1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Happy Monday, everybody. 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 2: Welcome to The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. And 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: there's a lot to discuss. As tends to be the 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: case on Mondays, we have some stunning polling about Donald 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: Trump Joe Biden. We're going to dive into that momentarily. 7 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: Are they hitting the panic button over at the DNC 8 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: about Biden's future? Here? Is they have they actually said 9 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: it is time for the break the glass plan? You know? 10 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: Are they getting down to funny? People will say, are 11 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: they at deaf Con five? That would be like no 12 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: big deal? Deaf Con one would be nuclear war the 13 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: really big deal. But are they at like two or 14 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 2: three right now? In terms of the politics here? Are 15 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: they a little concerned about Joe Biden? We shall get 16 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: into that. You also have Gavin new some veto to 17 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 2: Bill on Friday that would take affirmation of child's gender 18 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 2: identity into consideration when making custody and visitation decisions, which 19 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 2: I think is an interesting story we'll get you later. 20 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: He vetered it because he believes it's already taken into account, 21 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: just to be clear. 22 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: So that's why this is on the radar. 23 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: Really interesting study out of or poll out of Rasmus, 24 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: and more than two thirds of American voters are worried 25 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: that their country is turning into a police state. And 26 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: I have a particular view on this, and I think 27 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 2: that in the era of the four simultaneous Trump felony indictments, 28 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: we have to look at this and take this all 29 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: very seriously. But also as individuals and as Americans, this 30 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: is increasingly a reality of day to day life here. 31 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: Crimes that are just crimes because the government says so, 32 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: or because you've upset the politics of the Democrats. That'll 33 00:01:58,520 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: get you in a whole lot of trouble, you know, 34 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: parading inside the Capitol without a license. But the stuff 35 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: that makes everyone's lives difficult and cost lives day to day, 36 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: the crime in cities and towns across America, and the 37 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: criminals who are conducting or committing those acts. Democrats take 38 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: a very different, very different approach to that, at least 39 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: in terms of their philosophy. So we'll get into all that, 40 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 2: but Clay, we've got to start here with these these 41 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 2: these numbers. 42 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's getting down to the wire. I'll say, 43 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: this is getting. 44 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: Down to the wire about how long we can continue 45 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: to have this discussion. Will there be some other plan 46 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 2: to Joe Biden. I'm still at this point. I can't 47 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 2: you know, I can't change my bed, right, So. 48 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 3: It would be it would be totally unacceptable for you 49 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: to just suddenly, after six or eight months or whatever 50 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 3: it is, just to suddenly bail. 51 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 2: That said, there are a lot of people in Democrats 52 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: circles to award. Let's look at these numbers. Clay Washington 53 00:02:54,919 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: Post ABC poll shows Biden trailing Trump nationally by ten points. 54 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: Now this is an outlier. 55 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: There are other national polls that show them effectively tied. Yeah, 56 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: and if you you know, told me, you gotta tell me, 57 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: you know, if I have no choice but to tell 58 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 2: you what the most likely situations right now, I think 59 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 2: it's closer to tide than it is ten points. 60 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: But the fact that there is a serious poll out. 61 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 2: There that could show at this phase a substantial lead 62 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 2: for Donald Trump, I mean, Clay, are really to two 63 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 2: or three points at this point would should scare Democrats, right, 64 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: because what do you think they're making of this? And 65 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: and also the fact that Biden is at a all 66 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 2: time low approval rating thirty seven percent fifty six percent disapproving. 67 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, so again, I would just say when I saw 68 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 3: this come out, I think it came out late Sunday, 69 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 3: Saturday night, like post midnight. I was watching you USC 70 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 3: and Arizona State football late night, like a deviate crazy 71 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 3: college football fan that I am, and I'm scrolling through 72 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 3: my Twitter feed and boom, this Washington Post pole. 73 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: Pops up and I immediately read it. 74 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 2: And what I would say is significant about this buck 75 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: is it feels to me like much of official Washington 76 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: is starting to hit the panic button on Joe Biden. 