1 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: What is going on? Everyone? Welcome to bring out with 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: John Little Coop on Colin POWERD Podcasts Network. Back at 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: it again. Big show coming up. Had a special guest, 4 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: uh Andy Reid, the head coach of the KANCI Chiefs, 5 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: former head coach in Philadelphia Eagles, one of the in 6 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: my experience, the nice guy in the NFL, one of 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: the best coaches in the NFL. Will join me coming 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: up here in a minute. Uh subscribe rate review on iTunes. 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: Later after the interview, I'll get into a bunch of questions. 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: Like I said, you leave questions in the review section 11 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: and I will get to them on the show. You guys, 12 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: let left a bunch of good ones this week, and 13 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: uh we'll hammer that out after the interview. But first 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: I gotta start with this big news Monday was Khalil 15 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: Mack did not show up. No showed to John Gruden's 16 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: first day on the job with the Oakland Raiders. Odell Beckham, 17 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: actually Curveball did show up on Monday. But I don't 18 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: view Khalil Mack and Odell Beckham at the same situation. 19 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: I view Odell Beckham as his own little entity, as 20 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: someone that needs to impress the Giants and kind of 21 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: earned some respectability internally and show that he's consistent. And 22 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: then Aaron Donald and Khalil Mack as basically the faces 23 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: of the franchise, the two best players on the team. Uh. 24 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald last year went through a long hold out. 25 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: Remember he didn't show up at all in the off season, 26 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: that didn't show up in training camp, and then missed 27 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: a couple of games. Kalil, I was a little shock 28 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: he didn't show up, but it was on the right 29 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: business move. And I really don't understand what the Rams 30 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: and what the Raiders are doing. I went through a 31 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: couple of years ago when I bought a place in 32 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: the Bay Area that has historic housing prices right now. 33 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: It was it was a difficult process. You have to 34 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: bid fifty sixty seventy thousand dollars over the asking price, 35 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: and it's hard to really wrap your head around it. 36 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: Finally I got a place well over asking price, and then, 37 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: you know what, I realized six months later my place 38 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: had appreciated by you know that fifty I had made 39 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: my money back immediately. And when you look at Khalil 40 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: Mack and Aaron Donald, what what are these two organizations 41 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: arguing over. These two guys have been all pros basically 42 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: from the moment they showed up, been the face of 43 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: the franchise, from the way they carried themselves, the way 44 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: they've acted, the way they've worked, been zero problems. That's 45 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: why I don't put them in the same boat as 46 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham. They have not been a pain in the ass. 47 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: If anything, they've been the opposite. They've been stone cold 48 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: ass kickers and just fantastic Hall of Fame level players. 49 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: So to me, I I say it all the time. 50 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: I'm one of the rare guys in the media. Most 51 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: of the media, I think at their core is kind 52 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: of anti big business, so they're kind of pro employee, 53 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: and that means in sports pro player. I'm not really 54 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: pro player. I'm really pro big busines this I think 55 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: about it from a front office standpoint, I'm anti player. 56 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: Beside my quarterback and maybe two or to three percent 57 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: of my roster and Khalil Mcin Aaron Donald fall in 58 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: that little small percent of the pie. I treat them 59 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: a little differently than everyone else. I always say I 60 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: want to be fluid with the majority of my roster, 61 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: but there are certain guys that come across you know, 62 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: your team or a draft every so often that are 63 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: just game changing special non quarterbacks. You saw it back 64 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: in the day with the Ray Lewis is and the 65 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: Ed Reid's, uh, you see it. I think Julio Jones 66 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: is that level player. I actually think Antonio Brown's that 67 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: level player. There's a small percentage of guys, uh in 68 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: the NFL non quarterbacks that that I consider that. You know, 69 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: every team may have one or two, you know Seattle 70 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: when they were really special, maybe had three hide beside 71 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: the quarterback. And I think you treat them differently. And 72 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: I don't think you penny pinch with them, Khalil mcine 73 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: or not. If just if you're arguing right now over 74 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: giving them seventy million guaranteed, just just give them seventy 75 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: seventy four. Make them happy, make them happy employees, because 76 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: you know what, in a year or two, those contracts 77 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: will be dwarfed. We've seen the history of this thing. 78 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: The salary cap has risen by like an average of 79 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: ten million dollars for the last five years. The NFL 80 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: revenue is not slowing down. It's only rising. These contracts 81 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: when you sign them now, and I learned this when 82 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: I bought my house, was like, oh, I can't believe 83 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: how much I just paid for that. Well two years later, 84 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: my house is worth a lot more than I paid 85 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: for it. In the NFL is exactly like that, And 86 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: I think you look at forty is the way they 87 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: handled Jimmy Garoppolo. They overpaid just when you factor in 88 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: you know how many starts he'd had, his production. But 89 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: the moment that contract was signed, it kind of was 90 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: a deal, you know, because then what happened. Kirk Cousins 91 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: got way more money. Jimmy Garoppolo is a better player, 92 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: like just signed Aaron Donald signed Khalil Mack. Like I 93 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: I would not have wanted to start my off season 94 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: activities with John Gruden, who's setting the tone for my organization, 95 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: and have Khalil Mack, you know, a top two or 96 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: three player in the entire NFL not there. And I 97 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: don't blame Klil back and again like I say, I'm 98 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: anti players. If O'Dell Beckham would have showed up, I 99 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: would have been like, I don't know if that's the 100 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: right move. Khalil made the right move. Aaron Donald as 101 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: well should not show up. I put this on the organization. 