Speaker 1: Practice are al fits Patrick touchdown. What a win for
Speaker 1: this Miami Dolphin team. Wow? What is up? Dolphins? And
Speaker 1: welcome to the Drive Time Podcast, part of the Miami
Speaker 1: Dolphins Official podcast network, covering your Miami Dolphins each and
Speaker 1: every day. How's it going everybody? It is Friday. I
Speaker 1: am your host, Travis Wingfield, and I am here to
Speaker 1: bring you your daily dose of Miami Dolphins football. And
Speaker 1: on today's show, this is the last time you're gonna
Speaker 1: hear from me before we have a mark in the
Speaker 1: win lost column. Because game day is on Sunday. We'll
Speaker 1: have you covered post game, but today we're gonna get
Speaker 1: you the last injury report for Sunday's game, the Keys
Speaker 1: to Victory, and we'll hear from Jay Fiedler as we
Speaker 1: flash it back to two thousand when the Dolphins went
Speaker 1: into New England and took home the a f C
Speaker 1: East Crown. All of that and more on this Friday,
Speaker 1: September the eleven edition of the Drive Time Podcast, However,
Speaker 1: and as we do every Wednesday Thursday Friday, we're gonna
Speaker 1: start with the injury report on the Drivetime Podcast, and
Speaker 1: it is good news on the Dolphins injury front. Seven
Speaker 1: players listed as full participants in practice on Friday, with
Speaker 1: Clayton Fedgerland the safety listed as limited. He will be
Speaker 1: doubtful for the game, but Mike a Sicki, Xaviing Howard,
Speaker 1: Byron Jones, DeVante Parker, to A Tonga Byloa, Kyle van Noy,
Speaker 1: and Preston Williams all full participants on Friday and are
Speaker 1: expected to play on Sunday For the Patriots. Two players
Speaker 1: listed as out who did not practice on Friday, wide
Speaker 1: receiver Gunner Oshowsky and offensive lineman Yannikuld just four players
Speaker 1: questionable and wide receiver Nakill Harry, tight end Dalton King,
Speaker 1: linebacker Cash Malawia, defensive lineman Chase Winovic, and two players
Speaker 1: who were listed on Thursday are no longer on the report,
Speaker 1: and receiver Julian Edelman and cornerback Stefon Gilmour will both play.
Speaker 1: So that's your injury report heading into Sunday up in Foxborough.
Speaker 1: And if you haven't checked it out yet, John Conjemmy's
Speaker 1: three keys are back on Miami Dolphins dot Com. He
Speaker 1: also will have three takeaways on Sunday night. Not gonna
Speaker 1: read the details of the story, you can check it
Speaker 1: out for yourself. But here John talks about being better
Speaker 1: fundamentally for the Patriots game, key aspect of winning that
Speaker 1: game when the turnover margin is key number two, and
Speaker 1: limit unscripted plays from Cam Newton. He talks about any
Speaker 1: time you face a dual threat quarterback like Cam Newton,
Speaker 1: you must expect the unexpected. So go check out John
Speaker 1: Conemmis three keys. Go check out my Dolphins and Patriots preview,
Speaker 1: taking a look at all the personnel usage, the snap
Speaker 1: counts from last year, the players they had to replace,
Speaker 1: the key matchups. Tons of good content for you guys
Speaker 1: for this game. Ahead of this game on Sunday up
Speaker 1: on Miami Dolphins dot com. Okay, let's go ahead and
Speaker 1: spend things backwards towards the flashback two thousand season. It
Speaker 1: was the first year the Dolphins were without Dan Marino
Speaker 1: as the opening day quarterback since n re his rookie season.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the season finale that year up
Speaker 1: in New England a Christmas Eve games sept or December,
Speaker 1: rather up in Foxborough, Dolphins win at four on a
Speaker 1: late Olindo mar A field goal. The Dolphins began that
Speaker 1: season red hot out of the Gates beating the Seahawks.
Speaker 1: They dropped week two to the Vikings, then whip rip
Speaker 1: off four more wins in a row. After that, lose
Speaker 1: to the Jets on the Monday Night miracle, which we'll
Speaker 1: talk to J about that. I think the one three
Speaker 1: games after that, lost one again to the stinking Jets,
Speaker 1: then one two games, lost two more and then one
Speaker 1: in New England to go to eleven and five to
Speaker 1: capture the a f C East. And in that particular game,
Speaker 1: it was a crazy one. We're gonna talk to J
Speaker 1: about the details of how that game ended for you
Speaker 1: longtime Dolphins fans out there. You know, they had to
Speaker 1: win the division twice because they were brought back onto
Speaker 1: the field for the final play of that game. A
Speaker 1: good fourth quarter comeback of Dolphins scored ten points in
Speaker 1: that fourth quarter to close a deficit with a one
Speaker 1: yard Lamar Smith touched on run with four minutes to
Speaker 1: go to tie the game, and then a field goal
Speaker 1: with nine seconds left from forty nine yards from Olindo Mare,
Speaker 1: who avenged a twenty eight yard miss earlier in that half.