77 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: Because we've said this before on the show, but I 78 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 2: do think it's important to think about the only rationale 79 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 2: for Joe Biden to run in twenty twenty four is 80 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: that he beat Trump in twenty twenty and they think 81 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: he'll win a rematch. If you told me, and I 82 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 2: understand the Trump people out there who are diehards, if 83 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 2: you told me that it was going to be Nicky 84 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: Haley or Vivey Gramaswami or Ron DeSantis that were going 85 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: to be the nominees, I think Democrats would bail on 86 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: Joe Biden in a hurr, because I think the age 87 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: difference would be so compelling and so overwhelming. Here is 88 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 2: to me when I look at these numbers, I do 89 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 2: think that there probably is. Look, if Trump's gonna win 90 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 2: by ten points, then then look, I would love for 91 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 2: that to happen. 92 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 3: I think there's a zero percent chance by the time 93 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 3: we got to an election that Trump could be Biden 94 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 3: by ten points. I do think what's happening Buck is 95 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 3: right now everything is a referendum on Biden, and the 96 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 3: goal of the Biden administration and the entire twenty twenty 97 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 3: four campaign is going to be to try to make 98 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four a referendum on Trump. And usually what 99 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 3: are elections with incumbents about, Buck the incumbent, right, Usually 100 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 3: it is, hey, has this guy done a good enough 101 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 3: job to continue to be the representative, to continue to 102 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,559 Speaker 3: be the President of the United States, senator, governor whatever 103 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: it is? 104 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: And right now the answer is Biden hasn't done a 105 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: good enough job. 106 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 3: The only they win is if they can make it 107 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 3: a referendum on Trump, because I do believe that they 108 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 3: are confident that they can get a lot of people 109 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 3: to show up and vote against Trump, not for Biden 110 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 3: against Trump. And I think this is one of those 111 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 3: things where you have to go back in and say, 112 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 3: just have you ever seen And I like to ask 113 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 3: this question because I think it's clarifying him anyways, Buck, 114 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 3: you ever see anybody in a Biden hat? You ever 115 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 3: seen anybody walk around in a Biden T shirt? You 116 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 3: ever see anybody who is like a diehard Biden guy 117 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 3: or girl anywhere in the country, because I have it anywhere. 118 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 2: There's a I don't remember his name. There's a comedian 119 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: who has a bit where he says there's no Biden merch, 120 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 2: which is true. Yeah, no one, No one rocks a 121 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: Biden T shirt. Correct, There is no Biden. It's one 122 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 2: hundred percent correct. And so it's not a Biden vote, 123 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 2: it's an anti Trump vote. And so what I wonder, 124 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 2: and this is the thing I've been talking about for 125 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 2: a few months now, is. 126 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 3: At what point point do the Democrat powerbrokers as they 127 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: are Again, the Washington Post had a top columni say 128 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 3: Biden should run. Now they're bringing out a column that 129 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: says Biden is a ten point underdog and a head 130 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 3: to head against Trump. It comes out simultaneously with this, 131 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 3: with this poll from NBC News which shows Biden hitting 132 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 3: an all time low buck. 133 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: I grabbed some of the data. Listen to some of this. 134 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 3: Off of the Washington Post poll because I read it 135 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 3: and I was like, I can't even believe some of 136 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:37,559 Speaker 3: these numbers. Would you describe what your view is as excellent, good, 137 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 3: not so good, or poor? Food prices eight percent said 138 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 3: excellent or good? Gas are energy prices? Twelve percent said 139 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: excellent or good. 140 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 2: Incomes of average Americans twenty one percent said excellent or good. 141 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:54,239 Speaker 1: Uh. 142 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 3: And for Joe Biden, the situation at the border bock 143 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 3: twenty three percent approval twenty three percent. 144 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: That is unbelievable to be that bad. Thirty percent on 145 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: the economy when you look at the numbers that are 146 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 2: really upsetting people here in terms of the economy, I 147 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: saw something today that said it was a stat that 148 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: said that even for people who are making one hundred 149 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: and fifty thousand dollars a year in this country, I 150 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 2: saw that a third of them are living paycheck to paycheck. Yes, 151 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: a third of people making one hundred and fifty grand 152 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: are living paycheck to paycheck. I mean I live paycheck 153 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: to paycheck. When I was making forty grand a year. 154 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: I remember what that was like to be living paycheck 155 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 2: to paycheck at one fifty. Yeah, means that people are 156 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: really feeling the pinch because that's that's energy prices, that's rent, 157 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 2: that's housing, that's you know, they're they're they're not you know, 158 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 2: making the con they're not making reckless decisions. I think 159 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it's just that people are having 160 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: to pay more for the things that they really need. 161 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: Credit Card debt also going up very rapidly right now. 162 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 2: And as a country. I mean someone that I know 163 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: was a Wall Street guy whence told me said, you 164 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: have to remember America is the greatest wealth generation machine 165 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 2: in the history of the planet. Which is which is true. 166 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 2: And it's interesting, right, there's we our economy and the 167 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: productivity of America in general is such that we should 168 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 2: be getting it should be the TV effect, Right, We've 169 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: all seen. 170 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: You look at a TV. You remember your TV when 171 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: you were in college. 