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Speaker 1: Fish and Filtered episode eighty one. Still going on in

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Speaker 1: the postseason. World Series is going on right now, so

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Speaker 1: still ways away from any significant Marlins news. Here with

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Speaker 1: my friend and host Isaac. We're also here with the

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Speaker 1: founder of Fishing on first, Eli Sussman. Isaac. How we

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Speaker 1: doing first? World Series was pretty good? It kind of

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Speaker 1: got out of hand towards the end, but still playoffs

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Speaker 1: have been really fun to watch, so.

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Speaker 2: Can't complain, yeah, doing so, it's been on a tale

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Speaker 2: of two postseasons really in each league. You know, you

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Speaker 2: just have the Dodgers steamrolling anyone that gets in front

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Speaker 2: of them, and then the American League said you had

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Speaker 2: one of the better American League championship series in recent memory,

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Speaker 2: going all the way to Game seven. Obviously the Blue

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Speaker 2: Jays coming out on top. And here they are in

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Speaker 2: the Fall Classic looking at when their first title since

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Speaker 2: they went back to back in the early nineties. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's a it's a great time to be a sports fan.

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Speaker 2: Hockey back in the back in the season, the NBA

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Speaker 2: is back, NFL halfway through, so it's a great time

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Speaker 2: to be a guy if you like sports. For sure.

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Speaker 1: I didn't expect you say nun NBA in this podcast.

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Speaker 1: But here we are Eli. You know, there's still some

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Speaker 1: Marlins players going at it and then the Arizona Fall League.

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Speaker 1: So unfortunately I've not been keeping up with that. I

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Speaker 1: will only keep up with your Twitter or the fish

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Speaker 1: on First Twitter. So what has that been looking like?

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Speaker 1: Who are the standouts? I know PJ struggled and strolling.

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Speaker 1: Cobb actually hit a home run, which it looked like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, some stats to look at for those watching on YouTube.

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Speaker 3: But we keep this updated on the site fish on

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Speaker 3: First dot com. Of course, it's built the Fall League

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Speaker 3: and winter Ball going on. I could get to winch

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Speaker 3: Ball in just a moment. For the Fall League, I'd say,

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Speaker 3: all things considered, Kaba would be the bright spot thus

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Speaker 3: very mediocre year offensively for him. The pitching he's facing

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Speaker 3: best defensive shortstop in all of minor league baseball. That's

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Speaker 3: At the same time, the fact that the strikeout rate

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Speaker 1: Alrighty, not much more to go in there. I know

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Speaker 4: Of course it matters the order.

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Speaker 3: Opening day clean up hitter that the Marlins had in

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Speaker 3: We could go with Kevin and then Isaac and the me.

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Speaker 3: We each picked different players that we think we're in

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Speaker 3: that will determine the draft.

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Speaker 1: Or I'll go with Matt Murvis.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Isaac, you can guess anybody aside from Nervis.

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Speaker 3: They started Jonah Bride against Paul Skeans and the cleanup Okay.

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Speaker 3: My guess is going to be Griffin Conine on this.

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Speaker 3: that one in walk off fashioned by Kyle Stowers and

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Speaker 3: The cleanup hitter was at Nervous, and Isaac said, Isaac

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Speaker 3: I chose this trivia question also as kind of a

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Speaker 3: For a variety of reasons, they make those decisions in

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Speaker 2: Down right after to Paul was sent down very quickly

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Speaker 4: I will once again pull.

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Speaker 4: Around again from there.

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Speaker 2: All right, Miami.

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Speaker 1: This winner, and I think this goes without saying we

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Speaker 2: Right, There's two categories of guys in this draft process,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm gonna go Joey Whetna. I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 2: Jacob Marci. He is most of course gonna be on

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Speaker 4: Okay, So I'm up.

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Speaker 3: I'll pick twice here, the third and the fourth overall pick. Okay,

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Speaker 3: First off, I will go with Otto Lopez. I'm not

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Speaker 3: I don't think they're ready to sell high on him

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Speaker 4: And then for my next.

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Speaker 4: Is he a potential.

