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Speaker 1: Liam Cohen, head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguise, says Travis

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Speaker 1: Hunter winning offensively and defensive Rookie of the Year, It's

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Speaker 1: possible Travis is listed as the start on offense and

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Speaker 1: the backup on defense. To have a chance of winning

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Speaker 1: both the wards, you need to be playing full time

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Speaker 1: offensive defense. So what do you think? Like it?

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Speaker 2: I like it?

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Speaker 1: I like it.

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Speaker 2: I don't defensively, I don't think you win it.

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Speaker 3: I think defensively, Rookie of the Year is probably gonna

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Speaker 3: be at Dual Carter.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be abdual Carter.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure what the workload would look like for

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Speaker 3: asking gent down there in Las Vegas, but I think

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Speaker 3: he would probably probably come in second. But watching that

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Speaker 3: Dual Carter and knowing what he can do defensively, especially

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Speaker 3: coming off that edge, he's gonna be a menace.

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Speaker 1: Is to be a man, And you think about it,

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Speaker 1: he got he got Lawrence, he got them and Ope,

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Speaker 1: so Piggy choose he got a he got a top

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Speaker 1: two three defensive tackle. Uh, he got cabon them. Old

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Speaker 1: that can you know, we know what he can do.

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Speaker 1: He can rush the pass when he's healthy. So it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be hard to slide and and and try to

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Speaker 1: like double him and take him away. Uh. You know, Normally,

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Speaker 1: what we've seen is that quarterbacks get a get a

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Speaker 1: get a premium on winning Rookie the Year because oh Joe,

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Speaker 1: they got the ball. Joe gonna be throwing. He throw

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Speaker 1: thirty touchdowns. It's hard to overcome back. Now you have

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Speaker 1: a situation like Chase. You know, Chase put fourteen hundred

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Speaker 1: yards up, so it was hard to deny deny him.

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Speaker 1: You look at who else, like you said, gently running backs,

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Speaker 1: you get three hundred carriage every four to half five

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Speaker 1: yards to carry. That's that's fourteen fifty hundred yard right there. No, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: and then guess what fourteen fifteen hundred yards with twelve

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Speaker 3: I like, I like, I like, I like, I like

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Speaker 3: the offensive rookie of the year. They gonna get him

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Speaker 3: that ball. They gonna get him that ball. Listen, Brian

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Speaker 3: Toman Jr. He's not gonna Brian Toman Jr.

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Speaker 2: Is going to.

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Speaker 3: Do exactly what he did last year plus something. But

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Speaker 3: because Tom jam is so great at what he does

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Speaker 3: so early, he's gonna be the one to get double.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna be the one to get double. And that's

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Speaker 3: when trav is gonna do what he does. He's gonna

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Speaker 3: be gonna make the plays that he makes. I'm curious

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Speaker 3: when they when they go Nickel. I wonder if trap

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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, for sure. All that the question is either

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Speaker 2: I think it'd be inside the start off.

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Speaker 1: You say so, Yeah, he tall. I think he's I

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Speaker 1: think he better outside.

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Speaker 3: Okay, see, I don't, I don't. I don't know the

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Speaker 3: depth chart for the for the Jaguars, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure they probably do have a Nickel, so they might.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure how it's gonna work.

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Speaker 1: Hey, oh, chore, you know them guys enough slot man,

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Speaker 1: them jokes stopping on them lab cons. Hey, they running

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Speaker 1: that ride on you? They running that? Will they running

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Speaker 1: that that will route?

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Speaker 2: It's different.

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Speaker 1: You get got like Keenan Allen.

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Speaker 2: Hey, did Keenan Allen just go back to he went

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Speaker 2: back to the charge. I like that. I like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like I like that move too, I do.

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Speaker 1: I like that move.

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Speaker 2: A familiar with the system, so all they got.

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Speaker 1: Familiar offense, familiar with at the quarterback. I like it.

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Speaker 1: I like that move. There's there, it is on your screen.

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Speaker 1: Do you see it? The depth chart?

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Speaker 2: Nice, it's not it's not up there.

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Speaker 1: It's not said tell you right now. Let me see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna be starting because right now, Jordan Lewis

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Speaker 1: You got Tyson Campbell, you got Jerry and Jones.

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Speaker 4: Oh, Jordan Lewis is there, okay, okay, yeah from the Cowboys. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: oh yeah, he definitely oh yeah, he definitely didn't know,

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Speaker 4: didn't no disrespect Darnelle Savage.

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Speaker 1: Savage, I think he's from Green Bay, right like Armstead,

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Speaker 1: Josh Hines, Allen, so ola coon.

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Speaker 2: They got it. They got a nice lott got a

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Speaker 1: What I am happy to be back to a nice

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna be. They're gonna be all right, Y's.

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Speaker 1: I see you. I missed you too, buddy. Man.

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Speaker 2: When you get special players like that, man, all you

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Speaker 3: Position man, and it opens up everything else you can do.

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Speaker 3: You can do more. You have certain type of players

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Speaker 1: That's why.

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Speaker 2: That's why I like what the Steelers have this year.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me on defense.

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Speaker 3: You know they tailed off towards the end of the

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Speaker 3: now where they can do more. It opens up the playbook.

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Speaker 3: Because you have a certain set of players that have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's gonna be interesting. Like I said, it's

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just I think that's just asking a

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Speaker 3: Listen, you said he could do it. We're gonna find out.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna find out real soon.

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Speaker 1: You gonna find out.

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Speaker 2: I have a question as does he play in the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you got to give him. I think

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Speaker 5: Okay, okay, get used to that, get it, get used

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Speaker 5: to that speed of the game because it's completely different.

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Speaker 2: It's completely different than practice. Titus, what up, Twin?

