1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Wednesday, March eighteenth, day forty 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: five in the search for Nancy Guthrie. But these days 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: some of the major developments and major headlines about the 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: case are about the sheriff. And with that, welcome to 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: this episode of Amy and TJ. Robes. This sheriff has 6 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: been under a spotlight for a while, and a lot 7 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: of it had to do with his handling up the 8 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: Guthrie case. But now a lot of things are coming 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: up don't have anything to do with the Guthrie case. 10 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: Uh yes, so yes. 11 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 3: Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos. You've heard his name, you've 12 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 3: seen his face. He used to hold those press conferences 13 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 3: and every now and then he'll speak to reporters about 14 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 3: where they are in the investigation. Well, now his job 15 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 3: is in peril. There is a recall going on right now. 16 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 3: The Pima County Board of Supervisors is meeting next Tuesday 17 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 3: to discuss the way forward. Now that there is a 18 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 3: growing outcry from folks. There is a would be congressman, 19 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 3: someone running for Congress, who is maybe leading the charge, 20 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 3: but they want him out. They say that the handling 21 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 3: of the Guthrie case was the straw that broke the 22 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 3: camel's back. 23 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: So there was other stuff their argument, and we'll get 24 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: into what these things are. But am I hearing you right? 25 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: That the Guthrie thing for them was just the latest, 26 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: if you will, he was already on thin I correct. 27 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 3: So they are claiming that he basically hasn't been honest 28 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 3: about his work history, hasn't been honest about his disciplinary 29 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: record as a police officer, and so they've gone back 30 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 3: through and apparently this past December under oath, they are 31 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 3: claiming that he misrepresented himself and with that, in addition 32 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 3: to how the Nancy Guthrie kidnapping case has been handled 33 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 3: so far, they want all of that considered and are 34 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 3: asking the Board of Supervisors to consider either forcing a resignation. 35 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 3: And I don't know what the procedure would be going 36 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 3: forward with the point is they want him out of 37 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 3: a job, all right. 38 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: Let me take one at a time. Here the two 39 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: issues in which they say he's been dishonest. One of 40 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: them has to do specifically with something essentially that was 41 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: on his resume, and then another having to do with 42 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: his comment under oath, having to do with his disciplinary 43 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: action against him. Is that great? 44 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 2: Correct? 45 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: Two things. Yes, Okay, so let's go with the disciplinary thing. First, 46 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: he was essentially saying no, and this was under oath. 47 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 3: Under oath he was being a subpoena and I'm not 48 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 3: sure what that was in specific connection with, but he 49 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 3: basically said during a December deposition, he was asked if 50 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 3: he had ever been suspended during his law enforcement career. 51 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: According to several news. 52 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 3: Outlets, he replied no, even though l pass a police 53 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 3: department where he once worked. Those records show that he 54 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: in fact had been suspended eight times. 55 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: That's a big difference. 56 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: Okay, that's hard to for that to slip your mind. 57 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,399 Speaker 1: Maybe one twenty years ago, maybe you're forgud, but that's 58 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: an eight Wow. Why jeez? 59 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: That is incredibly difficult to explain. 60 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 3: So yes, So what they're going to look at is 61 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 3: his work history, misrepresentation and alleged false testimony. Those are 62 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 3: the two big points of contention that they're going to 63 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 3: be reviewing next week. 64 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: And the other issue having to do with some they 65 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: had to go back and correct the year. This seemed 66 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: like a minor issue, with some are saying it is 67 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: a big issue. 68 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 3: Yes, So when he said he left his previous job, it. 69 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 3: Actually he was actually, they claim, forced to resign two 70 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: years earlier than he said he left that police department. 71 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 3: So they're saying that there was actually a disciplinary issue 72 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 3: and he was allowed to resign. If he hadn't resigned, 73 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 3: he would have then faced disciplinary action. Among the allegations 74 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 3: was using excessive force. 75 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: But again you're saying, and they are saying, some of 76 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: this was already boiling before. Correctly, Again, it's been a 77 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: month and a half since she disappeared, so a month 78 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: and a half ago, and before that he was already 79 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: under pretty intense scrutiny. It sounds like correct. 