Speaker 1: And the big difference in the game was the fact
Speaker 1: that Dolphins protected the football didn't turn it over. The
Speaker 1: Patriots turned it over three times in that game. They
Speaker 1: did outgain Miami three hundred forty eight three hundred ten yards,
Speaker 1: but the Dolphins out possessed the Patriots thirty five to
Speaker 1: twenty five minutes. On the time of possession third downs,
Speaker 1: Dolphins were eight of seventeen, Patriots were four of ten,
Speaker 1: so pretty even there. As far as the individual stats,
Speaker 1: Lamar Smith just could not get it going on this day.
Speaker 1: Twenty carries, twenty six yards, scored two touchdowns. We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk to j about that and kind of how the
Speaker 1: Dolphins had to adapt their approach to offense on that day.
Speaker 1: As he threw the ball forty five times, completed thirty
Speaker 1: of them for two hundred and sixty four yards one touchdown,
Speaker 1: was sacked a pair of times. And it seems like
Speaker 1: every time you go back to these old school games
Speaker 1: and you look at the box scores, there's Jason Taylor
Speaker 1: with an interception, there's Zack tom Mus with an interception,
Speaker 1: and a fumble recovery from Brock Marion on a hell
Speaker 1: of a play from Derek Rodgers who punched the ball
Speaker 1: out of Jermaine Wiggins hands going into the end zone
Speaker 1: really kind of turned the tide of that game. Let's
Speaker 1: go ahead now and get to my guest, Jay Fiedler,
Speaker 1: who talks about the Dolphins a f C East clinching
Speaker 1: win in New England week seventeen December of two thousand
Speaker 1: and writing Shotgun here on the Drive Time podcast. Is
Speaker 1: Dolphins quarterback from two thousand to two thousand four. He
Speaker 1: won a pair of division titles here in Miami, including
Speaker 1: that epic come from behind when over the Colts in
Speaker 1: the two thousand wild card playoffs. He is Jay Fiedler. Jay,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for jumping on with us. Man.
Speaker 1: Absolutely good to be here with you. Travis. Well, Jay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the season finale in two thousand,
Speaker 1: but first I want to go back to the start
Speaker 1: of the season that year, because we've got Opening Day
Speaker 1: right around the corner here in Miami and that shutout
Speaker 1: victory over the Seattle Seahawks, my hometown Seahawks, and I
Speaker 1: just want to get your thoughts on what it was
Speaker 1: like for you with the opening day nerves or jitter.
Speaker 1: Did you have any of that going into that first year,
Speaker 1: especially your first year of starting here. I was the
Speaker 1: quarterback in Miami. Uh. Well, you know, you have your excitement.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call it nerves. Uh. You know, it was
Speaker 1: a long road for me to get to a position
Speaker 1: where I was a full time starting quarterback in the league.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I granded it out. I worked
Speaker 1: myself up. Uh, you know, from being out of the
Speaker 1: league for a couple of years, coming back in Minnesota
Speaker 1: for a year, uh, getting my first start in first
Speaker 1: real action uh ninety nine with the with the Jacksonville Jaguars, UM.
Speaker 1: And then uh you know, coming into uh to the
Speaker 1: Dolphins and having a chance to to compete for a
Speaker 1: starting job, and you know, going out and being the
Speaker 1: leader uh in the clubhouse basically for for you know,
Speaker 1: most of the preseason and going into training camp and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, and then I had a hip injury and
Speaker 1: I don't know what was gonna happen. I had surgery
Speaker 1: on my hope me out for for three weeks right
Speaker 1: in the middle of the preseason. They will come back
Speaker 1: that last preseason game and then uh, and then the
Speaker 1: season started and uh I was out there and it
Speaker 1: was you know, it was exciting. It was you know,
Speaker 1: a long journey to get there. You know, but my
Speaker 1: makeup has always been, you know, to be very even keel,
Speaker 1: to be very uh you know, focused on on a
Speaker 1: task at hand. And uh uh you know, I felt
Speaker 1: like I was very prepared going into that first game.
Speaker 1: So so the nerves you know, really weren't uh you know,
Speaker 1: uh weren't there for me. It was more excitement about
Speaker 1: getting out and starting the season. Now, I feel like
Speaker 1: that's got to be just a difference between athletes and
Speaker 1: non athlete because even as a fan, sometimes Jay like,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there an hour before kickoff, like, man, I am,
Speaker 1: my stomach is turning over right now, and I'm not
Speaker 1: even going out there to play. And like back in
Speaker 1: my day is like a baseball player, friends, I would
Speaker 1: get to the to the plate and be like, man,
Speaker 1: this is too much for me to handle. So I
Speaker 1: think that maybe there's no doubt. You know, the pregame genners,
Speaker 1: you know, they happen for everyone, and you know, the
Speaker 1: there's routines that everyone goes through in the locker room,
Speaker 1: and some are more nervous than others, and some have
Speaker 1: to you know, use the facilities a little bit more.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, but I think, you know, the
Speaker 1: guys that go out and know that they're prepared. You know,
Speaker 1: once the once the ball is snapped and the game
Speaker 1: starts up, you know, everything else is lost, and uh
Speaker 1: you just go out there and perform and do your duty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good point. I was thinking about the any
Speaker 1: given Sunday, the Willie Beamon, you know, in the locker
Speaker 1: room you mentioned kind of using the facilities a little extra.
