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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson. And Matt we now know when training

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Speaker 2: camp will start.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right right around the corner here. It's kind of

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Speaker 3: always a nice sign to know that, you know it's

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Speaker 3: all set up, we know how it's gonna work. We're

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Speaker 3: gonna be out there and the sun and watching practice

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Speaker 3: and doing all that stuff, and then the season's upon us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so camp will we'll players will report Wednesday, July

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Speaker 2: twenty fourth, okay, and then the first open practice for

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Speaker 2: the public will be Thursday, July twenty fifth, ten three

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Speaker 2: am in the morning. Yeah. Say the times have changed, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: a little difference here. The weekend practices are still going

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Speaker 2: to be at two o'clock in the afternoon.

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Speaker 3: That's how they were last year, right, But yes, yeah.

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Speaker 2: The midweek practices where the weekday practices are all going

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Speaker 2: to be at ten thirty am. They've what they've done

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Speaker 2: is they flip flop. They're flip flopping. They would always

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Speaker 2: do a walk through in the morning morning, right, and

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Speaker 2: then a full practice in the afternoon. So what they're

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Speaker 2: doing now is they're going to do the full practice

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Speaker 2: in the morning and the walkthrough is going to be

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Speaker 2: in the afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean obviously that's a big deal to our

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Speaker 3: listeners in terms of, right, if you're gonna go, if

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Speaker 3: you're gonna go, maybe you spend the night before and

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Speaker 3: then go to practice then go home, or maybe you

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Speaker 3: do that and then you golf in the afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Or because the walkthrough is not open to the public.

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Speaker 3: Then you wouldn't want to see it anyway, No, I

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Speaker 3: believe it or not. It's not that exciting. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: so there is a practice in the morning, which will

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Speaker 3: be fun, and then campus will be quiet from that

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Speaker 3: point on. Make your travel and all that stuff accordingly,

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Speaker 3: and you better get on now because I'm sure those

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Speaker 3: hotels get booked, yell, if you spend the night. Do

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Speaker 3: you know why they did it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a coaching thing, but I think it

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Speaker 2: was something to do, you know, with kind of the

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Speaker 2: heat of the afternoon, just a concession to the players,

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Speaker 2: like yeah, yeah, you know, we're gonna be on the

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Speaker 2: field one way or the other. So let's do the

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Speaker 2: let's do the heavy lifting in the morning when it's

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Speaker 2: just a little bit cooler. They used to do this

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Speaker 2: all the time. It used to be when they would

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Speaker 2: would still have to a day practices. They would have

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Speaker 2: an early I want to say, it was like a

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Speaker 2: nine a m. Practice and then you know, you'd have

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Speaker 2: your your lunch and everything meetings, and then the afternoon

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Speaker 2: practice would take But we could go, you know, reporters,

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Speaker 2: we could go to both practices because they were open,

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Speaker 2: you know, and there were no fans for the morning

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Speaker 2: practices at that point that they were still only for

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Speaker 2: the afternoon. The the interesting thing about this, Matt's going

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Speaker 2: to be how you're getting how you're getting all the

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Speaker 2: fans out of there after the morning practice.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean they do linger and they get autographs

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Speaker 3: and they're welcome to hang for a while.

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Speaker 2: Right Yeah. I mean, you know, we did our show

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Speaker 2: last year until six o'clock.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we were on the air from what three to six?

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Speaker 2: Three to six, and when we finished at six, there

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Speaker 2: were still fans on campus.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, a lt. I mean they there was even

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Speaker 3: players on the field till five thirty forty five. Times

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Speaker 3: they're doing extra work, then they're signing. Then sometimes their

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Speaker 3: families come down on the field, which if you haven't

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Speaker 3: like some of these players with their toddlers running around

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Speaker 3: their midfield is really cool, you know, and doing this

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Speaker 3: stuff extra and in addition to that, and many of

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Speaker 3: them are generous with their time and signings and talking

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Speaker 2: And you can get pretty darn close. So yeah, I

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Speaker 2: just wonder, go, I just wonder how that's going to work.

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Speaker 2: You know, at what point are the fans?

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Speaker 3: How long can they linger?

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Speaker 2: How long can they linger? I'm just looking here at

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Speaker 2: the story that we have up on Last Tom written

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Speaker 2: by Teresa Varley here, and it really doesn't say I

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Speaker 2: get that. Will all these things that come out here,

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Speaker 2: you know, over the next few weeks. The weekend practices, however, yes,

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Speaker 3: I bet they're packed. They will be they are anyway, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but they will be unbelievably packed. I mean, that's a

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Speaker 2: So and then you got the Friday night Lights practice

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Speaker 2: will be Friday, August second. That's at seven o'clock at

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Speaker 2: Latrobe Memorial Stadium.

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Speaker 3: So that's a little more than a week into when yeah,

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Speaker 3: when when they get going.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because they start they're starting in the middle of

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Speaker 2: on a Thursday. They weren't gonna have Friday Night Lights

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Speaker 2: the next day. You're still in heat, acclamation and all

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Speaker 3: The declamations. Three practices, I think it's two two, Okah,

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Speaker 3: I couldn't remember. So practices probably start Saturday or Sunday. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: I mean that's when people.

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Speaker 2: That works out well, it works out well in regards

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Speaker 2: with that. Then you know they're they're out there. You

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Speaker 2: got your the Friday night light practice, you get the

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Speaker 2: two practices that following day, Saturday and Sunday. They're off

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Speaker 2: Monday practice Tuesday Monday.