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Speaker 3: he still has another year of control even beyond twenty

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Speaker 1: I had him an auto into my I divided this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to stay away from Sandy and

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Speaker 1: All right, well, I'll make this one quick. I'm going

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go with Augustin Ramirez. He will most

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Speaker 1: I think they will begin to realize that this is

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Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would now have gone with him quite this high.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think that he can be sent down now,

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Speaker 2: and I think that there's a just as good of

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of sexy backup catchers that they could

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Speaker 2: And that was a hell of a Rule five drove

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: I think someone with about just as much power potential

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Speaker 2: He is one of the only position players to be

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Speaker 1: Wow, you see that one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, unlikely. Just you don't know what'snna happen in the

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Speaker 1: He versatility carries him quite a bit. He's just stunt,

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Speaker 4: He's got better during the second half of the season.

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Speaker 3: But well, I think this is outstanding value right here.

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Speaker 3: seasons in Marlin's history. This past year, Yeah, just got

437
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 3: better and better and better for a guy that was

438
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Speaker 3: mainly available to the Marlins because of durability concerns. He

439
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 3: was healthy throughout last season and he was just spectacular.

440
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 3: One of the third highest strikeout total ever for Marlins reliever.

441
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 3: He pitched a lot of high leverage situations. I think

442
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 3: a lot of Marlin times would have liked him to

443
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,120
Speaker 3: pitch more in high leverage situations, and he'll be able

444
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,439
Speaker 3: to do that this upcoming year. This is really just

445
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 3: a question of health. One of the factors here is

446
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,919
Speaker 3: that he's out of minor league options, and to me,

447
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 3: that is a pretty big factor when it comes to

448
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 3: guys that are not even in roster battles. But if

449
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 3: any sort of decision has been.

450
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Speaker 4: Made on them.

451
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,199
Speaker 3: The fact that you can't get sent him down to

452
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,239
Speaker 3: the minor leagues makes it pretty obvious his value is.

453
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Speaker 3: This is another case like with Otto, where's a former

454
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 3: waiver claim, so his value is way up from where

455
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Speaker 3: it was when the Marlins required him. It can be

456
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,640
Speaker 3: tempting for this front office to try to cash in

457
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 3: when they can get something pretty substantial in return. At

458
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 3: the same time, I keep going back to the fact

459
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Speaker 3: that if they're trying to win games for a guy

460
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Speaker 3: that is still pre arbitration eligible, they have every reason

461
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Speaker 3: in the world to stick with him for the start

462
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 3: of twenty twenty six and then potentially reevaluate things from there.

463
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 3: I'm never too loyal to any one reliever. He was

464
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 3: just outstanding, really brilliant twenty twenty five season for Ronnie

465
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Speaker 3: and then for my next pick, this will be starting

466
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Speaker 3: the fourth round, I will go. I'll go with Xavier Edwards,

467
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 3: and I am contemplating in my own right after the

468
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Speaker 3: World Series, I will publish my annual off season blueprint

469
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Speaker 3: exercise and with x The main difference between him and

470
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 3: Auto is the defensive versatility. He's a guy that played

471
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 3: extremely well defensively at second base. This past year, but

472
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 3: that's kind of his only position, and as this team

473
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 3: kind of explores all these various options for how to

474
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 3: get better moving forward, he's just a tricky piece to

475
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 3: build the rounds, all things considered, given the although he

476
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 3: does several things very very well, there's also just limited

477
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 3: flexibility with your roster if he's only going to play

478
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 3: that position, and when they have several guys also in

479
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 3: their organization that can capably handle second base, even if

480
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 3: it's not quite the same level. Like I can definitely

481
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 3: see a scenario where he gets traded at some point

482
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Speaker 3: this offseason, but they when he was available to them

483
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 3: this year, he was in the lineup almost every single day,

484
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Speaker 3: and very often at the very top of the lineup.

485
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Speaker 3: So I am going to assume in the fourth round,

486
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Speaker 3: I think it's I think that's fair value for him,

487
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Speaker 3: even understanding the risk of a potential trade.

