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Speaker 2: There was a beat down in the bay and it
Speaker 2: wasn't and it wasn't rendered by the forty nine. It
Speaker 2: was the Ravens that that brought their show on the road.
Speaker 2: The first team with five picks in the game the season.
Speaker 2: Their defense overwhelmed the front runner. At the start of
Speaker 2: the game, MVP brought party picked them off what looked
Speaker 2: like a very promising drive to start the opening possession,
Speaker 2: Oho Kyle Hamilton made a great play on the ball
Speaker 2: he intercepted it and they really never looked back from
Speaker 2: that point. The offense scored seven points and scored points
Speaker 2: on seven straight possessions. The Ravens offense scored points on
Speaker 2: seven straight possessions and led by as many as twenty one.
Speaker 2: And I know the score. Final score was thirty three
Speaker 2: to nineteen, but the score, it was an indicative of
Speaker 2: how what a demolition job the Ravens did on the
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers. The Baltimore Ravens won five straight games
Speaker 2: and can clinch the number one seed next week. Would
Speaker 2: a win against the Miami Dolphins. OHO, when you look
Speaker 2: at this game, what was one of your what was
Speaker 2: a couple of your big takeaways?
Speaker 1: Listen? Obviously when I had picked thinking about it, I
Speaker 1: had picked the Ravens to win the game. But then
Speaker 1: I thought about, how could the Ravens win this game
Speaker 1: with a high powered offense, the Juggernaar offense that is
Speaker 1: a forty nine ers, And the first thing I thought about.
Speaker 1: And when it comes to NFL games, it's all about matchups.
Speaker 1: It's all about match ups and schemes, and how well
Speaker 1: do the Ravens defense matchup against the forty nine Ers offense.
Speaker 1: It's all about personnel. It's all about personnel and the
Speaker 1: players you have at each position, and how does each
Speaker 1: position match up individually, And they match up really well,
Speaker 1: really well. But what scared me about this game is
Speaker 1: they had the turnovers early. They had the turnovers early.
Speaker 1: They got one testdown to the turnovers, but they had
Speaker 1: two field goals. They had two field goals, and I
Speaker 1: just kept I kept thinking to myself, well, if it
Speaker 1: gets getting field goals, that will still get your beat
Speaker 1: because the offense.
Speaker 3: Of the forty nine ers is very high powered.
Speaker 1: Yes, they had three interceptions, forty nine went down to score,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it was a one point game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you you hadn't capitalized, is it all?
Speaker 3: So that kind of scared me a little bit about it.
Speaker 3: Now I had.
Speaker 1: Tweeted, I had tweeted it.
Speaker 3: I said, listen, you're raying.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna get these turnovers, you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to score points, not no goddamn field goals.
Speaker 1: Let's make it a barn burner and you know, run
Speaker 1: away with the game. So defensively, you can force the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers to make mistakes and get outside of
Speaker 1: the game plan on what they really like to do
Speaker 1: and listen, they ended up winning. Lamar Now Lamar is
Speaker 1: twenty one and one versus n f C, NFC teams
Speaker 1: in his career.
Speaker 3: Yeah, best in staff, thinks, best in Stabler. Just the merger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was twenty three for thirty thirty five for
Speaker 1: two fifty two two tds say Flowers, say Flowers, nice man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the boy you mentioned, you mentioned the twenty
Speaker 2: two to thirty five and zero touchdown.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was a clean game, clean no picks.
Speaker 1: Notice no picks. They was now for seventy two and
Speaker 1: the td The Ravens have won nine of the last
Speaker 1: ten games, landon nine of the last ten games, plus
Speaker 1: they had Saxon party. Listen the remaining schedule for the Ravens. Obviously,
Speaker 1: they had a gauntlet of games to play. The last four.
Speaker 1: They got the Dolphins and the Steelers coming up right, Dolphins,
Speaker 1: that's that's another that's another test, another another playoff atmosphere
Speaker 1: type game against the Dolphins, which has another high powered offense,
Speaker 1: just like just like the Boy.
Speaker 2: The Ravens because the Dolphins won that number one seed.
Speaker 1: Also, hey, they want anything to come through to come through,
Speaker 1: come through Miami.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, you're right, You're absolutely right. The Ravens take
Speaker 2: get five, they get five turnovers, four sacks, two on party,
Speaker 2: two on Sam Darneld. But I thought the face, oh
Speaker 2: shoe when you look at and for like the last
Speaker 2: five weeks, I think everybody had come to the conclusion
Speaker 2: the two best teams in the NFL were the Baltimore
Speaker 2: Ravens in the San Francisco forty nine Right, Okay, I said,
Speaker 2: I say, we're gonna find out who what you got
Speaker 2: going on come Christmas? Right now, When you got two
Speaker 2: teams and we're right here, what's the one thing that
Speaker 2: can put the other team way up on top of you?
Speaker 1: Turnovers? Turnovers?
Speaker 2: You look at look at what the forty nine ers,
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers had been beaten people. The Ravens
Speaker 2: did to them what they had been doing the other team.
Speaker 2: When you turned the ball over that many times, O Jo,
Speaker 2: it's hard.
Speaker 3: For you to win.
Speaker 2: I don't care how great your offense is, and I
Speaker 2: don't care how great your defense is. The likelihood of
Speaker 2: you keeping them the kick field goals, that's great, But
Speaker 2: the likelihood when you got a guy that's won the MVP.
Speaker 2: He's in the MVP discussion right now, and now he's
Speaker 2: probably in the lead. Considering the guy that I mean
Speaker 2: and and and perty was a substantial was in substantial
Speaker 2: lead in front of Lamar. But considering how bad he
Speaker 2: looked and how good Lamar looked, it's hard for me
Speaker 2: to see a scenario that he's not the favorite. And
Speaker 2: I believe Christy MacCaffrey, who was in third is now
Speaker 2: in second, considering that he looked good and Party looked
Speaker 2: so bad. But Lamar deservingly so deserves to be in
Speaker 2: the MVP discussion because he was good with it. He
Speaker 2: was he didn't turn the ball over, he made plays.
Speaker 1: You see.
Speaker 3: The thing is O Joe.
Speaker 2: When I watched the forty nine ers and I watched
Speaker 2: him very closely, they're a team that like to jump
Speaker 2: off the ball and go get the quarterback. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: but if you see how they rush. They rushed right
Speaker 2: down to man. They didn't want to give him lane
Speaker 2: that he can take off running. Well, you make the
Speaker 2: offensive line job very easy if you don't get on edges.
Speaker 2: So now all they just do is anchor let you
Speaker 2: walking back a step by step. And now Lamar has
Speaker 2: time to survey the field, because the one thing it
Speaker 2: seemed like they didn't want to do is give him
Speaker 2: a lane and let him jump out the window and
Speaker 2: take off right.
Speaker 1: And this is what I liked about Lamar to night though,
Speaker 1: This is what I like about Lamar because coming out
Speaker 1: they say, oh, he's a running back. He's a running back,
Speaker 1: But now his game is a vaulved to the point
Speaker 1: where now I'm gonna drop back past her and I'm
Speaker 1: not running the ball unless I have to, unless I
Speaker 1: have no goddamn Helen choice, hell high water. I got
Speaker 1: to take off a runner and he acting like who
Speaker 1: deed he with? Not only is he escape in the pocket.
Speaker 1: So the forty nineers had their game plan. Can I
Speaker 1: ask you a question, what was both of the night.
Speaker 3: They rendered?
Speaker 2: They rented the office the defensive line you because Bolsa
Speaker 2: likes to bend the edge. Everybody wants to bend the
Speaker 2: edge and edge right, O Joe, if I run up field,
Speaker 2: what you think lebar A gonna do? He gonna step
Speaker 2: up in one of the step up And so now
Speaker 2: it's like it's like, oh, Joe's gonna be one of
Speaker 2: those games, O Joe, We're not gonna you know, that
Speaker 2: pass rush, so everything's gonna be quick or we're gonna
Speaker 2: try to run the ball. And then everybody look up
Speaker 2: and say, man, look at O yo numbers. Oh jo
Speaker 2: ain't have no chance to get the ball because of
Speaker 2: the offensive line, wasn't gonna be able to hold up.
Speaker 3: And see that's the thing.
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, you got and I
Speaker 2: understand what Steve Wilks, the defensive coordinator, was trying to do.
Speaker 2: He's like, guys, we don't want to give him an edge.
Speaker 2: We don't want to give him lane. We don't give it.
Speaker 2: We just want you know. But at some point in
Speaker 2: time used to look, guys, we tried it this way
Speaker 2: and we can't get him on the time.
Speaker 3: We got to change it up. Out Yoe right right right.
Speaker 2: I mean they say, hey, oh Joe, you got to
Speaker 2: go to the coach.
Speaker 3: Coach the dude sitting outside, I can't run the out.
Speaker 3: He's playing outside lebrt right right right.
Speaker 2: He cut give me a dig, give me, give me
Speaker 2: something that I'm breaking away because he's playing outside celebrity
Speaker 2: because he don't want me to run by him, and
Speaker 2: he don't want me to run this speed out.
Speaker 3: Well, at some point in time, you.
Speaker 2: Got to say, hey, go get the quarterback and if
Speaker 2: he and if he gets the lane, he gets a.
Speaker 1: Laye that's there on me. If he does do if
Speaker 1: he's on me, he does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Because how many times did he buy time? Finds
Speaker 2: a flower by time? Fine Bateman by time find likely likely?
Speaker 2: So so so what do we what are we doing
Speaker 2: at this point? And give him credit? I mean, you
Speaker 2: see the side on throws. He was making plays and
Speaker 2: he didn't put the ball in Harm's weight. The forty
Speaker 2: nine Ers put the ball in Harm's way, and the
Speaker 2: game got away from him. Like we've seen the Eagles
Speaker 2: put the ball in harms way. Forty nine Ers ran
Speaker 2: away from him. The Cowboys didn't have that many turnovers,
Speaker 2: but they Seeattle. Look at the team they beat, right,
Speaker 2: normally they win the turnover battle. You can't turn the
Speaker 2: ball over five times against a good footing the team
Speaker 2: in the Ravels. I believe the Ravens are the best
Speaker 2: team in the n AFC. I believe they were the
Speaker 2: best the second best team in the NFL. Well, I
Speaker 2: don't think anybody's gonna doubt now they're the best.
Speaker 3: Team in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Considering they've just beat what many thought was the best
Speaker 2: in the NFL and they went on the road to
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 1: Yep, that's fact. They winning Levi Stateium to do it.
Speaker 1: I think they are the best team in the NFL.
Speaker 1: But what I think it is is about hein your
Speaker 1: stride at the right time.
Speaker 3: I also would.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't out I wouldn't count out the god damn Rams,
Speaker 1: who are playing really good football at the right time
Speaker 1: their kids. They're catching their stride at the right time
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. The forty nine ers won't be
Speaker 1: playing a defense like like that of the forty nine ers.
Speaker 1: I think they like the Ravens like I'm sorry, like
Speaker 1: the Ravens. I think other teams that they will that
Speaker 1: they will match up with they can dominate based on personnel,
Speaker 1: based on what they do. From a schematic standpoint, they
Speaker 1: can have an advantage. But the Ravens for some reason,
Speaker 1: match up against them very very well, very well. And
Speaker 1: that's how I always say. It's one thing to look
Speaker 1: at the teams that are playing, but then you look
Speaker 1: at the personnel, and if you understand the personnel and
Speaker 1: the players that they have, you know that they match
Speaker 1: it with that team specific you know very well, oh Joe.
Speaker 2: If you look at the first interception, it's quarters coverage.
Speaker 2: There's nothing to hold the front.
Speaker 1: Side and safety, nothing at all. Nothing.
Speaker 2: Why would Why would I understand he's looked, okay, d
Speaker 2: boscross the backside safety faith, but what's holding the front
Speaker 2: side safety?
Speaker 3: Nothing?
Speaker 1: They had nothing there, They had nothing in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I'm looking, I'm like, bro, what are
Speaker 2: you seeing you when you First of all, we get
Speaker 2: a game plan, oh Joe, we come in a situation. Okay,
Speaker 2: on at this area of the field, this down and distance,
Speaker 2: this area of the field, this is the coverage they
Speaker 2: like to play, right, Okay, this is against this formation,
Speaker 2: against this formation, they'd like to play discoverage. So you
Speaker 2: have a general idea kind of the coverage that they're gonna.
Speaker 3: Play based on down the distance. Yeah, down the.
Speaker 2: Distance in area of the bro you dropped back, it's
Speaker 2: quarters the safety basically.
Speaker 3: Go drop straight back.
Speaker 2: I get it. You're trying to hold the backside. You
Speaker 2: flare one side and you run up. I think it's
Speaker 2: George Kittle. You ruin him like a square out. Now,
Speaker 2: the only way you can hold him is that if
Speaker 2: you have him push up higher.
Speaker 3: But if you notice the.
Speaker 2: Corner sunk on the back side, so there's really nothing
Speaker 2: not a safety doesn't have to do anything.
Speaker 3: He just see it. And and Kyle Hamilton like thank you.
Speaker 2: And then the other two interceptions, Bro Stevens come they
Speaker 2: run double slot blitz. Stevens come from one side, Marlon
Speaker 2: Humphrey comes from the other.
Speaker 3: He gets his hands up. He passed the ball up
Speaker 3: in there.
Speaker 2: Party tries to locate it well by this time Marlon
Speaker 2: Humphreys then jumping over. And then the other one, Kyle
Speaker 2: Hamilton's on the ground. He gets up off the ground
Speaker 2: off of Camon. You see how hustle. You see what hustle.
Speaker 2: You see what hustle does.
Speaker 1: And then and being with being in the right place
Speaker 1: at the right time, being in the right place at
Speaker 1: the right time.
Speaker 2: But did you watch those forty nine ers receivers? Did
Speaker 2: you see them going George Kill catch that ball? Did
Speaker 2: you see how you Yeah? Did you see do you
Speaker 2: see d Bo Do you see those guys, those guys
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about this later.
Speaker 3: But did you see the kiss on Davonte Smith runs?
Speaker 2: Yeah? You see how did you see how he hit him?
Speaker 2: On the dB on the ten and pakked him in
Speaker 2: the end. Hey, but in this game, kudos to the
Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens. You're right now the best team in football
Speaker 2: regardless of conference. Lamar Jackson is the MVP front runner.
Speaker 2: I believe That's what I was gonna ask you. I mean, basically, basically,
Speaker 2: you can actually give it to him.
Speaker 1: We got two games left in the season, and obviously
Speaker 1: you know, MVP is based on what you've done throughout
Speaker 1: the regular season regularly. They got the Dolphins and the
Speaker 1: Steelers next. I think the showing against the Dolphins at
Speaker 1: home at M and T Bank Center whatever it's called
Speaker 1: where they play, I think.
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna have a good game.
Speaker 1: So if based on his showing these next two games,
Speaker 1: when you say Lamar Jackson would be the NFL's MVP
Speaker 1: regarding to know what the sics.
Speaker 2: But you know what did hold on? So you're telling
Speaker 2: me if he has a game like Rock Party, he's
Speaker 2: still the MVP.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's not gonna have it. He's not.
Speaker 1: Did you think you listen that Offensively? Offensively, the Ravens
Speaker 1: aren't a volume passing team like the forty nine Ers are.
Speaker 1: The forty nine ers are the chances of having a
Speaker 1: game like that, it's slim to none.
Speaker 2: You know, Brock Party throw the twenty six most passes
Speaker 2: in the NFL, even though he was second in passing yards.
Speaker 2: The volume team, they are a running team and the
Speaker 2: past think about the passes that they throw.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe their swing pass que quick quick, quick, Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: I see you're going with it. I see you're going
Speaker 1: with it.
Speaker 3: But you got two games to go.
Speaker 2: A lot of things can happen in two games, right
Speaker 2: But right now, as they're getting there showering and feeling
Speaker 2: good about themselves and rightfully so, Lamar Jackson is your
Speaker 2: MVP right now? Okay, okay, he's MVP, Like right now,
Speaker 2: I got Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 1: It's second, it's second. I'm gonna go out on I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go out on a limb. I'm gonna go out
Speaker 1: on the limb. And knowing would it only be in
Speaker 1: two games left, the momentum, the confidence, the morale that
Speaker 1: the team has right now, I have a good feeling
Speaker 1: that that momentum is gonna continue into next week, and
Speaker 1: obviously it's gonna continue on to the Steelers and he
Speaker 1: probably will be the MVP for the second time.
Speaker 2: It's just something about here's the thing. You know, the
Speaker 2: Ravens and the Steelers don't like each other. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: the Vision rival.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know about that. I know about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now that you look, you know how the Vision
Speaker 2: rival games go. But there's nothing. I mean, this is
Speaker 2: like Michigan, Ohio State. This is North Carolina. This is
Speaker 2: North Carolina, duke right, right, they just they just this
Speaker 2: the imccoy. They despise each other.
Speaker 3: Yeah, literally, literally they do.
Speaker 2: And if you think the state, because the Steelers are
Speaker 2: gonna probably need to win that game to make the playoffs, right,
Speaker 2: so you ship.
Speaker 3: Right, that's right, that's right, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's because the Ravens Clinton clint the division, so
Speaker 2: now they need this to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna make the implications of that game even
Speaker 1: that much more serious. But it still is. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if I get a chance to it, let's
Speaker 2: see him. Not only can I clinch the division, I
Speaker 2: can make sure somebody else have home Fielder's tell of you, hey,
Speaker 2: I get two birds fore I get one. But it's
Speaker 2: gonna be great congratulations to the Baltimore Ravens. Go on
Speaker 2: the road three time zones. That's a long way to travel,
Speaker 2: O Joe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, listen, it's gonna be a beautiful flight home.
Speaker 1: I know that ain't nothing gonna be a beautiful flight home.
Speaker 1: So if you lost, if if you had lost, you
Speaker 1: gotta take that five off a flight from.
Speaker 3: The West to the east, it ain't gonna be ain't
Speaker 3: gonna be pretty.
Speaker 2: And then getting home, I mean it's already midnight on
Speaker 2: the East. They haven't even left the stadium yet.