Speaker 1: Was there anybody on team that in your time in
Speaker 1: the NFL that kind of had that routine of going
Speaker 1: to the bathroom and getting some stuff out. Uh, not
Speaker 1: that I know of. You know, I wasn't hanging out
Speaker 1: in the bathroom, you know, looking for for people, but
Speaker 1: uh yeah, there were definitely people that went in and out,
Speaker 1: you know, more than a few times. So you guys
Speaker 1: get that season opening, when you get the first win
Speaker 1: under your belt, probably really helps calm the nerves. From there,
Speaker 1: the season progresses on and it's one of kind of streaks,
Speaker 1: you know, a bunch of wins and then a lost
Speaker 1: sandwiched in there, and they were stopped twice by I'm
Speaker 1: going to use PC language here, the freaking Jets j
Speaker 1: And you know, as a fan, games can kind of
Speaker 1: linger for days and sometimes even all the way up
Speaker 1: until the next Sunday. But I know that you guys,
Speaker 1: as players, have the twenty four hour rule, right, you
Speaker 1: get over a game twenty four hours later. I have
Speaker 1: to imagine that Monday night monstrosity as we'll call it,
Speaker 1: had to push past one day of thinking about that game, right, Well,
Speaker 1: that was that wasn't an easy one to get over,
Speaker 1: you know. Obviously you know that that that game went
Speaker 1: into about two three in the morning by the time
Speaker 1: that we were done with it and out of the
Speaker 1: stadium and uh, you know on the plane right at home,
Speaker 1: which was an awful plane ride. You know, not only
Speaker 1: you in the middle of the night, you know, going
Speaker 1: into the next morning exhausted, uh from it, but you know,
Speaker 1: you just lost a heartbreaking game and uh um you know,
Speaker 1: but like you said, you know, we were all pre fessionals. Uh,
Speaker 1: it was a tough one to get past. But you know,
Speaker 1: we took the next day off. Um. You know, obviously
Speaker 1: certain people went in and got uh uh you know,
Speaker 1: some treatment and workouts and and just recovery day. But
Speaker 1: you know, by the time we got back to work
Speaker 1: on Wednesday, it was on to the next game, and uh,
Speaker 1: and you know, we knew we were still in good
Speaker 1: position right there. You know, it wasn't like, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: we lost and we were knocked out of contention for anything.
Speaker 1: Um you know, was it was a tough loss against
Speaker 1: the big rival and and uh you know something that
Speaker 1: you know, like we said, was it was a real heartbreaker.
Speaker 1: But uh, you know, we knew we were still you know,
Speaker 1: I think we were five and two at the time
Speaker 1: after that game, so you know, we we were in
Speaker 1: great position going forward to continue and having a good season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sure a bunch of Dolphins fans children went to
Speaker 1: bed that night thinking six and one, that wake up
Speaker 1: five and two a rough go there. We we had
Speaker 1: the uh the Jason Taylor Poker Foundation tournament the other
Speaker 1: day and he was talking about that game a little bit.
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, try being miked up for that game,
Speaker 1: because he got caught a few times, you know, giving
Speaker 1: the Jets fans a little bit of a ribbing on
Speaker 1: the side. He got caught with with me on on tape. Also, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, coming over and I didn't even realize he
Speaker 1: was miked up or anything, but uh, you know it
Speaker 1: was funny. Uh you know going into that game, you
Speaker 1: know that I think it was a six or seven
Speaker 1: game losing streak to the Jets. Uh. And then also,
Speaker 1: you know, the Jets had had a few comeback victories
Speaker 1: earlier in the in the year, uh that year, so
Speaker 1: you know, uh, you know, we got out to the
Speaker 1: big lead and we were, you know, feeling great on
Speaker 1: the sideline, and you know, all the talk all week
Speaker 1: was you know, how the Jets had our number and
Speaker 1: uh and you know they had some big, you know,
Speaker 1: comeback victory. So I want, I can't. I went up
Speaker 1: to him and we were just talking and and we
Speaker 1: were just uh, you know, bannering back and forth, and
Speaker 1: I say, let's and you know, when I gonna let
Speaker 1: them come back on us, you know today like they
Speaker 1: have you know, the past few games. And and that
Speaker 1: got caught on tape and I know, uh, you know
Speaker 1: that that gets replayed every single time. But you know,
Speaker 1: for me, it was more you know, talking about, hey,
Speaker 1: let's go out and do it. We're not gonna let
Speaker 1: them come back. And you know, uh, that one backfired
Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, you had that that bomb to
Speaker 1: I think it was Dietrich Ward right after the Jets
Speaker 1: kind of had that touchdown to initially come back, and
Speaker 1: that was when I was like, Okay, this game is
Speaker 1: right back where we wanted. It's in the books, but
Speaker 1: didn't go that way. And yeah, I threw that too soon.
Speaker 1: I should have waited a few plays. We gave them
Speaker 1: too much time to come back, and uh, get the
Speaker 1: jumbo elliot and the ends out of the end there. Hey,
Speaker 1: somebody had to say his name. I'll let you do
Speaker 1: with their jumbo freaking Elliott man. But you guys did
Speaker 1: rebound j You won the division in week seventeen. Obviously
Speaker 1: a couple of months later with the win over the Patriots,
Speaker 1: and the really interesting aspect of that game comes late
Speaker 1: on the final play. Let's go ahead and go back
Speaker 1: to the top, though, and circle back to that moment
Speaker 1: and conclude with that. I want to first talk about
Speaker 1: maybe the game plan or maybe it was just the
Speaker 1: way the game evolved for you guys, because going into
Speaker 1: that game that season, you guys threw the ball fo
Speaker 1: one times you ran at four six, a balance that
Speaker 1: today is unheard of in the NFL. And I want
Speaker 1: to go somewhere with this point just in a second.
