

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Speaker 1: going with conversations. I had Jonathan Mingo going to the

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Speaker 1: Will Levis thing is it's a mind bender for me

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Speaker 1: Today's podcast is an annual tradition for me. It's before

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Speaker 1: What's up, Doc? Can We Rock? This one is gonna

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Speaker 1: All right, beautiful. We might give you an opportunity. You

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Speaker 1: it go on. Daniel Jeremiah, what's up, doc hem we

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Speaker 1: mock Let's go home. As I said in the introduction,

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Speaker 1: he's also happens to be a great friend. And this

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Speaker 1: is an annual tradition. Daniel Jeremiah aka Move the Sticks.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the season with Peter Scheger.

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Speaker 2: What's going on, buddy?

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Speaker 1: All is great. We were on a show called Mock

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Speaker 1: Draft Live yesterday on the NFL Network and you were

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And you mentioned the owner in Houston. I

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Speaker 1: Okay, so here's how it works. Yeah, so Aaron, you

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Speaker 1: the evens in this mock draft exercise, Aaron, why don't

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Speaker 2: Tails? Never fails? Let's come on, obvious. Give it to me, Aaron.

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Speaker 2: What we got we're flipping? It's tails, DJ, it's your pick.

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Speaker 1: This is crazy, all right, So for the listeners, we

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Speaker 2: I'm going to take Bryce Young first pick. I think

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Speaker 1: All right, Number two overall the Houston Texans. A bit

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Speaker 1: realize this DJ. You might know. His defensive cornator this

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Speaker 2: I know, I just wonder the only thing about that,

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Speaker 2: I like him. He's my fourth overall player. I've had

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Speaker 1: Take the right Yeah, But Dimiko is an Alabama guy, right, so.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you this one. So Chris cas Cirk wileys

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Speaker 2: Yep, Niners D line coach, and everybody's like, Okay, well

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Speaker 2: he's gonna love Tyree Wilson. He fits what they do.

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Speaker 1: That's so good Will Anderson who we might take it

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Speaker 1: the next week. I didn't realize this second most sacks

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Speaker 1: Derek Thomas. Okay, third overall. The Arizona Cardinals, new GM,

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to take Will Anderson. I'll remove the

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Speaker 2: we're not doing trades here. But of anybody that should

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Speaker 2: to me, they're the worst roster in the NFL right now.

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Speaker 2: They're not picking first, but they are the worst in

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Speaker 1: there a player that is worth trading up for that you? Like?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. That's the problem. So I think they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I mean the

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Speaker 2: thing is, I think, you know, I keep an eye

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Speaker 1: All right, So interesting, so so far we got Bryce Young,

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Speaker 1: mock drives doing that. And that's just one, two, three

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Speaker 1: colts in the spirit of our conversation. For the sake

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Speaker 2: Cult, and I don't think it's crazy. It would not

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Speaker 1: So now Seattle is fifth on the clock. Where now

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just too much. So I actually I think

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Speaker 1: They love it. CJ. Stroud goes fifth to the Seattle Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: which brings up the Detroit Lions at six something to

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, he's a great player, there's no question about that.

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Speaker 2: toughness and awareness. And if you look at that guy

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Speaker 2: I think it's between him and Gonzales. Gonzalez gives you

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Speaker 2: all the size. Weatherspoon I think is a better football player,

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Speaker 2: and they need somebody that can take the ball away.

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Speaker 2: I had the number here, whereas it the Raiders last

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Speaker 1: I like it. Falcons at a wow. You know, the

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Speaker 2: the Bears. You know, somebody told me don't sleep on

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Speaker 1: Who's there starting? Who are starting running back? Khalil Herbert

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they you know they bought they brought

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, another Texas So.

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Speaker 2: They're They're the worst. They're terrible Russian. So I know

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00:20:11,186 --> 00:20:12,706
Speaker 2: they've brought in a lot of D line and they've

426
00:20:12,706 --> 00:20:18,026
Speaker 2: made an investment there. I was gonna take Scarrotsky. You

427
00:20:18,066 --> 00:20:23,506
Speaker 2: took them right in front of me. Yeah, gosh, I

428
00:20:23,586 --> 00:20:25,106
Speaker 2: might just go and say, they're going to try and

429
00:20:25,146 --> 00:20:27,186
Speaker 2: get a big, clean player, and I'll give him a corner.

430
00:20:27,226 --> 00:20:28,266
Speaker 2: I'll give him Gonzales.

431
00:20:28,906 --> 00:20:32,586
Speaker 1: It's a good pick. It's a good pick. You can't

432
00:20:32,626 --> 00:20:35,226
Speaker 1: go wrong with that pick. Christian.

433
00:20:35,306 --> 00:20:38,466
Speaker 2: I think it's I think that the Bijon thing is

434
00:20:38,466 --> 00:20:40,786
Speaker 2: is even though they've got some backs they can line

435
00:20:40,826 --> 00:20:42,626
Speaker 2: up and play with, they don't have anybody like him,

436
00:20:42,786 --> 00:20:44,826
Speaker 2: So that would be one I wouldn't sleep on with them,

437
00:20:44,866 --> 00:20:46,146
Speaker 2: but I'll give him a corner.

438
00:20:47,106 --> 00:20:50,146
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we agree that at ten. You know,

439
00:20:50,226 --> 00:20:52,986
Speaker 1: Jim Rosenhouse is on HBO this week and he's talking

440
00:20:52,986 --> 00:20:56,506
Speaker 1: about having a team that's that's told him Jalen Carr

441
00:20:56,586 --> 00:20:58,226
Speaker 1: is going to go there now like I took him

442
00:20:58,266 --> 00:21:00,506
Speaker 1: with Detroit. If he doesn't go to Detroit. This is

443
00:21:00,546 --> 00:21:02,186
Speaker 1: a landing spot that a lot of people have the

444
00:21:02,226 --> 00:21:05,906
Speaker 1: Eagles going there. He's off the board. There's a lot

445
00:21:05,906 --> 00:21:09,506
Speaker 1: of good guys, a lot of good offensive linemen here

446
00:21:09,506 --> 00:21:11,106
Speaker 1: that are still on the board. But I think this

447
00:21:11,146 --> 00:21:13,666
Speaker 1: is the year the Eagles break the trend and for

448
00:21:13,706 --> 00:21:15,586
Speaker 1: the first time since the nineteen eighties, they take a

449
00:21:15,666 --> 00:21:20,146
Speaker 1: running back. I'll go Bijon Robinson tenth overall to the Eagles.

450
00:21:20,866 --> 00:21:23,026
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm clapping for you right now because I've been

451
00:21:23,066 --> 00:21:26,266
Speaker 2: lobbying for this and it's you know, I've worked in

452
00:21:26,266 --> 00:21:28,786
Speaker 2: that personal department for two years. I know their thoughts

453
00:21:28,786 --> 00:21:30,346
Speaker 2: on running backs and they don't do it. I think

454
00:21:30,346 --> 00:21:32,506
Speaker 2: this is a different year. I don't know, we talked

455
00:21:32,506 --> 00:21:34,106
Speaker 2: about this on TV that they kicked around. We don't

456
00:21:34,106 --> 00:21:36,266
Speaker 2: need to expound on it. But to me, I just

457
00:21:36,306 --> 00:21:38,146
Speaker 2: think it's them and the Niners. It's it's really a

458
00:21:38,146 --> 00:21:40,586
Speaker 2: two team conference right now. And that's one thing the

459
00:21:40,666 --> 00:21:42,546
Speaker 2: Niners have that they don't. I mean, they don't have

460
00:21:42,746 --> 00:21:45,106
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey's a difference maker. The Lions didn't. I mean,

461
00:21:45,106 --> 00:21:47,466
Speaker 2: I think did the Niners lose after he got there,

462
00:21:47,546 --> 00:21:50,026
Speaker 2: until they lost all the quarterbacks against the even the lost.

463
00:21:50,266 --> 00:21:52,266
Speaker 1: I think they lost. They might have lost the first

464
00:21:52,306 --> 00:21:54,106
Speaker 1: game that they played, and then I think they got

465
00:21:54,146 --> 00:21:55,986
Speaker 1: blown out by the Chiefs, and then from that point

466
00:21:55,986 --> 00:21:57,346
Speaker 1: on they liked won every game.

467
00:21:57,626 --> 00:21:59,946
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I like that one. All right, I've got

468
00:21:59,946 --> 00:22:01,026
Speaker 2: the Titans at eleven.

469
00:22:01,826 --> 00:22:04,546
Speaker 1: Hey, real quick, what's your what's your comfort? Bijon Robinson.

470
00:22:04,546 --> 00:22:06,426
Speaker 1: I've been saying Saquon on air, and people are.

471
00:22:06,546 --> 00:22:08,866
Speaker 2: I go back, I go back, old school Edrian James.

472
00:22:10,146 --> 00:22:12,706
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good one. That's really good.

