1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Welcomed, unobscured a production of I Heart Radio and Aaron 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: Minky the spiritual touring actor Grigory Rasputin. That's what the 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: Moscow Gazette called him, But that was just the headline. 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: Things only got worse for Grigory from there. Apparently the 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: writer knew all the favorite talking points from the elite salons. 6 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: He was a cunning Siberian charlatan, a predatory letcher, a hypnotist, 7 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: and a false teacher who used his ideas about holy 8 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: love to get far too up close and personal with 9 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: his followers. They called him a pseudo prophet and damned 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: him for teaching spiritual delusions that were opposite of the 11 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: traditions of the Orthodox Church. But the article didn't stop 12 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: at condemning Resputant's delusions and false holiness. It also attacked 13 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: other areas of his life. It accused Grigory of being 14 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: a lazy, deadbeat, a man who had abandoned his family 15 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: in Pokrovsko, whose children were fatherless and unruly, and the 16 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: thor even said that in investigating his piece, he had 17 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: spoken with a church leader who called Gregory a heretic 18 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: and a sexual predator. As far as the press goes 19 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: this was about as damning as it gets, and digging 20 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 1: behind the article we can see why, like so many 21 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: others in Russia, the journalist who wrote the Peace believed 22 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: that the church was in trouble and needed to be reformed. 23 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: Like our command right theo fan, the writer looked to 24 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: Russia's wandering holy men as a source of hope. In 25 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: some ways, Gregory seemed like exactly the kind of person 26 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: he was looking for, a peasant who had formed a 27 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: bridge between the Czar and the peasant class, bringing the 28 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: voice of the so called ordinary Russian to the ear 29 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: of the Czar himself. But here's the problem. Rasputant's dark 30 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: side was actually giving all of Russia's holy men a 31 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: bad name, claiming to be a holy leader while using 32 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: his position to feed on the vulnerabilities of his followers. 33 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: It's easy to see why anyone would think this left 34 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: their approach in tatters. If they were going to hold 35 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: onto the idea that Russian holy men could revitalize the 36 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: faith and life of the Empire, they had to figure 37 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: out how things had gone so wrong with Grigory. If 38 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: condemning Rasputant as a heretic and a letger sounds familiar. 39 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: That's because it was the message our command right theo 40 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: Fan was spreading far and wide. In fact, theo Fan 41 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: himself might be the churchman who worked with the author 42 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. But regardless of who the hidden sources 43 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: were for the writer, the fact is that defenders of 44 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: the Church and defenders of the Czar alike swarmed to 45 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: the takedown like it fed their starving souls. Other papers 46 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: across Russia instantly copied the article and reprinted it. They 47 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: knew when there was blood in the water, and what 48 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: sells a paper better than a sex scandal at the 49 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: crossroads of the Church and the Crown. Once again, the 50 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: paper had taken the public's temperature. Letters flooded into the 51 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: Moscow Gazette. New stories of Grigory restputants bad behavior were 52 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: piled onto the first reports, and as the accusations mounted, 53 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: it led the editors of the Gazette to trumpet one 54 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 1: question above the clamoring throng. If Grigory Resputin was such 55 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: a dangerous conman, why didn't the Church or the Crown 56 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: rise up and do something to root him out? The 57 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: monarchist newspapers thought they might open Nicholas's eyes to the 58 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: dangers of Resputin and separate the monarchy from the mystic. 59 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: But the reformers and revolutionaries across Russia were only too 60 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: happy to point out that Resputin and the Romanovs seemed 61 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: to be inseparable. They followed the monarchist press in denouncing Rasputin, 62 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: not to save the imperial family, but to condemn it. 63 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: Their answer to the question of why Nicholas didn't do 64 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: something was that the Romanovs themselves were hapless fools and 65 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: needed to be thrown out along with their court soothsayers. 66 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: Issue after issue delved into Resputant's background, his heretical teaching, 67 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: and his violence against women. To the leftist press, all 68 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: of these were the fault of Nicholas and Alexandra. None 69 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: of these press reports got the story right, though monarchists 70 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: and revolutionaries alike layered rumor and insinuation over every kernel 71 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: of truth. But all the reporting was eaten up by 72 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: a public hungry for more news about the secret inner 73 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: workings of the Romanov's domestic world. And then there's this 74 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: deep irony to contend with. Russia at the time was 75 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: an empire divided. Not only were revolutionary groups and monarchist 76 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: brigades battling each other for the future of Russia, but 77 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: they were often fighting within their own ranks. Each faction 78 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: rarely managed to maintain their alliances for long, and yet 79 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: in Rasputin they were now finding a common cause, or 80 00:04:42,040 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: better put, a common enemy. This is unobscured. I'm Aaron Manky. Yeah, 81 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: the attacks on Rasputin went international. If the Russian papers 82 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: thought they were cleaning house and taking down Rasputin, they 83 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: couldn't foresee just how far the stories about him would 84 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: travel and how long the legends they were creating would endure. 