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Speaker 1: Do Do Do Do Do Do. I'll be having a

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Speaker 1: great day. It's a football Friday, and we're here to

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Speaker 1: celebrate it with you. Crash off our first NFL game

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Speaker 1: of the season.

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Speaker 2: Do.

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Speaker 1: Dan Buyer's here, Jay Stew's here, Iowa Sam's here getting

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Speaker 1: ready for the cy Hawk Trophy to be handed out tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: In Ames, was that in Iowa? Where was that?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: It might have been New Hampshire when he where wasn't Iowa? Right?

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Speaker 3: Iowa Caucus?

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Speaker 1: That was an all the time right because he won

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Speaker 1: the Iowa Caucus.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 5: John Kerry came in, uh kind of like as an underdog,

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Speaker 5: and Howard Dean was like the front runner in the

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Speaker 5: in the press, and then Howard John Kerry ended up

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Speaker 5: winning it. So then Howard Dean was like, no, we're

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Speaker 5: gonna press on, and that's when he goes yeah.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: Well first he said like, well, we're gonna got a

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Speaker 1: new Hams, right, whatever happened to him?

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Speaker 5: Hey he's around.

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Speaker 1: They're always around.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they're always practicing medicine.

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Speaker 3: Still, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Was he a doctor? Yeah, must let's just start. I

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Speaker 1: was wrong. I'm not smart. I didn't know. The Cowboys

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Speaker 1: were actually looked yesterday like a really pretty good football team. Now.

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Speaker 1: Was it helped out by one of the most dynamic

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Speaker 1: defensive linemen in the league getting thrown out before the game?

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Speaker 1: Really a sure? But I think we can all sit

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Speaker 1: there and go like, yeah. It was also helped out

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Speaker 1: in the fact that Ceedee Lamb suddenly forgot how to

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Speaker 1: catch a football for the Cowboys. There's a lot to

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Speaker 1: get to it last night's game. But I didn't think

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Speaker 1: it would be terribly competitive, and it was, and it

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Speaker 1: had everything that was a fun game. It had everything.

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Speaker 1: It had just enough like Michael Jordan was there, some

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Speaker 1: of the some comedians were there, some actors. They had

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Speaker 1: just enough of the pomp and circumstance. It had a

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Speaker 1: weather delay, which I feel was more commonplace in college

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Speaker 1: weeks there's always a thunderstorm, lightning. Games are postponed or

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Speaker 1: or delayed or whatever. That happened last night. It had

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Speaker 1: an ejection, It had a big fumble or two, it

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Speaker 1: had it had a little bit of everything. But I

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Speaker 1: mean I was wrong. That was a winnable game by

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys and a well played game by Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 1: Here's Nick Sirianni, head coach of the Eagles, defending Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl champions, on the errors his team made throughout the game.

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Speaker 6: I want these guys to play with great energy, great

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Speaker 6: tenacity while doing it within the rules of the game.

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Speaker 6: So we'll address that. We talked about that obviously at

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Speaker 6: halftime because I felt like, you know, that's a really

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Speaker 6: good offense, and every one of their drives in that

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Speaker 6: And now you know a p I, which that's that's different.

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Speaker 6: That's in the heat of the game. Those those are

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Speaker 6: going to happen. But you know, I know we had

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Speaker 6: one with Nolan and one with JC and that creates

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Speaker 1: What do you do buyer. I mean to me with

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Speaker 1: the Jaalen Carter thing, I mean, he had a pre

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Speaker 1: existing reputation was one of the reasons he sort of

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Speaker 1: slipped a couple picks in the draft. He's crazy, crazy talented.

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Speaker 1: It does appear if you watch the video. Like I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he was goaded into it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: to the Cowboys huddle right like the ball was five

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Speaker 1: talking ish to the Cowboys before they get ready for

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Speaker 1: their first snap. Dak Prescott could have just done his

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Speaker 1: it instead. Now he kind of walks over, does little

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Speaker 1: John Wayne walk spits on the ground, and then gets

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Speaker 1: spit in his chest. I don't know whether or not

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Speaker 1: do like the fact that we now know there was

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Speaker 1: think we're good. Like, if you have another issue, all right,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have to sit you for another game or

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Speaker 1: have to the only thing that he lacked, and I'll

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Speaker 1: probably he'll probably get it here in the mail is

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Speaker 1: a fine, and he'll probably get it from the league.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know what you do with Jalen Carter

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Speaker 1: when he was in fact suspended for a game for

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Speaker 1: hawking a quick little loogie on Dak Prescott's chest.