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Speaker 1: I guess you can twell. I guess you can tell.

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Speaker 1: I've been gone for twelve days.

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Speaker 3: You've been going that long. Hey, Titus, what up Twin?

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Speaker 3: Come on, come on down to Miami. I take it

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Speaker 1: Yuh, he said, I'm intact. He said, they'll they throw

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Speaker 1: us both out. He attacted me. He still got to

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Speaker 1: see he's still he's still.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the whole point I give.

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Speaker 3: It's a nice, nice, nice look nice poodles out there,

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Speaker 3: a little colleagues, you know.

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Speaker 1: People sue you man, Stop stop, that's nothing. Get me

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Speaker 1: all scratched up.

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Speaker 3: Hey, they about showing for every goddamn thing day Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 2: So it's all right. I'm worry about it. I ain't ship,

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Speaker 2: I ain't got.

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Speaker 1: It, I know. Uh, but it's gonna be very interesting

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Speaker 1: to see. He's starting wide receiver opposite of Brian Thomas Jr.

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Speaker 1: And then he's back up to uh, Jerry and Jones,

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Speaker 1: so hey paying him a boatload of money. He says

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Speaker 1: he can he can do it. Let's see what he can.

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Speaker 2: Do prove all the doubters wrong.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. The Colorado Buffalo Football have added Travis Hunting

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Speaker 1: Shaduor Sanders successes to their Legacy Hall Colorado Colorado Buffalo Football.

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Speaker 1: They tweeted two new legends one historic Hall, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Legacy Hall, Travis Hunt and Shador Sanders. Many had issues

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Speaker 1: with your doer in Travis's jersey being retired by coach

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Speaker 1: Prime so quickly, o Jo. Did Sanders and Hunters do

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Speaker 1: enough to be immortalized so quickly? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I would think so.

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Speaker 3: There have been some other other great great college players.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure if they brother Cordell Stewart. If I'm not,

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Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The running back.

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Speaker 1: Not well, Rajean Salam who's no longer with He won

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Speaker 1: the Heisman, he wonted. He their first he won the

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Speaker 1: Heisman they've had. Look, it's one more. I think it's

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court he's a Supreme Court justice Byron Wizzer White.

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Speaker 1: I think it was a Supreme Court justice. He was

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Speaker 1: the first great Colorado player.

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Speaker 2: Here another running back, running back? I think you were

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Speaker 1: Uh they had, they had Eric v Enemy Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Darien Hagen J J. J. Flanagan came out with me.

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Speaker 1: But they had some they had really good football players,

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Speaker 1: I mean defensive players. You know, Chad Brown, they had

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Speaker 1: I mean they've had some, they've had some, They've had

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Speaker 1: some some good players. They've had some good players. You know.

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Speaker 1: Michael Westbrook came Ray Ruth oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: Brooke game out of there. He and Cordelle was on

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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, it's it's I mean Prime Prime saw

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Speaker 2: They had two good.

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Speaker 3: Seasons, they turned that program around. I don't really see

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Speaker 2: And there should be nothing to be mad at.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, you always gonna have some people, because there

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Speaker 1: are some people that says, hey, there are some guys

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Speaker 1: I don't think the issue is the retirement of the Jerseys.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the time and how soon they so

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Speaker 1: like a lot of these say, if it happened twenty

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Speaker 1: and time was said, hold on, so what Rachelle you

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Speaker 1: do rash Salam number? But look what it took for

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Speaker 1: you to do it. You gave him flywers, but he

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Speaker 1: be wrong. Now I'm speaking as if I said Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's how I'm thinking. I'm thinking out loud, so you

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Speaker 1: You want to retire Travis, you want to try your door?

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Speaker 1: Can we make it late like twenty years? I'm different. Look,

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Speaker 1: let me tell you your versus South Carolina retire my

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Speaker 1: brother's number. He was still playing. So who who am I?

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Speaker 1: Savannah State? They didn't retire my number. They just didn't

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Speaker 1: wouldn't give it out. There are a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: and and I remember Mackie who was a trainer, the

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Speaker 1: head athletic trainer. And Bill David said, I don't think

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Speaker 1: you guys realized who actually wore that number. Yeah, coach,

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Speaker 1: you have a sharp one. Ward like MM three time

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Speaker 1: first team Black College All American, a Kodak All American,

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Speaker 1: three time Player Player of the Year, Offensive player, of

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Speaker 1: were state player of the year. I beat University of

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Speaker 1: that war, Yeah, Bill say, uh, and so Coch Davis

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm hoping Anthony Richardson doing everything possible. I hope

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Speaker 2: The job, that's that's the agent. The agent worked his magic.

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Speaker 1: Plus o Joe, I'm gonna give you an opportunity to

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Speaker 3: You know what, are you our future or are you not?

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Speaker 1: Well? Third year. Guess what they normally do with quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, Ady Mitchell Mitchell, that's what that's about. Millan Mitchell,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: So it's gonna it's gonna be it's gonna be incumbent

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Speaker 1: gonna look, he got drafted on potential with Joe. That's

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Speaker 2: Put it together.

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Speaker 1: You need precision, you need touch, you need understanding, you

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Speaker 1: I don't think you're not breaking We're not breaking news

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Speaker 1: He's got the Oh Joe, he's got the vastly improved

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Speaker 1: But mister Richardson's bro, you gotta perform. Yes, they're paying you. Hey,

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Speaker 2: That's a that's a good one. That's a good that's

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Speaker 1: I like that, and so that's that's that's Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 2: Not a good thing.

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Speaker 2: Tell everybody take it time, and I take a time.

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Speaker 1: Obviously I went through this. I experienced this, uh fourteen

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Speaker 1: You appreciate to the choir, Yeah, I sing up here

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Speaker 2: Look here, and that's a great feeling, boy.