85 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: Within a few weeks, the splashy articles were being distributed 86 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: across Russia. The Austrian ambassador wrote back to Vienna about 87 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: the unfolding scandal, and, of course, for the royals across Europe, 88 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: the question of how Nicholas and Alexandra could take a 89 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: heretical priest into their confidence was a real puzzle, and 90 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: the ambassador offered his view. The royal couple were simply 91 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: unwilling to see that their relationship with Grigory Rasputin was 92 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: a problem. It was a real flash of insights. He 93 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: saw that in the eyes of Nicholas and Alexandra. Rasputin 94 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: was untouchable. But it wasn't just the stories about the 95 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: Romanov's spiritual advisor that slipped the borders of Russia. It 96 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: was the Romanovs themselves. In the years after the nineteen 97 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: oh five Revolution, and with all the changes that were 98 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: shaking Russian society, Nicholas and Alexandra often found time to 99 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: get away from it all. Not that this was anything new. 100 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: Hunting lodges and holiday homes were always the privilege of 101 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: the European royals. Nicholas and Alexandra were no exception, and 102 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: of course family visits double as political meetings when the 103 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: family are all heads of states. For example, ever since 104 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: their marriage began, Nicholas and Alexandra had regularly traveled back 105 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: to her old stomping grounds in Germany, and Nicholas even 106 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,799 Speaker 1: had a Russian Orthodox chapel built for Alexander there. Often 107 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: they stayed with Alexandra's brother Ernie at his summer retreat, 108 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: or visited relatives in the Danish royal family, and these 109 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: visits didn't slow down as their family grew. As things 110 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: heated up at home. I can only imagine that they 111 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: were too happy to slip the troubled borders of their empire, 112 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 1: leave the trouble some issues in the hands of a 113 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: prime minister like stoile Epan, and try to find some 114 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: cleaner air. Of course, there was a more personal reason 115 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: that the Romana family would have wanted to retreat from 116 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: the turmoil of their empire into some sort of tranquility. 117 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: You see, Alexandra was sick, and the truth was she 118 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: had been sick for years. Here's historian Helen Rappaport to 119 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: tell us more. I think Alexandra clearly was plagued with 120 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: sciatica from her teens, because when it was announced she 121 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: was going to marry Nikki in April eighteen nine four, 122 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: one of the first things Queen Victoria arranged was to 123 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: get her treatment for this crippling scietic pain she suffered from. 124 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: So she was sent to Harrogate for a water cure, 125 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: and that was the first probably of money later on 126 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: in her life, after she'd tapped the children, they she 127 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: went more than once, I think, to bad Noihan in 128 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: Germany for again for wat cures. So she had always 129 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: had the scietica and I cannot imagine how painful her 130 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: pregnancies must have been suffering from sciatic pain and carrying 131 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: you know, ten eleven pound babies to term. She must 132 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: have been dreadfully consumed by pain at times, and she 133 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: was often had to be lying down. She genuinely had 134 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: terrible ear infections and me grains, and oh gosh, there 135 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: wasn't almost any complaints she didn't at sometime suffer from. 136 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: So that kind of colored family life, I think more 137 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: than perhaps we realize. Even when they weren't traveling for treatment, 138 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 1: abandoning the pressure of court, life in Russia was itself 139 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: an enormous relief, and there's perhaps no trip that the 140 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: Empress liked better than a holiday to the islands around 141 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: Finland in the Tsar's personal Yat when life in Russia 142 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: got tense or threat to the Czar made their routines dangerous, 143 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,119 Speaker 1: Nicholas and Alexander would take to the water. They're surrounded 144 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: by a loyal crew, with warships from the Imperial Fleet 145 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: bobbing in formation on all sides. Nicholas and Alexandra felt 146 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: their most carefree, prying eyes were left far behind. The 147 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: naval officers who served them on board were kind and obliging, 148 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: and all the guns pointed outward. But even those floating 149 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: fantasies came back to earth, and when they did, the 150 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: troubles of Russia proved they couldn't be left behind. Take 151 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: their visit to England in nineteen o nine. Along the way, 152 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: the Romanovs stopped to see Alexandra's sister Irene and made 153 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: an appearance for the President of France. And then they 154 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: were on towards England, where their royal cousins were eager 155 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: to greet them. Not so the English people, though, you see, 156 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: word had spread of the fact that Nicholas used his 157 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: Cossacks against the Russian people in nineteen o five. The 158 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: violence of his autocratic control over the Russian Empire was 159 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: no secrets. Socialist rallies in London were held as the 160 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: Romanov's yacht sailed toward British soil. The Young British Labor 161 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: Party collected resolutions from a cross Britain condemning the blood 162 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: on the hands of the Czar, the terrorism of his 163 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: supporters like Iliador, and the actions of the Russian secret police. 