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Speaker 2: Well, I look at it differently. I mean, I think

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Speaker 2: he got kicked out of a game. I don't think

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Speaker 2: that the penalty is. It's different if the Eagles are like,

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Speaker 2: you know what, you did this in practice, You're not

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Speaker 2: gonna play on Sunday or you're not gonna play on

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Speaker 2: Thursday night. It's completely different than this. Which, by the way,

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Speaker 2: I thought that completely took the juice and any of

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Speaker 2: the wind out of the Eagles sales for what could

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Speaker 2: have been an exciting first quarter or ramped up first

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Speaker 2: quarter because of you defending your Super Bowl crown in

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Speaker 2: the open on Thursday night. I think it took everything

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Speaker 2: be a sign of things to come because of what

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Speaker 2: you laid out with Jalen Carter. There was a reason

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Speaker 2: he fell in the draft and the great play that

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Speaker 2: he's had. Doug has made Howie Roseman look like a

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Speaker 2: genius up until this point. But now you have a

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Speaker 2: other players also falling victim to this sort of thing

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Speaker 2: of Hey, maybe we don't have to maybe now it's

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Speaker 2: more about me since we got that ring. I tweet

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Speaker 2: the last night I took five seconds for us to

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Speaker 2: hate the Eagles again, Like that was really quick.

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Speaker 1: I saw. I saw that tweet. And my problem was,

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Speaker 1: I was at a I was at a gathering and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, saw your tweet and I look up and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't even know what he's talking about.

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Speaker 1: And then people are like elbowing and needling, and I

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Speaker 1: the first snap? What? Yeah? That was? That was a

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Speaker 2: So it just tells me like there was nothing that

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Speaker 2: up in the offseason from the Super Bowl. Him getting

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Speaker 2: kicked out isn't the one game penalty and move on.

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Speaker 2: I think it's more of it could be representative of

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Speaker 2: maybe what this is all about with the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 2: I think that there are pitfalls like this, After you win,

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Speaker 2: We shall see seventeen more weeks to play sixteen more games.

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Speaker 1: That was as classic an Eagles win early in the

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Speaker 1: season as you're gonna find. Was it two years ago?

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Speaker 1: They were like ten and one to start the season,

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Speaker 1: and we're like, and it seemed like every game was

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Speaker 1: an escape? Yeah, you know, and then yeah, that's what

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Speaker 1: that felt like. Cowboys felt like the better team last night.

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Speaker 1: If he didn't know that that the Eagles won the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, if he didn't know they had Saquon, if

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Speaker 1: best defensive player, you'd be like, well, I just watching

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Speaker 1: able to capitalize as much. But that's how the Eagles win.

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Speaker 1: And I think the one thing you do caution yourself

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Speaker 1: against and this sounds like the opposite of coach speak.

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Speaker 1: Am I do I like to implore more discipline on

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Speaker 1: my team? Sure? Sure, but you do in football you

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Speaker 1: do have to have that edge. Right, It's like they

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Speaker 1: off the whistle. Right, there's just that little there's a

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Speaker 1: level of aggression, there's a level of energy. There's that

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Speaker 1: And you don't want to take it away from Jalen Carter,

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Speaker 1: but this, as you point out, that tracks like anything

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Speaker 1: you've read about Jalen Carter leading up into the NFL

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Speaker 1: and some once he's been in the NFL. Is why

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Speaker 1: he is again, why Howie Roseman took a ris that

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Speaker 1: others weren't willing to take. Here's Brian Schottenheimer after coaching

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Speaker 7: I don't worry about see lamb. See He's gonna be fine.

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Speaker 7: What a great player. Again, you know, this was a

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Speaker 7: this was a team defeat, and we own that. You know,

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Speaker 7: we understand where we can go as a football team.

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Speaker 7: We understand. I love the competition. I thought guys competed

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Speaker 7: their butts off. I thought that was great. But we're

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Speaker 7: all about winning, and we didn't win tonight, and so

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Speaker 7: therefore it's not good enough.

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Speaker 1: Here's the other thing we probably missed on Brian Schottenheimer. Now,

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Speaker 1: the first thing is Dak Prescott looked really good and

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Speaker 1: really mobile. And I would also point out that again

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Speaker 1: performed well enough in the playoffs to earn that distinction.

