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Now, when you have done some of your 11 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: work into some of these ancient symbolizations, Zecharia Sitchen, you're 12 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: familiar with his work, right absolutely. Um talked a lot 13 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: about the Sumerians and the Auto Naki. How far back 14 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: do you go? Well, there's that's a difficult, um place 15 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: to stop because as you start going back, you go 16 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: further and further further, and then you start just keeps 17 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: going right. Um. So I tried to capped our discussion tonight. 18 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: It's going to be really including including around the whole 19 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: twelve thousand a year period. Um, I'm going to extend 20 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: just to briefly talk about Atlantis, which which existed before 21 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: before that. But we're gonna we're gonna try to keep 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: it around what I considered just around the post and 23 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,199 Speaker 1: prediluvial time period, which is of course this greedy great 24 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: catastrophes and this great flood that happened. We're going to 25 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: talk about. Are you going to speculate on where you 26 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: think Atlantis was located? Oh? Absolutely, we can. We can. 27 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: We can go all into that. I love, this is 28 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: kind of where I live. So yeah, let's let's go 29 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: right into it. Okay, let's let's let's do that. Give 30 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: me your thoughts on Atlantis. And you know, Plato of 31 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: course was the reason why we all started investigating this. 32 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: But you know, there's been some debate over where Atlantis 33 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: might be. Some say it's, you know, near Greece. Others say, no, 34 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: not at all, it's in Edgar Casey said it was 35 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: in biminy Um. Who knows where it is. They said 36 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: Atlantis to be that sounds like Atlanta take ocean, what's 37 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: your take? That's right? And that and that's a clue 38 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: to where it was. I think part of the problem 39 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: with determining where exactly it was, is that perhaps the 40 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: place that existed in is no longer where it used 41 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 1: to be because we had these shifts, We had these 42 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: potential catastrophes that occurred, and shifts in both are potentially 43 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: even the pole of the Earth, which had these impacts 44 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: on some of the land masses. And I think strong 45 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: evidence really shows that places like Atlantis, the small subcontinent 46 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: that existed on if you look at the works of 47 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: Plato talking about how it existed west to the Pillars 48 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: of Hercules, and today if you can clearly see that 49 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: that's the Strait of Gibraltar, and so that gives us 50 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: some gives some clues right there. And yet isn't it 51 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: amazing that today much of you know, Plato is considered 52 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,839 Speaker 1: one of the greatest philosophers of all time, and yet 53 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: in is in the Timmis and Creatious who wrote extensively 54 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: about Atlantis. But like all these things we're about to 55 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: talk about, we've been perhaps pushed into believing that their 56 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: myths rather than accepting that they could have existed from 57 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: one of the most renowned philosophers we had. And what 58 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: Plato said is Atlantis existed nine thousand years before him, 59 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: and he of course was a heavy study of ancient 60 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: Egyptian knowledge and and one of the things we're going 61 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: to go over is looking at how that time period 62 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 1: he gives for Atlantis being nine thousand years before him 63 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: lines up exactly with and he says, disappearing nine years 64 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: before him lines up exactly with what we're about to 65 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: go over for how there were advanced civilizations in the 66 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: past that we're essentially wiped out and destroyed. And that's 67 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: and that's how we have a reset button on all 68 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: this information, and that's why we don't really understand why 69 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: so many of these sophisticated things could have been built 70 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: and how we couldn't even necessarily do them today. Matthew, 71 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: did you think Atlantis possessed incredible technology? I do. I 72 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: think Atlantis was a civilization that that ended up proceeding 73 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: the La Murian civilization, which of course was in the 74 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: Pacific Ocean, I think, connecting a lot of the Pacific 75 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: islands and all we have took to the Hawaiian area, 76 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: and I think, like Atlantis, it was also destroyed possibly 77 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: before Atlantis and then I so I think Atlantis was 78 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: the last great civilization that occurred on this planet in 79 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: terms of advanced technology like we think of almost today, 80 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: but I think it was on a completely different scale. 81 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: Don't think, I don't think futuristic with you know, cars 82 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: flying around. It was nothing like that. But think of 83 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: technology being utilized where it was on a much different 84 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: level than we have today in terms of tapping into 85 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: you know, the energy of the Earth. Talking about Nicola 86 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: Tesla's work where he figured out that there's this whole 87 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: side of of our planet and energy, and that these 88 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: ancients would would understand and use for both for both 89 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: m pertaining protecting knowledge and reaching their highest state. And 90 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons why to this day, if 91 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: you look at where all the most of the ancient 92 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: pyramids in these in these structures all of the world, 93 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: they're built on these exact precise locations on what are 94 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: called lay lines on the Earth, these energy centers on 95 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: the Earth. So Atlantis and the civilization of Atlantis, they 96 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: knew all about that, but one of the problem was 97 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: they started to get into some of the more dark 98 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: sides of this technology, and along with the Earth changes, 99 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: the what Plato and others have talked about is Atlantis 100 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: was completely destroyed. There was nothing less that that survived. 101 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: Did they even have a notice that they that they 102 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: have time to prepare? They did um A lot of 103 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: these these civilizations were so advanced and the knowledge they 104 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: had was so sophisticated they actually knew that this was 105 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 1: going to happen. And so one of the amazing things 106 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: to connect we're gonna do tonight is when you look 107 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: at the age of like let's say, the Pyramid of Giza, 108 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: and when and when these you know, these air shafts 109 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: that are aligned with Orion, and when you look at 110 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: when that last occurred due to the processional wobble of 111 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: the earth, and you look at the date of ten 112 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: thousand five years ago when which this is which is 113 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: where computer models can line up that occurred. And you 114 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: think about how the people of Atlantis or supposedly left 115 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: Atlantis before the cataclysm, and they and and thought one 116 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: of the great gods of Egypt, he says that he 117 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: first went to Egypt and they called he called it 118 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: out Kem. He called it the land of Kem. And 119 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: when and that's when he says in the Emerald Tablets, 120 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: he he built the pyramids of Egypt. Which is amazing 121 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: because if if you again, look at those star constellations. 