488
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he fell into my actually could get traded tell

489
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 1: you category, because you know he I mean, he's there,

490
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: he's gonna be and I'm you know, leading off. But

491
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 1: you know, you can also see the case where kind

492
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 1: of like what Craig was telling us, do the Marlins

493
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 1: really see him in the plans of the future. Obviously,

494
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 1: this is you know, he said this during a different

495
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: time when X was kind of struggling at shortstop, but

496
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: I think it still applies. So and they have that,

497
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: you know beyond X. And do you really need a

498
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: type of player like him, I don't know. I think

499
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 1: you would always like one, but you don't really necessarily

500
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: need him, And we saw that with a guy like

501
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Speaker 1: Arias who his value kind of you know, we'll see

502
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 1: what happens in free agency, but clearly was not traded

503
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 1: for a lot when you know, I guess, I don't know.

504
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: It's it's a weird case because I think X falls

505
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 1: into that arise category where high batting average, you know,

506
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 1: on base guy walks a lot, just doesn't have the

507
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: power and you know, it's actually pretty good defensively, So

508
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: I guess, who knows. I I'll be curious what if

509
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: he's ever traded at AX this offseason, what the value

510
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: looks like, because it is it would be intriguing.

511
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 2: With that said, I'm gonna this one is just a

512
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 2: little bit of trade risk, but solely an injury factor

513
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 2: with him like it was last year. Ryan Weathers is

514
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 2: going to be in the rotation. They don't have a

515
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 2: lot of lefties. Assuming that everyone has kept it's gonna

516
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 2: be Sandy Eddie Urie Weathers, and I have another guy

517
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 2: who I'm hoping falls to me in the bullpen anyway.

518
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 2: But Ryan Weathers, he has yet to prove that he

519
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 2: can remain healthy throughout the full season. But what he is,

520
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,239
Speaker 2: he has for the most part been on in his

521
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 2: Marlin's career. Besides since twenty twenty four, I should say so. Yeah,

522
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 2: like I said, he's healthy, He's in the rotation, alright, all.

523
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: Right, I'll go with Jansen junk first one one minor

524
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: league options. He's gonna be in there somehow, and I

525
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: guess at this point I'm gonna be the one to

526
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: do it. I'll take Edwar Cabrera with my next one.

527
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 1: It's fifth round at this point, he got to do it,

528
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: so I think not traded. Clearly he's gonna be into

529
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: you know, at the top of that rotation, are close

530
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: to it, you know it'll be Sandy Yuri Cabrera or

531
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 1: something along those lines. And he had an awesome year. Obviously,

532
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 1: injury risk is there. He obviously had a little bit

533
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: of an injury scare at the end of the season,

534
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: which I think we thought would have been really bad,

535
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 1: but thankfully was nothing. And he looked pretty good at

536
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: those flam a couple starts, one shakey one, and then

537
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: he had the one against the match where he looked really,

538
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: really good. So I think at this point he got

539
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: to do it. So I'll go junking Cabrera here.

540
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Speaker 3: Yeah, junk would have been next up for me. As

541
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 3: you noted the lack of He's kind of the very

542
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 3: prototypical number five starter entering the year, keeping the seat

543
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 3: warm until any of the top rated prospects already and

544
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 3: then he neither moves to bullten or we'll see how

545
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 3: he performs.

546
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 4: But yeah, he's that good pick.

547
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: Still need the first baseman, guys.

548
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 4: But we don't have to try to get.

549
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: We don't have to. I'm just joking. I was saying, Wagon,

550
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: it's on the board, guys.

551
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 3: I feel pretty I'm likely going to pick a first

552
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 3: basement in this draft.

553
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 4: I'll tell you that.

554
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 2: Okay, well, this one worries me for a few reasons.

555
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 2: One injury to the fact that he could have an

556
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 2: address in a chrosure spring training and not make the team.

557
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 2: But I think they like him. I think they liked

558
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 2: what they saw. Griffin Conine is gonna make his second

559
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 2: opening day roster. I had heard from a couple of

560
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 2: people that he is in their plans going forward. While

561
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: he was on the aisle recovering from a dislocated shoulder,

562
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 2: he was able to miraculously make it all the way

563
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 2: back from that injury. You know, he homeward, didn't get

564
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 2: a ton of at bats, but still he is able

565
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 2: to go in the off season fully healthy, and I

566
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: expect him to be on this roster come March. What

567
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 2: is it, What's open the twenty eighth this year? March

568
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 2: twenty nine, Well, whatever day opening day is this year,

569
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 2: March twenty nine, will be there against the right handed

570
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 2: picture in the lineup.

