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Speaker 1: All right, and welcome into the Ben Pros College Football Show.

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Speaker 1: Today we throw down our picks and predictions for a

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Speaker 1: week four of the college football betting season.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host, Seth Wilcock.

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Speaker 1: Today I'm joined by a guy who plays the heel

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Speaker 1: of this particular program, Terrell Furman, Terrelle, what do you

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Speaker 2: Gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: It's a big ten battle between the twenty fourth ranked

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Speaker 1: Illinois fighting a LINI traveling to Lincoln, Nebraska to battle

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Speaker 2: I'll be honest.

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Speaker 1: I've never been there, but I know there's not a

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Speaker 2: The spread has.

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Speaker 1: Shrunk since our early line show, with Matt Rohlsman now

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Speaker 1: favored by seven and a half. One of Illinois top

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Speaker 1: two running backs eight and love for he remains banged up.

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Speaker 1: Besides from that, though, it's a pretty clean bill of

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Speaker 1: going to be out of this one. Candidate ly Bogman

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Speaker 1: I talked about it on the earlier show. I still

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Speaker 1: want the under in this one. Nebraska three and oh

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Speaker 1: to the under, Illinois two and one to the under.

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Speaker 1: And also this series goes back to twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: they're three and O to the under as well. Can

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Speaker 1: I wait until Friday, though, is my question to you.

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Speaker 1: DraftKings usually gives us this nice little boost fifty percent

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Speaker 1: boosts on Friday to get invested with that Friday night game?

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Speaker 1: Can I wait to get in on the under? Do

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Speaker 4: No, I think you're okay because the majority of the

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Speaker 4: But I like Illinois plus the points, and I like

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Speaker 4: the under in this game. And it's because Rayola and

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Speaker 4: think the idea here should be play conservative with Rayola.

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Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, I'm calling the TVA on the Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 3: Like this is hype trains coming to an end, and

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Speaker 1: It will be freshman QBCJ Bailey who gets the nod

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Speaker 3: Jurell, Yeah, I think you've got to reluctantly just lay

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Speaker 3: I'll lay twenty and a half.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Trell did a great job mentioning here about

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Speaker 4: McCall has been awful so far this year. I think

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Speaker 4: So the difference is that the NC State offensive line,

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Speaker 4: So if I'm doing anything in this game, I'm laying

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Speaker 4: They did look great against APP State than they had

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Speaker 1: shifting gears to the later afternoon slate where the action

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Speaker 1: Aside from the movement on the money line, no spread

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Speaker 1: Wink Martindale's defense and newly named starting quarterback Alex Orgy.

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Speaker 1: Does Miss Chigan have enough on offense to keep this close?

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Speaker 1: Colston Lovelin, the best tight end in college football, in

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Speaker 1: I think he's an exciting player here, but I don't

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Speaker 2: What say you, Bogman?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So in this game, I we've seen a lack

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Speaker 4: of identity for Michigan's offense, right, but by going to Orgy,

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Speaker 4: we know what's going to happen. They are going to

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Speaker 3: I mean it's I mean it's clear as day everybody

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Speaker 4: And you stop it. That's that's what it is. And

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Speaker 4: this has been the Lincoln Riley issue is always on

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Speaker 4: the defensive side. But they look so much better under

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Speaker 4: It's the big house, there's one hundred thousand people. This

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Speaker 2: Okay, Terrell.

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Speaker 1: Do you think we're gonna see something like how the

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Speaker 3: Oh well, I mean, I think it's fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 3: at some point, at some point, you have to throw

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Speaker 3: And so you're telling me this guy beat him out

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Speaker 3: he rises up big and he shows it off. No,

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Speaker 3: we haven't seen it because they haven't committed to him.

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Speaker 3: And now we're going you know, what's this game four

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Speaker 3: he doesn't have the experience as a passer. Stack the box,

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Speaker 3: Stack the box and make him throw it over you

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Speaker 3: like Miller Moss, Like Box said Miller. Moss is a vet.

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Speaker 3: He sat, he waited, he learned, he thrived, and now

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Speaker 3: There's no way I could ever get to the window

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Speaker 1: I know our friends up there, and however are not

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Speaker 1: going to be happy with that analysis.

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Speaker 3: Oh they're about so torch me in the chat.