172 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: I mean it was like, yeah, weighed like two hundred pounds, 173 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: was like three feet deep. 174 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: You have to kick it if it went. 175 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 3: Now you got to get twenty seven inch TV buck 176 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 3: and we were like, this is livid, large and our 177 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 3: dorm room likes kicking back like this is on how 178 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 3: big the screen is, you know, like at the four 179 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 3: of us to. 180 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: Carry it right? 181 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 2: You know, now you have seventy inch flat flush against 182 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 2: the wall TVs everywhere, and you know they cost like 183 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: you can get them for like four or five hundred 184 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 2: bucks now, I mean they cost very little. And that's 185 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 2: just because things have gotten more efficient, you know, and 186 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 2: less expensive and better. The problem is that some of 187 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 2: these commodities food, energy, there are policy decisions, most notably 188 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: the massive government expenditures and the inflation that it created 189 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 2: that has resulted in this economic pain and there hasn't 190 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 2: been any accountability for it politically. And the Biden administrations, 191 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 2: you know, they just they just declared a whole bunch 192 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 2: of land, you know, off limits to drilling. They're doing 193 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 2: all the wrong things in this environment, Clay. When people 194 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 2: are having a hard time affording groceries and gas, I 195 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: want to say a hard time. Okay, maybe they can 196 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 2: afford it, but they're running up that credit card a 197 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: little more every month, a little more every month. And 198 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 2: for John Kerry to be traveling the world like some 199 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 2: kind of maniac talking about how humanity is going to 200 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 2: cause humanity's extinction because of CO two while he's flying 201 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 2: everywhere on private jets. There is a massive disconnect here 202 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 2: and Republicans need to speak to it. 203 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's why I looked at the nine percent approval. 204 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 3: When it comes to food prices, people understand that. That's 205 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 3: why I keep saying, go through the drive through of 206 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 3: a fast food restaurant and look at what it costs you. Now, 207 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: so when the Biden people are trying to sell well, 208 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 3: inflation is back down to three point seven percent or 209 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 3: whatever the heck it is, and they're trying to say 210 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 3: it's not so bad, the baked in cost is huge. 211 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 3: What you are paying for your groceries, what you are 212 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 3: paying for your fast food meals from one year to 213 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 3: the next to take care of your family. That money 214 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 3: never comes back. And so that is where I think 215 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 3: there's a great deal of anger. Now here's the question, 216 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 3: and this is the one that I keep hammering buck 217 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 3: because I do think it's so interesting of a question. 218 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 3: If sixty some odd percent of Democrat voters are saying 219 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 3: they don't want to vote for Joe Biden, will anyone 220 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 3: we talked about this last week, will any Democrat that 221 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 3: has an existing office, right, somebody who has a platform, 222 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 3: somebody that has an actual audience. 223 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: Will any of them announce they're running? 224 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 3: Because if one person did it, Buck, I think a 225 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 3: bunch more would jump in. And I think Biden would 226 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 3: announce that he's not going to run for reelection in 227 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. I think all it would take is 228 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 3: one person, and I don't know who that person is, 229 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 3: but I think as soon as Biden got challenged by 230 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 3: one guy or girl out there of a substantial nature, 231 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 3: then I think there would be a bunch of people running. 