164 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: And it should be pointed out if we remember the 165 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: way the Czar's Cossacks ran down protesting workers in nineteen 166 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: o five. We have to say the British workers who 167 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: rallied in Trafalgar Square had a point. Maybe that's why 168 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: everyone from schools to evangelical societies to trade unions all 169 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: signed on to condemn the Romanov's visit. Nicholas may have 170 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: been surprised by how well British radicals knew the inner 171 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: workings of Russian politics, but the creeping fear he felt 172 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: when he heard they were discussing his assassination would have 173 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: been all too familiar. It was the feeling he fled 174 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: when the family took to the sea, so Nicholas and 175 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: Alexandra made their visit a short one. The coastal towns 176 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: were flooded with English and Russian police, who choked them 177 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: to a standstill. It could have only confirmed to the 178 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: Czar's critics that Russia was ruled with an iron fist. 179 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: At night, the romanov was retreated to their floating fortress. 180 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: When they visited Sweden, Nicholas and Alexandra didn't even dare 181 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: to set foot on land. So the imperial family didn't 182 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: have the best reputation beyond the borders of their empire, 183 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: let alone among the people they held under their power 184 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: at the time, and that was all before the press 185 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: sank their teeth into the story of Grigory Rasputin. Resputant 186 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: had his defenders, of course, and maybe no one was 187 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: more energetic in his defense than the mad monk himself, 188 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: the terrorist preacher Eliodor. Not to be outdone by the 189 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: inflamed accusations of the newspaper, Eliodor began to fabricate some 190 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: stories of his own. Resputin was not a sexual predator, 191 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: said Eliodor, so much the opposite, in fact, that Gregory 192 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: had mastered his sexual urges so much that he no 193 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: longer made love to his own wife. He lived with 194 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: special holiness. He was Russia's saving grace. Anyone who wrote 195 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: attacks against Resputant should be bound and beaten bloody, that 196 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: was Eliador's message. Not a pleasant fellow, really, But Eliodora's 197 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: bloodthirsty defenses of Resputin were nearly as effective as Resputant's 198 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: own technique to disappear. Throughout most of nineteen ten, there 199 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: were several points where even the Russian secret police, the Okrana, 200 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: had no idea where Resputant was. His disappearance was all 201 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: about giving the scandal time to blow over and for 202 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: newspapers to find something else to blow up about. And 203 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 1: there was one man in Russia willing to oblige. That's right, 204 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: Eliodor himself. Do you remember how I told you that 205 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: Resputant had orchestrated a one on one meeting between Eliador 206 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: and the Empress. She had forced a few promises out 207 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: of the man. Maybe he agreed in the moment, but 208 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: he swiftly changed his mind. Soon enough, he was back 209 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: in his pulpit, letting fly against the Czar, the government 210 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: of the Duma, the Prime Minister, and just about everyone 211 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: else he considered a part of Russia's decline, and that 212 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: included leaders in the church. Now, obviously they didn't take 213 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: too kindly to that, and they sent an order. The 214 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: monk Iliodor was being reassigned once again. This time he 215 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: was supposed to leave his base in the city of 216 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: Tzaritsin and go where he couldn't make so much trouble, 217 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: the remote monastery of Novozil. But leaving his influential position 218 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: on the banks of the Volga River was the last 219 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: thing Eliador wanted to do. His first course of action 220 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: was a frantic message to Siberia he was calling on 221 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: help from Rasputin. Of course, after all, Grigory had been 222 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 1: able to arrange a one on one meeting with the 223 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: Empress the last time he got in trouble. Why couldn't 224 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: he use the same get out of jail free card again? 225 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: And while he waited for an answer, he took some action. 226 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: Gathering his closest disciples around him, Eliodor retreated into his 227 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: monastery compound and barricaded the doors. Douglas Smith writes that 228 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: Iliador even started blasting out messages in his typical bombastic 229 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: style that he wouldn't leave unless every of the monastery 230 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 1: was covered in his own blood, that he would see 231 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,119 Speaker 1: his home become his grave before he would be sidelined 232 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: by the church, you know, the usual stuff. Now, we 233 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: don't know if Rasputin was involved in what happened next, 234 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: but it's clear that the news made its way to 235 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: Nicholas and the Tsar was having none of it. Naturally, 236 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: he sided with the leaders of the Russian Church. They 237 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: should do what they needed to do to tamp down 238 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: this violent dissenter. After all, it's not like Eliador had 239 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: been cultivating goodwill with anyone among Russia's elite. All this 240 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: back and forth made its way into black and white. 