102 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: Why why would you put your players in that position 103 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: to even have to make that decision. I mean that 104 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: they should be taken care of light quarterbacks because that's 105 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: the importance to your team, especially when they do everything 106 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: you can possibly ask of a team captain of a 107 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: you know, franchise changing defensive player, of a Hall of 108 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: Fame level guy. And you're arguing right now over you know, 109 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: not a lot of money to me and you when 110 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: we talk about a million or two million dollars put 111 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of thing, it's not that big 112 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: of a deal. You know, just take care of them, 113 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: make them happy, And I would not for both these 114 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: two organizations. One has a brand new coach and the 115 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: expectations are sky high, and the Rams have basically taken 116 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: the super Bowl or bust approach. Well, if you're in 117 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: super Bowl bust approach, you better have to make sure 118 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: your best player is around every moment the team is together. 119 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: If not, you're doing yourself a disservice because what you're 120 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: arguing over, you know, extra million dollar bonus or an 121 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: extra two or three million dollars guaranteed on the contract. 122 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: You wouldn't do that with the quarterback. Just I would 123 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: treat these guys a little bit like the quarterback and 124 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: right now, I think the Raiders made a mistake by 125 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: not getting this thing done before John Gruden addressed the 126 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: team for the first time. And if this contract you'll 127 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: hear this on Wednesday, you know they have basically deal Sunday. 128 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: I think till the Rams report on Monday is not done. 129 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: For Aaron Donald, You're just doing your team a disservice 130 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: and it's it's a mistake by the organization to not 131 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: put a higher priority on the importance. I would have 132 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: put a higher priority on both these two guys before 133 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: free agency ever started again. If I have to overpay 134 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: a little bit, I would. I just I'm struggling to 135 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: wrap my head around with what these organizations are thinking 136 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: they're really gonna save by just arguing and listen, I'm 137 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: pro tough negotiations. I understand in business you never just 138 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: give money away, but there are certain level of employees 139 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: when you're talking about what they produce and the return 140 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: on investment. It's pretty well established through four years, the 141 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: return on investment you get with these two guys like 142 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: they are worth whatever you're paying them, whether it's twenty 143 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: million a year guaranteed or whether it's you know whatever, 144 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: they're working contract. They've earned every penny and then doubled it. 145 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: I just don't like it, and I think it's a mistake. 146 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: And listen, I'm I wouldn't pay. For example, I think 147 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: Levian Bell is a great player. I think you might 148 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: be the best running back in the league. I wouldn't 149 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: give a big time contract. He's been suspended, he's been injured. 150 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: That's not the case with these two guys. He also, 151 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: Levian plays a position that's pretty easily replaceable. Good luck 152 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: finding an elite defensive lineman. I can find ten running 153 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: backs in the draft this draft. We think Bradley chub 154 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: is gonna be a stud. But if he's not, there's 155 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: a chance this draft doesn't pump out one elite defensive lineman. 156 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: It's supplied demand, and these guys are the elite of 157 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: the elite at the second most important position in the 158 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: league beside quarterback. Pass rusher. Take care of her. Set 159 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: the tone right now to lead in to this offseason 160 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: to both these two teams. You're trying to win a 161 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: super Bowl. Every minute your team is together. How would 162 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 1: you not want your best player around. If you have 163 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: John Gruden, you're paying him a hundred million dollars. How 164 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: would you not want arguably the most talented defensive player 165 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: your France has had in thirty plus years, maybe beside 166 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: Charles Woodson in your building around. I just I think 167 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: it's a mistake. I think both these two teams are 168 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: just taking your typical NFL negotiation, which I am for. 169 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: It's the best business league of the three major sports 170 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: by a mile, the way they do their contracts, how 171 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: fluid they stay with their players, and the ability to 172 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: always get rid of them. But these two guys I 173 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: would approach with with the quarterback mindset. I'm gonna lock 174 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: them up. I'm gonna take care of them. I'm gonna 175 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: break them off pretty heavily, way as way I would 176 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: not do other guys. But I'm gonna feel good about 177 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: it because the moment that contracts signed, I know I 178 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: have one of the best players in the league under 179 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: team control at a premium. But I know that he 180 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: also produces at a premium. So Rams Raiders get these 181 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: contracts done. What What the hell are you doing? Okay, 182 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: very very excited to introduce my guests. The head coach 183 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: of the Kansas City chiefs Andy Reid. What's going on, coach? 