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Speaker 1: But Jerry is not an idiot. He did put a

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Speaker 1: bunch of money in him, and after last night, like

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Speaker 1: you know what, the old man still may know a

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Speaker 1: thing or two about a football player. But the thing

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Speaker 1: that the Cowboys made sure they did with their head

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Speaker 1: coach is have continuity. The reason they held on to

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Speaker 1: Schottenheimer was Dak really liked him. They worked together well.

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Speaker 1: He felt like his offense, his style, his play calling.

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Speaker 1: That works for him. So while we're concern ourselves with Pickens,

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Speaker 1: who still has He's talented but still got a lot

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Speaker 1: of turn in him. He doesn't block things, he doesn't

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Speaker 1: murders routes, all out of stack in the ball. But

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Speaker 1: while we're so concerned with their wide receiving core, their

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Speaker 1: what I thought last night was it was a win

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Speaker 1: for continuity. Now that will start to even out the

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Speaker 1: later we get into the season, because the Eagles have

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Speaker 1: adjustment period. And they didn't play in the preseason. But

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Speaker 1: last night was a little bit of a win. Was

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Speaker 1: a win for the Cowboys even though they lost, because

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Speaker 1: we all thought they were gonna get blown out and

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Speaker 1: they didn't, and they looked like the better team. They

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Speaker 1: just didn't make a couple of plays here or there

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Speaker 1: that should have solidified them as the better team, or

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Speaker 1: at least make the Eagles play a little bit better,

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Speaker 1: make the Eagles throw the ball down the field, something

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Speaker 1: they didn't have to do last night or couldn't do.

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Speaker 1: Our resident curmudgeon is as our producer. His name's Jason Stewart.

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Speaker 1: Without further ado, we find out who and what's annoying him.

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Speaker 8: Today, and now it's your annoying.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Doug. Charles Barkley was on with Bill Simmons a

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Speaker 1: I look at it a little differently. I do. There

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Speaker 1: It's in his hands.

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Speaker 3: Framber Valdez is a very good pitcher for the Astros.

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Speaker 1: Can I can I throw in one? And and Dan

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Speaker 2: You just how once you've complimented Jay Stu or complimented

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Speaker 1: it's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: The Great e O'Connor joins us. He's a calmnist for

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Speaker 1: Got a Head Coach Danny Hurley called Never Stop Life,

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Speaker 1: Leadership and What it Takes to Be Great. It's available

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I've known Danny and now known as Dan. He

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Speaker 10: I was fine. I just said, you don't need to

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Speaker 1: How is he in real life as compared to the

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Speaker 10: I think that Dan is a sensitive guy, and I

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Speaker 10: do think that things like the criticism he faced last

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Speaker 10: season did really bother him. But Dan is a very

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Speaker 10: loving and loyal person. And I think the one thing

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Speaker 10: that readers would be surprised at not you, because you're

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Speaker 10: a Division one coach and you've been around the game forever.

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Speaker 10: But Dan does not yell at his individual players during

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Speaker 10: a game. Now, in a timeout, he might yell at

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Speaker 10: the group, and certainly in practice it can be a

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Speaker 10: full contact experience, but during games when he going nuts

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Speaker 10: on the rest and occasionally even getting into it with

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Speaker 10: the opposing head coach or his assistance, he does not

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Speaker 10: scream individually at the players because he understood what that

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Speaker 10: felt like when he was a college player at Seaton

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Speaker 10: Hall and it didn't make him feel good. So he's

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Speaker 10: more of a corner man during games, a supporter as

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Speaker 10: someone who encourages you, gives you confidence and I think

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Speaker 10: that's been missed in the coverage of him nationally and

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Speaker 10: the way he's perceived. And to be honest with you,

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Speaker 10: I wasn't necessarily aware of that either when I started

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Speaker 10: the process, but I think that and that is what's

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Speaker 10: most important to me when it comes to college athletics,

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Speaker 10: is how the adults treat the young men or women

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Speaker 10: who are on their teams, on their rosters. And I

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Speaker 10: think Dan, if you talk to his players, they don't

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Speaker 10: want to play for anybody else. They swear by him

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Speaker 10: to a kid, to a player, and that's something that

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Speaker 10: I wanted to bring out in this book and I

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Speaker 10: hopefully we did.

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Speaker 1: Stuck out Liab show here on Fox Sports Radio Ian

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Speaker 1: O'Connor as our guests. The new book is called Never

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Speaker 1: Stop Life, Leadership and What it Takes to Be Great.

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Speaker 1: He co authored it with two time National championship head

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Speaker 1: coach Danny Hurley or Dan Hurley.

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Speaker 6: What I.

