WEBVTT - Minnie Driver 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:07.840 Hey, everybody, thanks for pulling up a chair today on 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:11.560 Table for two. This is Bruce on a beautiful, hot, 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:15.320 so cool day, and we are not in Hollywood. 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:16.800 We are by the beach. 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:21.680 We're having lunch today in Santa Monica at the Shutters Hotel. 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:23.680 We so have a drink. 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:25.680 I wasn't getting it, but I've got to struggle all 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:27.800 the way back to Malibron, probably says again under the 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:28.240 full moon. 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:31.120 Today, we're having lunch with an actress that you all know. 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:35.559 She's not from the United States. She's actually from across 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:38.919 the Atlantic Ocean. You probably know her best from her 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:43.120 role in Goodwill Hunting, which is like quite the cult 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:44.440 classic at this point. 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:46.199 But she's busy. 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:48.960 She has two films opening in the Toronto Film Festival. 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:51.839 She's got an incredible podcast, she's written a memoir. 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:54.120 Oh wait a minute, No, you know what I want you? 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:55.200 I get a share the time. 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:57.480 That is sweetest drength. 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:06.560 Anyone's I'm able. We're having lunch today with Mini Driver. 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:10.480 Pull up a chair, enjoy, grab a glass rose on 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:12.800 this hot summer day, and. 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:14.759 We'll be back with Miss Driver. 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:20.839 I'm Bruce Bozzi and this is my podcast Table for Two. 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:31.080 Well, okay, if you've joined us today, if you've pulled 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:33.800 up a chair on Table for two today, we're in 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:37.120 a completely new space. We're at the Shutter's Hotel in 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:41.680 by the Beach, very fitting, as you will all find out. 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:48.040 An incredibly beautiful actress, woman, singer, writer. Your podcast blows 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:51.880 me away. We are having lunch with miss Minnie Driver. 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:53.520 Welcome to Table for two. 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:56.280 Thank you for having me, brit Oh my god, it's 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:58.280 a pleasure, lovely to be here. 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:03.720 Thank you. Okay, your surfer, Yeah, every day surfing. 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:04.840 When I'm here. Yeah, yeah. 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:07.600 And today we went out early because I was coming 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:13.120 here and my best friends Cameron, Cameron Richardson. 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:13.680 And Mini Mortimer. 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:16.320 I know, we never get surfed with each other because 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:19.959 everyone's the minute school goes back, everyone's blown to the winds. 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:22.800 So we went super early. I was up at six. 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:27.120 It is the most beautiful day, like those these kind 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:28.280 of dog days of summer. 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:32.680 The ocean is glassy, the air is like silk. 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:37.240 It's it's beautiful, pinky blue light that early in the morning, 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:41.800 and it was just us just trading waves. 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:46.800 And what is surfing? What feelings does it evoke for you? 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:48.240 It draws you to. 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:52.560 There is something about the confluence of. 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:59.400 Your body and your soul, the active feeling of the 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:02.519 strength that you need to have when you're surfing, the 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:05.600 wonder of your body as you're. 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:09.000 Flying down the face of this wave in harmony with 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:12.160 this unbelievably powerful ancient ocean. 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:16.520 That's as close as I've got to feeling my soul, 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:17.960 I mean, apart from honesty when my. 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:18.760 Son was born. 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:22.480 Those are the two great moments where I feel the 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:24.560 presence of something else. 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:27.000 Yeah, when I'm learning about you, where I've seen in 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:27.679 your eyes. 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:31.800 Is the importance of connection that you have with people 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:32.440 that you have. 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:34.240 And I don't surf for some reason. I have a 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:35.840 fear of it. I never learned it. I think, how 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:39.360 did you What was the first time You're like, I 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.360 want to do this. So you grew up in Great 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:42.720 Britain unit surfing the. 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:45.440 Well, the thing is, I actually I grew up a 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:48.360 lot in Barbados in the Caribbean, so I was in 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:52.920 the water, like genuinely before I could walk, I could swim, 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:56.000 and I have never had a fear of the water 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:59.200 and was so comfortable there. 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:00.480 From a really early age. 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:02.200 I was a big water skier, when I was a kid, 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:03.920 the surf was on the other side of the island, 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:09.360 so I never surfed. But I when I moved to California, 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:13.840 I began, not right away, but probably five or six 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:16.160 years after I moved here, and I've been surfing a. 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:19.880 Really long time. I am okay. I'm not even good. 