241 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: Soon enough, the papers were saying that Eliador had rallied 242 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: his terrorist followers to his cause. And it wasn't a 243 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: small movement either. By one reckoning, thousands of people had 244 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: traveled the Volga to gather around Iliador. It looked more 245 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: and more like a fight was brewing. The twists and 246 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: turns and the story were complex. It was a story 247 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: of espionage, secret agents, and back room deals. To sum 248 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: it up simply, though, a plex bargaining process began. While 249 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: Nicholas sent negotiators to hash out the situation with Iliador, 250 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: Rasputin rushed back into the Romanov's lives once again to 251 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: discuss things with them behind the scenes. The situation was explosive. 252 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: Realizing that Grigory was out of hiding, the Prime Minister 253 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: met with Nicholas. He wanted to convince the Czar that 254 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: Grigory was bad for the throne and bad for the empire. 255 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: He put all of Russia at risk. Nicholas, though, wasn't convinced. 256 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: He essentially met the Prime Minister with a shrug and 257 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: he said, why don't you just meet with Rasputin yourself? 258 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: So finally, after months of ducking the secret police, Nicholas 259 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: had to arrange it. Grigory met face to face with 260 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: Prime ministers Stoi Leepin and Stoi Lepin, came armed for 261 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: the encounter. When they faced off, he showed Grigory a 262 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: file packed with reports from the Russian secret police. He 263 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: said they proved that Rasputant was a heretic who had 264 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: betrayed the Russian Church. Stoy Leepin believed that by threatening 265 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: Grigory he could get the man to back down and 266 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: disappear from the Imperial Court, but he didn't know just 267 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: how much Resputant believed that he was on a mission 268 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: from God. Grigory dared Soy Leapin to show the file 269 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: not to Nicholas, but to Alexandra, and then when they 270 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: went their separate ways, Gregory wasted no time. He told 271 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: the Empress about the police reports himself. All that the 272 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: Prime Minister earned from the encounter was Alexander's fury raspute, 273 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: and was right. The Romanovs were on his side. This 274 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: swirl of activity around the Romanovs did nothing to shake 275 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: Iliador from his fortified monastery. The mad monk was still 276 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: sending Rasputin messages asking for help and lane plans to 277 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: grow his power. At one point he even pretended to 278 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: cooperate for a while and took to the road, but 279 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: in the end it was only just buying time for 280 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: him to gather more die hard believers to his cause. 281 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: He circled back to his headquarters with even more supporters 282 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: in tow In fact, he had gathered an army men 283 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: and women had marched to his fortress by the tens 284 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: of thousands, all of them hung on Iliador's every word 285 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 1: as he called for the new representative government of Russia 286 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: to be torn down in a shower of blood, and 287 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: for people like Prime Minister Stoilepen to be beaten in 288 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: the streets. And even as it got more and more hypocritical, 289 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: Eliador and his followers still held onto the idea that 290 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: all of this was actually helping the Czar. It was, 291 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: as Dr Heather Coleman puts it, a naive monarchism. Historians 292 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: have pointed to a great phenomenon of naive monarchism of 293 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: of ordinary people who who believed that the that the 294 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: government um was the problem and if only they could 295 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: get to the Tsar, that Ssar was was faithful to 296 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: the to the to the to the little guy and um, 297 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: and that you know. The problem was the bureaucrats in between. 298 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: As these ideas grew more powerful and il Door added 299 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: to his numbers, Nicholas had a choice to make turn 300 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: the full might of his imperial forces on rebellious monarchists 301 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 1: or give them free reign to undermine his government. The 302 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: choice he made was a fateful one, because in the 303 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: end Nicholas backed down. He issued a full pardon for Eliador. 304 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: The mad monk had gone up against the Czar and one, 305 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: but that victory sowed the seeds of his own downfall. 306 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: In beating the Tsar, these self defeating monarchists proved once 307 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: again that the Czar could be beaten. This very public 308 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: battle between the Tsar and the terrorist preacher had distracted 309 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: the press from the story of Rasputin, but it hadn't 310 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: distracted the rest of the Romanov family. Knowing that meetings 311 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: with Grigory had happened behind the scenes, the other Romanovs 312 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: believed that Resputant was really the one behind Nicholas's decision 313 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,719 Speaker 1: to fold in the face of Eliadora's growing forces. So 314 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: at one point Nicholas's mother, the Dowager Empress, decided it 315 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: was time to take her son in hand. She met 316 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: with Nicholas and al Alexandra in the palace. She gave 317 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: her boy a good tongue lashing. She demanded that Nicholas 318 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: and the scandal sever the friendship and send respute in away. 319 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: Alexandra fought fire with fire. As the Czarina, she refused 320 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: to be pushed around by her mother in law no 321 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: matter what anyone thought, and in the end the Dowager 322 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: Empress left defeated. Throughout the fight with his mother and 323 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: wife trading ferocious arguments, Nicholas, it said, sat in silence. 