473
00:22:13,266 --> 00:22:14,986
Speaker 2: I don't I mean he actually, I mean just the

474
00:22:14,986 --> 00:22:18,226
Speaker 2: way he kind of he moves around side. Yeah, he

475
00:22:18,306 --> 00:22:20,746
Speaker 2: kind of looks like LT. But I just I just

476
00:22:21,066 --> 00:22:24,946
Speaker 2: being around LT, like, I can't. I can't. I can't.

477
00:22:24,986 --> 00:22:26,746
Speaker 2: I just can't. I have too much reverence for LT.

478
00:22:26,866 --> 00:22:29,586
Speaker 2: I can't do it. But all right, we get to

479
00:22:29,626 --> 00:22:36,706
Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans here, all right, Tennessee Titans. This is

480
00:22:36,746 --> 00:22:39,986
Speaker 2: a team that's offensively challenged, to say the least. So

481
00:22:40,146 --> 00:22:42,866
Speaker 2: we're sitting here right now. They've got Anthony Richardson still

482
00:22:42,906 --> 00:22:44,826
Speaker 2: on the board, so we're in a situation. Now. We've

483
00:22:44,826 --> 00:22:46,146
Speaker 2: got a little bit of a free fall here.

484
00:22:46,186 --> 00:22:52,906
Speaker 1: Pete Richardson, and we also have Hooker still on the board.

485
00:22:52,946 --> 00:22:54,546
Speaker 1: If you're talking about the five quarterbacks.

486
00:22:54,866 --> 00:23:02,626
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the Titans note here, uh still need there

487
00:23:03,226 --> 00:23:07,666
Speaker 2: on the offensive line white out wise. I just don't

488
00:23:07,666 --> 00:23:11,066
Speaker 2: think they have any firepower. So even though he's my

489
00:23:11,466 --> 00:23:14,186
Speaker 2: second receiver, I'm going to give him Jackson Smith and

490
00:23:14,266 --> 00:23:17,266
Speaker 2: Jigba here and take off the board. They just need

491
00:23:17,306 --> 00:23:21,066
Speaker 2: some more punch. They need some more firepower offensively, So

492
00:23:21,426 --> 00:23:23,466
Speaker 2: I'll go in that direction. See if him at trailing

493
00:23:23,506 --> 00:23:24,906
Speaker 2: Burks can get them going a little bit.

494
00:23:25,386 --> 00:23:29,386
Speaker 1: All right, Now, Look, if the Texans pass on Stroud

495
00:23:29,546 --> 00:23:33,706
Speaker 1: and Levis and Richardson at two, if Richardson's sitting there

496
00:23:33,706 --> 00:23:36,506
Speaker 1: at twelve, do they say, well, it wasn't in our

497
00:23:36,546 --> 00:23:39,186
Speaker 1: plan to take quarterback. We had a very strict plan here,

498
00:23:39,226 --> 00:23:41,266
Speaker 1: and we're going to go defense and maybe whatever else

499
00:23:41,306 --> 00:23:43,786
Speaker 1: at twelve, go offensive line. But gosh, Richardson sitting there

500
00:23:43,826 --> 00:23:46,986
Speaker 1: at twelve, and then it's like we've been waiting all

501
00:23:47,026 --> 00:23:48,746
Speaker 1: these years today quarterback. Do we want to take the

502
00:23:48,826 --> 00:23:51,946
Speaker 1: fourth one off the board. That's a real tough decision.

503
00:23:52,426 --> 00:23:55,586
Speaker 1: Or do you just go offensive line, defense, build up

504
00:23:55,586 --> 00:23:56,986
Speaker 1: your team, get a wide receiver here?

505
00:23:58,306 --> 00:23:58,666
Speaker 2: Crap?

506
00:23:58,866 --> 00:24:01,586
Speaker 1: I'm going to say, Anthony Richardson twelve to the Texans,

507
00:24:01,906 --> 00:24:04,186
Speaker 1: I don't think they planned on taking them too. And

508
00:24:04,226 --> 00:24:07,186
Speaker 1: then here he is at twelve, and may your future

509
00:24:07,186 --> 00:24:09,386
Speaker 1: plans of Caleb Wilson or whoever else you might have

510
00:24:09,466 --> 00:24:11,746
Speaker 1: think can get there next year or just out the window,

511
00:24:11,786 --> 00:24:13,266
Speaker 1: and you go Anthony Richardson right here.

512
00:24:13,666 --> 00:24:17,546
Speaker 2: Okay, Anthony and Richardson off the board. Now we get

513
00:24:17,546 --> 00:24:21,426
Speaker 2: to the New York Jets. Jets could go in a

514
00:24:21,466 --> 00:24:26,106
Speaker 2: lot of different areas. Everybody always I always kick around

515
00:24:26,146 --> 00:24:29,146
Speaker 2: the idea of them taking a defensive lineman, and then

516
00:24:29,226 --> 00:24:31,426
Speaker 2: they go, that's the deepest position on our team. They're

517
00:24:31,466 --> 00:24:33,506
Speaker 2: never they would never do that, blah blah blah blah blah.

518
00:24:33,506 --> 00:24:36,346
Speaker 2: And I'm like, you know their background, you know Joe's background,

519
00:24:36,386 --> 00:24:36,906
Speaker 2: you know what they.

520
00:24:37,226 --> 00:24:40,226
Speaker 1: Just give me Joe and Sala I mean yes.

521
00:24:40,266 --> 00:24:43,026
Speaker 2: And yeah exactly, And look at where this team could

522
00:24:43,066 --> 00:24:45,306
Speaker 2: be next year. Carl Lawson is probably not going to

523
00:24:45,346 --> 00:24:48,946
Speaker 2: be there. You look at Huff is not going to

524
00:24:49,026 --> 00:24:51,186
Speaker 2: be there. So you're gonna take a couple of guys

525
00:24:51,186 --> 00:24:53,706
Speaker 2: out of that mix. And it's like, Okay, well I

526
00:24:53,706 --> 00:24:56,666
Speaker 2: wouldn't I wouldn't totally roll that out, but I still

527
00:24:56,666 --> 00:25:00,066
Speaker 2: think they've been caught with offensive line depth issues. Makai Beckton,

528
00:25:00,106 --> 00:25:01,546
Speaker 2: as much as I love him when he's on the field,

529
00:25:01,546 --> 00:25:03,266
Speaker 2: he hasn't been able to stay on the field. I

530
00:25:03,266 --> 00:25:06,666
Speaker 2: think they have to go offensive line here. For for me,

531
00:25:06,746 --> 00:25:08,346
Speaker 2: this is again, this is not the order that I

532
00:25:08,386 --> 00:25:10,106
Speaker 2: have them. This is where I'm going to say it

533
00:25:10,386 --> 00:25:13,146
Speaker 2: goes and I'll say Rodert Jones from Georgia.

534
00:25:13,386 --> 00:25:18,306
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like it, which brings up the Patriots

535
00:25:18,386 --> 00:25:23,266
Speaker 1: at fourteen. Gosh, Patriots signed Juju.

536
00:25:22,946 --> 00:25:26,506
Speaker 2: Right, Yep, They've signed Juju. And there's another wide out

537
00:25:26,546 --> 00:25:32,146
Speaker 2: there too with Juju, and they brought into Sicki at

538
00:25:32,146 --> 00:25:35,506
Speaker 2: the tight end and then yeah, there's still though there's

539
00:25:35,506 --> 00:25:37,466
Speaker 2: nobody on there. There's nobody in there receiving core that

540
00:25:37,506 --> 00:25:38,986
Speaker 2: you go like, that's a guy we have to game

541
00:25:39,026 --> 00:25:39,666
Speaker 2: plan against.

542
00:25:40,466 --> 00:25:46,306
Speaker 1: I know, I know, all right, Patriots. Patriots will go

543
00:25:47,386 --> 00:25:51,306
Speaker 1: Paris Johnson offensive line, move him inside, with him at

544
00:25:51,306 --> 00:25:53,226
Speaker 1: the tackle spot, put him at guar whatever it is,

545
00:25:53,266 --> 00:25:56,786
Speaker 1: just add to that offensive line. They did col strange

546
00:25:56,866 --> 00:25:58,866
Speaker 1: last year. They get another one this year, and they

547
00:25:58,866 --> 00:26:00,946
Speaker 1: continue to beef up the line for whoever's going to

548
00:26:00,986 --> 00:26:01,626
Speaker 1: be their long term.

549
00:26:01,586 --> 00:26:04,826
Speaker 2: Quarterback as let me just pull this up for make

550
00:26:04,826 --> 00:26:06,386
Speaker 2: sure I'm crossing them off the lift. So you go,

551
00:26:06,546 --> 00:26:10,226
Speaker 2: Paris Johnson, check him off. We've got you know, this

552
00:26:10,306 --> 00:26:12,626
Speaker 2: is one of these deals about this exercise. You know,

553
00:26:12,626 --> 00:26:14,506
Speaker 2: I think you're probably the same as me. I've said,

554
00:26:14,946 --> 00:26:18,146
Speaker 2: Nolan Smith's going to go, He's not gonna He's not

555
00:26:18,186 --> 00:26:20,706
Speaker 2: going to drop. He's sitting here, not very any And

556
00:26:20,746 --> 00:26:23,906
Speaker 2: I know the packers could look at other areas, but

557
00:26:24,026 --> 00:26:27,346
Speaker 2: to me, this gives him a fastball. I hope for

558
00:26:27,426 --> 00:26:28,706
Speaker 2: Shan Gary could stay healthy.

