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Speaker 1: On this episode of news World, we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about California. California is our biggest state, as the most

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Speaker 1: people historically has set up a lot of different trends,

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Speaker 1: and we're now seeing a recall effort underway which is enormous,

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Speaker 1: and we're seeing a California government which is so out

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Speaker 1: of control that just an area of unemployment compensation somehow

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Speaker 1: had thirty two billion, not million, thirty two billion dollars

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Speaker 1: stolen from people of California. So every time you turn around,

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Speaker 1: Governor Newsom is doing something that makes him even less acceptable,

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Speaker 1: and I think as a result, is a very widespread

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Speaker 1: interest in recalling him. And it's truly in the one

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Speaker 1: of the biggest government and politics stories of the next

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Speaker 1: few months. So we're very fortunate today in that our

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Speaker 1: guest is Anne Dunsmore, who I've known for many years.

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Speaker 1: She's the campaign manager and finance director of Rescue California.

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Speaker 1: She's going to share with us where they are on

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Speaker 1: their grassroots effort, what we can do to be helpful,

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Speaker 1: and what the cases were recalling basically firing Gavin Newsoma.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me. Can you start at the beginning,

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Speaker 1: How did the Newsome. Recall efforts start in California. Well,

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Speaker 1: it really started two recall efforts ago. There were two

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Speaker 1: sort of failed attempts, but what came of that was

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Speaker 1: very positive and that many of those people stayed together

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Speaker 1: and formed Recall Gavin twenty twenty and those are the

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Speaker 1: original Petitioners, also known as the California Patriot Coalition. I

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Speaker 1: was doing the Mike Arcia race at the time, and

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Speaker 1: that special election really was an eye opener because I

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Speaker 1: think we kicked a little, but that one in the

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Speaker 1: special I joined the effort with the original petitioners, largely

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Speaker 1: because they had this massive volunteer effort. It was incredibly

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Speaker 1: well organized. They had layers of volunteer management that totaled

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Speaker 1: about four hundred people, and then the people on the

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Speaker 1: ground in virtually every county of the state. I've done

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Speaker 1: a lot of political campaigns, I've never seen anything like it,

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Speaker 1: So I just thought there's something too this. This is

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Speaker 1: a citizen movement. It's not you're, you know, carefully top

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Speaker 1: down orchestrated political campaign. These people were really driving the

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Speaker 1: energy of getting these signatures. So I started with them

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Speaker 1: in July and got into October where we ended up

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Speaker 1: needing to file an extension. COVID really posed some serious

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Speaker 1: obstacles and getting signatures. Once we got the extension from

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Speaker 1: November seventeenth March seventeenth, I started Rescue California, which is

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Speaker 1: the name that darryl Issa used in the two thousand

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Speaker 1: and three effort to recall Gray Davis, and it's the

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Speaker 1: same exact model. You had a volunteer effort that started it,

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Speaker 1: very admirable, amazing, and then you kind of called in

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Speaker 1: the artillery or as in the case of this situation,

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Speaker 1: or in Heatley, who's the original petitioner, said we're the army,

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Speaker 1: and Rescue California is the cavalry, and we're glad to

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Speaker 1: have him here. So what we did was immediately went

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Speaker 1: into direct mail. In the meantime, they increase their ground

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Speaker 1: troops to about five thousand. So to this day you've

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Speaker 1: got a group of people who have been doing this

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Speaker 1: for over a year and they are out all the

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Speaker 1: time getting signatures, and mister Speaker, it will go down

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Speaker 1: in history as being the largest number of signatures gathered

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Speaker 1: by volunteers in the history of the United States. It's

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Speaker 1: a main thing, and it speaks to the trouble that

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Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom is going to have in keeping his job.

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Speaker 1: As I understand California politics, traditionally these kind of efforts

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Speaker 1: involved paid signature gatherers. Well, you somehow manage to trigger

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Speaker 1: or maybe Gavin Newsom has triggered a genuinely grassroots volunteer

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Speaker 1: effort on the scale that we've never seen. I would

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Speaker 1: that be an accurate statement. Absolutely. Now, I will say

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Speaker 1: that we had a group of donors and you know

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Speaker 1: our three and a half million pieces and they were like,

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Speaker 1: what else can we do? I mean, we said, well,

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Speaker 1: there really is no other stone to leave unturned. We're

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Speaker 1: pretty sure we're going to get there. And they said, well,

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Speaker 1: how about we make absolutely sure and we're going to

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Speaker 1: invest a little bit of money so that you can

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Speaker 1: maybe gather two hundred thousand signatures with paid signature gatherers.

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Speaker 1: And we got a great deal because usually that's a

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Speaker 1: heart stopping arrangement when you've got paid signature gatherers because

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Speaker 1: they can kind of raise the price whenever they but

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Speaker 1: in this case, we got a fixed price. And last

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Speaker 1: and I'll tell you the volunteers welcomed him with donuts

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Speaker 1: utilize them for an additional two hundred thousand signatures and

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Speaker 1: put this thing to bed. What seemed to be the

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Speaker 1: arguments that are driving support most dramatically, well, I mean

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Speaker 1: we can start with the most recent and you know,

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Speaker 1: there's several lists that we're number one on and none

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Speaker 1: of them are good lists. The key lists that we're

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Speaker 1: worst state in the country that have failed to roll

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Speaker 1: out the vaccines. He had plenty of time to be

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Speaker 1: prepared for this. Now, what you're saying is a political

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Speaker 1: response to a policy problem, shutting down the schools. You

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Speaker 1: have a public school across the street from a private school.