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Speaker 1: Man, O Joe Man. I can't it's it's hard for

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Speaker 1: pretty much how he does all the speaking. And to

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00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 1: hear him say that everything he did was for an

438
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 1: audience of one. He didn't care what you wrote about him.

439
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 1: He didn't care what you said about him. None of

440
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: that mattered because the only person that he wanted to

441
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: impress was me. Everything that he did was because of me.

442
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: And to hear him says, you know, you know, you

443
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: can't leave without without without following. And to hear him

444
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: because it's almost like I'm like, it's replaying the very

445
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: the very words, and how I felt about him, how

446
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 1: I feel about him, and to hear him say that,

447
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: and to know the relationship that he and I have,

448
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 1: and I think people got an opportunity to see that

449
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: on full display, even on Friday night at the Gold

450
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: Jacket presentation. When you know, you walk the gauntlet, you

451
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: go through all the Hall of Famers, and we had

452
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: almost a record, so we had one hundred and eleven

453
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: members back now, mind you, of three hundred and eighty two,

454
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: my brother is the three hundred and eighty second member

455
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 1: of the Pro Football Hall of Fame. And if I'm

456
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: not mistaken. I think there are one hundred and eighty

457
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: one living members, so that means they're over. They're two hundred,

458
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 1: two hundred and one that are no longer with us.

459
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 1: Talking to Bobby Bell this morning getting on the plane,

460
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: he's one fifteen. There's only six with a lord number

461
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 1: than him that's still remaining. So and then, you know,

462
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 1: you know, seeing all that, but to be there and

463
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: to experience it, oh joy. My brother's really not an

464
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: emotional guy. Like I said, I think I've only a

465
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: handful of times. And like you said, when Papa died,

466
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: he didn't cry. When when Daddy died, he didn't cry.

467
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 1: When Granny passed, he didn't cry. But to be in

468
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: his presence and to know what this moment meant to him, right,

469
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 1: my brother don't let a whole lot of things bothering

470
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 1: and and and and, but to be around him, Joe,

471
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 1: because I know him better than anybody. I know him

472
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 1: better than anybody. I know what this moment meant to him.

473
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: I know what he felt. My supposed to say. Hell,

474
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna pick you up off the

475
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: floor at the gold Jacket ceremony, I said, yeah, and

476
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: throw his back out in the process. But Ocho man

477
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: to see to see how he was walking around and

478
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: to see the love and the kudos that he was

479
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 1: getting from those other Gold Jacket wears and the members

480
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 1: and at his party, and to have the bust and

481
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 1: to have his family. Because we don't get we don't

482
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: like I said, oh, Joe, we don't get together much.

483
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 1: And and I said, bro, we got to do a

484
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: better job of that. I say, look, when you really

485
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: cut it down to I said, us is me, you, Mama,

486
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: and Libby, my kids and you know Susan. And someone

487
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: said we got to do a better job. Bro, we

488
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: got to do a better job. I said, you know,

489
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: theoretically mom could not still outlive us along, but come on,

490
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: we can do a better job than what we've been doing.

491
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: But oo, that was that was the crown achievement. That

492
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: ain't nothing topping that. Ain't nothing topping that, old yo,

493
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: Because there there, there's there's If you play a sport,

494
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: to go into your sports heaven, and that's what the

495
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame is, be it baseball, basketball, soccer, tennis, swimming,

496
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: rock and roll hall of fame. If you go into

497
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 1: your professions heaven, that's what the Hall of Fame is

498
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: you when you get there? Okay, now that's it. That's it.

499
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: And man, I cried. I've been up all night. The

500
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: the love and the respect that was shown to my brother. Man.

501
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 5: Oh choke, yeah, I already listened you boy, I already know.

502
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: I already Jordan up poasting so much stuff. I'm like

503
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: with damn, I'm looking at my feet and I'm like,

504
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: dam did you go to sleep in the middle of

505
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: the because every time collab, collad post post posed, like.

506
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 3: With damn, thinking up. Listen, somebody sent me something. They

507
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 3: didn't have your information, you said, photo gallery.

508
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 2: I sent you.

509
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: Uh you should sent me something.

510
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 2: Man, No, this was a few days ago, remember.

511
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

512
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 3: Somebody didn't have Yeah, they ain't have your information.

513
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: Shoot, they sent me the whole photo gallery.

514
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: Oh man, it's it's that moment, bro, and you know,

515
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: riding in the parade and everybody because it was the packers.

516
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: The packers have really well and to see some of

517
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: his teammates because I don't know if you noticed O

518
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: Joe when he sat down with me. I didn't know

519
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: this at the time. I didn't I didn't know he

520
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: never shared this then. So what he said on the

521
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: pod was the first time that when he had his

522
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: next surgery, no one called him. Not a teammate, not

523
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: a coach, not a front office. We call hell getting

524
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: him to accept them doing this party, I said, because

525
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: what I told him, I said, now you have to

526
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: understand the people that's.

527
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 2: In place now were in place.

528
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: Then, I said, Now, I'm not saying that your anger

529
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: isn't warranted. I said, but in this situation, it's misplaced.

530
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: The people that you should be upset with, they.

531
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 2: Weren't there long gone.

532
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: They were there. And I didn't know, like I said, Oo,

533
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: I didn't that I did. Oh Joe the man, there's

534
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: a chance that he could have been paralyzed, Yes, sir,

535
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: from neck down. He could have been a quadriplet. Now,

536
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: mind you, his last season he still has tied for

537
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: the third most receiving touchdowns in a single season, and

538
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: he never played another season. So he goes under the

539
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: knife and not no, not just imagine, oh Joe, you

540
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: go through a surgery that you could be paralyzed or worse.