559
00:26:28,786 --> 00:26:31,666
Speaker 1: Yeah, but dude, like I'm gonna I'm going to tell

560
00:26:31,666 --> 00:26:34,146
Speaker 1: you something about that, the dropping and all that. Last year,

561
00:26:34,266 --> 00:26:36,626
Speaker 1: Jermaine Johnson, everyone you spoke to in the world said

562
00:26:36,626 --> 00:26:38,786
Speaker 1: he's going top ten. He's got to. The Jets are

563
00:26:38,786 --> 00:26:40,906
Speaker 1: sitting there at twenty six. The year before that, Rashan

564
00:26:41,026 --> 00:26:43,266
Speaker 1: Slater will not escape the top ten. Will that it happens.

565
00:26:43,266 --> 00:26:43,626
Speaker 1: He's sitting.

566
00:26:44,346 --> 00:26:44,986
Speaker 2: It happens.

567
00:26:45,066 --> 00:26:47,186
Speaker 1: It really does happen. And I don't want it to

568
00:26:47,186 --> 00:26:49,466
Speaker 1: happen to Nolan Smith, just as well could happen to

569
00:26:49,506 --> 00:26:52,226
Speaker 1: Bijeon or Peter Skarnski or whoever. But like this is

570
00:26:52,266 --> 00:26:54,626
Speaker 1: how the draft goes other teams take other players, and

571
00:26:54,706 --> 00:26:56,746
Speaker 1: similarly the Packers. You didn't expect in a million years

572
00:26:56,746 --> 00:26:58,426
Speaker 1: that Nolan Smith is gonna be sitting there at fifteen

573
00:26:58,866 --> 00:27:00,786
Speaker 1: and you don't want to go just defense, defense, defense

574
00:27:00,786 --> 00:27:02,026
Speaker 1: every year. But there he is.

575
00:27:02,066 --> 00:27:05,706
Speaker 2: My all counts. Great, great dude too. Character wise, all

576
00:27:05,706 --> 00:27:08,466
Speaker 2: that stuff off the charts, and they're collecting a lot

577
00:27:08,506 --> 00:27:12,346
Speaker 2: of Georgia players. They went Wyatt and kowy Walker previously.

578
00:27:12,426 --> 00:27:15,466
Speaker 2: Now they go back and dip into that. Well, so uh,

579
00:27:15,786 --> 00:27:18,666
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take care. I just thought, you know, with

580
00:27:18,666 --> 00:27:20,946
Speaker 2: with Nolan Smith, somebody brought up a great example the

581
00:27:20,946 --> 00:27:23,546
Speaker 2: other day, which was you. I was talking to a

582
00:27:23,586 --> 00:27:25,586
Speaker 2: GM about it and I was using the Hassan Reddit

583
00:27:25,626 --> 00:27:27,506
Speaker 2: company said, you know what, I think you can use

584
00:27:27,586 --> 00:27:31,106
Speaker 2: him like the Cowboys use Michael Parsons. Let him just

585
00:27:31,186 --> 00:27:32,946
Speaker 2: kind of be that walk around blitzer I think they

586
00:27:33,186 --> 00:27:35,106
Speaker 2: prefer to as a spinner and you can rush him

587
00:27:35,106 --> 00:27:36,506
Speaker 2: and play them off the ball if you want. But

588
00:27:36,626 --> 00:27:38,946
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go there, Okay, all.

589
00:27:38,906 --> 00:27:42,266
Speaker 1: Right, that's all right. And then you know you're looking

590
00:27:42,266 --> 00:27:45,026
Speaker 1: at defense still here as I went to the Commanders

591
00:27:45,066 --> 00:27:47,746
Speaker 1: and they've they're another team that's loaded on defense and

592
00:27:47,826 --> 00:27:49,626
Speaker 1: then I've got van Ness on the board, and you're like,

593
00:27:49,666 --> 00:27:51,826
Speaker 1: do you just add another pass rusher.

594
00:27:53,706 --> 00:27:53,866
Speaker 2: Right?

595
00:27:53,986 --> 00:27:57,146
Speaker 1: Like they have all those guys like you know what, Uh,

596
00:27:58,146 --> 00:28:00,946
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with h I'm gonna go with another

597
00:28:00,986 --> 00:28:03,466
Speaker 1: skill position. They last year they got Dotson in the

598
00:28:03,466 --> 00:28:07,346
Speaker 1: first round. I'm gonna go with Dalton Utah as the

599
00:28:07,626 --> 00:28:12,026
Speaker 1: sixteenth overall pick. I'm not convinced on their quarterback situation

600
00:28:12,226 --> 00:28:14,706
Speaker 1: with Brissette and Howell, but there's not a quarterback I

601
00:28:14,746 --> 00:28:17,066
Speaker 1: don't think they're taking at sixteen right there that's going

602
00:28:17,146 --> 00:28:20,106
Speaker 1: to be playing instead. So Dalton Kincaid, I like it.

603
00:28:20,586 --> 00:28:24,146
Speaker 2: I'm going to go Darnell right tackle Tennessee with the Steelers.

604
00:28:24,866 --> 00:28:27,746
Speaker 2: So the Steelers, you know, if you're looking at those

605
00:28:27,866 --> 00:28:30,666
Speaker 2: that tier of tackles, this is the last one you've got.

606
00:28:30,786 --> 00:28:34,346
Speaker 2: Rodert Jones's gone, Paris Johnson's gone. This is the next

607
00:28:34,386 --> 00:28:36,626
Speaker 2: one in line. And if you look at the corner position,

608
00:28:36,666 --> 00:28:39,026
Speaker 2: where I think they could look here as well. There's

609
00:28:39,066 --> 00:28:41,026
Speaker 2: some good names on the board, but I think the

610
00:28:41,066 --> 00:28:43,706
Speaker 2: tackle group falls off a cliff. So if you want

611
00:28:43,706 --> 00:28:45,306
Speaker 2: to tackle in a corner, I think you have to

612
00:28:45,346 --> 00:28:47,306
Speaker 2: take the tackle first and wait for the corner.

613
00:28:48,386 --> 00:28:51,106
Speaker 1: Okay, smart, that was sort of what the Giants had

614
00:28:51,106 --> 00:28:53,626
Speaker 1: the decision last year, and they said we could wait

615
00:28:53,626 --> 00:28:55,666
Speaker 1: on evan Neil, but Thibodeau is there now, We're going

616
00:28:55,746 --> 00:28:57,626
Speaker 1: to take Thibodaux right here. And then Evan Neil was

617
00:28:57,666 --> 00:29:06,426
Speaker 1: there when they were drafting Lions eighteen, Lions traded away,

618
00:29:06,746 --> 00:29:09,506
Speaker 1: they added a lot on defensive back. And yet I'm

619
00:29:09,546 --> 00:29:12,746
Speaker 1: looking at Joey Porter Junior sitting there. I believe it

620
00:29:12,786 --> 00:29:14,786
Speaker 1: was you who said this our Colleen Wolf yesterday, which

621
00:29:14,826 --> 00:29:17,826
Speaker 1: was shocking. There has never been a Penn State defense

622
00:29:18,706 --> 00:29:22,306
Speaker 1: in the first round. That's a weird statu And then

623
00:29:22,346 --> 00:29:24,106
Speaker 1: yet I'm trying to think of Penn State defensive backs

624
00:29:24,106 --> 00:29:25,866
Speaker 1: and not many come to mind. So I guess it

625
00:29:25,866 --> 00:29:28,906
Speaker 1: does make sense Joey Porter Junior will be my pick

626
00:29:28,986 --> 00:29:31,866
Speaker 1: at eighteen, meaning that their two first round picks are

627
00:29:31,986 --> 00:29:34,546
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter and Joey Porter Junior. Pretty good.

628
00:29:34,906 --> 00:29:38,906
Speaker 2: I feel like you're sliding Troy Apke personally tricky.

629
00:29:38,986 --> 00:29:40,106
Speaker 1: He's not a nice little career.

630
00:29:40,186 --> 00:29:47,026
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Tampa, Tampa is sitting here at nineteen,

631
00:29:47,346 --> 00:29:50,746
Speaker 2: and I'm looking at Head and Hooker is still being

632
00:29:50,866 --> 00:29:57,106
Speaker 2: a possibility here. He's still out there. But I think

633
00:29:57,146 --> 00:29:59,586
Speaker 2: when you look at where things are and what's still

634
00:29:59,666 --> 00:30:01,906
Speaker 2: left on the board, I think with van s still

635
00:30:01,946 --> 00:30:04,226
Speaker 2: being there, I think I'm going to lean in that direction.