571
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Speaker 4: March twenty sixth, Opening Day. It's going to be their

572
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 4: earliest opening.

573
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 3: Day in Marln's history. Just to clarify that for people, that.

574
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Speaker 1: They have opening Day and then they have an off

575
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 1: day and then it's the Saturday A game.

576
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, only five months away. Okay, oh, okay, I know, okay,

577
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 3: I know.

578
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 4: I'm gonna pick with the first one for sure.

579
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 3: This is Tyler Phillips Territory, another reliever who's out of options,

580
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 3: who had an excellent year who when, especially when they

581
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 3: acquired him, I was thinking of him as potential rotation depth,

582
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 3: and that is something that could be on the table

583
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 3: entering this season. Yeah, I don't think they're gonna I

584
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 3: don't see a scenario where he's not with the organization,

585
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 3: and it's just a matter of health for somebody that

586
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 3: in his career doesn't have a ton of injury concerns

587
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 3: to worry about. He pitched extremely well the second half

588
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 3: of the year. I don't know what role it's going

589
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 3: to be in. I think he was a little bit.

590
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 3: He did well, but I think he'd be asking a

591
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 3: lot for him to be such a frequent option at

592
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 3: the end of games the way.

593
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 4: That he was in twenty twenty five. It worked out well.

594
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 3: I think he's going to be on the team for sure.

595
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 3: And the key here is that he's out of minor

596
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 3: the options and has significant value.

597
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they're going to stick with him.

598
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 3: He's an interesting change of pace from some of the

599
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 3: other guys that I think will be in the bullpen

600
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 3: because he's not a strikeout guy.

601
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 4: He is someone that it just a contact, gets.

602
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 3: A ton of grounders, just really complimentary piece, and this

603
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 3: one maybe come across as pretty bold. I'm going to

604
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 3: go with another reliever here in the six rounds again

605
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 3: that is not on the forty man roster.

606
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, it will be.

607
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 3: I'm going with Josh White. I know he kind of

608
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 3: fits that same mold where he had an amazing, amazing

609
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 3: season in double A and tripla A sub to eer

610
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 3: struck get out like forty percent of hitters over the

611
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 3: course of an entire season he has. He induces the

612
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 3: goofiest looking swings out of anybody in this organization, in

613
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 3: any role, at any level. He has this really over

614
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 3: the top delivery that at least in the upper Miners

615
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 3: guys were totally helpless against. He is in some respects

616
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 3: there's a bit of Trey Savage in him for people

617
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 3: that are watching Trey Savage pitch in the World Series,

618
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 3: where that delivery coming over the top, the way that

619
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 3: pitches move from that release point is something that keeps

620
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,479
Speaker 3: that really confuses hitters that train for other release points.

621
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Speaker 3: And I think he's gonna be really effective right away

622
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 3: with the other prospects there. The Marlins are going to

623
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 3: cove it the extra service time if they could get it.

624
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 3: I don't think that really applies to relievers. Like if

625
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 3: you're gonna have a reliever that is in the big

626
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 3: leagues for the next six plus years, that is really unusual.

627
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 3: And I think you're willing to live with him hitting

628
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 3: free agency earlier if they actually have that kind of

629
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 3: career first place. So with Josh White, I think he's

630
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 3: gonna be one of their top eight relievers coming out

631
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 3: of camp. He's proven all he could possibly prove in

632
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 3: the upper miners, so I think he's gonna be there.

633
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 4: On opening day and he's he's gonna be fun to watch.

634
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: There's another Josh still on the board, that's right.

635
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Just to be clear, I do believe Fouche

636
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: and Bender are trade candidates without a doubt.

637
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 4: I agree.

638
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 2: I don't know what's gonna happen with Kate Gibson. Not

639
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: to give you guys all the remaining people some notable

640
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 2: names on their position players, I don't like.

641
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 3: You.

642
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 2: You know, if we look at gus guys see the

643
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 2: forty minute roster screenshot. I like the idea of Bert

644
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: Roberto Hernandez in this spot, assuming that we are correct

645
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 2: in Marci Stowars and Co. Nine roaming the outfield that

646
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 2: lone Deevo Park. They're gonna need some right handed hitting,

647
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 2: and Herbert durn and Is fits in well. He had

648
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 2: a great showing his rookie season with Miami anyway, and

649
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: I easily see him being either a fourth outfield option

650
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 2: or a platoon option with griff.