Speaker 1: Nah, not at all. They ain't gonna They ain't gonna
Speaker 1: They ain't gonna take off until maybe lem me see
Speaker 1: a team fifty three players stabbed, got an unload all
Speaker 1: the equipment.
Speaker 3: They probably ain't gonna take off till about one o'clock.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, about one one, one, one fifteen. Oh choke,
Speaker 2: Yeah about that East coast time, it'll be ten, it'll
Speaker 2: be ten ten thirty Western time. But we took because
Speaker 2: they traveling east, So that's a five, that's a They
Speaker 2: ain't gonna get home till about six thirty seven am,
Speaker 2: easily easily, because that's what happened.
Speaker 3: When we got back. We uh.
Speaker 2: We played Miami on a Monday night and we and
Speaker 2: we had to come back to Denver. Oh, Joe, I
Speaker 2: was like, and Mike's like, okay, you know you got
Speaker 2: off and I know them to come in Hell.
Speaker 3: I just started.
Speaker 2: I worked out, I got my stuff, I changed out
Speaker 2: about my clothes. I got me a work out, said
Speaker 2: I see y'all on Wednesday, right right, right, right, hey,
Speaker 2: already five thirty six o'clock.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna get my workout.
Speaker 1: Get it, get it and get it out of the way, get.
Speaker 3: It and be done with it. Congratulations Ravens. A gut check.
Speaker 2: Let the forty nine ers know, a bro, there's some
Speaker 2: things we need to work on, because at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, no matter how good we are, we
Speaker 2: turn that ball over will come very average. No team
Speaker 2: has ever been good enough to overcome five turnover, especially
Speaker 2: when you're dealing with the Baltimore Ravens on the other side.
Speaker 3: So congratulations Ravens.
Speaker 2: They're the AFCED North champs and currently still the number
Speaker 2: one seed and Lamar Jackson NFL front runner for the MVP.
Speaker 2: O Joe, We've already got forty thousand in the chat.
Speaker 2: What they're coming, Yes, forty thousand.
Speaker 1: Hey, forty thousand people. I love y'all, I appreciate you.
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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson is the MVP of the league. The numbers
Speaker 2: don't tell the whole story. Several times tonight he showed
Speaker 2: himself to be the Zach Nobody we said this. No
Speaker 2: quarterback is asked to carry a load like Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2: He's for the most part, we already know he's the quarterback,
Speaker 2: so we know he's their passing game. But he's also
Speaker 2: the engine of the running game. And even though what
Speaker 2: he had to night he only had forty five yards,
Speaker 2: they only had I mean, it was I mean, you
Speaker 2: look at the old shoe. They only had twenty six carries.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they they had twenty six.
Speaker 2: Carries for basically one hundred and two yards, and a
Speaker 2: lot of that was a scrabb But you remember he
Speaker 2: had that long thirty yard run, right, he ended up
Speaker 2: getting them a field goal run. And so but yeah,
Speaker 2: we understand what's asked of Lamar on a on a
Speaker 2: weekly basis very few, because no other quarterback, I mean
Speaker 2: can run of the top quarterback obviously Justin Field has
Speaker 2: legs like he had right Justin Fields, you know, that
Speaker 2: situation is what it is of the top quarterback, the Burroughs,
Speaker 2: the Mahomes, the Herbert that tour, none of them is
Speaker 2: asked to shoulder a load like Lamar. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the funny thing what I really liked what they've
Speaker 1: done for Lamar, and they can even they can even
Speaker 1: improve it more as the supporting cast that they put
Speaker 1: around them to take the owners and the load off
Speaker 1: of his shoulders on not having the run, which is
Speaker 1: why I like the fact that he's now becoming what
Speaker 1: I like to consider more of a complete passion. Because
Speaker 1: you have receivers that can get open, actually get open
Speaker 1: in one D one situations. You ain't got to scheme
Speaker 1: everybody because you ain't even be able to scheme people
Speaker 1: open all the damn time.
Speaker 2: And we're going to talk about this a little lady
Speaker 2: with the other team that we talked about, and what
Speaker 2: I tell you, Ojo, Yeah, them are chiefs.
Speaker 1: Oh listen, did you see all sides today? I'm just
Speaker 1: asking you did you see all offenses today? One more question?
Speaker 2: Did you see a.
Speaker 1: Drop ball today? Yes? Yes? Oh yeah, okay, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: okay yeah. But the you know, the NFL.
Speaker 2: You see what's happened Ojo that all the teams started
Speaker 2: sending the off side plays in o Jo. They've called
Speaker 2: most more off sides on offensive wide receivers this year.
Speaker 2: Then I can recall I don't remember that many calls
Speaker 2: in my fourteen year playing career here.
Speaker 1: Do you remember it? No, honestly, you know, and the
Speaker 1: fact that it was brought to our attention when the
Speaker 1: Chiefs had Canarius lining up both sides, not everybody. They
Speaker 1: opened the floodgates call every single time. And you know,
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny. You know what I like to do,
Speaker 1: and I can say it not because I'm not playing
Speaker 1: no more. I like to cheat the ball a little bit.
Speaker 1: Of course, I like to cheat the ball a little bit,
Speaker 1: just just a tab bit, because I think it's not
Speaker 1: gonna call it. It's not like Egregious completely offside. But
Speaker 1: I like to get a little ed, just a little bit, just.
Speaker 2: A little maybe maybe my face master is over the ball. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna block you. I'm not gonna block if
Speaker 2: you you just can't block. If view face mask, he
Speaker 2: still can look down the line and see the ball
Speaker 2: see it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, and uh held up red hood.
Speaker 2: You disappointed me thinking brock Perty is as good as
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson and thinking he's elite in pre.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't like what you know before you even answer that,
Speaker 1: before you even answer to him. I hate the comparison
Speaker 1: to quarterbacks. I hate the comparison quarterbacks for the simple
Speaker 1: fact everything is stat based for one rightfully so as
Speaker 1: you always tell me, because numbers don't lie. But the
Speaker 1: skill sets, they don't tell the whole story, the whole story.
Speaker 1: But the skill sets between Rock Perry Lamar Jackson are
Speaker 1: completely different.
Speaker 3: Oh, completely different.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe.
Speaker 2: Remember when they was having this early on when he
Speaker 2: beat the Cowboys. I was one of the only analysts
Speaker 2: that said Rock Party is an elite see your head.
Speaker 3: They was on your head as head.
Speaker 2: Yes, but here's the thing. They got a next see see.
Speaker 2: They don't want to listen to what I have to say.
Speaker 2: They just want to take snippets of he said this
Speaker 2: over here, he said that over there.
Speaker 3: I never said Rock Party was elite.
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I was one of the
Speaker 2: few that said he was an elite. Second of all,
Speaker 2: just because someone is playing good, that doesn't make them better.
Speaker 2: You can have a better year than a quarterback and
Speaker 2: not be a better player.
Speaker 3: But it's so hard to understand about that.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, there are a lot of people that want
Speaker 2: MVP doing Michael Jordan tenure. Does that mean they were
Speaker 2: better players or they had a better year. That's okay.
Speaker 2: Same thing with Lebron, same thing with Kobe. Y'all got
Speaker 2: to stop this. See y'all trying to paint this picture now.
Speaker 2: None of y'all jumped and said, Shannon, thanks for supporting Lamar,
Speaker 2: because when everybody else was telling him the switch positions
Speaker 2: and go play wide receiver, I was the one that said,
Speaker 2: I saw the man win the Heisman Trophy throwing the
Speaker 2: ball and running.
Speaker 3: It at the quarterback position.
Speaker 2: At the quarterback position, I believe he can do that
Speaker 2: in the NFL when he was going for the MVP.
Speaker 2: I remember his first with his first playoff game against
Speaker 2: the US the Chargers. They were still in San Diego then,
Speaker 2: and they lost and he didn't play well. I said,
Speaker 2: the guy's a rookie and that he's not right now
Speaker 2: able to throw the ball well enough in order to win.
Speaker 2: And what did he do? He came back and from
Speaker 2: start to finish he was the MVP thirty six and six,
Speaker 2: thirty six touchdown, six interception. I roll with it, but
Speaker 2: they disregard all that. See what y'all want, barter man,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead and say it. See y'all got
Speaker 2: a problem with me. Y'all don't want me to critique
Speaker 2: black players as long as I'm critiquing the white players.
Speaker 2: Because when I was at Baker Mayfield and Tony Romo
Speaker 2: and all those white guys neckt y'all did say hi.
Speaker 2: But now if Lamar Jackson plays good, I got no problem.
Speaker 2: Dak plays good, I got no problem. But I cannot,
Speaker 2: in good conscience know the game like I know it,
Speaker 2: played it fourteen years and now study it as if
Speaker 2: I'm a coach.
Speaker 3: See something that's going on.
Speaker 2: I told y'all from day one the Cowboys concerning because
Speaker 2: the red zone offense and what happened when the defense
Speaker 2: don't get picked sixes. Oh now, all of a sudden, man,
Speaker 2: an't we's right, But that's not what you're said, at
Speaker 2: the time, you said I was a hater, But I
Speaker 2: told you from day one about the Chiefs offense, the
Speaker 2: skill position, and the offensive line.
Speaker 3: Oh shut up.
Speaker 2: And what did I say? Oh you remember man if
Speaker 2: vaddelv Scander had to hold that ball? I said, Oh, Joe,
Speaker 2: you gotta be careful because to see if you base
Speaker 2: somebody's offense on one plate, look at it, at its totality.
Speaker 2: Look how many times they dropped the ball. Look how
Speaker 2: many times Patrick Mahomes had to run for his life
Speaker 2: just to find somebody that would open or take off running. Man,
Speaker 2: y'all stop this. I ain't got no agenda again against Lamar. Yes,
Speaker 2: I played for the Ravens. This is how it works.
Speaker 2: I played for the Ravens. I played my ass up
Speaker 2: for the Ravens. I was fortunate enough helped them win
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. Now I'm an analyst. What it's so
Speaker 2: hard to understand about that?
Speaker 1: Just like I.
Speaker 2: Critique the Broncos play twelve years from them, I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna stop. Guys. I don't care what y'all say. How
Speaker 2: many times y'all said I hate Lamar. I got an agenda.
Speaker 2: I do have an agenda to be the best at
Speaker 2: what I do and none of y'all, nobody that's in
Speaker 2: this chat no more football and can break it down
Speaker 2: and analyze the game like I can. So y'all use
Speaker 2: y'all criteria to how y'all crewture, critique and grave players,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna use my take off Joe.
Speaker 1: Well, it's hard to follow up behind a sermon like that,
Speaker 1: it's hard to fallow up behind a sermon like that.
Speaker 1: But listen, I understand where people are coming from. I
Speaker 1: see I'm on both sides of both sides of the coin.
Speaker 3: Obviously.
Speaker 1: I think people think more emotion as if they think
Speaker 1: more with emotions, yeah, feeling, you know, emotions and being
Speaker 1: a fan of obviously the team and the player.
Speaker 3: So they want it to be one way.
Speaker 1: They want your views to be aligned with theirs, and
Speaker 1: when they don't align with theirs, then there's a problem.
Speaker 1: Oh you don't like this person or you're hating on
Speaker 1: this person. But again, you have a job to do.
Speaker 1: The criterion which you judge and critique people is much
Speaker 1: different than those who are actually fans of the player
Speaker 1: and fans of the team.
Speaker 3: If people have to understand.
Speaker 2: That, Yes, Marcus hosted calm down, raven Fans.
Speaker 3: You've you've been fair with your critique. Appreciate that. Marcus.
Speaker 2: I like to think I'm always fair, But I just
Speaker 2: got to call it like I see it is. And
Speaker 2: I know it's hard to understand. I was the first
Speaker 2: one to say about the Eagles. Y'all didn't want to
Speaker 2: hear me. Y'all call me a fans called me a hater.
Speaker 2: I say, you don't run the ball. Jayler Hurst is
Speaker 2: turning the ball over too much, and your defense don't
Speaker 2: get to the quarterback, and you don't take the wall away.
Speaker 2: So if you give it away and you don't take
Speaker 2: it away and you can't possess the ball to keep
Speaker 2: your defense off the field, you're gonna be in trouble
Speaker 2: and you're not gonna look as powerful and as potent
Speaker 2: as you did last year. Last year, Yeah, we're the
Speaker 2: best team in the NFL, but never fully healthy. Jk's
Speaker 2: been gone, Marcus gone, Staily is part time left tackle,
Speaker 2: and we still find ways. You have that's because of Harball.
Speaker 2: That's because the Ravens don't make excuses. I mean, when
Speaker 2: I went there in two thousand, you played like a Raven.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter who's in the ball game, you play
Speaker 2: hard and that's what That's what John Harbor I can
Speaker 2: honestly say, those guys are gonna play hard regard I
Speaker 2: think about the great players that's coming gone from Jonathan Ogden,
Speaker 2: ray Lewis Suggs, Ed Reid. Doesn't matter, it doesn't matter
Speaker 2: who's in the lineup. It's what you have to do.
Speaker 2: The uniform that you have on, you have on that
Speaker 2: purple and black, or you have on that white and purple. Well,
Speaker 2: we know who we are, we know what we represent.
Speaker 2: The standard is the standard. You play to a level
Speaker 2: no matter who's in the game, no matter who you play,
Speaker 2: and that's why the Ravens have been able to find success.
Speaker 2: No matter who's in the ball game. They don't always win.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna win them all. But if you play
Speaker 2: hard and you play for the man next to you,
Speaker 2: you're not gonna have a problem.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Dan Boying said, did people miss when unc with lobby
Speaker 2: for Lamar to get paid? Nahin' no, no, no to dad,
Speaker 2: stop you make too much sense. I've been said that
Speaker 2: should have past said. Hung on, how you not go?
Speaker 2: How you not gonna pay the man? Y'all? Gonna let
Speaker 2: the ink drawn his contract and then talking about why
Speaker 2: he not there. Y'all know why I not there. Everybody
Speaker 2: else got contracts after the third year. Every other quarterback,
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, Deshaun Watson, Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert, all of
Speaker 2: them guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hell they they did. Jaylen Herst a solid.
Speaker 2: This man got to play the contract completely, our ad
Speaker 2: play on the franchise tag. Yeah, come on, man, man,
Speaker 2: please let's get into this other game.
Speaker 3: Which one? Which one going to the Chiefs?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Hey, Jack Jones, Jack Jones, I know you in
Speaker 1: the chet watching black.
Speaker 3: I know I need a jersey, baby.
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs opened the game with back to back
Speaker 2: three in our drives, and the Chiefs did not get
Speaker 2: it first down without a penalty until.
Speaker 3: Their fourth possession.
Speaker 2: The Chiefs finished the first first quarter with minus eighteen yards,
Speaker 2: the worst quarter by team since the Bears had minus
Speaker 2: twenty week fifteen of four Week fifteen, two thousand and four.
Speaker 2: We saw my Homes laying into his offensive line on
Speaker 2: the sideline. We saw Travis Kelsey get saw Ort pay
Speaker 2: slang his helmet and the equipment guy tried to go
Speaker 2: get his helmet, and Andy reason, Nah, don't give him
Speaker 2: his help man, and he bumped it. He's like, come on,
Speaker 2: now you are leader. We can't have you like that.
Speaker 2: I understand the frustration. And that's what's hard, O Joe.
Speaker 2: Everybody's watching. Everybody's watching, and they got more cameras when
Speaker 2: you and I play, because everybody want to catch everything.
Speaker 2: That's why you your mouth on the side, read your lips.
Speaker 2: But what you see that you see the Chiefs had
Speaker 2: an opportunity to clinch the division for the eighth straight time,
Speaker 2: and the Raiders. I think Antonio Pierce deserves that job
Speaker 2: with the way he's coaching this team and the way
Speaker 2: they're playing hard for him, deserves that.
Speaker 3: I think he deserves that job.
Speaker 2: But you watch the Chiefs, and we've been talking about
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, and you see you.
Speaker 3: Thought it would They're gonna get this thing together.
Speaker 2: When you look at the Chiefs, and we're gonna touch
Speaker 2: on the Raiders also because we need to give them
Speaker 2: the flyers.
Speaker 3: Also when you look at the Chiefs, what do you see?
Speaker 1: I see a team struggling. I see a team struggling.
Speaker 1: Similar how Lamar has to carry the load, but actually
Speaker 1: not as much anymore because of the supporting casti that
Speaker 1: they put around Lamar with the Ravens. I see Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes having to do more, having to do more with teams. Now, okay, listen,
Speaker 1: we plan, we plan, we plan. Were playing the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: What do we do. We're gonna lock it on Kelsey.
Speaker 1: We're gonna lock it on Kelsey. We're gonna line up
Speaker 1: all the linements based on him when we when we
Speaker 1: break this huddle, and we're gonna force everyone else to
Speaker 1: beat us. We're gonna force everyone else to beat us
Speaker 1: because what do we have to do? What?
Speaker 3: What do they have to do? Offensively? They have the
Speaker 3: scheme ways to get their players open?
Speaker 1: They have do they who do they have with the
Speaker 1: DNA or I call it the fortitude to be able
Speaker 1: to nobody one matchups consistently come hell high water. They don't.
Speaker 3: They don't have that. They don't have that.
Speaker 1: So it puts the owners in the pressure on Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1: They have to create miracles first down, create a miracle,
Speaker 1: second down, create a miracle third down. And it's just
Speaker 1: not possible. And now you're seeing the frustration boil over
Speaker 1: because everything is on his shoulders. Mm hmm. And Kelsey
Speaker 1: can't do it all. He can't do It's only so
Speaker 1: many it's only so many times what you put on
Speaker 1: film is going to work.
Speaker 3: At some point, the NFL catches up to you.
Speaker 1: At some point, the NFL catches up to the offense
Speaker 1: that you're running in your tendencies. And that is what
Speaker 1: we're seeing now because there's nobody over there. There's no
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, there's no Tyreek Hill. There's no security blanket
Speaker 1: for him right now, because the security blanket is Travis
Speaker 1: kelce Oh, well, we take Travis Kelcey out the game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we tell him what else you got?