80 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 3: And so, hearing directly from the supervisor, the district supervisor 81 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 3: who will be leading this Board of supervisor's discussion next week, 82 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 3: he is already given a quote to Newsweek saying that 83 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 3: the sheriff, he doesn't think the sheriff can remain in 84 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 3: his position is his belief that the sheriff will be removed, 85 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 3: and he said he has betrayed the trust that our 86 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 3: community placed in him. Without that trust, he cannot effectively 87 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,239 Speaker 3: lead the department. So this is actually a really big 88 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 3: deal that could have significant implications when you look at 89 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 3: now what's going on on day forty five in the 90 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 3: search for Nancy Guthrie. And there have been some developments, 91 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 3: and the sheriff actually made some pretty dramatic statements last 92 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 3: week even on this case. 93 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: See I wonder I didn't know about everything that was 94 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: going on there before this case. And there were times 95 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: where I wondered about his standing in the community and 96 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: in some of his behavior, and what he was doing, 97 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: and why he was doing it, what might have been 98 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: his motivations for this or that. And he did look, 99 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: I know, the national spotlight was on him, so I 100 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: gave him a break on it. But I wonder if 101 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: any of what was happening was playing in how he 102 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: handled things, if he was a little nervous, he was 103 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: a little too careful, a little too aggressive. 104 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. 105 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 3: He probably thought, great, this is exactly what I need, 106 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 3: the world spotlight directly on me, when I already know 107 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 3: my enemies are looking to have me thrown out. Now 108 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 3: I've got a like I am literally under the microscope. 109 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 3: And he did acknowledge that this recall is happening. He 110 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 3: said through I believe a state's a statement through a spokesperson, 111 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 3: we are aware of the recall and it's the right 112 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 3: of the people. 113 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: So he's just saying, let the democratic process take place. 114 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 3: But he's just acknowledged that he's aware of the recall, 115 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 3: he's aware that this process is about to begin, and 116 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 3: he will accept whatever is decided. 117 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,239 Speaker 1: Tuesday is it next? What are they meeting at nine. 118 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: Am local time? Tuesday, March twenty fourth. 119 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 3: But you know, it's it's sad because this is just 120 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 3: a distraction to the efforts that are certainly under way 121 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 3: still and I'm sure the Guthrie family this is the 122 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 3: last thing they want to see. Now you've got this 123 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 3: political issue where you got you know, in fighting within 124 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,239 Speaker 3: the different departments who are supposed to be collectively working 125 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 3: to try and find eighty four year old Nancy Guthrie. 126 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 3: This can't be a very positive development for the Guthrie 127 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 3: family to witness. 128 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: Well, you know, even yeah, on that end, from the 129 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: investigative end, but rolls on a personal level too. I'm 130 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: sure they have spent a lot of time with this 131 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: Shra and Giden them know him and probably have talked 132 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,799 Speaker 1: to him every day in some way the forty five days, 133 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: so that probably could sting. We don't know what's going 134 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: to happen with him. But this is all happening right now. 135 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: This other thing about with the lawsuit, there was an 136 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,559 Speaker 1: inmate who is now reportedly sued for a million plus 137 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: dollars saying that he was mistreated and something that the 138 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: sheriff did risks his life while he was in prison. 139 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 2: So that's again you can go one million dollar lawsuit, you. 140 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: Call that frivolous, but still that's something that was also 141 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: making headlines. But as all this was going on, folks, 142 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: there are there are some updates and the Nancy Guthrie investigation. 143 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: Stay here, we'll tell you what those are. 144 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: Welcome back, everyone. 145 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 3: It is day forty five in the search for Nancy Guthrie, 146 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 3: and there are some new developments beyond just what's happening 147 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 3: and the drama surrounding the sheriff in this case. 148 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: There are reports. 149 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 3: Fox News is reporting that a masked suspect has been 150 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: seen on video three weeks before Nancy Guthrie was abducted. 151 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 3: She was last seen January thirty first. This image of 152 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 3: this mass suspect on apparently on Nancy Guthrie's property, was 153 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 3: captured on January eleventh, and there are reports now that 154 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 3: police and investigators the FBI specifically, are going now and 155 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 3: asking neighbors and canvassing the area, focused on two dates, 156 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 3: January eleventh and January twenty fourth, And a lot of 157 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 3: folks say this is a positive development. It sounds like 158 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 3: they are acting on something specific. 159 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a masked man in the neighborhood. How many 160 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: weeks was this ahead of that? 161 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 2: Three weeks before the actual abduction. 162 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: That's huge, is it not? That's your guy. We have 163 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: to assume that's your guy. So three weeks. That suggests 164 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: a lot of planning, casing the era been in the 165 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: neighborhood before that. What that suggests is could yes, this 166 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: could be an enormous yes. 167 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 3: And look, the sheriff at the end of last week 168 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: reiterated something that we had heard him say before that 169 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 3: they believe and they still believe, that Nancy Guthrie was targeted. 170 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 3: He said, quote, I'd be silly to tell people don't 171 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 3: worry about it. 172 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: You're not his target. You could be. 173 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 3: And he went on to say, don't think for a 174 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 3: minute that because it happened to the Guthrie family, you're safe. No, 175 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 3: keep your wits about you. From day one, we had 176 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 3: some strong beliefs about what happened, and those beliefs haven't diminished. 