651
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good one with me.

652
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 3: I'm still I'm still I think he's like a candidate

653
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 3: that could have just an awful spring training and that

654
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 3: makes you'll realize that, man, his lack of the contact

655
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 3: is going to be something that it will be in

656
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 3: the mix no matter what.

657
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 4: We'll see him the big leagues.

658
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 3: But he's a guy where I think I can't bank

659
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 3: on him repeating what he did last year, but I.

660
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 2: Think at least one of him or Conan will be there,

661
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 2: you know, sort of hedging my bet a bit.

662
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, alright, So I guess I'm taking the free agent

663
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: pick right after too. So he took my guy I

664
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: was gonna take. I was probably gonna take Bert. I

665
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: agree with your assessment of Bender and Fouchet. I don't

666
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: know about the rest of the relievers, to be honest

667
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: with you, like Boker, probably not uh hm. I guess

668
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: I'll do it. I'll go with connoran Norby. I it's

669
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: a it's a fifty to fifty shot, but clearly, I mean,

670
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: this is the guy they traded for. This is the

671
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: main piece of the trade at the time, not anymore.

672
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: But if he wants a job, he's gonna be either

673
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: starting third basement, and I mean I would assume it's

674
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: gonna be somewhere there. So we'll go with him. As

675
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: much as I would have loved to go with Polly,

676
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: who really grew on me towards the end of the year,

677
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed watching it was actually pretty good too.

678
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: But clearly they moved the better defensive player to first

679
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: base and they left the no offense the bad third

680
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: basement at third base defensively, so that says everything you

681
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: need to know. And then free agent, oh boy, well.

682
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 4: I will go there.

683
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 3: Doesn't have to be a free agent, but yeah, to

684
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 3: somebody that's not currently in the Marlins organization.

685
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: I will go with the free agent. Yeah, uh, I

686
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: mean I'll do it. I'll go Williams. I don't think

687
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: unlikely that it happens, but clearly they made it seems

688
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: like this is the guy they're gonna target. They like him.

689
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: He had a really nice year with the He had

690
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: a nice underlying year with the Yankees after a really

691
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: bad start. Let's let's be clear about that. He allowed

692
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: a lot of home runs. Clearly the ballpark did not

693
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: help him whatsoever. But he was good in the playoffs too.

694
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: I think he shut out He had threw four shutout

695
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: innings in the playoffs and all that. So this is

696
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 1: a this is your guy, like, this is the best guy,

697
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: like in terms of like like achievable, like guys that

698
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: you could acquire because they're not gonna get Edwin Diaz

699
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: or Ranger Swirez or I'm not really Robert Suarez or

700
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: whatever Zaan is. So this is like your tier two

701
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: best option available out there. So he'll go I'll go

702
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: with Devin Williams. We all got this category wrong regardless

703
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: last year. Honestly we will probably I'll get it wrong

704
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: again this year if i'd guess.

705
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 3: So, who'd you pick last year?

706
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: If you remember, I think I took Eddie Rosario last

707
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: year or a med Rosario.

708
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, No, Kevin chose Yes, he did choose a

709
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 2: Meta Rosario.

710
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: And that didn't happen. He didn't. He did go to

711
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: the analyst, but not the Marlins.

712
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 4: Yeah. I picked Walker Buehler last year, which.

713
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: That pick looks pretty good this year if you want it.

714
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little if they wanted, but yeah, definitely.

715
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 4: Yeah.

716
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 3: So with Devin Williams, Yeah, when you started talking about

717
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 3: it being a nice year, if it was a nice

718
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 3: year by his standards, then he would have been out

719
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 3: of their price rinks. This is a guy that was

720
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 3: as good as any reliever in baseball from twenty twenty

721
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 3: to twenty twenty four, and then last year had some

722
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 3: inconsistencies with the Yankees. I still think he's going to

723
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 3: be too expensive for the team, but he's isn't a

724
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 3: weird spot because he has that bloated e RA coming

725
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 3: up this past year and didn't spend most of the

726
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 3: year was spent not in a closing role. So I yeah,

727
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 3: that's going to be just really fascinating case where there's

728
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 3: going to be Marlins should.

