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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Wednesday here

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Speaker 1: tomorrow is Thanksgiving, So happy pre Thanksgiving to everyone out there.

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Speaker 1: We've got three Thursday games in a Black Friday game

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Speaker 3: Should indicate how they claim that there's like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: So this is Joe at Joe Pompeliano. He says Amazon

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Speaker 1: So you're going to get all best stuff. And so

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Speaker 6: Well, maybe you can just do your Christmas shopping right

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Speaker 3: Click, you know, because what better way for me to

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Speaker 1: But I think Amazon is going to show the way

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Speaker 3: knowing that Burrow was hurt. Well, like, did you think

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Speaker 8: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's he knows how to stir the hornets nest.

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Speaker 1: No, before gambling was legal, you had no recourse. You're

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Speaker 1: No, that's what I always thought, all right, eight five

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Speaker 1: not surprised anyone surprised that he spoke today. No, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I I don't think he should start. I think this

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Speaker 3: Like, I just don't see what benefit of that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we've I mean, but they've already put him under

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Speaker 3: Good luck. Yeah, that splits it. Good for anybody. I

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Speaker 3: Who's with you?

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Speaker 1: Who are our players?

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Speaker 6: And that's what I was getting out at the second

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Speaker 6: Like I just don't know how Mac Jones can fix

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Speaker 3: How does that get right? In what four days off? Why?

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Speaker 6: I know I'm with you, and that's and that's and

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Speaker 1: I want to see.

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Speaker 3: That's how I felt last year.

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Speaker 3: Like that's operating under the assumption that hasn't been.

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Speaker 3: So I just I would have taken him out two

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Speaker 5: I think this is the best quarterback on the team

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Speaker 1: Trent Browns back.

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Speaker 3: But blitz pressure.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna They're gonna bring pressure from everywhere. And you're

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Speaker 5: he's on your football team, and he's under contract for

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Speaker 5: The best path forward, after he clearly displayed that he

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Speaker 1: When did the Giants' defense become the eighty five bear.

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Speaker 3: That's not the point, no, it is, I mean.

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Speaker 5: But the point is is that he's already throwing off

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Speaker 1: All this, as Bill O'Brian has said, he's played well

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I just I would much rather try

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Speaker 3: I don't get that it's a terrible spot for him,

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Speaker 3: Like it's a terrible matchup. Yeah, I don't know about

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Speaker 1: Maybe he didn't feel enough pressure.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I'm not talking about pressure for your job. I'm

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Speaker 3: The Giants are not the best defense in football, but

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Speaker 5: You're gonna have Dexter Lawrence coming up the middle against

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Speaker 5: don't understand how that is beneficial for Mac, Like Mac

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Speaker 1: Well, that's that's assuming that you believe he is an

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Speaker 3: I just see if last year was just a complete

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Speaker 3: I don't know it's fair, but I just want to

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Speaker 3: see if the offense looks different.

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Speaker 1: But if that's if that's the kids, and we don't know,

443
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Speaker 1: he'd better be getting the majority of the snaps in practice.

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Speaker 1: If that's what they're gonna do with Zappy this week,

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Speaker 1: it's only fair day.

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Speaker 3: Ever, Starting is getting the majority of well, I hope So.

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Speaker 3: I don't know who Starting.

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Speaker 6: I hope So and Mac talked about it a little

449
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Speaker 6: bit this morning, and it was like, you know, it

450
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Speaker 6: was like one of those things do you expect to start?

451
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Speaker 6: And I know Paul mentioned that people were running with

452
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Speaker 6: his response a little bit, which I think was just

453
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Speaker 6: what did he say?

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Speaker 3: Just a classic Mac? I hope?

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Speaker 4: So I hope So that's the plan, Like, you know,

456
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Speaker 4: that's for him, that's his plan, that's his plan.

457
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Speaker 3: How I read it.

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Speaker 6: But the guys did a good job asking him questions

459
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Speaker 6: just about rotating snaps and stuff, and you know, so

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Speaker 6: he did like kind of acknowledge that that's what's been

461
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Speaker 6: going on. So I just I don't know, is somebody

462
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Speaker 6: gonna emerge today to Friday?

463
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Speaker 3: And you know, is that it's gonna be And if

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Speaker 3: you guys don't agree, feel feel free. We could just

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Speaker 3: drop it. I mean, I do not think that practice

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Speaker 3: has a lot to do with this, Like I don't

467
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Speaker 3: think that Bailey's Appy is gonna go out there and

468
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Speaker 3: string two good practices together when they're gonna say, you

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Speaker 3: know what, Mac.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not this week, but I think practice overall has

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Speaker 1: always a lot to do with it. And I think

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Speaker 1: if Bailey's Happy had shown this season that he's coming on,

473
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Speaker 1: he would have had more opportunities than he already has.

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Speaker 3: You could say that about training camp. I'm about talking

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Speaker 3: about week two practice. It's all different than backup quarterbacks

476
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Speaker 3: don't get the reps mostly it's mostly just mop up.

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Speaker 3: But you but you're still said he didn't even have

478
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Speaker 3: many I mean, how many opportunities did he have to

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Speaker 3: run the two minute drill? Like, and then he puts

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Speaker 3: him out there for the two minute drill. It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's done. He's done well with some of his opportunities,

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Speaker 3: like these coaches know.

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Speaker 6: But but you're saying that with your belief that there

484
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Speaker 6: isn't really a lot of reps being divvied up evenly.

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Speaker 3: Because if you're really trying to get a quarterback ready

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Speaker 3: to play in the game, he needs to get the

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Speaker 3: reps right.

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Speaker 6: And that's why it's such a disservice if this isn't

489
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Speaker 6: really what and these questions again, we're saying, are you

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Speaker 6: gonna be able to get ready if you don't have

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Speaker 6: the bulk of the reps? And how do you prepare

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Speaker 6: the quarterback when you're in the middle of Oh, he

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Speaker 6: got his six reps, Now your turn.

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Speaker 3: Like I'm one hundred years old and I only remember

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Speaker 3: things from like twenty five years ago, but I remember

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Speaker 3: Bill telling me how it's not feasible to get two

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks ready for a game. Back in two thousand and one,

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Speaker 3: oh Brian said that I'll never find that.

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Speaker 1: So somebody else did. It was on Twitter. Somebody else

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Speaker 1: found that.

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Speaker 3: You know who I like. I like to credit people.

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Speaker 1: It was either Mark Daniels or I don't think it

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Speaker 1: was Kayed. It might have been. It's one of the

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Speaker 1: touchdown guys, I think. But somebody pulled that out. What

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Speaker 1: was a GRD No GRD. Jardi gave kudos to the

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Speaker 1: person who un go to gr That's how I saw

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Speaker 1: it because Grdi reposted it, so.

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Speaker 5: So go to gr Obrian said that two is doable.

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Speaker 5: You can get two guys. You know you can give

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Speaker 5: two guys competitive reps.

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Speaker 3: Andy Hart?

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Speaker 1: Oh, Andy Hart? Who Why didn't I know that?

513
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Speaker 3: Andy Hart? I don't think you can really get two

514
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Speaker 3: quarterbacks ready. I think you can get one ready. And

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Speaker 3: that is what we have to do. We have to

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Speaker 3: get one guy ready to play, and that is my

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Speaker 3: responsibility to the football team.

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Speaker 1: Two thousand.

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Speaker 3: Will Belichick in two.

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Speaker 1: Thousands, and that makes sense because at that time Andy

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Speaker 1: was in the PR department for the page.

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Speaker 6: He probably transcribed that yeah, good job. And I saw

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Speaker 6: Andy in full football regalia there, and Ei had.

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Speaker 3: His helmet on.

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Speaker 6: Such how does they had helmets big enough for him

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Speaker 6: at Dartmouth High School?

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Speaker 3: They would have to order out.

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Speaker 1: Well, actually, you know you know the things you you spaghetti,

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Speaker 1: you put calendar, your calendar, that's all it is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he look good though. He was still filling out

531
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Speaker 3: his helmet pretty nice.

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Speaker 6: Got his stickers on there and everything, Dartmouth jacket, captain

533
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Speaker 6: and cool.

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Speaker 3: So we wore all those in here. Once. Fred had

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Speaker 3: his wrestling single it on. Ooh, lame would have liked that.

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Speaker 3: He didn't really.

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Speaker 1: I brought it, but I didn't wear it.

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Speaker 3: And I had I had my bu letterman jacket. He

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Speaker 3: had his dartmouths jacket. I think I chucked mine. We

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Speaker 3: were you know, we had a dork vest.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's fun memories, glory days, right, am I wrong?

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Speaker 3: Eric got his quicker jacket.

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Speaker 1: Mine was from college.

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Speaker 6: So you know that the leather, the leather sleeves.

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Speaker 3: I had the leather sleeves, that's the Dartmouth one was

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Speaker 3: a leather.

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Speaker 1: My my letter jacket for tennis. That's stolen.

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Speaker 6: Really we would do that, you know, I don't have

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Speaker 6: on it was it like a sweater with like it

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Speaker 6: was like one of those.

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Speaker 3: They just steal for the.

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Speaker 1: Something you tiere on your shoulders, just.

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Speaker 6: The big letter like D for Dennis. Why sweater golf sweater?

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Speaker 6: All right, we're having fun, good stuff.

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Speaker 3: So the Trent Brown thing you brought up real quick,

556
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Speaker 3: would you guys think of that? There are two parts

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Speaker 3: of it.

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Speaker 1: I agree.

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Speaker 3: There was the I mean death in the family, which

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Speaker 3: you know, and that's why I didn't hold the personal

561
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Speaker 3: stuff said last week, I don't know what that is.

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Speaker 6: A high end a low ankle sprain which stood out

563
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Speaker 6: to me and I'm like, so is he healthy?

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Speaker 3: Is he able to go? He said, m c l sprain.

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Speaker 3: I didn't see that one too. I saw, I saw

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Speaker 3: knee and ankle. Yeah, well we knew that before. But

567
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Speaker 3: I was talking more like how much exception you took

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Speaker 3: to the report that he was late, and then said

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Speaker 3: when I late, I'm a grown man and if I

570
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Speaker 3: have to go to the bathroom, then you were late right,

571
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Speaker 3: taking like I'm.

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Speaker 1: Either going to the bathroom or I'm getting something for

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Speaker 1: the training room.

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Speaker 3: Like great, you weren't at the Bahamas when the meeting

575
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Speaker 3: was going on. But you weren't in the meeting.

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Speaker 6: Right, I I got to be honest, Am, I miss am,

577
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Speaker 6: I just misroom. I don't remember him, like, at least

578
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Speaker 6: as far as what we talked about. I remember him

579
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Speaker 6: getting looped into that. I thought we just kind of

580
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Speaker 6: avoided personal issue. I don't remember remember looping him into

581
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Speaker 6: the he was anything or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: I try, I know, like, I'm really snarky, and I

583
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Speaker 3: get like why people make fun of me and stuff

584
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Speaker 3: don't like him. When there's a personal thing that I

585
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Speaker 3: don't know anything about, I stay away from it because

586
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Speaker 3: I think personal things can be a guy doesn't feel

587
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Speaker 3: like playing, but a personal thing can be very serious, right,

588
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Speaker 3: And when I don't know it, I try really hard

589
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Speaker 3: to stay away from it. And he said his uncle

590
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Speaker 3: passed away. His uncle, Like that's a that's a significant issue.

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Speaker 6: But who was looping him into the your late crowd?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I know, oh Albert bre Report that said

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Speaker 3: he's habitually late. And I don't think he did anything

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Speaker 3: to his credit that other than say I was poopy.

595
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Speaker 3: I'm mad about that. Yeah, Well, the BS rhetoric, right, right,

596
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Speaker 3: I think that was the phrase that he used. But

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Speaker 3: then when he explained it. You kind of explained that

598
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Speaker 3: he's been late. Now maybe it's not habitually, maybe he

599
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Speaker 3: has a problem. Maybe maybe maybe he asked, you know, teacher,

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Speaker 3: can I go?

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Speaker 1: Can I give the wooden pass?

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Speaker 3: And the teacher looks at you, it says yeah.

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Speaker 5: The hall monitors like making sure you have the pass?

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Speaker 5: You know, yeah, maybe, but I didn't.

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Speaker 3: Just curious how you guys felt about the trend. And

606
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Speaker 3: I admit I have a little bit of a bias there.

607
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Speaker 6: I mean, the biggest thing to me was just the injuries.

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Speaker 6: I mean those sounds significant. A high ankle screen, a

609
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Speaker 6: low ankles praying. Now you're telling me an mcl like,

610
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Speaker 6: how is he going to be able to play this weekend?

611
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Speaker 3: I don't think he should play the rest of the season.

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Speaker 5: Like, I just think that he's one of those guys

613
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Speaker 5: that I'm with Paul on this now because I've defended

614
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Speaker 5: him on the field. He's been good when he's been

615
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Speaker 5: healthy and he's been playing this year, he's been a

616
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Speaker 5: good player for them. I actually agreed with that part

617
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Speaker 5: of his quote. Not a high bar, but he has

618
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Speaker 5: probably been their best offensive player when he's been on

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Speaker 5: the field.

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Speaker 3: Did I say that yeah he said that about I

621
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Speaker 3: missed that he said that about himself. Yeah, yeah, put yeah,

622
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Speaker 3: But but I agree with him.

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Speaker 5: But at the same time, I it's just an example

624
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Speaker 5: of one of those guys that it's just not good culture. Like,

625
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Speaker 5: it's just not it's not what you're You can't build

626
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Speaker 5: a team particularly like that.

627
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Speaker 3: How would you felt if Tom Brady said, you know,

628
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Speaker 3: I've been the best offensive player in the team this year, right, true?

629
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Speaker 3: But no, no kidding, but like, would you feel good

630
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Speaker 3: about like listening to that? Yeah, who says that about themselves?

631
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Speaker 3: I mean show but I mean it's obvious.

632
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Speaker 1: Well, you know Breer. I heard Brear this morning when

633
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Speaker 1: he was talking about this whole thing. He's not backing down,

634
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Speaker 1: and he said that, you know, back in the day

635
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Speaker 1: when Brady was here, he got to interview Belichick at

636
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Speaker 1: length and he said, what does it mean, you know,

637
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Speaker 1: when your best player is the guy setting the tone?

638
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Speaker 1: You know along those lines in belichip pause and he said,

639
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Speaker 1: that's exactly what you're looking for, you know, So in

640
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Speaker 1: this case, you could make the argument that he is

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Speaker 1: their best offensive player and.

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Speaker 3: That's the tone.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 6: I think we probably just for the best of the

645
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Speaker 6: team is to get out of this kind of cycle

646
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Speaker 6: with him and move on with some like you know,

647
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Speaker 6: the third overall pick in the draft, left tackle, I'll come.

648
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Speaker 1: Over, Patrious Nation is about to attack.

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Speaker 3: You, but likes the other guy. I heard he likes

650
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Speaker 3: the other tackle. I think they're different. I meant to

651
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Speaker 3: see if I could get them kicked.

652
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Speaker 5: Joe Alt is like your prototypical tackle. Shani is like

653
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Speaker 5: the athletic freak.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's so so many choices.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if you're if you're looking for more of that,

656
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Speaker 5: like you know, outside zone Shanahan type stuff than I

657
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Speaker 5: think for Shani was probably better. But if you're looking

658
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Speaker 5: for that old school greater if you can get four.

659
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 3: If you get stuck dropping down to four or worse,

660
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Speaker 3: and they can get a trade down, you can't take

661
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Speaker 3: a tackle at four.

662
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Speaker 5: I think that we were talking about this on catch

663
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 5: twenty two. You know, me and Barthur are are both

664
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 5: I think in the Joel camp.

665
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 3: Assuming that's fortunate, I got nothing to the.

666
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 5: Assuming that you can't get the quarterback obviously, like the

667
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 5: quarterback is number one, forevery no not you you want

668
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 5: the tackle, don't lie. But if you can't get because

669
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 5: My My whole thing is is like, all right, Marvin

670
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 5: Harrison Junior is this great talent, but if you don't

671
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 5: have a quarterback that can throw them the ball and

672
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 5: the quarterbacks on his ass the entire game, then what

673
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 5: good is it that the receivers wide open down the field.

674
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 5: So I look at like Garrett Wilson just getting wasted

675
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 5: with the Jets because they have both of those things.

676
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 5: They have no pass protection, they have no quarterback. So

677
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 5: as great as Marvin Harrison junr Is, I I think

678
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 5: that it makes more sense to probably build up the line.

679
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does at all. On do you really think

680
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 3: Garrett Wilson would be wasted with that offensive line if

681
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers didn't get hurt? No, But but Garrett Wilson's

682
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:07,959
Speaker 3: had some good games even with Zach Wilsons.

683
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 5: Right, But if you're assuming that they're not, they can't

684
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 5: get one of the quarterbacks, and so you're you whoever

685
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 5: is starting at quarterback for you next year, whether it's

686
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 5: Mac Jones or it's Jaden Daniels, it's it's gonna be

687
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 5: a guy that has flaws.

688
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 3: Then I'm gonna I'm gonna stun you. I'm gonna defend Mac.

689
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 3: I think Mac would Garrett Wilson would have had a

690
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 3: terrific year this year on the Patriots with even even

691
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 3: with the Patriots offensive line in Mac. I think when

692
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 3: you're that good and you get open that quick fund,

693
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 3: now Zach Wilson hasn't been able to consistently.