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Speaker 3: I just urge people sometimes there's a misconception amongst fans

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Speaker 3: that they practice every day. There are some off days you.

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Speaker 2: Have to have for the CDA, you have to have

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Speaker 3: Because I've seen I've been up there on off days

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Speaker 3: as of you, and sometimes fans show up like when's practice,

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Speaker 3: Like they're so practice practice, drive all the way up

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Speaker 3: here for no reason. I always feel so bad.

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Speaker 2: I would suggest that people get you know, go to

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Speaker 2: Steelers dot com and check out that schedule. It's it's

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Speaker 2: it's it's on. It's it's on there.

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Speaker 3: Rain and things can change that.

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Speaker 2: That's yeah. I think that's another reason to to kind

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Speaker 2: of move the It doesn't seem to rain as much

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Speaker 2: in the morning there as it does in the afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I've noticed that too.

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Speaker 3: I mean just the way the hillside, I mean the

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Speaker 2: It doesn't it does.

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Speaker 3: It does seem to have a better chance of clear weather. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So August fourth, they have a Sunday practice. They're

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Speaker 2: because typically you get a day there's a day off before.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, is that home I can't remember.

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Speaker 2: That is a home game against the Houston Texans, you know,

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Speaker 2: on Friday, August ninth.

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Speaker 3: Then obviously they won't put I mean they're not that

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Speaker 3: practice will probably be light or very young.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, bottom the.

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Speaker 3: Roster type guys, you know, draft picks. So it sounds

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Speaker 3: like the first Friday is the day after the report,

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Speaker 3: the next Friday is Friday Night lights, and then the next.

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Speaker 2: Day next Friday is a game. It's a game, okay, wow,

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Speaker 2: I mean you're right into it.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's one of the reasons why we

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Speaker 2: didn't talk much about this because I was off that week.

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Speaker 2: But the the nfl PA put out there that they're

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Speaker 2: they want to then get rid of the OT sessions

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Speaker 2: you're off, you have your OTA sessions, then you're off

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Speaker 2: for like a month. Yeah, you come back, you have

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Speaker 2: like twelve practice, not even twelve practice. What have we

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Speaker 2: got there before? They they have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve. No,

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Speaker 2: I was right, thirteen practices and then you play a

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Speaker 2: first preseason game.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't thinking there's that many, Okay, I mean.

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Speaker 2: It's thirteen practices really and those first couple of practices

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Speaker 2: as we mentioned, or heat acclamation.

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Speaker 3: That's one thing about the proposition that I thought maybe

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Speaker 3: the heat acquisition stuff could go away because you've been doing.

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Speaker 2: You've been doing it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, when training camp is officially training camp, you

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Speaker 3: could be in PAD day one probably right right. I

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Speaker 3: still don't quite understand the player's logic behind.

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Speaker 2: It, though, Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It seems like a really long time right grinding, you know.

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Speaker 2: I think they want more time off after the season,

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously their summer would be longer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you get six to eight weeks off

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Speaker 2: after the season where there's nothing going going on. The

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Speaker 3: But here's the thing, and then there's a stretch now

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Speaker 3: on vacation, right, still pretty large.

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Speaker 2: You know, back in the pre OTA days, and there

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Speaker 2: to like two thousand, but back in those days, you know,

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Speaker 2: and I was covering the team back then, you would

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Speaker 2: game of the season, you wouldn't see the players again

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Speaker 2: until Mini camp, right, and they might be not great

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Speaker 2: training camp a little bit longer, Right.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't think players would want that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I just still don't quite understand the logic.

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Speaker 2: But I think they feel like and I think what

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Speaker 2: the things that they're talking about, those would still be optional,

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Speaker 2: you know though those workouts in June and.

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Speaker 3: Even os or voluntary to some degree. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: just I'm just trying to think of it from a

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Speaker 3: human aspect. I mean a lot of these guys don't

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Speaker 3: Maybe it gets old to fly in for three days,

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Speaker 3: fly back home and you know, I don't know, it

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Speaker 3: doesn't sound that incomedient though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't imagine the coaches would want because coaches

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Speaker 2: coaches basically take they they once they once mini camp

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Speaker 2: is over, that's the only time. That's the only time

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Speaker 2: that the coaches get from the time that Mini camp

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Speaker 2: ends until the start of the season or training camp.

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Speaker 2: That's their vacation time, right, because everything leading up to that.

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Speaker 2: As soon as your season's over, you start evaluating draft

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Speaker 2: picks and breaking down film of last season.

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Speaker 3: You know, the players are gone, they're not breaking down

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Speaker 3: film right stuff, They're doing things on their own. The

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Speaker 3: all that. Right, So he's definitely harder on the staff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about it. Yeah, And so you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how doing that for those guys is

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly. He is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson. And Matt I'm looking here at a

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Speaker 3: So does Diggs and Shroud qualify?

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Speaker 3: No before we dig in. Yeah, history shows that veteran

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Speaker 2: So the number twelve pairing on here is bo Nicks

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Speaker 3: I don't know that offense is going to be all

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Speaker 2: Right that he doesn't want you find he's not making

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Speaker 2: Number ten is Russell Wilson and George Pickens. Makes sense.

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Speaker 2: I think I think at this point in their careers.

440
00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,200
Speaker 2: So I think Dy he's a more dangerous receiver than Hopkins.

441
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:03,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think they want readily to be

442
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:04,600
Speaker 3: the leading receiver.