184 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: Everything's good, John, Yeah, Um, we're just getting ready for 185 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: the draft. You know how that goes. Yeah. Um, spent 186 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 1: a lot of time with that, so you, uh, it's 187 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: a little different this year, right because you don't have 188 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: a first round pick, you don't pick till fifty four? 189 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: Does it change for you at all? I know, meetings wise, 190 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: for each and everything, they approach it the same way. 191 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: But the way you watch players do you kind of 192 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: just throw away a certain group knowing that it's kind 193 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: of a waste your time, or you just go about 194 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: it the way you normally would. Yeah. So what what 195 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: I've done here that's different than when we were together 196 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia is I just watched the guys that that 197 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: Brett gives me. I don't watch everybody. And uh and 198 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: when v tells me to jump, I say how high? 199 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: And and give him to give him whatever evaluations he 200 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: wants off of that off of that player. Um, it 201 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: makes it a lot easier for me to concentrate on 202 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: the football part of it and being able to do 203 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: what I really love doing. And that's that. And so 204 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: it's a it's a little different dynamic than when we 205 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: were together before. So you don't necessarily if he doesn't 206 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 1: bring you. Obviously this year with my homes, you wouldn't 207 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: be in the quarterback market. You're not watching those those 208 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: top guys. I'm not watching the top you know. Listen, 209 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 1: I cheated on it a little bit, but but the 210 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: but not much. Um, not like I would have uh 211 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: with Patrick, so uh some of the guys that might 212 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: go a little bit lower, I've spent a little time 213 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: on and then they're just there's probably five or six 214 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: of them that that Brett had given me and just said, hey, listen, 215 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: if if we're if we get down there, we we uh, 216 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: you know, we need a quarterback. Then this might be 217 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: a guy we could bring in and tutor and and 218 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: uh and see how things go down the road from there. 219 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: But we you know, we we signed we signed a 220 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: couple of quarterbacks there in the off season with Henny 221 00:11:54,640 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: and mcglohan. So, um, Matt's working as that third guy. 222 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 1: So he um remember that game over that game we 223 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: played in UH in Oakland a couple of years back, 224 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: when Jamal had the five touchdowns on the screen passes. 225 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: He was a quarterback for Oakland Wheel Routes of the 226 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: Cows Come Home. Oh my goodness, he had a heck 227 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: of a game against US, so I told him I 228 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: was glad to get him on our side. When you 229 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: peeked at these quarterbacks and you cheated. Obviously they're highly 230 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: talked about because the two guys played in l A. 231 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: I've watched a lot of the two pack twelve guys. 232 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: It seems like a pretty good class coach. And obviously 233 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: Baker a little undersize, but he's a damn good football player. Yeah, 234 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: he's a gamer. So I, um, yeah, I think it's 235 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: a It's another good year for course. I love I 236 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: love the fact that these kids are throwing the football now. 237 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: So when I was growing up, the colleges were running 238 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: the ball, uh quite a little bit, and so you 239 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: didn't have the opportunity to see these guys throw the 240 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: ball as much as you do today. Even though it 241 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: might be a little bit different scheme, they're they're still 242 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: having to read defenses and still having to throw the 243 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: ball on time to get it to their to their receivers, 244 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: and and uh, it makes it a little bit easier 245 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: to to evaluate. In my humble opinion, on that. So 246 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: it's fair to say when you were when you were 247 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 1: looking at my homes, you didn't mind when he was 248 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: having those attempt games. You kind of like that even 249 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: even if it is pass routes, then you necessarily would run. No. 250 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: I did, um, So what I what I did was 251 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: I took all those quick screens and I kicked them 252 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: out of the evaluation process and then kind of categorized 253 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: all of his throws and I thought were somewhat similar 254 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: to ones that we do and evaluated those. And you've 255 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: got to go back through and look at the whole 256 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: game and do that. But but to get down to 257 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: the fine points of if we're going to take this kid, 258 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: you know, or if we're lucky enough to get him 259 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: through the draft to Kansas City, that at least have 260 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: a step up maybe on coaching, I'm on things that 261 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: on the fundamental part of it, as opposed to just 262 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: the actual routes. You know, I heard you talk to 263 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: the owners meetings just about what Alex meant to Patrick, 264 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: And when I talked to Naggy at the combine, he 265 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: hammered that home. Just how how when the relationships started 266 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: with Mahome during basically O t a s. There's a 267 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: little tension, like naturally there would be, but by the 268 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: end of that playoff game, Alex was leaning on him, 269 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: and you know, it's a testament to both of those guys. 270 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: Do you think the growth of my Homes throughout the 271 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: season you would have felt as comfortable making the trade 272 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: if it wouldn't have been for that start that he was. Luckily, 273 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: just the way it all set up, and you guys 274 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: had a spot clinched, you were able to kind of 275 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: just use that game as a not a preseason game, 276 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: but as a rep game for him because it didn't 277 00:14:54,760 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: matter for your standings. Yeah, I thought that was I 278 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: thought that was great for him and Mike Calco to boot. 279 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: So what we did there was I had Matt Naggy, 280 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: Brad Children's and Alex Smith work on the teams that 281 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: we might play and really was narrow data too, just 282 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: about right there. So, uh, take a peek at at 283 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: the Ravens and Tennessee who we were going to play 284 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: the following week, and then uh, Mike Calfka, uh, Patrick 285 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: Mahomes and myself we could kind of focus in on 286 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: the on the Broncos, and I knew that the Broncos 287 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: start all their guys, and and I had we had 288 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: a bunch of those those kids over in the Pro Bowl, Uh, 289 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: some of their their real good defensive players the year before. 