541
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: The owner, a coach, a teammate, not even TJ not Carson,

542
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: not the general manager, not your head coach, not even you, Jack.

543
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: No one calls you and checks on you.

544
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 6: Shit boy, Listen, that is that that tells you all

545
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 6: you need to all you need to know, though you

546
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 6: hear me, So think about the people you just named,

547
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 6: Think about the people you just name.

548
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 3: Nothing is even wrong with me and everybody you just name,

549
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 3: I've talked to at least three three times a month.

550
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 3: I am of no value to Marvin Lewis r R.

551
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 3: I'm of no value to Hugh Jackson anymore. Hell, TJ,

552
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 3: me and TJ we in the group chat with about

553
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 3: twenty bangals. So that's a constant, a constant, uh you.

554
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: Know, form of communication. But that that would hurt so bad.

555
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: It did bothered the.

556
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 3: People that I went to war within, the people that

557
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 3: I'm playing for not giving me a call with the

558
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 3: extent of my injury, with a chance I could be

559
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 3: paralyzed and I can't play ball the more. And nobody

560
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 3: reached out, not a flower, not a motherfucking card.

561
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 2: My damn, I'm sorry.

562
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: So I think that that that bothered him the most. Yeah,

563
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: and uh, he still I was like, bro, you know,

564
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: and and he's finally like, like letting it go because

565
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: my brother, you know he you know, he he's he

566
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: don't hit you over the head with it. But Carre's

567
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: this Bible. He goes to church, he reads the scripture.

568
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: So he's and so he's learned, Oh Joe, that I've

569
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: got to let this go. He says, I can't be

570
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: what I'm proclaiming to be if I still have this

571
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: in my heart. And so, but it was it was

572
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: tough for him. I'm number I remember to sixty seven.

573
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: He's remember three eighty two. I think they said, over

574
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: thirty thousand men have played this game, coached this game,

575
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: on the team, been a general manager. Thirty thousand, three

576
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty two men have a gold jacket. They said,

577
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: over three hundred, three hundred million men have played the

578
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: game of football. They just say again on Joe, three

579
00:32:55,120 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: hundred million. So my mom my, Mom's like, I got

580
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: two boys talking about I probably need to scan. I

581
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: might have another son out there somewhere. I say, you don't,

582
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: you don't. You ain't got another son, You ain't got

583
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: another daughter. I promise you, this is all. This is

584
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: all you got is out. You got what you got

585
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: daddy A you told daddy shop was closed after me.

586
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,479
Speaker 1: You say, hey, when they ask you, they say, Papa

587
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: asked her. Say, well, Alice, what you want daddy. I

588
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: don't give a damage. It's a lizard. I'm done. So

589
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: you got what you got, Mama. That's it. But she

590
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: was happy with my farm. My coach, Coach Hall, like

591
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: I said, you know, he was there, coached all my uncles.

592
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: My uncle started started started graduating high school in nineteen

593
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: sixty six. Nineteen sixty six, I graduated eighty six. He

594
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: talked for fifty years and having him there, but oh, Joe,

595
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this, I know you

596
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: couldn't pick it up. But at the gold jacket ceremony,

597
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: what they did they started doing. I don't know when

598
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,959
Speaker 1: they started it. This is my first time back since

599
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. Is that obviously you walk the gauntlet, you know,

600
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: so you have four guys to walk this way, two

601
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: guys walk that way, and you got all the Hall

602
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: of Fames and they give it a congratulations, welcome to

603
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: the paturnity, welcome to the brotherhood. Then you get up

604
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: on stage and then I was really the only presenter

605
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 1: that was actually there, Dean Spanos who presented No his dad.

606
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: His dad was yeah, his dad was there. I think

607
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: his dad was there. Jared Allen's dad was there. Put

608
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: the code on him, Marcus put the code on Eric Allen,

609
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: and then Lt. Ladanie and Thomas and put it on

610
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: Gates Antonio Gates. But anyway, and so you know, they

611
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: come up, they bring your family out, they bring let

612
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: your kid, your wife come up, your kids come up,

613
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: your mom block X, Y and Z so Jared Allen. Yeah, family,

614
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: Jared Allen families comes up there and everybody. He's excited,

615
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: you know, his wife is excited. The girls come running

616
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: to him. I think one of the one of his

617
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 1: daughters had on cowboy boots, so the cowboy. But anyway,

618
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: you know we got a signature sie that you move,

619
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: oh Joe, you know what they do. He calf rope.

620
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: He go down on one knee. Ghet the tied up

621
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: and who wa uh he go down on one knee,

622
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: calf rope that thing. Yeah, they his pants so where

623
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: I am I can see. I think he ripped his

624
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: pants from the back of the knee all the way

625
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: up to the top of his belt.

626
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:40,479
Speaker 2: Real.

627
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, So now they got to rush over again. They

628
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: got to rush over because the hotel is really close

629
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: by where they're staying. They got to rush over, get

630
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: a police he's court, and get him a pair of pants,

631
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: because you.

632
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: Know, that's funny, that's funny. Uh.

633
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: There there's a clip out there and I know we

634
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: didn't a chance to vet it and uh we don't

635
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: know who it belongs to, but there's a clip out there,

636
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: and you can see him. He grabbed the back and

637
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: he grabs. At first I thought he had tweets. I said, damn,

638
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: you tweet your hamstring. You don't do no, you know.

639
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: But then as he started to move, I was like, nah, bro,

640
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: you ripped, you ripped him, and he really did. But

641
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: it was great this, Like I said, I know, Gates

642
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: Gainst my guy like a little brother to me. And

643
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: to see played against Eric Allen. I played against e

644
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: A and and in Philly and when he was at

645
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: the Raiders because he was chasing me in the m

646
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: zone and uh, who else Jared Allen? Jared retired. He

647
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: came to Campas City the year I retired, and uh Gates,

648
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: that was it? Now? Who else? Oh? Yeah, obviously played

649
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: against my brother twice, but oh oh, Joey, it was.