636
00:30:04,626 --> 00:30:07,106
Speaker 2: I think it's about value pick at this point in time.

637
00:30:07,306 --> 00:30:10,906
Speaker 2: Give them another another weapon they can deploy on that front.

638
00:30:11,266 --> 00:30:16,066
Speaker 1: Lucas van Ness out of Iowa. I love that kid.

639
00:30:16,146 --> 00:30:17,546
Speaker 1: I love him as the town. I don't know where

640
00:30:17,546 --> 00:30:19,306
Speaker 1: he goes in the draft. I've heard someone tell me

641
00:30:19,386 --> 00:30:22,506
Speaker 1: that you know you took Nolan Smith and your mock

642
00:30:22,666 --> 00:30:25,066
Speaker 1: when van Ness is on the board, you know, van

643
00:30:25,106 --> 00:30:26,826
Speaker 1: Ness is over Smith on our board. O, my god,

644
00:30:26,826 --> 00:30:30,226
Speaker 1: that's interesting. You know the teams, teams are different, teams

645
00:30:30,226 --> 00:30:37,306
Speaker 1: are different. Seahawks they got fifth overall. Here you had

646
00:30:37,346 --> 00:30:41,146
Speaker 1: the Seahawks taking c. J. Stroud, which is awesome.

647
00:30:44,186 --> 00:30:47,066
Speaker 2: Months ago, right right, it's so good.

648
00:30:47,786 --> 00:30:58,826
Speaker 1: Seahawks back on the board and I'm gonna go Seahawks. Seahawks.

649
00:31:00,426 --> 00:31:02,706
Speaker 1: Oh man, the Seahawks are pretty loaded, you know, like

650
00:31:02,746 --> 00:31:05,586
Speaker 1: it's just like it's this fun team where they actually

651
00:31:05,706 --> 00:31:08,066
Speaker 1: with all their d fixed yesterday last year playing. They've

652
00:31:08,106 --> 00:31:19,466
Speaker 1: got a lot of talent Seahawks I will select. I'm

653
00:31:19,466 --> 00:31:27,666
Speaker 1: debating between offensive line and pass Rusher, and gosh, I'm

654
00:31:27,666 --> 00:31:31,586
Speaker 1: gonna go with Oh Cyrus Torrance out of Florida, big guard,

655
00:31:32,666 --> 00:31:35,546
Speaker 1: add another guy to block up the middle, and you've

656
00:31:35,546 --> 00:31:37,426
Speaker 1: got your Kenneth Walker and all that stuff. But I

657
00:31:37,426 --> 00:31:38,986
Speaker 1: did not have him in my first round in my

658
00:31:39,026 --> 00:31:42,946
Speaker 1: mock draft. I've not heard him use many places. Second

659
00:31:42,946 --> 00:31:46,106
Speaker 1: pick in top twenty, here we go, O Cyrus Torrance

660
00:31:46,106 --> 00:31:47,266
Speaker 1: did not see that happening, all right?

661
00:31:47,546 --> 00:31:53,426
Speaker 2: I like it. That leaves me with the Chargers, right, So, yep,

662
00:31:54,146 --> 00:31:58,066
Speaker 2: a lot of different ways they can go. I'm going

663
00:31:58,146 --> 00:32:01,586
Speaker 2: to go knowing full well what they already have in

664
00:32:01,586 --> 00:32:05,266
Speaker 2: this position group and knowing that I don't know how

665
00:32:05,306 --> 00:32:08,426
Speaker 2: long it's going to continue with Keenan and Mike together there.

666
00:32:08,586 --> 00:32:11,066
Speaker 2: And I love Josh Palmer is a really good player.

667
00:32:11,346 --> 00:32:15,186
Speaker 2: But I've developed this thing called the Mahomes doctrine. Feel

668
00:32:15,226 --> 00:32:17,986
Speaker 2: free to take it. But the Mahomes doctrine states that

669
00:32:18,026 --> 00:32:20,306
Speaker 2: if you were in the AFC, no such thing as

670
00:32:20,306 --> 00:32:22,186
Speaker 2: having too many weapons or too much offense.

671
00:32:22,346 --> 00:32:23,666
Speaker 1: There's not enough love it.

672
00:32:23,746 --> 00:32:25,746
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go Jordan. I'm gonna go Jordan Adison

673
00:32:25,866 --> 00:32:27,946
Speaker 2: to the Chargers here, throw him in their receivers.

674
00:32:28,146 --> 00:32:31,186
Speaker 1: Pick I hear that. You could also say you can

675
00:32:31,226 --> 00:32:33,986
Speaker 1: never have enough pass rushers in the Mahomes world.

676
00:32:34,026 --> 00:32:35,866
Speaker 2: I know, but I know they played on an ice rink.

677
00:32:35,906 --> 00:32:37,946
Speaker 2: But even with all the pass rushers last year against

678
00:32:37,946 --> 00:32:40,826
Speaker 2: the Chiefs did end up mattering. I mean, I know,

679
00:32:41,186 --> 00:32:41,386
Speaker 2: I know.

680
00:32:48,746 --> 00:32:52,506
Speaker 1: Gosh Ravens. All right, here's the one from left fields.

681
00:32:52,626 --> 00:32:54,506
Speaker 1: Didn't have him in my first round, and yet I

682
00:32:54,506 --> 00:32:56,946
Speaker 1: love them and everyone on the scouting community that I

683
00:32:56,986 --> 00:32:58,746
Speaker 1: talked to you say, well, it probably wouldn't be our pick,

684
00:32:58,786 --> 00:33:00,866
Speaker 1: but you didn't include him in your first round? Why

685
00:33:00,906 --> 00:33:05,546
Speaker 1: not going with a manual four in Mississippi state one

686
00:33:05,626 --> 00:33:08,946
Speaker 1: hundred and six, see five pounds at the combine you

687
00:33:09,066 --> 00:33:09,586
Speaker 1: slided him.

688
00:33:09,586 --> 00:33:11,666
Speaker 2: He was one sixty six, one sixty six.

689
00:33:11,626 --> 00:33:13,626
Speaker 1: One sixty six, beefed up. I believe that is.

690
00:33:15,066 --> 00:33:15,306
Speaker 2: Big.

691
00:33:15,546 --> 00:33:19,946
Speaker 1: Yeah. Is there a body type like him?

692
00:33:20,026 --> 00:33:23,866
Speaker 2: I was with role with the Ravens and he worked right. Yeah,

693
00:33:23,866 --> 00:33:27,346
Speaker 2: he was great. So there's a couple of annual forbes.

694
00:33:27,466 --> 00:33:30,746
Speaker 2: He's a freak. He's got unbelievable ball skills. Another one,

695
00:33:30,826 --> 00:33:33,186
Speaker 2: Fred Smoot, had a similar body type back in the day.

696
00:33:33,466 --> 00:33:37,026
Speaker 1: Really, okay, all right, you're up with the Vikings and

697
00:33:37,026 --> 00:33:38,506
Speaker 1: Hendon hooker is on the board.

698
00:33:38,666 --> 00:33:45,426
Speaker 2: No Hendon hooker is there? Man else I would potentially

699
00:33:45,466 --> 00:33:46,026
Speaker 2: go here?

700
00:33:49,146 --> 00:33:49,506
Speaker 1: Mmmm.

701
00:33:51,106 --> 00:33:54,066
Speaker 2: I like Hendon Hookers, but I almost I almost liked

702
00:33:54,066 --> 00:33:57,546
Speaker 2: the idea of me passing on to see, yeah, see

703
00:33:57,586 --> 00:33:58,746
Speaker 2: what you can do, and me look at the rest

704
00:33:58,786 --> 00:34:01,746
Speaker 2: of these teams that there's not really a it's not

705
00:34:01,826 --> 00:34:06,026
Speaker 2: really the Yeah, there's one possibility still remaining. So I

706
00:34:06,146 --> 00:34:07,666
Speaker 2: want to keep handing a hooker on the board for

707
00:34:07,746 --> 00:34:09,706
Speaker 2: you because I want to see what else you what

708
00:34:09,866 --> 00:34:12,226
Speaker 2: else you have on From an information standpoint, I'm going

709
00:34:12,266 --> 00:34:15,066
Speaker 2: to be selfish. I'm going to look at the Minnesota Vikings.

710
00:34:19,306 --> 00:34:22,066
Speaker 2: I'm going to give the Minnesota Vikings Deontay Banks a

711
00:34:22,146 --> 00:34:23,026
Speaker 2: corner from Maryland.

712
00:34:24,146 --> 00:34:27,266
Speaker 1: Yep, good player. I was going to go ahead or

713
00:34:27,386 --> 00:34:28,866
Speaker 1: Forbes to the Ravens there.