290 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: And I knew how competitive they were. They were competitive 291 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: in that game, and I knew they would be competitive here. 292 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: And I knew they'd want to send a message to 293 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: Patrick if they thought that Patrick was going to be 294 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: the next guy. So and that's the way they approached it, 295 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: you know there, Uh, you know, it's a tribe, it 296 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: to them and how much say enjoy playing football. So, um, 297 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: I'm talking about Denver. And so they came out they 298 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: were they were going to give give Patrick their best shot. 299 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: So in our preparation that week, UM, I really felt 300 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: good coming out of it. I thought Mike calcultive phenomenal 301 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: job of preparing Patrick for the game, that Patrick prepared himself, 302 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time at it, and and uh, 303 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: I came out of my Friday meeting with him and 304 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm going, you know what we're gonna get after these guys. 305 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I really, I really felt good about it. 306 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: And then we got in the game, I'm going, jeez, 307 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: he's uh, he's really got a good way about him. 308 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: And every quarterback does it different and and and they've 309 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: all got their opinion, you know, how they handled that 310 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: pressure of the game. It's all a little bit different. 311 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: But it was a pretty smooth operation. And I had 312 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: to look back and say, listen, Uh, he was so 313 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: fortunate to be in that room with Alex, because nobody 314 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: prepares better than that. I mean, that's just he goes 315 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: into it and and uh, he's brilliant to start with, 316 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: and then as he goes about his business, he he's 317 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: not going to leave any stone unturned and um. And 318 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: so Patrick was able to see that firsthand and see 319 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: the time and dedication effort that it takes to do that, 320 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: not only not only in the classroom, but in the 321 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 1: weight room with the food that he ate and so on. 322 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: So it was just a very valuable lesson for Patrick. 323 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: How does that change because obviously having Alex, you know, 324 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: for five years, you know, he going into O T 325 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: A S. He knew exactly what was expected, what to prepare, 326 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: how the meetings would be installed. Does that change a 327 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: little bit this year with you know, Alex isn't the 328 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: guy in that huddle anymore. It's it's Mahome's repping with 329 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: the Ones. Does that change for you and the coaching staff? Yeah, 330 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: you know, we didn't. We didn't change much. And I listen, 331 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: I communicated with him during the week when we prepared 332 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: for that game. If you wanted to cut some things out, 333 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: I was okay with that. I mean, I understood things 334 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: get a little wordy in this offense, but he didn't 335 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: want to do that. He told me to think he 336 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: was comfortable with but he didn't want to cut back 337 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: on the volume. And so that's the way we're gonna 338 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: come into the into the O t A S. We're 339 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: gonna come in with with it fully loaded. And and uh, 340 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: let's see what he what he can digest. He's innately 341 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: a real smart kid, and uh, he picks things up 342 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: so easy, Um that I don't think we really have 343 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: to scale back. Uh. He was in there as we 344 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 1: progressed through the year and and uh seemed to Billy Hamilton, 345 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: and I think you'll be fine going into this offseason. 346 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: I know one guy you gotta be pretty excited to 347 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: work with here coming up next week. And when Richard 348 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: Sherman signed with the Niners, I threw on the ram 349 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 1: Seattle game and there was Sammy Watkins flying about ninety 350 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: miles an hour down the field. Sammy Watkins seems like 351 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: your type guy. I would imagine you've had an eye 352 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 1: on him as he came out of college. Someone might 353 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: call him, you know, underachieved a little bit, battled some injuries, 354 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: but there's no disputing the raw talent. Yeah, John, I 355 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:14,959 Speaker 1: mean that that's a hard thing because these kids, um, um, 356 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: they get hurt and it's kind of out there their 357 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: hands if they get hurt in some situations. So I 358 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: I think that's, um, I think that's Sammy's situation. Now, 359 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: he listened. He has to stay healthy, right, He's gonna 360 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: be able to do that and get through the season 361 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: like he did last year. But you sure love his attitude. 362 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: My goodness, Uh any time? Yeah, yeah, No, he's true 363 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: us in the red zone. He can really pluck the 364 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: ball pretty well. But every time I've talked to him, 365 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: he's either working out or he's with his family. So 366 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: I mean that's a that's a good start for me. 367 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,959 Speaker 1: I'm good with that, and I can't wait to get 368 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 1: him up here and uh and get him going. I 369 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: know he's chomping at the to do that Uh. He 370 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: and Patrick have talked and and so on, so they 371 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 1: are on the same page there on what they need 372 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: to get done once we get started. So um, that's exciting. Yeah, 373 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: that's exciting. And we've got Tyreek on the other side, 374 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: who uh, we have some speed, right, we have some 375 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: speed and quickness and all that, and we gotta we've 376 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: gotta utilize it the right way and so on. But 377 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: then we've got a lot of work ahead of us. 378 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: But but that's what it's all about, and that's the 379 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: front part of this thing. So these guys are eager 380 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: to get going. They want to play with each other. 381 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: You mixed Kelson in the in the in the batch 382 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: and everybody. Everybody kind of forget about Chris Connley. Chris 383 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: Conley was really coming on last year too. So yeah, 384 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: and and then we've got this young runner here with 385 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt and Spencer wear has a chance to come 386 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: back after a pretty devastating injury. So um. But the 387 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: one thing they know is they know work and they're 388 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: not afraid of that. And so we we've gotta we've 389 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: gotta get busy on it and kind of put this 390 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: thing together and and uh, and so we can come 391 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: up with, uh for this year. Well, you know that 392 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: your division, especially on the offensive side going against some 393 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: of these defenses, are fantastic. And starting here in my 394 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: neck of the woods. You're good, buddy. When it when 395 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: it became obvious that ESPN was calling your playoff game, 396 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: you know, everyone wondered what Andy Reid led John Gruden 397 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: into the building, and uh, did you give him a 398 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: fake playbook or anything to get