Speaker 1: What else you get? That's no disrespect to anybody else
Speaker 1: on that team offensively.
Speaker 3: But I'm just calling a spade a spade.
Speaker 1: That has to be another outlet that is a threat
Speaker 1: that poses some type of threat, and they just don't
Speaker 1: have that.
Speaker 2: No, they do not have that. And you and I
Speaker 2: both know this. There's only so many formations you can run.
Speaker 2: There's only so many times you can bunch it or
Speaker 2: stack it. There's only so many times you can motion.
Speaker 2: There's only so many times you can get a three
Speaker 2: by one or two by two or three by two.
Speaker 2: There's only so many formations. And at some point in time,
Speaker 2: you got to have a guy that says, you know what,
Speaker 2: just go get open, just go get open. And they
Speaker 2: don't have that. You see, I'm watching DB's now. Dbs
Speaker 2: don't even get out of their back.
Speaker 3: Then they're not even moving.
Speaker 1: They're not even moving.
Speaker 2: You got a guy that you know can throw the
Speaker 2: ball over your head, he said, But y'all not gonna
Speaker 2: go down. Y'all not finna run no routes to go
Speaker 2: get it. So I'm sitting on everything. That's why the
Speaker 2: guy was talking about how you picked it. Now, Mahomes
Speaker 2: did throw it off his back, but.
Speaker 1: That too, Oh.
Speaker 3: You ain't see the receiver falling away from the.
Speaker 2: Ball, got Scott Moore.
Speaker 3: Yes, you gotta cup, you gotta attack the ball.
Speaker 2: Oh lord, see see you you and out here we
Speaker 2: see it's little. It's little stuff like that, oh Joe,
Speaker 2: that that allows a dB to undercut and to make
Speaker 2: a play on the ball. And because Patrick Mahomes is pressed,
Speaker 2: because now he feels, man, I gotta make every play
Speaker 2: and he's taking unnecessary risks putting it. Do you know
Speaker 2: the raiders or seventeen points and never completed the pass
Speaker 2: within those seventeen points.
Speaker 1: And Mahome.
Speaker 2: Look, Patrick Mahomes, he's accomplished what he's called accomplished. He's
Speaker 2: a two time league emm me P, a two times
Speaker 2: Super Bowl A winner with a Super Bowl MVPs. But
Speaker 2: right now he's pressing and he's not playing well. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it's exacerbated because he doesn't have anybody that can
Speaker 2: bail him out. He doesn't have anybody that he could
Speaker 2: just dump the ball to or just hand the ball to,
Speaker 2: like a Christian McCaffrey. Yeah, Rock, I mean brock Perty
Speaker 2: was struggling. They can still Christian McCaffrey still ended up
Speaker 2: with over one hundred yards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Home Mahomes doesn't have that. They're gonna
Speaker 1: have to They're gonna have to dress that. They're gonna
Speaker 1: have to address that in office.
Speaker 3: They could have addressed it. They had an opportunity to
Speaker 3: get the Hawk.
Speaker 1: The hot. I don't think the money was right. I
Speaker 1: don't think the money was right for the hot. I say,
Speaker 1: I don't think the money was right, and I think
Speaker 1: they feel like, you know it.
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't me saying, but you got to make
Speaker 3: the money right.
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. But they don't want they
Speaker 1: don't want to make the money right because they feel
Speaker 1: if Patrick Mahomes can get it done because he did.
Speaker 3: It without Tyreek before.
Speaker 1: So if we didn't have a dynamic player in Tyreek
Speaker 1: and he left, but we still won the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: I think we can get it done with the group
Speaker 1: we have in here now. But now as you see
Speaker 1: this season, now you have to address it. You have
Speaker 1: no choice but to get a dog in there. You
Speaker 1: have no choice.
Speaker 2: Nothing is more burstsome, burdensome, but tedious than expectations. See
Speaker 2: when Tyreek left, they didn't have no expectations. I don't
Speaker 2: think Mahomes can do it because looking he got a
Speaker 2: sky More and they had this guy, and they had
Speaker 2: that guy. There wasn't the expectations to get to it
Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl like it is this year. Because
Speaker 2: God Moore is in his second season, Kadarius Tony has
Speaker 2: a full season in this system, NBS has another year
Speaker 2: in this system. So the expectations this year were different
Speaker 2: than they were last year. And so now you see
Speaker 2: Scott Moore is bad, he's regressed, Kadarius Tony has a
Speaker 2: injury and he's.
Speaker 3: Not even dressing.
Speaker 1: Ross.
Speaker 3: I remember a ross.
Speaker 2: He was a freshman at Clemson and did a demolition
Speaker 2: job on Alabama. And you know, he had an injury
Speaker 2: that caused him the missile I think an entire season.
Speaker 2: And he has some issues off the field this year
Speaker 2: that caused him miss five or six games. And but
Speaker 2: like you said, they take Kelsey away, and there's like
Speaker 2: and because even Kelsey has been bitten by the drop bug.
Speaker 2: He had a ball, He had a ball, he jumped
Speaker 2: to catch it with one hand.
Speaker 3: And all he needed to do is this reach out.
Speaker 3: That's all he had to do.
Speaker 2: But all of a sudden, it's contagious and everybody's dropping
Speaker 2: the ball. Nobody's but the offensive line. I saw that
Speaker 2: the first game of the season. You you you signed
Speaker 2: a guy in Fridges from Jacksonville who was just a guy.
Speaker 2: You get done Vin Smith, who's agent, who was old
Speaker 2: and hurt last year in Tampa. Yeah, and you bring
Speaker 2: him in and guess what, he's old and he's hurt now,
Speaker 2: and so you bring the backup in and he's getting
Speaker 2: blown by by Coop everyplace. Max Crosby is a different animal.
Speaker 2: You know, I ain't seen nobody with the motive like he.
Speaker 1: Is completely different. Animal you know of who remember Jared Allen? Yes, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: got me a Jared Allen.
Speaker 2: You know Alan used to be in in Kansas City.
Speaker 2: I think I might have called one year him. I'm
Speaker 2: not certain, but you know he ended up going to
Speaker 2: a Minnesota Minnesota. But I saw Max Crosby line up
Speaker 2: on the offensive right side.
Speaker 3: They run a quick screen to Kelsey on the left.
Speaker 2: Side side, and he made the tackle tackle, I said,
Speaker 2: I said, And.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking to myself, I said, I know.
Speaker 2: Max Crosby just didn't make the tackle because I knew
Speaker 2: where he lined up.
Speaker 3: At on the opposite side of the God damn phield.
Speaker 3: He made the tackle, hit Kelsey dead in his face. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm like, what the hell? Now?
Speaker 2: Back to the Raiders. I still think they need a quarterback.
Speaker 2: They're wasting Davonte. I was just wating Davonte. Josh Jacob,
Speaker 2: I mean white rad I think that's hold on. Let
Speaker 2: me see hold on, let me get a bit the
Speaker 2: stash here. You know, I like, you know, I got
Speaker 2: new gas. You know, I feel like I'm I feel
Speaker 2: like I'm a Tom Cruise of Minoriti report. You know,
Speaker 2: I'll be hit that screezy I'll be hit. That's creepy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that what I be doing.
Speaker 2: Z White twenty two rushers the buck, forty five for
Speaker 2: there you wrong, remember o Jo Camp City was trying
Speaker 2: to get the ball back. I can't get y'all this
Speaker 2: ball back. Hold lo, let's take this thing over. He
Speaker 2: ran the air out of the ball, ended up be
Speaker 2: taking a nail down. So twenty two for a buck,
Speaker 2: forty five for him, twenty nine carries one fifty seven
Speaker 2: ain't no column was now the twenty one for sixty
Speaker 2: two yards.
Speaker 3: That just goes to show you turn them all over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they farm before touchdown through what a pig six
Speaker 2: four touchdown, had another interception that led to a field goal.
Speaker 3: That's fourteen points.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you scored fourteen again, it's getting very difficult
Speaker 2: for the candle. What oh yo, man, you know Kansas City,
Speaker 2: you already know you had to score twenty eight to
Speaker 2: thirty one to beat them in.
Speaker 1: There, beat them. Oh yeah, and this is just last year, now, yeah,
Speaker 1: just last year. It's the funny thing about it is
Speaker 1: Mahomes has been that great. He's been that great where
Speaker 1: it's almost as if he's damn their immortal at the quarterback.
Speaker 3: Position.
Speaker 1: That's the way he's made it look so far in
Speaker 1: the short amount of time to be able to win
Speaker 1: two Super Bowls. He's in what fifth year, fifth year
Speaker 1: or six year? Twenty sixteen was his rookie season, right, mahon.
Speaker 2: Twenty seventeen was his rookie season he won the MVP,
Speaker 2: and eighteen because Lamar was a rookie in eighteen won
Speaker 2: the mv nineteen and so yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, but well right, yeah, so what have you been
Speaker 1: able to accomplish in such a short amount of time.
Speaker 1: How good he is, how good he is with all
Speaker 1: the throws, and you know, we're enamored by some of
Speaker 1: the things that he can do on the field. Winning
Speaker 1: two Super Bowls and such a short amount of time,
Speaker 1: it's almost become a thought that, well, we can have lesser.
Speaker 3: Talent around him because he is so great.
Speaker 1: Yes, but now, at some point, like I said earlier,
Speaker 1: teams they study you, they watch film, they understand your tendencies,
Speaker 1: and we say, well, you know what, the only weapon
Speaker 1: they do have is eighty seven. So all we got
Speaker 1: to do is locking on him, and it's only so
Speaker 1: much creativity you can do.
Speaker 3: Listen, when they.
Speaker 1: Were rolling offensively, they were doing all type of ring
Speaker 1: around the.
Speaker 3: Roads and stuff outside the huddle.
Speaker 1: You can be creative when nobody knows what the hell
Speaker 1: you getting ready to do. Now everyone else is caught up.
Speaker 1: Everyone else is caught up, and now you have to
Speaker 1: have those boys in there where you can't scheme anybody together.
Speaker 1: You got to be able to line up and say
Speaker 1: you gotta win for me. They just don't have that, right.
Speaker 2: You better have the same smoke for Mahome boy like
Speaker 2: you have for Lamar, and he won the MVP with
Speaker 2: our receivers. I mean, if you look at it, I mean, look,
Speaker 2: I think Mark Andrews was there when Lamar won the
Speaker 2: MVP last year. Travis Kelsey was there with Mahomes when
Speaker 2: he won the MVP. The other years I think he
Speaker 2: had he obviously had Tyreek. I think Sammy Watkins was
Speaker 2: there also the year he won the MVP. But at
Speaker 2: some point in time that catches up with you. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it catches up with you.
Speaker 1: See.
Speaker 2: You know what happened, Ojo is that peoplework had convinced
Speaker 2: themselves that Edelman and Amon Dola and Wes.
Speaker 3: Welker they were just guys. They're not They were really good.
Speaker 2: See now, we based receivers on if you not Tyree,
Speaker 2: or you not aged a Brown, or you not Chase,
Speaker 2: or you not.
Speaker 3: JJ justin Jefferson, you're not any good.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: For that system and for what they need, they weren't good.
Speaker 2: They were great. Welcome was great. I mean you talk,
Speaker 2: I mean go back and look at welcome numbers. What
Speaker 2: he got there, he was getting one hundred and twenty two,
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty five catches.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot.
Speaker 2: Go back and look at Edelman, go back and look
Speaker 2: at Ammon Dola. Those guys were really really good given
Speaker 2: what they were asked to do.
Speaker 3: They were not outside the number of guys they were.
Speaker 2: Everything they did was in the middle of the field
Speaker 2: and you got to take it go ahead.
Speaker 1: That's basically when you think about the makeup of the
Speaker 1: New England offense during those Tom Brady, that Tom Brady era,
Speaker 1: if you think about it, they wanted a few teams
Speaker 1: in the NFL where everything was run from the inside out.
Speaker 1: Yes you think you think about that, everything was run
Speaker 1: from the inside out. So your number one is your
Speaker 1: number one. You read start from here as opposed to
Speaker 1: others where you got dominant rye receivers on the outside
Speaker 1: and you restart from one in your process from there
Speaker 1: on out. But when when it came to them, you know,
Speaker 1: your Amidola's, your Wes Welkers, your Aaron Hernandez, you had
Speaker 1: your grounks where everything went from the inside out as
Speaker 1: opposed to how other teams operated. But go ahead and finish,
Speaker 1: finish a.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so you're absolutely right.
Speaker 2: And what they would do is that then they catch
Speaker 2: you sneaking there like, oh, I'm gonna jump this inside route,
Speaker 2: and now they throw the ball to the outside. Just
Speaker 2: think about when they had Randy. They didn't win the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl with the head Randy.
Speaker 1: Hey, they went undefeated until what thatst that last game.
Speaker 3: Last game against the Giants in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so so that's that's the That's the thing
Speaker 2: is is that just because the guy isn't first team
Speaker 2: All Pro and he's not a perennial Pro Bowl player,
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean that he's not good. We've got to
Speaker 2: stop this note you, But he ain't. He ain't Tyreek.
Speaker 1: Who is? Yeah, nobody, no matter.
Speaker 3: You have to understand.
Speaker 2: Remember it was all finding good when Randy was catching passes.
Speaker 2: The moment Randy started complaining what happened, Ojo.
Speaker 1: Got to go.
Speaker 2: Why so you have to understand what you man, JJ
Speaker 2: and Chase and all those guys. Man, they're not finny
Speaker 2: going those three four games and catch two three passes.
Speaker 2: So coach Belichick understands. He's like, man, look, everybody, everybody
Speaker 2: ain't built for the co What I mean by that,
Speaker 2: everybody's not built to play. Just because you're a football
Speaker 2: player and you're a great one, that doesn't mean you're
Speaker 2: built to play in New England.
Speaker 3: Everybody can't play in New England.
Speaker 2: And unless you've been there, or talk to people like
Speaker 2: I have that have been there, right, then you can
Speaker 2: then you can properly assess and understand that it's more
Speaker 2: than just talent to play in that system. But congratulations
Speaker 2: to the Raiders. The Raiders played. The Raiders did what
Speaker 2: they needed to do. I'm happy for the Raiders because
Speaker 2: I really want Ap to get that job.
Speaker 3: I think we will serve what you mean, I think
Speaker 3: you want him to get it.
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's a it's a no brainer.
Speaker 3: What is management gonna do?
Speaker 1: O Joe.
Speaker 2: We saw the same thing in Carolina with Steve Wilkes
Speaker 2: when he took over for Matt Rule had him playing
Speaker 2: extremely well. He won a bunch of ball games. What's
Speaker 2: Matt Rule left? And the team the players wanted it?
Speaker 2: What did he do? No?
Speaker 3: Was it mattru who got fired? And he came in?
Speaker 3: He came in for Steve Wills and they ended up
Speaker 3: hiring Matt Rule? Who got fired? Was it Matt Rule?
Speaker 3: Matt Rule got fired and Steve Willis build in?
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, and played and the guy and the team
Speaker 2: played well and the players wanted him.
Speaker 3: This is different.
Speaker 1: The players need to divorce their opinion. I'm sure they
Speaker 1: sure they can't. I'm sure they can. Listen, look, look
Speaker 1: what pierces this is. Matt mcdamie's has been fired. They
Speaker 1: be They four and three? They four and three this
Speaker 1: first time the Red the Raiders winning case since week
Speaker 1: five and twenty twenty. So, if you have your players
Speaker 1: responding to a certain coach and plant at a high
Speaker 1: level without a consistent quarterback, a franchise change in quarterback,
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you bring him back? You got a players coach,
Speaker 1: a player that knows the game, that played the game.
Speaker 3: It only makes sense. Who are you going to hire?
Speaker 1: Who are you going to go get that can do
Speaker 1: a better job than what Antonio appears in doing with
Speaker 1: a team that doesn't have an elite quarterback at the helm.
Speaker 2: Remember you remember when they win gave John grew In
Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars for ten years. You remember when
Speaker 2: they just when they just gave a Josh McDaniel all
Speaker 2: that money. Yeah, Okay, the Raiders are a boy splash
Speaker 2: that they always want the name. They probably had more
Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy winners on their roster, that's what That's what
Speaker 2: al Al love Heisman Trophy winners. He loved big names.
Speaker 2: He loved big name coaches. Right, you don't gives a
Speaker 2: ten year deal, hotoe. We never heard of that. Nope
Speaker 2: has ever had a ten year deal. No coach has
Speaker 2: ever had a ten year deal. He gave a guy
Speaker 2: ten years. He just gave Josh McDaniel like seven years.
Speaker 2: So unless than that, they still go into arbitration trying
Speaker 2: to sort this thing out with John Gruden.
Speaker 3: But you might have to pay John Gruden sixty million dollars.
Speaker 2: You got at least sixty million dollars tied up in
Speaker 2: Josh McDaniel.
Speaker 3: Damn like names. He thinks that wins.
Speaker 1: Doesn't.
Speaker 2: But the Patriot Way ain't no Patriot way. The Patriot
Speaker 2: Way was Tom Brady. The Patriot Way only works in
Speaker 2: New England. Look at all the coaches that's from Belichick Tree,
Speaker 2: and it's a lot of them. Tell me the one
Speaker 2: that's won outside of New England. Charlie Wise, Romeo Carnell,
Speaker 2: Bill O'Brien, Josh McDaniels. Josh McDaniel's had two jobs and
Speaker 2: got fired halfway through the second year in both of them,
Speaker 2: one eating in one because he couldn't coach in Denver.
Speaker 3: Yes, he tried to do what they was doing in
Speaker 3: New England.
Speaker 1: Yea, that ain't gonna work.
Speaker 2: No, mostly Nona, You're not Finna. You're not finna target
Speaker 2: my reputation. That ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 3: Right, So.
Speaker 2: Alan Shepard donated fifty dollars. Then you wanted to ask,
Speaker 2: what's up you know eighty five? Speaking of defenses, did
Speaker 2: you see the Raiders pillage? Neither quarterbacks and work on
Speaker 2: the old line. But that defense has been a problem
Speaker 2: since they dropped the Patriot Way. Yeah, the Patriot Way
Speaker 2: doesn't work. He doesn't have he doesn't have See here's
Speaker 2: the thing. Also, coach Belichick has been able to get
Speaker 2: by because you know, oh Joe, once you win, you
Speaker 2: kind of It's kind of like if I own a
Speaker 2: business and i'm you know, the business is doing.