650
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: It was unbelievable they're doing so much. They're they're building

651
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: it up now, they're they're trying to do more for

652
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: the players that are in the Hall of Fame. But

653
00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: it's a it's an unbelievable it's an unbelievable experience. And

654
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,479
Speaker 1: uh who.

655
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 2: That's dope.

656
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: That's last. I don't know what I did to deserve

657
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: all this, what you've done for my family, but I

658
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: appreciate the biggest news of the day, Oh show, the

659
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 1: Browns have released their depth card. Doe Flacco, I told

660
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: you qub one, Kenny Pickett two, Dylan Gabriel three, Shador

661
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: Sanders five excuse me four, But they did bring in

662
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: because two of the four quarterbacks are injured hamstring, Kenny

663
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: Pickett and Dylan Gabriel. And a few hours ago, this

664
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: is what Adam Shefter tweeted. The Browns are signing Tyler

665
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: Snoop Huntley, who spent part of last season with Cleveland.

666
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: With Kenny Pickett, Dylan, Dylan Gabriel nursing hamstring injuries, and

667
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: Shador Sanders having her sore shoulder, the Browns need another

668
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: arm enter Huntley, Yes, talk to me.

669
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 2: I don't know what they're doing. We don't know what

670
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 2: they've done the last thirty five.

671
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: Do they know? Are we sure they know what they're doing?

672
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 3: Have they known what they're doing since that franchise has

673
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 3: been established?

674
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 2: Have they figured it out yet?

675
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 3: Because the last good quarterback, no disrespect to the quarterbacks

676
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 3: that have played for the Cleveland Brown, the last one

677
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 3: that has been of decency has been Bernie Coozar.

678
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken.

679
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, There you go.

680
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 2: That's no disrespect to any of the quarterbacks that have

681
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 2: played there. But it is what it is. We talk

682
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 2: about consistency.

683
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 3: Have we had one for a decade that we've been

684
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 3: able to leave on build around?

685
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: You had a couple of years, you got a couple

686
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: of years of Baker, But outside of that, no.

687
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 2: No disrespect. Come on, man, Come on man.

688
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: So how do we how do we have that's the

689
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: problem that you have.

690
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 3: The trust organization when it comes to choosing quarterbacks at

691
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 3: the position, when they haven't figured it out all these years,

692
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, now they got all the motherfucker

693
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 3: excuse me, now they got all the sense they're supposed

694
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 3: to have, all the sense. Now it's the depth chart

695
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 3: to me. I'm I'm gonna let you go. The depth

696
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 3: chart to me, doesn't mean anything. We know Jack Joe

697
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 3: Flackham would do when the lights come on. Kenny Pikett

698
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 3: had this opportunity when he would drafted to the Steelers.

699
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: So we've seen the simple side that already. I mean

700
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 2: no disrespect to him. He's not the answer.

701
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel has success at the organ when the lights

702
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 3: come on. But it's a different ball game in the

703
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 3: NFL with the grown men that got mouths to feed.

704
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 3: Everyone should get an ample chance to win their starting position.

705
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 3: We already know who quarterback one is gonna be. We

706
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 3: know who that gonna be. The depth chart doesn't mean anything.

707
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 3: What they trying to do is they trying to break

708
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 3: young bull. They're trying to break him. Oh that's all

709
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 3: it is. From the draft process. They're getting drafted in

710
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 3: the fifth round to the owner coming out and saying

711
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 3: what he said last week to now, man, come on

712
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 3: with that bull, yard Man.

713
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: I don't see how I can't pick it still remains

714
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: number two. He hadn't practiced since the twenty sixth of July,

715
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, So he's been dealing with a

716
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: hamstring injury. But when you go out and sign somebody

717
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: in free agency. I mean, I guess that does tell

718
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: you they do think highly of him, because they signed him,

719
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: Dalan Gabriel. He's get dealing with a hamstring. I guess

720
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: the worst thing that happened is that we could have

721
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: found out because had both of those guys been injured,

722
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: we head into the first preseason game and only Flacco

723
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: and Shador is healthy. Now it remains to see to

724
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 1: be seen how much Joe Flacco is going to play.

725
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: If he plays, I'm thinking maybe a series. Oh Shoe,

726
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: that's top. Let's be generous and say a series. Now

727
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: that was gonna be Shaudur opportunity to basically take us home.

728
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: We saw Trey Lance. Trey Lance started the game and

729
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: played what deep into the fourth quarter. Hell, he might

730
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: have finished the game. With that being said, the worst

731
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: thing that could possibly happen happened for the Browns is

732
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: that the two quarterbacks that your probably is counting on,

733
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: they both got hurt, definitely, and they got hurt early.

734
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: Now we'll see how soon it remains to be seen.

735
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: I think I said last night, they played Thursday, they

736
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: play Thursday, Friday?

737
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 2: Is it friday?

738
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: Okay? They played Friday. They played Friday against I'm excited.

739
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: Is your door gonna play?

740
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 2: Yes, he doesn't have a choice.

741
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: This is but if it showed it? But but but

742
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: what if he had I mean, I mean clearly they

743
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: don't feel that confident because they thought she was gonna

744
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 1: be able to go. Would they have brought a fifth quarterback?

745
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had to bring it.

746
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 3: They had to bring somebody else in because Kenny Picktt

747
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 3: is probably not gonna play, especially with the Hampson injury.

748
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: The game is I don't think either one. I don't

749
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: think two and three.