232 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 3: Nobody wants to be the first, but I think there 233 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 3: are a lot of people inching more and more towards 234 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 3: that line. And I think Biden would would announce that 235 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 3: he's not running because I don't think he could win 236 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 3: a contested primary. I really don't. 237 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: I just the timeline here becomes so it's tight now, 238 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: no doubt. And I think also you have to look 239 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: at this as there's all this messaging that has existed 240 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: up to this point. I mean, good old Joe Scarboro 241 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 2: or over at MSNBC. I mean, there's a lot of 242 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 2: people who are saying Biden's fit as a fiddle even 243 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 2: just great, he's fantastic. The hard left turn that you 244 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 2: would have to see here from the entire Democrat media 245 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 2: apparatus suddenly say. 246 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 1: You know what, a primary is a great idea. 247 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 3: Oh no, what they would say, Buck is you know 248 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 3: what Joe Biden, he did everything that I mean, they 249 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 3: would take the tack of they would immediately pivot. 250 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 2: I'm not saying they can't pivot. I'm just saying it 251 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 2: would require a lot of them who have been saying 252 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: Biden's great, he's fantastic to say Biden cares more about 253 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 2: the country than. 254 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: His own you know future? 255 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I just I don't see it. But 256 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: what do you think, folks, anyone out there got a theory? 257 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 2: Eight hundred and two A two two eight eight two. 258 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 2: Take notice of what my cell phone company, Puretalk did 259 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: this summer for all the new customers alike. 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If 279 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: you wonder what it's like to have no gaggeryflex, this 280 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: is what it sounds like sometimes when you go on 281 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 2: MSNBC and you decide that you have to praise Joe 282 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: Biden to the ends of the earth. This is what 283 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: Democrat strategist Cornell Belcher had to say about Joe Biden 284 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: being way better positioned than Obama. 285 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: And he has a great story to tell about his 286 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: old age. Listen If you look at. 287 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 4: Where Biden is right now, he's not that dramatically different 288 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 4: from where the you know the President campaign. 289 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: Who I worked on was at this time going in. 290 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 4: Twenty eleven, right Obama was running behind Mitt Romney. In 291 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 4: a lot of ways, Biden is even better positioned than 292 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 4: Obama was in a story that he has to tell 293 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 4: because he does have a story to tell about regardless 294 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 4: about his old age. You know, you know what his 295 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 4: aige and wisdom has been able to do. It's been 296 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 4: able to move transformative pieces of legislation that no president 297 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 4: has ever been able to do before. 298 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 3: Okay, Buck, you said, will the chattering class you know 299 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 3: have to chip? They'll just they have no shame. I mean, 300 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 3: to go on and argue that Joe Biden is better 301 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 3: positioned and has a better story and his age is 302 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 3: not a factor than Obama would be is pretty crazy. 303 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 3: I mean, you can dislike Obama. He was a really 304 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 3: talented politician and also he wasn't eighty. 305 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 2: I just I really feel like we are moving rapidly 306 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 2: towards a oh crap moment for Biden, and it may 307 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 2: be something that he does publicly that finally brings it 308 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: into full full discussion. It just feels like deja vu 309 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: to me, though, because I was among those who in 310 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 2: twenty twenty during the primary for Democrats was saying, I mean, 311 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 2: there's no way it could be Biden, like that guy's 312 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 2: a joke, and here we are so and people said, oh, 313 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 2: he's gonna have a malfunction on stage and everyone's gonna 314 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 2: see it, and he didn't, and here we are. So. 315 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 2: I don't want to run the same run the same 316 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 2: playbook here and think that the result necessarily is going 317 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: to be different, or use the same analytic framework that 318 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 2: all said, Look, it's it's pretty much ready to go. 319 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 2: If Joe Biden decides to step down for any kind 320 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 2: of a health reason, it would have to be I 321 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: think the question just becomes to they think that they 322 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 2: could make Kamala Harris, you know, could she win if 323 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 2: she were president? She stepped into the role. That's where 324 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 2: all the anxiety comes from. This wouldn't even be a 325 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 2: discussion otherwise. 326 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 3: But don't you think he's objectively worse than he was 327 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty? 328 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 2: Though? 329 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: When you hear him talk, of course, I mean way worse, right, 330 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: I think he's objectively worse. 331 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 2: I also think that the Democrats are all of their 332 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: hopes are pinned onto this. He's running against Donald Trump, 333 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 2: who is the most polarizing in their minds, politician of 334 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 2: our lifetime, who is facing four criminal indictments. 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One 362 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 2: of them is primary hasn't really been a whole lot 363 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 2: of anything these days on the Republican side. We're not 364 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 2: hearing much about RFK Junior either. On the Democrat side, 365 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 2: he had a moment, for sure, but the numbers aren't 366 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 2: really budging. On the Republican side, you can say Trump 367 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 2: is up roughly fifty points. 