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:23.599 I'm okay. I can hand on myself. I don't know 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:26.200 a huge amount about the full moon, but it's special. 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:26.599 I know. 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:28.599 I was going to do a little research today about 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:31.320 because you know, with your astrological sign, and. 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:35.320 I'm an aquarian, so it's an aquarius. This is an 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:36.280 aquarium full moon. 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:39.080 This is why, Yes, that's why I surfed last night 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:42.800 in the full moon and this morning, and why I'm 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:48.560 feeling a little bit like maybe I took mushrooms, like 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:53.240 a little tiny bit high in the most loving, beautiful, 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:56.920 existential way. I can only think that it is the 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:03.200 moon because normally I'm a little more harassed, and you. 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:05.840 Have no fear of being in the water in the 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:08.320 lat moon is going to make the water so right. 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:10.720 But we're going to wear glow sticks around our necks, 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:13.479 but it will be so light you sort of look 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:16.080 for the sliver of silver along the top of the wave, 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:18.640 so you can see it lining up when there's a 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:20.240 set coming and. 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:22.279 There's a huge amount of letting. 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:25.880 Go and just trusting, which I don't know, but I 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:28.960 think that having the opportunity to do that when it 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:32.719 presents itself, if I can do that, maybe it's like 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:33.720 mitigated risk. 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:36.520 But now my heart will be beating really fast. 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:52.039 You know, you've had such an interesting career. Your life 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:54.520 is very it's really interesting, and you've got you've been 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:56.680 through a lot. What was the path that sort of 0:05:57.080 --> 0:06:00.479 kept leading you with a light that's sort of bringing 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:05.960 you forward to eventually becoming a successful, very successful actors. 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:09.719 I went to a school and I grew up in 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:13.080 a place that helped me because I was not an 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:13.720 easy child. 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:17.560 I think I was hugely emotional and had. 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:20.359 A tough time focusing, needed to be physical all the time, 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:23.240 and this channel of creativity when I discovered that I 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:26.000 could write, and I had a teacher who supported that 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:30.080 hugely from the very beginning, from like nine ten years 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:34.880 old and acting and being in every play and music 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:38.360 and when I couldn't do math, my math teacher was 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:43.040 so extraordinary and he said, don't sit here, struggling, You're 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:44.520 going to suck all the attention from the rest of 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:47.440 the class. Go to the music school. I play music. 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:49.120 It's the same part of your brain. And then we'll 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:50.200 figure this out later. 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:52.920 Oh my god, I'm lucky you It helped. 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:57.159 Yeah, Suddenly there were these avenues that all of the 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:59.760 difficult things could be funneled into. And that's not to 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:02.559 say that they didn't remain difficult. But you can't stop 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:04.880 the hurricane, but you can know how to build a shelter. 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:10.120 So that and I was always aware of what an 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:11.640 unbelievable gift. 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:12.440 And opportunity it was. 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:16.960 No one can prepare you, because nobody really knows what 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:20.400 devastation lies ahead as well, and the price that you 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:23.000 will pay, and like what you're willing to sacrifice. And 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:26.440 in those moments of real turmoil and like huge slumps, 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:31.200 like in I suppose what is perceived success, those were 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:34.520 the moments of like incredible growing. And I think because 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:37.080 of the way that I was raised and my school, 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:40.160 even when I was in this agony of unemployment or 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:43.600 a broken heart or whatever, yeah, I knew I could 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:47.280 find my way out. Making things has always been. 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:47.560 Part of that. 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:50.960 Like I don't separate out like writing a book, from 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:54.680 like having the most incredible role in a TV show 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:58.600 or a movie, or writing music or performing music, like 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:04.200 it's all from the same crucible. Finding this tiny little 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:08.960 place by the beach in Malibu, my little tiny cottage 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:13.480 and surfing every day became a way of resetting all 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:16.520 of the other stuff that was asked of me as 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:18.200 a person with. 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:20.520 A profile that has to be maintained in a certain way. 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:24.120 Yeah, sure, your cottage. When you refer to your cottage, 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:27.920 I found this you're happy place. 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:28.280 Yeah. 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:32.360 Yeah, And that's where a lot of people never find it. 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:35.280 They keep searching for it. Did you know when you 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:36.640 saw it? Yes. 