714
00:34:30,026 --> 00:34:32,426
Speaker 2: I almost went Deyontay Banks to the Chargers too. I

715
00:34:32,666 --> 00:34:33,786
Speaker 2: could make that case too.

716
00:34:34,466 --> 00:34:38,946
Speaker 1: That's about where he'll go. He's here, and the other

717
00:34:39,026 --> 00:34:40,546
Speaker 1: guy who's going to go here, who I'm going to

718
00:34:40,586 --> 00:34:43,746
Speaker 1: probably take with the Jaguars pick Let me see if

719
00:34:43,986 --> 00:34:44,226
Speaker 1: you can.

720
00:34:45,386 --> 00:34:47,106
Speaker 2: I'm already get inside your head. I already know what

721
00:34:47,226 --> 00:34:48,186
Speaker 2: you're doing here, what you're.

722
00:34:48,026 --> 00:34:50,506
Speaker 1: Doing, and that is exactly right. Brian Branch will be

723
00:34:50,546 --> 00:34:52,786
Speaker 1: the pick for the Jaguars here. He's the perfect pick

724
00:34:52,866 --> 00:34:55,786
Speaker 1: for this selection. Good placement. And you said yesterday on

725
00:34:55,906 --> 00:34:59,106
Speaker 1: the mock draft, lot play Nickel, play inside, play outside,

726
00:34:59,146 --> 00:35:01,226
Speaker 1: and you know, just get a good football player here,

727
00:35:01,306 --> 00:35:03,746
Speaker 1: a leader and maybe the hardest hitter in the entire draft.

728
00:35:04,226 --> 00:35:07,346
Speaker 1: I like it, Giants.

729
00:35:07,586 --> 00:35:10,026
Speaker 2: I am up with the g men. I'm going to

730
00:35:10,346 --> 00:35:15,226
Speaker 2: give them. I think I'm going to give them a weapon.

731
00:35:17,466 --> 00:35:19,866
Speaker 2: This is an interesting one. I have this guy as

732
00:35:19,946 --> 00:35:24,026
Speaker 2: my thirty first overall player, and teams are split. Some

733
00:35:24,306 --> 00:35:26,946
Speaker 2: like him significantly better than that. Other teams are not

734
00:35:26,946 --> 00:35:28,866
Speaker 2: a high on him. He's got inconsistent hands. But Quentin

735
00:35:28,986 --> 00:35:32,746
Speaker 2: Johnson from TCU has he just got an intriguing skill set.

736
00:35:32,786 --> 00:35:34,826
Speaker 2: He's one of the few big receivers in this draft.

737
00:35:35,026 --> 00:35:38,306
Speaker 2: He plays faster than he timed. And so give the

738
00:35:38,386 --> 00:35:39,826
Speaker 2: Giants so another weapon here.

739
00:35:40,346 --> 00:35:43,346
Speaker 1: So I put Jay Flowers in my mock draft, and

740
00:35:43,426 --> 00:35:45,746
Speaker 1: Quentin Johnson was on the board, and multiple people are

741
00:35:45,786 --> 00:35:47,546
Speaker 1: in the league text to me and said, looking at it,

742
00:35:47,666 --> 00:35:50,626
Speaker 1: like your order of your receivers might be off. If

743
00:35:50,786 --> 00:35:53,386
Speaker 1: the Giants who took wan Dale Robinson last year were

744
00:35:53,466 --> 00:35:55,706
Speaker 1: to take Zay Flowers. That wouldn't make sense. You're looking

745
00:35:55,746 --> 00:35:58,066
Speaker 1: to do a basketball team, Quintin Johnson makes more sense

746
00:35:58,106 --> 00:36:04,906
Speaker 1: for the Giants, all right? Uh? Cowboys? Cowboys again. Colleen

747
00:36:04,946 --> 00:36:07,106
Speaker 1: Wolf mentioned this on Good Morning Football. She was filling in,

748
00:36:07,226 --> 00:36:09,626
Speaker 1: like have a really good track record in the first round.

749
00:36:09,706 --> 00:36:11,746
Speaker 1: I think you want to, you know, poke at like

750
00:36:11,866 --> 00:36:14,146
Speaker 1: the Cowboys for being this dramatic team, Like they picked

751
00:36:14,186 --> 00:36:16,906
Speaker 1: solid players, they all end up playing roles that first year.

752
00:36:17,786 --> 00:36:20,546
Speaker 1: Who would they take though? Let's see here, who's on

753
00:36:20,666 --> 00:36:23,786
Speaker 1: the board. Who do we got? All the tackles are gone.

754
00:36:24,306 --> 00:36:27,746
Speaker 2: I got one sticking out on them of considering what

755
00:36:27,866 --> 00:36:31,986
Speaker 2: they lost last and free agency at a franchise tight

756
00:36:32,106 --> 00:36:34,226
Speaker 2: end that they lost let walk away.

757
00:36:34,946 --> 00:36:36,746
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz is your franchise tight ends.

758
00:36:36,786 --> 00:36:39,106
Speaker 2: But they franchised them, so it makes them he was

759
00:36:39,186 --> 00:36:42,786
Speaker 2: their franchise place semantics over here, Peter, come on.

760
00:36:43,706 --> 00:36:48,746
Speaker 1: Sorry, that's interesting because you've got not only the Georgia

761
00:36:48,826 --> 00:36:51,106
Speaker 1: kid Washington, you also have Michael Meyer from Notre Dame,

762
00:36:51,146 --> 00:36:53,106
Speaker 1: and then you also have who I think is getting

763
00:36:53,106 --> 00:36:57,186
Speaker 1: the Iowa kid, Laporta. He's getting he's getting some buzz.

764
00:36:57,226 --> 00:36:58,866
Speaker 1: But I'm going to go running back here you also

765
00:36:58,946 --> 00:37:01,666
Speaker 1: want to seek Elliott. I'm going to go Jamior Gibbs.

766
00:37:01,706 --> 00:37:03,546
Speaker 1: I'm going to give them the running back out of

767
00:37:03,586 --> 00:37:06,506
Speaker 1: Alabama and say firepower. You can use them as a

768
00:37:06,546 --> 00:37:08,746
Speaker 1: wide receiver at times in that kind of passing game.

769
00:37:08,786 --> 00:37:10,946
Speaker 1: I'm going to say they need just talent on offense here.

770
00:37:10,986 --> 00:37:13,026
Speaker 1: I'm going to say Jamir Gibs running back out of

771
00:37:13,026 --> 00:37:19,946
Speaker 1: Alabama to the Cowboys. I like it, Bills, the Buffalo Bills.

772
00:37:22,746 --> 00:37:28,106
Speaker 2: I mean I like the wide receiver here. Again, going

773
00:37:28,146 --> 00:37:33,386
Speaker 2: back to Myama homes doctrine theory, I know Jack Campbell,

774
00:37:33,466 --> 00:37:35,986
Speaker 2: linebacker from Iowa. I would not sleep on that here

775
00:37:36,226 --> 00:37:40,666
Speaker 2: with what they lost the free agency. So no Tremaine Edmonds.

776
00:37:40,746 --> 00:37:44,946
Speaker 2: Is it Jack Campbell to replace him? I'm gonna go

777
00:37:45,026 --> 00:37:46,586
Speaker 2: I want to get a new name in the mix here,

778
00:37:46,946 --> 00:37:48,826
Speaker 2: so I'm going to give you Matthew. I'm going to

779
00:37:48,866 --> 00:37:53,946
Speaker 2: give you Matthew Bergeron. He's a tackle guard from Syracuse

780
00:37:54,386 --> 00:37:57,706
Speaker 2: that has a lot of love on the streets for him.

781
00:37:58,066 --> 00:38:01,266
Speaker 2: He's a good player. I liked him. I thought he's

782
00:38:01,306 --> 00:38:03,546
Speaker 2: the second round guy. But I think because we have

783
00:38:04,066 --> 00:38:06,186
Speaker 2: you know, he's next in line. When you look at

784
00:38:06,226 --> 00:38:08,266
Speaker 2: the the linemen that are already gone. I think he's

785
00:38:08,266 --> 00:38:09,986
Speaker 2: going to go up higher than people think. So let's

786
00:38:10,066 --> 00:38:12,666
Speaker 2: let's get him on the board to identify him. All right,

787
00:38:12,706 --> 00:38:13,546
Speaker 2: He'll play guard for them.

788
00:38:13,586 --> 00:38:15,786
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this. I love it, and I'm gonna

789
00:38:15,786 --> 00:38:18,466
Speaker 1: do the same thing with my next pick. Because I'm

790
00:38:18,466 --> 00:38:21,346
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals. I believe I gave them a tight

791
00:38:21,506 --> 00:38:23,786
Speaker 1: end in my mock draw. I'm gonna change it up here.