750
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 3: So definitely definitely gonna play it. Listen, listen the iron.

751
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 3: This guy doesn't lie in the nissa do or to

752
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 3: put what he can on tape.

753
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: They needed.

754
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 2: What are we going to get? What did we draft

755
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 2: all of put in?

756
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 3: Obviously going against offensive defense and practice that don't mean nothing.

757
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 1: Well you don't expect to get, Oh Joe, how long

758
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: you expect the five hundred dollars called a lass? Think

759
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: about where they drafted him. Now, now clearly they ain't

760
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: put a whole lot of resources behind it. No, so

761
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 1: they're not. Let's let's let you know what, O Joe,

762
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: you know what we do your nightcap.

763
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 2: We talk to me now.

764
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: Chat. You know, when you go by what we used

765
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: to call what I was growing up, we call it

766
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: second hand. When you go buy something secondhand and you

767
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 1: spend five hundred dollars or you spend one thousand dollars

768
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: and as is no warranty, you're not expecting me. Okay,

769
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: hopefully they get me from point A to point B.

770
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 1: They drafted Shador in the fifth round. They're not expecting

771
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: much of Shador. They didn't because if they thought that

772
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: much of him, they had drafted him higher. If they

773
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: thought that much of him, they would have given him

774
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: a fair opportunity. But that's not what they've done. And

775
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: I'm not Look, that's their organization. They run it how

776
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 1: they see fit. But I don't know in people in Cleveland,

777
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: I don't know how you would still have trust in

778
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: this organization considering how many quarterbacks in every quarterback they say, oh,

779
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: he's franchised, he's franchised. You said that with Derek Anderson,

780
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: and you said that after before him, and you said

781
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: that after him Baker got injured and you moved on

782
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: from him. Now Baker didn't have the weapons that he

783
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: has in Tampa. I don't think Baker's like, oh my god,

784
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna wish I could have stayed in Cleveland.

785
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: The weather's a lot lighter than Tampa, and there's no

786
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: state income tax, and he had a great support system

787
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: around him. With all that being said, I don't think.

788
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: I don't think it's muschy like boy. Maybe they bet

789
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: against him. Who listen, it happens all the time. I

790
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: gonna want you if if you do it, how does

791
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: that make me look if your doer looks well?

792
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 2: Oh yo, henna excuse me.

793
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 3: The adversity and the obstacles that young bulls had to

794
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 3: endure in general, he's been he's been pre been prepped

795
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 3: for this. He's been prepped for this. Oh there against

796
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 3: me since he got drafted. When he dropped in the

797
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 3: fifth round, he already knew what time it was. When

798
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 3: your opportunity gets there, When you get your opportunity, you

799
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 3: have no choice.

800
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 2: But the shine, you have no choice.

801
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 3: They're betting against him not to do well.

802
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: Right, But if you want me to win the race,

803
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: oh Joe, you got to put me on a fair

804
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 1: bread like everybody else. You can't give me a clients

805
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: down and say go win this race. Is he at

806
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,959
Speaker 1: let me ask you this, when he is in the game,

807
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: is he gonna get the first team offensive lineup? Because

808
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: that's what when they want to get when they want

809
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: to give you a serious look, Ojoe, you and I

810
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: both played this game for a long period of time.

811
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: When they want to give god, when they want to

812
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 1: give a receiver a serious look, that let him run

813
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: with the ones. They don't contentously see what he can

814
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: do with the twos and threes. They give him a

815
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: fair opportunity with the ones. The number one quarterback, the

816
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: number one offensive right line, and the other one receivers

817
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: on the opposite side of him. Quarterbacks, when they are

818
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: running backs, when they really want to see what you

819
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: can do, they let you run with the one the

820
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: number one O line, And normally when they pull the

821
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 1: offensive line out, guess who else coming out? Quarterback? Because

822
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: the quarterback, the starting quarterback is not gonna be in

823
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: there with the twos and threes. The starting running back

824
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 1: is not gonna be in there with the twos and threes.

825
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be very interesting to see. It is

826
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 1: the first preseason game, and given the way the preseason

827
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: is done now, starters don't normally play. They don't normally play,

828
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: and they don't play much. So Shador is gonna have

829
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: to make Shaudor is gonna have to make wine with

830
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: the water that he the whale water that he's been giving. Right,

831
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: he's not been given purified water, he's not been given

832
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: bottle water. So he's gonna have to make do it.

833
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 3: What he's has a good thing though, the cars that

834
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 3: he's dealt on Friday night, when he ends that game,

835
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 3: regardless of what's surrounding him, he's going to make something

836
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 3: happen when he does make something happen, when he's able

837
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 3: to make something out of nothing. And this is no

838
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 3: disrespect to the twos and the threes and the fours

839
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 3: that are trying to make that team.

840
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: Everybody out there buying for a job.

841
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:26,919
Speaker 1: For sure, but they're only about five jobs up the ramp.

842
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: They know, they know it. They know within forty guys,

843
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: forty one guys, who's gonna build on that rock.

844
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 3: Oh listen, they don't know. They don't know yet because

845
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 3: what they're planning on, what they're trying to do, whatever

846
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 3: it may be, when he gets his opportunity, all they

847
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 3: got to do is not to go down. I don't

848
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 3: care what you put around me. I'm finn shure you.

849
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 3: I'm finna get the job done. So imagine if I can,

850
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 3: If I can get out there and cut up on

851
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 3: Friday with threes and four then tools at my helm.

852
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 3: What you think gonna happen when I got the ones?

853
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 3: Which is thing gonna happen when they got when they

854
00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 3: got juwey huh in Djoku and the rest of boys

855
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 3: at my disposal as my weaponry. If I can do

856
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 3: this with my threes and fours and twos out here

857
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 3: in a preseason game, all he's done all this life

858
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 3: is when huh, that's all he's done. So now you

859
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 3: put me in this in this situation, a little obstacle adversity.