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Speaker 2: But but I get it.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, man, I gotta see the man. I gotta see

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Speaker 1: Well, it's kind of tough like them throwing him right

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Speaker 1: I'm with you guys here on that one. And if

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Speaker 1: sixteenth ranked LSU Tigers as they're hosting the now big

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Speaker 1: No other injuries of note, Terrell, Are you also going

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Speaker 3: Ah? Man, I mean backing the team that I think

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Speaker 3: there's no way I'm back in Ucla. Man. They look horrible, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: shot Like the Indiana game was horrible, absolutely horrible. They

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Speaker 3: didn't look good like I just don't think this UCLA

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Speaker 3: bet it though, Yeah, yeah, I'll absolutely I could absolutely

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Speaker 3: they unperformed that first half last game back home here

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Speaker 3: bit of revenge in twenty twenty one, that horrible season

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Speaker 3: u CLA got the win at home thirty eight twenty seven,

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Speaker 3: So it's a little bit of a revolt or revenge

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Speaker 2: Okay, how do you feel about it, Bogman.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Seth, Let's not forget UCLA had two weeks

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Speaker 5: This is not Signetti, Man, it's Signettignet was great.

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Speaker 3: No, that's a good point.

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Speaker 4: Signetti's great. But they were at home Indiana, had to

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Speaker 4: It's not so much that I love LSU, It's that

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Speaker 4: I hate UCLA and what I've seen from them. It's

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Speaker 4: the difference for UCLA has been is third downs. Third

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Speaker 4: is good enough to be one hundred and sixteenth in

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Speaker 4: the country. On defense, thirteen of twenty six. They're tied

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Speaker 4: they're one of only ten teams that allows fifty percent

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Speaker 4: is a mess right now. That is the issue to me.

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Speaker 4: So I'm on LSU. I'll lay the points. I honestly

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Speaker 4: don't really care how big this line gets. I think

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Speaker 4: LSU is going to destroy them. I might as well

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Speaker 4: take the over. I would lean towards the over, but

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Speaker 4: I'm on the Tigers here to dismantle UCLA. Maybe they

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Speaker 4: can't look that bad again. But like Terrell said, nothing

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Speaker 4: that we've seen from UCLA shows that they are going

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Speaker 1: How about a little side bet. Would you guys give

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Speaker 5: I'll give you twenty seven?

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Speaker 2: Trell, you went on this a little side.

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Speaker 3: What about giving you extra points for you had extra

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Speaker 3: points from what you talked about. If you liked it

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Speaker 3: at twenty two, I shouldn't give you twenty two. And

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Speaker 3: you said you called it at twenty two. Why don't

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Speaker 3: you give me twenty two?

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Speaker 1: I got to give up, hey, Bogman said, any number,

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Speaker 1: any number, so it's my fault.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty two was the number there since we since

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Speaker 3: you so confident, I take it. I like lissue.

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Speaker 1: All right, all right, first board bet of the season

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Speaker 1: for the boys here. We'll decide what the official wager

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Speaker 1: is here afterwards and let you guys know next week

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Speaker 1: what Bogman and Terrell will be paying me for that.

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Speaker 1: Let's end the afternoon slate here with a big twelve

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Speaker 1: showdown between two new rivals in Stillwater, Oklahoma, where the

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Speaker 1: on the program earlier this week, Okay State was a

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Speaker 1: a half point dogs here.

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Speaker 2: I imagine.

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Speaker 1: I imagine that flip came because head coach Kyle Winningham

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Speaker 1: said that he does expect cam Rising to go in

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Speaker 1: this one. So Bogman, if you got in early on

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Speaker 1: And is there still value to be betting them now?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I don't like this game.

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Speaker 4: This game is a stay away, holy and completely for

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Speaker 4: me because I just don't know what camp are we

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Speaker 4: getting one hundred percent Cam Rising? Because we're getting one

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Speaker 4: hundred percent Cam Rising. I think Utah roles. But if

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Speaker 4: we're getting less than one hundred percent Rising, I'm not

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Speaker 4: trusting Zach Wilson's little brother on the road against Okaing State,

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Speaker 4: I ain't doing it.

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Speaker 5: So I just I can't accept that.

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Speaker 4: So for for the fact that I don't know what

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Speaker 4: what we've got from Okay State so far this year,

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Speaker 5: That was nice.