694
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: Do it if they have one, If they had, if

695
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: the Patriots had, this is what I hear you saying, Paul,

696
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: if the Patriots had one guy who had a terrific

697
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: year at that position, they would have won a few

698
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: more games than they'd won.

699
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 3: I agree, they'd be four and six.

700
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: It's a couple of games.

701
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they'd be out of it, but they would

702
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 3: be better. I agree. Yeah, I don't think it's all Mac.

703
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 3: I've never said it's all Mac. I think I'm done

704
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 3: with that because I think that you kind of are

705
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 3: what you are. But that's that's sake. If you had

706
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 3: better players, you'd have a better record.

707
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, And that's part of the intrigue to me of Zappy.

708
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 6: Of not that I think he's the answer, but just

709
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 6: what does it look like? What does his energy bring

710
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 6: to this team?

711
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: You know, what?

712
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 3: Like, just how does it unfold?

713
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 6: Is it exactly the same as he you know, just

714
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 6: missing guys and and and it's another disaster find But

715
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 6: I just we spend so much time trying to like

716
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 6: this part's of the offensive line. This is the lack

717
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 6: of weapons, This is the offensive corn, you know, divvying

718
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 6: up all the blame.

719
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 3: Just see what it looks like with a different quarterback.

720
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: So what if what if he comes in and he's

721
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: not good?

722
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's probably what will happened. Who's zappy? Yeah he

723
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 3: won't be. What's the difference, Well, you don't know that,

724
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 3: but like, what's the difference at least you know, what

725
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 3: do you go back to mac like for competition for

726
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 3: the rest of this year?

727
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

728
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 3: Who cares?

729
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: Just but what do you do?

730
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 3: I would play greer to find out about him?

731
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, yeah, Devin mccordy thinks we're going to What.

732
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 6: Is he's talking about?

733
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: I don't know.

734
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 3: I was just talking to Paul and like the will

735
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 3: almost a zero percent chance of him starting this week, Like.

736
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 6: The will Grill Illuminati, Like they're like, we know things

737
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 6: that no one else knows.

738
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: It's like a secret practice that they're having that they're

739
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: getting him ready.

740
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 3: It was like fine at West Virginia.

741
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: I just.

742
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 5: I think Paul said it earlier. You know right now

743
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 5: that Mac Jones is a broken player. You know, he's broken,

744
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 5: and putting him out there in this game, I think

745
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 5: is just a recipe for him to be an absolute disaster,

746
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 5: which does that doesn't help you win a football game

747
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 5: if that's what you're interested in, and it doesn't help

748
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,959
Speaker 5: Mac Jones and his you know, long term future. I've

749
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 5: kind of come around on just seeing what Bailey Zappi

750
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 5: can do, but I and more, I really just feel

751
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 5: like it just is not a good spot to put

752
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 5: Mac Jones back in. Like I just he's not going

753
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 5: to play well in this anything.

754
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 3: Like we all, I mean, I know would putwards them.

755
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 3: I can't because you picked the other thing, you picked

756
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 3: the other way. I think this is a game they're

757
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 3: gonna win. I still think that. I know it's kind

758
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 3: of silly. Do you think there's anything to the fact

759
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 3: that maybe he's looking at us like we're gonna beat

760
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 3: the Giants?

761
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: I mean gets the credit.

762
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 3: Yes, we're gonna win this game. I know that's like that.

763
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: I know it was.

764
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 5: I know it was only one game, but they turned

765
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 5: Sam Howe over six times last week and if you

766
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 5: put the guy that literally is broken in a game

767
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 5: against a defense that just for six turnovers, Like, I

768
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 5: don't understand how that's gonna be good.

769
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: I know, but Paul's right. If somehow they win and

770
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: Zappi is the quarterback, that's it for Mac for the season, Like,

771
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: it makes.

772
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 3: It really hard to go back on. Yeah, I agree

773
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 3: with that, but you know, the Garrett Wilson thing, I

774
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 3: was a little surprised that Evan didn't push back on.

775
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 3: I was kind of anticipating I will say. What I

776
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 3: thought you were going to say is that, you know,

777
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 3: the Patriots problems sort of developing wide receivers might make

778
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 3: that different is a strong word, but.

779
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 5: This so I don't have If we were talking about

780
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 5: like the next tier of receivers like Roma Dunes from

781
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 5: from Washington or something like that, I'd be with. I

782
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 5: think Marvin Harrison junr Is like you literally can't break him,

783
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,959
Speaker 5: Like he's oh no, I was just talking a yeah yeah,

784
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 5: Like I like, so when it comes to evaluating, like

785
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 5: if they should take Marvin Harrison Junior, he's so good

786
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 5: that I don't like, I don't care who you give

787
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 5: him to. He's gonna be fine, But I just if

788
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 5: you can't, if the quarterback can't throw the ball to

789
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,919
Speaker 5: him and the offensive line can't protect the quarterback, you're like, again,

790
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,439
Speaker 5: you're just gonna have this receiver down the field standing there,

791
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 5: and then he's gonna get frustrated and he's gonna TCHU.

792
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 1: Right right. Has there ever been a case of a team,

793
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: you know, drafting a guy high and then immediately trading

794
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: him for an existing player that they wanted, Like, for example,

795
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: let's say the Patriots drafted Marvin Harrison.

796
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 3: Has a first round pick ever been traded without playing

797
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 3: a game for that team?

798
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 1: Yeah?

799
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 3: Like beyond like a Eli Manning kind of dispute. Yeah,

800
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 3: not that I'm aware of, But that doesn't mean.

801
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: Like, like, what if the Patriots, you know, drafted Marvin

802
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: Harrison and then traded him to the forty nine ers

803
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: for Brock Purty and Deebo Samuel I just.

804
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 3: Love First of all, Evan would quit because he hates

805
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 3: brock Purty. I have no interest in that trick, like you.

806
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 6: I don't think so, because when you just trade the picks,

807
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,439
Speaker 6: if that was you know, I mean, unless how would

808
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 6: it all come together?

809
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 9: You know?

810
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 6: Like if they're like whoa, we really want this guy? Well,

811
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 6: then just come take the pick and let's swat.

812
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: I guess yeah, but he.

813
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 3: Was Brock Purty and Deebo Samuel for the pick.

814
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 5: Like the Deebo Samuel part of it makes it a

815
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 5: little bit more intriguing, but the rock party part of

816
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 5: it I can't get over. So the answer is here,

817
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 5: Brock perty Is I say it. He literally has the

818
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 5: easiest job in the NFL. I know, just just just

819
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 5: throw the ball where it's supposed to be thrown.

820
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: That's it. That's not that easy in the NFL. I

821
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: would I give him credit for smarts.

822
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 3: I would absolutely give him credit for his play too.

823
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not lost in saying he should be

824
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 3: like an m v P or anything silly. I mean,

825
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 3: he's like who went on the list. But but I

826
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 3: do think that I've watched that offense play and I

827
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 3: think this is as productive as it's been since he

828
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 3: took over.

829
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 6: Do you think they had any idea that he was

830
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 6: just going to be able to play like this for them?

831
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 3: Like, I mean, it's just just a complete shot.

832
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 5: But because play like what I know, watch it, like,

833
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 5: I just it's so god like. He's just he's throwing

834
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 5: to wide open.

835
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 3: People like I, I don't understand.

836
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: I think you're exaggerated.

837
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 3: Did you did you see how wide opened?

838
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: What happens?

839
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 3: What do you mean it happened?

840
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: I mean Peate Manning didn't get you know, uh, black

841
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: marks because he was thrown to open you know, Marvin

842
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: Harrison Senior or first of all he.

843
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 3: Did around here. But the people, the excluding you who

844
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 3: dubbed him nas.

845
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: Yeahod noodle arm. But but no, we all know that

846
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: it's more than penis head.

847
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 5: I wonder how hard it is to make that three

848
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 5: yard throw in the flat to George Kittle and that really.

849
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 3: You can't okay, I mean it's high comedy.

850
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: I love it.

851
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 3: I'm here, as you said yesterday, I'm here for it.

852
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 5: So Jimmy, it must be terrible then, yes, Jimmy has

853
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 5: always been terrible like this is not He hasn't the

854
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 5: Shrine of Shanahan.

855
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: I mean, what's his record. He's got a pretty good record, right,

856
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, Well.

857
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, Lance gotta be kicking quarterback. It's just like, yeah,

858
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 3: I'm talking about the production has been infinitely better since

859
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 3: Perty took over than it was. Jimmy the wins and

860
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 3: losses are similar. But Jim Jimmy didn't have Christian McCaffrey.

861
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 3: That's true, fair enough, different had all the rest.

862
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: He's a running who makes a difference, Paul, he is

863
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: the only one in the league. Oh, don't give me that.

864
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: Come on, you've got you have to acknowledge his greatness.

865
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 5: I mean, did you see the touchdown pass that the

866
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 5: great the dime that dropped that brock pretty dropped the

867
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 5: Christian McCaffrey. There was nobody within ten yards of him.

868
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 5: I can't believe he made that throw. That was incredible

869
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 5: to me.

870
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 3: Guy was just important. You thinks there'll be someone narrow him?

871
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: Who's calling off the place at the line, Bradford, all right,

872
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: eighty five to five past five hundred is the ace

873
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: ticket hout line. Let's get to the phones because we

874
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: got a hurry today. Eric's in New Jersey.

875
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 3: What's up?

876
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: Eric?

877
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:36,919
Speaker 10: Hey?

878
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 9: Tew you guys doing happy Thanksgiving?

879
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 3: Guys too, thanks.

880
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 9: I just really want to talk not really about pictures,

881
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Speaker 9: but this bigger picture with the NFL and the product.

882
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Speaker 9: I think you guys are talking about it yesterday, but

883
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 9: just some of the fines that you know, even you've

884
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Speaker 9: seen Josh Josh Allen find you know, ten thousand just

885
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 9: for pointing, you know, Josh Jacobs, you know, just Lauren

886
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Speaker 9: has helped me.

887
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Speaker 10: It's just what is this?

888
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 9: What is this the product that it's I mean, the

889
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 9: quarterbacks already overprotected. I understand that, you know, these guys

890
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 9: are high paid, but they're how much more can you

891
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 9: protect the quarterback overall this league? It's just what is

892
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 9: this product? And you know, what is it looking forward

893
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 9: in the next ten to fifteen years, because it's just

894
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 9: continuously and continuously just kind of and I hate to

895
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Speaker 9: say the word soft. You know, these are real men

896
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Speaker 9: out here playing, but it's just I feel like there's

897
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Speaker 9: no scar tissue mentally built up physically and mentally, you

898
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Speaker 9: know some of these quarterback and I have to take

899
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Speaker 9: that off the line.

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Speaker 1: Thanks guys and have that okay? Thanks Eric?

901
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Speaker 3: I was confused.

902
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Speaker 11: I don't know.

903
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 4: I saw a mac Wilson find from last week which

904
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Speaker 4: was like, like how far do you go in the

905
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 4: name of safety?

906
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Speaker 3: But like what I mean he said, like Josh Allen

907
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Speaker 3: got fined for pointing at a guy. How soft are we?

908
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Speaker 3: And then he was like how much more are we

909
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Speaker 3: going to protect? The quarterbacks, Like I didn't think those

910
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Speaker 3: two things.

911
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Speaker 1: Well, well, no, I think he's lumping everything together.

912
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Speaker 3: But you know, there's gonna be injuries.

913
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Speaker 5: And now they're talking about banning the hip drop tackle,

914
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Speaker 5: which like is honestly, like that's a fabrication, like a hit.

915
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Speaker 5: The whole hip drop tackle thing is like a Twitter

916
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 5: creation hockey check is when So basically they the thing

917
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Speaker 5: is the NFL. They they wanted people to get the

918
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Speaker 5: head out of the tackle right right, So they taught

919
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 5: people to rap and then like roll, rap and roll.

920
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 5: That's like the kind of the catchphrase. So if you're

921
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Speaker 5: asking people to grab onto guys and then like roll

922
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Speaker 5: down to like bring them down but on their legs,

923
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Speaker 5: isn't that just naturally dropping your hips?

924
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Speaker 3: So like it's ridiculous. I don't know how you legislated

925
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 3: it this way, like this is what you asked for

926
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Speaker 3: and are immage by the way some of the adjustments

927
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Speaker 3: that the league made. We always criticized the league. Some

928
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Speaker 3: of the things that they did to try to do

929
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Speaker 3: their best to get the head out was smart. Yeah,

930
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Speaker 3: they they did. I think they they have helped a

931
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Speaker 3: little bit with player safety, but I agree one thousand

932
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Speaker 3: percent with Evan and I threw a rant about it

933
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Speaker 3: in the notes this week. I think back to like

934
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Speaker 3: the Seattle like videos that Pete Carroll was credited with

935
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Speaker 3: with the rugby style tackle, that's what this is. It's

936
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Speaker 3: more or less the hip drop tackle. Now they used

937
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Speaker 3: to show videos with the head to the side. You're

938
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Speaker 3: hitting with your shoulders, the lead contact in the mid section,

939
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Speaker 3: and you're rolling to get the guy under the ground.

940
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Speaker 3: You can't grab him by the back. That's a horse caller.

941
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 3: You can't hit him in the head right right, that's obvious.

942
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Speaker 3: The players themselves don't like hitting or getting hit in

943
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Speaker 3: the knees right for obvious reasons. Where else are you

944
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Speaker 3: supposed to go.

945
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Speaker 5: If you're at especially if you're if you're trailing, like

946
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Speaker 5: Logan Wilson was on Mark Andrews.

947
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 3: If the role tackle Adam Vinity tackle of Herschel Walker

948
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Speaker 3: under question.

949
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Speaker 5: The role tackle works if you're head on right, if

950
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 5: you're coming downhill at a player and tackling him. But

951
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 5: Logan Wilson was behind Mark Andrews and is chasing him,

952
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 5: so he grabs onto him and then like sits down

953
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 5: in his chair and drops his hips and he ends

954
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Speaker 5: up falling on Mark Andrews's ankle, and that's like what

955
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Speaker 5: everybody's all up in arms about.

956
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Speaker 3: But I don't.

957
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Speaker 1: They don't want guys falling backwards.

958
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Speaker 3: You know, And it's like, how do you don't want

959
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 3: guys to get tackled? And I get it, you know,

960
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 3: these injuries stink. That's the number one takeaway for me

961
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Speaker 3: from watching the whole the whole weekend slate of games

962
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Speaker 3: is how many really important guys to teams are lost,

963
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Speaker 3: either for the season or for significant chunks. It stinks.

964
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 3: I get it. But it's life. It happens every year,

965
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 3: and it's going to continue to happen unless you make

966
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 3: it flag football, which I think is coming. I mean,

967
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 3: I've been kind of overwhelmed by them in the money

968
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 3: on Twitter.

969
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 6: Twitter, you see every Monday it's all these fines come

970
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,919
Speaker 6: out and I Josh Jacobs is I don't eight nine

971
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Speaker 6: times for lowering his head into the like.

972
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have a problem with with the fines.

973
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 3: I have a problem with banning. Yeah, thank you guys.

974
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Speaker 3: Can we clip that? Yes? I have a problem with

975
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 3: the band.

976
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Speaker 1: What are you gonna drink after lunch?

977
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 3: Why don't you shut that was on called for him.

978
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Speaker 1: That's a good response that what I would say, what

979
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Speaker 1: a little hat shut? That put all right? Lots more

980
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Speaker 1: to do. Uh All's foods here and it's about half

981
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Speaker 1: a gallon of pepsi.

982
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Speaker 3: At two two threads. This is spreads right here.

983
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Speaker 11: And we are back after was it three weeks? Two

1006
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 11: week hiatus? I'll say two weeks? Been around the world? Faith, faith, moral,

1007
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Speaker 11: Tieth Falvin here for the PU halftime show. Their return.

1008
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 11: We took a little German hiatus. Then it was the

1009
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 11: bye week, so you know, we need to recharge a little.

1010
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 11: I'm gonna open up with some trivia. Yep, don't answer it,

1011
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 11: and we'll go from there.

1012
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: All right.

1013
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 11: Question one, and I don't know.

1014
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 3: This might be for a T shirt, a poster. I

1015
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 3: don't know.

1016
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 11: We'll see what happens. You're gonna get something. So question one,

1017
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 11: who recovered the butt fumble and scored the touchdown?

1018
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 8: All right?

1019
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 11: Question two? What year did the Lions first play on Thanksgiving?

1020
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 8: Good?

1021
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 3: Question?

1022
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:37,479
Speaker 11: Question three?

1023
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: How many times have.

1024
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Speaker 11: The Patriots hosted a Thanksgiving game?

1025
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 3: Yep?

1026
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 11: And faith? That is pretty much the topic of the

1027
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 11: day because Thanksgiving is this week. This is gonna go

1028
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 11: this Wednesday, so a little early, but happy Thanksgiving. So

1029
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 11: we're gonna do something a little different because the schedule

1030
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 11: is a little different this year. Yes, we are going

1031
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 11: to discuss the three Thanksgiving games, which are faith freedom

1032
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 11: to me.

1033
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 8: We've got Packers Lions at twelve thirty, Commanders Cowboys at

1034
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 8: four thirty and forty nine Ers Seahawks at eight to twenty.

1035
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 11: And then what we're really going to deep dive into

1036
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 11: is the first ever Black Friday game.

1037
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Speaker 8: Yeah, which is Dolphins Jets is at Jets.

1038
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 11: It is at Jets at Jets, which is all right,

1039
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 11: So let's let's start with the Thanksgiving games and faith.