860
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 2: All right, I got this. I've been here before, I

861
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 2: got this.

862
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with Jo Joe. I mean he's never

863
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: had a situation like this. You don't know what you

864
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: can overcome until your face with it.

865
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 2: Got talking man with my pen. Oh that's a good one.

866
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 2: Let me write that because strength is fast. Now I

867
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: gotta write that down' gonna put that in.

868
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: My note because though your hair is the thing, See,

869
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: strength is not what you possess. Strength is overcoming something

870
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 1: that you didn't think you could see. A lot of

871
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: people think it is where I can lift this or

872
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: I can do that. Is not strength. Strength is overcoming

873
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: something you didn't think you could. He's never been in

874
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: this situation before. He's been the best, and now he's

875
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: gonna have to that strength that his father has instilled him.

876
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: His father is very biblical. His father is very into

877
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: the church, is into the word. All those words that

878
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 1: his father has been preaching to him for a lifetime.

879
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: It will be put to the test. Say like when

880
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 1: the devil told you, yes, of course God, he's gonna

881
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: serve you. You give him everything. Look at the family,

882
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: look at the livestock that you have, Look at what

883
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: you blessed him with. Why would he not serve you?

884
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: Remove the hedge and your curse. His very biker and

885
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: should door has had abundance of everything. He had a

886
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: dad that had resources to get him that opportunity to

887
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: go learn and study under Tom Brady, to get him

888
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: throwing coaches, and to put him in the best situations.

889
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: Now you can recall, you can call on that, to

890
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: recall what Tom said this, and this guy said that,

891
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: and do this, do that. But at the end of

892
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 1: the day, when you fall on your knees now, because see,

893
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: that's what faith is. It's believing even though you can't

894
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 1: see it. You see, Man says, show me and I'll

895
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: trust you. God says, trust me and I'll show you.

896
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: You see the difference.

897
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 2: Between yah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.

898
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 1: Your door is gonna have to rely on his faith

899
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: because at this time that's all he has. And I'm

900
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: not so sure that he's not the only one that

901
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: has it because I'm not so sure the people in

902
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 1: that building have faith in him.

903
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 3: You can't listen the people in the building. You ain't

904
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,919
Speaker 3: got to worry about that. You don't have to worry

905
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 3: about that. At the end of the day. If they

906
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 3: don't want you, if they don't want you, let me,

907
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 3: let me put on film, let me. Yes, you got

908
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:21,919
Speaker 3: what you got to do at the end of the day,

909
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 3: regards to what they do, regards to wearing him on

910
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 3: the depth chart, I have a job to do and

911
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 3: I'm going to do it to the best of my ability.

912
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,439
Speaker 3: Regards to what you put out there on the field

913
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 3: with me on Friday.

914
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, it's still football.

915
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: We've been all been playing football since Kreama.

916
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 2: Now you just took the word right out of my mouth.

917
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: I've been in your door. See, I wish your doing

918
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: Sander's before you do sand It's just that a different position.

919
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: I know what it's like. I went to a team

920
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: that just went to the Super Bowl. Although they got drubbed,

921
00:50:53,880 --> 00:51:00,280
Speaker 1: they brought every receiver back, Mark Jackson, Vance Johnson taking

922
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: to tell Michael Young, they're only keeping five receivers and

923
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 1: far the guys that went to the Super Bowl or back.

924
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 2: Back, you're gonna be out.

925
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: So we got they bring in four or five other receivers.

926
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: Shannon Sharm's the seventh and the seventh rounder. I know that.

927
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: But I'm a I'm supposed to be a camp body.

928
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 1: But what you expect out of me and what I

929
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: expect out of me are two different things. I don't

930
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: let you set my gym. I don't let you set

931
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 1: my expectation. I see it. That's and that's how your

932
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: door has to think. I know what y'all, I know

933
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: what you're playing. I know. Hey, in life, when when

934
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: Ray told Claud he said, hey, I know you're thanking something.

935
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: You got something up your sleeve. I know you got

936
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: something brew it. I ain't got nothing, Race, I got

937
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: an ass cutting for your brewing. Your door just needs

938
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: to be should do it. He doesn't have to be

939
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: any he doesn't have to be anything else other than that.

940
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: And and that's good enough. His best is good enough.

941
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: He doesn't have to be extraordinary. This is now the NFL.

942
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: It is the league. You remember that movie, The League

943
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: of Extraordinary Gentlemen. There are a lot of extraordinary gentlemen

944
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:24,959
Speaker 1: in my league, a lot of them. But that ain't

945
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: what he has to be down.

946
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 5: And that's that's no disrespected him. Let's just let's be realistic.

947
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,720
Speaker 1: They take it how they want to. I'm just saying,

948
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: Joe flaccover the year eighteen and he's way past his prime.

949
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett A, we'll see. He's hurt. Can't make the

950
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: club in the tub. Dylan Gabriel, he's hurt.

951
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: I'm telling you what.

952
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 3: Say one thing about it, one thing. One thing about

953
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 3: the football gods.

954
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 2: Year me.

955
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 3: One thing about the football gods when they know, when

956
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,879
Speaker 3: they know, especially, it's funny business going on the way

957
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 3: they moving.

958
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 2: Cream Ord's rass at the top.

959
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: That's it.

960
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 2: I don't care what you put around me. I'm gonna

961
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 2: make it work.

962
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make it to do to listen when you go,

963
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 3: when you go to the casino, and they did them

964
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 3: goddamn cards.

965
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 2: You can't control what you deal.

966
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 3: Had got to play the hand you depth. You got

967
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 3: to play it to the best of your ability.