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Speaker 4: But because I don't know what we're getting from Cam Rising,

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Speaker 4: I'm just staying away from this game to watch it

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Speaker 4: and enjoy it and count my money that you give

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Speaker 1: Have you ever seen a flip like this just in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because people thought that Cam Rising wasn't playing, they

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Speaker 3: saw that ut Sah State game, and they saw Utah

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Speaker 3: State hanging around there in a little bit and was

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Speaker 3: This is an absolute lock. I mean, this is an

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Speaker 3: absolute lock. You'd take the youth saw. Utah is here

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Speaker 3: and they're in the Big Twelve, and I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent going to happen. It's happening off of

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Speaker 3: Cam Rising, who is an amazing quarterback. And look when

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Speaker 3: he's healthy, he's great. It's amazing. And if you want

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Speaker 3: then fine, I'm gonna let you bet on injury. Why

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Speaker 3: Utah is one of the most complete teams in college

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Speaker 3: football in terms of offensively, they look stacked. Defensively, they

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Speaker 3: look really really good special teams, they get block punts

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Speaker 3: like every other game, Like, they look really really good

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Speaker 3: I love this Utah team. I think they're really really good.

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Speaker 3: Cam Rising got hurt by a freaking accident on a

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Speaker 3: Gatorade cooler, Like that's not gonna happen again. That's not

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Speaker 5: But he's been hurting. He's twenty five, isn't he.

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Speaker 4: I so the quarterbacks in this game are older than

436
00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,320
Speaker 4: the quarterbacks in the Colts game this week because the.

437
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Speaker 5: Play, I think.

438
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Speaker 4: So, you know, these are two crusty old vets, which

439
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:36,639
Speaker 4: is nice for offense.

440
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Speaker 5: But Bowman has been hitting.

441
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Speaker 3: But Bowman sucks. Yeah, but like that, and that's what

442
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,440
Speaker 3: it is. This Utah is gonna stack the box. I

443
00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 3: don't think he's just gonna stack the box. He's gonna

444
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,840
Speaker 3: stack the box. They're gonna make They're gonna test Gordon

445
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 3: as a rusher, and then they're gonna make Bowman pass

446
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 3: and then he's gonna turn the ball over. And that's

447
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 3: when Cam Rising has these deep ball shots like this

448
00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,679
Speaker 3: is Utah all the way. This is one of my

449
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Speaker 3: favorite listen.

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Speaker 4: If I knew for one hundred percent Cam Rising was

451
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 4: out there, I'd be taking Utah. But they let me

452
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,879
Speaker 4: down against Baylor when Cam Rising went to I've already

453
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 4: lost money on Cam Rising getting hurt Terrell, So no,

454
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna do it again. I'm gonna stay away

455
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,399
Speaker 4: from this one. We would have covered that game, I

456
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 4: lean toward they would have, and they would have got

457
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 4: my over too. But they didn't because he got hurt.

458
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna stay away from this game. I am

459
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 4: on Utah lean towards Utah, but I don't like it.

460
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Speaker 1: Speaking of age, if Zach Wilson's younger brother is anything

461
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 1: like his older brother might he might be mature guy

462
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Speaker 1: as well. If you know what I'm saying there, guys.

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Speaker 2: I do head.

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473
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Speaker 1: game with some heavy line movement to one with absolutely

474
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Speaker 1: no line movement, we have number eight Miami still a

475
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Speaker 1: sixteen and a half point favorite against.

476
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Speaker 2: The South Florida Bulls.

477
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 1: We all got burned trying to fade the Tampa Bay

478
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,919
Speaker 1: Boys earlier this season. Miami is getting healthier though they

479
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 1: are bringing back some of their bigger guys up front here.

480
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 1: Left tackle Jalen Rivers will be active in this one,

481
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 1: as will right guard Anez Cooper. They both miss the

482
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Speaker 1: past two games here for the Hurricanes, Terrell, is that

483
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Speaker 1: enough for you to fade the South Florida team led

484
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Speaker 1: by Byron Brown? We know that he can get loose

485
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 1: and run wild all over him.

486
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Speaker 3: I think that the reason I'm fading is that it

487
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,880
Speaker 3: just smells it, just like, why has this line? Why

488
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 3: is this not like twenty twenty one by now, Like

489
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Speaker 3: with all the hype that Miami has and how good

490
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 3: they looked against Florida and everybody's talking about cam World

491
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 3: Heisman and all of this, and crystal Ball figured it out.