Speaker 3: You know, sometimes the executive talked to.
Speaker 2: The workers a certain type of way, right, and then
Speaker 2: you take it like, well, we are getting nice paychecks
Speaker 2: and we are the top company.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Josh McDaniels thought he could go to Denver. Probably he
Speaker 2: could take that same thing to Oakland. Talk to people
Speaker 2: the mean player, talk down to his coaches, give people
Speaker 2: his butt, the kids. If they know that ain't gonna work, Bro,
Speaker 2: nobody's gonna want to play for you.
Speaker 1: Definitely, not definitely, and it definitely ain'nna work if you
Speaker 1: don't have the quarterback in place. No, that could better
Speaker 1: win slack for the areas that are weak. You had
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff and you got a great quarterback.
Speaker 3: Tom was different.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: We're with forty three, we're forty three thousand in the
Speaker 3: chat O Joe.
Speaker 1: Forty three, forty three thousand people. I love you.
Speaker 3: He let him get it.
Speaker 1: Fifty.
Speaker 2: Call somebody to call a family member, call two family members.
Speaker 3: Of the friend we try to get. Tell them, tell
Speaker 3: them to getting that thing real quick.
Speaker 2: Hey people, I see some of y'all complaining about these ads?
Speaker 3: Bro, how you think we make money?
Speaker 1: Wait what they complain about?
Speaker 2: Somebody were putting ads in the chat? How you think money?
Speaker 2: Just let me ask you a question. Watch the ad?
Speaker 2: Oh look, o jo ojo? How if they need networks
Speaker 2: make money? They don't have come you don't have none
Speaker 2: to stop football? You don't say nothing when they score a
Speaker 2: touchdown or when they get an interception and they cut
Speaker 2: to a commercial bills. Now you got two pole hustlers.
Speaker 2: Oh good, Oh, y're trying to make an honest hustle.
Speaker 2: And y'all about man, y'all putting the ads up? How
Speaker 2: the hell are we supposed to make money?
Speaker 3: Tell I'm just I'm just trying to catch up on
Speaker 3: child sport, man, that's all.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't got our child support, but I need
Speaker 2: a little money. Guys, I'm sorry that we have to
Speaker 2: put ads in here, but that's the only way you
Speaker 2: know it takes.
Speaker 3: You know, Oh, Joe got a staff.
Speaker 2: I gotta staff the volume who I co partnered with,
Speaker 2: They got staffed. They have to cut this stuff up.
Speaker 2: It's doing this stuff with YouTube. Come on, guys. Yeah,
Speaker 2: cut us, cut us some slack stall us out work
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Speaker 1: Work with us.
Speaker 2: See, you can always buy that YouTube premium. They don't
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Speaker 3: Hey you how much YouTube premium costs?
Speaker 1: You think?
Speaker 3: Don't start me to line.
Speaker 2: Hell, I don't even know how much YouTube called let
Speaker 2: alone the premium. You know, premium gas is hot, the
Speaker 2: regular gas, that hot kids gas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, before you finished, you took about gas.
Speaker 3: I'm lost what kind of car you drive?
Speaker 2: I got an EV from BMW, so I'm seventy.
Speaker 3: So premiums like ninety eight?
Speaker 2: Yeah, h A premium is back in the South, we
Speaker 2: call it the hot test gas.
Speaker 3: That white gas. You know, I think it's twenty three obtained.
Speaker 2: It's ninety three obtained, right, ninety three obtained, So you
Speaker 2: know you might have gas. Let's just say you get
Speaker 2: gas that's four point fifty four seventy nine? Is that
Speaker 2: hard tange?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 3: Out here in California, I think it's six dollars a gallon, maybe.
Speaker 2: Six thousand gallon for who if you drive, if you
Speaker 2: drive a premium card, it requires premium lettered yo car.
Speaker 2: That's why I got me a ev and yo, and
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you wonder why I've been driving a small
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Speaker 2: Fifty five miles of Gallon. I mean, it's gonna take
Speaker 2: you two days to get somewhere.
Speaker 1: Nah, what you mean my my uh well, my my
Speaker 1: dometer speed I hit about not get by one hundred,
Speaker 1: one hundred and five.
Speaker 3: Man, you're hitting one hundred and five of that? Yeah,
Speaker 3: not fred Flints.
Speaker 1: Don't Cary, No, don't don't talk about my call like that.
Speaker 1: Don't do that. That's disrespectful. I ain't say nobody said,
Speaker 1: I ain't say nobody to be.
Speaker 2: That Eve though that I think nice. We're Eve saying
Speaker 2: for electric vehicle.
Speaker 1: My bad.
Speaker 2: I guess I should have said electric vehicle, but I
Speaker 2: thought I thought everybody knew what it was.
Speaker 3: Okay, man, you know I ain't in the cars.
Speaker 1: Man, I got my small I got listen, I got
Speaker 1: my little smart car.
Speaker 2: Whatever what I got?
Speaker 3: Oh, Joe, I gotta I gotta e d you.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know what ev is I never heard of that.
Speaker 3: You should have said I have a BMW but it's electric.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, no, it's an electric vehicle.
Speaker 3: I thought you do My bad, dude, I'm not in
Speaker 3: the cause. I apologize.
Speaker 2: I know what YouTube premium is. Fifteen ninety nine a month, man,
Speaker 2: Come on, chat, that's at all of us up?
Speaker 3: Bro, all y'all got to do? Can y'all wife like
Speaker 3: ten fifteen seconds of the half?
Speaker 1: Hold on, we know what we should do. Let's make
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Speaker 1: are the ad.
Speaker 3: Can they do that or no?
Speaker 2: I mean I kind of did that, like in the
Speaker 2: lead and leading up to it, I had to read
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Speaker 3: Okay, I think that as we move.
Speaker 2: Forward, we're gonna I'm gonna we're gonna have I mean,
Speaker 2: if you want to do some read you can, but
Speaker 2: big yeah.
Speaker 3: I know how to.
Speaker 1: I know how to read too, know how to read
Speaker 1: out the prompt. Yeah, oh yeah, real good, I'm real good.
Speaker 1: I'm real good. Okay, I'm real good.
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, but that's uh the chat calling you
Speaker 2: Fred Flintstone. But YouTube premium is fifteen ninety nine a month.
Speaker 2: I don't know how much regular YouTube bills. I don't
Speaker 2: really know anything about that. But that's free.
Speaker 3: It's free. But that's the price that you I mean.
Speaker 2: I mean, guys, all the years that y'all been watching
Speaker 2: sporting events, name the time that the game goes twelve
Speaker 2: minute quarters, twelve minutes and it goes NonStop, don't take
Speaker 2: no time out, and they don't show you no they
Speaker 2: just keep it on the game. In football, any change
Speaker 2: of possession. For the most part, they cut the commercial.
Speaker 1: They got too. They got to pay them bills. You
Speaker 1: got to pay them bills every time.
Speaker 2: I gotta pay Ash, I gotta pay Gjeordan, I gotta
Speaker 2: pay old Shoe, I gotta pay I be damn. Hey,
Speaker 2: y'all want me to y'all want me to pay the
Speaker 2: money out of my pocket.
Speaker 1: Hey, But speaking speaking of pan you finish. I'm finna
Speaker 1: act a fool on my birthday. We're your birthday. My
Speaker 1: birthday is January ninth, and I'm finna. I'm finna do
Speaker 1: a little do something a little different that I never
Speaker 1: never done before.
Speaker 3: And I'm just thanking you ahead of time because what you.
Speaker 1: Make it, but what you have been able to stow
Speaker 1: upon me and allow my cup to run it over.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead, Hey, I'm gonna go ahead and
Speaker 1: bless myself and act act a fool on my birthday.
Speaker 1: You go buy yourself something. You just gonna have a
Speaker 1: par Yeah. No, I'm gonna buy myself something. I'm gonna get.
Speaker 3: Tell you, I can't tell you get. I can't tell you,
Speaker 3: but I'm I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Cut up because you know you you You've been a
Speaker 1: blessing to me, and I thank you. So I'm I'm
Speaker 1: gona get. I'm gonna go outside in my box for
Speaker 1: a little bit.
Speaker 2: Ain't nothing wrong with that, Hey, bro, this has been
Speaker 2: a blessing for both of us. I couldn't have done
Speaker 2: it without you.
Speaker 1: It works.
Speaker 2: It works because of who you are. It works because
Speaker 2: of who I am. We're different in a lot of ways,
Speaker 2: in a lot of ways that were similar. So I
Speaker 2: appreciate you being a part of this, and I appreciate
Speaker 2: the fans for embracing us and giving us the opportunity
Speaker 2: to share some of the stories and some of our
Speaker 2: analysis on three nights a week, the Giants. The Eagles
Speaker 2: beat the Giants thirty three twenty five Tommy DeVito was
Speaker 2: replaced by Tyrod Taylor.
Speaker 3: In the third quarter.
Speaker 2: Giants entered the half trading twenty to three, and Tyrod
Speaker 2: nearly brought them back back. Nearly brought the Giants all
Speaker 2: the way back after talking one hundred and thirty three
Speaker 2: yards and a touchdown. The Eagles intercepted his final pass,
Speaker 2: final pass attempt into the end zone, and the Eagles
Speaker 2: were able to hang on to a victory. I like Tyrod.
Speaker 2: I mean ty Rodd was a starting quarterback. He took
Speaker 2: Buffalo to the playoffs. They lost the hardball game in
Speaker 2: the playoffs too. I think it was a nine to
Speaker 2: six ball game or ten six ball game to Jacksonville
Speaker 2: the year Jacksonville almost beat New England in New England.
Speaker 2: So he's always been a very good back up.
Speaker 1: He was.
Speaker 2: He was a backup Joe Flacco in Baltimore the year
Speaker 2: they won the Super Bowl in twenty twelve, if I'm
Speaker 2: not mistaken. So uh, I've always had a lot of
Speaker 2: a lot of respecting the admiration for ty Rod. And
Speaker 2: he's a uh you know, he had got bad luck
Speaker 2: because he was pagged to be the starting quarterback for
Speaker 2: the Chargers.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh, he had a real injury against an injection and
Speaker 2: the punctured his lung.
Speaker 1: Lung. Doctor he ship three, you can't suit for that. Huh,
Speaker 1: yeah you can't. That's math practice. Yeah he probably did there,
Speaker 1: you can't suit you.
Speaker 2: Say he did?
Speaker 3: Yes, damn cost him a starting job.
Speaker 2: And had potentially caught him because he was he was
Speaker 2: he was a free agent, so it had pretty potentially
Speaker 2: cost him greater earnings.
Speaker 3: Right right, We won't get it. We won't get it that.
Speaker 2: Okay, Joe, you kind of redeem yourself. I remember you
Speaker 2: did say all that about Lamar.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 2: I hate to admit it. Thank you, sir, Thank you.
Speaker 2: You're one of the ones that will admit it. All
Speaker 2: the other ones they won't admit it even though they
Speaker 2: know I said it, because they got a narrative going.
Speaker 2: And so we want to keep the narrative that Shannon
Speaker 2: Hayes Lamar when all y'all seen me stand up, y'all
Speaker 2: remember when Colin Kaepernick, y'all, remember when George Floyd, when
Speaker 2: everybody else, when everybody else was shining away from it,
Speaker 2: how skipped in FS one.
Speaker 3: Let me stand on that plan for me talk about it.
Speaker 3: Y'all forgot about that hard.
Speaker 2: But now all of a sudden, after I spoke so
Speaker 2: outgoing about it, y'all, all of a sudden, I'm against
Speaker 2: my own people, really really, So that's that's that's what.
Speaker 3: Y'all want to get going.
Speaker 2: Wow, of all the things y'all can say, I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's some things out there that you can say.
Speaker 3: Oh man, he talked out on. He makes me sick.
Speaker 3: He make he knows everything. I told you. I don't
Speaker 3: know everything.
Speaker 2: I know a little bit about everything that's different, Like,
Speaker 2: come on, but you know I'm gonna be okay though.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 2: He asked another question, Dan d actually unbelievab. We're at
Speaker 2: this point. People make things up. Unk is always one
Speaker 2: who says pretty is an elite? I said that. The
Speaker 2: d O d O tried to he oh, he's elite.
Speaker 2: Has a quarterback? And this is what he said. Has
Speaker 2: a quarterback ever won the MVP? Not being elite? I said, uh, yeah,
Speaker 2: Rich Gannon won the MVP.
Speaker 1: Was he elite?
Speaker 3: No, there's another one. Matt Ryan was the MVP. Was
Speaker 3: he elite?
Speaker 2: Brian Syke won the MVP for the Bengals. The Cardiac Kids. No,
Speaker 2: Ken Anderson No, so just because you win the MVP,
Speaker 2: that doesn't make you elite. We need to see a
Speaker 2: body of work. It's a body of work that makes
Speaker 2: you elite. So this notetion. We seen a lot of
Speaker 2: guys great receiver have one great year or running back
Speaker 2: or dB and then what so, No, one season doesn't
Speaker 2: make you a leak. I'm a firm believer in that.
Speaker 2: I'm must stand on that. So I'm not saying brock
Speaker 2: Pretty isn't a good player. I didn't even say that
Speaker 2: he couldn't become E league. I'm saying, as I'm giving
Speaker 2: you my analysis of it, he's not a league.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean the body of work is what comes
Speaker 1: in the play. When we talk about elite players regardless
Speaker 1: of position, I'm gonna go for the owners of talking
Speaker 1: about receivers. Receivers are elite. You can do it your
Speaker 1: first year, but can you do it when they know
Speaker 1: it's coming?
Speaker 3: Can you do it year two? Can you do it
Speaker 3: the third year? Can you do it when a game
Speaker 3: planning to stop you and you still get it going?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Like that's when you know you elite? Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes, When when the deef coordinator get up there and
Speaker 2: they break it down and they circle. Now we got
Speaker 2: to watch eighty five now right right, he's great in transition.
Speaker 2: He can get in and out of breaks. Yes, then
Speaker 2: just run after the catch. Now, he ain't gonna block
Speaker 2: that much bag, so you don't trying to rough him
Speaker 2: up in the blocking game, in the running game and
Speaker 2: try to push him into the power. But you know
Speaker 2: when we when you explaining a receiver, you explained it. Okay,
Speaker 2: he'll go over the middle. He's tough, yeah, Winery, He's
Speaker 2: not the most physically gifted.
Speaker 3: Guy, but he will cat. He's tough in traffic.
Speaker 2: He's tremendous transitioning, getting in and out of break is
Speaker 2: what his specialty is. He has great hands and he's
Speaker 2: tremendous run out of the catch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got less scoo than him.
Speaker 3: Now he gottah.
Speaker 2: So that that's that. I mean that that's how we
Speaker 2: look at it, the same thing we look at a dB. Okay,
Speaker 2: he's very handsy. We can get I mean, you know, hey,
Speaker 2: he's strong, he's long arm. He's gonna try to ride you.
Speaker 2: So you're gonna have to you know, we're gonna start,
Speaker 2: We're gonna throw some balls at him.
Speaker 3: Were gonna double movie because he will bite. He aggressive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if somebody like, oh he wants to sit
Speaker 2: on routes, Okay, we're gonna say this is not about
Speaker 2: We don't care if we catch it.
Speaker 3: We just want to know. We will throw this over
Speaker 3: your head. Yeah yeah, we just want to play at
Speaker 3: that seed right in his mind. Make you think twice
Speaker 3: about sitting next time. Yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: T J the stunt said, ma'am, I got I got
Speaker 2: my I got my uncle that lapotier from Christmas. He
Speaker 2: took one stelf and now he's stepping in in the
Speaker 2: name of love all day. Step I ain't gonna think
Speaker 2: you but okay, hey, TJ, I really appreciate it, man,
Speaker 2: thank you for the support. Uh, miss mister Sharp said,
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, my incredible wife got me eighty five cigar
Speaker 2: gift card. Should I get the boy theta of the
Speaker 2: l patron to go with my lapotier Kangyac for New Years?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Get that boy beat Get that boy beater, man.
Speaker 1: It represents obviously the good life.
Speaker 3: For a reason.
Speaker 1: Uh. When you when you when you smoke it, you
Speaker 1: gonna enjoy it is very smooth if you if you're
Speaker 1: not an experienced cigar smoker, obviously, it's it's for the novice. Uh, smooth,
Speaker 1: not too straight, No novice. I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. You got you got me on my.
Speaker 3: You've been dragging tonight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just my little red boy real quick. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to stay up. I got I gotta fight it. I
Speaker 1: gotta fight at five am, so I'm trying to make
Speaker 1: sure I stay up. Okay, it's not too spicy, it's
Speaker 1: not too peppery. Is very smooth if you're not a
Speaker 1: kind of sore of cigars. So you're gonna enjoy it.
Speaker 1: Enjoy it being said, will you give Baker any praise?
Speaker 2: Thirty five hundred plus yards, twenty six s, touchdown, eight interceptions,
Speaker 2: ninety six point two QBR. Baker Mayfield has played really well.
Speaker 2: I think Baker needs to be the starting quarterback moving
Speaker 2: forward for the Tampa Bay.
Speaker 3: Buccaneers long term, long term deal.
Speaker 2: He has a great connection. Now, I don't know what's
Speaker 2: gonna happen with Mike Evans. Mike Evans was very frustrated
Speaker 2: because he wanted a long term deal at the beginning
Speaker 2: of the season.
Speaker 3: It didn't get worked out. You know how they play
Speaker 3: games now, everything they having the best.
Speaker 2: Mike Embers might be having the best career of it,
Speaker 2: his best season of his career, and he couldn't pick
Speaker 2: the better time to have it. But to think, oh, Joe,
Speaker 2: you know how I get you started to getting to
Speaker 2: be thirty. They think you can't play no more.
Speaker 1: They're gonna play with you every time. They gonna play
Speaker 1: with you every time. Listen, that's the nature of the business.