1040
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 11: You know, I have some years on you, and this

1041
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 11: is the first Thanksgiving game i'm excited for because for

1042
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 11: my thirty years of resistance, the Lions have been awful

1043
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 11: to watch on Thanksgiving. It's been it's been miserable. It's

1044
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 11: not fun, and I just feel bad for them, and

1045
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 11: I'm excited. They are a good team.

1046
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 3: They're eight and too.

1047
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 11: They're eight and two. They just had a crazy divisional

1048
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 11: game against the Bears and where they came back and

1049
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 11: for the past god knows how many years, the lines

1050
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 11: lose that game ten out of ten times, and.

1051
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Speaker 8: Now they're favored by seven point favored by seven.

1052
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 11: Yeah, and they're a good team and the Packers are

1053
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 11: figuring out life post.

1054
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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers seems relatable.

1055
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Speaker 11: And of course, now that I'm saying this, it's gonna

1056
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Speaker 11: be an absolute stinker, like fourteen to ten. But I

1057
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 11: think we got some magic here. I think so. I

1058
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 11: think that defense is legit. They have a running back

1059
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 11: room that's crazy right now. And I think the Lions

1060
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 11: are gonna do it. They're gonna win, and they they

1061
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 11: they they might be a sneaky super Bowl paper for

1062
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 11: we are. Oh yeah, I'm drinking the Lions kool aid.

1063
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Speaker 8: You have drank the kool aid. No, But I think

1064
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 8: it's gonna be a great game. And I mean just

1065
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 8: I think I hope it's a high scoring matchup. I know,

1066
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 8: you know Ford Field, that's gonna be rocking to host

1067
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 8: that they deserve it like that it's gonna and just

1068
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 8: to be excited about their team this year, top of

1069
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 8: the AFS, the NFC North. I think that's just gonna

1070
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 8: be an exciting So do.

1071
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 11: You have to have the lines winning?

1072
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1073
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 11: Yeah, the lines I'm not crazy. So guys, we're not

1074
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 11: gonna do score predictions for this. We're gonna go a

1075
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Speaker 11: bit into the Black Friday games. That's the main topic.

1076
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Speaker 11: So let's touch on the second game, which is, you know,

1077
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 11: usually when the turkey hits the table. We got we

1078
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Speaker 11: got commanders at Dallas. Yes, Dallas has been under the radar.

1079
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 8: I mean there's seven and three.

1080
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 11: Commanders are four and seven and they have that cornerback

1081
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 11: Bland who's scoring more touchdowns than half the receivers in

1082
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 11: the league. Yes, pick sixes Washington, you know they it's

1083
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 11: interesting because they kind of fire did a fire sale

1084
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 11: on trade deadline day. But they just show up in

1085
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 11: these divisional games. I mean, evenf they lose, it's like.

1086
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Speaker 8: And be a close game, like like you said, usually

1087
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Speaker 8: the foods hitting the table. So we'll see how much

1088
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 8: of this we actually get to watch. But I think

1089
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 8: it'll be close. The divisional games are always tight. But

1090
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 8: I think Deck's really trying to prove himself this year,

1091
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 8: especially after just like all of the pressure and hate

1092
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 8: that he's gotten over the past few years. So I

1093
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 8: think it's gonna be competitive. But I don't see the

1094
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 8: Cowboys not winning.

1095
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,439
Speaker 11: I see the Cowboys winning, and we're looking ahead because

1096
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 11: you know, we're at the point now when you get

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Speaker 11: to the commercial break, it's has in the hunt graphic

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Speaker 11: and the playoff picture. Yeah, and I meanys are gonna

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Speaker 11: make the playoffs, but they're probably gonna lose the first round.

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00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 11: So then we got we got the night game. This

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00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 11: is where this is the food coma game.

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00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, this isn't the game where you're kind of in

1103
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 8: and out of sleep. You know, you're kind of dozing

1104
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 8: off a little bit more.

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00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 11: We got we got forty nine ers at Seattle.

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Speaker 8: This is gonna be this. I'm honestly most excited for

1107
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 8: this game because of how close the team's records are.

1108
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 8: You've got seven and three forty nine Ers the six

1109
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 8: and four Seahawks, Like, I just see this being a

1110
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 8: very close matchup.

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00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 11: And so it's interesting because I actually watched that most

1112
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 11: of that Seattle game, and I mean, they lost the

1113
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 11: gimme field goal and they probably should have just won.

1114
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 11: But I think the forty nine ers just got through

1115
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 11: the hump they were in and I think they're they're

1116
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 11: full go.

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00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 8: They are, and so I feel like this is a

1118
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 8: huge test for the Seahawks. Obviously, I feel like they've

1119
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 8: been trying to prove themselves all year. But I mean

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00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 8: they're six and four, like they're right there, and I think.

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00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 11: Seattle wins is just that home field advantage. But I

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00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 11: do think the forty nine Ers pulled off, which makes

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00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 11: it interesting because we could tie back to the first game.

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00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 11: We got some home field advantage situations with the Lions

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Speaker 11: and the forty nine ers.

1126
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Speaker 8: So we're picking the home team, are you picking the.

1127
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 11: I'm picking the forty Dinars to win that, okay, but

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Speaker 11: the Seahawks win, it's because the home field advantage.

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Speaker 8: That's fair. So like to travel that far though.

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00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 11: Yeah, and that's the divisional game. But I think perty

1131
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 11: Perty's got it unlocked. They're healthy again, they got Chase Debo.

1132
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 8: Both watching Chase Young and Nick Boon round the corner

1133
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 8: on quarterbacks, that's got to be horrifying, all right.

1134
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 11: So I was given the good to go, But you

1135
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 11: know what I really want to touch on the Black

1136
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 11: Friday game real quick. So we got Miami at New York.

1137
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 11: Obviously Miami's gonna win this, but the talk of this

1138
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 11: game isn't isn't the game itself. It's my new York

1139
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 11: made the quarterback change. They did it, and they put

1140
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 11: Zach at third string. I think they get blown out.

1141
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 11: Tim Boyle not an NFL quarterback. I saw something that

1142
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 11: he's just a Aaron Rodgers buddy. Yeah, and it's uh,

1143
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 11: you know he's.

1144
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 8: The only quarterback though to beat the Eagles or beat

1145
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 8: you know, James.

1146
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 11: Yeah, so well, I think I think that's a blowout.

1147
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 11: I think Miami's just gotta stay healthy. I'll say for

1148
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 11: that one, Miami wins like thirty four to ten.

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00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 3: Matchup.

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Speaker 11: Love it if you're Miami, get out of that met

1151
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 11: life turf. Get the win and get out, stay healthy.

1152
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 11: Shout and shout out to the league, because you know,

1153
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Speaker 11: I'll never complain about more football. So football on a Friday,

1154
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 11: it's pretty chill day. You know, you can drown your

1155
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 11: your shopping pain. If you gamble. You can gamble your

1156
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 11: money to go spend stuff on Black Friday deals. So faith,

1157
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 11: who do you have on that? Miami too?

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00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah?

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Speaker 11: Perfect? All right, guys, send your trivia answers in a

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Speaker 11: web radio Patris dot com and have a great Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back next week.

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00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 11: More halftime show.

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Speaker 13: When someone accidentally threw the school play costumes. Oh no,

1164
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,720
Speaker 13: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery,

1165
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 13: everyone can focus on the perfect opening night FedEx where

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Speaker 13: now it's next for residential delivery only.

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Speaker 3: And now great moments in.

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Speaker 1: History.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this turkey's every lettle.

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Speaker 1: They have them in the hills of north Brook.

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00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 3: Can't You can't find a turkey.

1172
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:12,919
Speaker 11: You're not a good hunter.

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00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 3: You need to s Oh yeah, that's all.

1174
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: And there I would soon. They're pretty easy to shoot.

1175
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: They're huge.

1176
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 3: Now maybe it's all feathers and you miss and you

1177
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 3: got to hit, you know, center of man. Some of

1178
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 3: them go on the offensive though there is Oh yeah,

1179
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 3: they mark you, yeah, and they attack. I could see

1180
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 3: you being made of turkey's bitch.

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00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: Oh they like pecket your Now, that would be a

1182
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: great story if you were you know, it would be

1183
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 1: an ironic ironic no, wedded by a turkey, like yeah,

1184
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: actually you were forced to become the mate of a turkey.

1185
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: The that thing we were doing the other day, Eric

1186
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 1: would be penetrated by a turkey. That's another great moment

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Speaker 1: Who wrote this They edited out everything and now it

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Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. Halftime show show within a show,

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Speaker 1: we had some trivia. Oh you guys writing? Yeah, yep, okay.

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00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: First one who recovered the butt fumble and scored the touchdown?

1202
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: Steve Gregory, yep, good one. Ryan Dobson got that one right.

1203
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: What year did the Lions first play on Thanksgiving?

1204
00:52:58,239 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 3: Nineteen sixty four?

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00:52:59,400 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 8: Wrong?

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00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:01,280
Speaker 1: Not even close?

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00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 3: Forty five?

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00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: No earlier?

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00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 3: Oh thirty four, thirty four? Yeah, what was it like

1210
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 3: back then?

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00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 8: Oh?

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00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: He's looking at Paul when he says that.

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00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 3: Five years.

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Speaker 1: How many times have the Patriots hosted hosted a Thanksgiving game?

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00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 11: Zero?

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00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: Correct?

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00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 3: That would have been my guest, But I thought no

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00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 3: one got it. I thought it was a trick question.

1219
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, no one got it.

1220
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 3: So how many times have they played on Thanksgiving?

1221
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: Four times?

1222
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 8: Right?

1223
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:30,959
Speaker 3: Four times?

1224
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 6: I don't know, remember Detroit last year in Minnesota?

1225
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, twice Detroit, right, twice?

1226
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 3: Detroit more than twice, I know.

1227
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, because two thousand they played in Detroit.

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00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 3: Five according to Matt Murray, five times two thousand and

1229
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 3: two and then like two thousand.

1230
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Speaker 1: You know, we talk about swat depressing games now that

1231
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Speaker 1: we think I think about it, that two thousand game

1232
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Speaker 1: in Detroit on Thanksgiving was one of the more depressing games.

1233
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Speaker 1: It was like something like that I'm missing thanks to this.

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Speaker 3: They lost the game, like thirty four to nine. Yeah,

1235
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 3: take the like out. It was thirty four to nine.

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00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 3: And I really feel like the Patriots, I will played

1238
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 3: them the whole game. They just kept watching the ball

1239
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 3: up and down the field and drew a throw, a

1240
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 3: pick or something would happen, and it was awful. You

1241
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 3: knew it. They were getting killed. You know, at least

1242
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 3: last year Brady got his first. It was a competitive

1243
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 3: in the game, you know I didn't. I mean, last

1244
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 3: year wasn't so bad because it was ended. The last

1245
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 3: year was an entertaining game. But it's still I mean

1246
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 3: kind of thanks to this holidays. Sure, I got my

1247
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 3: turkey in.

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00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 1: All right, let's keep going here. Paul's done. So Mark's

1249
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: in Connecticut. What's up? Mark? Oh?

1250
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Speaker 3: Mark, you deserved that.

1251
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mark, line down, Let's go to line down. No,

1252
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Speaker 1: that means that's line three. Eldridge is in North Carolina

1253
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: doing double duty. I heard you calling in on Catch

1254
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Speaker 1: twenty two.

1255
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Speaker 3: Eldred and Buns to pick sir.

1256
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Speaker 10: How y'all doing.

1257
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, you were giving praise for your call. They love

1258
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 1: you talk.

1259
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 3: You have to talk to you boo.

1260
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Speaker 10: Uh there you go, hey, Area, don't give me. I'm

1261
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 10: just joking, all right, but uh, I gotta, I gotta.

1262
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 10: I was just jealous, and with just jealous fall You're.

1263
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Speaker 1: My favorite two.

1264
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Speaker 10: You and Fred for years, fifteen years, been arguing with y'all,

1265
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 10: except lately we've been agreeing, which I don't like. I

1266
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 10: really argue anybody.

1267
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 3: Else, So I'll just walked out.

1268
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: Nothing nothing, brings people together than failure. But anyway, go ahead.

1269
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Speaker 10: Yeah, but uh but two two scenario, Evan, I would

1270
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Speaker 10: love to get Parrison, but I gotta fit the Chicago

1271
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 10: gonna pick him they have justin fields out. And the

1272
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Speaker 10: other scenario, what if the keep everything intact and beild

1273
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 10: trade down? How would y'all feel to get more picks

1274
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 10: and I take it off there?

1275
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Speaker 3: From from where? Trade down from where? Eldred from number

1276
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Speaker 3: from three? Three from three? I don't think i'd like

1277
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 3: all right, three, I don't think i'd like it, But

1278
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 3: four or five I could make an argument for it,

1279
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 3: because now the tackle might be the best player on

1280
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 3: the board and you don't want it.

1281
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Speaker 6: I don't want Yeah, I mean it's on one hand,

1282
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 6: I just have to admit that they got a lot

1283
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 6: of holes to film, and so I mean, I think

1284
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 6: I need to see what it looked like. I mean,

1285
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 6: if you were to trade down from you know, like

1286
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 6: four to eight and you pick up another.

1287
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to go from second round. No no, no, no,

1288
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 3: no no no.

1289
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 6: But I think that there's an argument to be made

1290
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 6: if you still are picking high enough that you can

1291
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 6: get impact players.

1292
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what I think they need. They need

1293
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 3: impact players.

1294
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 6: They don't need twenty seven to three third round picks

1295
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 6: where they're going to take five picks in the top fifty.

1296
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't need twelve draft picks if like last year,

1297
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 3: they're all going to be in the seventh round, sixth round,

1298
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 3: whatever I want. You know, I don't need to have

1299
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 3: like extra picks. I just need higher picks. What would

1300
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 3: the return beef to go from three to eight?

1301
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 11: Though?

1302
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know, Like I mean, is that you

1303
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 3: get a first next to look at the chart. No,

1304
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 3: you could get you know, you get something like that,

1305
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 3: or you know, you could get you switch spots, someone

1306
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 3: gives you a two, or maybe they have two first rounds,

1307
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 3: you know, like I.

1308
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 6: Three fields like a sweet spot though, I mean, at

1309
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 6: least at this point. And I think everything changes too,

1310
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 6: Like once we get into the draft thing, certain things

1311
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 6: are going to happen.

1312
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:13,919
Speaker 3: Guys are gonna get.

1313
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Speaker 1: Murg you know, you're gonna get at least one of

1314
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: the two quarterbacks or.

1315
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 3: Harris Harris, Yeah, which I or you can dangle that

1316
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 3: carrot for either, which I think you could definitely talk

1317
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 3: yourself into, you know, like if it was Harrison and

1318
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 3: then you find a way to get you know, one

1319
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 3: of the the lower rated quarterbacks later, like Jaydon Daniels.

1320
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 3: You know, like you could talk yourself into that.

1321
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1322
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, this just to me, like with the tackle thing,

1323
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 3: and I understand, like you need to you need help

1324
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 3: on your offensive line. I'm not blind to that they

1325
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 3: need to improve the offensive line, but there's been a

1326
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 3: lot of first round tackles in the last three or

1327
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 3: four years that have just been terrible. And I just

1328
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 3: feel like no one really thinks of that as like

1329
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 3: a franchise crippling draft pick for some reason, when I

1330
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 3: think it just it kills you to have like an

1331
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 3: Evan Neil in the first round the Giants, right, aren't

1332
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 3: both of their guys? I think so? Aren't both of

1333
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 3: their tackles? Yeah, Andrew Thomas was a first round pick too,

1334
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 3: wasn't he? Yeah, and I don't think either one of

1335
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 3: those guys has panned out. It's a terrible offensive line.

1336
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 3: What's holding the Giants back? Quarter mean, I mean, but

1337
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 3: the quarterback who runs for his life every game too.

1338
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 3: Right now, I don't think Daniel Jones is great. I

1339
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 3: think he's part of the problem. I think if you

1340
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 3: had a good quarterback. Maybe these guys would be okay.

1341
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 3: But my point is, who's like after Evan Neil and

1342
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 3: Andrew Thomas. You know, Isaiah win and you know, there's

1343
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:45,959
Speaker 3: a lot of first round tackles that have been taken

1344
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 3: that have been just well, like Becton, Mikai Beckton's another one. Yeah,

1345
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 3: he's been hurt constantly. He's been decent this year, but

1346
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 3: again part of the worst offensive line. Do you happen

1347
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 3: to see that some of the rankings had the Patriots

1348
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 3: at like twenty one one? That's pretty good. I'm only

1349
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 3: another indictment of the quarterback.

1350
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: Uh the sean writes in at web radio at Patriots

1351
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: dot com. He's in New York. If there's any franchise

1352
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: in the history of sports that deserves the tank, it's

1353
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: the Patriots. I go as far to say that it

1354
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: would be irresponsible to win this game Sunday. I honestly

1355
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: think Robert Craft should implore Bill to lose. What are

1356
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: your thoughts? I disagree.

1357
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 6: I would really like to just hear Paul lay out

1358
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 6: a perfect scenario of how they win this game, because

1359
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 6: I feel like Paul will lay out exactly how it

1360
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 6: will happen.

1361
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 3: Of special I don't know. I don't want to put

1362
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 3: words in your mouth though, is I don't want to say,

1363
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 3: you know, like I mean, there.