Speaker 1: But first I'm curious J because how do you, as
Speaker 1: a quarterback approach then compared to now? How is your
Speaker 1: approach different when maybe you didn't know how many opportunities
Speaker 1: you might have in a game where it's more about
Speaker 1: running the football and controlling the clock compared to today
Speaker 1: where guys are throwing the ball four times every single game.
Speaker 1: Does that change the approach for the quarterback? You think? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Can you know? I think, uh, you know, the game
Speaker 1: is certainly evolved a lot, and uh, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: the passing game is kind of you know as a
Speaker 1: is extension of the running again. You know, all the
Speaker 1: quick passes, this quick screens, the dumps underneath. It's basically
Speaker 1: like you know, the safe running plays now, but they're
Speaker 1: doing it in the air and spreading, spreading teams out
Speaker 1: and you know, there's so much athleticism out there on
Speaker 1: the field, you know, to to to give guys a
Speaker 1: chance to just get into open space. And that's you know,
Speaker 1: that's the way the games played now, you know, as
Speaker 1: compared to uh, you know, back twenty years ago. And
Speaker 1: and you know certainly if you go back to to
Speaker 1: this to the seventies Dolphins, uh, you know, the power
Speaker 1: running game and and and you know, being able to
Speaker 1: to exert your will up front with the with the
Speaker 1: strong offensive line and a run game and control of
Speaker 1: the clock. Uh you know that was part of uh,
Speaker 1: you know, really managing managing a football game. But uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I think when when the rules started to change,
Speaker 1: uh you know, uh, restricting defensive backs from from really
Speaker 1: impeding and and getting uh you know, on the receivers. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, increasing the the amount of past interference calls
Speaker 1: that are out there are uh you know, the passing
Speaker 1: game became a heck of a lot more effective. And
Speaker 1: now you see it, you know, being utilized that way.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, and that and that's why you see,
Speaker 1: you know, number one, that the tight ends is so
Speaker 1: much more in play nowadays, and they than they were
Speaker 1: in the past. Uh because pass interference. Uh you know,
Speaker 1: you can't you can't hit a defenseless receiver anymore. You know.
Speaker 1: Back in that day, you know, if you throw a
Speaker 1: tight end across the middle and uh you know he
Speaker 1: jumps up for the ball, he's getting his head knocked
Speaker 1: off and you know, probably gonna be out of the
Speaker 1: game for a little bit of while a little while.
Speaker 1: You know, now you can't target anyone that way. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're a six ft six pound uh
Speaker 1: guy running down the middle of the field, there aren't
Speaker 1: too much any defensive packs that's gonna hit you in
Speaker 1: the stomach or the ribs and and and knock out. Uh.
Speaker 1: So you know the risk reward of of throwing the
Speaker 1: ball now, Uh, you know, it's a lot far you know,
Speaker 1: a lot more on the reward side than it was,
Speaker 1: you know, twenty years ago. Yeah, I'm sure you'd love
Speaker 1: to have your completion percentage boosted by the extension of
Speaker 1: the running game, right those little quick hitters and swings
Speaker 1: and exactly the screens, the bubbles, the quick dumps, the
Speaker 1: shovel passes, you know, you you name it. You know
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it when the guys take
Speaker 1: the take the handoff and just toss it forward to
Speaker 1: you know, to a wildcat guy coming across. And now
Speaker 1: you get, you know, sixty yards worth of of a
Speaker 1: reception and uh, you know one for one of the
Speaker 1: sixty yards, I tossed it to two inches to the
Speaker 1: guy in front of me, just handed it off four
Speaker 1: instead of behind you. It's just pretty pretty nice little
Speaker 1: stab booster there. But do ask about the balance because
Speaker 1: you threw the ball forty five times of the foe
Speaker 1: in that particular game compared to twenty carries for Lamar
Speaker 1: and he only had twenty six yards in that game,
Speaker 1: albeit two rushing touchdowns. Was that a case of and
Speaker 1: we're talking about a coach who still there in New England?