122 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: When they lined up to those stars, it's ten thousand, 123 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: five hundred years ago, which would be exactly what right 124 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: after Atlantis was destroyed, going along with these emerald tallets. 125 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: So you basically, if you take the ancient stories of 126 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: the past and you look at them objectively and you 127 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: compare them to what we're going to go over with 128 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: ice core samples and a lot of this and this 129 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: information that proves when these events occurred, you can you 130 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: can put it all into a timeline and you can 131 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: start to accurately show the real ages of some of 132 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: these places. How accurate do you think the Bible is 133 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: with these times? I think the dates in the Bible 134 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: are all pretty much wrong. I think we need to 135 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: look at something. You know, there are a lot of 136 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: important things to understand the Bible. The Bible, from all 137 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: the evidence that I've seen, is based on all of 138 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: these ancient Sumerian and Babylonian writings that were then rewritten 139 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: and turned into slightly different forms of what they used 140 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: to be. And we're going to go over, of course 141 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: the most important one of all, which is the story 142 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: of Noah, which has been turned into a complete joke, 143 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: and we're gonna understand that. So if we look at 144 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: a lot of these things that are in the Bible 145 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: and we understand that there's based on much earlier stories, 146 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: well I've got it. I've got a difficult time under 147 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: standing the Noah's story, Matthew, where they talk about he 148 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: brought you know, the species of animals on his arc. 149 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: I just don't there's too many animals to do this. 150 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: And well, yeah, we're going to go into this later, 151 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: but I can, I can, I can touch on this 152 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: right now. That's one of the ways that the Bible 153 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: has misled us, so that because if people read these 154 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: stories and they were in their pure forms of what 155 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: they used to be, people would all of a sudden 156 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: be like, wait, is this real? Are these actually historical 157 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: events or are they these you know, these religious stories 158 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 1: that kind of teach us morals about the earth and 159 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: about our our sins and what we've done against it. Well, 160 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: the Bible version, of course, confuses that Noah story like 161 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: crazy because it starts talking about it brings in all 162 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: these contorted information about how there's one and one of 163 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: two of every animal on the earth that Noah let 164 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: in all these things where we're about to go into 165 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: new form tablets. There I'll call the Adrejesis and eplic 166 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 1: Epic of Gilgamesh, which doesn't say anything about that. It 167 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: simply says. It simply says that that Rajesis, which was 168 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: the name of Noah, that he had to take his 169 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: family and some of his livestock to survive the flood, 170 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: save as many living things as he could. But they 171 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: took that and they turned it around to try to 172 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: give this, you know, silly little idea that there's you know, 173 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: millions of species of different things on his boat, which 174 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: is his ridiculous its it's crazy. Now, how could they 175 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 1: even try to concoct the story? Though? Well, if we 176 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: mean something parting to answer, because so if we look 177 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: back at, well, where did this all start? At what 178 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: point did these did the modern Bible, you know, when 179 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: did Christianity and when when did all of this begin begin? 180 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: Where they took these writings and then rewrote them. And 181 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: one of the things that I talked about in my 182 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: um the Battle of the Eagle and the Serpent, is 183 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: that if you go back to the Roman times when 184 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: the Roman Empire, the busy tee eagle was collapsing, you 185 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: find that it completely changed over to becoming the head 186 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: of the Christian Church basically because you can trace it 187 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: back to the Busy Kene Empire, which is where the 188 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: rise of It began, which is simply Turkey, and and 189 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: that's where these stories were essentially rewritten and turned into 190 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: fairy tales so that people people could worship the stories 191 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: and the beings in there, but not actually connect that 192 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: they were real events. So the story itself, something happened, right, 193 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: there was some kind of flood caused by something. Would 194 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: you agree there was? And I'm going to actually do 195 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: a short reading of the Entregesis, which I don't know 196 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: if it has ever been done before. I was just gonna, 197 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I picked out, um, a couple of paragraphs. 198 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: I just want to go over because one of the 199 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: problems with these ancient writings, you know, I'm you know, 200 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: I'm not I know, I know how it is. They're 201 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: they're long, you know, some of these tablets are They're very, 202 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: very long to read, and they're written in such a 203 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: way where they don't they don't write like we do now, 204 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: and they write in a very poetic, very um they're 205 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: like parables. Yeah, and so we it's hard. It's difficult 206 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: to understand and in separate well that they really they 207 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: being symbolic or they actually talking about truth and they 208 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: being and they being real. So I'm I broke out 209 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: some of the more important areas that we can we 210 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: can go over to prove that this, this great deluge, 211 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 1: in this, in this, these great catastrophes actually really occurred, 212 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: in that the figure of Noah, whose whose real name 213 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 1: was Adrejesis or Zaiah Sudra and he had many names, 214 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: that he's actually real. Listen to more Coast to Coast 215 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: AM every weeknight at one a m. Eastern and go 216 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: to Coast to Coast am dot com for more