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Speaker 1: There's There are so many different aspects to his life

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Speaker 1: and his path to this to success which are interesting,

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Speaker 1: but some of it has been told through TV. When

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Speaker 1: you know you make Final four's people they try and

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Speaker 1: do these personal interest stories and tell things. What's one

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Speaker 1: that's in the book that people don't.

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Speaker 10: Know well the depth of his depression that he suffered

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Speaker 10: as a student at s Eaton Hall. He gets to

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Speaker 10: some pretty dark places. I'm not sure the average fan

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Speaker 10: is necessarily fully aware of that, and I think in

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Speaker 10: the book bringing out his humanity was important to me.

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Speaker 10: And there was a next Serve today on the athletics

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Speaker 10: website about Dan really struggling after this past season, really

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Speaker 10: human thoughts about should I resign three decades straight of

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Speaker 10: high intensity coaching without a break, without a single break,

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Speaker 10: and after a very challenging and difficult season against measured

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Speaker 10: against their standard of winning national championships, and the criticism

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Speaker 10: he took left him very vulnerable and thinking about walking away.

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Speaker 10: Do I need to resign as the head coach of

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Speaker 10: the Yukon Huskies. And he was very candid with me

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Speaker 10: about that human struggle he felt, and the price you

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Speaker 10: pay to compete at the highest levels of college sports today,

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Speaker 10: and also the changing nature of the game where now

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Speaker 10: recruiting is all about how much can you pay a kid?

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Speaker 10: And that's not the way he was raised in the business.

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Speaker 10: Recruiting is about relationships, or at least they used to be.

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Speaker 10: And also having a great program that would attract people,

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Speaker 10: and really, now down and how much are you going

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Speaker 10: to pay me? And I know I never thought it

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Speaker 10: would get to that point in college sports. I'm sixty

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Speaker 10: one years old, and if you told me that forty

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Speaker 10: years ago this would be the case, I never would

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Speaker 10: have believed it. And I think he's a similar mindset.

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Speaker 10: But all that sort of put together in a cauldron

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Speaker 10: of bubbling emotion led left him in a place where

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Speaker 10: he thought about walking away. Now. He didn't leave yukon

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Speaker 10: the previous summer, despite being offered seventy million dollars to

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Speaker 10: coach the most glamorous franchise in the NBA, the Lakers,

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Speaker 10: And this time he didn't walk away either. I guess

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Speaker 10: the author of never Stop should not stop, and he didn't.

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Speaker 10: But I think that that will surprise the reader is

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Speaker 10: just how emotionally cooked he was at the end of

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Speaker 10: last season, how he was sitting there just wondering if

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Speaker 10: he should even continue as a college coach. He ultimately

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Speaker 10: decided to come back, and they have a really good roster,

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Speaker 10: a better roster than they had last year. But I

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Speaker 10: think that'll be surprising the most.

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Speaker 1: Readers and did I read write that he nearly left

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Speaker 1: just to be an analyst at Fox Sports.

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Speaker 10: He had some conversations with He told me a TV

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Speaker 10: executive Andrew marsh and reported today it was Fox. Now

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Speaker 10: it makes sense his former agent, Jordan Design is a

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Speaker 10: Fox executive. So yeah, I think that that was something

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Speaker 10: he thought he could do for one year, basically, take

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Speaker 10: a gap year, do some TV and then recharge and

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Speaker 10: come back. Now he'd have to come back somewhere else

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Speaker 10: in college basketball or the NBA. I do think, and

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Speaker 10: this is really more my opinion, I think he will

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Speaker 10: coach in the NBA before he retires. I do think

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Speaker 10: that he wants to scratch that itch, if you will

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Speaker 10: take that shot, at some point. I think he wants

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Speaker 10: to win another national championship or two at Yukon. So

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Speaker 10: I think he'll be at Yukon for a number of

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Speaker 10: years before he possibly makes that move. And again, this

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Speaker 10: is really more my opinion. But if you told me

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Speaker 10: he was head co to the New York Knicks seven

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Speaker 10: years from now, I would not be surprised.

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Speaker 9: That.

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Speaker 1: Being said, there are very few coaches who are as animated,

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Speaker 1: maybe any that as animated as he is in the pros.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of the adjustment he'll have to

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Speaker 1: make to coach in the NBA in terms of his approach.

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Speaker 10: It's a great question, Doug, and he does believe like

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Speaker 10: his father. Now. I was surprised when he told me

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Speaker 10: this that his father, as he got older, mellowed out

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Speaker 10: a little bit and got a little kinder and gentler

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Speaker 10: and maybe a little more user friendly or player friendly.