368 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that's effectively. 369 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 2: That's kind of the back of the Napkin math average 370 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 2: that I would give it, and that doesn't look like 371 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 2: it's something that's likely to I think it's highly unlikely 372 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 2: that that would change anytime soon. So that allows us 373 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 2: to focus kind of earlier than we had anticipated. It's 374 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 2: almost like, you know, if You're going into a tennis 375 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 2: major and you think you're going to have a couple 376 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 2: of really tough matches to watch in the semis and 377 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 2: the you know, the quarters in the semis, and you 378 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 2: have like two players pull out for injuries. And now 379 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 2: we've been sitting around like, yeah, that the final is 380 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 2: going to be amazing because there's really not a whole 381 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 2: lot to get into in the primary at this stage. 382 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 2: That may change. There is a Fox Business Fox Business 383 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 2: Channel debate on Wednesday, which we'll be talking to you 384 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 2: a lot about this week. Look, it's interesting to have 385 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 2: these discussions about what's happening policy wise. We're getting to 386 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 2: know some of the future I think of the Republican 387 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 2: Party politically, regardless of the outcome of twenty twenty four. 388 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 2: But back to Biden's stuff for a second year, Clay, 389 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 2: we didn't play this right about the sixty percent of 390 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 2: Democrat primary voters. Now sometimes forget this, Yeah, sixty percent 391 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 2: of Democrat primary voters this cut three say well, I'll 392 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: let you hear what they say. 393 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:41,959 Speaker 1: Play it. 394 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 5: We asked primary voters on the Democratic side, do you 395 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 5: want options next year besides Biden? Fifty nine percent said yes, 396 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 5: they do This is not a normal number for an incumbent. 397 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 5: We asked the same question a year before Donald Trump 398 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 5: sought reelection of Republics only thirty seven percent on in 399 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 5: more choices then as a very high number. It raises 400 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 5: the question to what else concerns Democrats? And I think 401 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 5: this gets to sort of the elephant in the room here, 402 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 5: Biden's age and fitness. Almost three out of four in 403 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 5: our poll. This is Democrats, Republicans, independents say it's a 404 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 5: major or moderate concern for them. 405 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, this is why, Buck. 406 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 3: Let's pretend we're evil geniuses, all right, We're evil Democrat geniuses, 407 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 3: and all we want is for. 408 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: Our guy or our girl to. 409 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 3: End up president of the United States. This is the argument, 410 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 3: like I just keep coming back to in my head, Buck, 411 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 3: if you, let's say you are Let's use Pritzker, this 412 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 3: billionaire governor of Illinois. Right, he has all the money 413 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 3: he could possibly need. He's already been elected twice now, 414 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 3: so he's, you know, serving out his final term. If 415 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 3: he wants to be president of the United States, then 416 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 3: his platform is Okay, you wait and you. 417 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: Run in twenty eight. 418 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 3: But if you wait and run in twenty eight then 419 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 3: you have to somehow get over and past Kamala Harris 420 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 3: in the identity politics Leyden Democrat primary, and she's a 421 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 3: black woman and you're a white guy. It's actually easier 422 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 3: to run against the old white guy and win the 423 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 3: nomination when there's only a couple of people potentially running 424 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 3: to me in twenty four than it would be to 425 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 3: win as a white guy running against a black woman 426 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 3: as the favorite when there might be twenty Democrats that 427 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 3: are running in twenty eight. I look at everything from 428 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 3: a game theory and probability perspective. If your goal is 429 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 3: to be president of the United States, there's actually a 430 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 3: huge advantage for Democrats to move. And you can point 431 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 3: two polls like these which say, hey, sixty percent of 432 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 3: Democrats want somebody else. Now, maybe you lose, And then 433 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 3: your concern is, oh, you've upset people in the DNC 434 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 3: everything else. And I get that if you're not independently wealthy. 435 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 3: But if you're a billionaire like Pritzker, why do you care, Like, 436 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 3: if you want to be president of the United States, 437 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 3: go for it. 438 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 2: Well, I think that he will run in the next cycle, 439 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 2: and why not run at this phase because he won't 440 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 2: even with a billion Look, Mike Bloomberg was a billionaire 441 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 2: and he tried as a Republican and he got nowhere. Okay, 442 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 2: so just having the money to run and spend doesn't 443 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 2: mean a darn thing. Jeb exclamation point, spend one hundred 444 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 2: million dollars and got a delegate. 