WEBVTT - Round Four: SUVs with Ezra Dyer 0:00:15.316 --> 0:00:21.876 Pushkin. I'm going to start with one that I know 0:00:22.116 --> 0:00:25.716 is near and dear to you. You're an OJ Bronco fan, 0:00:26.156 --> 0:00:29.516 an og OJ Bronco fan, You've had a lot of 0:00:29.556 --> 0:00:32.396 these things, and I want to talk about the new 0:00:32.556 --> 0:00:37.156 Ford Broncho Raptor. And the thing I'll say about this 0:00:37.436 --> 0:00:40.916 vehicle is they should have put more animals in the name, 0:00:41.196 --> 0:00:47.316 like should have been Broncho Raptor, Gator, aucelot, What are you, crocodile? 0:00:48.636 --> 0:00:50.956 I just learned about the II, that little primate that 0:00:50.996 --> 0:00:53.356 can pick its nose with a really long finger. Throw 0:00:53.356 --> 0:01:00.316 that in there. Yeah, the Broncho Raptor. That's my guy, 0:01:00.396 --> 0:01:04.716 Ezra Dyer, the northeaster of automotive journalism who moved down 0:01:04.796 --> 0:01:07.196 south so he could drive more four by fours in 0:01:07.236 --> 0:01:11.036 the mud. He's now the Carolina's editor for Crrent Driver, 0:01:11.596 --> 0:01:15.036 and he was driving big, stupid SUVs before the rest 0:01:15.076 --> 0:01:18.556 of America discovered them. He's going to help us sort 0:01:18.596 --> 0:01:22.356 out this year's crop of SUVs. On deck this week 0:01:22.556 --> 0:01:27.636 are the Ford Bronco Raptor, the Honda CRV, the Genesis 0:01:27.716 --> 0:01:31.756 GV seventy, and of course the all new Range Rover. 0:01:32.636 --> 0:01:41.756 I'm Eddie Alterman and this is car show. I think 0:01:41.796 --> 0:01:45.556 this is the equivalent of, you know, the most luxurious 0:01:45.676 --> 0:01:50.316 luxury car interior. It's not perfect, it's not Apple, it's Samsung. 0:01:54.836 --> 0:01:58.836 The Ford Bronco Raptor takes the already ridiculous Bronco and 0:01:59.036 --> 0:02:03.516 ridiculates it further. Ford bumps the twin TURBOV six out 0:02:03.516 --> 0:02:07.396 to three leaders and four hundred and eighteen horsepower, straps 0:02:07.396 --> 0:02:11.196 on thirty seven inch tires, and fits a suspension that 0:02:11.316 --> 0:02:15.436 travels farther than buzz Aldrin. It's an off road mountain goat, 0:02:16.076 --> 0:02:25.116 but is it the goat? So first of all, that 0:02:25.236 --> 0:02:29.236 vehicle should appeal to me completely because it's an overkill Bronco. 0:02:29.316 --> 0:02:31.036 But my only thing is I feel like maybe it's 0:02:31.076 --> 0:02:36.276 not quite overkill enough under the hood. Everywhere else, of course, 0:02:36.596 --> 0:02:41.196 suspension is ridiculous. It has fender flares that are made 0:02:41.196 --> 0:02:44.276 of half of rubber Maid's annual production. I think is 0:02:44.316 --> 0:02:47.676 now going to Ford Bronco fender flares. I drove it 0:02:47.676 --> 0:02:49.836 out at Car Driver's said best Testing, and it is 0:02:50.276 --> 0:02:54.036 quite a singular machine. Well, it only has twin turbo 0:02:54.356 --> 0:02:57.236 three leader V six. It doesn't have a big honkin 0:02:57.676 --> 0:02:59.716 the eight like they put in the Raptor R and 0:02:59.796 --> 0:03:04.556 it makes a paltry four hundred and eighteen horsepower. Right, 0:03:04.636 --> 0:03:06.596 don't you feel like they pulled a punch there? I mean, 0:03:06.916 --> 0:03:09.676 what they couldn't fit the three point five leader boost 0:03:09.716 --> 0:03:12.676 in it. It's kind of ridiculous, right. But the other 0:03:12.716 --> 0:03:16.796 thing is the Broncho itself is so dog slow that 0:03:16.916 --> 0:03:19.196 this thing feels like to me, it feels like this 0:03:19.276 --> 0:03:21.996 is what the Bronco should have been to start with, 0:03:22.436 --> 0:03:25.276 Like this should be the base Bronco because it actually 0:03:25.316 --> 0:03:28.076 gets out of its own way, and the gearing isn't 0:03:28.116 --> 0:03:31.316 crazy because it's got that ten speed automatic. I love 0:03:31.356 --> 0:03:35.836 a manual gearbox, but in that Bronco with the manual, 0:03:36.076 --> 0:03:40.956 you've got that super short stump pulling first gear and 0:03:41.316 --> 0:03:44.156 