Speaker 1: Was that a case of Bill Belichick maybe saying, your guys,
Speaker 1: not you're not gonna run the ball on us, You're
Speaker 1: gonna be u with Jay Fiedler. And how did the
Speaker 1: lack of success on the ground and impact your approach
Speaker 1: to the game. Well, so you know, certainly, uh, you
Speaker 1: know that was really a game playing uh decision, and
Speaker 1: it also you know, it was a matter of the
Speaker 1: course of the game too. You know, we got behind early,
Speaker 1: I think a couple of touchdowns, so you know, we
Speaker 1: were a little bit more reliant on using the passing
Speaker 1: game to uh, you know, to to to make a
Speaker 1: comeback and and uh, you know, get back in the game,
Speaker 1: and and uh, you know, in addition to that, obviously,
Speaker 1: you know, Bill Belichick is a guy that's you know,
Speaker 1: gonna try and take away what you what you do best,
Speaker 1: and what we did best, you know, for the majority
Speaker 1: of that season was you know, control the game with
Speaker 1: the runs. So you know, they were stacking the line early,
Speaker 1: you don't allowed us to to to make some plays
Speaker 1: in in the passing game. We had some you know,
Speaker 1: some good one on one matchups on the outside that
Speaker 1: we were able to take advantage of. And uh, um,
Speaker 1: you know, I think we passed the ball over forty
Speaker 1: times uh that game. Uh. And uh you know really
Speaker 1: you know allowed us to to to move the ball
Speaker 1: and be effective. You know the fact that they stacked
Speaker 1: the line up and left us with some you know,
Speaker 1: some opportunities on the outside. You mentioned the kind of
Speaker 1: getting behind earlier in that game. I think the thing
Speaker 1: that probably sparked to come back initially was Derek Rodgers
Speaker 1: having one of the best strips I've ever seen. We
Speaker 1: talked about, you know, we see the guys practice out
Speaker 1: on the field every day here working on stripping from behind,
Speaker 1: but it never really happens in a game situation. But
Speaker 1: he did get the ball out of Jermaine Wiggins hands
Speaker 1: as he was getting close to the end zone and
Speaker 1: extended the lead to four team points there at the
Speaker 1: end of the third quarter. Now I'm curious, Jay momentum
Speaker 1: is a hot sports debate, a hot topic like doesn't
Speaker 1: exist in your opinion? Does momentum exist and how did
Speaker 1: it impact the game on that play? Oh? It absolutely exists. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, momentum is a huge factor, especially in the
Speaker 1: game of football, you know, where you get some ebbs
Speaker 1: and flows and and uh. Uh you know, hot team
Speaker 1: can can stay hot, uh until you know, a spark
Speaker 1: goes the other way. And you know, certainly uh you know,
Speaker 1: I mean watching Jeremy Wiggins catch the ball and run
Speaker 1: ahead of everyone on the defense. You know, it was
Speaker 1: something like, oh my god, here we were. You know,
Speaker 1: we're in the third quarter, We're about to go down
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, and and all of a sudden, Derek Rodgers
Speaker 1: comes flying from behind and and you see the ball
Speaker 1: go out and everyone's you know, hollering and yelling and
Speaker 1: uh and we jump on it. Uh. You know, it
Speaker 1: gave us a huge spark, you know, coming back uh
Speaker 1: into that game to be you know, only down seven
Speaker 1: points at that point. Uh, and have a chance, you know,
Speaker 1: to to to make it come back run. So after
Speaker 1: that play and all I have to go off of
Speaker 1: here Jays the YouTube highlight from NFL Prime Time, which
Speaker 1: it's great. By the way, there's like a little blip
Speaker 1: in the beginning that kind of the audio goes off,
Speaker 1: so it's like it shows you like the vintage level
Speaker 1: of it. I watched it that they just had a
Speaker 1: great time with it. But you come back right after
Speaker 1: that with a big scramble play, things kind of breakdown
Speaker 1: around you. You take it down to the plus nineteam
Speaker 1: yard line, and there's a lot to unpack here on
Speaker 1: this play. Let's go ahead and start off the top.
Speaker 1: Because Chris Berman, the you know, legendary esp and football
Speaker 1: voice of football there, mentions that you had more starts
Speaker 1: than any IVY League quarterback that year since the merger.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a real sense of pride for you,
Speaker 1: right well, certainly, And and Chris Burman being an IVY
Speaker 1: League guy himself, he's always looking to promote the you know,
Speaker 1: the IVY players that are out there, so uh uh,
Speaker 1: you know, certainly with fits down there and in Miami,
Speaker 1: he gets a lot of love from from Bourbon and
Speaker 1: uh you know, anytime there's a brown guy in the league,
Speaker 1: you know, they're getting highlighted every time. With him, But yeah,
Speaker 1: he was he was great. He loved me. Uh, you
Speaker 1: know at any time, he could highlight the guys in
Speaker 1: the ivy. You know, it was fun to listen to
Speaker 1: and and uh and hear him go out there. So
Speaker 1: you mentioned Fitzpatrick. Is there any like Dartmoer, Dartmouth Harvard
Speaker 1: trash talk that happens there between you? Do it between
Speaker 1: you two guys? Oh? Absolutely, any time we see each other,
Speaker 1: of course, there's no doubt about it. But uh, you
Speaker 1: know he's great, you know if Fits is such a
Speaker 1: great guy and and uh, you know it's been it's
Speaker 1: been real fun watching him, uh you know, uh play
Speaker 1: all over the all over the league and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: really fun the last couple of years seeing him down
Speaker 1: in Miami and uh uh you know, have the success
Speaker 1: that that that that that that he's had, and uh
Speaker 1: you know, he's a guy that just grinds it out
Speaker 1: and and you know it does whatever it takes to
Speaker 1: to go out and win. And uh, you know I
Speaker 1: love seeing that. Yeah, he's a lot of fun to watch.
Speaker 1: Kind of reminds me of the way you play, you know,
Speaker 1: really just kind of out there and join it and
Speaker 1: playing your hardest and really showing that grit and toughness
Speaker 1: It's it's fun to watch quarterbacks like that play the game.
Speaker 1: It's maybe a bit more of a rare breed these days, Jayson.