445 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: If we all recall what. 446 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 2: Happened back in twenty sixteen, it was a very expensive 447 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 2: exclamation point. So what you see here, I think is 448 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 2: Democrats are circling in case that you know, the party machinery. 449 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: Would have to make this decision. 450 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 2: You know, the Obama advisors we've talked about, the people 451 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 2: in the White House were running the day to day, 452 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:56,719 Speaker 2: they would have to make this decision. 453 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. 454 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 2: And I've seen that even Democrats admitting that they don't 455 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 2: think that Joe Biden will step down under any circumstances whatsoever. Yeah, 456 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 2: this is who Joe Biden is. Look at we talk 457 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 2: about the fetterman effective fair amount, right, which I think 458 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 2: was something we've coined here on the show, which is 459 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 2: people will vote for somebody no matter how incompetent or 460 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 2: how incapable of doing the job they are, if they're 461 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 2: the right party. Look at Feinstein, though Feinstein held on 462 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 2: to that job Clay to the point where you know, 463 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,479 Speaker 2: it's just, yeah, she's now gone. I mean you know 464 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 2: she's mentally gone. Effectively, she cannot function and needs round 465 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 2: the clock care. She never resigned, She never said I've 466 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 2: had too much. So I don't think Joe Biden, while 467 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 2: he's a president, while he's in the Oval office, is 468 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 2: going to decide on his own so what half to 469 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 2: the machinery around him. The reason I think that Pritzker 470 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 2: and others don't necessarily get into it is they know 471 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 2: there's a lot that goes into running that if all 472 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 2: this stuff is against you, you're not going to be 473 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 2: able to make a dent. You know, if the Democrat 474 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 2: machinery at the DNC, if all the networks, if all 475 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 2: the newspapers think that. You look what they've done to 476 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 2: RFK Junior. Yeah, they've treated him like an evil Republican, 477 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,479 Speaker 2: which is funny because he actually is a Democrat. 478 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: If you listen to him, he's just really good on. 479 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 3: COVID and now he's talking about running as and also 480 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 3: the border. He came out and said we have to 481 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 3: solve everything going on the border. Now RFK Junior is 482 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 3: talking about running as a libertarian, which would actually be 483 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 3: I think harmful to Trump more so than it would 484 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 3: be harmful too. 485 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 2: And the other part of it too. Yeah, you know, 486 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 2: we're making this assumption. We're so early on in this process. 487 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 2: And like I said, if you had told us a 488 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,239 Speaker 2: year ago, Hey, Buck Clay, what do you guys get 489 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 2: to be talking about September of twenty twenty three, be like, oh, man, 490 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 2: you know who's getting ahead in this state or that 491 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 2: state in the Republican primary. We didn't think it would 492 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 2: just be like Trump is lapping the competition. You know, 493 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 2: if you watch Formula one. I mean they have to 494 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 2: get out of the way because he's just going faster 495 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: and faster all the time. So that means that there 496 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 2: is a little bit more of a focus on the 497 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 2: future of things. I did think this was kind of 498 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 2: this was kind of a moment. Do we have Scarborough 499 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 2: talking about why there's anti Kamala Harris chatter? 500 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,239 Speaker 1: Right now? You see, Oh we do it, We do 501 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: have this. Did you see this one, Claire? 502 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? 503 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that this Scarborough is also has no 504 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 2: gag reflex like Kamla. So here here is Joe Scarborough 505 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 2: calling out the real reason that people don't like Kamala Harris. 506 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: He says, play clip five, But it's always like Kama, 507 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: what about Kamala? What about her? Well, there's sort of this. 508 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 6: Undercurrent like she's black and she's a woman, and that's 509 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 6: what people don't like her because she's a vice president 510 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:36,959 Speaker 6: and what are we going to do? 511 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: We need to change her? 512 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 6: And I just go, where were you when dan quill 513 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 6: was vice president? And let me tell you she you 514 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 6: talked about David Nations. Obviously, David is not writing this 515 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 6: because she's a black woman. David David is hearing this 516 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 6: because everybody else is worried that she's a black woman 517 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 6: somehow and they're not. Then America is not going to 518 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 6: vote for a black woman first. 519 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 2: Like it's amazing to see what is to me the 520 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 2: opposite of reality. Kamala Harris's greatest political assets are that 521 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 2: she is a woman and she is a minority. 