Speaker 1: Not only are they gonna play with you when you
Speaker 1: get thirty, you know what they also do They also
Speaker 1: find a way to work you out the system. The opportunities,
Speaker 1: for some reason, are all of a sudden you hit thirty,
Speaker 1: the opportunity start to decrease.
Speaker 3: But what the hell is going on? I was a
Speaker 3: focal point of offense.
Speaker 1: Now if you look at across the league for years
Speaker 1: of all the great receivers that have never gotten hurt,
Speaker 1: just notice how they the the opportunities decrease and the
Speaker 1: first thing they come and say to you at the
Speaker 1: end of the season where you know, uh, your production
Speaker 1: is started starting not to look the same. It seemed
Speaker 1: like you lost a step. The targets to targets did
Speaker 1: come exactly and they do it every time.
Speaker 3: But this way they do to yo jo.
Speaker 1: They said, you know.
Speaker 2: You're kind of getting a little older, and uh, you're
Speaker 2: not making the plays you once did. Uh, we were
Speaker 2: thinking about reducing your salary. I said, Oh, but y'all
Speaker 2: want to reduce my salary. But y'all want me to.
Speaker 1: Make the plays like I did when.
Speaker 3: Y'all playing me a lot of money. Now you make it.
Speaker 3: Go make this oyo.
Speaker 2: So you're gonna cut my pay, but I need you
Speaker 2: to make them same plays.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, listen, hey, but the business is a dirty game.
Speaker 1: Now it's a dirty game, and they they love to
Speaker 1: play it, and they play it very well. And how
Speaker 1: you think they Listen, If you don't understand the game
Speaker 1: they have, you think it's something wrong with you.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I man. I had a allboy.
Speaker 2: He told hey, they wouldn't give me he would they
Speaker 2: wouldn't give him a contract. Instinct, he say, for what
Speaker 2: y'all paying me, I'm gonna get you all that. That's
Speaker 2: the kind of work I'm gonna give you. Oh they
Speaker 2: end up trading it. Yeah, they got you. He said,
Speaker 2: y'all pay He said, y'all pay me five hundred thousand.
Speaker 2: I make five hundred thousand worth of plays. I don't
Speaker 2: give y'all know million dollars? What the players where? Y'all
Speaker 2: give me a half familion, Shannon, The thing that makes
Speaker 2: Raven fans upset is the fact that when Lamar plays
Speaker 2: great analysts Dell, What does analysts say me? What makes
Speaker 2: you upset with me? I'm me, I'm Shanning Sharp. There
Speaker 2: are probably a lot of other analysts that analyze. But
Speaker 2: when you say other analysts talk to them, I ain't
Speaker 2: got no problem if I said something, if I misspoke,
Speaker 2: I'll own up to that. Y'all know me by now
Speaker 2: when I'm wrong, I ain't got no problem. I've never
Speaker 2: been too big, I've never been too prideful. I've never
Speaker 2: been too great to say I'm sorry I was wrong.
Speaker 2: But y'all got to miss me with other analysts. What
Speaker 2: did I say? If it's something that I said that
Speaker 2: I misspoke, I was wrong about Okay, I can live
Speaker 2: with that, especially when you said the Ravens aren't getting
Speaker 2: the money's worth.
Speaker 3: You thought they was getting the money.
Speaker 2: Listen, when we ask a question, you do realize it's
Speaker 2: on a game to game basis, So so you think
Speaker 2: party based on tonight, you think party should get a
Speaker 2: forty million dollar contract, cause you just if you just
Speaker 2: looking at it like that. Okay, fine, we take a
Speaker 2: game to game. Right, Lamar is playing. They won nine
Speaker 2: out of ten of their first six games. How many
Speaker 2: did they went out of their first six? I mean
Speaker 2: that's and the thing that you have to look at, Ojoe,
Speaker 2: is that when Lamar didn't play well against the Steelers, Right,
Speaker 2: it was the first six when when he didn't play
Speaker 2: well against the Steelers, they lost the game. He had
Speaker 2: a fumble, he threw picking the end zone. I said,
Speaker 2: Lamar threw a picking the end zone. He fumbled the ball.
Speaker 2: They had a lead. Oh why why you didn't say
Speaker 2: that about Mahomes because Mahomes didn't do that. You see,
Speaker 2: it's always it's always like when you critique at one player,
Speaker 2: well what.
Speaker 3: About that player?
Speaker 2: Okay, when that is my time to critique because you
Speaker 2: do realize, like, oh, Cho and I like, when we
Speaker 2: come on here, we could talk about whatever we want to.
Speaker 2: But when I go on ESPN, I'll talk about what
Speaker 2: we talk about. That's not my show. This is our show.
Speaker 2: This is uncan Ojoe's show, So we get to talk
Speaker 2: about it. But if I talk about it, and I
Speaker 2: don't say what you want me to say, or you
Speaker 2: don't like what I say, then I'm a hater. Well,
Speaker 2: I'm sure at some point in time that people thought
Speaker 2: I hated on Peyton. They thought I hated on Rogers,
Speaker 2: they thought I hated on Brady. They don't thought I
Speaker 2: hated on everybody.
Speaker 1: Wait?
Speaker 3: Did you say anything bad about me when I played?
Speaker 3: I'm sure I did. I can't remember.
Speaker 1: Oh, Joe, you got rich old chat y'all. Look chat
Speaker 1: y'all looked at old chat. Let me know, let me
Speaker 1: know if I'm saying something so we could address that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I probably said something about the pilloy you was getting
Speaker 2: for a celebration.
Speaker 3: Oh I didn't. That was worthy, that was worthy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh Joe. You got to realize, man, you've been retired.
Speaker 2: You've been retired of decade.
Speaker 1: Bro, I ain't been retired. What you talking about? No,
Speaker 1: I haven't when you were your last game.
Speaker 3: Twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2: Uh, somebody tell him that's a decade fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty,
Speaker 2: twenty one, twenty two, twenty three.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just planned listen, I've been retired.
Speaker 2: What twelve twelve thirty the last time you played with
Speaker 2: twenty twelve, which is twelve years it was.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: For Yeah, I didn't feel like I feel like I
Speaker 2: don't know what it feels like.
Speaker 3: I'm just telling you what it is.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying how I feel. It feels like I
Speaker 1: just played. If it feels like I'm not too far
Speaker 1: removed from the game, you are, you are.
Speaker 3: They don't feel like it though, I can still play
Speaker 3: the high Like.
Speaker 2: Creation one said, does two have a chance to win
Speaker 2: it for the MVP if he beats Lamar Jackson and
Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens on the road next week and get
Speaker 2: the number one seed?
Speaker 1: That's a that's a that's a good question. That's a
Speaker 1: great question, especially with the way Lamar looks against the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. What happened if two and that offense
Speaker 1: comes in and does what the forty nine ers couldn't
Speaker 1: do offensively? Well, you said, that's all.
Speaker 2: We ain't no way Lamar Jackson gonna look like Rock
Speaker 2: Perdy did tonight. So that's a mood point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. I mean, that's why that's why I
Speaker 1: didn't say. That's why I didn't say Lamar Jackson have
Speaker 1: a game like that. That's why I said, if the offense,
Speaker 1: if thet the the Dolphins offense can do what.
Speaker 3: Rock Perty didn't do.
Speaker 2: Again, Well, first of all, they're not gonna get that
Speaker 2: opportunity to with without those turnovers. Yeah, yeah, you have
Speaker 2: to you have to fact that, you have to factor
Speaker 2: that is also but uh, the Raiders get to win
Speaker 2: today on the road. Uh, the Ravens get to win
Speaker 2: on the road. The Eagles were the only home team
Speaker 2: that won on Christmas Day. All the other all the
Speaker 2: other home teams tasted defeat. Uh. Patrick Wooler Woolly Willy said,
Speaker 2: unconnote your merry Christmas a day one, Thank you, Patrick.
Speaker 2: Not as are one to three against the AFC North
Speaker 2: this year. What's in the war in that division? Said,
Speaker 2: y'all both played there. And what's disrespectful with the title
Speaker 2: game manager? Because people, let me take the first question.
Speaker 2: Let me take that last part first, because when people
Speaker 2: say game manager, it's almost like they're saying they're winning
Speaker 2: in spite of you. That you're not asked do anything.
Speaker 2: You just man not much. It's kind of like you
Speaker 2: a game manager. It's almost like a manager. You ain't
Speaker 2: pitching you ain't hitting, you ain't catching the ball, so
Speaker 2: what so what are you actually doing? So they say
Speaker 2: in the quarterback, you're doing you're you're you're limited in
Speaker 2: what you're asked to do. And so I'm sure the quarterbacks,
Speaker 2: the guys that get called game manager, they view it
Speaker 2: as disrespectful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely so. So so when they call Alex Sabeth
Speaker 1: the game manager when he played with the Chiefs, do
Speaker 1: you think that was disrespectful they.
Speaker 2: Called him that, Yes, Look I called him check down Alex.
Speaker 2: Because about think about it. Think about it, old Joe.
Speaker 2: Think about the numbers that they were putting up and
Speaker 2: they still moved heaven and Earth.
Speaker 3: They traded up seventeen.
Speaker 2: Spots to get Patrick mahone right, right, because Andy believe
Speaker 2: this offense could go to another level if they had
Speaker 2: a guy with a stronger arm and that was willing
Speaker 2: to take risks. And we see, like I said, Travis
Speaker 2: Kelson was getting a thousand yards of season, Tyreek was Tyreek.
Speaker 2: Now Tyreek laid up aloft, blossomed and became a true
Speaker 2: wide receiver and not a gadget guy because he could
Speaker 2: run the entire route treat So that's the difference. And
Speaker 2: it's like so they view it as as uh, it's
Speaker 2: kind of like a wide receiver. What did they call
Speaker 2: most white guys they call possession bro.
Speaker 3: Receiver?
Speaker 1: Whoa whoa?
Speaker 2: Well, Steve Larger was a possession receiver and he retired
Speaker 2: with the most catches in the most yards at the
Speaker 2: time in the NFL history.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: So uh, but you said, uh, I don't know, it's
Speaker 2: not it's nothing in the water.
Speaker 3: It's nothing in the water.
Speaker 2: The AFC North is a physical team. You look at
Speaker 2: the turnovers. Brock Perty had three, didn't he have like
Speaker 2: two or three against Cleveland? He had a couple, if
Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, he had a couple against Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Turn them all over.
Speaker 3: I don't care.
Speaker 2: I don't care how great you are, because I've said
Speaker 2: it before. When you turn them if you are a
Speaker 2: better football team, if you're here and teams be's here,
Speaker 2: you turn the ball over. Whether you go down or
Speaker 2: you raise them up, you bring them on your level.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe.
Speaker 2: So now, and the more you turn it over, the
Speaker 2: more you go and look at the separation. You see
Speaker 2: where that goes. And that's and that's what happened. And
Speaker 2: now you look see when you played Cleveland, you know
Speaker 2: you missed the field goal that would I think won
Speaker 2: the game or even tied the game. You turn them
Speaker 2: all over against the Ravens are far a team, that's all.
Speaker 2: But that's basically on your level. You look like you
Speaker 2: look tonight. They run away with the game. That's that's
Speaker 2: the difference. What's your takaway? What you think happened to
Speaker 2: the AFC North while they won and three against the
Speaker 2: AFC North?
Speaker 3: And why do quarterbacks view game manager as disrespectful?
Speaker 1: Well, I think just like you said, when you are
Speaker 1: a game management at the quarterback position, I heard Cam
Speaker 1: actually say that too. It is they don't ask much
Speaker 1: of you. They don't ask you to do much. They
Speaker 1: asked you to facilitate the ball, to take what they
Speaker 1: asked you not to, not to take the chances that
Speaker 1: that most would take where they allow you depending on
Speaker 1: your skill set and your talent level in your in
Speaker 1: your in your arm your arm talent. Uh, then those
Speaker 1: are players that they asked to take those chances. You know,
Speaker 1: I think those are the game management Game managers are
Speaker 1: not minimized, but their skill set is not up to
Speaker 1: par as opposed to those who have the arm talent
Speaker 1: to do more offensively. I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't really.
Speaker 1: I don't really see it as a disrespectful thing, because
Speaker 1: if you're a game manager, you're just not losing the
Speaker 1: game or making the mistakes that other other other quarterbacks make.
Speaker 1: And you give you, you always have you, you always
Speaker 1: give your team. How is that a bad I don't
Speaker 1: see what they're saying.
Speaker 2: Don't you the game up, because we're not going to
Speaker 2: put you in the situation where we allow you to
Speaker 2: take risks. So don't you take risks on your own.
Speaker 2: We're gonna run the football. We're gonna make it real
Speaker 2: easy for you. Okay, we're gonna call this coverage. We're
Speaker 2: gonna call this play. We think it's gonna be discoverage.
Speaker 2: You go there with the football. Oh like Pat, you man,
Speaker 2: You're like, okay, okay, Pat, go.
Speaker 1: Do what you do.
Speaker 3: Ok Okay, Brady go do what you do.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Pay Well, you know, Peyton calling his own his own
Speaker 2: game anyway. So guys like that, Joe Burrow, guys like
Speaker 2: that that. You're like, okay, but there are times that
Speaker 2: you need to manage the game. Even the greats have
Speaker 2: been game managers at one point in time.
Speaker 1: Or nothing, and that's what. But it's knowing when to
Speaker 1: do it. It's knowing when.
Speaker 2: To do it. Oh, this is the type of game. Oh,
Speaker 2: I see what type of game this is gonna be.
Speaker 2: This is a game that could possibly be fourteen thirteen
Speaker 2: thirteen ten. I can't take the unnecessary risk. I can't
Speaker 2: put our defense and harm's way. It's knowing. So I
Speaker 2: agree with you. Faith donated two hundred dollars Hi O O,
Speaker 2: Joe and Shamnon and rant Man by two hundred, she
Speaker 2: says by twenty twenty. By twenty fifty three, the net
Speaker 2: worth of African Americans is predicted to be addicted to
Speaker 2: be zero. Damn, there's angst in the chat over donation.
Speaker 2: Like subs and shares are are just as crucial. Night
Speaker 2: Cap accepts all support. So don't count my coins and
Speaker 2: count your blessings. Let's win together, shout out ass Man.
Speaker 2: By twenty fifty three, I think, HULLO, I think I
Speaker 2: saw somewhere. You can look this up, ass that I saw.
Speaker 2: The average black networth is seventeen thousand, while the average
Speaker 2: white networth is one hundred and seventy one thousand.
Speaker 1: Hm, you think that's true. And when they do the
Speaker 1: when they do these statistics, how many people do they
Speaker 1: how do they even do these statistics?
Speaker 3: Anyway?
Speaker 1: So I always thought that what does the theory come from?
Speaker 2: And sometimes they're surveys, sometimes they're questionnaires, they're brochures that
Speaker 2: get the census.
Speaker 1: Hey, think about think about this when it comes to
Speaker 1: surveys and brochures and all that stuff. When the last
Speaker 1: time somebody coming to you with a survey and you
Speaker 1: actually sat there.
Speaker 2: I don't fill it out, o yo, But you know
Speaker 2: exactly that's why our you know ours know how much
Speaker 2: you make?
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh you really think you really think it comes from
Speaker 3: the irs?
Speaker 2: And would you Hey, look here, I don't trust nobody,
Speaker 2: all right, you right? Average black household forty four thy
Speaker 2: nine hundred, average white to eighty five?
Speaker 1: Yeah huh? Is that really the difference?
Speaker 3: Asian is five thirty six?
Speaker 2: So you got black at forty four nine, white two
Speaker 2: thirty six, Asian.
Speaker 3: Five thirty five.
Speaker 2: I wonder why that is because a lot of times
Speaker 2: those two other demographics they come up with, they come
Speaker 2: and have ideas and create things that make money.
Speaker 3: Black people spend money.
Speaker 2: Oh, somebody created that Louis Briton that the black person buys,
Speaker 2: but he ain't got no money to put in it.
Speaker 2: He or she doesn't have money to put in it.
Speaker 2: You see the difference. Come on, now, each his own.
Speaker 2: That's that's that's that's a whole discussion. That's a whole
Speaker 2: other discussion. Mark, Hispanic is sixty one, So we're the
Speaker 2: lowest forty four nine sixty one for Hispanic two which
Speaker 2: you say, two eighty five for white, five thirty five
Speaker 2: for Asian.
Speaker 1: That's I mean, well, I'm not gonna say that because
Speaker 1: obviously me being the finance.
Speaker 2: Measure question, I am we on social media that who
Speaker 2: on social media flashing the big old files of money?
Speaker 3: Who got the money? Held up to the here.
Speaker 1: The rappers.
Speaker 3: Who pretending they're getting on Who the who pretending they're
Speaker 3: getting on the jets?
Speaker 2: I ain't telling you that's your I don't tell anybody
Speaker 2: how to spend their money. You earn it, you do
Speaker 2: with it as you choose. Because have I flown private jet? Yes,
Speaker 2: I ain't got no money with you. I ain't got
Speaker 2: no mondy, but I will work my ass. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: get it if it's out there. I saw listen. Once
Speaker 2: I saw the US government print money during the pandemic. Okay,
Speaker 2: so y'all got a surplus of it, because if you
Speaker 2: don't have enough, that's what your friends some more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's it's out there?
Speaker 1: Is that there.
Speaker 2: Let me find my niche, let me find Let me
Speaker 2: find something that I can do that I can make
Speaker 2: money from.
Speaker 3: Legally, it's enough for everybody.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, And I'm willing to work and put the
Speaker 2: for the end. That's what I'm willing to do. Ugin
Speaker 2: on your Merry Christmas. Love the show. I'm curious to
Speaker 2: know which training camp was the most challenging to adjust
Speaker 2: to college of the NFL.
Speaker 3: Man the NFL is that they just put so much
Speaker 3: on your plane. It's just like and and you gotta
Speaker 3: get it.
Speaker 2: Because when once we go install, ain't no ay, you
Speaker 2: go install Monday, install Tuesday, install Wednesday, install Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
Speaker 2: Sunday before you go back to Monday. So if you
Speaker 2: don't get Monday, we on a Tuesday. If you didn't
Speaker 2: get Tuesday, now you're behind on Monday and Tuesday we
Speaker 2: on the Wednesday.