to get ready for 399 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: the off season to kind of throw them off? Now, John, 400 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: I you know, we started off together about twenty seven 401 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: years ago, seven or whatever. It was a lot of 402 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: years ago, and um, and so we stayed very close since, 403 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: uh you know since then and um and so, Uh No, 404 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: I didn't listen, I didn't hide anything. I wanted to 405 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: come in, come on, it's all right, see what we've got. 406 00:21:55,960 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I'm excited to these back in 407 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: the back in coaching. And I think he's good for 408 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: the National Football League. He was good for it announce it. 409 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: But I think he's good for it, even better for 410 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: it when he's coaching. And um, I look forward to 411 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: to that competition and and he knows what we do. 412 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 1: I kind of know the direction that he's probably gonna 413 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,719 Speaker 1: go here, and and uh and so it should be 414 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: just great. It should be great competition. Nothing like the 415 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: Raiders men in the Chiefs. Oh no, no, no, no, man, 416 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: it's it'll be rolling, will be rolling in Oakland, will 417 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: be rolling in Kansas City, and and that's what this 418 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: thing is all about. You've had some you've lost a couple, 419 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: but you also had to win I think two years 420 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: ago where you caused three turnovers in the fourth courp. 421 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: You've had some great games in the in the black hole. 422 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: What what's it like being the Chiefs head coach coming 423 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 1: into the black hole and we don't have it much longer, coach, No, no, 424 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: I know, but they'll they'll get a black hole in 425 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: Vegas too. I mean that's what today. Um, it won't 426 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: be quite the same, but it's um, the original is 427 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: always a tad better, but they yuh um, that's a 428 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: that's a great experience. And and that call of c 429 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's old and so it's uh, I kind 430 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: of like it. I don't mind it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 431 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: it's a it's a relic and and uh kinvin neat deal. 432 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: I think locker rooms a little bit for you, what's 433 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: the locker rooms a little a little old for the 434 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: It's a little small, is what it is. That locker 435 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,479 Speaker 1: room is tiny. But yeah, that's a but we've had 436 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: some battles are and in our you know the thing 437 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: against that. There's a great friendship and respect between Bob 438 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: Sutton and John and so those two go way back. 439 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: And actually John Gruden was one of the guys who recommended, uh, 440 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: Bob Sutton to me and so when I came here, 441 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: so it's uh, they'll they'll have their little battle going 442 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: on too. Did Gruden ask you and all before he 443 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: took the job? I know you were a big fan 444 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: of Derek coming out and then worked with him at 445 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl and obviously having a scheme against number 446 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: fifty two Khalil Mackets no walk in the park, ask 447 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: you at all about the roster or anything before taking 448 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: the job. Now you know what he really didn't. He 449 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: knew I was, I was close to Jack del Rio 450 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: two and um, and we we all have the same agent. 451 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: So it's a crazy world, Bob Lamont there so, but no, 452 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: we we didn't. We didn't talk about about personnel there 453 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: um and really didn't really even give me a heads 454 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: up that that you know, I mean we all kind 455 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 1: of knew, but we we didn't go into all that, 456 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 1: and that was one thing we kind of stayed away from. 457 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: What do you think about Derek? I know you have 458 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: played against him a bunch of these last several years. 459 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: You've seen his best and he struggled a little bit 460 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: this year. Did you notice anything while playing him? You 461 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: just maybe injured or you know, he had a bad 462 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: year coming off he was born line the m v 463 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: P two years ago before he broke his ankle. Yeah, listen, 464 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: I who knows. I mean, that's a there's a fine 465 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: line in this thing between women and losing. Then there's 466 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: also that fine line between having a good year and 467 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: a bad year. And so, um, I'm sure he'll be 468 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: back on and that's what we're expecting, and that's the 469 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: way we're gonna prep ourselves that he'll be ready to 470 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: roll and and and uh be pretty good. Yeah, they 471 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: beat us the first game, so it's uh, he was 472 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: doing pretty good there, and so we we seem to 473 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: get his best and we'll make sure that we prepare 474 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: ourselves right for that. Do you get a lot of 475 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: sleepless nights going against these pass rushers in the f 476 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: C West, seems like every team has a potential Hall 477 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 1: of Famer. Yeah. That's kind of a neat deal, though, 478 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: isn't it. Yeah Yeah, yeah, I mean we're lucky to 479 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,479 Speaker 1: have a couple too, and we've been blessed there and uh, 480 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: and so you've got to make sure your tackles are 481 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: are good and we've got a couple of pretty good 482 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: tackles here, so um. But but it's it's a challenge, 483 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: surely is a challenge in and uh but that competition, man, 484 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 1: that that's what's awesome about it. And and you get 485 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: in there and you have to kind of scheme things 486 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: up just a little bit different when you've got two 487 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: of them and you can't it's hard to double both 488 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,479 Speaker 1: of them, right, And you've got to really work your 489 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: scheme the right way. And it's a it's a great challenger. 490 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: How much do you pay attention to the off season 491 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: just some of the free agent moves that the Raiders 492 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: or the Broncos sign a quarterback or just little things 493 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: the Chargers do. Is that is that something that you 494 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: keep an eye on? Yeah, you can't help it, I 495 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: mean absolutely, I mean that's all part of this thing. 496 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: I kind of like seeing what people are doing and 497 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: how they how they go about building their teams. I'm 498 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 1: interested in that. I'm a junkie with that kind of stuff. 