the rest of the gears are super lazy, and it's 0:03:44.196 --> 0:03:46.956 just like it doesn't accelerate. I don't know, I think 0:03:46.996 --> 0:03:49.876 this should have been the base Broncho. Well, I mean, 0:03:50.236 --> 0:03:52.236 it doesn't help, but they only give you the manual 0:03:52.316 --> 0:03:55.356 with the four cylinder. But yeah, they do offer I 0:03:55.396 --> 0:03:57.196 saw they just come out with a reflash for it 0:03:57.196 --> 0:03:59.516 where they'll jack up basically the four cylinder to the 0:03:59.596 --> 0:04:02.156 V six power and the V six you can make 0:04:02.156 --> 0:04:04.476 a little bit more and they'll give it REV matching 0:04:04.516 --> 0:04:06.716 on the downship. So they've kind of sported up the 0:04:06.716 --> 0:04:09.796 base Bronco maybe before it already realized that they realize that, 0:04:09.836 --> 0:04:11.436 wait a minute, maybe we should have made this thing 0:04:11.476 --> 0:04:13.476 a little bit puncher in the first place, because it's 0:04:13.476 --> 0:04:15.956 a big rig. Yeah, and especially by the time you 0:04:15.956 --> 0:04:17.916 get to the Broncho Raptor, which is like a Bronco 0:04:17.956 --> 0:04:20.676 and a half. You know what, the Ford always leaves 0:04:20.716 --> 0:04:23.316 themselves and out to do a little bit more down 0:04:23.396 --> 0:04:26.876 the line, and they probably figure morons are paying one 0:04:26.956 --> 0:04:30.596 hundred and twenty thousand for these things anyway, So let's 0:04:30.636 --> 0:04:33.236 just let's leave ourselves some headroom to drop a three 0:04:33.276 --> 0:04:35.516 point five minute two years from now and go Tedda 0:04:35.836 --> 0:04:38.676 keep some powder dry, right, Yeah, then it'll be the 0:04:38.716 --> 0:04:43.116 Bronco Raptor, are at exactly right, that'll need the awesolet 0:04:43.276 --> 0:04:47.276 edition Texas Rodeo. However, they're going to sell it in 0:04:47.396 --> 0:04:51.116 you know, different regional markets and that'll be there. That'll 0:04:51.156 --> 0:04:53.516 be their big thing. But for me, I just aesthetically, 0:04:53.796 --> 0:04:57.236 I just can't get over those fender flares. And it 0:04:57.276 --> 0:05:00.676 could have been done almost any other way would be 0:05:00.716 --> 0:05:03.156 more elegant than the way they did it. It's funny 0:05:03.196 --> 0:05:06.476 to talk about aesthetics and this thing in the same sentence, 0:05:06.636 --> 0:05:08.396 but I think you're right. It is a little crude, 0:05:08.436 --> 0:05:12.036 and I think this should be sort of the base Broncho. 0:05:12.076 --> 0:05:16.276 As I said, I think it's a wonderful soft, compliant 0:05:16.756 --> 0:05:20.876 daily driver, good enough power. The only thing about it 0:05:20.916 --> 0:05:23.556 is you can't drive it to a funeral. You know, 0:05:23.756 --> 0:05:27.196 you can't wear a Philadelphia Eagles jersey and Oakley blades 0:05:27.276 --> 0:05:29.876 to a funeral. This is like, you know, this is 0:05:29.956 --> 0:05:34.236 such an idiot's car. What's your take on that. I 0:05:34.276 --> 0:05:36.476 would hope someone would drive a Bronco Raptor to my 0:05:36.556 --> 0:05:40.676 funeral and rip some donuts or something. It's got crazy 0:05:40.836 --> 0:05:43.476 wide axles and wider track and I didn't get to 0:05:43.476 --> 0:05:47.196 take it off road really much, but it is supposed 0:05:47.236 --> 0:05:50.316 to be the king of off road of anything you 0:05:50.356 --> 0:05:52.316 can buy right now, and I can see how that 0:05:52.356 --> 0:05:56.796 would be. Triple lockers and crazy approach and departure angles 0:05:56.796 --> 0:06:00.396 and ground clearance and suspension travel like it's kind of 0:06:00.436 --> 0:06:03.196 designed to do the King of the Hammers thing from 0:06:03.196 --> 0:06:06.596 the factory, which is amazing. And ridiculous. It is amazing. 