492
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 3: I'm still not sold on crystal Ball. I won't forget

493
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Speaker 3: the coaching blo that he has, specifically towards the end

494
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 3: of last season. I'm not gonna mention it again, but

495
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like, I won't forget that stuff, And

496
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 3: I just think that this is a little brother angle.

497
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 3: This is the little boys in Tampa getting to play

498
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 3: big old Miami who dominates recruiting in the area, and hey,

499
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Speaker 3: showing a fact that we can take this team, and

500
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Speaker 3: we can test this team, and yeah, I like South Florida.

501
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 3: Go ahead, get it done and cover the sixteen and

502
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Speaker 3: a half. Why is his line not moved If everybody's

503
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 3: betting Miami, like everybody swears they're betting Miami, this line

504
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 3: should have moved a little bit, and it has. It's

505
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Speaker 3: actually moved closer to South Florida.

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Speaker 1: Bogs, Are you one of those who has swear he's

507
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: betting Miami right now?

508
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm betting Miami.

509
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Speaker 4: And look see, I'm here's the thing. I've been burned

510
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Speaker 4: by USF two years in a row, but that was

511
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Speaker 4: against Bama, like and we saw Brown run wild. Really,

512
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 4: what it is is, I don't trust Crystal Ball either, Drella.

513
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Speaker 4: What I do trust is cam Ward, And I think

514
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Speaker 4: cam Ward is a nightmare for this defense. Where they

515
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Speaker 4: can go out and they can make Jim and Milroe

516
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 4: face some bad decisions and throw some bad balls. You're

517
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 4: not gonna get that from cam Ward. It's it is

518
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 4: a dangerous. It's a dangerous proposition to put too much

519
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 4: pressure on him because he'll take off and he can

520
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 4: float it too. And the wide receivers are much better

521
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 4: here at Miami than they were a Washington State for

522
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Speaker 4: him last season. I think this is a Miami walk.

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Speaker 5: I do.

524
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Speaker 4: It makes me nervous that USF has been so good

525
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Speaker 4: at playing up in these big games and they're at home.

526
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Speaker 4: But I'm gonna go with my gut, my gut, says

527
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Speaker 4: cam Ward Miami Roles.

528
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's shift gears here too, a game where we

529
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Speaker 1: know a ton of money is coming in on Tennessee,

530
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Speaker 1: number six in the nation. They'll be up against number

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Speaker 1: fifteenth ranked Oklahoma, but the line is just slightly moved

532
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Speaker 1: where the best value for Tennessee is now six and

533
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Speaker 1: a half at FanDuel. This is one of the few

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Speaker 1: bets I've made this week. I'm rolling with Tennessee. They're

535
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Speaker 1: three to oh against the spread there three and oh

536
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Speaker 1: to the over this season. Oklahoma will still also be

537
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Speaker 1: without starting center Branson Hickman Bogman. Is that all the

538
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: more reasons to keep the good times rolling with the

539
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Speaker 1: volunteers in Norman, the site of college game Day this week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean my first instinct when I saw this

541
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 4: game was all right, well, Tennessee is not faced a

542
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Speaker 4: defense like Oklahoma. And while that stays true, and I

543
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,239
Speaker 4: do think Oklahoma will play better on defense then you know,

544
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 4: we've seen NC State or anybody else you'll play against Tennessee.

545
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 4: I think really the difference in this game is the

546
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Speaker 4: offensive line of Oklahoma versus the defensive line of Tennessee.

547
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Speaker 4: And I just don't think that Oklahoma, who's already had

548
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Speaker 4: issues on offense, is going to be rolling downhill in

549
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Speaker 4: a game at home against Tennessee. And Josh Hipel was

550
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Speaker 4: fired from Oklahoma, so he comes back in probably a

551
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,719
Speaker 4: little bit angry, maybe wanting to run this score up

552
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 4: a little bit in Norman, the first SEC matchup for

553
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Speaker 4: Oklahoma as a member of the SEC as well. And

554
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 4: I really just think that it's too much pressure from

555
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 4: this defensive front of Tennessee for Oklahoma. Oklahoma right now

556
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 4: is currently one hundred and twenty third in run block grade.

557
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 4: They're one hundred and fourteenth in passing yards per game,

558
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 4: sixty seventh in rushing. Tennessee is strong on the d line,

559
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 4: their eighth in pass rush grade fourth and run defensive grade.