443
00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but talks with Hopkins. Here's the thing with Hopkins

444
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:13,199
Speaker 2: in a young quarterback, is the young quarterback going to

445
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,160
Speaker 2: trust right that Hopkins is open when he's not open?

446
00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 2: Because that's that's the case with Hopkins. He's not a

447
00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,200
Speaker 2: guy that gets separation like Kyler. You got to trust

448
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:22,720
Speaker 2: his career.

449
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. At least Levison and played together last year. Yeah,

450
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,840
Speaker 3: I mean, so there's familiar they are, and I'm sure

451
00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 3: at dinner Hopkins is like, just put it in the air, dude.

452
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 2: But I think back to the game that that Hopkins

453
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,880
Speaker 2: had against the Steelers, but that Levis started, I think

454
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,880
Speaker 2: he had like two catches on him, was on him

455
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,120
Speaker 2: and Lewis just you know, it was like five targets.

456
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is hard for a rookie to just let

457
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 3: it fly and trust trust.

458
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 2: Number seven is Caleb Williams and Roma Dunezier. You knew

459
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 2: that was coming, and you knew that was coming. I

460
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 2: don't know why it's number seven on this list because

461
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 2: of dounezay Is projected receiving sets fifty six catches, eight

462
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 2: hundred and four yards, five touchdowns. He's the number three

463
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 2: receiver in that offense. Yeah, I think he will be two.

464
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,880
Speaker 3: I guess it's to be determined when there's two receivers

465
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 3: out there, will it be a Doonsay or Allen? But

466
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,160
Speaker 3: I bet it's all I'll bet it's Allen. Yeah. Yeah,

467
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,120
Speaker 3: they will play plenty of eleven. I think he's gonna

468
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,439
Speaker 3: have a lot like a Smith Nijigli rookie year, right,

469
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 3: which isn't really the receiver's fault. You're just in a

470
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 3: tough situation right right now.

471
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I don't know why that one's number

472
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 2: seven on this list.

473
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,200
Speaker 3: I mean, it's fun to watch first overall pick throwing

474
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,360
Speaker 3: the ninth overall pick. That's cool, But I don't think

475
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,360
Speaker 3: in the end that's that's what's one for next year.

476
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:43,159
Speaker 2: Number six Jayden Daniels and Terry McLaurin. I'm cool with that.

477
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 2: Mclaurin's projected stats seventy nine catches, one seventy four yards,

478
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:49,879
Speaker 2: six touchdowns.

479
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 3: That sounds about right. I think that's about what we

480
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 3: should expect for him. I think he's a really good player.

481
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 3: It probably won't happen day one, but I think Daniels

482
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 3: could quickly be I'm the best guy mclaurin's ever caught

483
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 3: passes from. Yeah, I mean it's a rough list.

484
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 2: It really is. Yeah, it really is number five Josh Allen, Keon.

485
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 3: Coleman, the Allen part's fun.

486
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. Coleman's projected stats sixty one catches, eight hundred and

487
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 2: twenty six yards, five touchdowns. We really think key On

488
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 2: Coleman's going to catch more passes than George Pickens.

489
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 3: Well, no, I think the Pickings stuffs way too long.

490
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 2: I mean Coleman's Coleman is clearly going to be the

491
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 2: number two guys at best in that Offhnking, k Henking, Kate,

492
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 2: I think so too.

493
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,919
Speaker 3: And Cook's gonna catch going to catch the ball. Curtis

494
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:38,400
Speaker 3: Samuel isn't terrible, right, Here's a decent player. In fact,

495
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 3: I would be over on touchdowns on five, but I'm

496
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 3: not on receptions or yards.

497
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 2: I bet Khalil Shakir finishes with morph catches than Keon Coleman.

498
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 3: I think that's very fair. I think he's a breakout candidate.

499
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they know it's year three. Yeah, he started showing

500
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 2: some signs last year.

501
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we know that they had a big

502
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 3: receiver need. They had they know they had a big

503
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 3: receiver need, and they took Cole. But before that, Davis

504
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,919
Speaker 3: and Diggs were already gone. Yeah, you're only going to

505
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 3: add one dude in the draft. Had a lot of

506
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 3: faith in Shakir so right, learn again, read the tea

507
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 3: leaves of what these teams are telling you, and he's

508
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:11,880
Speaker 3: ready for a breakout.

509
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,959
Speaker 2: Number four JJ McCarthy and Justin Jefferson.

510
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 3: Kay, I don't know why McCarthy gets on the field though.

511
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 2: Now I don't know either. But Jefferson's projected stats one

512
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 2: hundred and five catches, one five seventy yards and seven touchdowns,

513
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 2: which is low for him. It's low for him. That's

514
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 2: going to be a lot though, coming from a rookie quarterback.

515
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, who I think he's going to get a thirty

516
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 3: percent target share, which is massive, you know, I mean

517
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 3: the money talks.

518
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 2: I mean we're talking about a quarterback though it threw

519
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 2: the ball twenty times a game in college last year.

520
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 3: Right, they're going to become run heavy, but Hawkinson probably

521
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,479
Speaker 3: won't be around for well into the season. It might

522
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 3: be two months, who knows. I don't think the targets

523
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 3: will be a problem, but the on target situation could

524
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 3: be a problem, you know. I mean, is he going

525
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 3: to give him football consistently? And again, I think Donald

526
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 3: starts the season there. I think Donald and Brisett will

527
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 3: be starters ahead of the rookies.