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:39.200 I has to get up super early, like you know, 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:42.480 four fifteen in the morning to be out first light 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:44.320 surf in the dark of Malibu when there was no 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:47.559 one out, and then maybe get like twenty or thirty 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:49.760 minutes in before the guys came out and I couldn't 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:52.520 get any more waves. And then really early I'd go 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:57.920 into Malibu and there was still overrun by insane stores 0:08:57.960 --> 0:08:59.480 and oh yeah, change now. 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:00.720 But it was there used to be a lot of 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:03.080 mom and power. There was this lovely girl who was 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:04.120 working in this shop. 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:06.120 It was like a boutique, and I just went in 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:08.959 there in my swimsuit and we were chatting, and I said, 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:13.439 how does someone who doesn't have sixty million dollars that's 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:14.440 how much they cost back there. 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:18.280 Now they're double that. What do you do? And she went, oh, 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:20.400 you can do it. My parents live up the way 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:22.680 and they live in this place, and you can come up. 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:24.280 My dad's going up with me. I'll show you. 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:27.800 We went up to this place, and the minute I 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:31.400 got out of the car, I know that there is 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:37.360 a lot of sacred land like in California and Native land, 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:39.120 and I know there's a lot of power in the land. 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:43.280 I can only tell you that it's such a house 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:48.160 that was this place, and I just rented their house. 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:49.840 They wanted to go on a cruise or something, these 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:51.880 friends of this girl who worked in the store, and 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:54.920 I rented their place for a couple months and was 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:57.760 crying when I left, and just said, look, if you 0:09:57.840 --> 0:09:59.400 ever want to sell this place, or if you ever 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:01.840 hear of any body that wants to sell their place, 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:03.200 will you just call me and let me know. 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:06.480 But at that time, everyone who. 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:08.480 Lived in this little community I live in, like lived 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:10.000 there like thirty forty fifty years. 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:12.480 You didn't sell them. They weren't. Like when I bought 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:13.400 my place. 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:16.120 I remember Jay Lenno making fun of me on his 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:18.719 talk shirt because I live in this place, and I 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:21.959 just remember laughing and going, sure, this is going to 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:24.480 keep everybody away. No one's gonna I was like, yeah, sure, 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:28.080 it's it sucks, it's terrible, it's not swanky, and it's 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:31.040 not You're absolutely right, nobody should come and live there. 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:34.240 And kept them away for a while. And now, oh 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:36.719 my god, studio heads. 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:40.760 And directors and it's just bananas. 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:41.040 Now. 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:43.240 I guess they're the and I'm sure it makes money, 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:44.720 and the first are incredibly high. 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:48.160 But what we've lost is this community that we used 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:52.280 to have around the actual lumberyard, around the movie theater, 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:53.640 around the ice cream store. 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:57.320 There was a skate park. It's now a whole foods like. 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:01.640 It's so it's it's so difficult if you don't defend 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:06.040 the things that actually keep your new together societally. 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:09.120 And I'm a huge believer in community. I've seen what 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:10.719 it does to people in terms of. 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:16.559 Rehabilitating individuals and families and keeping us kind of you're 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:18.160 right connected and that. 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:18.800 The minute you. 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:21.280 Get rid of that's when you get so much dissolutions 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:26.600 and division, and these schisms are created where you're just 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:28.079 reacting to somebody. 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:30.120 Because of the amount of money they have, not because of. 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:33.840 The conversation you had completely, you know, standing outside the coffee. 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:38.120 Shop, right, completely and inevitably, And what's so horrible about that? 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:40.800 In Malibu and I've seen it, you know, we would 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:42.280 go out. I grew up on the East Coast, but 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:44.840 like in the early seventies, they were all five, five 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:47.120 and dime shops and it was one big movie theater. 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:48.960 It was like drive ins and all that stuff. 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:51.760 And over time, of course, that's all gone away, very 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:57.520 very similar. Prices are exorbitant, can't afford it, The people 0:11:57.520 --> 0:11:59.440 that grew up there can't live there. But you use 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:04.920 the specialness of that walking across the street going to 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:07.360 the ice cream parlor, knowing the guy that owns it, 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:09.600 the multi generational family that. 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:12.360 Has has that can and and I. 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:15.920 Think that's a huge issue here that we're having as 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:18.920 far as community and in America. 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:20.760 It's a microlo exactly that, right. 