560
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 4: Oh you like we said sixty six then one twenty eighth.

561
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 4: So just it's not a good matchup there. It's overwhelming

562
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Speaker 4: in Tennessee's favor on the defensive side right now. So

563
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 4: I know it's at home. Oklahoma is a strong team,

564
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 4: but Tennessee is rolling downhill with momentum and that big

565
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 4: difference on defense. I see Oklahoma having a hard time

566
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 4: on offense.

567
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Speaker 1: Trell, are you riding with us? Because I think Bog

568
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 1: makes a great point there. Everyone wants to talk about

569
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 1: this Tennessee offense and how stellar looks Underneco, But this

570
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: defense number two in total defense. They are legit on

571
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Speaker 1: the other side of the ball as well. So are

572
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Speaker 1: you rolling with the volunteers and Bogs?

573
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Speaker 3: And I I mean, how do we know they're legit

574
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 3: on defense? They played nobody that you haven't played anybody,

575
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 3: Grayson McCall look horrible.

576
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 4: We were just as Oklahoma somebody what Yeah, yeah, I

577
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 4: think Oklahoma.

578
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 3: Yes, I think Oklahoma is fine on offense. They went

579
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 3: and played a very good two lane team that I like,

580
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 3: and they weren't able to run a score up late

581
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 3: in that one. And then the only question that I'm

582
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 3: like is, Okay, Houston might suck, Houston might not be

583
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 3: good like that. That's really but that's kind of a

584
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,959
Speaker 3: rivalry game a little bit like I think that Houston

585
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 3: kind of got up for that one. But this Tennessee team,

586
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 3: I just haven't seen anything. At least I've seen them

587
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 3: have some adversity on Oklahoma. I have no idea how

588
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 3: this Tennessee squad this year response to adversity. And you're

589
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 3: telling me that you're going to Norman on the road

590
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 3: in their first SEC game. No, No. I think that

591
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 3: Brett Vinables is on the hot seat, and I think

592
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 3: this is one of the games where he shows that

593
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 3: he coaches up that defense to keep them in the game.

594
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 3: I like the under. I think the under is the

595
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 3: best played. I think people are on the over, and

596
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 3: I think it's quick to go to the over, but

597
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 3: I do like the under. I think the under is

598
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 3: a better play. I think that Nico is gonna have

599
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 3: a little bit of a rough game in what I

600
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 3: believe is his second road start, and so yeah, I'm backing,

601
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 3: oh you here plus the points. I think it's a

602
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 3: three point game either way.

603
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 4: Like the under as well, because I think, yeah, I

604
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 4: do like like this is a tough game for Nico.

605
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 4: This is way more tough than going to a neutral

606
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 4: site in Carolina and playing against anc State. This is

607
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 4: this is a true test for Tennessee on offense, like

608
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 4: Trell said, they haven't been tested. But like I said,

609
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 4: my issue is that I don't think that Oklahoma is

610
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 4: going to move the ball well at all in this game.

611
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna stick to the Tennessee side. But I

612
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 4: like Trell right on the under there.

613
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 3: And the Sampson is probably gonna control clock, Like I

614
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 3: think they're going to run Samson into the ground and

615
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 3: they're going to burn a lot of clock there too.

616
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: So okay, all right, Well mark your calendars, gents, because

617
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: now onto everyone's favorite game of the week, unranked Iowa

618
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: versus unranked Minnesota.

619
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Speaker 2: Big Ten fans didn't this make the card because.

620
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 5: It's better than we couldn't put Colorado un ranked on here. Again,

621
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 5: they're just too.

622
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 2: Bad, a little Big Ten bias.

623
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Speaker 1: I'm here for you guys, know me, Minnesota, they were

624
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: main a two and a half point dog, and I

625
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: don't think they should be, to be honest, They're a

626
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: missfield goal away from beating UNC.

627
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 2: In the opener.

628
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: They just beat down Nevada twenty seven zero. I know

629
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: Nevada is not really a top dog or anything, but

630
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: I think Nevada has been you know, surprisingly better than

631
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: expected this season.

632
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: Iowa.

633
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, they just let Troy put up twenty one on

634
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: them at home after letting one slip away against Iowa

635
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: State the week prior. This is the first time they're

636
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: gonna leave their own barn this season as well.

637
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 2: The more I look at this line.