0:06:06.636 --> 0:06:08.796 And I've driven this thing off road and it's almost 0:06:08.796 --> 0:06:12.356 like an autonomous vehicle off road. It just goes anywhere 0:06:12.356 --> 0:06:15.076 you put it, you lock the axles, the thing just 0:06:15.236 --> 0:06:20.196 creeps over everything. You've got those helper spot or cameras 0:06:20.276 --> 0:06:22.956 to show you what's going on underneath. I mean, the 0:06:22.996 --> 0:06:26.556 thing is so incredibly capable off road, this kind of 0:06:26.556 --> 0:06:29.676 a miracle that it drives as civilly as it does 0:06:30.076 --> 0:06:32.676 on road. I feel like it's more civil than your 0:06:32.716 --> 0:06:36.436 average cheap wrangler on road. But here's my problem with 0:06:36.756 --> 0:06:39.756 super duper capable vehicles like that is part of the 0:06:39.796 --> 0:06:42.556 thrill of off roading is not being sure whether you're 0:06:42.556 --> 0:06:45.156 going to get back out. Yeah, so what kind of 0:06:45.276 --> 0:06:47.316 terran do you find with a broco raptor where you're 0:06:47.356 --> 0:06:49.356 really wondering whether you're going to get back out. It's 0:06:49.396 --> 0:06:51.756 going to be something where you might need a chin 0:06:51.916 --> 0:06:54.516 a helicopter to extricate you if it does go wrong, 0:06:54.916 --> 0:06:56.996 because really, how are you going to get that thing stuck? 0:06:57.036 --> 0:07:00.116 I'm sure people will, people will find ways. So there 0:07:00.236 --> 0:07:02.716 is there is that aspect of what is the point 0:07:02.796 --> 0:07:05.956 ultimately here? Yeah, but it's very hard to do, and 0:07:06.516 --> 0:07:10.396 you know, I found the thing totally enjoyable and everyday 0:07:10.476 --> 0:07:12.916 driving I know I was in the minority, but you know, 0:07:13.236 --> 0:07:15.956 I've like I'm missing half a lope of my brain, 0:07:16.076 --> 0:07:19.076 so I think, well, it is Yeah, you're not known 0:07:19.116 --> 0:07:23.436 as a left brain thinker. It is a paradox of 0:07:23.636 --> 0:07:26.276 trucks like the Bronco Raptor. These this genre of off 0:07:26.356 --> 0:07:28.956 road desert racers that we have now with the ramtr 0:07:29.036 --> 0:07:32.436 Ax and the Raptor which spawned at Colorado ZR two, 0:07:32.956 --> 0:07:35.876 is that they're really comfortable on road. You know, when 0:07:35.876 --> 0:07:38.196 you have a foot and a half of suspension travel 0:07:38.436 --> 0:07:42.756 and you know ninety profile tires, guess what that's going 0:07:42.796 --> 0:07:45.796 to ride real nice? Yeah, on the broken pavement of 0:07:45.796 --> 0:07:47.596 our reality. I think that's part of the reason for 0:07:47.636 --> 0:07:50.956 the popularity of these things is that people like the 0:07:50.996 --> 0:07:53.316 way they look. Obviously, and everybody wants to have more 0:07:53.356 --> 0:07:56.796 capability than they really need in their vehicle. But it 0:07:56.836 --> 0:07:59.716 does actually as opposed to like a Lamborghini that goes 0:07:59.716 --> 0:08:02.356 two hundred miles an hour. The crazy part of the 0:08:02.396 --> 0:08:07.676 capability of these things translates to actual enjoyability on the street. 0:08:07.796 --> 0:08:10.156 You're just smothering every thing that comes your way out, 0:08:10.196 --> 0:08:13.556 speed bombs, speed up right right exactly, get a little 0:08:13.556 --> 0:08:17.036 air if you can, You'll land like a cat. You know. Well, 0:08:17.356 --> 0:08:20.996 let's move on to something that's altogether more sane and 0:08:21.196 --> 0:08:25.156 much more mainstream and enters one of the most hotly 0:08:25.196 --> 0:08:29.876 contested segments there is, which is the compact luxury SUV segment, 0:08:30.716 --> 0:08:38.996 and I'm talking about the Genesis GV seventy. The GV seventy, 0:08:39.236 --> 0:08:42.876 as the Alpha numerics imply, is the suv version of 0:08:42.916 --> 0:08:47.196 the Genesis G seventy sports Sedan, although I'm not exactly 0:08:47.236 --> 0:08:52.356 sure what the V actually means here, vigorous anyway, it's 0:08:52.436 --> 0:08:55.676 darn vivacious, offering your choice of a two point five 0:08:55.756 --> 0:08:58.996 liter turbo four or a twin turbo three point five 0:08:59.076 --> 0:09:02.316 liter V six. It's also got one of the nicest 0:09:02.356 --> 0:09:07.796 interiors this side of a Bentley Mosan. They just murdered 0:09:07.796 --> 0:09:10.116 it with this one. They knocked it out of the park. 0:09:10.116 --> 0:09:13.676 They picked the exact right midway point in the segment 0:09:13.796 --> 0:09:21.396 between the super Doughey soft squishy Lexus r X and 0:09:21.436 --> 0:09:25.676 then the super taught, you know, super sporty Porsche Mcan. 0:09:26.076 --> 0:09:28.676 This thing is just like splitting it right down the middle. 