522 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 7: Those are the Joe Biden, when he was picking a 523 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 7: Supreme Court justice, declared he would only pick a black 524 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 7: female Supreme Court justice. Joe Biden, when he was picking 525 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 7: a vice president, effectively declared we all knew he's gonna 526 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 7: have a woman, and if you could a woman who's 527 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 7: a minority. So the notion that this is some tremendous obstacle, 528 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 7: now is this completely crazy to me. 529 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: I used to hear this play during the Obama years. 530 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 2: Two people would say, all the reagion Obama's poll numbers 531 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 2: are low is because of racism in this country. And 532 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 2: I said him, like, Obama won two terms. Obama absolutely 533 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 2: annihilated both Republicans that he ran against and actually had 534 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 2: a really weak economy, but still won in reelection, and 535 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 2: everybody was celebrating, particularly his first term, that he's the 536 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 2: first black prest as in of America. And we're told 537 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 2: that the bad poll numbers at any time are because 538 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 2: of racism. Are we really going to play this game? 539 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 2: Joe Scarborough's playing this game with Kamala well. 540 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 3: And again this is what I think will become a 541 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 3: major talking point in twenty twenty eight. 542 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: That's looking toward the future. 543 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 3: Which is why when I see now this opportunity to 544 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 3: run against an old white guy, the game theory of me, 545 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 3: probability analysis of me just says, now is the time 546 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 3: to go by the way too circling you start off 547 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 3: the segment, it is so weird that Gavin Newsom wants 548 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 3: to debate Ron DeSantis. Let's not underrate how crazy this is. 549 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: Why is it? I don't think it's weird at all. 550 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: Why do you think this is weird? 551 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 2: In the middle on November thirtieth, six weeks before the 552 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 2: first votes are cast in in January, that he wants 553 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 2: to have a debate against a Republican primary contender. 554 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: And he's just a random governor of California. He's not a. 555 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 2: Random governor's Eric is suavest, most handsome governor, six foot. 556 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:03,719 Speaker 1: Four of people. 557 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 3: What I'm saying is I love I love the Gavin 558 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 3: Newsome voiceover because I really do think I'm a miss 559 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 3: Keanu Reeves now. But it's like he's circling desperately trying 560 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 3: to get called up playing you know you ever watched 561 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 3: on the sideline? 562 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 2: Yeah but Clay, Yeah, yeah, yes, I know what you 563 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 2: mean in the sideline. 564 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: But because you're hoping the coach sees you. 565 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: Are such a few teams I played on, I was like, 566 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 2: maybe he'll put me in a little if I stand 567 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 2: closer to the coach on the sideline. 568 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, does not work. Does not work? 569 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, unfortunately play These people are narcissists at a level 570 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 2: that is hard for normal people to comprehend. Gavin Newsome, 571 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 2: he's a very rich guy. 572 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: You know. He's a powerful guy. 573 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 2: State of California's fifth largest economy in the world. 574 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: He runs it. 575 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom, the only thing that gets this guy excited 576 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 2: is power and attention. 577 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: That's it. 578 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 2: Those are the only things that get this guy excited 579 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 2: that he, even not running, would be able to be 580 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 2: on this national stage and make the case he is 581 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 2: setting the stage to be the leader of the Democrat 582 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 2: Party going forward, more even than just being a candidate 583 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty eight, he is setting the stage to 584 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 2: be the standard bearer. And so for him, I think, 585 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 2: I mean it makes Yeah, you're right, it's weird under 586 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 2: normal political circumstances, but no one cares about the primary 587 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 2: right now. On the Republican side, well, I think it's 588 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 2: going to be so fascinating to watch. 589 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: You're right, But. 590 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 3: If Biden is there's one hundred percent chance, in my opinion, 591 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 3: that Gavin Newsom secretly hopes Trump wins, because then that 592 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 3: kneecaps Kamala and twenty twenty eight is totally a free 593 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 3: reign right, you can look at because if Biden wins, 594 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 3: let's presume that Biden actually manages to finish his term, 595 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 3: which I question whether he'd be able to do purely 596 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 3: from a health perspective. I don't understand how any of 597 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 3: these white guys are going to be able to get 598 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 3: past Kamala Harris based on the whole sexist and racist 599 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 3: aspects of identity politics which have taken over the Democrat Party. 600 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 3: That's what I that's what I can't like. I think 601 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 3: they're more blocked in twenty eight than they would be 602 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 3: in twenty four. 603 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 2: I also think that, well, the numbers for Kamala look 604 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 2: look pretty bad if she were to be in a 605 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 2: matchup against against Trumps. 