Speaker 1: We appreciate that that approach to the game. My next
Speaker 1: question for you was about Prime Time, but you kind
Speaker 1: of answered that well for me, so I'm gonna ask you.
Speaker 1: You know, Berman is known for giving out those nicknames,
Speaker 1: are dropping a little tidbits there in the game. Did
Speaker 1: you guys like ever pick up those nicknames and call
Speaker 1: each other that in the locker room? Or did were
Speaker 1: those something that stuck or was that just was that
Speaker 1: just a TV thing? I don't know very many of
Speaker 1: them stick in the last stuff stuck in the locker room.
Speaker 1: But you know, I think everyone was aware of it.
Speaker 1: You know, Prime Time was you know, everyone watched it. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, you finish up your games, especially if you
Speaker 1: had an afternoon game on Sunday and uh uh you
Speaker 1: know you're watching the Sunday night game and you know,
Speaker 1: you you click over to and Prime Times on and
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, it was just fun hearing him.
Speaker 1: He was just such a great announcer, and he made
Speaker 1: it fun to watch football, and uh, you know, as
Speaker 1: as a as a fan, and a player. Uh you know,
Speaker 1: it was you know, there were there were certain guys
Speaker 1: that definitely uh you know, took to those nicknames and
Speaker 1: and uh continue spreading it around. But uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I think there were other nicknames that were that were
Speaker 1: made in the locker room that that stuck a little
Speaker 1: bit longer. I remember that Chris Chambers Time has Come
Speaker 1: Today was my favorite ones he ever used and used
Speaker 1: every time he scored a touchdown to so plenty of
Speaker 1: those from you to Chris Chambers there. We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: to Chris next week about the Buffalo come back in
Speaker 1: two thousand five year after you were gone, but we'll
Speaker 1: we'll get that on the flashback podcast. One more question
Speaker 1: here regarding that play that kind of started this conversation.
Speaker 1: You got lit up out of bounds on that play
Speaker 1: and the flag comes in. As a quarterback, does that
Speaker 1: stuff like ignite you and get more out of you
Speaker 1: getting that unnecessary hit out of bounds or how does
Speaker 1: that affect like the way you approach the next player
Speaker 1: the next series. That's fine. You know, usually I am
Speaker 1: I am you know, pretty hyped up when when you know,
Speaker 1: when I take a good hit and you can just
Speaker 1: bounce right back up. I remember that hit pretty well
Speaker 1: because that one stung for a little bit. Uh. Uh
Speaker 1: you know, I remember the scramble we get out, you know,
Speaker 1: run get out of bounds and uh, you know, we
Speaker 1: were back in the old Foxboro stadium. This was before
Speaker 1: the news day. I think this was the last game
Speaker 1: in Foxboro. Uh, you know, so it was it was
Speaker 1: like going to an old you know, high school stadium.
Speaker 1: The locker rooms tiny, there's uh you know, no room
Speaker 1: in there, and the field out there. I mean it
Speaker 1: was you know, late December, you know, almost Christmas time.
Speaker 1: Field was frozen solid like ice, especially when you get
Speaker 1: over to the sideline area where you know you're not
Speaker 1: getting as much you know, play on it. Uh. And
Speaker 1: I remember that you know area of the field. I
Speaker 1: ran out of bounds and you know you could kind
Speaker 1: of feel your your cleats just you know, sliding on
Speaker 1: the ice on top of the grass there, and you know,
Speaker 1: got hit and landed right on my tailbone on the ice,
Speaker 1: and that was you know, that one definitely stung for
Speaker 1: a little while, but you know, got back up and
Speaker 1: and you know shook it off. You know, I think
Speaker 1: we missed the field goal. Uh, you know right after that, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, a short field goal. Uh. And then we
Speaker 1: were able to come back you know, later on and
Speaker 1: put ten points up. Uh, you know at the end
Speaker 1: of the game, I think the last five minutes to
Speaker 1: play to to come back and win. Yeah. So perfect
Speaker 1: segment there, because that was next on my notes. Here
Speaker 1: mar I misses from twenty eight yards and he's so
Speaker 1: reliable normally. And to go back to Chris Bermant on
Speaker 1: the highlight he mentioned this, He says, here we go
Speaker 1: in December in Miami again, and as a fan like
Speaker 1: that just brought back so many memories and feelings. I
Speaker 1: was curious, was the December swoon, if you want to
Speaker 1: call it that, something that you guys thought about. Did
Speaker 1: you like address it as a team, like, where did that?
Speaker 1: Where did you think that came from? And how much
Speaker 1: validity did you give the idea of the December collapse
Speaker 1: as it were? Well, you know, I mean that that
Speaker 1: was my first season with Miami, so I didn't know
Speaker 1: anything about you know, December collapse or anything like that.
Speaker 1: So for me, it was, you know, there was no
Speaker 1: validity to any of that. Um, you know, we we
Speaker 1: knew we had you know, a chance to win that
Speaker 1: game and and go into the playoffs, and um, you
Speaker 1: know it was. It was a great comeback victory in
Speaker 1: the end. And you know, I think, uh after that
Speaker 1: missfield goal, we actually made a couple you know, big plays,
Speaker 1: I know uh uh you know it was a huge
Speaker 1: play on on you know, our touchdown drive. Uh. O J.