729
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 4: Be interested in him.

730
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 3: I think that'd be an amazing signing if they get him,

731
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 3: but I'm still skeptical that they spend what it will take.

732
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 2: Something I don't want to get overlooked is where Connor

733
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 2: Norby was taken here. Connorover was selected eighteenth overall in

734
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 2: our opening day roster locked draft, eighteenth when just a

735
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: year ago, a little bit less than a year ago,

736
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 2: he was selected second overall by me after Hayesus Sanchez.

737
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 2: Connor oovery was my second overall selection. So just shows

738
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 2: you how much can change in the game of base Well,

739
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 2: I don't think this happens in any other sport where

740
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: just the stock of an individual player or trade package

741
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: can just change so dramatically over one year, over a

742
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: year where he didn't even play that much because he

743
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 2: was hurt, and yet still we don't even know if

744
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 2: he's gonna be on the obated roster, even though I

745
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 2: do think that was a great value for you, Kevin,

746
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: I think he's a lot. I think there's room for

747
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 2: both him and Paully on the roster obviously not to start.

748
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 2: In regards to my free agent selection, they need a

749
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: left handed reliever. Give me Steven Mattz. He knows the

750
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 2: ends pretty well. He had a great year, a fantastic year.

751
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 2: So he's being traded over the red side, and I

752
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 2: think he can be within their price range. He's got

753
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 2: to be what he is thirty four years old, will

754
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 2: be a thirty four on opening day, and I think

755
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 2: he's very realistic. He's someone that could really have all

756
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 2: the Marlins and that would be a hell of another

757
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 2: trade chip in July. Ship thinks not go well for Miami.

758
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 2: I thought I were going to go with Kiddridge again.

759
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 2: I was gonna go with Kiddridge. I was gonna go

760
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 2: with Paul Goldschmidt Kiddridge.

761
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 1: Kiddridge doesn't have I think a club option anyways.

762
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and I haven't heard real affirming rumors that

763
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 2: the Marlins are going to sign a first baseman.

764
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: They seem I don't think so. But the wag attack, Yeah,

765
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: I don't.

766
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 2: Maybe Waggy Wags and Troy, But for now, I know

767
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: they could do some relievers. They're in the market for relievers.

768
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 2: Steven Mattz would help him a lot.

769
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: I like that pick.

770
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, for the final pick of our opening day roster lucks,

771
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 3: I also have to go outside of the organization. I'll

772
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 3: go with the first baseman here, and I don't think

773
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 3: it's going to be a free agent first baseman. I

774
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 3: feel like there's not there. There's a lot of options

775
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 3: out there, but they're not gonna spend for Pee Alonzo.

776
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 4: They're not gonna spend for.

777
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 3: Josh Naylor, and I think the guys that they can

778
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 3: realistically afford don't none of them really check all the

779
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 3: boxes that I want. I think this is a team

780
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 3: that it's not all about being super cheap. Some of

781
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 3: it is about just recognizing how valuable it is to

782
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 3: have players with multiple years of club control, and you

783
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 3: could get that in free agency, but I think there

784
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 3: they'd rather just trade for a guy they think it's

785
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 3: in his prime or maybe not even entered his prime yet.

786
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 3: I have them trading This is a preview of I'm

787
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 3: gonna put out in my off season blueprint. I've been

788
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 3: trading for Alc Burlesson of the Saint Louis Cardinals. I

789
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 3: think that's gonna be your primary first baseman next year,

790
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 3: who could also play a lot of outfield. I think

791
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 3: Alc Burlesson, if they acquire him, is a guy that

792
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 3: is gonna be kind of the center of their offense.

793
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 3: He put up like an eight hundred ish ops this

794
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 3: past year. He's a guy that struggled to translate to

795
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: the big leagues immediately, but I watched quite a bit

796
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 3: of him in twenty twenty four and then even this year,

797
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 3: and I think there's another level there where he's a

798
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 3: guy that has above average power and this past year

799
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 3: had way above average contact rates that people don't realize.

800
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 3: He's just a really well rounded hitter.

801
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 4: That is pull up his exact age.