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Speaker 10: I was surprised that he made that observation, and he

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Speaker 10: suspects the same thing will happen to him now. It's

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Speaker 10: hard to believe looking at Dan Hurley today that you

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Speaker 10: could see him calming down, for lack of a better expression,

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Speaker 10: as he gets into his mid to late fifties, But

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Speaker 10: he believes that will happen and make him then more

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Speaker 10: compatible with what the NBA is. We all know it's

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Speaker 10: a players league, and so listen. He fiercely considered the Lakers,

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Speaker 10: and he did believe he could coach Lebron James. And

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Speaker 10: I said to him later, you know, if you knew

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Speaker 10: Luca was going to be traded there, would you have

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Speaker 10: taken that job? And he said, no, I would have

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Speaker 10: made the same decision because I'm not really ready to

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Speaker 10: coach in the NBA yet, and I think I do

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Speaker 10: need to change a little bit, and along the lines

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Speaker 10: of what he said, his father went through that change.

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Speaker 10: So I again the way I look at it, the

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Speaker 10: way I look at his career after spending a lot

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Speaker 10: of time with him last season, I do believe that

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Speaker 10: he will take on that challenge as the last challenge

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Speaker 10: of a great career. To me, he's already a Hall

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Speaker 10: of Famer as a college coach, but to take that

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Speaker 10: last step and prove he can do it at the

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Speaker 10: highest level, I do think that's something that intrigues him

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Speaker 10: down the road in something that he ultimately will do.

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Speaker 1: What's the dynamics of the family, Like, you know, Bobby

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Speaker 1: was always the star growing up. Now Bobby has had

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Speaker 1: a successful but kind of up and down coaching career,

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Speaker 1: whereas Danny we mentioned before how he was used as

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Speaker 1: a player, the slow and steady climb and now the

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Speaker 1: champion coach. Of course, the dad is the legend. What's

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Speaker 1: the dynamics of that family like now?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think everyone is. Everyone gets along and supports

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Speaker 10: each other. And obviously their father's now retired, but he's

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Speaker 10: arguably the greatest high school boys basketball coach ever in

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Speaker 10: this country, and Morgan Wooton would be in that conversation

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Speaker 10: as well. I think that it's interesting, right the dynamic

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Speaker 10: has flipped where Danny was the other player and now

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Speaker 10: Bobby is sort of the other coach. But Bobby has

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Speaker 10: a very, very challenging job, and he has done a

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Speaker 10: good job at at Arizona State, but that is a

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Speaker 10: tough job the conference they're in now, and it's not

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Speaker 10: really a basketball school. I actually lived on that campus

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Speaker 10: right next to the arena back nineteen eighty six eighty

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Speaker 10: seven out of college, and so I know a little

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Speaker 10: bit about Arizona State and its history, and it's just

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Speaker 10: not a basketball school. So I do think Bobby has

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Speaker 10: done a good job there and will continue to do so.

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Speaker 10: But Dan, you know, he's showing up at Yukon. That's

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Speaker 10: not easy either because the standard there was national championships.

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Speaker 10: Jim Calhoun won three, Kevin Ollie won one, and it's

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Speaker 10: amazing that story on the women's side and the men's side,

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Speaker 10: what a school in stores Connecticut has done in college

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Speaker 10: basketball women's and men's divisions is unbelievable, And when you

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Speaker 10: look at where it's located, so Dan, when he arrived

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Speaker 10: at Yukon, he had to win national championships and he's

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Speaker 10: done that. He's done an incredible job measuring up to

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Speaker 10: that expectation. And I do think he'll win another one

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Speaker 10: or two certainly before he ever leaves that school, and

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Speaker 10: it might be this year. The motto last year was dynasty.

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Speaker 10: You could have that same motto this year if they win.

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Speaker 10: If they win three out of four, that's certainly a dynasty.

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Speaker 10: Last year a disappointment, but hey, he almost beat the

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Speaker 10: ultimate national champion in Florida in the second round the

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Speaker 10: NCAA tournament. That to me, was a testament to Dan's

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Speaker 10: coaching ability with that roster. I thought Dan the coach

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Speaker 10: really outperformed that Dan the GM last year and actually

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Speaker 10: did a very good job with what he had to

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Speaker 10: work with. And he almost picked off Florida in the

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Speaker 10: second round, and that shouldn't be forgotten.

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Speaker 1: Ian O'Connor, you got to check out this new book.