606 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: That brings us here. 607 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 2: But you know, there there is a little bit of 608 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 2: a wild card situation where you mentioned third party candidate 609 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 2: that could change everything, and that's very easy, very possible 610 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 2: that could happen. And then beyond that, the four indictments 611 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 2: against Trump, you know, I don't, I don't. 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We're going 645 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,959 Speaker 3: to talk about some of the things that Senator Robert 646 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 3: Menindez said spoiler alert, he's refusing to step down despite 647 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 3: the fact that he and his wife have been arrested 648 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 3: on multiple felony charges related to bribery. 649 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: I spend a lot of time over the weekend. 650 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 3: I wanted to read up on this, and so I've 651 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 3: got some interesting analysis and I just keep coming back 652 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 3: to how similar it all is to exactly what Hunter 653 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 3: Biden did. 654 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: But we have a bunch of people who want to 655 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: weigh in. 656 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 3: So far on the first part of the show, Let's 657 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 3: start in Cavalier, North Dakota, James, what you got for us? 658 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 8: They Yeah, they've panted ourselves into a corner with Kamala. 659 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 8: She's a historic figure, she's a woman of color. And 660 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 8: if they throw her away and put somebody else in there, 661 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 8: I think they're gonna reach the will winds. 662 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: I thank you for the call, Buck. This is what 663 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: we talked about. 664 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 2: This is why I can't be It can't be Gavin Newsome. 665 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 2: You know, pair of drops in from on high and 666 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 2: take so it can't happen. 667 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,919 Speaker 3: Well, this is why I would rather if I were 668 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 3: Pritzker or Gavin Newsom or any other white guy, I 669 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 3: would rather take on Joe Biden in twenty four. I 670 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 3: mean then I would Comela in twenty eight because there'd 671 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 3: be fewer people running. And Clayton, you eliminate the race 672 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 3: and sex angle from the perspective of that individual. That 673 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 3: might make you know. 674 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 2: I could see that, and I did say that they 675 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 2: are total egomaniacs, which yeah, I will recall that that 676 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 2: is true and that is real. But you know you'd 677 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 2: be seen as a spoiler. Yeah, imagine if you do that. 678 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 2: Imagine you're Pritzker, you run against Biden, you spend one 679 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 2: hundred two hundred million dollars of your own money running 680 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 2: a primary against Biden in a condensed period of time. 681 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 2: And then for some reason and Donald Trump ends up 682 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 2: beating Biden by just the small the smallest margin you 683 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 2: know there will be. And you got to remember, when 684 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 2: you're a billionaire democrat, you know what, you really care 685 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 2: about what people say about you. 686 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: I just I get that. I don't. 687 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 3: This is the thing that gets me so fired up. 688 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 3: Am I Buck just the weirdest person on the planet. 689 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 3: I don't care what people say about me? 690 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: Now he didn't let me answer. 691 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 2: That was if I were a billionaire, the idea that 692 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 2: I would sit around worrying about what people said about me. 693 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 2: I just I don't get this this compulsion to really 694 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 2: be that concerned about it. Yeah, well, there are a 695 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 2: lot of people who are very wealthy and very concerned 696 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 2: with what other people think. That's that's a common a 697 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 2: common reality. Unfortunately, so and just I can't imagine being 698 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 2: so rich like that, like JB. 699 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: Pritzber. 700 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,760 Speaker 2: I mean imagine you're Prinsker though Clay, and the narrative 701 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 2: turns into you cost Joe Biden the the you know, 702 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 2: the in directionist Donald Trump blah, blah blah is president 703 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 2: because of you. It ruins you for the next time. 704 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,240 Speaker 2: It ruins your reputation. So it's not like it's cost free. 705 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 2: Look what they've done that they're interviewing random members of 706 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 2: RFK Junior's family. You're like, hey, you know, do you 707 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 2: hate your like second cousin. They're like, yes, we hate him. 708 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 2: Like it was horrible, but that is very funny. 709 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 3: It is very funny to like go interview other members 710 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 3: of the Kennedy family to get him to take shots 711 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 3: at RFKS. You know, that makes me want to vote 712 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 3: for him more honestly. All right, we come back this 713 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:39,720 Speaker 3: this ridiculousness surrounding Menendez, gold bars, Mercedes, four hundred thousand 714 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 3: dollars in envelopes, you know who. It reminds me of 715 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,399 Speaker 3: Buck Hunter Biden. Let's talk about it.