528
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 2: McCarthy's the first top ten quarterback in the draft with

529
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 2: no seasons of three thousand passing yards or five or

530
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 2: five hundred rushing yards in college. Wow.

531
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 3: I mean he came out young. He could have went back,

532
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 3: but that's still ungodly low.

533
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

534
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 3: Wow. Anyone national championship.

535
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 2: Anyone in national championship. Number three on this list, Kirk

536
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 2: Cousins and Drake London. London's are projected stats eighty five catches,

537
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 2: twelve hundred and fourteen yards, six touchdowns.

538
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 3: That's where that should be. I mean, that should be

539
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 3: the first one to the highest one. Yet I think

540
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 3: London is going like end of the second round in

541
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 3: fantasy drafts right now. I mean like they're expecting those

542
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 3: kinds everyone's expecting those kinds of numbers. Yeah, he's physically capable.

543
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't have a real problem with it.

544
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 3: I do question what's Cousin is going to look like

545
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 3: in Week one, you know.

546
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 2: Right when the Steelers play.

547
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I think it's a good time to get Atlanta.

548
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 3: I mean, Alan's think Pennas is going to start the season,

549
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 3: but you know, new situation coming off of major injury.

550
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 3: How many preseason reps do you have? It could be

551
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 3: rusty early for Atlanta.

552
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that'll be one to watch throughout training camp

553
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 2: and then the preseason. How much is Kirk Cousins doing

554
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 2: on the field.

555
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 3: That's an interesting one for you know, a new head coach,

556
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 3: not a rookie head coach. But we just drafted a

557
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 3: guy at eight and we just gave this guy all

558
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 3: this bazillion dollars. How are we going to get that

559
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 3: going and he's got an injury?

560
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

561
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 3: What are we doing for quarterback reps and preseason and camp?

562
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 3: Of course, Cousins going to act as the one, but

563
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 3: not if he can't get on the field.

564
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 2: Right right, Number two Kyler Murray and Marvin Harrison. Harrison's

565
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: projected stats ninety four catches, one ninety seven yards, eight touchdowns.

566
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 3: He's going even earlier than London and fantasy drafts, which

567
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 3: I think is a little rich for a true rookie.

568
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 3: He's a get of a ball. I mean, he is

569
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 3: going to be featured. It's a pretty decent offense all

570
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 3: of a sudden. I like the way they've schemed things up.

571
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 3: If you remember Kyler didn't We didn't this time last year.

572
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 3: We're like, when are we even going to see Kyler?

573
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 3: They've invested a lot in o line. Not great players,

574
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 3: but the line should be okay. But is Harrison ready

575
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 3: to be that type of feature receiver right at the bat?

576
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, we think so. But I mean, that's

577
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 2: that's a lot, a lot of that. That's a big

578
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 2: Ninety four catches for almost thirteen hundred yards and eight

579
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 2: touchdowns would be one of the best rookie receiving years.

580
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 3: And would in the kupa end up with last year.

581
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 3: I don't even remember, but it had to be somewhere

582
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 3: in that neighborhood. Yeah, yeah, I mean that was record setting.

583
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 3: They got talked about fantasy like, I don't think Harrison

584
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 3: is going to be on my fantasy team at that price.

585
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 2: No, not at that price. And the number one duo

586
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 2: C J. Stroud and Stefan Diggs and I'm sorry, I

587
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 2: ain't buying it.

588
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 3: I mean neither. He's a third guy on the team.

589
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 2: Diggs projected stats I'm going under across the board here

590
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,719
Speaker 2: eighty nine catches under one thousand and one, twenty four

591
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 2: yards and seven touchdowns.

592
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 3: Nico's the man.

593
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 2: Nico Collins is their number one.

594
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 3: Receiver absolutely, and Dell is not expected to miss time.

595
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 3: He was outstanding last year and the route combinations they

596
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 3: create with Nico and Dell as two really different type

597
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 3: players is highly highly effective. The best comparison I heard

598
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 3: for Diggs is he's now Keenan Allen. Yeah, best, I mean,

599
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,239
Speaker 3: And you know, Keenan Allen is a master craftsman at

600
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 3: what he did. But I think Diggs is going to

601
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,479
Speaker 3: be the slot and the three and get a lot

602
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 3: of one on ones, which is great, but he's not

603
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 3: going to be the primary option there.

604
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 2: So now that we've seen the twelve duos that he's

605
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 2: ranked on there, remind you that Russell Wilson and George

606
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 2: Pickens were tenth on in his rankings. Realistically, where do

607
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 2: they Where would you put them?

608
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 3: So if we're basing on how productive we think that

609
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 3: pairing will be, right, I mean that's why they did

610
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 3: the stats. Who are the ones ahead of George and

611
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 3: Russ Herbert mconkie. I Wouldens ahead of that, Levice and

612
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 3: Ridley definitely ahead of the William Yeah. Yeah, the Bears

613
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 3: one should be lower.

614
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: Daniels and McLaurin.

615
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 3: We're starting to get in the neighborhood.

616
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Allen and keyon Coleman that MU.

617
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 3: Should be just be lower. Yeah, just because I don't

618
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 3: have a lot of faith in.

619
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 2: Coleman right off the bat McCarthy, Jefferson.

620
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 3: Jefferson's a monster. I mean, Pickens is going to get

621
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 3: a big target chair, but it's not gonna as high

622
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 3: as Jefferson's, right, Yeah. Yeah.