0:09:29.196 --> 0:09:33.396 What's your take on this thing? They did somehow manage 0:09:33.396 --> 0:09:38.036 to find daylight in a segment that is just relentlessly 0:09:38.316 --> 0:09:42.196 everything is benchmarked against everything else, and there's only so 0:09:42.236 --> 0:09:45.396 many ways you can draw a two box shape. Everything 0:09:45.636 --> 0:09:48.716 tends to kind of look like everything else too, And 0:09:48.756 --> 0:09:52.076 they came up with an interesting look for one thing, 0:09:52.556 --> 0:09:55.716 especially with the grill that you know right away, hey, 0:09:55.716 --> 0:09:58.116 that's a Genesis, and not in a bad way. You know, 0:09:58.116 --> 0:09:59.916 when a lot of companies come out with a you know, 0:10:00.036 --> 0:10:04.756 a signature grill, it's like the Accurate Beak or even 0:10:04.796 --> 0:10:06.596 the OUTI single frame when they came out with that. 0:10:06.676 --> 0:10:09.916 But Genesis, they came out with a cool looking front end. 0:10:10.076 --> 0:10:14.356 It's definitely large, although you know, I hear what you're 0:10:14.396 --> 0:10:17.356 saying that it's distinctive because it's so chromed out and 0:10:17.436 --> 0:10:20.596 so big. But I get a lot of people saying 0:10:20.596 --> 0:10:23.996 it's a Bentley. The point is you know exactly what 0:10:24.036 --> 0:10:25.556 it is when you see it, and you know, assuming 0:10:25.556 --> 0:10:28.316 you don't think it's Eventley, I put it this way, 0:10:28.356 --> 0:10:29.876 it looks way better than it been taken. That's for 0:10:29.996 --> 0:10:33.196 damn sure. You're gonna mistake it for Eventley. Bentley wishes 0:10:33.196 --> 0:10:36.596 it could look like a GB seventy, but also on 0:10:36.636 --> 0:10:41.756 the inside too, it has just fantastic materials and interesting colors. 0:10:41.756 --> 0:10:44.556 When it's got that red interior popping out at you, 0:10:45.316 --> 0:10:48.956 and everything is just so well done in the manner 0:10:49.036 --> 0:10:53.116 of Lexus of your I would say, like you just 0:10:53.156 --> 0:10:55.436 want to spin the dials and push the buttons and 0:10:55.556 --> 0:10:57.636 feel the way the switches were because it's all just 0:10:57.836 --> 0:11:00.956 so dialed in and good. It's funny that you say Lexus, 0:11:00.956 --> 0:11:04.196 because you know Lexus when it came out in nineteen 0:11:04.236 --> 0:11:08.876 eighty nine nineteen ninety they were really exploiting a big 0:11:09.276 --> 0:11:12.876 economic advantage, you know, of the end versus the dollar, 0:11:13.076 --> 0:11:15.836 and they were able to load so much value into 0:11:15.876 --> 0:11:20.036 those vehicles. The Koreans have a slightly different approach. I mean, 0:11:20.076 --> 0:11:23.116 they're totally vertically integrated. They make their own steel, they do, 0:11:23.476 --> 0:11:27.396 but they can deliver so much value for so little money. 0:11:27.836 --> 0:11:31.316 And this thing starts at forty three thousand dollars and 0:11:31.396 --> 0:11:34.596 it's got like one hundred thousand dollars worth of interior 0:11:34.636 --> 0:11:38.316 in it. It's just incredibly good swayed everywhere you can 0:11:38.316 --> 0:11:42.756 get contrast stitching and piping you can get different color 0:11:42.876 --> 0:11:46.596 seatbelts like a Porsche. It's just nuts in there, and 0:11:46.956 --> 0:11:49.436 it's really good to drive. It's the other thing, yeah, 0:11:49.436 --> 0:11:52.996 in which Genesis they weren't always you know, they ramped 0:11:53.076 --> 0:11:57.356 up really quickly into excellent to drive as opposed to 0:11:57.436 --> 0:11:59.796 just trying to be like a softer Mercedes. Is kind 0:11:59.796 --> 0:12:03.476 of where they started. Yeah, and