638
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: The more I somewhat want to get invested with Minnesota. Terrell,

639
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: I can't bet college football player props in Pennsylvania, So

640
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: tell me and the viewers where we should be putting

641
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: our money here.

642
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just gonna concede to back Iowa, and I

643
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 3: think this is a perfect get right spot on the road.

644
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 3: They've actually been pretty solid on the road as a

645
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 3: road favorite twenty six, seventeen and two with Ferretts, so

646
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 3: so I think that this is probably a good spot

647
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 3: where it's just heavy defense. And I understand that's backing

648
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 3: Kate mcmahra on the road, and that doesn't feel good

649
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 3: to me at all. It actually makes me sick to

650
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 3: my stomach. But I mean, this is just a spot

651
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 3: where Iowa's defense just kind of wakes up, and I

652
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 3: think that that's why people are betting the over continue

653
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 3: to bet the under in this game. By the way,

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Speaker 3: Big ten defense is still question it back the under,

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Speaker 3: but people are backing the over because they've seen Iowa

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Speaker 3: give up that twenty one de Troy. They saw how

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Speaker 3: the end Waight rock O Beck that Iowa State.

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Speaker 2: A I I Oh.

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Speaker 3: There was a lot of people in the comments that

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Speaker 3: were getting on me about that Iowa State pick. I'm

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Speaker 3: not going to call you out, but it was a

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Speaker 3: lot of people on the comments that got me about

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Speaker 3: that Iowa State pick. I think this is a spot

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Speaker 3: where you back Iowa on the road. It's a short

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Speaker 3: enough line for me. I'll take Iowa a two.

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Speaker 5: And a half.

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Speaker 2: You're going with Farrens and company here, Boggs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I think that Iowa is not as impervious

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Speaker 4: as they have been, particularly giving up big plays, right.

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Speaker 4: That's been their issue the last two weeks. They gave

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Speaker 4: up the big play at the end of the game

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Speaker 4: to Iowa State fifty four yards and then last week

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Speaker 4: against Troy sixty three, forty three and sixty two yard touchdowns.

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Speaker 4: I gave up to Troy in that game. The problem

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Speaker 4: is is Minnesota is not the team to take advantage

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Speaker 4: of a team that gets beat on the back end.

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Speaker 4: They have not had a lot of explosive plays. I

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Speaker 4: believe three over thirty yards. There are only ten teams

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Speaker 4: with fewer than that this season. So because of that,

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Speaker 4: I think this plays exactly into what we think an ugly,

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Speaker 4: low scoring run it at each other. The defense wins

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Speaker 4: field position nonsense game and who wins those games every time?

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Speaker 4: Kirk Farrence and Iowa. So give me Iowa in this game.

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Speaker 4: I don't love it. I'm not touching the total because

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Speaker 4: we know that Iowa can get beat deep.

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Speaker 5: Will they by Minnesota? I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I know most of the money is actually on the

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Speaker 4: over in this game. Wow, I just won't touch the total.

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Speaker 4: I'll just stay away from it. Give me Iowa. I

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Speaker 4: will lean towards them in this game. But yeah, I

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Speaker 4: don't want the total.

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Speaker 1: Would you guys then also be interested maybe and just

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Speaker 1: missing out on the points and going Iowa moneyline minus

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Speaker 1: one thirty four lane a little bit of juice there, sure, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't hate that.

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Speaker 3: I would take Iowa money line and then also take

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Speaker 3: that total and just take it under or if you

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Speaker 3: want to, you know, I know you're not supposed to

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Speaker 3: tease across zero. There's rules to teases and all that,

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Speaker 3: don't seaze across zero. But if you want to tease

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Speaker 3: Iowa down and you want to seize the total up

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Speaker 3: take the under. I think that's a really solid play.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's close out the program here with what Bogman

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Speaker 1: referred to earlier in the week as potential trap game

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Speaker 1: number thirteen, Kansas State. They are hot off a thirty

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Speaker 1: one to seventeen smacking of Arizona. They now travel to Provo,

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Speaker 1: Utah to face the unranked Wiley BYU Cougars. This case,

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Speaker 1: State team has been well documented, a lot of homegrown

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Speaker 1: talent in that clubhouse, but by you also not getting

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Speaker 1: enough love, I don't think in the rankings right now.