1364
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 6: Haven't been any special team scores. There haven't been any

1365
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 6: defensive score. How the Patriots win this right, Like, I

1366
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 6: feel like you're you got to beat on how it's

1367
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 6: gonna unfold.

1368
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 3: I think that if the Patriots win this game, it's

1369
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 3: gonna be one of those days where they they create

1370
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 3: the turnovers and they lead to points. Yeah, and I

1371
00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 3: think that's been what's happening to the Giants. Like our

1372
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 3: producer Don does our TV show Freddie Don Maxon, he's

1373
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 3: a Giants guy. He likes the Giants and he's been

1374
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 3: talking about it for the last couple of weeks. Like

1375
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 3: their defense is pretty good. It's not like Cleveland good,

1376
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 3: but it's pretty good. And it's made to look horrible

1377
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 3: because the offense just does so little to help them.

1378
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: So won't it be funny if you know the game

1379
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:26,439
Speaker 1: obviously is at MetLife. If you know, Patriots do something great,

1380
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 1: lot of cheers, Giants do something great, lot of cheers,

1381
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: but the opposite teams fans cheering.

1382
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 3: But you won't know, it'll be interesting to see, you

1383
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 3: won't know how many Patriots fans are at this game,

1384
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 3: because the Patriots fans have generally traveled pretty well no

1385
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 3: matter where they are. I'd be curious to see.

1386
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 6: What kind of more curious if it was at home,

1387
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 6: like what the response is like from the crowd here.

1388
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 1: But I'm sure Giants fans want to tank just as

1389
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 1: much as Patriots fans, don't you think.

1390
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1391
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 3: That's a good question. I don't know. So getting back

1392
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 3: to Eldred's little draft thing, these kinds of things, I

1393
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 3: don't know why they interest me so much, But like,

1394
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 3: do you do you think that they would take a

1395
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 3: quarterback or do you think they would roll the dice

1396
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 3: and go with fields?

1397
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 1: Again, Oh, Chicago, you mean yeah, I think that if

1398
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 1: they have the top, they'll they'll take a quarterback.

1399
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 3: I do too, Yeah, I have a new coach. I

1400
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 3: don't think they'll pass on a quarterback. And you could

1401
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 3: keep fields and take a quarterback and then you know,

1402
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 3: roll the dice with fields, and then that way you

1403
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 3: kind of put yourself in a position of power. If

1404
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 3: it works and you want to go forward with fields,

1405
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 3: then you can trade. You can trade your other guy.

1406
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 3: It's not gonna it's not costing you a tremendous amount,

1407
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 3: it's not an overly expensive backup. Or if fields doesn't

1408
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 3: work out, nothing nothing lost, and you let your rookie

1409
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 3: sit a while and develop and wait, I don't think

1410
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 3: it's the worst idea to hold onto both of them.

1411
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 6: There's a new coach, that's what I think. Like he's

1412
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:53,959
Speaker 6: gonna want to put his stamp on it. He's gonna

1413
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 6: want his guy. But it's appealing to me. And in

1414
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 6: a similar way of just like hanging onto mac, is you.

1415
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 3: Just be a tremendous roll of the dice to just

1416
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 3: hang on the field and not take a quarterback.

1417
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 1: If a team drafts a guy and he says, I'm

1418
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: not going there, I'm going back to college. Is there

1419
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 1: any compensation for that team? Where did they just lose

1420
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 1: the pit?

1421
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm not going there. I'm going back

1422
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 3: to college.

1423
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 1: You can't do that. You can't do that.

1424
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 3: No, Once you're once you're in the draft, you can't

1425
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 3: do that. Ok, once you hire an agent, is that No,

1426
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 3: you can hire an agent and go back. But once

1427
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 3: you declare for the draft and it's final, that's it.

1428
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 3: That you just can't like, if you don't get drafted,

1429
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 3: you don't get to go back to college. Okay, that

1430
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 3: happens to a lot of guys, right, yeah, Okay, but

1431
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 3: there is a deadline. I don't have it in front

1432
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 3: of me. I mean there are specific dates and times

1433
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 3: when you can It happens more in basketball where guys

1434
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 3: declare you know, but maybe they won't talk to an agent,

1435
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 3: you know, and they can pull back before the deadline,

1436
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 3: you know, they kind of test the waters and see

1437
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 3: what kind of interest there is. And yeah, I know,

1438
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 3: let's face it, it's becoming more more cloudy by the

1439
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 3: year with all the yeah, the ni L It's pretty

1440
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 3: soon it's just going to be those power schools off

1441
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 3: by themselves and they'll leave the NCAAA behind.

1442
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 1: Well, right, Saint Paul. You stated earlier that if Garrett

1443
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: was probably wrong, if Garrett Wilson was on the Patriots

1444
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 1: this year, Mack would be better if we can get

1445
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior in the draft. Can you envision a

1446
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 1: world where that gives Mac another life at starting quarterback?

1447
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 1: I hope not, but I can see the debate being made.

1448
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think that's that's true. I think Marvin

1449
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 3: Harrison would help, but don't mistake me saying that I

1450
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 3: think you'd be better for being me thinking that he's

1451
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 3: good because I know I've kind of come more and

1452
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 3: six but better. I think it would be better. I

1453
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 3: think the better. This is about the whole team, not

1454
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 3: just Mac Jones. Yeah, I've never said that this roster

1455
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 3: is loaded and they should be winning, but the quarterback

1456
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 3: is killing him.

1457
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 1: He also says, why do people give Mac Jones more

1458
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 1: free passes? I guess compared to Zach Wilson. Well, he's

1459
01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 1: not as bad as Zach Wilson.

1460
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 3: Oh that's really close for it. No, it isn't, Yes

1461
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 3: it is. I mean you can you can pretend it's

1462
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 3: not because you think because he's a punching bag and

1463
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 3: your guy is like, you know, had success the first

1464
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 3: eight games of his career. None sense. But it's not

1465
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 3: really that different. It's not that different.

1466
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 6: I think that last pick Mac two is very Zach Wilson.

1467
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 3: I mean Zach Wilson.

1468
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 6: What we've seen from Zach Wilson, Like with some of

1469
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 6: those games, I don't think Max had as many as

1470
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 6: those like.

1471
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 3: Four turnovers, like what are you doing? Games? But this

1472
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 3: last game was do you remember the amount of times

1473
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 3: like Zach Wilson would sort of like buy time in

1474
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 3: the pocket, roll towards the sideliner, kind of throwing it away.

1475
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 3: He rolls Kevin mccordy. That's the throwback across the field

1476
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 3: that Mac Jones just made five times in the last

1477
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 3: two years. Like, it's not that different. Do I think

1478
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 3: he's better? Yes, by this much, They're not very different.

1479
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 6: I feel like Mac is getting closer to Zach Wilson.

1480
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 3: And I will I will say this in Max defense.

1481
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,439
Speaker 3: I don't think Mac Wilson has the amount of talent

1482
01:04:58,520 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 3: around him that Zack Wilson does.

1483
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 1: Yeahs uh, Nathan, I mean Mac Jones. Nathan is from Brookline.

1484
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: He says. I love listening to the show. I try

1485
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: to listen to every episode, but I can't listen to

1486
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 1: them live because I'm in school. I'm a set in

1487
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 1: seventh grade. My question is if you were in Bill

1488
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 1: Belichick's position, what moves would you make? Who would you

1489
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,479
Speaker 1: like to see more of against the Giants? I would

1490
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 1: like to see more Marty Mapho and give Taekwon Thornton

1491
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: at least one more chance. PS. Today is an early

1492
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 1: release day I'm not skipping school. Nice.

1493
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mapu was a guy that I picked for your roundtable.

1494
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 3: I think you asked that question, which one player like

1495
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 3: one player? But I with a caveat of I want

1496
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 3: to see him play linebacker. I don't want to see

1497
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 3: him play safety.

1498
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. I had Keon White on more downs.

1499
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 3: Yeah you know, yeah, good one. Another good one.

1500
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 6: I think Thornton's a good one too. It's and I

1501
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 6: feel like you're kind of hoping against all odds with

1502
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 6: him right now.

1503
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm almost to the point where I've seen enough.

1504
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 3: Of who Thornton Thorty. It's interesting he's seen enough of Thornton,

1505
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 3: but he wants to trut Mac back out there and

1506
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:00,040
Speaker 3: just tell him this is the last.

1507
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 1: Different different Hu. I mean it this time. One of

1508
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 1: one of Matt's problems is Taekwon Thornton unbelievable.

1509
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,959
Speaker 3: Like the emailer is right, it's just at some point

1510
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 3: it's on you. At some point your performance is on you.

1511
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 3: I know.

1512
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 1: But if you could show up these other things you

1513
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 1: know would be.

1514
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 3: He still wouldn't be good enough.

1515
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 6: I think something else that doesn't get said about the

1516
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 6: quarterback position is that it's more than just his performance too.

1517
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 3: It's just an overall.

1518
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 6: Confidence of the team, you know, like there's just so

1519
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 6: much that goes in that that position has just so

1520
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 6: much more impact than you know, you talk about well

1521
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 6: past protection, you know, like the quarterback is who the

1522
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 6: team is a lot of that's your identity, like you know,

1523
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 6: it's everybody's got to get behind him and pull and not.

1524
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 3: Right now, can I ask a question for you, Fred

1525
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 3: about the round table? Yeah, you know, the Mike's little

1526
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 3: bonus question that's always you know, zany offbeat Mike. What

1527
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 3: what was your answer?

1528
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 1: Mike?

1529
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 3: How did you put it? What is your what's your

1530
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 3: favorite New York?

1531
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 1: I wanted it to show me yours first.

1532
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 3: I wrote, how did I put it? There's a lot

1533
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 3: there's a lot of great stuff in New York. Too

1534
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 3: bad the Giants play in Jersey, because I figured that's

1535
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 3: what Fred would say. No, And then I said, you

1536
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 3: know you're gonna make fun of me, but like this,

1537
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 3: there's nothing like seeing the show on bad Way.

1538
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 1: You do a lot of that. I did. Wow. Wow,

1539
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 1: I can see Paul like w in this scar finish.

1540
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 3: Generally dressed exactly the way I am right.

1541
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 1: Now, walking stick.

1542
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 3: Monicle.

1543
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, my answer.

1544
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 3: I'm man enough to know that Fred was gonna make

1545
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 3: fun of me, and I said it anyway, My uh

1546
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 3: my thing.

1547
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 1: Favorite thing about New York was sour krawt on hot dogs.

1548
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I thought there's nothing. No, I was waiting

1549
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 1: for a snarky There's nothing like a good street hot

1550
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 1: dog in New York with sour kraut and mustard.

1551
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 3: I think that is a very underrated part of New York.

1552
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 3: Just that ability to just get a hot like he

1553
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 3: just walked.

1554
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 1: Those dogs get hot, those dogs sitting in that water

1555
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 1: all day and it just so it's great.

1556
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 3: And I gotta tell you were there, and I think

1557
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 3: Will must have gotten like three one afternoon. It's like

1558
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 3: those were so good. Can I get another way? Yeah?

1559
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's nothing like it. And then the second thing

1560
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 1: would be leaving New York.

1561
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 3: No, Alex writes in the bars, didn't I say something

1562
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 3: about the bar. I don't think I said the bar

1563
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:17,640
Speaker 3: like that.

1564
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 6: I didn't review him that I only got yours too back.

1565
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 6: I didn't have a chance yet to review them, but

1566
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 6: I'll take it.

1567
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 3: He didn't proof for you them yet.

1568
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I left out a w for Will. I

1569
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 1: just so if you could correct, correct it?

1570
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, Will he's intentionally making typos to keep you

1571
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 3: on your toe happy Thanksgiving for Alex in the car

1572
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 3: from Raleigh to Petucket.

1573
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 1: I think Max should be sat for the rest of

1574
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: the season. I've written and often to say I've never

1575
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 1: been a Mac guy. When we drafted him, I said

1576
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 1: he wasn't the guy. I don't think Zappi is the guy.

1577
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 1: But MATC just looks broken and I don't think I'm

1578
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 1: playing him will fix anything. He makes the same mistakes.

1579
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 1: So why is the team giving into the insanity of

1580
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 1: starting I hope the Patriots win or my wife will

1581
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: have a fun Sunday with Giants pride.

1582
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 8: Oh.

1583
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 6: I mean, I think I think we all agree. It's

1584
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 6: just you just want to get a look at something different.

1585
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 6: And I don't know, I mean, to Evan's point, this

1586
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 6: doesn't seem like the game where Max is gonna get right.

1587
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 6: You know, maybe you'd feel like a little bit more

1588
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 6: optimistic if it was they just rushed two or three

1589
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 6: or four guys. They play a lot of zone. It

1590
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 6: kind of feeds into what the Patriots want to do.

1591
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 6: And I mean the interesting thing though, is is you

1592
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:31,719
Speaker 6: know we get these next gen stat things. The Giants

1593
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 6: are second in blitz rate, but they're twenty ninth in

1594
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 6: pressure rate. Just kind of an interesting little disparity between.

1595
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 6: They send a lot of guys a lot, but get

1596
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 6: a ton of pressure, at least as far as only

1597
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 6: like six right. Yeah, And by contrast, the Patriots are

1598
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 6: eight eighth for blitz rate and twenty third for pressure rates.

1599
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 6: So it's still not great, but not the disparity of

1600
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 6: second to twenty ninth.

1601
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, stats, huh interesting.

1602
01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:59,759
Speaker 1: Interesting, So let's take it a step further.

1603
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 3: Hm hmmmm. And I'm going to look at something right now,

1604
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 3: a couple of entry. Let's see, opponents have attempted three

1605
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty two passes against the Patriots and three

1606
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy one against the Giants, So that would

1607
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:18,480
Speaker 3: make it even worse for the Giants.

1608
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 1: About half a game's worth its passes.

1609
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 3: But even less pressure.

1610
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 1: At my point, Brandon writes in I think Mike Evans

1611
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 1: is a perfect example of talented team and other parts,

1612
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 1: but he needed the right quarterback, and in his case,

1613
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 1: he was a forty plus year old future Hall of

1614
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 1: Famer will helped raise the talent to a championship level.

1615
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 3: I guess Mike Evans is a terrific player.

1616
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah he's still doing well.

1617
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's still doing well now, right thinking with jamis

1618
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 3: like the team wasn't good enough to win the super Bowl,

1619
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 3: but that had nothing to do with Mike Evans. I've

1620
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 3: been doing that a lot though.

1621
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,719
Speaker 6: I've been like thinking of, you know, all time talented

1622
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 6: receivers that never were on good teams, or all time

1623
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 6: talented tackles that were never on good teams, and like.

1624
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 3: You can find a lot you can't find all time.

1625
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:02,560
Speaker 3: There's a ton of tackles that you could do that

1626
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 3: all time.

1627
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,640
Speaker 6: Thomas, Joe Thomas was one I thought of, but you know,

1628
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 6: like Megatron in no offense to Stafford.

1629
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 3: No, absolutely Megatron would be Jones came on later. But yeah,

1630
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 3: now in terms of like winning winning titles, if you like,

1631
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 3: that's the Felagrimaz thing, like you're nothing if you didn't

1632
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 3: win the title. There's a lot of really good players

1633
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,799
Speaker 3: that were on good teams that won plenty of games.

1634
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 3: But like Joe Thomas was never even on a good team. Yeah,

1635
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 3: you know, like to me, Julio Jones, yeah, good teams

1636
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,679
Speaker 3: they just never won at all, you know, but there's

1637
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:37,560
Speaker 3: no quarterbacks like that.

1638
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 6: Like, I don't think you could say there's a really

1639
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 6: talented quarterback that I mean, of course didn't want to

1640
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 6: kill but but didn't you know.

1641
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 3: No, but but just didn't win. Never they they won.

1642
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:48,759
Speaker 3: But like, yeah, it would be like if Justin Herbert

1643
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 3: plays his whole career the divisional round and the record

1644
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 3: stays the way it is now it's like five hundred,

1645
01:11:55,160 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 3: that would be kind of an abnormally Nominally.

1646
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 1: Sergio in California says, he said, he says, start all

1647
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:05,879
Speaker 1: four it but with me personally, I do a platoon

1648
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 1: situation for Tommedy Mack would play the first quarter, zapply

1649
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 1: the second quarter, Will Grier third, and have kind of

1650
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 1: him close.

1651
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 3: Out, you know, the Benny Hill music playing the whole time.

1652
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 3: Can I just tell you that that would be unbelievably fascinating. Yeah,

1653
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 3: be different.

1654
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 1: It's preseason, basically, it would be they'd be treated like

1655
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 1: a preseason game. They'd have to get you on the broadcast, Paul, Yeah, yeah,

1656
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:29,680
Speaker 1: I'm here for that.

1657
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 3: That's right.

1658
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 1: So line down has been waiting for a while. Let's

1659
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 1: go to Trey in Florida.

1660
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 3: What's up?

1661
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:42,440
Speaker 1: Oh, Trey's line is down. Let's go to Mark and Everett. Mark,

1662
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 1: Happy Things.

1663
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 14: Here is all the greatest and the first podcast. You

1664
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 14: guys are the best.

1665
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:51,600
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you.

1666
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 14: Okay, so on the building and I hope we don't

1667
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 14: beat him up too much. He is the best of

1668
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:01,640
Speaker 14: all times. And what do you say a third years

1669
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 14: and Macus is going through that sophomore jains than we

1670
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 14: just hang on for him for one more year, give

1671
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 14: the big bunch.

1672
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's hard to make the case for that.