802
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 3: It's like twenty six or twenty seven, still with three

803
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 3: years of club control still to go if they have

804
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 3: that right, yeah, and just entering arbitration for the first

805
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 3: time this year. I think that's the guy that makes

806
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 3: a lot of sense. It's a Saint Louis Cardinals scene

807
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 3: that's gonna be open for business.

808
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 4: This past year.

809
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,479
Speaker 3: They were kind of trying to sell off pieces last

810
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 3: offseason and didn't really do a whole lot. And even

811
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 3: though they're not a bad team, they're under now new

812
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 3: front office leadership. They're kind of resetting, and I think

813
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 3: everybody's gonna be available. So I think this is just

814
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 3: one of several guys on the Cardinals right now that

815
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 3: they'd be willing to flip for not necessarily prospects, but

816
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 3: maybe fits at other positions.

817
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 4: I think it makes if it's gonna be.

818
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 3: Just Burlison, there's a lot of a pull up the

819
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 3: forty man roster. Again, there's a lot of potential rotation

820
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 3: candidates on here that the Marlins don't necessarily know what

821
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 3: they're going to do with. So without getting too deep

822
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 3: on particular names, I think there's definitely trade scenarios out

823
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 3: there where the Marlins flip a pre arbitration hit picture

824
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 3: starting Pitcher is kind of the centerpiece for an Alec

825
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 3: Burleson package and they make Burlson one of the key

826
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 3: pieces of their team for these next few years.

827
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 2: I like it that would be he took a huge

828
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,919
Speaker 2: step forward to the power department as well Burlessen this year,

829
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 2: and like you said, new administration over there in Saint Louis,

830
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 2: pick up the phone, call up Peter, and I think

831
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 2: Marlins can definitely make a trade happen in that case.

832
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 1: That would people don't know what the full trade is,

833
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: is the thing, because I obviously Eli showed us the trade,

834
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: so people will.

835
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 3: Be I think I've made some changes since now' At

836
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 3: this particular moment, I think would be a six player trade,

837
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 3: and I still reserve the I have the power, of

838
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 3: course to change that between now and when I published

839
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 3: the article, but yeah, I'm working on that involves Burliston

840
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 3: and other pieces coming from the Cardinals.

841
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 4: I think that is.

842
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 3: Trade for the Marlins.

843
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: That would be pretty cool if you if you can here,

844
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: you know, I I think like, I'm sure there are

845
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: people in the organization that read all these proposed trades

846
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: by media by us. For sure.

847
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 2: Do you think they read that and then they're like, Okay,

848
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 2: we're not gonna do that anymore. Like they see it,

849
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 2: they see it.

850
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 1: I feel like that's like we don't want to forget.

851
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: I mean, don't forget. Skip was pretty clear that he

852
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: reads the stuff on Twitter, but he doesn't He has

853
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: never in his life once taken a single suggestion from I.

854
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,439
Speaker 2: Don't know, man, I just like, see like Peters or John,

855
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: you know, whoever they're going up to, Hey, we're not

856
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 2: gonna do this anymore. On first hat, I don't know

857
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: something I always wonder.

858
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 3: So let us just quickly review some of the guys

859
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 3: that we did not select in here. We didn't select Grandpaulie,

860
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 3: and Kevin noted that he was He was again that

861
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 3: I think was one of the first men out of

862
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 3: this conversation, a guy that you could certainly make the case,

863
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 3: but still a question of where it fits in this roster,

864
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 3: and some limitations to his offensive game that will have

865
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 3: to be proven during the course of spring.

866
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 4: On the pitching side, we ended up picking.

867
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: A Max Meyer wasn't taken.

868
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, Max Meyer is kind of.

869
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 3: The bigger one where he was pitching well early this

870
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 3: past year, then he's tried to pitch through that hip

871
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 3: injury and the numbers went down. He went on the

872
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 3: I l underwun surgery. He's gonna be fully available. We

873
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 3: didn't pick Braxton Garrett here will be interested to see

874
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 3: what they do with him. Both him and kind of

875
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 3: Andrew Nardi are kind of in that same bucket where

876
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 3: they've been good big leaguers and then not too distant

877
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 3: past but missed his entire past year due to injuries

878
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 3: that they had. And on the prospect side, we didn't

879
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 3: pick Joe Mack. We didn't pick Robbie Snelling, at least

880
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 3: in my opinion, both of those guys, it's I expect

881
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 3: that they're gonna be held down for service time considerations.