now they're even though 0:12:03.516 --> 0:12:06.756 that's not a you know, a finely honed sporting machine 0:12:06.876 --> 0:12:11.196 like a Macon GTS or something. It's pretty sharp and 0:12:11.636 --> 0:12:14.476 especially with the V six, it sounds good, it's fast, 0:12:15.116 --> 0:12:19.836 it's fun to drive without having that overtly sporty edginess 0:12:19.836 --> 0:12:21.676 that's beating you up all the time like a BMW 0:12:22.036 --> 0:12:26.676 X three M competition or something where you're like, okay, 0:12:26.716 --> 0:12:29.116 I get it, it's sporty. Ok. I don't need to 0:12:29.156 --> 0:12:31.916 feel every seam in the pavement all the time in 0:12:31.956 --> 0:12:36.756 my midsized crossover, right. Genesis gets that. Yeah, It's like 0:12:37.116 --> 0:12:40.556 the engine is sporty, but it rides like a jag. 0:12:40.916 --> 0:12:44.556 It doesn't kill you with sportiness. The V six is 0:12:44.556 --> 0:12:47.476 sporty enough. It kind of rides like a luxury car, 0:12:47.796 --> 0:12:50.556 although when you go over bigger bumps, you get a 0:12:50.556 --> 0:12:54.356 little harshness in the wheel impacts. And that's the one 0:12:54.436 --> 0:12:57.716 little area where I'm like, you know, another couple of 0:12:57.796 --> 0:13:01.596 cycles of suspension development, and they could get it to 0:13:01.636 --> 0:13:03.916 the bends. But they move so fast, you know, like 0:13:03.956 --> 0:13:06.036 there's gonna be a new one next year or something. 0:13:06.116 --> 0:13:09.436 They just they cycle so much more quickly than all 0:13:09.436 --> 0:13:13.556 the other brands, and that's what causes them to evolve 0:13:13.596 --> 0:13:16.396 so much faster. Yeah, Like, whatever you think is wrong 0:13:16.436 --> 0:13:18.996 with the GV seventy, just wait a year, right, And 0:13:19.396 --> 0:13:22.316 they're super responsive. That's totally true. And look, this is 0:13:22.876 --> 0:13:26.636 Genesis as a brand, just their second SUV, and they're 0:13:26.676 --> 0:13:30.716 fully competitive. It's incredible. And from what I understand, it's 0:13:30.996 --> 0:13:32.916 you know, we can extrapolate from the GV eighty and 0:13:32.956 --> 0:13:36.436 tied Woods. It's probably very same. Yes, that's true. Don't 0:13:36.476 --> 0:13:41.636 forget it saved his life. After the break, we'll be 0:13:41.676 --> 0:13:56.036 back with a new Honda CRV. Well, let's talk next 0:13:56.116 --> 0:13:59.836 about a vehicle that's sort of ubiquitous and is all 0:13:59.956 --> 0:14:02.396 new for twenty twenty three. And I just drove in 0:14:02.476 --> 0:14:04.876 and I know you did, and this thing is sort 0:14:04.916 --> 0:14:08.956 of like the municipal car for every small liberal town. 0:14:09.436 --> 0:14:12.156 I'm not talking about super roof. I'm talking about the 0:14:12.236 --> 0:14:16.276 Honda CRV. This thing is just incrementally better than the 0:14:16.356 --> 0:14:20.156 last one. But that's all it needed to be a 0:14:20.196 --> 0:14:23.916 little bigger, a little quicker, and a little more sophisticated. 0:14:24.436 --> 0:14:28.156 That's the new Honda CRV. Honda is really pushing the 0:14:28.236 --> 0:14:31.756 hybrid versions here. They started just around thirty three thousand 0:14:31.836 --> 0:14:36.236 dollars and deliver crazy fuel economy and terrific driving behavior. 0:14:37.276 --> 0:14:40.716 The hybrid system itself is real high end kit with 0:14:40.756 --> 0:14:44.876 a two lead turbo four cylinder augmented with two electric motors, 0:14:45.356 --> 0:14:48.796 one for power and one that's a generator. As the 0:14:48.876 --> 0:14:53.516 kids say, it's electric motor forward. What did you think 0:14:53.516 --> 0:14:58.316 about driving it? I think the last one was utterly 0:14:58.516 --> 0:15:01.836 forgettable in the way that it needed to be to 0:15:01.956 --> 0:15:06.756 appeal to millions of people. The CRV is the new 0:15:07.036 --> 0:15:10.276 Accord or camera in terms of it is the mainstream 0:15:10.356 --> 0:15:13.356 vehicle that everybody buys who doesn't necessarily care about cars, 0:15:13.756 --> 0:15:18.636 but wants a