1673
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 3: Of him being the quarterback next year. Yeah, I think

1674
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 3: there's a chance of that.

1675
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can you hear me?

1676
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's a chance that he could be

1677
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 3: the quarterback in twenty four. Yes, a chance. Yeah, I

1678
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 3: don't know. If they don't get in a position to

1679
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 3: get one of the quarterbacks, what's your alternative? You gotta

1680
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 3: I mean, you gotta have a season, right, I agree?

1681
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 1: All right? Thanks Mark.

1682
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,640
Speaker 3: Ironically, I don't think we agree like that to me

1683
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:46,719
Speaker 3: would be the worst case scenario. I can't find anybody

1684
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 3: else and I have to I have to run it

1685
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 3: back possible.

1686
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,560
Speaker 1: Jeff and Brooklyn about the party versus Mac comparison. You

1687
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 1: know that Mac has wide open people too, and he

1688
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 1: doesn't throw to.

1689
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 3: Them or he misses them like he did in in Indy.

1690
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 1: Also, Purdy's mechanics very good and above all consistent. He

1691
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:05,600
Speaker 1: has very compact, consistent motion, other things Matt can't do.

1692
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm you know, Evan's not here to defend himself,

1693
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 3: so I won't be labored the point. But I also

1694
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 3: I don't pretend I don't watch every Niners game, but

1695
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 3: when I see them, I don't see great protection. I

1696
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:21,719
Speaker 3: don't see a great offensive line with pass protection and whatnot.

1697
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:24,600
Speaker 3: And he moves around, slides around, changes arm angles, and

1698
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 3: I think he's had more to do with that success

1699
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 3: of the offense than Evan gives it credit for. Now,

1700
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 3: am I telling you that no one else could do that? No,

1701
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that. I'm telling you I don't think

1702
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 3: it would look anywhere near that good with Mac Jones,

1703
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 3: just like it didn't look that good with Jimmy Garoppolo.

1704
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 1: Right Mitch in Albany, I saw stat recently that Matt

1705
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 1: Judon still leads to the Patriots and Sacks. I know

1706
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 1: the defense has been pretty solid overall, but why have

1707
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 1: they not been able to get after the quarterback did

1708
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 1: us just have a great stretch last season and we'll

1709
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 1: never see that again. I thought he would be at

1710
01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 1: least decent. Also, where has Keon White been?

1711
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:03,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's uh. I mean, I know it's been going

1712
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 3: around with UCH.

1713
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 6: People have been talking, well, the you know, the metrics

1714
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 6: still look okay with pressure and things like that. Steve

1715
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 6: Belichick said earlier this week that he would generally agree

1716
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 6: with that. I just I think it's about finishing right now,

1717
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 6: and that's what they don't have. They don't have the finishers.

1718
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 6: Got Barmore gets pressure, and you know he certainly has

1719
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 6: finished some. But you just look at Gardner Minshew. You

1720
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 6: know he's contained in the pocket.

1721
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:23,639
Speaker 3: He's running around.

1722
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 6: It's just nobody can get through a block and get

1723
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:28,560
Speaker 6: to the quarterback and and take him down. And I

1724
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 6: mean it's Judon is still the leading the leading sacker

1725
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 6: on is that a word? Sacker?

1726
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 3: The leading sack man on the team. Like, it's just

1727
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 3: that to me.

1728
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:38,679
Speaker 6: You can talk and I know sacks is an overrated

1729
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 6: stat but right now, I do think it's it's telling

1730
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 6: that they just can't finish.

1731
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 3: Just talking about sacks. I would totally agree that the

1732
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 3: metrics are probably similar. But I think Mike bringing up

1733
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:51,640
Speaker 3: that Colts game is is relevant because yeah, they got

1734
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 3: some pressure and that that's put in check box check

1735
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 3: marks and those boxes for the metrics. But you're allowing

1736
01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 3: place when you get pressure and the ball has to

1737
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:02,599
Speaker 3: come out quick and it's an incomplete pass. That's where

1738
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 3: the sack is misleading. They haven't had a lot of that,

1739
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 3: I don't think. I think for the most part, when

1740
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 3: they've had pressure to get you know, I thought Sam

1741
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 3: Howell did the same thing to them in that game.

1742
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 3: He was able to get out of the pocket, move around,

1743
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 3: find a guy, and make a play.

1744
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,719
Speaker 1: Jacket and Arbor says by mentioning Fred and his wrestling

1745
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 1: singlet you have just ruined my Thanksgiving weekend. That is

1746
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 1: an image that I cannot unsee, even if it's only

1747
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 1: in my mind's eye. Now it will be a week

1748
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 1: before you can get a good night's sleep.

1749
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 3: Well, at least it's Thanksgiving and food.

1750
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 1: And I was cut back then, let me tell you.

1751
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 3: I was currently. My wife still thinks you're cut Fred,

1752
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know what she's looking.

1753
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:49,879
Speaker 1: Let's see el Tony writes in Longtime Listening, First Time emailer.

1754
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:54,720
Speaker 1: After meeting you all at Gibson's. We actually set off

1755
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 1: a day earlier once we'd seen you that you were

1756
01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 1: broadcasting live on that Friday. Oh, they came to to

1757
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:02,640
Speaker 1: see us. Not a great game, as we know, but

1758
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 1: still fantastic to see the Patriots live. Will be over

1759
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 1: to Foxborough next season, I hope. On the Germany postgame show,

1760
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 1: Paul said he didn't think an international franchise would work,

1761
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:15,639
Speaker 1: and that events such as the Frankfurt game are only

1762
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 1: likely to work as a big occasion, a bit like

1763
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 1: US interest in the World Cup. I'm paraphrasing a bit here.

1764
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 3: That's pretty close. I think that pretty much relays what

1765
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:24,760
Speaker 3: I said.

1766
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 1: Forgetting the whole logistics issue. For a minute of flying

1767
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 1: teams back and forth across the Atlantic, I have to disagree.

1768
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 1: I think it could work, but only if the teams

1769
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 1: were located in the right cities, tickets. It goes on

1770
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:37,600
Speaker 1: and on.

1771
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 3: I didn't think this was that long, No, But I'd

1772
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 3: be curious from a perspective on the other side, Yeah,

1773
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 3: I'm kind of interested in that.

1774
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 8: No.

1775
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:45,640
Speaker 1: I think that.

1776
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 3: If you could summarize it, Yeah, I think.

1777
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 1: One international franchise can't work. I think if you're going

1778
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 1: to do that, you need to create a division in

1779
01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 1: Europe where they play amongst them else and then they

1780
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 1: come over for a month and play games here, you know,

1781
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:07,759
Speaker 1: so I think.

1782
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think that works. Now, I don't

1783
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 3: what I what I was getting at, and maybe I'm wrong,

1784
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 3: And he had the information there on to explain why

1785
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 3: I'm wrong is that I feel like those games are

1786
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 3: big time special events and they are treated as such,

1787
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:30,599
Speaker 3: whereas if you just played a game every week over

1788
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 3: there and you had to, you know, you force feed

1789
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 3: you know, the Ryan Fire is their team. I'm not

1790
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 3: sure that you have that same interest level over there

1791
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 3: to support it, Forget, And he's right, the reason it

1792
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 3: can't work is logistics, Like so you're gonna have him

1793
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 3: spend a month in the US and play it like

1794
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 3: a month of road games, and like that's not fair,

1795
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 3: Like that's not the best way to have an equitable league.

1796
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 3: I just don't think that makes a lot of sense.

1797
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 3: And I compared it to the World Cup, Freddie, Yeah,

1798
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 3: the World Cup. He when when the US hosts the

1799
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 3: World Cup, it's enormous. Yeah, and we largely don't care.

1800
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 3: The other three and a half years.

1801
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 1: It just well, if the US team did a little better,

1802
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 1: we might that year that they did well.

1803
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 3: I mean, but I think the World Cup itself is

1804
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 3: wildly popular because it's a major event. Yeah, and we

1805
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 3: will go crazy over that event, right, But I don't

1806
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 3: think they're necessarily crazy about the US playing Portugal and

1807
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 3: just some regular game, whereas in the NFL there is

1808
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 3: amazing interest for every game.

1809
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 6: Right and especially over there where you bring out not

1810
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 6: just Patriot fans, but there were all kinds of fans there,

1811
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. It's not just an event

1812
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 6: for one fan group.

1813
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 3: Right now, you're telling them all one team is yours, right,

1814
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 3: and I don't think again, I well, I'm interested in

1815
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 3: the other side because it's not a guys obviously.

1816
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 1: No more, it's not a full thing study. But no,

1817
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 1: it's not Jacksonville plays two games a year in London

1818
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 1: now or something like that. This year, have they gained

1819
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 1: in UK? I'm talking about have they gained you know,

1820
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 1: hardcore fans.

1821
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 3: I don't have that answer. I just still think that

1822
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,560
Speaker 3: the London games are very popular because there's two or

1823
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 3: three of them. There's you know, the Mexico City game

1824
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 3: was very popular they had one. You know, I just

1825
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 3: I think if you had sixteen games a year in Frankfurt,

1826
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:21,599
Speaker 3: I don't think they would be as popular as those

1827
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 3: two games back to back were with Kansas City and

1828
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 3: New England.

1829
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 1: Well you'd have eight. But anyway, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, no,

1830
01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean there's a lot of fans there,

1831
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 1: there's no doubt, and you know, they had a huge

1832
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,600
Speaker 1: waiting list, But like Paul said, you can't it's not

1833
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:35,520
Speaker 1: apples static.

1834
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 3: And it's very anecdotal. I don't know. Like that's why

1835
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 3: I was kind of curious to see what someone who's

1836
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:44,559
Speaker 3: actually in Europe wanted to to offer a rebuttal.

1837
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 1: Kyle and Kembroke just wanted to wish you all happy

1838
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving and thank you for putting on such an amazing show,

1839
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:52,720
Speaker 1: even in this horrible football season. Two questions, what's your

1840
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 1: favorite Thanksgiving side dish? And what's your favorite Thanksgiving football memory?

1841
01:20:59,280 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 3: Oh?

1842
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 6: Boy, I mean there's a lot of side dishes I like,

1843
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:04,519
Speaker 6: But part of me feels like it's really just the

1844
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 6: all of it coming together with a little turkey, a

1845
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:09,959
Speaker 6: little stuffing, a little mashed potatoes, and a little cranberry

1846
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:10,920
Speaker 6: and a little gravy.

1847
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 3: On top, and just that bite. That to me is

1848
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:13,879
Speaker 3: the perfection.

1849
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 1: I mean you like the gobbler, just the sandwich that

1850
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 1: they will sure, yeah, I like that, but I mean

1851
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 1: I just the ideal thing is getting that perfect bite.

1852
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 6: It's not like oh, great mashed potatoes, like oh great stuffing.

1853
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 6: It's it's all of it, right, see, I like it

1854
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 6: individual I don't like them.

1855
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 3: They just have a little really you like my sisters

1856
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 3: like that.

1857
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 4: You don't want any food to touch on her plate

1858
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:35,720
Speaker 4: and everything's vv up even more with Fred.

1859
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 3: Thanksgiving is not my in terms of the food. Is

1860
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 3: not my home. I would say stuffing probably, But I

1861
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 3: like this if I don't really like that, Thanksgiving for

1862
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:45,520
Speaker 3: me is can't wait till Christmas.

1863
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 1: If it's made the way my wife makes it, or

1864
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 1: Ruth Chris sweet potato pie is my favorite. Marshmallow and

1865
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 1: brown sugar.

1866
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 3: Someone talks about that today. Was it Mac?

1867
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:56,720
Speaker 8: What is it?

1868
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 3: Lawrence Guy?

1869
01:21:57,479 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 6: I think Larry Guy.

1870
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:00,000
Speaker 3: Larry Guy. The marshmallow.

1871
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 1: Oh you make it right, It's like dessert. It's so good.

1872
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 1: But I do like a good stuffing. I don't like

1873
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 1: the stuffing that's dry. You ever have like the dry

1874
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 1: stuffing where you can still see them, the crews, the bird.

1875
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 1: I like it when it's moist and all mushy together,

1876
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 1: like you could make a snowball from the inside of

1877
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 1: the Like it's sticky, it sticks to your ribs. I

1878
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 1: like that kind of stuffing. Uh, memory gravy, I think.

1879
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 3: I don't know one memory.

1880
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 6: I just I used to love going to the high

1881
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 6: school football game onto, you know, Holliston Westwood ten am

1882
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 6: Thursday morning. You know, you get out, everybody, like the

1883
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 6: cars are lying in the street. I mean, all the

1884
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 6: alumni come back.

1885
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 1: Now, Paul, it's the night before Thanksgiving. Paul still goes

1886
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 1: to the bar. Oh yeah, see the high schools.

1887
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:50,639
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I haven't done that in years either.

1888
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:53,760
Speaker 6: But that was fun, especially right out of and that

1889
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 6: was a lot of fun right out of college when

1890
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 6: you come back and everybody's like, but you know what.

1891
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 3: Like when you do that, like you know, seven eight,

1892
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 3: nine years, like, you know, okay, this is the last

1893
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 3: year we're coming to the pub, right right, Well we've

1894
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 3: aged out. Yeah, we got to go do our own

1895
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:11,840
Speaker 3: things somewhere else.

1896
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 6: But then you start to get the mix of like,

1897
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 6: you know, people who got out of the town and

1898
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 6: are coming back home. But then you also have people

1899
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 6: who didn't leave town who are now like the townies.

1900
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 3: So it's just like we're here every Thursday.

1901
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then there's a fight. It's a fight from

1902
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 1: a county bad blood, Yeah, somebody.

1903
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:31,639
Speaker 3: But my senior, my last ever football game was absolutely

1904
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:34,640
Speaker 3: the Thanksgiving to memory, you get that dub. Yeah. We

1905
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 3: won thirty one nothing and it snowed that day. We

1906
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 3: played really well. It was to the point where all

1907
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 3: the seniors are basically out of the game at halftime.

1908
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 6: It doesn't exist anymore now. I mean, it's just the

1909
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 6: number of games I'm hearing about that are going to

1910
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 6: be played tomorrow that have no impact. Or there's teams

1911
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 6: that are getting ready to play in the state championship

1912
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 6: next week, so they're not even going to play their guys.

1913
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:57,560
Speaker 3: The vast majority of the games, though, if you have

1914
01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 3: a traditional rivalry, it's still means something. It's still big,

1915
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 3: you know, even for the teams that aren't good, you know,

1916
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 3: like Malden and Medford really haven't been very good in

1917
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 3: the GBL. They've played for one hundred and twenty years.

1918
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 3: It's still important to Malden and Medford, right, you know,

1919
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 3: Salem Beverly this year is going to be different. One

1920
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 3: hundred I think it's the one hundred and twenty fifth game.

1921
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 3: But Salem's going to the super Bowl. They're playing on

1922
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:20,600
Speaker 3: Wednesday here, so I don't know if that's going to be.

1923
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 3: He's playing Franklin at Fenway Park. They played last time,

1924
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 3: thirty five nothing a big k p oh my kid

1925
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 3: went there. They cheap so you saw. There's no more

1926
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,599
Speaker 3: that massthewvests past the thing. There's no more like Native

1927
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 3: American mascots. And I'm wondering if King Philip is going

1928
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,720
Speaker 3: to get acts. They're called they're literally called King Philip.

1929
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 1: From King whatever his name was.

1930
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, different things.

1931
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

1932
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's still a lot. I think it's still the

1933
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 3: Dartmouth Indians, Yeah, and Saga Sa Cham's. I think there's

1934
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 3: still a lot of them that still have Native American mascots,

1935
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 3: which I don't really understand why that is such a

1936
01:24:58,160 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 3: big thing, but there's a lot.

1937
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 6: I think if it's respectful, right, you know, like it's

1938
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,680
Speaker 6: not what Yeah, well, the thing is crazy to me

1939
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:07,760
Speaker 6: about King Philip not to put my little nerdy history

1940
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:10,480
Speaker 6: ot on. But like he literally like led a rebellion

1941
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 6: against all the settlers and like massacred people across the

1942
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 6: Metro West, and like we have a high school named

1943
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 6: after him, Like you know, I mean it's a complicated situation.

1944
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 1: But Battle of Worcester was big, well Medfield.

1945
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 6: Him and his guys, they went through Medfield and clean

1946
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 6: that place out, you know, back in the seventeen hundreds.

1947
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 3: It's just just weird now to have a high school,

1948
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 3: odd little peak into Hackamock League history right there from

1949
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 3: King Philip. Yeah, he saw what was coming. He was like, no,

1950
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 3: we better, we.

1951
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 1: Better find So what do we make of Evan not

1952
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:38,680
Speaker 1: being back yet?

1953
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 3: I think he's walking. They're making them trudge from the

1954
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 3: My guesses they didn't get out there when they was

1955
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 3: supposed to write.

1956
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:46,840
Speaker 15: I don't think he's like, I don't know, we got picked,

1957
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 15: but we got a hurry pill and then either Alex

1958
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 15: didn't do well or there's no way she was coming

1959
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 15: in the day before Thanksgiving.

1960
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 3: Yeah that's I thought I saw her today.

1961
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 6: No, she's she's just doing my tru mentally, she's might

1962
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:02,720
Speaker 6: cause Mike cleats hell. Okay, so she's doing a lot

1963
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 6: of stuff. We'll get her picks from her. But yeah,

1964
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 6: she's she's in the weeds right now. Okay, all right, well, yeah,

1965
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:09,519
Speaker 6: because I saw her this morning, she's here. I'll give

1966
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 6: Evan a few more minutes to get here. Let's see.