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:22.720 I always keep saying that it has to be a pivot, 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:25.320 There has to be a pivot. So yes, many, I 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:28.480 think keep on wanting to call you a million. You 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:34.959 can so beautiful a million. Dad calls really okay, so 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.679 I'm gonna call you a million, so Amelia. So I 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:42.320 think it comes down now to individual choices that you're 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:44.600 going to live a life that you're gonna get as 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:47.560 close to that as you can. It's just you have 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:52.640 your cottage, your relationship with the people in your life, 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:55.880 and you just have to we have to just bring 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:58.600 it into our own lives because it's gone. We can't 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:01.040 get back because that lumber yard is now that or 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:15.360 that thing is now condoms. 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:27.480 Thanks for joining us on Table for two. Our guest, 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:31.440 Mini Driver, is very busy these days. She has two 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:35.880 movies premiering in September, an amazing podcast called Many Questions, 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:39.200 and is playing Queen Elizabeth on the second season of 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:43.160 The Serpent Queen. I'm curious what true her to playing 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:45.280 a character from history. 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:49.240 You're very busy, honestly, I know that The Surper Queen 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:53.360 dropped season two, Dar, so you have that, but like 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:56.200 you know, you make reference to wanting to play Queen 0:13:56.200 --> 0:14:01.040 Elizabeth and in your family to that the family play role. 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:02.280 Was there anything that. 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:06.040 It was interesting my dad. I mean, yeah, they did. 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:11.480 And my dad used to play polo with King Charles 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:14.840 because my dad had a polo teach, so I knew 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:18.280 him that the polo. I knew this very nice, lovely, 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:23.280 polite gentleman who I knew was somebody important. The royal 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:25.800 family is very present in the UK, like when you're 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:28.480 growing up, and no matter if your dad plays a 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:31.760 rarefied sport with the future King of England, you were 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:36.160 aware of them all the time, And certainly with Queen Elizabeth. 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:39.480 I remember when we learned about her in school when 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:42.800 I was around seven or eight years old. I couldn't 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:46.920 believe that we were talking about a queen who was 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:49.360 so long ago. And I remember my teacher. I was like, 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:52.120 why are we still talking about her? And she was like, 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:57.400 I know, right, because she's that powerful and that cool. 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:00.040 And I became a little bit obsessed with her. 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:02.840 Right, that's some way to look at it. Why are 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:05.040 we still talking about her? And then you're teaching me 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:06.120 like can you believe? 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:08.880 By the way, that was essentially what my English teachers 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:12.400 said about Shakespeare when it was always on the curriculum 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:13.320 for all of our exams. 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:15.040 I was like, why is it always Shakespeare? Why is 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:16.280 it not you. 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:19.560 Know, Ben Johnson, why are him? And he was like, 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:21.200 because he's so fucking good. 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:24.360 There's nobody better. That's why. 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:26.720 What did you love about playing? Like when you got 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:27.880 the opportunity to play. 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:30.880 Her, I just love the way they said. Justin Hayes 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:34.560 honestly is for me, one of the great writers working today. 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:38.280 He is a genius writer. And his take on Elizabeth, 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:42.080 on this idea of these powerful women. Have to remember 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:45.720 that at that period in history, women couldn't even own 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:48.360 own anything, not just property. 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:51.480 They couldn't in nineteen seventy five. 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:59.200 Exactly, it's banana. It's like the because women themselves were chattel. 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:02.560 So first of all, there's like this whole female experience, 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:05.520 and then you suddenly have these queens. You have Captain 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:08.080 de Medici in France and you have Queen Elizabeth in England, 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:12.480 and they were friends over letters, even though apparently they 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:14.320 never met, but we don't know for sure. There was 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:18.680 something about the unicornness of a woman being in that 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:23.160 position and the fact that she had the longest reign 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:27.800 until Elizabeth. Second, how she did that? Like who that 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:30.040 person is? What you have to do, and the idea 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:33.120 that she wasn't a sexual creature, the idea that she 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:37.320 wasn't you know who this woman was. I've started to 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:41.000 become really interested in who the woman is behind the crown, 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:44.680 because we all know the crown is a thing, it's 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:47.960 an entity, it's an emblem, and it's a duty, and 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:50.800 it's a facade. So we became really interested in what 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:54.200 was behind that, and Justin Haige was really interested in 0:16:54.240 --> 0:17:00.080 exploring what the public face of her looked like and 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:03.960 then starting to get into what the woman behind that was. 