792
00:38:25,266 --> 00:38:27,226
Speaker 1: You've probably been talking about him a lot more than

793
00:38:27,266 --> 00:38:28,746
Speaker 1: I have. I didn't have my first round and I

794
00:38:28,786 --> 00:38:31,706
Speaker 1: got multiple text saying you didn't include this player. I'm

795
00:38:31,706 --> 00:38:37,906
Speaker 1: gonna go Anton Harrison out of Oklahoma offensive tackle. I

796
00:38:38,026 --> 00:38:39,866
Speaker 1: know some teams have him in their top five at

797
00:38:39,866 --> 00:38:42,346
Speaker 1: the position. Others say not in our top ten in

798
00:38:42,386 --> 00:38:45,266
Speaker 1: the position. I think I'm going to go offensive line,

799
00:38:45,386 --> 00:38:48,586
Speaker 1: especially if Jonah Williams is asking to be true. I

800
00:38:48,626 --> 00:38:50,586
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on with their offensive line. Bengals.

801
00:38:50,626 --> 00:38:53,146
Speaker 1: They add another one, Anton Harrison at Oklahoma.

802
00:38:53,306 --> 00:38:56,506
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting there are I'm probably in the lower

803
00:38:56,626 --> 00:38:59,186
Speaker 2: camp on him, but I know he does have sponsors.

804
00:38:59,226 --> 00:39:01,826
Speaker 2: And look, the Bengals just going to Boomer Sooner with

805
00:39:01,946 --> 00:39:04,906
Speaker 2: the Orlando Brown and Anton Harrison as the bookends.

806
00:39:04,986 --> 00:39:08,426
Speaker 1: There, there you go, all right, the Saint Joe Mixon

807
00:39:08,466 --> 00:39:09,146
Speaker 1: in the backfield.

808
00:39:09,506 --> 00:39:12,466
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, all right, we get to the Saints here, Peter.

809
00:39:12,746 --> 00:39:15,346
Speaker 2: I mean, now, at this point in time, I wasn't

810
00:39:15,346 --> 00:39:17,706
Speaker 2: even looking at the I wasn't looking at the fact

811
00:39:17,706 --> 00:39:19,426
Speaker 2: that this was an odd team and not an even

812
00:39:19,466 --> 00:39:21,626
Speaker 2: team because I wanted you to have to make this decision.

813
00:39:22,386 --> 00:39:23,666
Speaker 2: But here I am faced with it.

814
00:39:24,306 --> 00:39:26,106
Speaker 1: What I'm doing a thing on the show tomorrow. What

815
00:39:26,786 --> 00:39:29,066
Speaker 1: Mickey loomis. I mean, they're the kind of team that

816
00:39:29,226 --> 00:39:31,866
Speaker 1: they've hit so many guys that they also aren't scared

817
00:39:31,906 --> 00:39:33,386
Speaker 1: to take the guy that no one else will. So

818
00:39:33,986 --> 00:39:35,866
Speaker 1: what was it Peyton Henderson? What was his name? The

819
00:39:35,906 --> 00:39:41,186
Speaker 1: guy Peyton? Peyton Turner and Marcus Davinpored a couple of

820
00:39:41,226 --> 00:39:43,266
Speaker 1: years you were trading up for. Like, they're one of

821
00:39:43,306 --> 00:39:45,586
Speaker 1: those teams that Mickey takes his guys and he's like,

822
00:39:45,666 --> 00:39:48,066
Speaker 1: I'll deal with the criticism. Just I trust what I know,

823
00:39:48,306 --> 00:39:50,946
Speaker 1: So go for it. Anything off the board with Mickey.

824
00:39:51,466 --> 00:39:54,186
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gosh, I was looking to go kind

825
00:39:54,186 --> 00:39:56,026
Speaker 2: of off the board here, but I think I'm gonna

826
00:39:56,066 --> 00:40:02,506
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go conservative. Let me just look at one

827
00:40:02,546 --> 00:40:04,466
Speaker 2: more thing here to make sure that I'm not missing it.

828
00:40:06,226 --> 00:40:08,026
Speaker 2: I'm is going to take Mayor here. I'm just going

829
00:40:08,106 --> 00:40:13,426
Speaker 2: to take a tight end. I sold security blanket. Yeah,

830
00:40:14,226 --> 00:40:17,746
Speaker 2: Notre Dame, well, Notre Dame tight end. Just a good

831
00:40:17,786 --> 00:40:20,226
Speaker 2: all round player. I think he's one in a draft

832
00:40:20,306 --> 00:40:23,906
Speaker 2: where there's a lot of guys who don't fit the

833
00:40:24,026 --> 00:40:27,946
Speaker 2: specs undersize, there's there's all these question marks, like he

834
00:40:28,106 --> 00:40:29,866
Speaker 2: might not ever be an a lead elite player, but

835
00:40:29,986 --> 00:40:31,306
Speaker 2: he's going to be a good player. I feel like

836
00:40:31,346 --> 00:40:33,626
Speaker 2: he's one of the few known quantities in this draft.

837
00:40:34,226 --> 00:40:37,306
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know how you loved and I always

838
00:40:37,386 --> 00:40:39,106
Speaker 1: think of when it comes to tight ends. You loved

839
00:40:39,186 --> 00:40:44,186
Speaker 1: Howkinson that you were right. He was great this year

840
00:40:44,266 --> 00:40:50,906
Speaker 1: for the Vikings. You know, Eagles, pass rushing offensive line,

841
00:40:50,946 --> 00:40:53,786
Speaker 1: pass rushing offensive line. I already went off the board

842
00:40:53,866 --> 00:40:57,946
Speaker 1: with a running back and Jon Robinson. That's not what

843
00:40:58,026 --> 00:41:00,986
Speaker 1: a j do. Will McDonald the fourth, We'll go out

844
00:41:00,986 --> 00:41:04,906
Speaker 1: of Iowa State, send him to Philly and uh turn

845
00:41:04,946 --> 00:41:08,026
Speaker 1: them loose, let him fly. You know, people like him

846
00:41:08,026 --> 00:41:09,826
Speaker 1: in the league. I guess he's a first round pick.

847
00:41:09,866 --> 00:41:13,546
Speaker 1: It's not his early second. So got a Matt Campbell,

848
00:41:14,626 --> 00:41:17,426
Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni connection there. Those guys are tight. So we'll

849
00:41:17,466 --> 00:41:19,386
Speaker 1: go there last pick on the draft, and there are

850
00:41:19,386 --> 00:41:20,386
Speaker 1: a lot of guys left.

851
00:41:20,826 --> 00:41:23,106
Speaker 2: No, I think I have no choice here. I'm going

852
00:41:23,186 --> 00:41:24,066
Speaker 2: to take Miles Murphy.

853
00:41:24,706 --> 00:41:25,906
Speaker 1: Miles mary had a Clemson.

854
00:41:26,266 --> 00:41:29,266
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's my twenty second player. He's you know, he

855
00:41:29,386 --> 00:41:32,106
Speaker 2: kind of fits that big, sturdy, rugged edge rusher. You

856
00:41:32,146 --> 00:41:34,666
Speaker 2: think about Frank Clark, the type of guys they like

857
00:41:34,746 --> 00:41:38,466
Speaker 2: to play with Carl Loftis. Those guys are big, physical guys,

858
00:41:38,666 --> 00:41:41,626
Speaker 2: and I think Murphy would fit that. So Frank Clark

859
00:41:41,866 --> 00:41:43,986
Speaker 2: is gone, and now you just throw him in there

860
00:41:44,026 --> 00:41:45,226
Speaker 2: with Carl Loftis and off you go.

861
00:41:45,826 --> 00:41:48,026
Speaker 1: All right, So DJ at the end, there we went

862
00:41:48,546 --> 00:41:53,746
Speaker 1: gibbs bergeron Harrison Meyer, McDonald, Murphy. I'll recap the entire

863
00:41:53,786 --> 00:41:55,426
Speaker 1: first round, but let me just give you some names.

864
00:41:55,866 --> 00:41:58,106
Speaker 1: Let's go to your top fifty. Some guys that names

865
00:41:58,106 --> 00:42:00,186
Speaker 1: did not come up. Your twenty second ranked player is

866
00:42:00,266 --> 00:42:02,866
Speaker 1: Zay Flowers. We did not select him in the first

867
00:42:02,986 --> 00:42:10,586
Speaker 1: round of this draft. Elijah Cansey was not selected in

868
00:42:10,746 --> 00:42:14,946
Speaker 1: this draft. Banks was twenty five. Darnell Washington was not

869
00:42:15,146 --> 00:42:18,186
Speaker 1: selected in this draft. Canty. You mentioned Keon White at

870
00:42:18,226 --> 00:42:22,386
Speaker 1: a Georgia Tech not drafted in this draft, and uh,

871
00:42:22,586 --> 00:42:25,226
Speaker 1: Brian Branch was, and then Felix and then Duke.