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Speaker 1: Private schools open, public schools closed. Our friend Willie Brown

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Speaker 1: got out and kind of quietly and sweetly kicked his

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Speaker 1: COVID problem, and if he fixes the school problem, he

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Speaker 1: won't get recalled. A week later, we get a two

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Speaker 1: billion dollar grant program thrown out into the public domain

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Speaker 1: that the teachers never reviewed. Now you're starting to hear

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Speaker 1: them say, this isn't a solution to the problem, this

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Speaker 1: isn't what we would want, And so his own base

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Speaker 1: is starting to create trouble for him. I think the

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Speaker 1: turning point was at a round Thanksgiving when he said, nope,

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Speaker 1: everybody has to wear their masks, were closing all the restaurants,

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Speaker 1: and oh, by the way, stay home. Only two households

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Speaker 1: can celebrate Thanksgiving together in one location. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: wear your mask. In between bites cut to governor, did

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Speaker 1: you go to the French laundry for a party? If

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Speaker 1: then no, no, Oh, well yes I did. He got

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Speaker 1: So that, along with previous things like closing twenty prisons

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Speaker 1: economy here, which were famous for and independent entrepreneurs and

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Speaker 1: so forth. That was horrible. I think the worst thing

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Speaker 1: instability in his decision making. There was no predictability to

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Speaker 1: it at all. I say again, it was political. It's

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Speaker 1: always been political, not policy, and certainly not planned policies.

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Speaker 1: So he's not trustable. He got caught lying. Now, even

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Speaker 1: if he did come up with a fix, I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure people would believe him. One of the things I've

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Speaker 1: gotten really involved in, and we're gonna do several podcasts on,

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Speaker 1: is the scale of the corruption in the unemployment compensation program,

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Speaker 1: where you end up with an estimated thirty two billion

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Speaker 1: prisoners and former prisoners. So it was interesting to me

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Speaker 1: because I've also been working on Washington State, where they

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Speaker 1: had about six hundred million dollars stolen, mostly by a

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Speaker 1: Nigerian gang that is, a cyber gang that file one

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Speaker 1: getting six hundred million dollars. So when I began looking

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Speaker 1: California in some ways as much worse, not only in

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Speaker 1: because the parently is tied directly into crime, into prisoners,

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Speaker 1: and into people who are using the money to go

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Speaker 1: to participate in human trafficking. So how can government get

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Speaker 1: to be that bad? I don't know. Last week they

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Speaker 1: did a raid in Sacramento. There were seventy hundred jobless

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Speaker 1: how hard would that be defined? That's a spreadsheet sort.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, no one's lost their job on this.

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Speaker 1: thirty one billion dollars and not one person says they're sorry.

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Speaker 1: Not one person lost their job. Not only did the

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Speaker 1: person who's in charge of this other than Gavin Newsom

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Speaker 1: not lose her job, but she actually Julie Sue, who's

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Speaker 1: the head of California's Labor Agency and directly in charge

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Speaker 1: has now been nominated by the Biden administration, is Deputy

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Speaker 1: US Secretary of Labor. We can only imagine how much

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Speaker 1: money she's going to lose there if she lost thirty

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Speaker 1: numbers are out of control when you compare it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: just to put it in context, thirty one billion dollars

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Speaker 1: is twenty five percent of our budget. That's ridiculous, and

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Speaker 1: it evaporated and it's unrecoverable. Our environmental protection line item,

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Speaker 1: one percent over twenty twenty one, but it's four hundred

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Speaker 1: Our consumer services in housing is nine hundred and eleven

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Speaker 1: million dollars, and that's thirty times what we spend on

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Speaker 1: our rehabilitation line item. I'm just an angry citizen when

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Speaker 1: final straw for him. I think it's indefensible. You have

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Speaker 1: of the dystopian science fiction novel How do I get

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Speaker 1: to be disbanded? You know, it happened over time, as

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Speaker 1: now Gavin Newsom. I think what you're seeing is a

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Speaker 1: a citizen movement. People are just like you know, Okay,

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Speaker 1: making sure that this state can return back to those days.

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Speaker 1: You know, you have four generations of people, one being

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Speaker 1: the baby boomer generation, largest demographic in our history, and

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Speaker 1: the women in that demographic need one. It was the

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Speaker 1: women that are volunteering professionals, moms, grandmothers, daughters, all age groups,

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Speaker 1: all voter registrations, all voting groups, no party preference, independent, Democrat.

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Speaker 1: We just did an analysis on the signatures we're getting back,

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Speaker 1: mister speaker. It was twenty two percent were no party

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Speaker 1: good for him. You have to have one about a million,

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Speaker 1: five hundred thousand validated signatures one hundred percent ballots. So

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Speaker 1: what you typically do is try to go for one

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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five percent of what you need. That

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Speaker 1: would take what our goal is to one point eight

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Speaker 1: So that's a whole nother message right there. That is

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Speaker 1: where would they go? They would go to Rescue California

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