1967
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:17,760
Speaker 1: Matt writes in Penay Sewell is one of the first

1968
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 1: round that has worked out rat one. Yes, I would

1969
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 1: be on board with Joe all but we have to

1970
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 1: make moves during the free agency. Paul, if we get

1971
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:28,600
Speaker 1: Ty Higgins, T Higgins, would you then be okay with

1972
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 1: tackle with the first pick? So if you shore up

1973
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 1: the off the.

1974
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 3: Wide, I would still rather trade down.

1975
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:36,519
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think T Higgins. He's good.

1976
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 3: Oh No, I love tre I love t Higgins, But

1977
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:43,719
Speaker 3: I would still rather get a player at that spot.

1978
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:45,559
Speaker 3: If I'm going to take a player in the top five,

1979
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:48,799
Speaker 3: I want more of an impact player. You know, obviously

1980
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:51,599
Speaker 3: Penny Sewell has been a really good player for the Lions.

1981
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 3: That's a hit no matter where you picked him, that's

1982
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 3: a that's a hit.

1983
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 1: And even if just so you know, Evan, we haven't

1984
01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 1: been talking draft the whole time you were gone.

1985
01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 3: We couldn't we couldn't do it with hearing Paul say

1986
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:05,600
Speaker 3: the words trade down is making me quick? Rather no

1987
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 3: no no no no no no no no stop, rather

1988
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:11,040
Speaker 3: than take a tackle, Rather than take a tack, I

1989
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:14,639
Speaker 3: don't want to take a tackle. So Trent Williams has

1990
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:19,679
Speaker 3: no impact on his team, all right, heaven it's easy,

1991
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:21,120
Speaker 3: not as much of an impact.

1992
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:35,599
Speaker 1: All right, Evan, what do we got? All right?

1993
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 5: Well, that was an adventure, not that anybody cares. You guys,

1994
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 5: start sending the search party because I was in the elements.

1995
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 5: So the Patriots practicing the bubble, So thank you the

1996
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:52,599
Speaker 5: Socios dot com field hoss. I don't want to insult

1997
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 5: the people at Socios. They had perfect attendance in the

1998
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 5: bubble there today, and uh, you know, it took so

1999
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 5: long because you have to go around, you know, you

2000
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:03,719
Speaker 5: have to get in your car, you have to drive around.

2001
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:08,240
Speaker 5: So it was a little bit of an adventure to

2002
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 5: to get there and back, which is what took so long.

2003
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 5: But yeah, perfect attendance. Stretch only, so he didn't really

2004
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:18,799
Speaker 5: see anything to glean out of the quarterback.

2005
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:23,639
Speaker 3: He looks good. Stretch only, stretch only.

2006
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 5: I still feel you know, coming off of two practices now,

2007
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:32,639
Speaker 5: I still feel like the wind is blowing towards mac

2008
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:38,599
Speaker 5: Jones starting. I don't know if it's concrete set in stone,

2009
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 5: and they could obviously change their minds at any time,

2010
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:46,479
Speaker 5: but it still feels like the illusion that they're giving

2011
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 5: is that he's going to be the one that's at

2012
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 5: least going to start this game.

2013
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 1: Okay, but shortly probably, That's what I say.

2014
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, how about one of the possibility of he's planning

2015
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:01,080
Speaker 3: on playing more than one quarterback by design?

2016
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 1: Possible?

2017
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 3: I think that's that's definitely possible. They did that. I

2018
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 3: think the Chicago thing was supposed to be like the

2019
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:10,480
Speaker 3: claimed in the Chicago.

2020
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, is there any chance that while all you guys

2021
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 1: were inside the bubble, Will Greer was warming up outside

2022
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 1: and getting ready for the game.

2023
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:19,720
Speaker 5: No, we saw him, But we also we've seen Trent

2024
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:22,959
Speaker 5: Brown the last couple of days. He has been at practice,

2025
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 5: moving maybe a little bit better. I don't know that

2026
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:29,360
Speaker 5: one is really fascinating to me. Not as much as

2027
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 5: the quarterbacks obviously, but is this a guy that you

2028
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:35,639
Speaker 5: really want to play like after what he sounds off

2029
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 5: and like just I don't know, it's just a lot

2030
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 5: I have a question.

2031
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 1: Though they were in the bubble. There's no lightning today,

2032
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 1: so usually they don't go in the bubble unless it's like,

2033
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:45,920
Speaker 1: you can't practice in this weather.

2034
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:46,920
Speaker 3: It was pretty nasty.

2035
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 1: Oh wasn't that bad.

2036
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:51,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's pretty It was raining sideways, you know,

2037
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 3: it's like pretty windy.

2038
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:57,479
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, yeah it was. It was kind of okay.

2039
01:29:58,160 --> 01:29:59,760
Speaker 3: You got to be pretty confident that it's not going

2040
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:00,160
Speaker 3: to be like.

2041
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:03,559
Speaker 1: I was just doing conspiracy theory and it's like, okay,

2042
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:06,000
Speaker 1: we're trying to get Zappy ready. He's not gonna be

2043
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:07,680
Speaker 1: able to get ready in this weather. So let's go

2044
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 1: inside and and you know, give him a puncher's chance.

2045
01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:12,559
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2046
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:14,720
Speaker 5: Well, the best part is is when they practice, this

2047
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:17,680
Speaker 5: is very inside baseball, but they make us like turn

2048
01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:21,280
Speaker 5: our backs to the to the glass.

2049
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:22,760
Speaker 8: Mirror.

2050
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:26,400
Speaker 5: So so Rundy is standing with me and we're chatting

2051
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:30,320
Speaker 5: and he's got a camera and the camera is pointing

2052
01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 5: in the wrong direction but obviously had the cap on

2053
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 5: and like it wasn't on right, and Gerd Meho just goes, oh,

2054
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:40,680
Speaker 5: you're taking you're taking pictures of the people coming out

2055
01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:43,599
Speaker 5: of the bathroom, like joking with them, and like obviously

2056
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 5: the camera is not on and I'm just standing there.

2057
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:48,679
Speaker 3: I'm like, we should not we should have stood someplace else,

2058
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 3: up against the wall. Oh my god.

2059
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 11: Yeah, turn around.

2060
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:55,680
Speaker 1: The next thing, you know, they'll have like sacks over

2061
01:30:55,760 --> 01:31:00,280
Speaker 1: your head, you know. Okay, Saxon, Saxon, Aaron over.

2062
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:04,759
Speaker 3: Okay, that's our time, that's our time line of hostages.

2063
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:07,479
Speaker 5: But it's funny because like then they walk us out right,

2064
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:10,679
Speaker 5: and it's it's a much longer walk to the door

2065
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:14,040
Speaker 5: than it is outside where the stairs are looking.

2066
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 1: Then you're just like, oh my god, the curtain came

2067
01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:22,040
Speaker 1: while the forty Yeah, come.

2068
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:25,840
Speaker 3: Uch, practice, you know, try to stop it, Trent Williams,

2069
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:28,679
Speaker 3: try to stop it. Did you see their offense without

2070
01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:32,519
Speaker 3: Trent Williams? Terrible? Right, But quarterbacks gonna win MVP.

2071
01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:36,920
Speaker 1: It's pretty significant, all right, Paul, what happened? We gotta hurry.

2072
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 1: What happened last night?

2073
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:45,719
Speaker 3: Yeah? It was Alex and Evan ten and four, Mike,

2074
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:48,760
Speaker 3: Paul and Fred nine and five. So we all were

2075
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:52,599
Speaker 3: okay last week with a spread not quite as good

2076
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:57,400
Speaker 3: for anybody. Alex and Evan again led six seven and one,

2077
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:03,599
Speaker 3: Paul and Fred five eight and one. Mike, what's going

2078
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:05,479
Speaker 3: on for nine and one. I don't know what you're

2079
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:08,559
Speaker 3: doing with the spread. I lost my field overall. Alex

2080
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 3: Mantanzar lead at one O, six and fifty eight, followed

2081
01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:14,880
Speaker 3: by Me at one O one and sixty three, Evan

2082
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:18,519
Speaker 3: ninety nine and sixty five, Fred ninety seven and sixty six,

2083
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:23,719
Speaker 3: Mike ninety six and sixty eight with the spread Paul

2084
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:29,000
Speaker 3: eighty seventy six and eight another push last week, followed

2085
01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 3: by Alex seventy eight, seventy eight and eight, Fred seventy seven,

2086
01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 3: seventy nine and eight, Evan seventy three, eighty three and eight,

2087
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:43,679
Speaker 3: and Mike sixty eight, eighty eight and eight.

2088
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:47,360
Speaker 1: Okay, it goes for kids, not in l for love,

2089
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:53,280
Speaker 1: Mike sor right. All right, So we got a complicated schedule,

2090
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:58,280
Speaker 1: so let's get right to it today, I mean tomorrow.

2091
01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. At twelve thirty p. Twelve thirty pm o'clock start.

2092
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:05,800
Speaker 3: As I love, I Love the twelve thirty.

2093
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:09,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nice. Four and six packers are at the

2094
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:11,360
Speaker 1: eight and two Lions.

2095
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:18,799
Speaker 3: Detroit by seven and a half Detroit. I feel the excitement.

2096
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:21,400
Speaker 6: I'm gonna take Detroit, but I'm gonna take those points

2097
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:23,280
Speaker 6: from Green Bay because I'm terrible at picking with.

2098
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:26,599
Speaker 1: The spreads really are and that really it's as I mean,

2099
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:28,600
Speaker 1: the fact that you just made that pick. I'm just like,

2100
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:30,599
Speaker 1: that's why he's got the record.

2101
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:31,800
Speaker 3: He has got to stick with it.

2102
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:34,439
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Troit.

2103
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:37,320
Speaker 3: Do we have Alex's picks or am I just going

2104
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:39,040
Speaker 3: I don't not just go We'll get them from it.

2105
01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:41,720
Speaker 3: I should probably check sometimes she sends them to me

2106
01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:42,360
Speaker 3: on the slack.

2107
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:46,519
Speaker 5: So I have the Lions in this game. I was

2108
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 5: pretty impressed by them last week. Just they could have

2109
01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 5: easily lost that. That could have been a dud and

2110
01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 5: they didn't come back in the fourth quarter. But I

2111
01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:58,760
Speaker 5: like the Packers to cover this spread. Divisional game Island game.

2112
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:00,599
Speaker 3: I think the Packers keep it closed.

2113
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:07,200
Speaker 1: Rock Party or Jordan Love, Rock Pretty Brock, Jordan Love

2114
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:08,000
Speaker 1: or Matt Jones.

2115
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:11,800
Speaker 3: Who Mac Jones really? I think?

2116
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:13,880
Speaker 6: So wow, I might go to him.

2117
01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:16,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jordan Love's starting to come on a little bit

2118
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 1: and I need to see more Jordan Love.

2119
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's very sporadic. I mean, I'm just going off

2120
01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:21,680
Speaker 6: what we watched in Green Bayan.

2121
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:24,559
Speaker 3: Jordan Love, he's played ten games. Yeah, you know Mac

2122
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:28,719
Speaker 3: Jones played three years, Right, I will take Detroit both ways.

2123
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 3: I think that they bounced back because even though they

2124
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:33,080
Speaker 3: won the game, it's kind of like they lost, like

2125
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 3: they played so bad that I think they got to

2126
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:35,680
Speaker 3: bounce back.

2127
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:39,560
Speaker 1: By the time the four thirty games starts. Are we

2128
01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:44,000
Speaker 1: going to be sick of hearing about John Madden? Oh? No, no, Rip,

2129
01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:49,200
Speaker 1: I know, but they're dedicating like the game to John Madden, aren't.

2130
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 8: Oh?

2131
01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 1: Really? Yeah?

2132
01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 6: I thought it was Jimmy Jones. Johnson was going into

2133
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:52,799
Speaker 6: the ring.

2134
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:57,320
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. I'm talking about the broadcast, Jimmy broadcast.

2135
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:00,280
Speaker 3: Did you take Detroit? Did you ever make a for this?

2136
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? I told you you knew the kickout right down? Yeah,

2137
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:09,800
Speaker 1: four thirty on CBS, uh, four and seven Commanders at

2138
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:11,560
Speaker 1: the seven to three Cowboys.

2139
01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:13,519
Speaker 3: Cowboys by twelve and a half.

2140
01:35:13,640 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a big Dallas is what like.

2141
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:17,799
Speaker 6: Three weeks in a row, they've had like double digit spreads.

2142
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 1: I feel like, and so.

2143
01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:23,920
Speaker 3: Usually what I'm gonna ta. I know, you always accused

2144
01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:26,880
Speaker 3: me of holding out information own somebody. They covered both

2145
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 3: of those previous I know.

2146
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 6: And I took it last week, but somehow I still

2147
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:32,720
Speaker 6: came out on the bottom. I'm gonna take Dallas and

2148
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:33,759
Speaker 6: I'm gonna lay those points.

2149
01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:38,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Dallas both ways. The Commanders, I they stink.

2150
01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:41,519
Speaker 3: That's it. That's all I got. That's tweet. I will

2151
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:43,799
Speaker 3: take Dallas to win, but I will take the points.

2152
01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:46,439
Speaker 3: I don't think Washington flat out stinks like they did

2153
01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:48,920
Speaker 3: last week. I think they clean it up a little bit.

2154
01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:52,640
Speaker 3: Twelve and a half is a lot Washington Thanksgiving. I

2155
01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 3: think they'll play a better game and keep it reasonably close.

2156
01:35:55,360 --> 01:35:58,599
Speaker 1: Paul great minds. Think of like Cowboys win, but they

2157
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:03,240
Speaker 1: do not cover. So I'll take the hook. NBC eight,

2158
01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:07,240
Speaker 1: twenty pm, the seven and three forty nine Ers, led

2159
01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:12,120
Speaker 1: by Brock Purty are at the six and four Seahawks.

2160
01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:15,760
Speaker 3: Niners by seven. Mike again on the road, in the

2161
01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:19,960
Speaker 3: interest of not holding out information the whole weirdness of

2162
01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:24,760
Speaker 3: the NFC West, the Seahawks own the Niners. I was

2163
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 3: gonna say that. I thought that's what it was, but

2164
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:28,800
Speaker 3: I wasn't a hunger. I appreciate that information. Shams owned

2165
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:31,680
Speaker 3: the Seahawks, the Seahawks own the Niners, the Niners own

2166
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:34,519
Speaker 3: the Rams, and everybody owned. Everybody owns the Cardinals. It's

2167
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:35,759
Speaker 3: just a it's a circle.

2168
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:35,960
Speaker 1: Thing.

2169
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 6: I'm gonna take San Francisco, but I'm gonna you know

2170
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:42,400
Speaker 6: what I mean, I'm gonna take the points though based

2171
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:44,200
Speaker 6: on Paul's information, I think it might be close.

2172
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:48,080
Speaker 3: But don't listen to me. We probably shouldn't. No, you

2173
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:50,680
Speaker 3: shouldn't it. I'm bad. I'm gonna take the forty nine

2174
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:55,160
Speaker 3: ers both ways. Yes, I am going to take San Francisco,

2175
01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:57,920
Speaker 3: but I will take the point. Do you have any

2176
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:01,680
Speaker 3: injury information on Gino Smith? Because I don't feel great

2177
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:04,439
Speaker 3: about taking a point. He did finish that game, he did,

2178
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:09,680
Speaker 3: he did, no information. I'm gonna take the points. I'm

2179
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:15,720
Speaker 3: going to go with the whole Seattle own. San Francisco nonsense.

2180
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:18,559
Speaker 1: You would think that they'd give you stuff, right.

2181
01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:22,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so limited but looked good in practice, NFL limited

2182
01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:28,960
Speaker 3: but looked good, just like just like wil Greer good beard, strong,

2183
01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:32,719
Speaker 3: strong beard, great good tattoo game, So Fred does.

2184
01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:37,719
Speaker 1: I am going to go with the Seahawks to cover

2185
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:41,240
Speaker 1: forty nine ers win. So I'm going to give Pete Carroll.

2186
01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:43,880
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll Caro, one of the best coaches in the game,

2187
01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:48,280
Speaker 1: just keeps re read you know, inventing that team.

2188
01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:50,840
Speaker 3: Really good Cheers Your way to go five hundred really

2189
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:53,320
Speaker 3: cheers hired on this. There'll be sifter this.

2190
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:55,080
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to give credit to anyone.

2191
01:37:58,240 --> 01:37:58,680
Speaker 6: What do you mean?

2192
01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:01,559
Speaker 3: Rock party? He under forty years all to night, bash

2193
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:02,280
Speaker 3: him all the time.

2194
01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:07,320
Speaker 1: Friday, the prime video game that we talked about earlier

2195
01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:11,840
Speaker 1: at three pm Eastern, three pm Eastern, seven and three

2196
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:14,720
Speaker 1: Dolphins at the four and six Jets.

2197
01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:20,200
Speaker 3: Miami by ten ten. Wow, Tim Boyle, boy I am

2198
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:20,760
Speaker 3: a little bit.

2199
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:24,680
Speaker 6: Tempted to take the points. I definitely think Miami is

2200
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:27,400
Speaker 6: gonna win, but I think Tim Boyle.