872
00:42:26,306 --> 00:42:28,626
Speaker 2: It was that was gonna be my pick, and that

873
00:42:28,746 --> 00:42:30,786
Speaker 2: in my last in my final mock draft. What I

874
00:42:30,826 --> 00:42:32,386
Speaker 2: got to do next week? He might be my pick

875
00:42:32,466 --> 00:42:35,866
Speaker 2: for Casey. So yeah, I like Casey taking it, taking

876
00:42:35,906 --> 00:42:38,226
Speaker 2: one of these rugged edgereshers and somehow but in the

877
00:42:38,266 --> 00:42:40,586
Speaker 2: way we did this time, you had Murphy there, so

878
00:42:40,586 --> 00:42:41,466
Speaker 2: I was taking.

879
00:42:42,146 --> 00:42:44,186
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking around, I'm looking at any of there

880
00:42:44,186 --> 00:42:46,426
Speaker 1: are any huge names that didn't get drafted, no other

881
00:42:46,506 --> 00:42:49,466
Speaker 1: than that the Hendon Hooker. So Hooker doesn't get drafted

882
00:42:49,506 --> 00:42:51,946
Speaker 1: if we do it this way, would that shock you

883
00:42:52,026 --> 00:42:53,226
Speaker 1: if you fell out of the first round.

884
00:42:54,306 --> 00:42:56,306
Speaker 2: No, I mean if you told me that Hendon Hooker

885
00:42:56,386 --> 00:42:58,266
Speaker 2: was the eleventh pick, or Hendon Hooker went in the

886
00:42:58,346 --> 00:43:02,386
Speaker 2: third round, that sounds crazy to say that, but I wouldn't.

887
00:43:02,426 --> 00:43:04,466
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be shocked. It's a weird draft. It's a

888
00:43:04,546 --> 00:43:08,306
Speaker 2: weird situation with him age, injury, offense, Like, there's some

889
00:43:08,466 --> 00:43:11,626
Speaker 2: questions there. I love the skill set, I love everything

890
00:43:11,626 --> 00:43:14,026
Speaker 2: I've heard about him, and I can make a case

891
00:43:14,066 --> 00:43:15,666
Speaker 2: to take him there. But I can also make a

892
00:43:15,746 --> 00:43:19,066
Speaker 2: case of people saying there's just, you know, too many questions.

893
00:43:19,146 --> 00:43:19,506
Speaker 2: We'll wait.

894
00:43:20,386 --> 00:43:24,186
Speaker 1: I believe there were thirteen trades on Day one last year.

895
00:43:24,266 --> 00:43:25,746
Speaker 1: Does that sound like it's too much? I think that's

896
00:43:25,746 --> 00:43:29,706
Speaker 1: the stat I got thirteen, So all of this could

897
00:43:29,746 --> 00:43:31,906
Speaker 1: be moot. But DJ, do you want do you have

898
00:43:32,026 --> 00:43:33,786
Speaker 1: two seconds for me to just go through the entire

899
00:43:33,866 --> 00:43:38,346
Speaker 1: draft real quick? Go for it, Aaron, I'm going to

900
00:43:38,426 --> 00:43:41,906
Speaker 1: just rattle them off, all right. Panthers one Bryce Young,

901
00:43:42,386 --> 00:43:48,146
Speaker 1: two Texans Tyree Wilson, three Cardinals, Will Anderson, four Colts.

902
00:43:48,226 --> 00:43:52,986
Speaker 1: Take Will Levis over CJ. Stroud, five Seahawks c J.

903
00:43:53,306 --> 00:43:56,266
Speaker 1: Stroud to the Seattle Seahawks. No one has that anywhere.

904
00:43:56,386 --> 00:44:01,426
Speaker 1: That's why I do this. Six Lions, Jalen Carter, seven

905
00:44:01,586 --> 00:44:08,626
Speaker 1: Raiders Devin Witherspoon, eight Falcons Peter Scornski, nine Bears Christian Gonzales,

906
00:44:08,706 --> 00:44:14,306
Speaker 1: ten Eagles Byjon Robinson, eleven Titans Jackson Smith, Najibba, I

907
00:44:14,346 --> 00:44:16,186
Speaker 1: always get it wrong? What is it? Nijigba?

908
00:44:16,346 --> 00:44:19,666
Speaker 2: Did I in jig in jigba? You're quote myself?

909
00:44:19,786 --> 00:44:24,226
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm Jis constant Texans twelve. No one

910
00:44:24,346 --> 00:44:26,266
Speaker 1: has them taking a quarterback with that to I mean

911
00:44:26,626 --> 00:44:28,586
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, He's sitting there. I don't know if that's

912
00:44:28,586 --> 00:44:31,546
Speaker 1: why you draft him one, but gosh, what do we

913
00:44:31,626 --> 00:44:34,106
Speaker 1: do with Richardson? What do you if he I.

914
00:44:34,106 --> 00:44:35,826
Speaker 2: Don't know where to put him. I don't. I don't

915
00:44:35,946 --> 00:44:38,066
Speaker 2: like I haven't talked to somebody that says, you know

916
00:44:38,146 --> 00:44:40,306
Speaker 2: what this team is a Richard like. I've talked to

917
00:44:40,626 --> 00:44:43,386
Speaker 2: zillion people that say the cults are eleves. Now, I

918
00:44:43,506 --> 00:44:44,946
Speaker 2: haven't talked to any I just don't know where to

919
00:44:44,986 --> 00:44:46,306
Speaker 2: put him. Gosh.

920
00:44:46,786 --> 00:44:52,266
Speaker 1: Thirteen Jets, Broderick Jones, fourteen Patriots Paris Johnson, fifteen Packers

921
00:44:52,386 --> 00:44:55,106
Speaker 1: Nolan Smith, another Georgia defender. You're right, they took two

922
00:44:55,146 --> 00:44:59,106
Speaker 1: in the first round last year. Sixteen Commanders, Dalton Kincaid

923
00:44:59,186 --> 00:45:02,426
Speaker 1: at a Utah tight end, seventeen Steelers Darnell Right, offensive

924
00:45:02,466 --> 00:45:05,586
Speaker 1: tackle at a Tennessee Lions. Joey Porter junior out of

925
00:45:05,626 --> 00:45:10,026
Speaker 1: Penn State Buccaneers, Lucas van Ness out of Iowa Seahawks.

926
00:45:10,266 --> 00:45:12,186
Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell I was doing here, Oh,

927
00:45:12,426 --> 00:45:16,946
Speaker 1: Cyrus Torrence twentieth overall sull Could it be? I don't know, right,

928
00:45:17,266 --> 00:45:22,226
Speaker 1: big guy who knows twenty one Chargers, Jordan Addison wide

929
00:45:22,266 --> 00:45:27,226
Speaker 1: receiver to USC Ravens twenty two, Emmanuel Forbes Vikings they

930
00:45:27,306 --> 00:45:30,706
Speaker 1: go corner as well, Deontay Banks Jaguars go corner as well.

931
00:45:30,786 --> 00:45:36,226
Speaker 1: Brian Branch Giants, Quintin Johnson wide receiver, TCU, Cowboys, Jamior

932
00:45:36,306 --> 00:45:41,506
Speaker 1: Gibbs running back at Alabama, Bill's Matthew bergeron offensive lineman

933
00:45:41,546 --> 00:45:46,426
Speaker 1: out of Syracuse, Bengals, Anton Harrison, offensive lineman at Oklahoma,

934
00:45:46,986 --> 00:45:50,986
Speaker 1: Saint Michael Mayer out of Notre Dame Eagles, Will McDonald

935
00:45:51,546 --> 00:45:54,426
Speaker 1: the fourth out of Iowa State, and then Miles Murphy

936
00:45:54,466 --> 00:45:56,826
Speaker 1: out of Clemson finishes out the first round going to

937
00:45:56,906 --> 00:45:59,466
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. That's a first round, folks. That is a

938
00:45:59,546 --> 00:46:00,026
Speaker 1: first round.

939
00:46:00,106 --> 00:46:01,466
Speaker 2: Thirty one for thirty one, I nailed it.

940
00:46:02,386 --> 00:46:02,986
Speaker 1: That was fun.

941
00:46:03,306 --> 00:46:05,266
Speaker 2: It's good stuff, man, It's a good exercise. And again

942
00:46:06,106 --> 00:46:08,546
Speaker 2: I always tell people, one of my pet peeves through

943
00:46:08,586 --> 00:46:11,746
Speaker 2: this process is not specifically mock draft related, but is

944
00:46:11,826 --> 00:46:16,226
Speaker 2: when when people can throw out this guy's a top

945
00:46:16,466 --> 00:46:18,866
Speaker 2: he's a first round pick. This guy is a top

946
00:46:18,946 --> 00:46:20,626
Speaker 2: fifty pick all day long, and it's like, well, if

947
00:46:20,666 --> 00:46:22,666
Speaker 2: I add up all the guys that you've said our

948
00:46:22,706 --> 00:46:25,666
Speaker 2: first round picks, Like, there's not forty five of these

949
00:46:25,706 --> 00:46:27,626
Speaker 2: guys going in the first round. So we got to

950
00:46:27,626 --> 00:46:29,666
Speaker 2: stop saying all these guys are first round picks. When

951
00:46:29,666 --> 00:46:32,186
Speaker 2: you do an exercise like this, you realize there's some

952
00:46:32,386 --> 00:46:34,306
Speaker 2: really good players that aren't going to get picked in

953
00:46:34,306 --> 00:46:35,546
Speaker 2: the first round in the NFL.