Speaker 3: So it's more of a mental game.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: In college, the three hour practices you young too, you young.
Speaker 2: I don't know what to color. I mean, you think
Speaker 2: about it. I went to college down there forty years ago,
Speaker 2: but the playbook, the playbook wasn't as as complex and
Speaker 2: complicated like it is now. I mean, I'm sure some
Speaker 2: of these college lay books UH is off the charts.
Speaker 2: But you know, we was out there practicing doing UH
Speaker 2: training camp in college. We was out there probably about
Speaker 2: six hours a day. Thud, Well, ain't no food. We
Speaker 2: were tackling. We were tackling. And even in the NFL
Speaker 2: early on, I mean we tackled. We put people on
Speaker 2: the ground. There wasn't no oh just wrap him up,
Speaker 2: put his ands on the dirt.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And so I think that for me, O Joe, the
Speaker 2: NFL is more is more of a mental because man,
Speaker 2: they own you.
Speaker 3: Mistakes. Mistakes cost people jobs because I mean you not you.
Speaker 1: Especially during especially during training, people get cut and during
Speaker 1: training camp people get cut. They cutting you.
Speaker 2: Ain't no getting Look if I'm on scholarship, they got
Speaker 2: to keep it for at least one year.
Speaker 3: They are working the NFL. They don't have to keep
Speaker 3: you now.
Speaker 2: And I had to coach, coach used to say that
Speaker 2: this ain't college son, we don't have to keep you.
Speaker 3: Oh you don't.
Speaker 1: No, No, we don't.
Speaker 3: So you understand.
Speaker 2: You understand very early on that the NFL is an
Speaker 2: absolute business and they're gonna keep the players that they
Speaker 2: think can help them win or in the future, like
Speaker 2: you know what, with a little season. I think this,
Speaker 2: I think this kid could be good. I believe that.
Speaker 2: I believe out you. I believe That's why they kept me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I play. I was well so I could play all
Speaker 2: the special teams. I was a very good blocker because
Speaker 2: I was big, big wife deceiver. But you know Dan,
Speaker 2: I mean Dan Reeve's coach reed rested. So he told me,
Speaker 2: he said, son, you too big, too fast, too strong
Speaker 2: not to make a living in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: So kept me around. Hey I'm playing, Oh Joe, we
Speaker 2: playing some wide receiver. Hey, I'm Tim Brown, I'm I'm
Speaker 2: I'm Hey, I want to go where the ball going?
Speaker 3: Well, Hey, when your scout team scout te.
Speaker 2: Oho, you know they hold that thing up, they say, hey,
Speaker 2: you see that right there, that's you.
Speaker 3: Hey, let me get that jersey. Let me get that jersey.
Speaker 3: You don't know what to do. Let me get that jersey.
Speaker 1: Let me get that jersey, taking out taking all the
Speaker 1: scout team tight end.
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm gonna tight end.
Speaker 2: And they got a tight end like a jayon nova
Speaker 2: check h a starving Mary Cook used to play for
Speaker 2: the New England Patriots.
Speaker 3: But the day at a tight end. I'm cooking, Oh Joe,
Speaker 3: I'm cooking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and and and Wade, the defensive coordinator, said,
Speaker 2: don't worry about it. They tight end can't move like that.
Speaker 2: He won't be open like that. I'm cooking though, right,
Speaker 2: I'm cooking, so wave he blow the whistle, he said, dang,
Speaker 2: put his ass in the game and see if they
Speaker 2: can cover him, because we can't.
Speaker 3: Right next week they move to tight end.
Speaker 2: I'm in the game. I ain't looked back. Ain't look back,
Speaker 2: o Joe. But I would cut. I would cook it.
Speaker 2: I would cook it at the Oh, Joey, I get too.
Speaker 1: Can't check be, can't check b Yeah, yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 3: Oh they take a chief shot said, oh cuz I'm talking.
Speaker 3: I'm talking to Joe. Oh, I'm.
Speaker 2: Spiking the ball, putting the ball in the woods man.
Speaker 2: Hey man, man, I know Mike would, but then you
Speaker 2: know Dad, that didn't really carry He's like, okay, okay,
Speaker 2: that's that's that's enough. I said, Nah, I mean coach,
Speaker 2: Look I ain't talking to me. Yeah, I remembered everyone
Speaker 2: because oh they would count like blocking, because oh Joe,
Speaker 2: at that point in time, I'm probably like two fifteen.
Speaker 2: I would have lost twelve pound because I was like
Speaker 2: two twenty seven. So now I'm two fifteen, playing tight
Speaker 2: end in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Feeling good, feeling good.
Speaker 2: But oh Joe, man, they throw me like a rag
Speaker 2: dolly they. I said, okay, guess what happened? Come one
Speaker 2: on one? I said, Now, who wants some of this smoke?
Speaker 3: Who want this now?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Right right, right right? Get out of there.
Speaker 2: Touchdown, hold the ball up. I got the ball back.
Speaker 2: In their faith, they reach it for it. Oh Joe,
Speaker 2: I was a stone cold food with it. Oh I
Speaker 2: had to get him back. Michael nine, two one one
Speaker 2: six is harder task in your prime. Stop a Ronaldo
Speaker 2: Messi from scoring a penalty kick, stop at m J
Speaker 2: from scoring a basket, tackling Barry Sanders, or getting a
Speaker 2: hit off Randony Johnson.
Speaker 3: First of all, hey.
Speaker 1: That's that's a good Listen. Difficult, difficult feats to dude.
Speaker 2: Name the person that you ever saw tackle Barry one
Speaker 2: on one.
Speaker 1: Nobody said that that was that was gonna be my
Speaker 1: ass anyway.
Speaker 3: Uh uh, that was gonna be my ass anyway.
Speaker 2: You're not stopping no in the open field. You got
Speaker 2: no chance. You couldn't tackle a man on the phone boot.
Speaker 2: How the hell would do in the middle of the field.
Speaker 3: You think, I ain't never.
Speaker 1: I ain't never seen nobody come to balance like that
Speaker 1: and get up and get.
Speaker 2: Rad get a hit off Randy Johnson ninety five mile
Speaker 2: hours slider.
Speaker 3: That's not happening either.
Speaker 2: You're not tackling Barry in the open field, stopping the
Speaker 2: m J from scoring a bucket.
Speaker 3: Well, he might miss the bucket.
Speaker 2: He might miss I mean, he might miss it, but
Speaker 2: oh Joe, Randy Johnson six foot ten and a half.
Speaker 2: Now he left it. So that ball you ain't hitting that?
Speaker 2: How many people we got to think about it? Professional
Speaker 2: hitters ain't hitting it.
Speaker 3: Don't even hit that.
Speaker 2: And first of all, that ball that by the time
Speaker 2: you swing the bat, that the catcher throwing it back
Speaker 2: to the picture on your here, pop swing, bro, that's
Speaker 2: in the glove. Honestly, I probably say I probably.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's tough. A lot.
Speaker 2: I've talked to a lot of guys that played Broke.
Speaker 2: I talked the prime, I talked the ball. Brian Jordan,
Speaker 2: they say, the hardest thing to do Now, Brian Jordan
Speaker 2: played safety baseball baseball.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, most definitely, most definitely. Do you know the
Speaker 1: percentage the percentage for sluggers or Hall of famers that
Speaker 1: have made it into the into the Baseball Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: How low the percentage is?
Speaker 3: You know how hard it is? You don't hard to
Speaker 3: hear the baseball.
Speaker 2: Just imagine if you caught three out of ten passes
Speaker 2: that they threw to you, they throw somebody to lead.
Speaker 2: If you made three of the ten shots. I ain't
Speaker 2: talking about three three, I'm talking about regular shots. They
Speaker 2: get your ass somebody to leave. If you hit the
Speaker 2: baseball three out of ten times, you go into the
Speaker 2: Hall of.
Speaker 3: Fame, Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 3: I put it in context for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's crazy, because any any any other sport,
Speaker 1: three or ten, you're gonna be at home on the couch.
Speaker 2: Luca had a fifty piece in the MAVs win Man Lucas.
Speaker 1: Hey, how come I know? I don't I don't watch
Speaker 1: basketball much, but how can it look like he'd be
Speaker 1: moving in slow motion and still be.
Speaker 3: Because he won't let you speed him up.
Speaker 1: He kind of like his move His moves are very
Speaker 1: hurk Jerry, Yeah, yeah, it ain't quick like you know
Speaker 1: Kyrie is like it's quit handles within ten I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's weird and his moves it'd be working.
Speaker 2: They he's the second fastest score ten thousand points since
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan.
Speaker 1: Something right, and.
Speaker 2: The league just better hope he does just what he's
Speaker 2: doing that because if he ever took training, I'll talk
Speaker 2: about training serious and got in shape.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: You don't think he's in shape, not the way he
Speaker 2: should be.
Speaker 1: Okay, I see what you mean. I see what you mean.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, Like you said, look at this success.
Speaker 2: The man just dropped a fifty piece.
Speaker 3: Mhm.
Speaker 2: When you have that level success, Oho, how do you
Speaker 2: say this working for me? It's like a It's like
Speaker 2: a man like drinking. He drinks before the game and
Speaker 2: he said, man, if you didn't drink, He's like, but
Speaker 2: I just rushed for two hundred, right, I just I
Speaker 2: just dropped forty five? Why? I mean, why would I
Speaker 2: Why would I need to Why would I need to stop?
Speaker 2: That's that's the hard thing. I wasn't like that, O Joe.
Speaker 2: I was willing to try something. I mean, like it
Speaker 2: might help. I'm gonna try it right if it could
Speaker 2: help me get better legally, I'm old.
Speaker 3: Definitely, mister fob for donated one hundred dollars. He said.
Speaker 3: My guts tells me the Ravens will play for the
Speaker 3: AMC Championship.
Speaker 2: However, my question is this, h who's the toughest person
Speaker 2: to block? Oh, Joe, who is your toughest corner to
Speaker 2: compete against? Man, Dude, think about it. I'm too twenty eight.
Speaker 2: I gotta try to block Reggie, Bruce Smith, Michael straighthand
Speaker 2: come on, man, man, give me a corner, give me
Speaker 2: a safety, Let me whip his ass. I get out
Speaker 2: of him flinging me out the way.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: And now they don't even really put the backers on
Speaker 2: the ball. Every once in a while you'll see them
Speaker 2: lying to Sam on the ball. Right now, mainly I'm
Speaker 2: doing give it a little football one on one. They
Speaker 2: play what we call an overfront. An overfront is four
Speaker 2: down linemen in tackle. Tackle in underfront is what we
Speaker 2: call where they had they have four down linemens and
Speaker 2: a linebacker on the ball.
Speaker 3: That's what we call an underfront over four.
Speaker 2: Down lineman, just as down lineman Sam Will Mike off
Speaker 2: the ball a forty three defense under what we call
Speaker 2: it twenty five front. Now you go to a thirty
Speaker 2: four defense is what the Pittsburgh Steelers play. Two backers
Speaker 2: Sam and Will on the ball, three down lineman, a nose,
Speaker 2: and two d ends. And now you got Mike and Plugg.
Speaker 2: So three four two linebackers, three down lineman's Mike plug
Speaker 2: under front, four down linemen, linebacker on the ball, over
Speaker 2: front for down lineman, and so it was a combination.
Speaker 2: Three four used to be really popular the Steelers. I've
Speaker 2: never known the Steelers not to have a three four defense. Uh,
Speaker 2: but there are a lot of under front. Kansas City
Speaker 2: played underfront a lot, and then they moved exclusively to
Speaker 2: a forty three defense and had DT with his hand
Speaker 2: in the dirt.
Speaker 3: But good thing I have to block.
Speaker 2: See I look at guys that were in my division
Speaker 2: because I didn't see brucee a lot. I didn't see
Speaker 2: Straight a lot. I think I only played against Straight
Speaker 2: played against him in the Super Bowl, and I think
Speaker 2: one other time. I think we played him in ninety eight.
Speaker 2: But straight was a hell raiser, man.
Speaker 1: Strong as strong as hell, and man, look here he
Speaker 1: set the edge. Now.
Speaker 2: Hey, he ain't gonna let you hook it. You ain't
Speaker 2: gonna read it now. Yeah man, he could turn you. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Man, hey, prop good thing. They didn't never think I
Speaker 3: was gonna be blocking them when I was over there.
Speaker 2: They always thought it was a past He's sitting like
Speaker 2: you know, they call that he sitting light. Yeah, you're right,
Speaker 2: I'm out. I'm about like a scout on a new route.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Hey, Handlem tackles the hardest to block.
Speaker 3: I say, I'll say, I'll say, Reggie, rest your soul.
Speaker 1: You know. The funny thing is, it's is funny sometimes.
Speaker 1: I mean, for me, those that are difficult to block,
Speaker 1: I didn't even have to block them. You know. All
Speaker 1: you gotta do is just take it run. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: all you got to do is and just run them off.
Speaker 1: I ain't got to waste no energy. And I run
Speaker 1: him and I run him clear. I'm about clear off
Speaker 1: now where they could just turn back, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: they made the tackle, you know, I was in shape shape,
Speaker 1: you know, I run ten fifteen yards just for the
Speaker 1: hell of it, just for just for the hell of it,
Speaker 1: just because I'm in in tip top and tip top
Speaker 1: shape and not have to touch the soul. And if
Speaker 1: anybody gonna make the tackle, is a safety coming from
Speaker 1: way way deep that he's gonna have to come down
Speaker 1: here and make it.
Speaker 3: But my corner not gonna make it.
Speaker 1: You know, I ain't want to waste no energy sitting there,
Speaker 1: you know, rastling with you and trying to show who
Speaker 1: been in the wait for what.
Speaker 2: I used to like, oh choke when I had that
Speaker 2: safety and I push up and I see that safety
Speaker 2: come down that alley.
Speaker 1: You go crack him because he don't see you coming
Speaker 1: because of his eyes in the backfield.
Speaker 2: But you can't do that now, you know. You can't
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 3: Noah, no, no, no, no, you can't do that.
Speaker 1: You can't do that. If anything, you just get in
Speaker 1: the way and help put your arms up, like I'm like.
Speaker 2: That's what all my sake, That's what all Miles Saint
Speaker 2: Brown did. That's what he got it because he tried
Speaker 2: to crack you know, he pushed up and then you
Speaker 2: come down on the safety that's looking to feel down.
Speaker 3: Hen't even hit him.
Speaker 1: He an't even hit he just he just thumped. He
Speaker 1: just thumped him up a little bit, just dumped him
Speaker 1: up a little bit. And they still find.
Speaker 2: A linebacker. The other I think against the coats, he
Speaker 2: hit he hit a running back. The coat played the falcon. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he hit a running back on the sideline and they
Speaker 2: throw an under said roughness on it. So he's running
Speaker 2: the guy and he's going like this, and he came
Speaker 2: and he hit it unnecessarily rough and to say with
Speaker 2: helm and the helmet, well, how the hell I'm gonna
Speaker 2: get it?
Speaker 1: Hey, that's that's what that's that's what the game has
Speaker 1: come to. That's what the game has come to. So
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to find a way to adapt. And
Speaker 1: like I said before, with the way to adapt, people
Speaker 1: are gonna start changing up the way they tackle, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna they gonna mess around and hurt himself.
Speaker 2: Be out of the league because they're gonna be missing
Speaker 2: a bunch of times. Ronaldo Hernandez says, Uncle o Jo,
Speaker 2: do you guys have any supernatural stories? And uh, oh
Speaker 2: were you on him? American dad? Much love, happy, holidays.
Speaker 2: Your last question. First, Yes, I was on American Dad,
Speaker 2: and I was able to play myself. I was a
Speaker 2: bounty hunter shopping in my spaghetti. I mean shopping in
Speaker 2: my machete, about to eat some spaghetti. No, I don't
Speaker 2: have any supernatural stories.
Speaker 1: You o, Joe, what's supernatural? When you say supernatural, give
Speaker 1: me give me better context.
Speaker 2: Now betternatural like ghost stories or chairs moving or ghost
Speaker 2: store Oh.
Speaker 1: Nah, nah, no, No, No, I know one thing I
Speaker 1: wish my mom and my grandma. You know me pooved
Speaker 1: me wrong, that there is after life, because ain't nobody
Speaker 1: gave me a sign.
Speaker 3: They ain't came back and hollered at med.
Speaker 1: Ain't you don't tell me you love me all the
Speaker 1: years you on earth and then when you transition, I
Speaker 1: don't even hear from you. Show me something, let me
Speaker 1: know that there is life after death. So that was
Speaker 1: I'm hoping at some point, you know, you can ask
Speaker 1: me this a few years from now or a few
Speaker 1: months from now, and you asked me about that supernatural
Speaker 1: story again, and I can say, you know what, my
Speaker 1: mama and my grandma.
Speaker 3: They came to visit me.
Speaker 1: I asked for a sign. And this was a sign
Speaker 1: that this showed me. My routine has always been the same.
Speaker 3: A lot of people say, well, if you're paying attention,
Speaker 3: you'll see it. Well, i've been waiting. You've been waiting
Speaker 3: for it. I've been waiting.
Speaker 1: My grandma passed in twenty eighteen. I've been waiting my
Speaker 1: mama passing twenty twenty one. I'm still waiting on something.
Speaker 1: My routine and.
Speaker 3: What I do day to day has not changed any sign.
Speaker 2: The busy working for the lower well, I'm working for
Speaker 2: the busy.
Speaker 3: I'm working for them. To just give me something. Let
Speaker 3: me let me know everything good, Jarry said.
Speaker 2: Joe, how do you deal with self doubt? I'm in
Speaker 2: college and I feel like I'm not smart enough. But
Speaker 2: I also don't want to be filled with regret later
Speaker 2: in life. I need words of wisdom. Do you want
Speaker 2: to take off first, o Joe, John, I'm gonna let
Speaker 2: you have that. With a self doubt that comes from within,
Speaker 2: and I ain't really nothing. I ain't letting nothing on
Speaker 2: the outside make me feel crazy on the inside that
Speaker 2: would have me self doubt myself. That's why I just
Speaker 2: said earlier about the opportunities with the business of the NFL.