Speaker 1: McDuffie made on a third and long Uh you know that,
Speaker 1: you know and O J that you know, he was
Speaker 1: you know, really real and with his with his toe injury. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it was kind of right at the end
Speaker 1: of his career. Uh. You know, he can only cut
Speaker 1: a certain way. Uh. He he couldn't cut off his
Speaker 1: right foot, So we made every play that we had
Speaker 1: him in the game on it was all cuts to
Speaker 1: to his right off his left foot, because if he
Speaker 1: tried cutting off his right foot, he couldn't get out
Speaker 1: of out of his break. Uh you know. So I
Speaker 1: remember we had him on a little short post, uh,
Speaker 1: and in that play I snuck it right in there
Speaker 1: and and he made an unbelievable play against a couple
Speaker 1: of defenders leaning leaning forward for the first down. It
Speaker 1: really sparked us. Uh. You know, you talk about the
Speaker 1: spark from from Derek Rodgers play. You know that was
Speaker 1: another spark. Uh. You know in the game that was
Speaker 1: you know early on the drive, you know, to go
Speaker 1: down and tie the game, and I think we we
Speaker 1: ran off uh you know, about six or seven completions
Speaker 1: uh after that play to drive all the way down
Speaker 1: and cap it off with with Lamar scoring the touchdown
Speaker 1: to tie the game up. And then you know, I
Speaker 1: think the defense made another great play. I think we
Speaker 1: got an interception uh after that, and and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I was able to another big play third third down
Speaker 1: to o J to kind of uh you know, get
Speaker 1: us in better field goal range and Alindo hit about
Speaker 1: a fifty yard field goal to win it with a
Speaker 1: few second left. Your recall is out and just outstanding. J.
Speaker 1: It's your spot on with all that, because so Juice
Speaker 1: catches that pass, gets Wall up fifteen yards first down
Speaker 1: on third and fifteen. Awesome play for both you guys there.
Speaker 1: Uh you you come back and you score a touchdown
Speaker 1: with Lamar Smith. You mentioned the big interception, there's Zach
Speaker 1: Thomas makes the pick on that play and then Marie
Speaker 1: connects with nine. Now we talked about how reliable Aldando
Speaker 1: Maria was for you guys for so many years. After
Speaker 1: missing twenty yards, I have to imagine he came back
Speaker 1: and you guys had full confidence in him right at
Speaker 1: you know, he was great all all season long, and
Speaker 1: uh you know, certainly you know, one of the better
Speaker 1: kickers in the league at that you know that time.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, so we had, you know, tremendous confidence
Speaker 1: in him, and you know it was just a matter
Speaker 1: of getting in within range. And you know it was
Speaker 1: obviously it was a cold night. Uh you know that
Speaker 1: the ball doesn't fly as far. You know, back then
Speaker 1: they had the different kicking balls, uh that that uh
Speaker 1: you know, came into the game and they were all
Speaker 1: brand new, hardest rock you know, footballs that you know,
Speaker 1: you couldn't work up like you know, like the quarterbacks do. Um.
Speaker 1: You know. So it was a little bit you know
Speaker 1: tougher to get a five sixty yr field goal, you know,
Speaker 1: back in those days, especially on a cold night. Uh
Speaker 1: you know, so we were able to get that last
Speaker 1: uh you know, last play on third down, just to
Speaker 1: get us in a little bit better field goal range.
Speaker 1: And already now that uh uh you know, that last
Speaker 1: kick and and then uh craziness and suit after that,
Speaker 1: let's get into the craziness, because so you get the
Speaker 1: field goal. I think it's I think it's nine seconds
Speaker 1: on the clock, and the Pats have to push the
Speaker 1: ball like thirty or forty yards to even get in
Speaker 1: field goal range. At that point, you get the strip sack,
Speaker 1: which to me still this day looks like a sack
Speaker 1: and a fumble. But hey, what do I know? You're
Speaker 1: in the locker room, your division champs. Then I want
Speaker 1: to hear from your perspective, like what happened next? Well,
Speaker 1: we you know, we were in the locker room celebrating
Speaker 1: and and uh, you know, I think Dave was was
Speaker 1: just about to you know, he was just kind of
Speaker 1: starting up his you know, congratulations speech and and as
Speaker 1: he's you know, getting into it, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Johnny Grier comes, you know, walking into the locker room
Speaker 1: and interrupts him, and you know, we see him just
Speaker 1: kind of go back, you know, towards the entryway with
Speaker 1: the referee, and I'm not You're not sure what's going on.
Speaker 1: And it comes back in and he's like, yeah, we
Speaker 1: got to go back out for another plate, you know.