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Speaker 1: national championship head coach Dan Hurley. Ian, you're the best man.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk in soon. Thanks for being our.

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Speaker 10: Guest, Hey, Doug, thanks so much, and best of luck

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Speaker 1: next year, I'll head down there. We'll have a have

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Speaker 1: people do in football, it's hit or missing basketball. Do

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Speaker 1: you you know, do tears or do you just each

652
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Speaker 1: individual guy would negotiate with him. Lots of decisions to

653
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Speaker 1: be made from that perspective, But I think, just me,

654
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Speaker 1: I think that you're pretty well aware players are being paid.

655
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Speaker 1: So keep that in mind. And there's still this weird

656
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Speaker 1: feeling that a lot of people have, like are we

657
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Speaker 1: supposed to be doing this? We're not supposed to be

658
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Speaker 1: doing this. And some of the reaction is in the

659
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Speaker 1: idea that it diminishes the coach if you have a

660
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Speaker 1: bigger pot of money. Right, So we'll get to it

661
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Speaker 1: a second. Here's my gundhy head, coach of Oklahoma State,

662
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Speaker 1: getting ready for the Oregon game.

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Speaker 4: I guess that the last three years that we spent

664
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Speaker 4: around seven million over the three years, and I think

665
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Speaker 4: Oregon spent close to forty last year alone. Wow, so

666
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Speaker 4: that was just one year. Okay, Now I might be

667
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Speaker 4: off a few million, but they're spending a lot of money.

668
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 4: They spent a lot of money, you know, and there's

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Speaker 4: some schools that are doing that.

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Speaker 1: If you listen to the entirety of the cut. He

671
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Speaker 1: wasn't negative about organ He was saying they have amazing resources.

672
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Speaker 1: I do think the figure of forty is quite high.

673
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Speaker 1: I think it's you know, again, that's factoring and a

674
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Speaker 1: bunch of stuff that aren't what they're really factoring in.

675
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Speaker 1: My guess is it starts with a two, But I

676
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Speaker 1: don't know. Here's Dan Lanning, highly successful Oregon HEEAD coach,

677
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Speaker 1: former Georgia assistant. Here's Lanning.

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Speaker 11: I got a ton of respect for coach Gundy. You know, ultimately,

679
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Speaker 11: how blessed are we to be in a place that's

680
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Speaker 11: invested in winning. If you want to be a top

681
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Speaker 11: ten team in college football, you better be invested in winning,

682
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 11: and we spend to win. Some people say to have

683
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Speaker 11: an excuse for why they don't right, And ultimately he's.

684
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Speaker 6: A great coach.

685
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Speaker 1: They've done an unbelievable job.

686
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Speaker 11: But I want to be a team that's competing at

687
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Speaker 11: the highest level, and we're really fortunate to be in

688
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Speaker 11: that situation. So I can't speak on their situation. I

689
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 11: have no idea. You know, what's what they got in

690
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Speaker 11: their pockets over there? I'm sure U T. Martin maybe

691
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 11: didn't have as much as them last week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where he goes to a whole bote. Hey

693
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Speaker 1: you played you T Martin last week? Huh. They didn't

694
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Speaker 1: have nearly the budget you had. Didn't hear you complaining

695
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: about is Gundy complaining? Yeah?

696
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Speaker 2: Is he?

697
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 6: Is?

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Speaker 1: He honest? Yeah? Like, look, I was critical of Mike

699
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: last year when you know his star running back got

700
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: a dui and he's like, ain't anything I haven't done

701
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: a hundred times again, I wouldn't have said it, nor

702
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Speaker 1: would I have done it. I mean I Saturday night

703
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Speaker 1: this weekend, I went over to a buddy's house. They're

704
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: all having old fashions, was consonantble fashions. I was like,

705
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: I just can't have one. They're like, why it was?

706
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Speaker 1: I can't get a dui? Like one drink? Like what's

707
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: what's the point of one drink? Like I'd like to

708
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Speaker 1: have a couple of drinks. And I'm just not going

709
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: to do it. I'm not gonna put myself in that situation.

710
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: I want. I'm not gonna possibly get a dui. But

711
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Speaker 1: the point is that even though I greatly disagree with them,

712
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Speaker 1: no one has ever accused my Gundhi of pulling punches

713
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Speaker 1: and being dishonest. I think what he wanted to get

714
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: out there was we had no money the past couple

715
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Speaker 1: of years. This is the first year we're spending money

716
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: and we're trying to figure it out, and there's gonna

717
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Speaker 1: be hits, there's gonna be missus but Landing taking a

718
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: swipe late, and man, I don't think U. T. Barton

719
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Speaker 1: had that much money. The other part, which is kind

720
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: of patently unfair, which is, hey, i'd rather you know,

721
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Speaker 1: if you want to spend to win, that sounds great.