2201
01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:30,600
Speaker 1: Nih Yeah, but the points, Tim Boyle shouldn't be the

2202
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:32,640
Speaker 1: factor of what you think is going to happen in

2203
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:34,519
Speaker 1: this game, because he's at least as good as the guy.

2204
01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:35,080
Speaker 3: That's true.

2205
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:36,120
Speaker 1: He's replaced, that's true.

2206
01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:36,720
Speaker 3: I think it was.

2207
01:38:37,040 --> 01:38:37,920
Speaker 1: No, he's not.

2208
01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:42,720
Speaker 3: They do this guy was horrifically bad in college, Tim Boyle, Yes,

2209
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 3: get like three different places. I have no idea. Do

2210
01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:48,960
Speaker 3: you know he never threw more touchdowns than interceptions? In college?

2211
01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:49,160
Speaker 1: Oh?

2212
01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:49,680
Speaker 3: Is that right?

2213
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:50,360
Speaker 1: Jeez?

2214
01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:52,080
Speaker 6: They're just given starting jobs away these days.

2215
01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:56,720
Speaker 3: About brock Purty, I mean, come on, exactly, Uh in

2216
01:38:56,840 --> 01:38:58,920
Speaker 3: the interest do you pick? I did Miami and all

2217
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:00,799
Speaker 3: of the points of giving.

2218
01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:03,679
Speaker 5: A credit to somebody that's over forty. Vic Fangio against

2219
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 5: Tim Boyle is a one sided mismatch. I'm taking the

2220
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:07,120
Speaker 5: Dolphins both ways.

2221
01:39:07,200 --> 01:39:08,200
Speaker 3: Yes I am as well.

2222
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:11,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I will too, all right. Sunday at

2223
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:15,599
Speaker 1: one on Fox, the five and five Saints are at

2224
01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:17,720
Speaker 1: the four and six Falcons.

2225
01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:24,040
Speaker 3: Atlanta by one. It's a handful of like one point

2226
01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:26,040
Speaker 3: spreads this week. I don't like, I don't like. I

2227
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:26,879
Speaker 3: don't like those.

2228
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:29,679
Speaker 6: Basically A pick them, I'm gonna take. I'll take Atlanta

2229
01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:30,679
Speaker 6: at home a lay a point.

2230
01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:35,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like did you already say Desmond Riddle back? Yes, Yeah,

2231
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:36,479
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take.

2232
01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:39,400
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take the Saints in this game because I

2233
01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:41,120
Speaker 5: feel like when it comes to these types of games

2234
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:43,040
Speaker 5: where I don't feel good about either team, the Saints

2235
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:44,920
Speaker 5: find ways to win those types of games.

2236
01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:49,040
Speaker 3: Taking the Saint Yeah, I'm gonna go with my boy

2237
01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:52,640
Speaker 3: Bjon Robinson. If he gets the ball, they're gonna let

2238
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:54,599
Speaker 3: me give them him the ball a little bit more

2239
01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:56,639
Speaker 3: this week. I'll take it. I'll take Atlanta.

2240
01:39:57,520 --> 01:39:59,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Saints to win this game.

2241
01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:03,880
Speaker 3: I think we picked that game, right, Yeah, like no

2242
01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:07,920
Speaker 3: New Orleans Atlanta one point spread two pick New Orleans

2243
01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:09,720
Speaker 3: two picked Atlanta. I think we got that right.

2244
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:15,280
Speaker 1: One o'clock CBS six and four. Steelers start at these

2245
01:40:15,439 --> 01:40:19,000
Speaker 1: five and five Burrow less Bengals Pittsburgh by one.

2246
01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:23,519
Speaker 3: No Burrow, no Borough, no Burrough no Burrow. Can he

2247
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:23,760
Speaker 3: pick it?

2248
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:25,240
Speaker 6: I don't want to see poor Evan have to wait

2249
01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 6: until the Kenny Pickett mentions anymore.

2250
01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:27,479
Speaker 3: It's just.

2251
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:32,680
Speaker 6: Well, in honor of Tamarrow, I'm gonna take Pittsburgh and

2252
01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:37,479
Speaker 6: all later point Seattle Sinat reeling from the loss of

2253
01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:38,519
Speaker 6: their quarter back.

2254
01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:41,799
Speaker 3: And Pittsburgh probably reveling in the loss of their offensive quarterat.

2255
01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:44,519
Speaker 3: There you go, that's true. I didn't think of that.

2256
01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:47,479
Speaker 5: This is like, you know, because they could rally around

2257
01:40:47,560 --> 01:40:49,879
Speaker 5: Jake Browning, but they also could rally around the offensive

2258
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:50,640
Speaker 5: coordinator thing.

2259
01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:52,240
Speaker 3: So it's which rally do you want.

2260
01:40:52,120 --> 01:40:52,439
Speaker 12: To go to?

2261
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:54,439
Speaker 3: They might fold our quarterbacks out. We're out of it.

2262
01:40:54,520 --> 01:40:57,880
Speaker 3: We just need a good pick now, tank, I'm gonna go.

2263
01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:01,599
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with Pittsburgh, but reluctantly, I don't feel

2264
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:04,800
Speaker 5: good about it, and I'm gonna take uh Yeah, I'm

2265
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:05,760
Speaker 5: gonna go Pittsburgh both.

2266
01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:08,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna take Pittsburgh too. I feel like Evan,

2267
01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:11,040
Speaker 3: I don't feel great about it. This is strictly a

2268
01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:12,800
Speaker 3: roll of the dice that they get a little bump

2269
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:17,559
Speaker 3: and losing a coordinator who evidently was really beyond bad Canada.

2270
01:41:17,880 --> 01:41:20,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if Bengals weren't such a terrible organization,

2271
01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:22,519
Speaker 1: I'd be picking them. But I'm gonna go with the

2272
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 1: Steelers because I think they are gonna rally a little

2273
01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:25,640
Speaker 1: bit more.

2274
01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:29,280
Speaker 6: Chill Burl, Fred you can just know, I like, you

2275
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:31,120
Speaker 6: don't have no reason to like them anymore. He's out,

2276
01:41:31,640 --> 01:41:32,240
Speaker 6: just trash them all.

2277
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:36,760
Speaker 1: Good point, good point, one o'clock CBS. This is a

2278
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:38,920
Speaker 1: good game. I know Paul doesn't like division games, but

2279
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:41,840
Speaker 1: these seven and three Jaguars are at these six and

2280
01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:42,719
Speaker 1: four Texans.

2281
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:47,560
Speaker 3: Uh, Jacksonville by one and a half. This is a

2282
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:49,920
Speaker 3: good game with two up and coming teams. I'm gonna

2283
01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:52,120
Speaker 3: go with would you say by one and a half? Yeah, Jacksonville.

2284
01:41:52,439 --> 01:41:54,960
Speaker 6: I'm gonna take Jacksonville. I just I think they have

2285
01:41:55,160 --> 01:41:57,840
Speaker 6: the better quarterback right now. But of course impressed with

2286
01:41:57,880 --> 01:41:59,640
Speaker 6: what Houston's been doing. But I'll take Jacksonville to do

2287
01:41:59,800 --> 01:42:02,519
Speaker 6: they maybe, you know, CJ.

2288
01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:03,040
Speaker 3: Stroud.

2289
01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:06,760
Speaker 5: I don't know about that, but I don't know where

2290
01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:09,120
Speaker 5: I'm at. I think it's too early to crown the Stroud.

2291
01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:10,559
Speaker 3: I agree you mean he's not the MVP.

2292
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:13,240
Speaker 5: He's not the MVP, but neither his Brookie of the Year,

2293
01:42:13,880 --> 01:42:16,679
Speaker 5: Rookie of the Year. Definitely Rookie of the Year front

2294
01:42:16,720 --> 01:42:18,880
Speaker 5: runner for sure. I'm gonna go to the Jags the

2295
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:21,479
Speaker 5: same reason with as Deuce. I just think that they're

2296
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:24,320
Speaker 5: more ready, you know, for these types of games, been

2297
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:27,080
Speaker 5: more battle tested, So I can take Jacksonville.

2298
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:34,439
Speaker 3: Heavy is the crown. Yeah, I'm gonna roll the dice.

2299
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:36,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the home team. I'm gonna take Houston.

2300
01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:43,920
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna go with Trevor ride that bandwagon, Trevor Jackson.

2301
01:42:44,320 --> 01:42:48,840
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, gets a ton Trevor Jackson. Who am I thinking?

2302
01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:52,360
Speaker 3: First names throw me off? Usually I can decide for you.

2303
01:42:52,479 --> 01:42:54,439
Speaker 3: But he does have two first names.

2304
01:42:56,720 --> 01:43:00,400
Speaker 1: Yes, so Jaguars and they cover at one and a half,

2305
01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:05,120
Speaker 1: by the way, one o'clock, CBS four and six, Buccaneers

2306
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:08,640
Speaker 1: at the five and five Colts, Colts by two and

2307
01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:12,800
Speaker 1: a half. Really jeez, I get I give Quoltes a

2308
01:43:12,840 --> 01:43:14,320
Speaker 1: lot of credit for fighting this year.

2309
01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:17,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they just they cut check just like that.

2310
01:43:18,160 --> 01:43:20,360
Speaker 3: He's so all right? How did you go from like

2311
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:21,880
Speaker 3: one of the best guys in the league two years ago?

2312
01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:24,560
Speaker 3: Now he can we can we waste thirty seconds on this?

2313
01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:30,320
Speaker 3: He is okay, I'm hurry ding ding. How can you

2314
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:33,960
Speaker 3: possibly still, as a Patriots fan be advocating adding people?

2315
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:40,040
Speaker 3: Right as soon as this went down, someone in my like,

2316
01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:43,639
Speaker 3: you know, commenting on my notes like sign Shack Leonard

2317
01:43:43,760 --> 01:43:48,800
Speaker 3: now like all caps. I was like, really, like, forget

2318
01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:51,360
Speaker 3: about what you think of Shack Leonard, what he used

2319
01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:53,400
Speaker 3: as a player anymore. Like, let's just say for arguments

2320
01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:56,639
Speaker 3: that he's still really good, right, Why would you want

2321
01:43:56,720 --> 01:43:57,760
Speaker 3: to add that right now?

2322
01:43:57,960 --> 01:43:59,519
Speaker 1: You're not doing anything?

2323
01:43:59,560 --> 01:44:01,000
Speaker 6: And in the words of Evan, who was like, I

2324
01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:03,320
Speaker 6: mean they got Jolie to b and Bentley, I guess

2325
01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:06,439
Speaker 6: they're okay, and inside we're trying to suck like what

2326
01:44:06,520 --> 01:44:07,280
Speaker 6: their needs are gonna be?

2327
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:09,760
Speaker 3: Like, I guess he hasn't started for the I mean

2328
01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:11,479
Speaker 3: he's had a lot of injuries and stuff, but he

2329
01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:13,960
Speaker 3: hasn't really even been a regular players. He went from

2330
01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:17,160
Speaker 3: Darius to Shack. It all went down hill, right. I

2331
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:19,280
Speaker 3: was thinking about that. It's like you changed your name

2332
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:21,439
Speaker 3: and now you stay. And I know no one's gonna

2333
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:24,200
Speaker 3: no one's gonna claim them with their contract, just the

2334
01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:27,439
Speaker 3: numbers that you still. Ye, now that contract is gonna

2335
01:44:27,479 --> 01:44:27,840
Speaker 3: go away.

2336
01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:30,760
Speaker 1: But remember when you were a kid, you go to

2337
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:33,080
Speaker 1: the story, Can I guess something? He got enough toys?

2338
01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:35,639
Speaker 1: That's like you should be telling Patriots fans.

2339
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:39,080
Speaker 3: You got enough problems? What toys do? We have moved

2340
01:44:39,120 --> 01:44:41,920
Speaker 3: through the season moment and just right, we got ninety

2341
01:44:41,960 --> 01:44:43,840
Speaker 3: nine problems, But the middle of the linebacker ain't one.

2342
01:44:44,120 --> 01:44:49,120
Speaker 6: Maybe Colts by two and a half, that's a tough one.

2343
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:51,800
Speaker 6: And I'm not gonna give them a bump for losing

2344
01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:56,759
Speaker 6: Shack Darius Leonard. I'm gonna get Tampa, Tampa up, upset whatever.

2345
01:44:58,360 --> 01:45:00,240
Speaker 5: I'm also taking the Bucks in this game. I think

2346
01:45:00,280 --> 01:45:02,599
Speaker 5: the Bucks have been frisky, and I think Baker Mayfield

2347
01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:06,160
Speaker 5: has been okay, and I just don't really think Ardner minche'

2348
01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:06,559
Speaker 5: is very good.

2349
01:45:06,640 --> 01:45:09,280
Speaker 3: So I'm going Bucks. I agree about Minchew, but I'm

2350
01:45:09,280 --> 01:45:11,120
Speaker 3: gonna take the Colts. I just think they're better at

2351
01:45:11,160 --> 01:45:12,840
Speaker 3: home and they find a way to get the win

2352
01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:13,479
Speaker 3: coming off the.

2353
01:45:13,479 --> 01:45:16,000
Speaker 1: By Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Colts. They found

2354
01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:17,360
Speaker 1: their stride last week.

2355
01:45:17,320 --> 01:45:20,760
Speaker 3: And so it cracks me up that he still says

2356
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:23,160
Speaker 3: things like that. They won their Super Bowl last week.

2357
01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:23,800
Speaker 1: They got a lot of.

2358
01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:24,560
Speaker 3: Confidence out of that.

2359
01:45:24,840 --> 01:45:26,080
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with the Coats.

2360
01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:30,000
Speaker 3: Well, the worst games in the history of the league.

2361
01:45:30,200 --> 01:45:33,440
Speaker 1: Sunday at one on Fox, the one and nine Panthers

2362
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:35,759
Speaker 1: are at the three and seven Titans.

2363
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:37,240
Speaker 3: Titans by three and a half.

2364
01:45:38,479 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 6: Oh boy, no, now this is one folks. God, I mean,

2365
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 6: we're kind of rooting for Carolina here, sure are. I

2366
01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:47,840
Speaker 6: don't think they got it in them though. I'm gonna

2367
01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:51,599
Speaker 6: go Tennessee at home, and I will I'm gonna lay

2368
01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:51,960
Speaker 6: the points.

2369
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:55,800
Speaker 5: I'm gonna pick with my my heart here and I'm

2370
01:45:55,800 --> 01:45:58,160
Speaker 5: picking the upset. I'm picking the Carolina Panthers.

2371
01:45:58,200 --> 01:46:00,360
Speaker 3: Who did you pick? I picked the Tennessee t Tons.

2372
01:46:01,160 --> 01:46:04,600
Speaker 5: I am picking the Panthers. I think that the Titans,

2373
01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:07,560
Speaker 5: I think they might be be be giving up a

2374
01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:07,960
Speaker 5: little bit.

2375
01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:10,120
Speaker 3: I think they're yeah, And that's why I'm a little

2376
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:13,280
Speaker 3: like surprised, Like I think Caroline is going to be

2377
01:46:13,400 --> 01:46:15,960
Speaker 3: like a two or three win team Tennessee is right

2378
01:46:16,040 --> 01:46:18,800
Speaker 3: with you. You can't afford to have them lose games

2379
01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:22,559
Speaker 3: like this, Like that could put Tennessee ahead of the Patriots.

2380
01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:23,599
Speaker 1: You could look at it that way.

2381
01:46:24,160 --> 01:46:26,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I don't. I think it's gonna be hard

2382
01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:27,560
Speaker 3: to finish behind Carolina.

2383
01:46:27,640 --> 01:46:30,000
Speaker 6: In other words, you you have this philosophy a lot

2384
01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:31,840
Speaker 6: like even with standings like if the if a team

2385
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:33,320
Speaker 6: is just too far away, just let him go.

2386
01:46:35,840 --> 01:46:38,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, send them out to pastor. I think Carolina is

2387
01:46:38,720 --> 01:46:41,400
Speaker 3: really like terrible. That's a team that tanked, like they

2388
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:43,440
Speaker 3: got rid of a lot of players in the offseason.

2389
01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:46,479
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm with Evan. I think Caroline is gonna

2390
01:46:46,479 --> 01:46:48,960
Speaker 3: win this game. I think the Will Levis thing, you know,

2391
01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:52,160
Speaker 3: that one little bump they had. I told you when

2392
01:46:52,160 --> 01:46:53,760
Speaker 3: I watched some of the highlights, it didn't look like

2393
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:57,479
Speaker 3: it was quote sustainable. It hasn't been. He's been a disaster.

2394
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:00,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. I want the Panthers to win, but I think

2395
01:47:00,840 --> 01:47:02,280
Speaker 1: the Titans are going to win this game.

2396
01:47:02,520 --> 01:47:05,280
Speaker 3: So I'm looking at you, Mike Fraebel.

2397
01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:08,320
Speaker 1: All right, now, we skip over the Patriots crying at

2398
01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:11,960
Speaker 1: one o'clock and we go to four oh five. The

2399
01:47:12,280 --> 01:47:15,479
Speaker 1: four and six Rams are at the two and nine.

2400
01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:23,240
Speaker 3: Cardinals Cardinals by one, which Wow, somebody was a strange.

2401
01:47:22,840 --> 01:47:23,960
Speaker 6: Somebody owns somebody in this.

2402
01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:25,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Sharps know something here.

2403
01:47:26,240 --> 01:47:29,240
Speaker 3: The Rams own the Cardinals. Everybody everybody owns.

2404
01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:31,160
Speaker 1: The Sharps know something.