solid, comfortable, reliable, efficient, and on and 0:15:18.676 --> 0:15:21.036 on and on vehicle for their lives that they're going 0:15:21.116 --> 0:15:23.716 to keep for ten years. Maybe. So the thing that's 0:15:23.756 --> 0:15:27.196 great about the new one is that they kept all 0:15:27.236 --> 0:15:31.796 of those attributes, all of the pragmatic things, but they 0:15:31.836 --> 0:15:35.716 also made it more interesting, so someone who does care 0:15:35.716 --> 0:15:38.116 about cars can get it and go all right. I 0:15:38.196 --> 0:15:40.236 like what they did here. I like the style of it. 0:15:40.436 --> 0:15:43.876 I like the design, and everything feels super solid and 0:15:43.956 --> 0:15:46.396 more expensive than it actually is. Yeah, it's better than 0:15:46.436 --> 0:15:48.476 it needs to be. You know. It's not a cynical 0:15:48.636 --> 0:15:51.316 sort of vehicle. And that's what I love about Honda's, 0:15:51.396 --> 0:15:54.756 Like it's sort of the approach they have for Accord 0:15:54.796 --> 0:15:57.076 and Civic. Most people are just going to use it 0:15:57.116 --> 0:16:00.516 as basic transportation. They're never going to change the oil. 0:16:00.556 --> 0:16:02.436 They're going to park it on the street in Brooklyn, 0:16:02.756 --> 0:16:05.916 own it for twenty years and forget about it. But 0:16:06.276 --> 0:16:09.516 somebody who's into driving can take in Accord or Civic 0:16:09.556 --> 0:16:11.876 and just ring the crap out of it, and it's 0:16:11.996 --> 0:16:15.476 utterly satisfying. You know. It is just so so good 0:16:15.516 --> 0:16:18.836 and so there, And the best Hondas have this way 0:16:18.836 --> 0:16:21.476 of sort of disappearing under you, so you just sort 0:16:21.476 --> 0:16:24.196 of flow with the thing, you know. The Civic type 0:16:24.196 --> 0:16:26.716 IR does that for sure, and I think the CRV 0:16:26.916 --> 0:16:30.556 does that too, And it's just an incredible effort. It's 0:16:30.836 --> 0:16:35.396 bigger in every dimension, it's much better to drive. They 0:16:35.596 --> 0:16:38.196 really turn it it on with this thing, and you 0:16:38.196 --> 0:16:41.396 can ignore it pretty easily. But I think it's a 0:16:41.396 --> 0:16:47.596 great achievement. It's also an interesting vehicle from an engineering standpoint, 0:16:47.796 --> 0:16:52.636 specifically the hybrid that is just some cool stuff. Basically 0:16:52.676 --> 0:16:54.916 like you've got an electric car with your own onboard 0:16:54.916 --> 0:16:58.356 generator right as opposed to you know, the way that 0:16:58.676 --> 0:17:00.756 a lot of companies do hybrid is, here's a two 0:17:00.836 --> 0:17:04.636 armed horsepower gas engine and here's a five horsepower at 0:17:05.036 --> 0:17:08.156 a little glorified starter motor, and we're going to call 0:17:08.236 --> 0:17:11.556 it a hybrid. The CRVS the other way around. It's 0:17:11.596 --> 0:17:16.196 basically got big electric motors and an engine that can 0:17:16.356 --> 0:17:19.956 basically power those. But it's cool that they made the 0:17:20.036 --> 0:17:22.196 hybrid sort of the flagship, and they don't even call 0:17:22.196 --> 0:17:24.236 it the hybrid anymore. It's just the CRV sport right now, 0:17:24.276 --> 0:17:27.436 it's a sport touring hybrid or it's right, okay, right, 0:17:27.476 --> 0:17:29.716 But they're not like they're not leaning on the hybrid 0:17:29.756 --> 0:17:32.996 part as much as this is the sport this this 0:17:33.036 --> 0:17:34.276 is the one you want if you want to have 0:17:34.316 --> 0:17:36.436 a little more fun and more power actually, yeah, than 0:17:37.116 --> 0:17:40.756 than the gas model and better mileage than the Toyota 0:17:40.956 --> 0:17:45.236 REV for hybrid, and Toyota is the acknowledged hybrid king. 0:17:45.476 --> 0:17:49.476 And you know, never forget that Honda is an engine 0:17:49.476 --> 0:17:52.836 company first and foremost, and they make all kinds of 0:17:52.876 --> 0:17:56.196 stuff like riding mowers and weed whackers and you know, 0:17:56.396 --> 0:17:59.876 four stroked marine engines, and it all starts with the 0:17:59.916 --> 0:18:06.276 