Speaker 1: They had you think it's something wrong with you. Same
Speaker 1: thing college will have you question yourself. Relationships and dealing
Speaker 1: with women sometimes and things don't work out.
Speaker 3: That also had your question.
Speaker 1: There's so many different factors in life that will have
Speaker 1: you question yourself. You can't do that self doubt. You
Speaker 1: can't allow anything outside to deter how you feel about yourself.
Speaker 3: You got to keep going.
Speaker 1: You got to keep pushing by all means necessary. O Jo.
Speaker 2: I never had self doubt, like could I could I
Speaker 2: not do something right? But when you get released, you're like,
Speaker 2: but damn, I had the second most catches in the
Speaker 2: NFL for a tight end, had the second most yards, right, Damn.
Speaker 2: Then you go and you know, you think you're doing
Speaker 2: good and you think you're getting better in your craft,
Speaker 2: and CBS and they say, well, you know, we want
Speaker 2: to move in a different direction. And then the same
Speaker 2: thing happening at Fox and you're like, what damn? Everybody
Speaker 2: telling me I'm Everybody telling me I'm good. Everybody on
Speaker 2: the outside is telling me that I'm good and that
Speaker 2: I'm that I'm mad. Like, man, you the best at
Speaker 2: this man, you mabe, I'm talking about I ain't just
Speaker 2: talking about people just talking. I'm talking about NFL players
Speaker 2: that I critique. I'm talking about NBA players that I critique.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about NBA coaches, NFL coaches telling me I'm good.
Speaker 2: I'm the best at what I do. I mean, if
Speaker 2: y'all see that, why why?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 3: The networks?
Speaker 2: But my sister and I told Yo, Joe, my sister
Speaker 2: is very religious.
Speaker 1: Just say, Shannon, God moved you.
Speaker 3: They didn't.
Speaker 2: He did because he wanted you to be somewhere better.
Speaker 1: She said, nawh. Just trusting him.
Speaker 3: Just trusting him. I did.
Speaker 2: When I got let go from CBS, I took money
Speaker 2: out of my own pocket. Did you did a a
Speaker 2: Facebook It's called mouthing off where I would go take
Speaker 2: two or three games, I would break it down, and
Speaker 2: I did it every week. It cast me about thirteen
Speaker 2: thousand dollars to shoot it, to get it edited, put
Speaker 2: it up out of my own pocket. I ain't got
Speaker 2: no money coming in o jo, but I'm just putting
Speaker 2: it out there.
Speaker 1: Let people know.
Speaker 2: Hey, man, you know they would leave comments, good, I
Speaker 2: liked this commentary, blah blah blah, so forth and song.
Speaker 2: Then I get an opportunity to go on first take
Speaker 2: did that took off then with what transpired over the summer, like, man,
Speaker 2: I just need an opportunity, Steven. They had already put
Speaker 2: the bug in my hair and just like look, he said,
Speaker 2: I don't do the hiring over here, but I've already
Speaker 2: told my bosses.
Speaker 1: That I want you, big boy. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So now I'm like a man that ain't gonna ain't
Speaker 2: no way, ain't no way they're gonna break me. Talk
Speaker 2: to Dave Roberts. Just so happened. I'm gonna be in Atlanta.
Speaker 2: He's getting married. He's gonna be in Atlanta at the
Speaker 2: same regions. We gonna have breakfast. We don't done our research,
Speaker 2: We've done our homework. We know we get what you
Speaker 2: want to do. I said, Man, I want to work.
Speaker 2: That's what I do. I work, that's my purpose. I
Speaker 2: work Like okay, So by this time, I'm trying to
Speaker 2: find an agency. I'm interviewing all the agencies because I
Speaker 2: want someone to represent me. I want to take my career.
Speaker 2: I want to see it now. I really want to
Speaker 2: see how far I can go. I want to push
Speaker 2: the envelope. I want to see what I can do.
Speaker 2: Got that resolved. Call my sister, and said, I think
Speaker 2: come on, she said, just give God the glory. She
Speaker 2: mean every time, every time she called me. I talk
Speaker 2: to her every day. She says, Shannon, you say your prayers,
Speaker 2: you're thinking for the waking you up this morning. You
Speaker 2: know it's gonna be all right, right? I said, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be okay. She said nah. She said, you
Speaker 2: don't sound like you think it's gonna be okay. He
Speaker 2: moved it now, he moved watch it. He said, watch it,
Speaker 2: watch it work. Oh Joe, I'm not that just say it.
Speaker 2: I'm not just saying this because I'm on ESPN.
Speaker 3: My mind is so ds. My mind is sods.
Speaker 1: So ese.
Speaker 3: I wake up every day like man.
Speaker 2: And when I look when I went on, when I
Speaker 2: was like, okay, I gotta find a new job. I
Speaker 2: got the podcast. I'm gonna do that. C J has
Speaker 2: been by my side. He's been producing Club Sha Shape.
Speaker 2: So Yae, what you gonna say?
Speaker 3: I go?
Speaker 2: But ash So I like I cause I already told him.
Speaker 2: Once she started working with me at Fox, I said,
Speaker 2: you know, if I ever get my own show, you
Speaker 2: don't will take you?
Speaker 1: She like, okay, I go. I mean no hands a
Speaker 1: tad like hold on.
Speaker 2: She's like, I'll go. I'm like, okay, say I'm for real.
Speaker 2: She's like, okay, so transpired this summer. I don't know
Speaker 2: what I'm gonna do. I head up.
Speaker 1: I said, what you're doing? It's like nothing working, blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. I say, uh, what you.
Speaker 2: Want to do? You want to come with me? She's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know where you're going.
Speaker 1: I say no. She's like, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: Now she had no idea what I was gonna do
Speaker 2: because at this point in time, ESPN hadn't even happened.
Speaker 2: So even if I don't do ESPN, I'm gonna have
Speaker 2: to pay her out of my pocket. So she put
Speaker 2: in her you know she's gonna leave. Hey, what's your
Speaker 2: account number? I wire the money into account because I
Speaker 2: want her to know. Look, I said, this is what
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do, and even if it doesn't happen, you know, monthly,
Speaker 2: you're gonna get money.
Speaker 1: Right and.
Speaker 3: Night capus. She does a lot of the legwork.
Speaker 2: I mean, we got the we got the easy part,
Speaker 2: o Joe, because talking is what we do, Analyzing the
Speaker 2: game is what we do. But the format and all
Speaker 2: the questions and how we're gonna you know how we're
Speaker 2: gonna formulate this. That's her. That's her. And so now
Speaker 2: I look back, I say, you know what, my sister
Speaker 2: was right. My sister was right. But I've never had
Speaker 2: I never had doubt. Like when I played football O Joe,
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm him, Yeah, I know, I'm here.
Speaker 2: I mean, ain't nobody to do what I do and
Speaker 2: have fun doing it. But when you and it's like
Speaker 2: when everybody else is telling you, but everybody else is
Speaker 2: not the bosses at these networks. So although I appreciate
Speaker 2: the praise and the ad relation that you're giving me,
Speaker 2: and you're saying I'm doing a good job, I need
Speaker 2: some jokers that that's that that got these suits and
Speaker 2: ties on, that's doing the hiring and the firing to
Speaker 2: believe that.
Speaker 3: I'm doing a good job or I can do a
Speaker 3: good job.
Speaker 2: And so and I think that's that's what meant meant
Speaker 2: because I don't know how much. And I'm sure they
Speaker 2: probably look, but I was, I'm on when steven A's on,
Speaker 2: So it's not like he gets an opportunity to see
Speaker 2: what I'm doing. I'm sure somebody people have told him
Speaker 2: about what I'm doing or how I'll saying, how go
Speaker 2: about my business? But he doesn't get a chance to watch,
Speaker 2: nor do I get a chance to watch him, because
Speaker 2: he's on what I'm on. But bro, you gotta believe
Speaker 2: because if you don't believe in you, who else will.
Speaker 1: You know? You got to? And I mean it all
Speaker 1: comes down to the key, the key component not allowing
Speaker 1: things on outside to deter you on how you feel.
Speaker 1: You can't oo.
Speaker 3: They say, your grandma gave you a sign.
Speaker 2: It's real rail your sign, but about like real like
Speaker 2: that they rail here.
Speaker 1: That's a good one. Yeah, that's that's a nice little
Speaker 1: foundation now, a nice little struck like nice little structure.
Speaker 3: It's it's funny when that you know what, I ain't a.
Speaker 2: La said my girl and I broke up a month
Speaker 2: hold on my girlfriend and I broke broke up. I
Speaker 2: asked to get back together. I slept with someone else
Speaker 2: while broken up, And she says she doesn't know if
Speaker 2: she can get over it.
Speaker 3: Any advice to change your mind?
Speaker 1: No, absolutely, bro y'all broke it up.
Speaker 2: You don't get there, You don't get the whold My
Speaker 2: feelings hostage and you probably she probably slept with someone else.
Speaker 3: And didn't tell you.
Speaker 1: Yep, show did, Yes, she did.
Speaker 2: I've been in that very situation. I've been in the situation. Bro,
Speaker 2: we broken, we have broken up. So I'm just supposed
Speaker 2: to take that.
Speaker 3: I'm just spoke. Just sit around while you go do
Speaker 3: your thing.
Speaker 2: You out all in there you out mm hmm no.
Speaker 3: Crazy game crazy.
Speaker 2: Ask yourself this, why do you guys break up? Was it?
Speaker 2: Was it infidelity to begin with? Was it a lack
Speaker 2: of respect to begin with? Uh?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 3: Was it a family issue to begin with? It?
Speaker 1: Boredom?
Speaker 2: But yeah, you I mean you have to ask yourself,
Speaker 2: do you want to be with her? Or is it
Speaker 2: the thought of her? Those are two different things. Now,
Speaker 2: do you really want to be with her or is
Speaker 2: it the thought of her?
Speaker 1: Or do you not?
Speaker 3: You kept don't want to see somebody else with her?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and you we've all been there. We've all
Speaker 2: been there somebody I.
Speaker 1: Don't really I don't really want to be with you,
Speaker 1: but I'm apply a little pressure because I don't want
Speaker 1: to see nobody else. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had I had a day like I had a
Speaker 1: I had a time like that back in nineteen ninety three,
Speaker 1: I'll never forget. Yeah, old bon Cueisha, I wonder what
Speaker 1: she's doing on you, man, you're probably waiting on you. Well, Ship,
Speaker 1: that's all. He is too late now, he is too
Speaker 1: late to too.
Speaker 3: Late now, you boy, I'm good, you good, Bridge.
Speaker 2: Barry said, I plan on proposing to my girlfriend in
Speaker 2: the coming weeks. What are the chances I get unking
Speaker 2: Oho to attend the wedding? Shoot at my shot with
Speaker 2: you guys like I am with her much love.
Speaker 1: Don't don't invite us. Just give me the address and
Speaker 1: let me crash it. Yo. Look, because me we're gonna
Speaker 1: come through and we're gonna sing cattle in the y
Speaker 1: mixer like they didn't Step Brothers. I'm ready, I'm performing.
Speaker 1: We're gonna perform.
Speaker 3: Since they won't let us on YouTube, we can't sing here.
Speaker 1: We're gonna sing adding Yeah you remember you remember Step?
Speaker 1: I remember Step Broo Boats and hose Catalina White.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, Ship, we're gonna be at that bitch turned out.
Speaker 3: Why are you like crashing people wed?
Speaker 1: Because it don't feel the same when they invite you.
Speaker 1: It ain't the same when they invite you. When you
Speaker 1: show up, it feels so much better. When you just
Speaker 1: like just walking that bitch out of like you're not
Speaker 1: supposed to be there. Yeah, it just it hit different. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it hit different like that.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: All I know is this, I'm trying to make it
Speaker 2: through the NBA season to the NBA Finals, and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna need me about six to eight weeks.
Speaker 3: I'm going somewhere. I'm getting off the grid.
Speaker 1: When you we're NBA the NBA Finals, probably like that Sunday,
Speaker 1: which would be around Father's Day. I mean what month?
Speaker 1: So that's June.
Speaker 3: You a long way you go, You got along way go.
Speaker 1: We ain't even hit the New year. Yay.
Speaker 2: Ain't but one person gonna know where I'm at. He
Speaker 2: ain't gonna be able to tell nobody. That's the man
Speaker 2: of stairs. That the only person gonna know where I'm at.
Speaker 2: Heit Wait, hold on, who you going with? You're gonna
Speaker 2: by yourself?
Speaker 3: Did I just tell you? Ain't nobody gonna know?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean, I know, nobody gonna know where you're
Speaker 1: gonna be at, But I just want to know if
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a.
Speaker 2: Plus one, you know, Big Daddy go tear it up,
Speaker 2: Big Daddy, go up and big Daddy will te it up.
Speaker 3: That's all I won't say.
Speaker 2: Oh show, that's all I got, but that I'm going somewhere.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I might go to the.
Speaker 2: Bottom, go live on the get on one of them
Speaker 2: more hunts, live on one of them huns on the water.
Speaker 3: That's fine.
Speaker 1: That's okay.
Speaker 3: That's a long that's a long flight.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: And they said they got the more they got the curtains,
Speaker 2: riding the round, the riding the seats. Yeah, my come,
Speaker 2: and I ain't talking about Colorado over there?
Speaker 3: Hey y'all about?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you ain't like me, the old Josey.
Speaker 3: You on nice?
Speaker 1: And you know, oh shay, who who nice? I ain't nice? Nice?
Speaker 1: You see?
Speaker 3: You an adventurous who ain't adventurous?
Speaker 1: What you boy?
Speaker 3: You forgot?
Speaker 1: I touched it from north? You hold on nine you've forgotten.
Speaker 1: Now I touch it from north to south. Make you
Speaker 1: hit every corner of the wall. Now you hit every
Speaker 1: corner and Crevis, you're on your own. You got me there,
Speaker 1: now you got it?
Speaker 2: You got me?
Speaker 1: Just I just I'm I'm just reminding you. Maybe you
Speaker 1: forgot who I was? Yeah I did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't forgive me. Don't forgive me history now uh yes.
Speaker 1: Sir, chats.
Speaker 2: The chat says they have an unk tracker like they
Speaker 2: do for and Taylor swell Plane.
Speaker 1: They gonna know.
Speaker 3: They ain't gonna know where I go with yo. They
Speaker 3: don't need it.
Speaker 2: I'm ready.
Speaker 1: I just, I just I just want to see you happy, man.
Speaker 1: I want to see your smile. I just I just
Speaker 1: want to like you know, when you when you when
Speaker 1: you have a puzzle, like all the pieces to your
Speaker 1: puzzle are perfect, it's almost together, but there's one there's
Speaker 1: one piece of that puzzle that really hasn't completed.
Speaker 3: It's not complete that one piece. And that's that's the
Speaker 3: missus you need.
Speaker 1: You need a missus in your life, man, you need
Speaker 1: a missus to complete everything is complete the journey, you know,
Speaker 1: and one that understands all you have going on and
Speaker 1: understands the sacrifices that you are making based on.
Speaker 3: That's the thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that, And I'm telling you that's what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to find you. But you won't listen, you hard
Speaker 1: head of your stubborn Sometimes I know, I know, I
Speaker 1: know you heard that before.
Speaker 2: I ain't. This ain't the first. How do you identify
Speaker 2: your purpose? If I was your son? What would you
Speaker 2: tell me. I'm the first of my family to break
Speaker 2: many cycles. I need some guidance. I didn't tell my
Speaker 2: son anything. I allowed him to be what he wanted
Speaker 2: to be, because at the end of the day, that's
Speaker 2: his life. I've lived my life. You've heard me say
Speaker 2: it before. I didn't want anybody and I just told him.
Speaker 2: I told him. I was talking to my daughter today.
Speaker 2: Her and I had a very hard to heart moment today.
Speaker 2: She was kind of enough feelings about some things and
Speaker 2: I just had to explain some things to her. So
Speaker 2: it was great. Is that I never wanted my kids,
Speaker 2: oh Joe, my kids are a lot older than yours,
Speaker 2: to get to a point in their life and say, Daddy,
Speaker 2: I only did this because of you.
Speaker 3: That was That was probably my greatest fear, because you know.
Speaker 2: You know how you do something, oh Joe, and you're like,
Speaker 2: I only did I only came because you invited me.
Speaker 2: Oh I only did this, nah nah.
Speaker 1: That's a yeah.
Speaker 2: So in other words, you would have wasted twenty twenty
Speaker 2: five thirty years of your life doing something that you
Speaker 2: didn't want to do only to appease your dad.
Speaker 1: Nah nah.
Speaker 2: And so that's what I told my son. You know,
Speaker 2: people like your son didn't play sport. That wasn't what
Speaker 2: he wanted to do. That's what I wanted to do,
Speaker 2: That's what his uncle wanted to do. He wanted to
Speaker 2: go to school, get a degree. There are a lot
Speaker 2: of things. He wanted to be a pharmacies. He want
Speaker 2: to do something with medicine. He did that, and you know,
Speaker 2: he found his mate and he got married.
Speaker 3: Yeah, gotta got my grandson and he's happy.
Speaker 2: I think he's happier right now than had he done
Speaker 2: something that I wanted him to do.
Speaker 1: Right So, I'm kind of I'm kind of the same
Speaker 1: way with my kids, obviously my son, with both of
Speaker 1: my sons, I would never forced the issue. I'm not
Speaker 1: one of those that tried to live vicariously through my kids.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a support of dad and whatever it is
Speaker 1: that you want to do, you can do whatever you
Speaker 1: choose to do. You can do. Obviously, anything that puts
Speaker 1: you in harm's way, I'm not. I'm not really supported,
Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, I'm blessing you and whatever feet, whatever
Speaker 1: journey you take, I'm gonna be with you one hundred
Speaker 1: steps away. You don't have to play football, you know,
Speaker 1: if you want to play football, cool, that's fine, and
Speaker 1: Danny if they if you don't want to play football,
Speaker 1: whatever it is you have to do. Understand, in life,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to earn a living. You're gonna have
Speaker 1: to do something. You just can't do nothing. Now you
Speaker 1: gotta do something. Oh yeah, yeah. You got to be
Speaker 1: passionate about something in life and have a drive and
Speaker 1: have that same drive and that same worth ethic that
Speaker 1: I did to be successful at whatever it is that
Speaker 1: you that you choose to do.