499 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: So UM, I like watching and and seeing, and there's 500 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: been some pretty good moves. I think the UM the 501 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 1: vision is really strengthened itself. I thought the young coaches 502 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: that came in last year with Denver and UM and 503 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: the Chargers l A. I thought they did, uh did 504 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 1: a real nice job and they improved as a year 505 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: and went on which I thought was fun to watch. 506 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: So UM, they're gonna come out. They'll come out swinging 507 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: this year, and we've got to make sure that we've 508 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: that we're ready for that. I know a lot of 509 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: people have talked about the Chiefs are rebuilding. You obviously 510 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 1: have a young quarterback. But you know, I often say, 511 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: especially on social media, I don't imagine you're necessarily looking 512 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: at it like that, are you? No, I listen, I 513 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: I come out. We're gonna come out swinging. I mean 514 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: that's what we do and we've always done that, and UM, 515 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: that's what I expect us to do. And I know 516 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: our guys expect that They've had a little taste of success. Um. 517 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: They know that it's not that there's more to it, um, 518 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: and they would like to explore that, right, They would 519 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: like to taste, uh, taste how sweet that is. They 520 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: also know that it's tough to tough to get there, 521 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: and it takes a lot of preparation. And so his 522 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: crew here, since I've gotten here, it's not afraid to 523 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: work and um, we you know, there's some things to 524 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: go into it, but they've really for the most part, 525 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: the core guys here that have been here have done 526 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: a real nice job. And it's time you gotta take 527 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: it up a notch and that that's, uh, that's the 528 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: challenge and and we look forward to that challenge. So 529 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: I can't wait to get going here in a week, 530 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: I mean, when it all gets put in for the 531 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: for the fall. You guys got a fun schedule this fall. Yeah, 532 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: I know you're playing the the NFC West obviously with 533 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: the a f C West teams are the Rams have 534 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: basically made every trade known to man, and the Niners 535 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo and obviously Seattle is always good be a 536 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: fun little test. Yeah, I know we actually have the Rams. 537 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: I believe in Mexico, So Mexico. Yes, that's right, that's right. 538 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: So we'll be sneaking down there for that for that game. 539 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: I think it probably Thursday night or one of those deals. 540 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: The elevations be high, it's I think it's higher in Denver, 541 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: isn't it it is? We keep the coach from passing out, 542 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: we might be okay, all right, right, I appreciate all 543 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: the time. Today. I know you are a busy man. 544 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: What's on the docket for lunch today? Well, you know what, John, 545 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: I've done. I've cut back a little bit and I 546 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: were together and the junks food Fridays and all that, 547 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: we've ended up just a notch. The older I get, 548 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: the more I've got to watch out now. So we're 549 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: trying to kick it down. But I'll probably do a 550 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: little tuna fish salad this uh for for lunch. Here 551 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,719 Speaker 1: are you telling me? Fast fast Friday? Fast food Fridays 552 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: don't exist anymore? With the cancer cheese? You know, you 553 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: know what we buried the fast food Fridays. There were 554 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: a lot of good ones, man, There are a lot 555 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: of good ones. But those are those are in the archives. 556 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: We'll put those in the Smithsonian. About that those were 557 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: good times. I'll always remember them. I still kick those 558 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: into my diet. I'll promise you that. Yeah, well you're 559 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: out there, there's some uh. I've got to watch the 560 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: barbecue back here. You got a whole lot of stuff there. 561 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: You gotta watch so you know it's uh. But you 562 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about it. You're in good shape. Man. 563 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: Well thanks a lot, coach, and looking forward to watching 564 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,479 Speaker 1: you guys in the draft. And I can't wait for 565 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: this fall. All right, John, thank you man, I appreciate it. 566 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: Have a good one, all right, you too. Andy Reid 567 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: is the man, absolute legend. Obviously, I'm biased worked for 568 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: the guy, was around him. I mean, it's his resume 569 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: speaks for itself. But just as a person might be 570 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: the nicest guy in the NFL, like Noble Ship just 571 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: might be a nice guy in the NFL, he's he's 572 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: the best man. And they think they got something pretty 573 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: special theren Patrick Mahomes and like you said, a lot 574 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: of people talking about them rebuilding. I don't know if 575 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: they'll necessarily be a playoff team. They've made the playoffs 576 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: four times in five years. I wouldn't count them out, though. 577 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: I wouldn't count them out. And they're gonna be explosive 578 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: on offense if they can just improve on defense. I mean, 579 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: they couldn't get much worse than they were last year. 580 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: They're gonna be a tough out. Well, let's get to 581 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: something we've been doing. Like I said, every week, if 582 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: you leave your questions on the in the review section 583 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: of iTunes, I'll get to him in the podcast, I'll answer. 584 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: And this week, over the last week, I got a 585 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: bunch of good ones. Let's start with one of the 586 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: first questions, what team with a first year head coach 587 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: will make the playoffs? Because typically every year that happens. 588 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: And I said, WHOA that that's a pretty good question, 589 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: because this year I think it's pretty easy. Like the Giants, 590 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: no chance, the Colts are awful. I'm not buying into 591 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: Matt Patricia. To me, it's simple. In two thousand and 592 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: eighteen is John Gruden. He takes over a team that's 593 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: two years removed from a twelve and fourth season, a 594 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: team with a franchise quarterback, a franchise pass rusher, uh 595 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: star receiver that's coming off a bad year, a well 596 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: put together beast of an offensive line. You know, he's 597 00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: still Marshawn Lynch, multiple running backs, and you know Paul 598 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: gut there coming over from Cincinnati that they have no excuse. 