engine in those things. They are to me great engineering achievements, 0:18:06.316 --> 0:18:10.196 great masterpieces. And I don't know about you, but you know, 0:18:10.236 --> 0:18:13.876 I'm constantly being asked to recommend cars, and my fear 0:18:13.996 --> 0:18:16.596 is that I'm going to recommend something that craps out 0:18:16.636 --> 0:18:21.996 on somebody. And I always find myself recommending Honda's because 0:18:21.996 --> 0:18:25.756 of that, to lesser extent, Toyota's and maybe Subarus. But 0:18:26.356 --> 0:18:29.236 you know, for people who are not super wrecked in 0:18:29.236 --> 0:18:33.396 the head and totally insane about cars and just want 0:18:33.436 --> 0:18:38.516 basic transportation that's gonna over deliver, I'm always recommending Civics 0:18:38.516 --> 0:18:41.956 and Chords and crbs, and they're just very very good, 0:18:42.836 --> 0:18:47.476 soundly engineered things. Yeah, you can't go wrong recommending a Honda. 0:18:47.756 --> 0:18:50.596 Nobody's nobody's ever going to come back to you and say, 0:18:50.956 --> 0:18:55.556 I hate this thing exactly exactly. Nobody's mad about their Honda. 0:18:55.636 --> 0:18:58.836 Nobody's pissed at it. Everybody's like as opposed to like 0:18:58.916 --> 0:19:03.796 when I recommended the Volkswagen Phaeton. Yeah, I mean it's 0:19:03.796 --> 0:19:07.356 like recommending a land Rover. You know, that's Russian roulette. 0:19:07.756 --> 0:19:11.316 And that brings us to the last vehicle in the bracket, 0:19:13.516 --> 0:19:17.236 the all new land Rover range Rover one hundred and 0:19:17.276 --> 0:19:20.436 five k to start for the short wheelbase version and 0:19:20.556 --> 0:19:23.836 the top of the line SV version opens at one 0:19:23.916 --> 0:19:33.476 hundred and ninety five thousand dollars. We're not in Kansas anymore, man. 0:19:33.556 --> 0:19:36.716 These things used to be farm implements, and now they're like, 0:19:37.196 --> 0:19:42.596 you know, they fit six Kardashians. And BMW is back 0:19:42.916 --> 0:19:45.876 on the scene. Say more about that. Yes, the range 0:19:45.916 --> 0:19:49.916 Rover is once again powered by BMW VA, just as 0:19:49.956 --> 0:19:54.196 it was in early two thousands. I feel like BMW 0:19:54.196 --> 0:19:57.836 and land Rover are like a toxic couple where it's like, 0:19:57.916 --> 0:20:00.836 I don't know, they're getting back together, well, maybe this 0:20:00.916 --> 0:20:04.036 time it'll work. At BMW's friends are like, oh, I 0:20:04.116 --> 0:20:07.236 remember last time Ford showed up, and then yeah, they're 0:20:07.276 --> 0:20:10.036 getting married again. Where it's like a death the Nation wedding. 0:20:10.396 --> 0:20:13.156 You spend all this money to go and everyone's growning. 0:20:13.236 --> 0:20:16.076 But it actually the thing is, it does work really well. 0:20:16.396 --> 0:20:19.676 You can see why this keeps happening. I mean, it 0:20:19.796 --> 0:20:23.116 is the most distinctive suv. You look at it and 0:20:23.276 --> 0:20:26.476 you go, oh my god, that thing is just gorgeous. 0:20:26.556 --> 0:20:30.356 That's like the platonic ideal of what a luxury suv 0:20:30.476 --> 0:20:33.196 should be. What's better than that? You know, maybe the 0:20:33.236 --> 0:20:36.916 most desirable suv of all time, And in this generation 0:20:37.316 --> 0:20:41.516 they've done such fine detail work on the exterior and 0:20:41.636 --> 0:20:45.196 to some extent the interior. Like around the greenhouse of 0:20:45.276 --> 0:20:50.436 that thing, there's no gasket. It just butts with the 0:20:50.516 --> 0:20:53.716 glass perfectly. It's just so precisely made, and you look 0:20:53.756 --> 0:20:56.076 around that whole thing and you're like, this is just 0:20:56.276 --> 0:21:00.636 insane attention to detail. The surfacing of it is so 0:21:00.716 --> 0:21:05.236 beautiful and so serene almost and so elegant that you 0:21:05.276 --> 0:21:08.556 almost like, I kind of missed the old crappy one. 0:21:10.756 --> 0:21:12.396 I don't know if I missed the crappy one, but 0:21:12.876 --> 0:21:16.636 that the interesting trick that they pulled that's