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Speaker 1: They beat a good SMU team eighteen fifteen in week

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Speaker 1: number two, and they took care of business on a

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Speaker 1: road trip to Wyoming last week as well. Still, the

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Speaker 1: status of BYU's starting running back and second string running

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Speaker 1: back is still uncertain. They sat last week at Wyoming. Bogman,

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Speaker 1: does that move the needle enough for you to back

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Speaker 1: k State here, who are now six and a half

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Speaker 1: point favorites, knocking off half a point from earlier this week.

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Speaker 4: Let me just correct you that they beat a BYU,

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Speaker 4: beat a ok mediocre SMU team, because this team is

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Speaker 4: completely different than what they were last season. So look,

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Speaker 4: BYU already looks much better than what we thought they

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Speaker 4: were going to look at all this year. And I

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Speaker 4: know Ret's laugh is looked a little bit better as well.

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Speaker 4: I just my gut screams in this game that this

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Speaker 4: is a letdown spot. They just had the huge win

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Speaker 4: against Arizona. They look so dominant. They're going on the

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Speaker 4: road right to Provo to play BYU. That's tough. They've

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Speaker 4: got Okay State coming up next week, so it's a

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Speaker 4: look ahead game as well. And retz laugh really terrible

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Speaker 4: against the blitz and Kansas State doesn't blitz their pass rush,

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Speaker 4: it might be one of the worst factors on this team.

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Speaker 4: So everything in my brain screams, look ahead, upset whatever,

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Speaker 4: don't take Kansas State. But then I look at k

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Speaker 4: State and see how they dominated a good team in

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Speaker 4: Arizona at the longest winning streak in the country coming

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Speaker 4: into k State and beat the brakes off of them.

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Speaker 4: I'm just staying away. I'm gonna stay away from this

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Speaker 4: game as a whole, because my gut says, take the

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Speaker 4: points with BYU, but I don't want to put money

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Speaker 4: on BYU at any point this year, So I'm just

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Speaker 4: gonna stay away from this game and hope I'm right

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Speaker 4: on the BYU side.

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Speaker 1: Maybe gets better early that night, Bogan, maybe just miss

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Speaker 1: it all.

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Speaker 4: If this opens up, I'll probably if this gets to

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Speaker 4: like ten or eleven, I'll probably take BWYU.

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Speaker 2: Okay, how do you feel about it, Drell?

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Speaker 3: Oh, well, this is the upset parlay of the week,

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Speaker 3: two team upset parlay. Yeah, we're taking BYU and we're

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00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 3: parlaying them with the Alion I here, and we're going

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00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 3: to go out here and get a nice, nice, nice

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Speaker 3: payout there, because look, you're going to provo. First of all,

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Speaker 3: this is Avery Johnson's second road game. He played that

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Speaker 3: first game at tu Lane, and he didn't look good. Honestly,

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00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 3: it took a horrible call, horrible call at the end

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Speaker 3: of the game for them to even go out there

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Speaker 3: and get the win. Or I thought Tulane was driving.

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Speaker 3: I thought tou Lane was gonna make this interesting send

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Speaker 3: in the overtime, and we were gonna go out there

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Speaker 3: and see some more fireworks. But now you're going to

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Speaker 3: provo in elevation, like people keep forgetting that sneaky elevation

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Speaker 3: over there in Utah.

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Speaker 4: Man, it's a tough time too and elevation.

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Speaker 3: You're right, And so I think that BYU this game

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Speaker 3: is gonna own the line of scrimmers. They're gonna be

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Speaker 3: the more physical team and they're gonna just outman this

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Speaker 3: Kansas State team, where yes, they do look good. But

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Speaker 3: again everything you said Box is absolutely correct. This is

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Speaker 3: the letdown spot. This is the sneaking game. You're going

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Speaker 3: out here and you're playing a byu'd scene that did

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Speaker 3: nothing in the Big Twelve last year, and you think that, hey,

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Speaker 3: you know, we're as good as we are. We can

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Speaker 3: go out here. We feel like we can win the

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Speaker 3: Big twelve. Absolutely not BYU has something to say. They

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Speaker 3: give them a loss plus six and a half on

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Speaker 3: the money line. You have to bet this one.

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Speaker 4: You're braver than I am. I don't want to take BYU.

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Speaker 4: But I like the Confidencedrell. That's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, and now do for us today on the

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Speaker 1: Betting Pros College Football Show. Bogman will be back later

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Speaker 1: in the week with some more of his best bets

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Speaker 1: and player props.

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