722
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Speaker 1: Some programs don't have that. If Boone Pickens were still alive,

723
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Speaker 1: they probably would maybe maybe not, you know, Oklahoma State,

724
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Speaker 1: it just does not have the depth of that level

725
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Speaker 1: of donors that are that committed, and it makes it

726
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Speaker 1: really hard. Plus they're trying to be good at every

727
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Speaker 1: sport softball, basketball, football, soccer, wrestling, they're really good at,

728
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Speaker 1: you know, questioning. My daughters said, like they have little

729
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Speaker 1: money because they're trying to be good at so many

730
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Speaker 1: different sports, But I thought it was interesting, like that's

731
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Speaker 1: what coaches talk about all the time. I told you,

732
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Speaker 1: guys this last week. We were playing Ohio State last year.

733
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Speaker 1: It was like an eight point game, and I switched

734
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Speaker 1: up a ball stream coverage and then all of a sudden,

735
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Speaker 1: we're down like fifteen. I just started emptying the bench

736
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Speaker 1: and playing guys. It was the one by game that

737
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Speaker 1: got bad and I was in. I was just devastating

738
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Speaker 1: the locker, mad at myself. Why'd I switch the ball

739
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Speaker 1: screen coverage. I just tried to spark us. Well, just

740
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Speaker 1: I'm in my own sorrow. One of my coaches grabbed

741
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Speaker 1: and he said, what was our budget this year? Said

742
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Speaker 1: at one hundred? He said, yeah, there was a three million,

743
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Speaker 1: maybe three and a half. That thing was over before

744
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Speaker 1: the jump ball, right, So you can use an excuse

745
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Speaker 1: or an explanation or a motivation for your fans, your

746
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: bone donors. If you want to be like Organ, you

747
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: gotta spend like Organ. Landing took it as a slam

748
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Speaker 1: at him a little bit. That's why he pushed back.

749
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Speaker 1: And I think it's because Lanning operates on the premise

750
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Speaker 1: that I agree with this, that does it take great personnel.

751
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: Yes does. It takes spending short, but it also takes

752
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Speaker 1: quality coaching, because the more you pay kids, the harder

753
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Speaker 1: it is to get them to do the little things.

754
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Speaker 1: We do this every Monday. I don't see why we

755
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Speaker 1: shouldn't do it. Now. Let's do a little love and hate?

756
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Speaker 1: Shall we love and hate? Oh? It's Tuesday? Did you

757
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: guys do it yesterday? Did you guys do it love

758
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:14,959
Speaker 1: it hate yesterday? Dad Buyer?

759
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 2: Yes we did, Yes, we did.

760
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Speaker 1: What'd you love from the weekend?

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Speaker 2: I loved Ohio State's victory on Saturday against Texas. That

762
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,439
Speaker 2: was great. Again, not overblown, but it was just great

763
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Speaker 2: to have college football back and the team won a

764
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Speaker 2: big game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Sam, would you love on the weekend?

766
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: Well?

767
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 5: I was supposed to go camping and I did not.

768
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Speaker 5: I'm kind of glad that I didn't. It fell through

769
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Speaker 5: and I gorged, gorged on college football.

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Speaker 3: That's what I loved.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I was watching from Thursday night up until

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Speaker 5: last night. It was a wonderful, wonderful Labor Day weekend.

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Speaker 1: What about you there, Jase two.

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Speaker 3: I'm a college football casual. I don't necessarily root for

775
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 3: a team, but I root for store wines, as you know,

776
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 3: and going into the year, I'm rooting against two individuals,

777
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 3: Arch Manning and Deon Sanders. Both of them crap the

778
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 3: bed over the weekend, and I enjoyed that. I love that.

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Speaker 1: I did think that Deon Sanders, like they not calling

780
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Speaker 1: a time out there when there's two blatantly obvious moments

781
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 1: where they could have called the time out and they didn't.

782
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: On the last drive. I wasn't cheering them to lose.

783
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 1: I did want to see what it looked like without

784
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Speaker 1: his son, and they lost. What I loved from the weekend,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just loved that I didn't actually have

786
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Speaker 1: to move Saturday. I moved very little. I moved very low.