Speaker 1: So you know, guys, were guys were crazy. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: were like, what the heck is going on? Uh um,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously it was defense had to, you know,
Speaker 1: how to get themselves ready. There were a few guys
Speaker 1: that came out, you know, just in their towels. I mean,
Speaker 1: there were guys in the shower already. You know, everything
Speaker 1: was off, equipment was off, it was starting to get
Speaker 1: packed up the equipment. Guys were packing up bags and
Speaker 1: and everything, and they had to just pull everything right
Speaker 1: back out. Uh. You know, certainly the defense had had
Speaker 1: a you know, get dressed for that one last play
Speaker 1: and uh you know, we were thankful that that didn't
Speaker 1: get extended after that because you know, we probably would
Speaker 1: have had to go back into the locker room and
Speaker 1: get a few more guys dressed if it did. But uh,
Speaker 1: you know, it was one of those things. I think
Speaker 1: they got a call from from the league office. Uh
Speaker 1: you know, and because you know our game had playoff implications,
Speaker 1: you know, they wanted to just make sure everything was
Speaker 1: by the book and and uh um you know when
Speaker 1: they made that call, uh you know, to to make
Speaker 1: it an incompletion instead of his hip sack like you said,
Speaker 1: you know, I forced them to to make us come
Speaker 1: out for for one more play and uh, you know
Speaker 1: last play was was was you know, I think they
Speaker 1: put Michael Bishop in. Uh you know quarterback Drew probably
Speaker 1: said screw And I took a shower also, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't want to come out and and
Speaker 1: and throw and throw a hail Mary out there again
Speaker 1: with you know, Bishop came out and he threw like
Speaker 1: a wounded duck about forty yards in the air. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of anti climactic. Uh, ending too to
Speaker 1: the game. We were a lot more excited at the
Speaker 1: end of the first regulation than than the second regulation.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's definitely you know, great, a great
Speaker 1: victory for us. Uh you know great, uh you know,
Speaker 1: finished to the season, uh, to the regular season and
Speaker 1: then you know, propelling us to go into the playoffs. Now,
Speaker 1: you mentioned how cold it was that day. They showed
Speaker 1: guys on the on the primetime highlight again coming out
Speaker 1: in their slippers, and I was like, I know, Foxboro
Speaker 1: into Nimber is not warm. But you mentioned it was
Speaker 1: even colder than usual, So kudos to those guys were
Speaker 1: sticking it out and coming out there and freezing their
Speaker 1: butts off. But I was curious. We talked about two
Speaker 1: division titles off the top of the podcast. Uh, does
Speaker 1: that count for three for you? Then, since you won one,
Speaker 1: had to go to the locker room, come back and
Speaker 1: get another W out of that. I'll go I'll go
Speaker 1: with that one. I like that pre argument. Good deal.
Speaker 1: One more tidbit for you here on the game Chris
Speaker 1: Berman again back to to the primetime highlight. He says
Speaker 1: that when you guys clinched the division on that final play,
Speaker 1: there was one fan in the stand and maybe a
Speaker 1: little bit of shadowing there, but they even identified the
Speaker 1: fan is Jeff McBride. So that was really cool. Just
Speaker 1: kind of tidbit they put in there that there was
Speaker 1: one guy that stuck it out and hung out there
Speaker 1: to to wash at the time of a five and
Speaker 1: ten Patriots team come out and try to score a
Speaker 1: seven year touched I guess on you guys, and that
Speaker 1: was probably a buddy at chrisses that you know, he
Speaker 1: just wanted to get his name after the broadcast. I'm
Speaker 1: surprising you get a nick name out of that, but
Speaker 1: either way, and so there was some activity after the
Speaker 1: game and Zach Thomas was talking to reporters and I
Speaker 1: saw this again on the Highlight and he mentioned that
Speaker 1: it could only happen this year, the Florida recount and
Speaker 1: now this recount, So pretty pretty funny parallels there. I've
Speaker 1: got one more question for you here, Jay. I'm always
Speaker 1: fascinated by the idea of how much fun it is
Speaker 1: on the team plane the team charter after you guys
Speaker 1: win a game. But I've got to imagine that after
Speaker 1: clinching a division title, that's even better, right. Oh, absolutely,
Speaker 1: it was a much better plane ride home on that one.
Speaker 1: Then we talked about earlier with the with the Jets
Speaker 1: game earlier in the season. Uh, you know, so, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, we had a great locker room, We had
Speaker 1: a great group of guys, you know, ultra competitive, a
Speaker 1: lot of fun to be around, and we had our
Speaker 1: fun so, uh you know, the plane ride home after
Speaker 1: after a good victory he had to clinch in the playoffs, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, it was definitely a good one. And uh
Speaker 1: you know, we we landed and we were right back
Speaker 1: to work the next day. I'm getting ready for Indie.
Speaker 1: No days off, that's for sure. He is j Fiedler,
Speaker 1: Dolphins quarterback from two thousand and two, thousand four. He
Speaker 1: also has an episode in the vault on the fish
Speaker 1: Tank podcast, so make sure you guys go back and
Speaker 1: check that out if you haven't done so yet, Jay,
Speaker 1: we really appreciate your time today, man, thank you. That
Speaker 1: was my pleasure. Was good talking with you. So there
Speaker 1: he goes Jay Feedler, always a good interview. Again, if
Speaker 1: you haven't heard his Fish Tank podcast, he actually mentioned
Speaker 1: at the end off the air that he does know
Speaker 1: Brian flora Is from going way back. He talks about
Speaker 1: that story on the fish Tank Podcast. To go check
Speaker 1: that out with step Levitt and O. J. McDuffie. Do
Speaker 1: apologize for some of the audio on that particular podcast.
Speaker 1: There got a little bit choppy at points, but I
Speaker 1: think it's mostly clear. So my apologies for some of
Speaker 1: the not terrific audio quality on this flashback Friday. But
Speaker 1: as for the podcast, that's gonna be my time. The
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