2405
01:47:31,439 --> 01:47:33,519
Speaker 3: The Rams, Well Kyler Murray's back, don't forget.

2406
01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:35,280
Speaker 1: Yeah that that doesn't they know that.

2407
01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:37,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, for the third for the third game they are

2408
01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:38,240
Speaker 3: going to play.

2409
01:47:38,280 --> 01:47:38,640
Speaker 1: They know it.

2410
01:47:38,720 --> 01:47:39,799
Speaker 3: They better there's Sharps.

2411
01:47:40,040 --> 01:47:41,640
Speaker 6: I'm going to take the Rams and I'll lay the

2412
01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:43,840
Speaker 6: point which one half one one.

2413
01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:48,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're getting points. Cardinals favor give me, give it

2414
01:47:48,640 --> 01:47:48,760
Speaker 3: to me.

2415
01:47:49,160 --> 01:47:52,599
Speaker 5: I'm dodn't take the Cardinals. I think the Cardinals are

2416
01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:56,840
Speaker 5: They're surprisingly better than I thought they would be, and

2417
01:47:57,439 --> 01:47:59,639
Speaker 5: maybe a team that kind of like the Lions where

2418
01:47:59,680 --> 01:48:01,840
Speaker 5: they finish the year off a little bit strong and

2419
01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:04,840
Speaker 5: are a team that people like next year with what

2420
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:05,519
Speaker 5: they're I don't know.

2421
01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:08,320
Speaker 3: They play hard, for Gannon, they're a model in tanking. Yeah,

2422
01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:10,479
Speaker 3: they play hard and they're in every game and they

2423
01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:12,320
Speaker 3: find a way to lose it. Yeah, it's a model

2424
01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:14,880
Speaker 3: in tanking. I like the Cardinals. It's a tankthon is

2425
01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:16,280
Speaker 3: that their website.

2426
01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:18,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, take a palooza, that's what the kids call it.

2427
01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:23,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll take the I'm gonna take the Rams. Yeah,

2428
01:48:23,320 --> 01:48:25,280
Speaker 3: I don't feel great about it. They're both of these

2429
01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:26,120
Speaker 3: teams are struggling.

2430
01:48:26,840 --> 01:48:31,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Cardinals, partly because.

2431
01:48:31,439 --> 01:48:33,280
Speaker 3: You want you want to root against Matthew Stafford, so

2432
01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:33,960
Speaker 3: you make fun of it.

2433
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:35,800
Speaker 1: I get it, and I want the Cardinals to get

2434
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:40,519
Speaker 1: that third loss. Uh four oh five, Fox, seven and three.

2435
01:48:40,840 --> 01:48:44,799
Speaker 1: Browns are at the five and five Broncos.

2436
01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:47,360
Speaker 3: Denver by one and a half. What has suddenly become

2437
01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:50,040
Speaker 3: an interesting game in the AFC. Right, they're an interesting

2438
01:48:50,120 --> 01:48:52,840
Speaker 3: team Denver. Yeah, all of a sudden, the defense has

2439
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:53,599
Speaker 3: played much better.

2440
01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:56,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna go with the quarterback at home, I'll

2441
01:48:56,200 --> 01:49:00,679
Speaker 6: take I'll take the Broncos just TTR, it's not happening.

2442
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:05,439
Speaker 5: I'm also gonna take the Broncos. But vance Joseph having

2443
01:49:05,479 --> 01:49:08,759
Speaker 5: the time of his life running the Brown the Broncos

2444
01:49:08,840 --> 01:49:12,120
Speaker 5: defense lately, and I just think that defense, really, I

2445
01:49:12,160 --> 01:49:14,360
Speaker 5: think they actually have some good players on that defense too.

2446
01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:16,519
Speaker 3: I don't think it's just you know, smoking mirrors.

2447
01:49:16,640 --> 01:49:18,040
Speaker 1: And they play home every week.

2448
01:49:17,880 --> 01:49:21,360
Speaker 5: And they home every week and Russell Wilson's a big advantage.

2449
01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:24,240
Speaker 5: It is the Russ magic stuff is gone, but he's

2450
01:49:24,280 --> 01:49:26,599
Speaker 5: at least functioning in the offense at this point.

2451
01:49:26,680 --> 01:49:30,639
Speaker 3: So I like the Broncos. Yeah, I watched pretty much

2452
01:49:30,720 --> 01:49:33,000
Speaker 3: wire to wire that game the other night against Minnesota.

2453
01:49:33,120 --> 01:49:36,400
Speaker 3: They they made they made some plays. I mean they

2454
01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:39,639
Speaker 3: they were really good when they had to be down

2455
01:49:39,720 --> 01:49:41,080
Speaker 3: the stretch in a game that they were kind of

2456
01:49:41,120 --> 01:49:44,160
Speaker 3: getting out played for the most part. And to your point,

2457
01:49:44,240 --> 01:49:46,080
Speaker 3: like Russell Wilson made some plays when he had to,

2458
01:49:46,360 --> 01:49:50,080
Speaker 3: some big time throws on fourth down and Courtland Sutton

2459
01:49:50,160 --> 01:49:52,160
Speaker 3: came up big. I think they're gonna keep it going

2460
01:49:52,240 --> 01:49:52,760
Speaker 3: with Jerry.

2461
01:49:53,840 --> 01:49:56,759
Speaker 1: I am gonna go with the Broncos as well. Sean

2462
01:49:56,840 --> 01:49:59,479
Speaker 1: Payton's kind of getting back into the groove.

2463
01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:01,679
Speaker 3: There was a moment this could get them over five hundred.

2464
01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:03,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a moment they were like, is he

2465
01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:05,680
Speaker 1: a still able to do it? But he's got He's

2466
01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:07,960
Speaker 1: got them back on the right track. Four to twenty

2467
01:50:08,040 --> 01:50:11,639
Speaker 1: five CBS seven and three Chiefs are at the five

2468
01:50:11,720 --> 01:50:13,920
Speaker 1: and seat five and six Raiders.

2469
01:50:14,320 --> 01:50:16,840
Speaker 3: Kansas City by eight and a half, eight and a half.

2470
01:50:17,840 --> 01:50:20,040
Speaker 6: I am I'm definitely going with the Chiefs in this one,

2471
01:50:20,280 --> 01:50:22,519
Speaker 6: and I think I'm gonna lay the points. I like

2472
01:50:22,600 --> 01:50:25,479
Speaker 6: them to bounce back after that lost to Philadelphia. They'll

2473
01:50:25,520 --> 01:50:28,599
Speaker 6: catch them passes and the Raiders will lose.

2474
01:50:28,840 --> 01:50:31,680
Speaker 3: I'll catch some paths they didn't. They didn't catch the

2475
01:50:31,720 --> 01:50:33,439
Speaker 3: passes fast facts.

2476
01:50:33,960 --> 01:50:37,400
Speaker 5: I like the Chiefs as well both ways, but they

2477
01:50:37,479 --> 01:50:42,519
Speaker 5: are so six twenty thirteen patriotsy it's not even funny.

2478
01:50:42,640 --> 01:50:44,920
Speaker 3: But in these types of games, I still like the Chiefs.

2479
01:50:45,160 --> 01:50:48,120
Speaker 3: I will take Kansas City, but on the road Division game,

2480
01:50:48,160 --> 01:50:49,080
Speaker 3: I'll take eight and a half.

2481
01:50:50,920 --> 01:50:54,479
Speaker 1: I'm with Paul. Chiefs win, but they don't cover. Raiders

2482
01:50:54,560 --> 01:50:59,080
Speaker 1: cover four to twenty five CBS six and five Bills

2483
01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:01,240
Speaker 1: at the nine one Eagle.

2484
01:51:01,320 --> 01:51:04,360
Speaker 3: Good matchup. Eagles by three and a half.

2485
01:51:07,000 --> 01:51:09,719
Speaker 6: I don't wish I could say the Buffalo is gonna

2486
01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:12,280
Speaker 6: continue to bounce back. I think this is a reality

2487
01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:14,160
Speaker 6: check for them. They still got problems. I'm gonna take

2488
01:51:14,160 --> 01:51:15,200
Speaker 6: the Eagles and lay the points.

2489
01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:17,000
Speaker 3: I'm with Deuce.

2490
01:51:17,080 --> 01:51:20,280
Speaker 5: I think that the Eagles are a weird team to

2491
01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:23,000
Speaker 5: me still, I don't know if they're they're really playing,

2492
01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:26,200
Speaker 5: but they're they're roster talent, and everything just seems so

2493
01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:28,400
Speaker 5: much better than everybody else's I'm taking the Eagles.

2494
01:51:29,280 --> 01:51:34,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna take Buffalo both ways, mostly because Philadelphia

2495
01:51:34,600 --> 01:51:37,879
Speaker 3: is coming off that emotional Monday night road winning Cancs's

2496
01:51:37,880 --> 01:51:39,840
Speaker 3: sitting Nick Sirianni after that, Yeah, I thought it was

2497
01:51:39,880 --> 01:51:42,439
Speaker 3: embarrassing cool, So I think that obviously meant a lot

2498
01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:45,240
Speaker 3: to them based on that, and like, rather than just

2499
01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:48,160
Speaker 3: have it be a regular season business trip, I think

2500
01:51:48,200 --> 01:51:50,280
Speaker 3: they put a lot into it, and that's the biggest

2501
01:51:50,320 --> 01:51:53,519
Speaker 3: reason I'm taking Buffalo. But I do fear the Eagles

2502
01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:55,920
Speaker 3: just powering up and running it right down Buffalo's throat.

2503
01:51:56,040 --> 01:51:58,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the Eagles are a weird team, like

2504
01:51:58,280 --> 01:52:00,920
Speaker 1: there often seems hitchy to me. You know, maybe that's

2505
01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:01,320
Speaker 1: because of.

2506
01:52:01,400 --> 01:52:03,400
Speaker 3: Her close a team that could sign Chapel.

2507
01:52:03,200 --> 01:52:07,400
Speaker 1: But they are so much talent throwout, They're very They're

2508
01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:10,320
Speaker 1: a balanced team. So I'm gonna take the Eagles to

2509
01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:12,560
Speaker 1: beat the Bills and the Bills dropping to six and

2510
01:52:12,680 --> 01:52:14,799
Speaker 1: six and that window continues to close.

2511
01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:16,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you ain't lying because you see the rest of

2512
01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:17,120
Speaker 3: their schedule.

2513
01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:18,880
Speaker 1: They got a heart schedule.

2514
01:52:18,920 --> 01:52:23,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like Philly, Miami on the road, Kansas City,

2515
01:52:23,240 --> 01:52:24,599
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh on the road.

2516
01:52:24,680 --> 01:52:27,240
Speaker 5: Day if they don't pull it together, they legitimately might

2517
01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:28,000
Speaker 5: not make the playoffs.

2518
01:52:28,200 --> 01:52:31,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they're in major major Troup.

2519
01:52:31,240 --> 01:52:35,240
Speaker 1: Eight twenty and be sure. The eight and three Ravens

2520
01:52:35,479 --> 01:52:38,320
Speaker 1: are at the four and six Chargers.

2521
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:40,320
Speaker 3: Baltimore by three and a half.

2522
01:52:41,680 --> 01:52:44,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I think the Chargers are really struggling

2523
01:52:44,320 --> 01:52:46,720
Speaker 6: right now. I'm going to take Baltimore the I mean,

2524
01:52:46,720 --> 01:52:48,479
Speaker 6: they might be the best team in the AFC.

2525
01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:52,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm taking Baltimore. I can't believe it's only three

2526
01:52:52,280 --> 01:52:53,559
Speaker 5: and a half. I'm taking Baltimore.

2527
01:52:55,080 --> 01:52:57,240
Speaker 3: I am going to take Baltimore, but I'm going to

2528
01:52:57,280 --> 01:52:58,080
Speaker 3: take the hook.

2529
01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:05,479
Speaker 1: Right, I'm gonna take Baltimore both ways, all right. Monday Night, ESPN, ABC,

2530
01:53:05,760 --> 01:53:10,240
Speaker 1: ESPN Deportes. Three and eight Bears are at the six

2531
01:53:10,320 --> 01:53:12,000
Speaker 1: and five Vikings.

2532
01:53:12,240 --> 01:53:13,840
Speaker 3: Minnesota by three and a half.

2533
01:53:15,520 --> 01:53:19,679
Speaker 6: Justin Fields he's back. Oh boy, I'm gonna I'm gonna

2534
01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:21,599
Speaker 6: go with the home team. Tough to get a read

2535
01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:24,840
Speaker 6: on where these teams are headed right now. I'll take

2536
01:53:24,840 --> 01:53:25,960
Speaker 6: Minnesota lay the points.

2537
01:53:26,920 --> 01:53:29,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the home team too.

2538
01:53:29,720 --> 01:53:32,000
Speaker 5: But I actually thought the Bears played pretty well last week,

2539
01:53:32,040 --> 01:53:34,720
Speaker 5: and Justin Field's played pretty well, So I'm gonna take

2540
01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:37,800
Speaker 5: the Bears to cover, but I'm gonna take Minnesota win.

2541
01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:40,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, for the one hundred and eleventh time since Justin

2542
01:53:40,240 --> 01:53:42,040
Speaker 3: Field has been the quarterback of the Bears. I'm gonna

2543
01:53:42,040 --> 01:53:44,720
Speaker 3: take the Bears to win outright, and they're not going to,

2544
01:53:44,880 --> 01:53:45,680
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna take one.

2545
01:53:45,760 --> 01:53:48,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Bears too, like. I just think

2546
01:53:48,800 --> 01:53:52,439
Speaker 1: that eventually he's gonna get it and maybe they'll pull

2547
01:53:52,479 --> 01:53:56,559
Speaker 1: out the win. One o'clock. We go back to Sunday

2548
01:53:56,600 --> 01:54:00,360
Speaker 1: at one and it's the two and eight Patriots visiting

2549
01:54:00,439 --> 01:54:02,959
Speaker 1: MetLife to face the three and eight Giants.

2550
01:54:04,760 --> 01:54:07,640
Speaker 3: What a game, Patriots by three and a half.

2551
01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:11,879
Speaker 6: Three and a half. Well, I'm gonna take the Giants

2552
01:54:12,680 --> 01:54:14,759
Speaker 6: just I wish I could take the Patriots. Too much uncertainty.

2553
01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:16,680
Speaker 6: We don't know who's going to start a quarterback. We

2554
01:54:16,800 --> 01:54:18,600
Speaker 6: saw the Giants we're able to, you know, produce some

2555
01:54:18,680 --> 01:54:20,640
Speaker 6: big plays. That's been a problem for the Patriots too.

2556
01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:22,639
Speaker 6: I'm worried that those will be a problem this weekend

2557
01:54:22,720 --> 01:54:25,439
Speaker 6: for them. I like the Giants to score enough to

2558
01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:27,400
Speaker 6: make it happen, but it's gonna still be a low

2559
01:54:27,439 --> 01:54:31,639
Speaker 6: scoring game. I will take the Giants nineteen sixteen.

2560
01:54:32,680 --> 01:54:35,720
Speaker 5: I also like the Giants, I just don't know who's

2561
01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:37,240
Speaker 5: going to be at quarterback. I don't know if they

2562
01:54:37,320 --> 01:54:39,720
Speaker 5: know who's going to be at quarterback. And Mama's Boys

2563
01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:42,880
Speaker 5: at least playing quarterback for the Giants, they have a

2564
01:54:42,880 --> 01:54:46,480
Speaker 5: little bit as you know, continuity there. I think it's

2565
01:54:46,600 --> 01:54:49,600
Speaker 5: sixteen to thirteen Giants.

2566
01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:52,520
Speaker 3: Can't wait to watch this one. I am going to

2567
01:54:52,600 --> 01:54:55,440
Speaker 3: have some faith bred that the Giants will make enough

2568
01:54:55,520 --> 01:55:00,720
Speaker 3: mistakes for the Patriots to win. I'm gonna say it's

2569
01:55:00,760 --> 01:55:03,600
Speaker 3: going to be a field goal fest, and I have

2570
01:55:03,680 --> 01:55:07,520
Speaker 3: the same score as my nineteen to sixteen Patriots, So

2571
01:55:07,640 --> 01:55:09,840
Speaker 3: I will take the Patriots to win, but I'll take

2572
01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:10,280
Speaker 3: in the hook.

2573
01:55:11,320 --> 01:55:15,440
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I kind of hope you're right, Paul, and

2574
01:55:15,480 --> 01:55:17,400
Speaker 1: I kind of hope you're wrong. It's one of those

2575
01:55:17,480 --> 01:55:20,560
Speaker 1: seasons for Patris, I understand, but I'm gonna go with

2576
01:55:20,640 --> 01:55:25,040
Speaker 1: the Giants to win at home. Twenty to thirteen. Twenty

2577
01:55:25,120 --> 01:55:26,240
Speaker 1: to thirteen Giants.

2578
01:55:26,320 --> 01:55:27,960
Speaker 3: That has to be the first time in the history

2579
01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:30,320
Speaker 3: of the Illustrious Picks Contest that Paul was the only

2580
01:55:30,440 --> 01:55:32,120
Speaker 3: one to take the Patriots.

2581
01:55:32,440 --> 01:55:34,520
Speaker 1: Just you're very positive. You can wear that badge of

2582
01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:35,600
Speaker 1: honor for the rest of the week.

2583
01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:36,880
Speaker 3: I'm proud of that, all right.

2584
01:55:37,280 --> 01:55:40,520
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