599 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: Whenever you signed a coach to a hundred million dollars 600 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: and basically paying ten million dollars a year and his 601 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: name is John Gruden and you have players already on 602 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,239 Speaker 1: that existing team, it's playoffs or bust every year, and 603 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: maybe in a year or two if if they prove 604 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: that they're good, it'll be like Super Bowl or bust. 605 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: I can't go that far. But to meet anything less, 606 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: I don't think you necessarily have to win the division. 607 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: If somehow Rivers and the Chargers were to win eleven 608 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: twelve games, or Andy Reid with Patrick Mahomes were to 609 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: win eleven twelve games, I can see that. But you 610 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: have to make a wild card. You would have to 611 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: be playing in that first weekend wild card weekend. If 612 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: you're not anything less, Raider Nation, the outside nation, whoever 613 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,479 Speaker 1: you are as a football fan, you could say that 614 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: was a failure. And that's They're one of the rare 615 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: teams in this situation with a first time head coach 616 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: where that is expectation, Like Pat Termer, there two years 617 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: removed from a playoff birth. Remember two years ago with Macoto, 618 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: it seems like a lifetime ago. It's not playoffs or 619 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: bus there. It's just let's just get the train back 620 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: on the tracks. It's not the case with the Raiders, 621 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,959 Speaker 1: and I think there is a ton of expectations, a 622 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: ton of pressure. John's kind of embraced it. It's gonna 623 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: be fun to watch. I think the Raiders should be 624 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: pretty good. I don't know if I'll pick them to 625 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,479 Speaker 1: win the division. We'll see how the draft goes here 626 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks. But to me, they are 627 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: I kind of view them as a, you know, one 628 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: of those wild card teams. So anything less will be 629 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: a massive disappointment in there might pick next question, what 630 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: should the Texans do with J. J. Watt? He's just 631 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: a couple of years removed signing that member six years, 632 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: hundred plus million dollar contract. Injuries have just kind of 633 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: derailed his life. I remember a couple of years ago 634 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: in the playoff game. I can never say this word. 635 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: The growing ripped off his bone. His back basically gave 636 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: out on him, kind of tiger Wood style. Uh. Last 637 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: year's leg shattered. I looked at some contract details this morning. 638 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: He after this season they can get out for about 639 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: two million dollars in a dead cap hit with with 640 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: no money guaranteed to him. So I would say this 641 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 1: year's kind of make or break for J. J. Watt 642 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 1: with the Texans. If I was a betting man, I'd say, 643 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,280 Speaker 1: you know, typically guys with that many injuries at that position, 644 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: that they're never the same. And he didn't really look 645 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 1: right last year early on in the season. Though I'm 646 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: not ever counting him out because in his prime, I mean, 647 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: a complete badass, but football man, even the biggest badasses, 648 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: eventually the injuries just kind of wear on you and 649 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: you don't have the same explosive this, you don't have 650 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: the same pop, you don't have the same strength. He 651 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: was the ultimate defensive player because he could bull rush, 652 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: he could speed rush, you could line up over a 653 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: center or outside a tight end. I mean, he was 654 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: just the ultimate chess piece. It's hard to say, but 655 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: if I was a betting man right now, he's not 656 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: gonna be on the Texans next year. And to me, 657 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: he's one of those players and he's gotten it written 658 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: all over him with all these injuries that like you're 659 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,720 Speaker 1: you're looking at in a couple of years, like, damn, 660 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: where's J J. Watt? I ain't in the NFL anymore. 661 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: That's just the nature of the beast man, nature of 662 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 1: the sport, uh, nature of playing these physical positions and 663 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: being a guy like him that went we went all out. 664 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 1: I've said before, I'll go on record again his four 665 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: or five year stretch, I'd put him in the Hall 666 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: of Fame. He had a four year stretch where he 667 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: was the best defensive player in the league. I think 668 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: he won the award three times. But he was just 669 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: so clear, like I don't know if I've ever seen 670 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: this before. Now, he's not gonna have it. Was he 671 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: a one playoff win in his career, so it's not 672 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: like he's gonna have the hardware of ben in a 673 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: bunch of championship games and playing in Super Bowl. Now, 674 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: maybe this Texans team, who knows, could bounce back, but 675 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: he was he was a stud. But that's the way 676 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 1: the league works. Man. He's a year away from maybe 677 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: being out of the league. Next question, what are the 678 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: realistic expectations big picture for Carson Wentz? And for me, 679 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: this is simple. Michael Jordan once said, the ceiling is 680 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 1: the roof. Well, with Carson Wentz, there is no roof. Uh, 681 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: there is only a ceiling, and it's the sky high. 682 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 1: I think he has a chance if he can stay healthy, 683 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: big if he could be the best player in the league. 684 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: Uh when multiple m v ps. Obviously he had a 685 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 1: Super Bowl team. I think he will win a Super 686 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: Bowl if he stays healthy. But he has to stay healthy. 