623
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 2: Uh. Cousins in London, No, I think there's I think

624
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 2: those last couple are on there. Cousins of London might

625
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 2: be one for me, Yeah, Murray Harrison and Stroud Diggs.

626
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 3: I think Cousins London would be my one. Yeah, I

627
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 3: think so too, just because I don't trust Diggs to

628
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 3: be a high volume guy.

629
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think the thing that they the writer

630
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: missed on here is when you start looking at some

631
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: of these these pairings here, like Okay, I get you know,

632
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 2: Bo Nick's Courtland Sutton. Well, you got to a rookie

633
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 2: quarterback and an Okay receiver. Can't be that that, you know,

634
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: I bet we could come up with a better one

635
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 2: from the fast spot. To be honest with Daniel Jones

636
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: and Malik Neighbors. We got a bad quarterback and a

637
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 2: rookie receiver. I don't know that that you know that's

638
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 2: not going to beat that that due Uh No, Herbert McConkie,

639
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: I get because McConkie's going to be the number one. Yeah,

640
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: but Lewis Ridley, we talked about Hopkins, there, Williams and

641
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: a Doune a dune Jay's number three at best. He's

642
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 2: got to fight with Cole Comet for that, you know,

643
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 2: even even that spot. Uh you know, then you're looking

644
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 2: at Okay Jade and Daniels and Terry McLaurin. McLaurin is

645
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 2: the clear number one. But again, rookie quarterback.

646
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 3: Rookie quarterback, right, there's there's some questions there. There are

647
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 3: many where you pretty much know what you're getting with

648
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 3: both sides of the back.

649
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, realistically, I look I look at at the Steelers duo.

650
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 3: Maybe fifth real quick, would you put like mahomes Worthy

651
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 3: or that could have been on there, but Aaron Rodgers,

652
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 3: Mike Williams. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure we could come

653
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 3: up with three or four more where receivers change teams

654
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 3: and yeah, maybe should have been on there more than

655
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Speaker 3: the bottom guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm with you. Certainly would put those on

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Speaker 2: a list before I put bone Necks in Courtland's something

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Speaker 2: on there.

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Speaker 3: Especially if for Rasie Rice is going to miss time. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Worthy's gonna be out there, snap one.

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Speaker 2: We could have put Marquise Brown on there for that matter. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's an even better one. Probably.

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Speaker 3: I bet Brown is a better year than Worthy. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know as a rookie.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know. That's a good one. Why those

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Speaker 2: ones didn't make the cut.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure there's more we could come up with too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, let's get through another break. He is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lollie. You're listening to the Drive

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. He is the real Matt Williamson except no imitations.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dale Allie, and this is the drive on Steelers

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Speaker 2: Nation Radio. Met Aaron Schatz put together a list of

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Speaker 2: the top twelve draft classes of the twenty first century.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 2: I'm won to buzz through these here, and yeah, we'll

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Speaker 2: talk a little bit about what the Steelers Beast draft

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Speaker 2: class has been in the since two thousand.

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Speaker 3: Obvious it's way too early, but I think the most

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Speaker 3: well not the most recent one, the Roger Jones won

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Speaker 3: two years ago, could be could belization before you know it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So number twelve is two thousand and six Denver Broncos.

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00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: The Broncos took Jay Cutler at eleven. Overall this we

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00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: got Brandon Marshall, Elvis Dumerville, Dominic Hickson, and Chris Kupper Cooper.

689
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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, Dominic Kickson I were at Akron together.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not a bad class.

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Speaker 3: And you know at eleven, those next two, I mean

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Speaker 3: you got to starting quarterback. You can say to one

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Speaker 3: about Cutler, but Dumerville and Marshall, that's a big time player,

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Speaker 3: you right.

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Speaker 2: Number eleven, these two thousand and one Cincinnati Bengals, they

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Speaker 2: got Justin Smith, at number four. Overall, that's kind of

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Speaker 2: cheating if you if you have a top five pick,

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Speaker 2: you should hit better. Yeah, but they also took Chad

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Speaker 2: Johnson in the second round, so t J. Huschman Zada

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Speaker 2: late along got Rudy Johnson in the fourth round.

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Speaker 3: That's still pretty solid. Pretty Justin Smith was a great player. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: a lot of it was for the Niners.

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Speaker 2: But you know number ten, the twenty seventeen Saints, that

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Speaker 2: was Marshaun Latimer, Ryan Ramsay, Marcus Williams, Alvin Kamara, Trey Hendrickson.

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Speaker 3: Ye, pretty draft, well known as one of the better ones. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: recent memory, be nice. They kept Henderson right right.

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00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: The twenty fourteen Raiders took Khalil Mack number five, also

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Speaker 2: got Gabe Jackson, Justin Ellis, defensive end, TJ Carey, Shelby Harris.

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Speaker 3: That one's up blowing my doors off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah fine, yeah, all they got Derek Carr in the

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Speaker 2: second round.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, me at least you get starting quarterback. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and again I'm going I can put as much credit

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Speaker 3: on a top five pick, but Max.

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Speaker 2: A potential Hall of Famer obviously.

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Speaker 3: Boy, you talk about worst draft, though, the Raiders would

717
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Speaker 3: be all over this list.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, number eight to two thousand and five Cowboys, DeMarcus Ware,

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Speaker 2: Marcus Spears, Kevin Burnett, Mariam Barber, Chris Canty, Rob Pattiti.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that was the years with the Browns. I mean,

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Speaker 3: and Petiti was a pit guy, so I knew him.