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:06.240 And I wish I could have done it for a 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:07.919 lot longer because I feel like we were just getting 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:11.639 started to really start seeing. She has this great speech 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:13.679 at the end of one of the scenes with Captain 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:19.600 Medicci where she's I'm paraphrasing, but she's like, look, we 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:23.479 are brands, right. I must pose as a virgin and 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:25.240 you as a witch to get what we want. 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:29.320 This is just fucking business. This is how it is. 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:31.680 It's amazing awareness of that. 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:35.560 Then, yeah, of course there was stuff going on behind 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:36.120 the scenes. 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:37.119 Of course there was. 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:42.960 It really is, and this idea that it's also persisted, 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:45.639 the idea that you can't have sex unless you're married. 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:47.480 Because she never got married, she must have been a 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:50.919 virgin queen. It's no So I love evolving that idea. 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:54.080 I love the exploration of Elizabeth as a woman, and 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:55.400 I know it can only be. 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:58.600 Imagined because we don't know. 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:08.280 Pivoting. 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:11.800 I want to talk about your podcast because I think 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:13.640 it's such a joy to listen to you if you're 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:19.840 not listening to Mini's podcast. You've picked seven questions that 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:22.160 you've consistently asked your guests on your show. 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:24.879 So one is how do you pick a guest? 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:29.679 And then has there been a consistent sort of human 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:34.160 behavior that you've seen that we share even though we're 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:35.440 all different. 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:40.760 Yeah, well, essentially that what you said, because what I 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:44.399 like is the. 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:45.320 The idea if you create. 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:50.080 A sort of constricted environment, which the same seven questions 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:54.320 is a particular discipline. So what that does is it 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:58.000 it makes people feel safe, and then it also makes 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:02.159 them feel like they're in control. I've noticed is the 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:04.560 thing amount of people is. That's a really good place 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:09.240 to begin from. But those questions, I realized they're just 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:13.280 tinder to ignite that the way someone thinks about the world, 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:17.040 And so there's so much that's revealed. But it's a 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:18.920 great place to begin because people feel I think it's 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:21.560 very manageable, which is why they they've had had some. 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:25.560 Really truly, because it doesn't. 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:29.919 Matter how much somebody prepares your selfdom seeps out. So 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:33.320 someone will answer their question and then I'll ask a 0:19:33.400 --> 0:19:36.159 follow up and then suddenly. 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:37.199 All is revealed. 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:41.080 Or some people don't like to see the questions beforehand, 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:44.320 and I'll ask a question and out will bubble. This 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:47.639 amazing response has been triggered by something that happened that 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:48.200 very day. 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:51.199 But the essential idea of. 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:54.040 The show I think makes people feel it's completely manageable. 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:56.159 I don't have to sit there and they're not going 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:57.719 to ask me about my love life. They're not going 0:19:57.760 --> 0:19:59.920 to ask me about this there or the other. 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:00.639 I don't know. 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:03.399 I guess I always felt Q and as I loved 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:05.359 doing those kind of interviews, I was like, send me 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:08.200 a set of questions that I can sit and think back. 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:08.840 Yeah. 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:13.080 The reason that I why I launched a lunch that's 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:14.000 we're in person. 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:17.480 It's because I feel like because it's basically the same thing. 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:22.280 There's a romance in a meal, there's a intimacy with 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:26.800 eye contact, and inevitably I might definitely know, like, oh 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:29.800 I want to hear about your films coming out in Toronto. 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:32.480 I'm gonna throw out the Serpent Queens, you know, season two. 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:34.760 You know you have put the professional pieces of you. 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:41.520 But inevitably we are talking about other things because we 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:45.639 have taken the time to connect is to humans for 0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:50.560 this moment, and I think that's things are revealed that 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:56.680 are beautiful or kind or emotional, and that's really that's 0:20:56.720 --> 0:20:57.280 all we got. 0:20:58.040 --> 0:20:58.840 It really is. 0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:11.680 You've had such a career and if you're looking at 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:17.840 Famelia now looking back, how have you navigated this decade 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:20.520 of our life? I happened things are very important and 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:21.920 an incredible decade. 0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:26.520 It is like the big And I always used to 0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:30.560