324 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: He put Russia behind him. After all, it was true, 325 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: the scandal did need time to blow over. So Grigory 326 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: Rasputin set out to the one place he always wanted 327 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: to go. He wanted to refresh his soul, to commune 328 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 1: with God, so he went to the Holy Land. But 329 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: if that conjures up stories of Grigory's early religious life, 330 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: of his wanderings and his lonely struggles on the road, 331 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: that might give us the idea, because this wasn't quite 332 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: the kind of lonely pilgrimage to Jerusalem that a holy 333 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: man might make on a shoestring and a prayer. Quite 334 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 1: the contrary, Resputant was doing something popular. It turns out 335 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: that the trip sounds a lot like the kind of 336 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: Holy Land tourism that people are still doing today. Here's 337 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: historian Douglas Smith to explain. It's not as exotic maybe 338 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: as it first seems that, you know, a Russian in 339 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: nineteen eleven would be going to the Holy Land. There 340 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: were actually packaged tours that Russians would go on that 341 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: would take them to see the places connected to the 342 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: life of Jesus. And this is essentially what he did 343 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: as he went on one one of these package tours, 344 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: if you will. But he was profoundly moved by the experience, 345 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: and he wrote about it, and he sent letters back 346 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: to Nicholas and Alexandra about the meaning it had for him. 347 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: One of the things that he came back with was 348 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: a renewed um conviction that the only true form of 349 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: Christianity was Russian orthod docsy. That was just the kind 350 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: of message that would be welcomed with opened arms by 351 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,239 Speaker 1: friends that Rasputant had left behind, and he made a 352 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: bee line for none other than Iliador awash in the 353 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: glow of victory, the mad monk welcomed Grigory to his 354 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,479 Speaker 1: monastery on the Volga, and they hit the road as 355 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: a kind of double act. Soon enough, they were trailed 356 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: by supporters as they went from town to town together. 357 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: The documents tell us that sometimes it was dozens and 358 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: sometimes it was hundreds of women who followed in their wake. 359 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: Iliodor introduced Rasputin as his beloved brother. For his part, 360 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: Grigory recounts his adventures in Palestine in a particularly nationalistic mode. 361 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: Here's more from Douglas Smith. He had nothing but horrible 362 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: things to say about the other branches of the Christian faith. 363 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: And he came to believe that pilgrimage to the Holy 364 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: Lands should be encouraged among Russian society as a way 365 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: of instilling greater faith in the Church, and by extension, 366 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: and by instilling greater faith and loyalty among Russian Orthodox 367 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: believers and subjects of the Crown in the sanctity of 368 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: the throne itself. That this was a way you could 369 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: further bind Russians to the autocracy, was through these trips 370 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: to the Holy Land. And and he would come back 371 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: and speak about his experiences there, and this definitely sort 372 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: of gave him a greater sense of religious authority in 373 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: the eyes of his believers. When they ended their speaking 374 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: tour back at Eliodor's monastery, the monk gave rasput And 375 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: a lavish send off. It seemed to Grigory that their 376 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: friendship was secure and that he had made a successful 377 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: return to Russian society. Maybe he even believed that the 378 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: bad press and the bad days were behind him. He 379 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: was friends with Eliodor and friends with the Czar. What 380 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: could go wrong. But if he only saw smooth sailing ahead, 381 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: then he hadn't been paying attention to the way that 382 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: Eliador treated his friends, So it seems Gregory didn't have 383 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: his guard up. A few months later, when he arrived 384 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: in St. Petersburg, he heard that Eliodora was also in 385 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: the capital, purchasing a printing press for his monastery. Eliodor 386 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: invited Grigory to travel with him to meet with a 387 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: member of the Holy Synod, their supporter, germy Jin. Naturally, 388 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: Rasputin agreed, but he was walking into a trap. When 389 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: the pair arrived, they found that germy Jan was not alone. 390 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: As they stepped into the room, Gregory realized that he 391 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: was also faced by two other men, a Cossack officer 392 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 1: who was one of Eliodora's violent monarchist allies, and another man, Mitya, 393 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 1: who Gregory knew well. In fact, Resputin and Mitya had 394 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 1: spent quite a lot of time together. They were fellow mystics, 395 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: fellow holy fools in the eyes of many, and had 396 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: been friends for long enough to know that they hated 397 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: each other. So when he stepped into the room with them, 398 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: Gregory finally realized what he was in for. He tried 399 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: to reach tread out the door, but they grabbed him 400 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: and forced him into a chair, and they laid into him. 401 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: If the Prime Minister had tried to make Resputant back 402 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: down by threatening him with a few documents, this crew 403 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: took a more direct, more violent approach. As Iliodor would 404 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 1: later tell the story, they took turns screaming and Rasputant's 405 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: face about his sins. He had deceived them, he had 406 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: fooled everyone. He was an impostor, a hypocrite, and a predator, 407 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: and now he deserved to be condemned. Resputant tried to 408 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: answer back, but this wasn't a conversation. Germy Jan, dressed 409 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: in his priestly robes, grabbed Resputant by the head. In 410 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: his other hand he held a gold cross and he 411 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: smashed it down on Resputin. He called him a devil. 