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Speaker 3: He was nice fifth round pick for Rob. That's good class.

723
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Speaker 3: I mean, where's a stud. But again, that's an early pick.

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Speaker 2: The two thousand and six Bengals, they took Jonathan Joseph

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Speaker 2: in the first round, got Andrew whit within the second night,

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Speaker 2: Frosty Rucker in the third eh and Dematta Picco, a

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Speaker 2: defensive tackle, was in the fourth round. I don't know

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Speaker 2: why that one ranks. That's really good.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's one of the better picks we've mentioned.

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Speaker 3: But that's about it. It was twice.

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Speaker 2: The twenty eighteen Ravens. They got Lamar, but they also

732
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Speaker 2: took care Kayden Hurst in the first round. Let's not

733
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Speaker 2: forget that Orlando Brown Junior was a later round pick.

734
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Speaker 2: They took Mark Andrew and Anthony have Redd who's now

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Speaker 2: with the Steelers, Kenny Young, Deshaun Elliott who's now with

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Speaker 2: the Steelers. Yeah, how about that so yeah, they get

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Speaker 2: some guys here. That's okay.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you have two first round picks, and Lamar

739
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Speaker 3: is a great pick, and Andrews is a great pick.

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Speaker 3: I guess Orlando Brown is a good pick. Yeah, okay.

741
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Speaker 2: This is what you know when people talk about, well,

742
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Speaker 2: the Steelers don't have anybody left from this such and

743
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Speaker 2: such class. You know, five or six years later that

744
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 2: was the Ravens. Don't have the first round pick from

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Speaker 2: that class.

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Speaker 3: They don't have his, Andrews and Jackson.

747
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got two guys left from that draft.

748
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Speaker 3: Then the other guys are doing well in the league.

749
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're still in the league.

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Speaker 3: It's also a good lesson that if these are the

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Speaker 3: best drafts of the decade or of the millennium, they're not.

752
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Speaker 3: They're not exactly. They aren't, you know, seventy five right right,

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Speaker 3: I mean drafts are they don't bring as much, They

754
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 3: don't yield as much as people think.

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Speaker 2: The twenty twelve Seahawks draft Russell Wilson, Bob Wagner, Bobby Wagner,

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Speaker 2: Bruce Irvin j R. Sweezy, Robert Turbin.

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Speaker 3: I was saying to somebody else, but Irvin was the

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Speaker 3: first rounder I think, yeah, and he was not great,

759
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 3: but Wilson and Wagner great Day two stuff.

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00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Two thousand and eight Falcons, Matt Ryan, Sam Baker,

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Speaker 2: Curtis Lofton, Thomas to Cowed, Harry Douglas, Kroy Bierman.

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Speaker 3: That's okay, it's fine, But I mean Ryan's the top

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Speaker 3: five packs.

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Speaker 2: So we're talking about since two thousand here, right, there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of class thirty two classes. Times if you're

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Speaker 2: gonna play something, you're gonna put like Derek Carr draft

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Speaker 2: on there or or you know this one with with

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Speaker 2: because they got Matt Ryan, how about Ben Roethlisberger. Yeah right,

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Speaker 2: you know, and you got like Taylor in that draft

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Speaker 2: as well. Like even if that's all you got, those

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Speaker 2: two guys.

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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers. Right, if you only got Aaron Rodgers, that's

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Speaker 3: better than Matt Ryan and Sam Baker. Yeah right, mahomes.

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Speaker 2: The two thousand and four Cardinals draft, they got Larry

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Speaker 2: Fitzgerald third, Carlos Danby, Darnell Dockett, Antonio Smith, Alex Dapanovitch,

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Speaker 2: Nick Lacky.

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Speaker 3: And Dockett was a good player, yeah, you know, Larry

778
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 3: was a stud. But again, that's a top five pick.

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Speaker 2: The two thousand and four Chargers, Well they make it.

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Speaker 2: They took they got their quarterback. You're telling me those

781
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Speaker 2: those three quarters.

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Speaker 3: And Eli wouldn't play for them? Right, They drafted Eli.

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Speaker 2: Right, they drafted Eli, traded them for Philip Rivers. They

784
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Speaker 2: also got Nick Hardwick, Nate Cating. So he took a kicker, was.

785
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Speaker 3: A good kicker. But yeah, so he's a kicker.

786
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Speaker 2: Igor Oshansky, Sean Phillips, Dave Ball, Michael Turner.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's nice. Yeah, some of these guys are contributors. Phillips.

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Speaker 3: Good draft, right, right, right?

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Speaker 2: The two thousand and six Saints, the number how that went?

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Speaker 3: They drafted as you said, they drafted Eli. He said, no,

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Speaker 3: I'm not going I'm not playing for you. And then

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Speaker 3: they added a bunch of picks, right, going to get Rivers.

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Speaker 2: You know, the best number one draft according to Aaron

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Speaker 2: Schatz since two thousand the O six Saints, Reggie Bush,

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Speaker 2: Johari Evans, Roman Harper, rob Nikovich, Zach Shreef, Marquez Colston.

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Speaker 3: Colston was really good for a late round pick. H

797
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 3: Evans potential. Yeah, that's the best pick of the draft. Now,

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Speaker 3: I love Aaron Schatz's work, but I might trade that

799
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Speaker 3: whole when I trade that whole draft for my homes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, you know what I mean. Or Josh Allen

801
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 2: or Ben or you almost have to look at the court,

802
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 2: you know, if you've got to, you got a Hall

803
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 2: of Fame quarterback. Yeah, like it just cancels out everything else.