Speaker 3: But whatever it may be, I'm all for it.
Speaker 1: I would never force and I think you know, growing
Speaker 1: up when you have kids, you never want to force
Speaker 1: them to do something because when they get to an
Speaker 1: age where they can kind of be rebellious and then.
Speaker 3: Not fight back literally but like say, you.
Speaker 1: Know what, this ain't what I want to do. I
Speaker 1: don't want to do this because you force me to
Speaker 1: do it. They tend to resent that and they grow
Speaker 1: up hating whatever sport that is that you're forcing on
Speaker 1: them because maybe you were successful at it, or maybe
Speaker 1: because you want to force them to do it because
Speaker 1: you know you didn't take.
Speaker 2: It, so you want to make sure they do live
Speaker 2: your life or your kid, anything, a partner I've never looked.
Speaker 2: I tell my kids all the time, if you like them,
Speaker 2: I love them. Hell, I ain't got to spend one
Speaker 2: night with them. You do, right, So if that's who
Speaker 2: makes you happy my son, Hey, don't you put your hand. Hey,
Speaker 2: you got a kid, nothing that's not your child. You
Speaker 2: don't discipline her, you talk to her, you treat her
Speaker 2: with respect. I tell her the same thing. That's my son.
Speaker 2: I love him. I want you to treat him with respect.
Speaker 2: My daughters say, hey, I ain't gonna say if.
Speaker 1: You love it.
Speaker 2: If you if you love him, I don't care. I
Speaker 2: don't care what he does this. Hey, don't you want
Speaker 2: you to do? I want my daughter to be happy.
Speaker 2: If she finds somebody that makes ten million, that makes
Speaker 2: her happy, I'm cool. She finds somebody that makes fifty thousand,
Speaker 2: as long as that fifty thousand can.
Speaker 3: Support them, I'm good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Because at the end of the day, I want
Speaker 2: my daughter to be loved because I know I know
Speaker 2: they love my son. I want him to find somebody
Speaker 2: that loved him because I know he loves so all
Speaker 2: that other stuff. At the end of the day, if
Speaker 2: they find somebody that loves them. That's all I ask.
Speaker 2: Bring me some brave and give me some grandkids. You see,
Speaker 2: my son, my grandson got this. Look at it, that's
Speaker 2: what I got. That's a teacher that got papa. He
Speaker 2: got a football up on his arm and everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: kJ got that for his popart that what is gonna
Speaker 2: call me? I told her, say, Well, my son, say daddy,
Speaker 2: what you want him to Uh? He said, Dad, what
Speaker 2: you want him to call? You said, you can call
Speaker 2: me Papa or you can call me Papa shake either
Speaker 2: either one, I said. And when y'all come back, we're
Speaker 2: gonna be at Magic eating Chicken Tenders Mania.
Speaker 3: I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready for that.
Speaker 1: I want to see what I want to I want
Speaker 1: to see what that.
Speaker 2: Oh Magic already got it. Just let me just give
Speaker 2: me the way. Just let us get laid. Let me
Speaker 2: get like you the end of you know, let us
Speaker 2: get out. Let's get out of January, let's get out
Speaker 2: of the let's get out of the football thing. Let's
Speaker 2: get past the super bowls or like the middle of
Speaker 2: Mark in the middle of February March right, uh huh uh,
Speaker 2: I mean I'm in there like swimwear. You know what
Speaker 2: I mean. You see them girls in I g how
Speaker 2: that swimwear be fitting. That's how gonna be lodged up
Speaker 2: in there.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm going, I'm going.
Speaker 1: No, ain't know, you gotta say. I gotta see. I
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta see what the food hit like. And
Speaker 1: and I want to be I want to I want
Speaker 1: to use my peripheral vision as well. Okay, I want
Speaker 1: to see what the food look like. Oh but I
Speaker 1: want to use the peripheral vision as well. Stay they
Speaker 1: stay with me now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh Joe, you know what the man push your
Speaker 3: glass up like that? Right now?
Speaker 2: Do you put your glass up like that? Yeah, he's
Speaker 2: out something. I would get a jigger tiller, the pine
Speaker 2: camp Ish strips, the nuggets.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get magic magic City. That real nice. I
Speaker 1: can see. I can see it now, man, I can
Speaker 1: see it.
Speaker 3: Going to the stage.
Speaker 1: Coco.
Speaker 3: Who oh, I bet she fans.
Speaker 1: Hey Coch.
Speaker 2: You know they card Dad, you know they got the
Speaker 2: card day the Barrari.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what's up? Like? I like it? I like it.
Speaker 3: I gotta I gotta practice throw them for ones. You
Speaker 3: throw your ones like this.
Speaker 2: So you ain't been there so long. Man, it's been
Speaker 2: a while.
Speaker 1: I got I got, I gotta practice. I gotta practice,
Speaker 1: you know, I know you gotta gotta. You gotta lick
Speaker 1: your your finger.
Speaker 2: I mean, you don't hold your you know, I bad,
Speaker 2: you know, matter save up. I might have to make
Speaker 2: a hell on him. Throw some coin, you know it
Speaker 2: be hailing in the club to rain it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, I can't compete.
Speaker 1: I can't compete. I can't compete that. I probably get
Speaker 1: a hundred. I probably get a hundred dollars and ones,
Speaker 1: and I throw five dollars at the time and make
Speaker 1: it look like it's a lot.
Speaker 3: But it ain't gonna You gotta you gotta go. We gotta
Speaker 3: go in there.
Speaker 2: We gotta spend at least we gotta spend at least
Speaker 2: five between us five bands.
Speaker 1: Man, Oh but I'm sorry, my bad almost you know,
Speaker 1: God forgive me almost backslid. Well, you said somebody, I
Speaker 1: gotta spend five bands.
Speaker 3: Between us on five apiece.
Speaker 1: Oh oh okay.
Speaker 3: Okay, I could do that. If I could do that,
Speaker 3: I could do that.
Speaker 1: I thought you were saying we gonna we gotta spend
Speaker 1: five piece.
Speaker 2: You keep on tipping this zip it, come on, come
Speaker 2: on now.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3: I could do I can do twenty five. I could
Speaker 3: do I could do I can do that.
Speaker 1: I can do that.
Speaker 3: Ain't no pressure, ain't no pressure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I could I could do, I could do twelve.
Speaker 1: I can do twelve five and get twelve. I got
Speaker 1: give me twelve fast. What what you called that tied?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I like that. I like God damn I
Speaker 1: know that thing would be nice too.
Speaker 3: Coming to the stage.
Speaker 2: Oh, Joe, you recently tweeted saying closed mouth, don't get
Speaker 2: fair shooting my shots again for photographing your wedding for free.
Speaker 2: I d M the missus the missus on I G
Speaker 2: and Twitter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh I'm I'm I'm in here. Didn't let her
Speaker 1: know she might be in the chat baby baby few
Speaker 1: and the yet well you know what, she ain't said nothing,
Speaker 1: so she probably ain't in here.
Speaker 3: But i'ma let ask you before I take any more,
Speaker 3: question what you give. I don't control none of that
Speaker 3: you give for Christmas? Before I ask answer.
Speaker 1: What you get? Stop man stopped playing? Listen? And what
Speaker 1: did I tell you when you asked me? What can
Speaker 1: she get that I would really like. What's the first
Speaker 1: thing I said. I think you said perfume cologne?
Speaker 3: No, no, I do it every day.
Speaker 1: I do every day. No that too. But what I
Speaker 1: spoke eyguard dang man, this woman brought me a brand
Speaker 1: new box of Daniel Marshall's cigars twenty four twenty four.
Speaker 1: Carry Yeah, twenty twenty four carried Goal cigars. Wow, box
Speaker 1: of them things. What else?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 3: Got me some nice cologne, got me some nice cologne.
Speaker 3: My baby, my baby.
Speaker 2: My daughter.
Speaker 1: Got me a McDonald's gift card with a thousand dollars
Speaker 1: on there. Man, Yeah, yeah, man, Oh listen, I got
Speaker 1: the new McDonald's.
Speaker 3: You've seen the McDonald's ugs.
Speaker 1: You ain't see the McDonald I gotta get you, no,
Speaker 1: got come on, I got to get you to pay
Speaker 1: McDonald's hugs.
Speaker 3: Like like that.
Speaker 1: The women be wearing the bar not us cross. I'll go.
Speaker 3: You know you know I'm old. You know I'm old.
Speaker 3: I be mixed.
Speaker 1: I'll be mixing up the name of all the type
Speaker 1: of stuff. I make the name all types of stuff.
Speaker 1: But man, today today was beautiful. Today was beautiful. I
Speaker 1: really enjoyed it watching the faces many the faces of
Speaker 1: the kids when they light up. They obviously they older
Speaker 1: than now, you already know what you're getting. Just to
Speaker 1: see their faces light up like that. Man and French
Speaker 1: Fry watching French Fried don't know what the hell going on.
Speaker 1: She don't know what's going on, but she got her
Speaker 1: little presence. She opened them up and she tearing off
Speaker 1: piece by piece, like girl, let me show you how
Speaker 1: you do this.
Speaker 3: You got to you gotta listening to that thing.
Speaker 1: What you're doing.
Speaker 3: Man, So next year, I'm sure she'll probably get the
Speaker 3: hang of it. But I thought that that's I like
Speaker 3: Christmas time.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: My kids they don't really ask for nothing throughout the year.
Speaker 1: They don't really ask them just be small stuff. Be
Speaker 1: small stuff. And I remember I tweeted out one of
Speaker 1: my one of my daughter's lists, and people are like,
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, that's expensive. Listen, if you understood how
Speaker 1: well they're doing in school, how well they're doing in school,
Speaker 1: and when they out of school, just just the way
Speaker 1: they move and everything is. I don't want to take credit.
Speaker 1: I've done a good job. The moms have done a
Speaker 1: good job. So when Christmas time come, I want to
Speaker 1: want to reward them with everything. You know, they asked for.
Speaker 2: So that's a good Elijah Ball told, Hey, unkin, O Joe,
Speaker 2: we recently had to put our beloved pet, Chocolate Lap down,
Speaker 2: and it's really hurting my family, especially my father. Our
Speaker 2: dog was it little was his little boy. How did
Speaker 2: you code with the passing of your dog? Appreciated?
Speaker 1: Okay, don't you man, don't have me on here crying
Speaker 1: again like we.
Speaker 3: Did last time you were talking about dogs. I ain't
Speaker 3: gonna low with you.
Speaker 2: It's tough and you don't get over you just deal
Speaker 2: with it better with time.
Speaker 3: You know, you you you get to deal with it.
Speaker 2: But you spend so much time with them, and you know,
Speaker 2: the thing is with me, O Joe. I've always said,
Speaker 2: I mean, and I've seen people keep dogs alive or
Speaker 2: animals alive for themselves and not for the ani. The
Speaker 2: animals hurt it. He can't hear, she can't it can't
Speaker 2: tell you it's hurting. But it's hurting, you know, and
Speaker 2: so you know, but man, it's tough.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: It's gonna take you. It's gonna take you a while.
Speaker 2: It'll take you a while. You're gonna cry because you're
Speaker 2: gonna think about the time that you know how many
Speaker 2: times it met you at the door, and how excited
Speaker 2: it was to eat, and how excited it was you
Speaker 2: to pet you, for you to put it on his head.
Speaker 2: But as time passed, it gets a little easy for
Speaker 2: you to deal with it. You don't get over it.
Speaker 2: I remember all my dogs. I remember all of them,
Speaker 2: where I put them, where they was at, when I
Speaker 2: had them put down and had them held them in
Speaker 2: my arms, when I had the event.
Speaker 3: Come over there and minister the uh the solution.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it's it's it's not easy, but I understand
Speaker 2: that what you're going through. Elijah Daniel Kayley, Hey, unknot
Speaker 2: your What advice would you give to a man finding
Speaker 2: the right money woman to have kids with the right
Speaker 2: traits and a woman or motherly personality traits?
Speaker 3: May Christmas bro That's something only you know.
Speaker 1: Yep, that's it. You know. I'm mine.
Speaker 3: I just I just look for athletic ability.
Speaker 1: Can you run jump?
Speaker 3: How high?
Speaker 1: Let me see Gannkles if we go, you know what
Speaker 1: I like to do. But this is so funny with
Speaker 1: real when me and real first men, obviously, you know,
Speaker 1: the first date had to be something where I had
Speaker 1: to see if she had any type of athleticism, and
Speaker 1: she has a background being in the army, uh you know,
Speaker 1: being a paratrooper obviously knowing how to how to shoot
Speaker 1: a gun ready for war and all this training that
Speaker 1: she did. So so since you like that and you're
Speaker 1: supposed to be a shooter like that to the right,
Speaker 1: play paintball? Yeah, we know when they played paintball one
Speaker 1: on one. We went and played paintball one on one
Speaker 1: and we did we did the course and we tried
Speaker 1: to see.
Speaker 3: Who gets who can win. She got you.
Speaker 1: I need I need to see you operate under pressure,
Speaker 1: because they're they're going to come times in our relationship
Speaker 1: where they're gonna we're gonna be put in certain circumstances
Speaker 1: that are gonna be similar to that of.
Speaker 3: Paintball. That was fun. That was fun.
Speaker 1: How do you operate under pyro?
Speaker 2: What a fan said, Oh can you give ash a
Speaker 2: former shout out? What's her name? She deserved public recognition
Speaker 2: from us the fans. If she cool with it?
Speaker 1: She not?
Speaker 3: She does not bad.
Speaker 2: Look here anytime I'm taking a picture, I was like, hey, Jeorge,
Speaker 2: take this picture like what ash Man Ash Ash on
Speaker 2: the plane, Ash in the car, Ash your go to
Speaker 2: the bathroom.
Speaker 3: You look here, if you if you see, you.
Speaker 2: Not gonna know Ash with me, ashby walking like fifty
Speaker 2: steps ahead or twenty five steps behind. And you think
Speaker 2: she just like a passenger in the airport going so
Speaker 2: she does not want anything.
Speaker 3: She's over here sitting of the chair. Last she's in the.
Speaker 2: Chair laughing, ash Man. Ash does not want She is
Speaker 2: a She don't want any attention. She ain't getting. Oh
Speaker 2: oh look here. The first thing would Geordane take a picture?
Speaker 2: Did you get me? Did you did you get me? Jordan?
Speaker 3: Let me see? Just like nah, they get you? Let
Speaker 3: me see she gonna get she gonna get you?
Speaker 2: Or to cut that pitch out. She ain't get no
Speaker 2: picture of Ash bad. But Uh, she's amazing, She's she's unbelievable.
Speaker 2: She's an unbelievable hard worker. She's extremely dedicated. Uh she's
Speaker 2: here today, so is Jordan. You know they got a
Speaker 2: little time off. They didn't have to come as early
Speaker 2: as they normally do. Uh, you didn't have to come
Speaker 2: to the house, Ash, Oh my god, you did, Ash,
Speaker 2: you did.
Speaker 1: But you sleep till you.
Speaker 2: I ain't never seen nobody sleep like Ash. You You
Speaker 2: swear she's a child I'll tell my she sleeping. No,
Speaker 2: she could literally sleep fourteen hours a day. Fourteen hours
Speaker 2: a day. I mean, I'll call Ash sometime in the day.
Speaker 1: She's like hello.
Speaker 2: I'm like, Ash, is one thirty you knocked out?
Speaker 3: She's like, how did you know I would sleep?
Speaker 1: Ash?
Speaker 3: Everybody can tell me, somebody what I woke you up?
Speaker 3: I was like, bro, like, dude, what's good? She's over.
Speaker 2: I'm like, ain't no, Ain't that much sleep in the world.
Speaker 2: But uh, but no, She's She's unbelievable. She's unbelievable. A
Speaker 2: lot of the success that I've been able to enjoy,
Speaker 2: that we've been able to enjoy with night camp is
Speaker 2: that directly tied uh to Ash.
Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 2: special bottle for you or someone that you love and
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Speaker 2: demolition job on the forty nine ers thirty three to thirteen.
Speaker 2: They picked rock party off five times and score on
Speaker 2: seven straight possessions.
Speaker 3: They win thirty three to nineteen.
Speaker 2: Who else Kansas City lose unable to secure the AFC
Speaker 2: West twenty to fourteen to the Raiders two back and
Speaker 2: back possessions of a scoop and score and a pick
Speaker 2: six doom the Chiefs, and right now there need another
Speaker 2: victory in order to secure the divis vision. And then
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Speaker 1: What was it?
Speaker 2: Thirty three twenty five? The Giants win thirty three twenty five,
Speaker 2: right because they won by eight? They won thirty three
Speaker 2: twenty five yep, thirty three twenty five. Jalen Hurst is
Speaker 2: the first quarterback to go back to back season with
Speaker 2: at least twenty touchdown passes in ten touchdown russian. He's
Speaker 2: also set an NFL record for the most rushing touchdowns
Speaker 2: in a season by quarterback with fifteen so congratulations to
Speaker 2: the Ravens win thirty three nineteen, congratulations to the he
Speaker 2: Goes thirty three twenty five, and the Raiders went on
Speaker 2: the road twenty fourteen over the Chiefs. And so with
Speaker 2: that being said, well i'll see you again, uh, nightcap
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Speaker 1: Shape?
Speaker 3: What are these?
Speaker 2: And then you know, I don't do the I don't
Speaker 2: I don't do the retro. I don't do the retro bumblebees.
Speaker 3: Do you know what this is?
Speaker 1: Ojoe?
Speaker 3: What's you?
Speaker 1: Model? No?
Speaker 3: Eleven is?
Speaker 1: I don't man, If it ain't Jordan Ones, I don't know, man.
Speaker 1: What number is that? That's the four folk on phoning
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