412 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: He hit Grigory again and commanded that he never again 413 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: entered the Imperial Palace. Another blow fell, and he forbade 414 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 1: Grigory to ever meet with the Empress, and the beating 415 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: went on. It's a dramatic story. Eliodor said that Resputant 416 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: left the room that night, shaking, pale and covered in blood, 417 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,719 Speaker 1: promising that he would never enter the Romanov's palace again. 418 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: He kissed an icon pressed on him by German Jin 419 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: to seal the promise, and dragged himself out into the night. 420 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: The Cossack officer remembered it a bit differently. He told 421 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: other government officials that Resputant had fought all three of 422 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: them before overpowering them and escaping into the street, swearing revenge. 423 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: Whether it went one way or the other, one thing 424 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: is clear. In an instant, Eliador and Resputant had gone 425 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: from allies to enemies. Iliodor was hot off the heels 426 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: of his very public victory. He knew he was on 427 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: the rise, and he felt untouchable all along. To this point, 428 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 1: Rasputin had been the one standing between him and the Romanovs. 429 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: It seems the Iliador thought he could finally do away 430 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: with Grigory and step into his place. And powerful men 431 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: in the church, like German Jin, saw Rasputin as a 432 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: stain on their religion. They were only too happy to 433 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,479 Speaker 1: turn Eliodor against his fellow preacher. But if they had 434 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: been able to turn the tables on the Tzar, they 435 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: found that Resputant would be a tougher target. In fact, 436 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: their attack on Gregory backfired. Just a month later, German 437 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 1: Jin got news he was being stripped of his position 438 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: in the church after being booted from the Holy Synod. 439 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: He was exiled from the capital, and of course he 440 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: had been Eliodor's strongest ally. With him gone, the other 441 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,479 Speaker 1: members of the Holy Synod came for the terrorist preacher. 442 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: Exile orders came down, and so did the command that 443 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: he was no longer a monk. Iliodor was defrocked. On 444 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: the way out the door, both men pointed their fingers 445 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: at Grigory. All of this was retaliation for their attack 446 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: on him. It's more likely that their battle with the 447 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: Czar and the Church, the battle they thought they won, 448 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: was finally catching up with them. But regardless, they had 449 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: no trouble blaming their defeat on Resputin, and in his 450 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: fury at having the tables turned on him so severely, 451 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: Eliador decided to make his final play. He would unleash 452 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: the weapon he had kept under wraps and finally drive 453 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: a wedge between Resputant and the Czar. The letters were stolen. 454 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: They had been prized possessions, after all, they came from 455 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: the Empress, along with the shirt that she had sewn 456 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: for him. It was her letters that had the most 457 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: meaning for Gregory. In them, she poured out her prayers, 458 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: her fears and her joys, the struggles of her chronic pain, 459 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: the uncertainty of life in the Russian court. It was 460 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: all stitched together in the messages that she would send 461 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: to her personal friend and spiritual adviser at his home 462 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: in Siberia, built with the money given to him by 463 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: his many followers. Grigory gave these gifts from the Empress 464 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: a place of pride, and, by some accounts, in a 465 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: moment of weakness or arrogance, he would take them out 466 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: of his desk and show them off, like the time 467 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: in nineteen o nine when his friend Iliador visited him 468 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: in Pokrovsko. It was just after the first time that 469 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: Rasputin had arranged for Eliador to meet with the Empress. 470 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: With the fires of conflict burning low, Grigory had invited 471 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: Iliador out to his home in Siberia to retreat and 472 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: think over what came next. The precise details of the 473 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: visit are unclear, and the only person to describe what 474 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: happened is Iliodor. Knowing the way he later turned on Rasputin. 475 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: He's far from a reliable source, but he describes the 476 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: trip to Siberia as a revealing one. He says that 477 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: as they traveled into Grigory's hometown, Rasputin told him wild 478 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: stories of his degenerate youth and boasted constantly of his 479 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: close ties with the royal family. He bragged that his 480 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: influence went beyond the spiritual. They consulted with him about 481 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: faith and love, yes, but also about the Duma, the ministers, 482 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: the government, the future of Russia. Eliodor writes that Rasputant 483 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: got so boastful in his claims that he even said 484 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: that Nicholas and Alexandra had bowed at his feet, and 485 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: that the Czar could not even breathe without him. Now 486 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: we have to take all of that with the grainess 487 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: alt Iliodor wrote it down after he and Rasputin had 488 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: become enemies. But what does seem to be true is 489 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: that at some point on their visit, Rasputin showed Iliador 490 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: the letters. Some were from Alexandra, some were from the 491 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: Romanov children, and there were notes from other important people 492 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: there too. And somehow, when Iliodor left Pakrosco, some of 493 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: Rasputin's letters went with him, and a few years later 494 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: Eliador's change of heart about Grigory made them a powerful tool. 495 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: Here's Douglas Smith to describe what happened next. Alexandra wrote 496 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: to Rasputin at a moment of extreme grief and sadness 497 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: and emotional distress, and which she talks about, You know, 498 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: I'm only able to, you know, feel at peace and 499 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: at ease when i can rest my head on your shoulder, 500 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: when I'm in your presence, when I feel your warmth 501 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: around me. And Eliador basically held on to this letter 502 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: as as as a weapon to use against Resputin when 503 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: the time came, and he did just that. Copies of 504 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: the letter were made, they spread throughout society, and it 505 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: became the basis of this notion that there was a 506 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: sexual relationship between Resputin and the Empress. There never was 507 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: any such relationship. But again, this information was brought before 508 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: for Nicholas, and he was presented with the actual letter, 509 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: and he said, yes, this is Alexandra's handwriting, took the letter, 510 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: put it in his destroyer and basically said, we will 511 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: not speak of these matters further. But the letter and 512 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: its implications didn't stop with Nicholas. It reached the aristocratic salons, 513 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: where rumors from palace maids had prepared the way for 514 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: the worst interpretations of the letter to take hold, and 515 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: it reached members of the Duma, the Russian parliament, where 516 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: politicians who opposed the Czar saw the opportunity to revive 517 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: the outcry against Rasputin as a way of weakening the 518 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: already weak Romanovs. So once again, the truth behind the 519 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: letters almost didn't matter. What mattered was that it seemed 520 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: to confirm the worst suspicions that were already in the air, 521 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: and when it came to Alexander's private life. There were 522 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: plenty of unanswered questions and court resentments that fed the flame. 523 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: After all, Alexander had become a mysterious figure in Russian society. 524 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: To the people around her, she seemed secretive and conniving, 525 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: and in fact, she seemed to line up perfectly with 526 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: their suspicions of people from outside Russia who took up 527 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: positions of power there. Apparently none of these malicious prejudices 528 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: had gone away. Of course, looking back, we now know 529 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: that at least part of why Alexandra often retreated from 530 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: company in the Russian court was because she was in 531 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: chronic pain and suffered through the illnesses that she dealt 532 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: with year after year. We would hope for a little 533 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: more generosity and a little more mercy from people living 534 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: through the things she suffered, but there was none of 535 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: that in Imperial Russia. Here's Ellen rappaport to say a 536 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: bit more time and again, I you know, I saw 537 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: letters and comments or diaries from the girls or members 538 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: of court. Oh, you know, the family would do to 539 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: go to the theater or to something, and Alexandra would 540 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: either drop out or go home early because she wasn't 541 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: feeling well, and she was all the always the party pooper, 542 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: you know, the one who you know was indisposed. And 543 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: so time again you see Nicholas taking his girls to 544 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: the ballet or to the opera without their mother, and 545 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: Alexandra just wasn't a present socially at all. Alexandra, time 546 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: and time again the girls would say a little note 547 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: so in their diaries, Oh, mother couldn't come down to 548 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: lunch because she had a headache and she wasn't feeling 549 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: very well. So much of the Empress's private life was 550 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: hidden from the eyes of even those nearby. In Iliadora's 551 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: poisonous insinuations added to the rumors that filled in the 552 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: blanks of it was a weapon that didn't just strike Resputing, 553 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: even as Nicholas tried to blunt its edge, It hit 554 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: Alexandra too. It becomes part of the basis for the 555 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: myth that not only is Resputing offering spiritual sucker emotional comfort, 556 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: but that in fact he's engaged in a sexual relationship 557 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: with the Empress, which then later grows metastasizes to the 558 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: point that he's also sleeping with the daughters of Alexandra. 559 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: In fact, even gets one of them pregnant, and that 560 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: there's talk that Alex Say, the heir to the throne, 561 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: is in fact the bastard child of Resputing, and all 562 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: the stuff just gets more outlandish and crazier as the 563 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: years progress. And for someone like her who preferred to 564 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: keep her private life private, the lies were monstrous, They 565 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: were appalling, and they were absolutely crucially damaging, because not 566 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: only within Russia was she hurried, prided and demonized and 567 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: feet should in ugly sexual cartoons with rasput and some 568 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: of them quite pornographic. In fact, these were in circulation 569 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: in Russia, but of course this spread across the Western 570 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: press in Britain and America. The gossip was appalling, you know, 571 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: the talk that they were having a sexual relationship was 572 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: utterly absurd, and when people ask me about it, I'll say, 573 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: I'm just not going there because it's so ridiculous. But 574 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: the trouble is all that scandal and gossip, and it 575 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: was absolutely fetid based on the third fourth hand gossip 576 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: and rumor and innuendo. There was not a grain of 577 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,439 Speaker 1: truth in any of it, but of course that kind 578 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 1: of mudge if there's enough of it sticks in the end. 579 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 1: The letter it was taken as an admission of guilt. 