177 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 3: That is fairly ominous. We certainly didn't hear that kind 178 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 3: of language in the early stages of the investigation, so 179 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,599 Speaker 3: it's interesting to hear that now forty five days or 180 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 3: at least five six weeks into the investigation. 181 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 2: What do you make of that? 182 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: Robes? I would like for him actually to do press 183 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: conferences and do all this at one time, because what's happened. Robes. 184 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: He keeps sitting down and doing these individual interviews with 185 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: a lot of local affiliates, sometimes national folks, and there's 186 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: no real new update, so people are trying to pluck 187 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: out any little thing he says, and everything now becomes 188 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: elevated and a big deal when it's not actually a 189 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: big deal. And he has sent us all kinds of 190 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: different directions in some of these interviews. 191 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 3: You know, we have decided multiple days now in the 192 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 3: last few weeks because we haven't given a Nancy Guthrie 193 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 3: update because we didn't feel like anything rose to the level. 194 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 3: But you'll know, if you're on your phones or online, 195 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 3: you'll see almost every news outlet will find some way 196 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 3: to take a little drip from either someone who's guessing 197 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 3: a former FBI agent who's looking at what whether or 198 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 3: not they're using cadaver dogs well enough, or trying to 199 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 3: read the tea leaves about what the sheriff said to 200 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 3: this reporter. So, look, there hasn't been anything that has 201 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 3: been overwhelming enough to get back on and give anyone 202 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 3: a real update, except for this, I think is fairly significant. 203 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 3: It obviously is going to have an impact on this 204 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 3: case that the sheriff is removed and speaks to just 205 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: the level of confidence he has in the community. That 206 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 3: has a huge impact on people trusting the police department, 207 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 3: coming forward to the police department. And look, while all 208 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 3: this is going on, we know the Guthrie family and 209 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 3: the FBI putting up billboards all around the area. They're 210 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 3: still trying to reach anyone. It seems hard to imagine 211 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 3: that if you live anywhere near the area, or frankly 212 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 3: anywhere in the United States, that you haven't heard of 213 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 3: this case. 214 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: Well except for the guy. Remember they had him in custody. 215 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: Who's Nancy guther Yeah, he actually didn't know. I'm sorry, 216 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: I just made me think of it at the time 217 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: when you said that. But yes to your point and 218 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: of this case rogued, You said, who could imagine? Who 219 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: could imagine? There's no way we thought forty five days later. Look, 220 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 1: there were times where you thought maybe she won't be 221 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: found alive, but there was forty five days out in 222 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: zero clue. They still don't even seem to be sure 223 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: what country they should be looking at. 224 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 3: No. I mean, certainly they've talked about how they did 225 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 3: reach out to Mexican authorities to keep an eye out. 226 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 3: This is near the Mexico border, or at least close 227 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 3: enough where it would be within the realm of possibilities 228 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 3: that that could have happened. But certainly this is I'm 229 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 3: imagining being a neighbor. And look, there have been neighbors 230 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 3: in the area who say the FBI has come by 231 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 3: their house five six times to ask them different questions 232 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 3: about different dates, looking at. 233 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: More video, looking at more door bell. 234 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 3: There's a big concern now that folks, I don't know 235 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 3: if it's every month or every eight weeks, where you've 236 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 3: got your tapes or your video recorders, however you're housing 237 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 3: in on whatever file deletes or replenishes. So they're just 238 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 3: trying to make sure they have every bit of visual 239 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 3: evidence they could possibly have, But my god, I never 240 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 3: would have imagined six weeks after we first reported on 241 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 3: February first, that eighty four year old Nancy Guthrie was 242 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 3: missing blood on her front porch steps eventually a masked 243 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 3: man on a doorbell camera. It's still we have. It 244 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 3: doesn't seem as though we're any closer now. That doesn't 245 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 3: mean they aren't, but as far as we can tell, yeah, 246 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 3: they know that a mass man maybe came three weeks earlier. 247 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 2: And that's about as far as it goes. 248 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 3: So of course we will continue to keep our eye 249 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 3: on this, and of course we'll jump on and give 250 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 3: you all an update if it warrants, But we certainly 251 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 3: hope that's the case. For Savannah, we know she made 252 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 3: it to the studios was it last week and just 253 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 3: a reunion with folks she hadn't seen in weeks now, 254 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 3: but just can't imagine what she's going through. A no 255 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 3: update when she will go back to the Today Show set. 256 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 2: But in the meantime, thank you all for listening to us. 257 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 2: We always appreciate you. I'm Ami Robock alongside TJ. Holmes. 258 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 2: We will talk to you soon.