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00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 3: Right, I mean, I don't even know what the Niners

805
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 3: got the year they took pretty last, but you got

806
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 3: him last. Or I do remember Dak's year was Dak

807
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 3: and Zeke. It's a pretty good start.

808
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 2: So let's let's not look at even the last two.

809
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 2: It's too early to Joe.

810
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think the one that we saw as

811
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Speaker 3: rookies could be quite good fielder.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go back for me to the twenty

813
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 2: seventeen draft as their best one. Well, I just I'm

814
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Speaker 2: gonna throw them out here. You let me know. You

815
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Speaker 2: got t J. Watt, Yeah, Juju Smith, Schuster, Cam Sutton,

816
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Speaker 2: James Connor, Josh Dobbs.

817
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 3: Mitch Is. If you get a quarterback that lasts in

818
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 3: the league as long as he did that late, that's

819
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 3: a good pick.

820
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Brian Allen, Colin holbuck Key on Ken Adams, Well,

821
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Speaker 2: there's five guys in that two seven twenty seventeen drafts

822
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: a while ago, right, and those guys are all getting

823
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 2: closer to thirty nine, and you've got five guys that

824
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 2: are still in the league.

825
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 3: Just brought Sutton back, Connor is still playing well, Dobbs

826
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Speaker 3: is gonna be somewhere. I mean he's gonna make money

827
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Speaker 3: for a while. Yeah, that's a good one.

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Speaker 2: Looking back at the well, the fourteen draft, Ryan Shazier

829
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Speaker 2: steph on to.

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Speaker 3: It like, I'm not going to ding them for how

831
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Speaker 3: Shazier's career ended.

832
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: For that matter, those guys were both major hits still around.

833
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 2: They took it now, they did take three archser in

834
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Speaker 2: the third momb but they came back and took Martavis

835
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Speaker 2: Bryant in the fourth.

836
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Speaker 3: Was people might be like, that's not so great. You

837
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 3: got a lot out of him for a fourth round pick.

838
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 4: Oh.

839
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Looking at the.

840
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Speaker 3: I think I'll still take the watch draft.

841
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Speaker 4: I would take it too, Yeah, Cam Hayward the end

842
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 4: of the eleven the eleven draft, Cam Hayward, you also

843
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 4: got Marcus Gilbert in that draft.

844
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 2: That's a very valuable, a long time starter right tackle.

845
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 3: Andrew Whitworth in the second round but I mean it's

846
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 3: not it's in that neighborhood.

847
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 2: But then you got Curtis Brown, Cortezel and Chris Carter,

848
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 2: Keith Williams, Baron Basch. So you didn't get much out

849
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Speaker 2: of the rest of it.

850
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 3: Top strong, but that's not enough to over se.

851
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 2: So Marquise Pouncey in ten nice Jason Worlds in the

852
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 2: second round. Yeah, ed your team in sacks a couple

853
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 2: of times. Yeah, Emmanuel Sanders nice uh, Antonio Brown in

854
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 2: round six, Like, I don't care what the rest of

855
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: it looked like. You got some pick of the day

856
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: those four guys. Yeah, I mean that's a Tom Brady

857
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 2: pick it is.

858
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 3: That's a better pick than what Yeah, in the six round,

859
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 3: that's the best one.

860
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got two potential Hall of famers.

861
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 3: Yeah. AB's going. Yeah, anyone can say, but he's going.

862
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 2: And Sanders, Emmanuel Sanders might get some can at least

863
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:23,439
Speaker 2: make the LESG. He'll make the semi finalist. Second year again,

864
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 2: chasing Worlds.

865
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Speaker 3: That's not awful. Yeah, right right now, that's the best

866
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Speaker 3: one because of Ab.

867
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Speaker 2: Let's see here we got the well, this is a

868
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 2: pretty good one. Tomlins first draft in seven, Lawrence Timmins, Yeah,

869
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: Lamar Woodley Strong, Matt Spaith, that's a quality pick, a

870
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 2: long time in the league, Daniel so Pulva, the injuries

871
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 2: kind of Then you got Ryan McBean, Cameron Stevenson, William Gay. Yeah,

872
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 2: started a lot.

873
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 3: Of games in the league, a great end of draft pick.

874
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the fifth round. He started a lot of

875
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 2: games and he played for in the league for a

876
00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: long time.

877
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 3: I'm still taking the pouncing draft. Yeah, Okay, that's gonna

878
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 3: be hard to beat with ab.

879
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 2: How about this one oh five? Heath Miller Strong, Brian

880
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 2: McFadden real strong, Trey Essex started really good career, Fred Gibson,

881
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 2: Ryan Wallace, Chris Kimi Watsu again started the Super Bowl

882
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 2: and guard Yeah. Uh, Sean Nouah and Noah Herron.

883
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 3: Good class.

884
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:31,720
Speaker 2: Two thousand and four. Ben Roethlisberger carries Wait Ricardo Coakeley Okay,

885
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 2: not great?

886
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 3: Max Starks, Yeah, friend of the Show.

887
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 2: Ten years starter and you know it, left and right

888
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 2: tackle for you. Nathaniel dbe O uh least se matc Cranschick,

889
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 2: Drew Carter, Eric Taylor, Okay.

890
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 3: Would you take that one or the Watt draft?