968
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 2: That's it. That's all they got to do. Go out

969
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 2: there with just straight, straight confidence. This is my team.

970
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 2: You got to walk it. You got to play like it.

971
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 2: You got to walk in that stadium like you own it.

972
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 2: You got the walk. You got to Oh, I see

973
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 2: the game, y'all playing?

974
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: Okay?

975
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 2: Bet let me show you.

976
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's not easy because I don't want people

977
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: to think that, oh he you never Yes, yes, there were,

978
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: there were. There were nice that I would go to bed,

979
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: and I'm asking myself, am I good enough? Man? I

980
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: only got three plays and I ain't catch your pants?

981
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: So if I'm a receiver, how am I getting judged? Yeah?

982
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 1: By everything else to do as a quarterback. He don't

983
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: get no reps. How's he getting judged? Okay? I caught

984
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: one point. I called it. I called it, and it's like, man,

985
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: is it? Man? I had this great careers at Glenville.

986
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: I had a great career Savannah State, and now I'm here.

987
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 1: In my mind, I'm thinking, what person doesn't think that

988
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: he's better than some of the people that he's going again,

989
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: it wasn't like I was. I wasn't going against him,

990
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame receiver. It wasn't Jerry I wasn't.

991
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: It wasn't Jared Rice and my brother Chris Carter and

992
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: all those guys out there. That was how I was

993
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: gonna have to try to win time from. But I look,

994
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: it gave me confidence that John Elway told me I

995
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: could play in this league. He thought I had the

996
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: ability to play. It helped me a lot with Mark

997
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: Jackson would tell would legitimately tell me what I needed

998
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:03,439
Speaker 1: to do. But yeah, there was I'm fighting for a job.

999
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: If we fighting for a job and a guy told

1000
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: me the wrong route, I didn't know it was the

1001
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: wrong route. I went in there and read it, Dan

1002
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: read chewting my ass for a speed though, Hey, ask me,

1003
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: what the hell I'm running the route? What hey, oh,

1004
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:23,439
Speaker 1: Joe I swollen. I just knew I read it right, right, Hey,

1005
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: nice MoU a nice slap arm up rip that tried

1006
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: to yo, I hit it right quick, because you know

1007
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 1: back then and you spend too much time dancing a

1008
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: lot of screamings, they're gonna come up through your face masks.

1009
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: So ay playing chop, I'm over. He blowed it with

1010
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: something like, damn, I ain't even halfway through my route.

1011
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: Don't yoe what he bloody rest fump. Let me get

1012
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: this rock, we do something on it, shouting shark, what

1013
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 1: the hell are you doing? You know me? Oh smart?

1014
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: I'm thinking myself, what the hell it looks like? I

1015
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: do it? Running down route? What you got on such

1016
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: a second? I think I thought I got What can

1017
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: I say? Somebody told me the wrong route. You're supposed

1018
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: to know it the hell you're supposed to do anyway?

1019
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 2: That's he that's a lark, that's a crow.

1020
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get a job, and in fact, if

1021
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: I can remove you out of the way to make

1022
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: my opportunity to get this job easier, guess what I'm

1023
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: going to do. I am going to remove you called

1024
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: removing the competition. We know it. We hear all about

1025
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: the drug. What they try to do, take over somebody's territory.

1026
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: You try to expand the territory doesn't matter how I

1027
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 1: just need to expand. I need to make sure. So

1028
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: he's trying to remove me, I run the wrong rockey,

1029
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: Hey let me, Hey, never ask again. But you know

1030
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 1: what and Mayor Porter used to say, God don't like ugly,

1031
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 1: sometimes you don't like pretty. Guess who will the first

1032
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: who to get cut?

1033
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,439
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, but he told you the wrong rope?

1034
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.

1035
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, one thing about it. Boy. You can't deny greatness,

1036
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 2: but you can't not greatness.

1037
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: You know, remember what it was meant for me to

1038
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: go there?

1039
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 3: Remember when we got when we got when when shdor

1040
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 3: got drafted. I said, it's a blessing in disguise because

1041
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 3: they've they've always been they've always had an issue at

1042
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 3: finding the answer at that position now.

1043
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 2: Which they try to play with him. I said, was

1044
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 2: that watch they try to play.

1045
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 3: With him and he ends up being the answer that

1046
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 3: they didn't even know they had.

1047
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 2: Watch. I guarantee you. And if I'm wrong, I put

1048
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 2: my foot in my mouth.

1049
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: If I'm what I think, if he might be the answer,

1050
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: oh Joe, And that was not even a test that

1051
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: they gave it did That's the problem that they're up against.

1052
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, man, we bring that back one more time.

1053
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: That's it. You said he's to be the answer. Yes

1054
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: he might. He could well be the answer. And that's

1055
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: not the test that they gave it.

1056
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,479
Speaker 2: Hey, what you preaching the night back? God?

1057
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: What's for you? What's what's for you? What's for you?

1058
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: It's for you? Can nobody stop it? If it's meant

1059
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: to be. It's meant to be. And God is God

1060
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: in good and in bad. And we just got it.

1061
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: We just we understand that. We accept that. But uh, yeah,

1062
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: who else? He has a lot going on. Don't think

1063
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: his mind is not Hey, it's pops. And you know

1064
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: how close he is with his dad. His dad dealing

1065
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: with what he's dealing with. But his dad say, hey,

1066
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: you having that, I got this. You're having that up

1067
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: there in Cleveland. You let me take care of this

1068
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: down here in Boulder.

1069
00:58:51,320 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 2: Hm hm, Hey, make the Browns gready in.

1070
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: M B g A.

1071
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, n b n b g A. Make the

1072
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 2: Browns great again,