787
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: I was not rewarded. Like the Texas Texas Ohuse Tate

788
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: game was not a great game. Nobody will tell you otherwise.

789
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: Like it just wasn't. Wasn't that cleanly played, teams weren't ready,

790
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: wasn't None of the games were great, But it was

791
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: just good to have something on TV that we could

792
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 1: all argue about on Monday. Rights just really good. What'd

793
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Speaker 1: you hate from the weekend, Dan Byer, what was your

794
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 1: hate that you listed?

795
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Speaker 2: I think my hate was my luggage got delayed because

796
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: my plane got delayed and traveling on Saturday, so there

797
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 2: was a bunch of stuff, And so then you have

798
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 2: to make the decision do you wait because I was

799
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Speaker 2: fortunate enough to have another flight where my luggage was

800
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Speaker 2: coming in that same night, or do you wait till

801
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 2: the next day? I did not like that very much.

802
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: Okay, Chase dou what'd you hate in the weekend?

803
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Speaker 3: I hated watching my baseball team, the Dodgers, regress to

804
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 3: what they were before sweeping the Podreys. They're still doing

805
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 3: with the same issues. In a weekend against the Podreys

806
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 3: at home, they seemingly had fixed all of their problems,

807
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 3: addressed all their bugaboos, and then in the games prior

808
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 3: or games after that, they have gone back to what

809
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 3: they were prior to that. So we need to fix

810
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 3: some stuff up here. In the last three weeks of

811
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Speaker 3: the season.

812
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Speaker 1: Three weeks left, ug Sam, what'd you hate? For the weekend?

813
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Speaker 5: I think I need a new TV or I at

814
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 5: least need to do a factory reset of my TV

815
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 5: because the YouTube TV multiview, which that really should be

816
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 5: my hate, you still can't customize it exactly the way

817
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 5: you want it and that bothers me. They should have

818
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,919
Speaker 5: this figured out, should pick exactly the games you want.

819
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 5: That's not my hate though. That's been a long standing

820
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 5: right for me, the multiview thing. But my TV couldn't

821
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 5: even handle multiview. It kept crashing, so I couldn't watch

822
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 5: four games on one screen. It kept just like turning

823
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:36,439
Speaker 5: off or going back to the main menu. So, oh,

824
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 5: I have no I know, I might need a new TV.

825
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

826
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Speaker 2: Those are always fun purchases though, right, you can the

827
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 2: upgrade to a little bit bigger one. Yeah, I need

828
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 2: a better picture.

829
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

830
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Speaker 5: Sure, this is an old Roku TV and.

831
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Speaker 1: It's small, and they're not that I mean. And if

832
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: you can go to like Target and get one's expensive, Yeah,

833
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: TV's are crazy.

834
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Speaker 3: Imagine that two thousand and five, so just twenty years ago,

835
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 3: if you were if you were to say, one day,

836
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Speaker 3: I'm going to complain that these four HD images will

837
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Speaker 3: not be able to look great on my TV in

838
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 3: uh from the internet.

839
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Speaker 5: Yeah, now you put in proper perspective there, I would say.

840
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 5: I will say that we've had the picture in picture

841
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 5: for a long time now. It's been a technology, it's

842
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 5: been around.

843
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it went away, it went away a while.

844
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 3: It went away, Yeah, went away for a while because

845
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 3: it was garbage. So that's not even a great example

846
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 3: to use.

847
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: Wow, clean that up, and yeah, deleting the podcast. My

848
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: my hate is the nonsensical decisions and nonsensical takes that

849
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: come from one college football game where people aren't really invested.

850
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: You know. It's the same thing we get with bowl

851
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: games or with NCAA tournament games, like but especially now,

852
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: like they've literally had fifteen practices. They're still their kids,

853
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: so they're not like whatever your memory is of great

854
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: college quarterbacks, go and watch him play first week of

855
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: the season, in their first start. And yeah, I'm talking

856
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: a little bit about Arch Spanning. I thought some of

857
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: his fundamentals did break down. I thought he did get

858
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: sped up. But I was actually at Peyton Manning's first

859
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: collegiate game. They played UCLA. He was a backup. He

860
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: came in off the bench and he was good. But like,

861
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,720
Speaker 1: let's not act like you said, the world of fire

862
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: and they're playing against a really good Ohio State team.

863
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: So but my bigger one is again like the let's

864
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: fire Kalin de boor like he's been there for fourteen games,

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Speaker 1: what are we doing, you know, I mean just the

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Speaker 1: craziness of one game that you're not really invested in,

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Speaker 1: not really invested in