891
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah? Yeah?

892
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,919
Speaker 3: What may even have a better career than Ben, I don't.

893
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 3: I mean, who knows, but Ben's quarterback.

894
00:41:54,160 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 2: How about three? Paula Malu, Nice, Alonzo Jackson, eh Taylor

895
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: strong pick, Yeah, Brian Saint, Pierre J. T. Wall. You

896
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 2: didn't have many picks that year because you had traded

897
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 2: trade up.

898
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,720
Speaker 3: But I mean magic, you did your secondary I in Troy.

899
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: Oh, you've completely remade it. Uh. Two thousand and two

900
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 2: Kendall Simmons, really good pick. That was a thirty second

901
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 2: pick from what I remember, thirtieth thirtieth Okay, Antoine Randa

902
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 2: Well in the second round, really good pick. Yeah, Chris

903
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 2: Hope in the third round. Yeah, started good. Larry Foot

904
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 2: in the fourth round.

905
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 3: Start all right, there's no misses here.

906
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 2: Veron Haynes in the fifth round he played, Yeah, Lee

907
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: May's in the sixth round, LaVar Glover, Brett Keesel in

908
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 2: the seventh round. Wow, that's a pretty good darn draft.

909
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 3: That's a really draft and that was yeah, Yeah, that's

910
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 3: a really good one. And then there's not a star.

911
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: But you know, two thousand and one Casey Hampton, Yeah, Kendrabell, Yeah,

912
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 2: he was the defensive rookie of the year. Matthias and Quent, Yeah,

913
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 2: Matthias Dequente, Chuck Ya Kobe, he played a long time

914
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: in the league. Rodney Bailey played eighty four games in

915
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 2: the league. Uh, Roger Knight forty eight games in the league.

916
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: Chris Taylor really good, that was good, and then two

917
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 2: thousand Plexico Burris. Okay, Marvel Smith.

918
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 3: That's a really nice pick. You get starting tackle, that's

919
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 3: a plus starter in the second round.

920
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, great, Kendrick Clancy one hundred and nine games played,

921
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: Hank Potit one hundred and ten games played in the league,

922
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 2: Danny Farmer, Clark Kagan's.

923
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 3: That's a great pick.

924
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 2: T Martin instead of Tom Brady, Chris Combs, Jason Govazda.

925
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 3: Okay. I mean there's there's some really good ones.

926
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 2: There's some really good draft that didn't make it, and

927
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 2: I would put some of those over top of some

928
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 2: of the drafts they picked.

929
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, my favorite I think is still the pouncy draft

930
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 3: with a.

931
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 2: B that's but really strong.

932
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 3: I mean, landing Ben changed the franchise, of.

933
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 2: Course, and the seventeen draft is really good too.

934
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 3: It is it is, And to Aaron Schotz's defense, you

935
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 3: could just put the best quarterbacks in the league draft

936
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 3: and yeah that it would get really boring. Yeah, and

937
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 3: not even care what else you get in the draft.

938
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 3: I will say this thought Max with Ben though, that.

939
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 2: Was nice to getting getting you know, Dak Prescott in

940
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 2: the third round or Russell Wilson in the third round

941
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 2: or you know Lamar Jackson at thirty two or even

942
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 2: Roethlisberger at eleven or Mahomes at ten. Yeah, that should

943
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 2: carry some weight. You didn't take those guy, Yeah, you

944
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 2: didn't take those guys first overall.

945
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, again you had to and they weren't first quarterback.

946
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 2: You had to finesse it.

947
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. No, I think that there's something to

948
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 3: be said for that. If you not luck into I mean,

949
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 3: if you ended up with the first overall pick, it

950
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 3: should be a heck a lot.

951
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

952
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 3: I'll think Joe Burrow right right and still get screwed

953
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 3: up Andrew luck Yeah.

954
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't put a ton of weight in that either. Yeah.

955
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 3: So that's a big thing in the draft world. Like,

956
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: with all respect the Penguins, it wasn't hard to draft them.

957
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 3: You or say no, you know or Ron, Yeah, we.

958
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 2: Could do that. Anyone could do that. But look at it,

959
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 2: look at you know, you get Bret Keithel in the

960
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 2: seventh round. Uh, you know you get Taylor like Taylor yea,

961
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 2: these guys these long time started William Gay in the

962
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 2: in the in the fifth round like that. That's where

963
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: you make your draft.

964
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 3: I mean, Ab is the best pick of all those,

965
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 3: the best pick of considering what you invested in, right,

966
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 3: you know, and that's one of the best picks of

967
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 3: the since two thousand. That's probably one of the best

968
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 3: picks in his Yeah, if you were just ranking, yeah,

969
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 3: straight draft picks, Like here's the top ten picks of

970
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 3: the top ten picks draft picks of the two thousands.

971
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably number two.

972
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 3: And Brady's not even in the two thing in.

973
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 2: Terms of value, he's two thousand.

974
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say he's the best draffick ever. Yeah,

975
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 3: but AB's not far behind, far behind, right yeh. I mean,

976
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,959
Speaker 3: how many Hall of Famers do you get in day three?

977
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 3: There's some, there are some, there are some, but it's

978
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 3: obviously a home run pick though.

979
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, let's get to another break. He is the

980
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 2: Matt Williams and I'm Dale Lallie. You're listening to the

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Speaker 2: drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. That's going to do

982
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Speaker 2: it for our number one here on the drive. We'll

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Speaker 2: be back with our number two right after this