687 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: And I would say there is one big red flag 688 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,399 Speaker 1: on him right now is he plays the game. And 689 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck did this a little bit too. I think 690 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: when you're so big, when you're built like Lebron James 691 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: a football, you think you're indestructible. Well, let me tell you. 692 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: I've been going to NFL games for a long time. 693 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: I don't care how big the defensive player is. Down 694 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 1: the street from me. The Raiders practice facility, I think 695 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,280 Speaker 1: they're practicing right now, are working out. They have a safety, 696 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: Carl Joseph. He's short, he's maybe maybe five eight and 697 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: a half to fifteen. He is one of the smaller 698 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: efeties in the NFL. He will break you in half, 699 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 1: break you in half. Let alone all the you know. 700 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: Luke Keekley's of the world and uh Khalil Max and 701 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,760 Speaker 1: Aaron Donalds, the small defensive players in the NFL will 702 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: destroy you. He has to learn to slide, He has 703 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: to learn to get out of bounds. He has to 704 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,399 Speaker 1: learn to do the Payton Manning Tom Brady just hit 705 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: the ground. Man. It's just not worth it because last 706 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: year we saw this game is delicate and boom one play. 707 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: You'r a cls ripped and Carson, you're too important to 708 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: the Eagles. You can't afford to dive head first. Now 709 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 1: there's a difference if you know you're in the super 710 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: Bowl or you know a game to get into the playoffs. 711 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 1: You gotta do it every once in a while. But 712 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: it can't be a habit. And I think it kind 713 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: of became a habit. And that's the biggest thing. Doug 714 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 1: Peterson is gonna have to break that habit and get 715 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: it out of him, because if he can avoid that 716 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: and learn to just be a little more consistent with 717 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 1: his big splash plays, uh, he he could be an 718 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: all time great. I mean he was headed that way. 719 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 1: You could tell by year two. Honestly, I thought some 720 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: of the haters and the negativity on him in year 721 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: one shows you how dumb people are. The cover of 722 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: the NFL, Like, it was pretty clear to me, like 723 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 1: this guy's got something special, you know, coming from North 724 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 1: Dakota State and just handling himself like this as a rookie, 725 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: even as he went through struggles, it was clear he 726 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 1: had the physical tools. And then this year he kind 727 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,359 Speaker 1: of put it all together. So I could see next 728 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 1: year being a little tough. It's always hard coming off 729 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: an injury, but I think over the next five years 730 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: you'll you'll see a guy establish himself as you know, 731 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: a top three or four player, a quarterback at his position, 732 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 1: and big picture, if he stays healthy, you know you 733 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 1: have just superstar upside. Last question, Chris Ballard method of 734 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,280 Speaker 1: building the Colts. Do you like it slow and steady? 735 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: During free agency? Obviously traded back in the draft, accumulated 736 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: a bunch of picks. That was a really good trade, 737 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: A no brainer for Chris Ballad. I I think this 738 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:59,760 Speaker 1: is simple. Chris Ballard took the job thinking that Andrew 739 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: Luck would be as quarterback. You know, it's like if 740 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 1: if Steve Kerr left tomorrow and I joined the Warriors, 741 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: I would assume Steph Curry is gonna be my point guard. 742 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: If I went to the Angels, I would assume Mike 743 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 1: Trout is gonna be my center fielder like that. That's 744 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: a big part of a lot of these jobs. Like 745 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 1: one individual player so far, Andrew Luck. I think the 746 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 1: last report I read can't even pick up a football, 747 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: let alone throw it. Well, that's a pretty big problem 748 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 1: If Andrew Luck never comes back, the culture in major trouble, 749 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: like I read flagged the organization. But I will say this, 750 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: everyone I know that's been around Chris Ballard saying his 751 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: praises to the highest degree. Chris Ballard the number one 752 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 1: coach I've thought on the market the last two years. Now, 753 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: I might have been wrong because it looks like Kyle 754 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: Shanahan's stud And obviously Sean McVeigh was Coach of the Year, 755 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson Hell won a Super Bowl. There's been a 756 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: lot of good coaches the last couple of years. I 757 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: thought Josh McDaniels would have been my number one candidate 758 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: if I was, you know, a GM these last several years. 759 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: So I thought this year when they or on Josh 760 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: mcchaniels and then gotta hire Josh McDaniels, they were on 761 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: the right guy shift out of their control. He backs out. 762 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:12,399 Speaker 1: Nothing really Chris Ballard could have done. I can't necessarily 763 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: blame him for that. But here's the problem. Now he's 764 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: with a guy that he didn't originally interview. Would that 765 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: have been his top five choice? I don't think so. 766 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: So he's already in a situation as quarterback can't pick 767 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: up a football. He's got a coach that you know, 768 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 1: in a perfect world he would have had someone else. 769 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 1: I don't think he's in an ideal spot. And it 770 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: shows you how fast in the NFL a guy can 771 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,839 Speaker 1: go from turning down GM interviews for years to now 772 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: finally taking a job that many of us thought was sweet, 773 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,320 Speaker 1: to now going god, I I don't know. I you 774 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,439 Speaker 1: gotta give him credit on this last year when Andrew 775 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 1: Luck couldn't play, he made a pretty good trade to 776 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,919 Speaker 1: get Jacoby. Per said. Now with Jacoby a starting courts 777 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 1: a legitimate top fifteen starting Probably not, but he was 778 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,479 Speaker 1: a pretty funk. If that's your backup, which he would 779 00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: be if Andrew Luck come back, that's a damn good trade. 780 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 1: So I I do think he is. He's shown flashes. 781 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 1: But if Frank Wright can't coach and Andrew Luck can't 782 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,399 Speaker 1: come back. The Colts are are basically screwed. Well, well, 783 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: thanks again everyone for listening. Fired up to have Andy 784 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,399 Speaker 1: on the podcast this week. Keep sending your questions again. 785 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 1: Go to iTunes rate and review, and in the review 786 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: section just leave your questions and we'll get to a 787 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 1: rapid fire and the drafts right around the course. So 788 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: next week we'll be talking a lot of draft. Following 789 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 1: week we'll be talking a lot of draft. Obviously that 790 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: next week we'll be talking a lot of draft. Uh 791 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 1: holler at me. Put your questions in the review section 792 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: and we'll bang him out on this bad way. Again. 793 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone listening to three and out. 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