580 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: The fiction was taken as fact. It was undoubtedly false, 581 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: but it unleashed a flood of anger and fury against 582 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: the Romanovs and against Rasputin. It became the enduring thing 583 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: that people remember umber about Grigory rest Sputin embedded right 584 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 1: in the lyrics of the bony m song of his name, 585 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: that he was the lover of the Russian Queen. The 586 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: Romanovs did what they could to answer the lie. They 587 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 1: tried to claw back Alexander's reputation, but Eliodora's partying shot 588 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: had struck home. The mad monk went on the run. 589 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: He disappeared into the shadows, off the stage for a time, 590 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: and yet the damage was done. Shots rang out. It 591 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: was intermission at the opera house. Nicholas had taken two 592 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: of his daughter's Olga and Tatiana, to see the Tale 593 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: of the Czar Sultan. But he wasn't the only one. 594 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,399 Speaker 1: A revolutionary anarchist had come with murder on his mind. 595 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: He meant to change the shape of the Russian Empire 596 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: with his revolver at close range, and he did it too. 597 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: The bullets struck home and killed the prime minister stoy Leapin. 598 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,919 Speaker 1: Nicholas later remembered that stoy Leapin had turned and made 599 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: a sign of the cross in the air. As he 600 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: grew pale, blood was smeared on the right arm of 601 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: his jacket. It took four days for the Tsar's right 602 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: hand man to die. This was one more active violence 603 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: that was laid at Restputant's feet. The papers wondered whether 604 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,240 Speaker 1: Grigory had somehow been part of the plot of the assassination. 605 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,280 Speaker 1: It was pure fabrication, But what tragedies weren't being blamed 606 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: on the holy man from Siberia. Nicholas was spurred into action. 607 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: Things were spiraling out of control, so he threw caution 608 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: to the wind. As publishers spun up the presses to 609 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: run articles and booklets on the mystical sex maniacs supporting 610 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: the Empress, Nicholas did everything he could to reverse the 611 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 1: concessions he had made in nineteen o five. In his eyes, 612 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: the freedom of the press wasn't working. The attempts he 613 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: made to allow for representative government were falling short. His 614 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: Empress was being derided, his ministers murdered, and even monarchists 615 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: were fighting against him. It was time to reassert his 616 00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: god given authority. It was time for violence. The Moscow 617 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: branch of the Okrana rated the printing office where a 618 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: book against Resputant was being printed. They smashed the presses, 619 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: seized the books, and shut down the operation. The author, 620 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: with his original manuscript tucked away, went on the run. 621 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 1: A message was sent to the governor of the city, 622 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: silenced every mention of Restputan, not the barest whisper was 623 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: allowed to reach the page. With the secret police rampaging 624 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 1: throughout the city, the governor agreed. Over the course of 625 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: the next few months, stories about Resputant brought on harsh reprisals, 626 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: but the voices of Russian writers had been set free 627 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: by the edicts of nineteen o five, and it was 628 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: far too late to cage them back up again. Publishers, 629 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 1: determined to hold onto their new found freedoms, continued to 630 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: print stories about Resputin, and the more the Tsar's forces 631 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: attempted to silence those stories, the more certain the people 632 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: became grigory. Resputin, the devil of lust, had his grip 633 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 1: on the Russian throne. That's it for this week's episode 634 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: of Unobscured. Stick around after this short sponsor break for 635 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: a preview of what's in store for next week. The 636 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 1: throne was in danger, the Church was in danger, the 637 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 1: very state of Russia itself. No revolutionary or foreign missionary 638 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: had done what rest Sputin had done. The Imperial family 639 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,280 Speaker 1: was stained. A vestige of the dark Ages had risen 640 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: up and taken the Czar of Russia into his hands. 641 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: That was the message that thundered out into the Russian parliament, 642 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: the Duma, on March eighth of nineteen twelve. The speaker, 643 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: Alexander Gukov, was a politician who had been working to 644 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: reform the Russian government since the Revolution of nineteen o five. 645 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: Now he was taking direct aim at the Czar, and 646 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: Nicholas took it personally. After all, this speech was in 647 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,839 Speaker 1: open defiance of his power, and in a time when 648 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: the press and the Church and even the supporters of 649 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: the Empire had gone against the crown, this was a 650 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 1: new low. 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