954
00:46:35,946 --> 00:46:37,986
Speaker 1: I don't know, is it still Gil Brandt who does it?

955
00:46:38,146 --> 00:46:41,306
Speaker 1: Like the NFL invites these guys and everyone assumes that,

956
00:46:41,626 --> 00:46:44,146
Speaker 1: like the rig is in if they got invited to

957
00:46:44,186 --> 00:46:46,026
Speaker 1: the draft and they're attending, they're going in the first round.

958
00:46:46,066 --> 00:46:48,586
Speaker 1: That's not the case. How many drafts do you have

959
00:46:48,666 --> 00:46:50,666
Speaker 1: to be at where you realize there's usually five to

960
00:46:50,786 --> 00:46:52,466
Speaker 1: six guys in that green room the next day who

961
00:46:52,506 --> 00:46:53,666
Speaker 1: were not selected day one.

962
00:46:54,466 --> 00:46:57,306
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I always say there's probably four guys that

963
00:46:57,346 --> 00:46:59,866
Speaker 2: get invited every year that if you be honest, they

964
00:46:59,906 --> 00:47:00,546
Speaker 2: pack too soon.

965
00:47:01,786 --> 00:47:04,986
Speaker 1: All right, Danel Jeremiah so excited for your work next week.

966
00:47:05,026 --> 00:47:06,786
Speaker 1: You're going to be doing a lot of stuff obviously

967
00:47:06,866 --> 00:47:10,666
Speaker 1: throughout the week, but most importantly Thursday night, Draft Night.

968
00:47:10,706 --> 00:47:12,626
Speaker 1: I am an unabashed fan of our coverage of the

969
00:47:12,786 --> 00:47:15,186
Speaker 1: NFL network. I know I'm very biased, but I know

970
00:47:15,266 --> 00:47:18,186
Speaker 1: we're doing crossover stuff with ESPN, I beg of every

971
00:47:18,266 --> 00:47:21,666
Speaker 1: listener put on NFL Network Night one, Night two, and

972
00:47:21,746 --> 00:47:24,346
Speaker 1: then when you and I joined forces the special Day three,

973
00:47:24,426 --> 00:47:26,546
Speaker 1: when we're on the table together, some of my favorite moments.

974
00:47:27,906 --> 00:47:31,386
Speaker 2: I know what you just said, and I agree with you,

975
00:47:31,466 --> 00:47:33,466
Speaker 2: except for one thing I will dispute. You said. My

976
00:47:33,586 --> 00:47:37,066
Speaker 2: favorite thing is Thursday Night. But my favorite thing is

977
00:47:37,186 --> 00:47:38,066
Speaker 2: not Thursday night.

978
00:47:38,186 --> 00:47:40,626
Speaker 1: Talk about Saturday night. Talk about it is.

979
00:47:40,746 --> 00:47:45,026
Speaker 2: My favorite thing is Sunday night or no, Saturday, Nurday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday,

980
00:47:45,146 --> 00:47:47,746
Speaker 2: Saturday Night. Me and Shregs. I'm holding up a picture

981
00:47:47,786 --> 00:47:49,426
Speaker 2: right now. You're listening. You don't know what I'm doing.

982
00:47:49,986 --> 00:47:51,586
Speaker 2: It's a picture of me and Shreggs having a nice

983
00:47:51,666 --> 00:47:53,946
Speaker 2: romantic dinner at the belagio next to the window with

984
00:47:54,066 --> 00:47:54,466
Speaker 2: the fountain.

985
00:47:54,746 --> 00:47:58,186
Speaker 1: We got a reservation at a hotel last here at

986
00:47:58,306 --> 00:48:02,026
Speaker 1: five thirty Saturday after the draft, and it was at

987
00:48:02,026 --> 00:48:03,426
Speaker 1: a restaurant that I want to say, was in the

988
00:48:03,466 --> 00:48:07,506
Speaker 1: bolagio overlooking the fountains. And a man came by and said,

989
00:48:07,866 --> 00:48:09,946
Speaker 1: I will take your photograph because it was so romantic.

990
00:48:09,986 --> 00:48:11,866
Speaker 1: They thought we were a couple. I will take your

991
00:48:11,906 --> 00:48:14,106
Speaker 1: photograph and you guys will put it in one of

992
00:48:14,146 --> 00:48:15,986
Speaker 1: these sleeves and you can have the photograph and all

993
00:48:16,026 --> 00:48:17,346
Speaker 1: this stuff, and I go, yeah, do it, do it.

994
00:48:17,746 --> 00:48:19,746
Speaker 1: And then the guy charged me fifty eight dollars for

995
00:48:19,866 --> 00:48:23,026
Speaker 1: said photograph. We split it, We split it, we split it.

996
00:48:23,146 --> 00:48:24,906
Speaker 1: And guess what's in my dressing room right now? At

997
00:48:24,946 --> 00:48:29,306
Speaker 1: Good Morning Football? There's literally like an NFL almanac. There

998
00:48:29,466 --> 00:48:32,306
Speaker 1: is a bag of high chew candy, and then there

999
00:48:32,426 --> 00:48:34,986
Speaker 1: is that picture. I don't have any pictures of my family.

1000
00:48:35,066 --> 00:48:36,826
Speaker 1: I have that picture of you and I at the

1001
00:48:36,866 --> 00:48:39,546
Speaker 1: ballagio overlooking the fountains. And guess what.

1002
00:48:39,786 --> 00:48:41,666
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see what you have cooked up

1003
00:48:41,706 --> 00:48:42,906
Speaker 2: for us this year. I can't wait.

1004
00:48:43,026 --> 00:48:45,346
Speaker 1: Annual tradition we have said, we've done this. We did this.

1005
00:48:45,426 --> 00:48:47,786
Speaker 1: I started in Nashville, and you and I both agree.

1006
00:48:47,786 --> 00:48:50,226
Speaker 1: And it's almost like are the feeling of when the

1007
00:48:50,306 --> 00:48:53,226
Speaker 1: draft is done. It feels like there's a seven thousand

1008
00:48:53,346 --> 00:48:55,426
Speaker 1: pound gorilla that is just off your shoulders, and you

1009
00:48:55,466 --> 00:48:57,546
Speaker 1: and I treat ourselves to a steak, a piece of fish,

1010
00:48:57,626 --> 00:48:59,786
Speaker 1: whatever it is. We enjoy each other's company.

1011
00:48:59,826 --> 00:49:03,226
Speaker 2: That Saturday night, Yeah, that's on again. It's one of

1012
00:49:03,266 --> 00:49:04,706
Speaker 2: my favorite days of the year. I can't wait for

1013
00:49:04,786 --> 00:49:06,226
Speaker 2: the draft, can't wait to be with you, buddy. We're

1014
00:49:06,226 --> 00:49:08,546
Speaker 2: going to have a blast, and I think this exercise

1015
00:49:08,666 --> 00:49:10,826
Speaker 2: proved that none of us really have any idea what's

1016
00:49:10,826 --> 00:49:13,266
Speaker 2: going to happen in this thing. Buckle up and enjoy

1017
00:49:13,346 --> 00:49:13,666
Speaker 2: the ride.

1018
00:49:13,746 --> 00:49:15,346
Speaker 1: I'm just hoping for a lot of trade. So my

1019
00:49:15,466 --> 00:49:17,386
Speaker 1: mock draft, I have an excuse when it's all wrong

1020
00:49:17,586 --> 00:49:21,626
Speaker 1: on Thursday. That's it. Daniel Jeremiah at Move the Sticks,

1021
00:49:21,826 --> 00:49:24,386
Speaker 1: my favorite draft analyst and one of my favorite people

1022
00:49:24,666 --> 00:49:26,666
Speaker 1: that we work with here at the NFL Network, and

1023
00:49:27,226 --> 00:49:28,586
Speaker 1: just in general, it's awesome, dude.

1024
00:49:28,586 --> 00:49:29,906
Speaker 2: And Aaron, I'm.

1025
00:49:29,746 --> 00:49:32,306
Speaker 1: Gonna let you sign us off here with the music

1026
00:49:32,466 --> 00:49:35,306
Speaker 1: because this was it mock draft. What's up? Doc? Can

1027
00:49:35,386 --> 00:49:38,146
Speaker 1: we mock everyone? Watching the NFL Draft coverage next week

1028
00:49:38,186 --> 00:49:39,266
Speaker 1: on NFL Network DJ.

1029
00:49:39,386 --> 00:49:40,626
Speaker 2: Thank you, Bro, Thank you buddy.

1030
00:49:49,026 --> 00:49:51,706
Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schrager is a production of the

1031
00:49:51,866 --> 00:49:55,866
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