882
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 3: Between the two, I feel like Snelling actually has the

883
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 3: better chance of cracking at a camp just because he's

884
00:42:55,160 --> 00:43:00,439
Speaker 3: already fully stretched out as a starting pitcher. And then Yeah,

885
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 3: with Mac, I think that's a guy where they hold

886
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 3: him in such high regard for their team long term

887
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 3: that they want to get as many years of control

888
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 3: as possible, and it gives them an opportunity to try

889
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 3: the gusts catching experiment for at least a.

890
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 4: Little bit longer at the beginning of the year.

891
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 3: Outside from that, oh yeah, we picked most of the

892
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 3: guys that by the end of the year had big

893
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 3: roles with the team. So on the reliever side, we

894
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,479
Speaker 3: omitted some of the guys that are the more likely

895
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 3: trade candidates. And Bender and faux Chat and no Josh Simpson.

896
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 3: No Josh Simpson despite his strong finish this season the

897
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 3: last couple of weeks of the year, Yeah, I think.

898
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 2: He's gonna be on the open roster. I just couldn't

899
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: do it.

900
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: I couldn't do it.

901
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 2: But I.

902
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 3: A bigger snub would be Kad Gibson, where Kate had

903
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 3: a very good year, kind of out of nowhere and

904
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 3: we'll see where some of the underlying numbers on him

905
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 3: are less encouraging than the bottom line run prevention. But

906
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 3: he stepped up when they really had no other trust

907
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 3: to lefties what to speak of last year.

908
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, he kind of fell into the that category of like, yeah,

909
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: most likely, but if they do sign a lefty, you'll

910
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: have to see what they end up doing. Right, So

911
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: he I think he's the guy he's gonna because he

912
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: did show some inconsistencies at times. So he had a

913
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: good year, I mean compared to what we expected a

914
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: guy who wasn't even at spring training at the big

915
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: leagues at least, So you know, a lot of credit

916
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: to him. But I think he's gonna have to come

917
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: in here and earn that bullpen spot because you would

918
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: hope that they're gonna have multiple lefties, not just one,

919
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: because they burnt Anthony Veneziana to the ground and they

920
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: did the same with Gibson, Let's not get that wrong.

921
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: So yes, you would hope multiple lefties finished the year

922
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 1: on the Mongins start the year in the Martins bulpen

923
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: with I think he'll be one that ends up making it,

924
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 1: But I don't think it sounds one hundred percent. As

925
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 1: you know, some of the folks here on our list.

926
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 2: No Joey Weimer, No, Eric Wagerman, Garrett, No Andrew NRDI,

927
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 2: who just we have not heard much regarding his rehabit.

928
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: No gust No no, Dan Meyers no to no go.

929
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 2: As well, so it's either but shocker.

930
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: I actually made a list of guys who I think

931
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 1: will be dfaed, but I don't think we should read

932
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: that one on here.

933
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: We'll do that for our next episode.

934
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, by the next episode, we should finally have

935
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 3: some roster moves to react to. After the World Series,

936
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 3: they have to do something in terms of bringing guys

937
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 3: back from the sixty day il. They have to make

938
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 3: at least six roster moves in the aftermath of the

939
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 3: World Series, and we'll have the coverage of those. I

940
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 3: try to predict those each year, and I'm never completely right,

941
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 3: so there's usually some surprises there of somebody that performed decently,

942
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 3: but the team just doesn't believe in moving forward. So

943
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 3: that activity will be coming, hopefully within the next week

944
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 3: or so.

945
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,479
Speaker 1: Alrighty, so I think we'll wrap it up there. There's

946
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: not much more to go into. We'll be back in

947
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 1: two weeks. By that point, as Eli noted, we should

948
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: have quite a bit of roster moves to talk about

949
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: and reviewing. I guess the Winter meeting is a little

950
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: bit because we're already would this would be in November already,

951
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: Isaac and I will be there hopefully, so yeah, we'll

952
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: wrap it up here from Eli. Isaac myself will see

953
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: you guys all in two weeks, and there's always peace

954
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: out and go fish right,