really hard 0:21:16.676 --> 0:21:20.236 to do is to take a vehicle that has kind 0:21:20.236 --> 0:21:23.396 of I hate the word iconic. But the Rangerover shape 0:21:23.476 --> 0:21:29.116 is iconic, and it's super difficult to tune it up 0:21:29.156 --> 0:21:33.796 for a new generation and not lose the unmistakable look 0:21:33.796 --> 0:21:36.996 that it had, but also make it unmistakably new. Yeah, 0:21:37.516 --> 0:21:40.236 and you know Bentley's wrestled with that with like Continental 0:21:40.316 --> 0:21:41.876 GT they come out with and you know, come out 0:21:41.916 --> 0:21:43.236 with a new one. Well it kind of looks like 0:21:43.276 --> 0:21:46.036 the old one because well, they settled on their shape 0:21:46.036 --> 0:21:48.716 and they don't want to screw it up. Rangerover managed 0:21:48.796 --> 0:21:52.356 to take that Jerry McGovern sketch on a napkin and 0:21:52.636 --> 0:21:56.156 turn it into something that is clearly the new generation. 0:21:56.196 --> 0:21:57.676 All your neighbors are going to know you've got the 0:21:57.716 --> 0:22:00.756 new one, right, but everybody else is also going to 0:22:00.836 --> 0:22:03.236 know that you've got a Ranger Over that has to 0:22:03.236 --> 0:22:05.156 be what you're looking at is a range Rover. You 0:22:05.156 --> 0:22:07.596 don't have to explain it to anybody. No, you have 0:22:07.636 --> 0:22:10.116 to explain to anybody. And they did it, like you said, 0:22:10.156 --> 0:22:13.436 through all that fine detailing. It just looks slick and smooth, 0:22:14.236 --> 0:22:19.316 but not just like this wind tunnel shaped boring egg. Yeah, 0:22:19.356 --> 0:22:22.316 you know, I mean, it's still got the distinctive elements 0:22:22.316 --> 0:22:24.596 that make it a range over right, the floating roof, 0:22:25.436 --> 0:22:28.196 kind of the raised capitals on the hood. You sit 0:22:28.436 --> 0:22:30.756 very high in it, so you can still kind of 0:22:30.876 --> 0:22:33.076 peer down the side of the door to look at 0:22:33.116 --> 0:22:37.196 what you're doing off road. This thing remains amazing off road. 0:22:37.476 --> 0:22:39.956 Nobody will ever take it off road, not in this 0:22:40.036 --> 0:22:44.316 country at least, but it is so incredibly tuned up 0:22:44.356 --> 0:22:47.516 for that stuff. And you know, the wee articulations crazy. 0:22:47.596 --> 0:22:50.876 It can ford a ton of water. But my question 0:22:50.956 --> 0:22:54.756 with this one is is it too la? You know, 0:22:54.916 --> 0:22:57.636 like have they smoothed it out too much? The great 0:22:57.676 --> 0:23:01.116 thing about English car design is that every element is 0:23:01.116 --> 0:23:06.236 sort of its own individual design. The lights are their 0:23:06.236 --> 0:23:08.676 own little thing set into the body. It's not like 0:23:08.716 --> 0:23:13.196 that's smooth Scandinavian style where the lights are sort of 0:23:13.356 --> 0:23:16.436 wrapped around the body and like the same sort of 0:23:16.476 --> 0:23:20.076 form of the body. On this one, it's so smooth. 0:23:20.916 --> 0:23:25.476 It's so like global in a way, and so like 0:23:25.916 --> 0:23:29.996 built for Dubai. You go, is this thing does it 0:23:30.076 --> 0:23:34.156 really read as an English vehicle anymore? Well? If I 0:23:34.196 --> 0:23:37.436 put on my Landrover product planner hat for a moment, 0:23:37.476 --> 0:23:40.076 I would say that their response that I would probably 0:23:40.076 --> 0:23:44.476 be well that's what the defenders for if you or Discovery, 0:23:45.116 --> 0:23:48.396 if you want something that's a little bit more idiosyncratic 0:23:48.996 --> 0:23:53.756 style wise, whereas the range rover has always been this 0:23:54.116 --> 0:23:57.796 bejeweled thing, and this one is moving that further in 0:23:57.796 --> 0:24:01.956 that direction. But to your point, it'll still go off road. 0:24:02.156 --> 0:24:04.436 So if it'll still it'll still do all the silly 0:24:04.476 --> 0:24:08.956 things while looking like that. I can see how you 0:24:09.196 --> 0:24:12.956 say that puts it in the you're flossing in Dubai 0:24:13.556 --> 0:24:17.716