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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in, and I say back in because I've

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Speaker 2: already done a four hour radio tour. Appreciate all the

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Speaker 2: affiliates that hosted me all over the country this morning.

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Speaker 2: A lot of fun, and we're going to continue that

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Speaker 2: fun with a bevy of stories to chase down throughout

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Speaker 2: the course of the program. Gonna give you a little roadmap.

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Speaker 2: Bill O'Reilly will be with us at one thirty eastern,

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Speaker 2: Adam Carolla at two thirty eastern. Those are our guests.

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Speaker 2: There is a new New York Times poll out showing

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Speaker 2: that Donald Trump and Joe Biden are dead even at

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Speaker 2: forty three percent each. Included in that number is a

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Speaker 2: surging amount of support from Hispanic voters. Joe Biden's margin

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Speaker 2: down to just three points according to the New York

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Speaker 2: Times poll forty one to thirty eight on Hispanics, Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden with only a thirty nine percent approval rate. We

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Speaker 2: will discuss what all of the significance of that is.

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Speaker 2: But as we ended yesterday's program with the Devon Archer testimony,

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Speaker 2: we still have not seen a full transcript, but much

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Speaker 2: of what he has said has been distributed and block.

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Speaker 1: Let's just start here.

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Speaker 2: I saw a story this morning Devin Archer mentioned forty

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Speaker 2: eight times on CNN and MSNBC. Donald Trump mentioned seven

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty nine times yesterday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: I was curious.

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Speaker 2: I was in the hotel gym, and so I had

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Speaker 2: every one of the television newscast was on in there,

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Speaker 2: and I could see how CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News

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Speaker 2: were all playing the Devon Archer testimony. Not surprisingly, CNN

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Speaker 2: and MSNBC, The New York Times, the Washington Post, they've

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Speaker 2: effectively pretended that this did not exist at all, and

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Speaker 2: they have all engaged in rampant shifting of the storyline

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Speaker 2: such that Buck, I want to play this for you first.

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Speaker 2: This is Dan Goldman, who is a Democrat congressman. He

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Speaker 2: says that I mean, and this is crazy that basically

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Speaker 2: the reason these conversations were going on, and remember they

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Speaker 2: disputed whether there were any conversations going on at all,

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Speaker 2: was because of bo Biden's death.

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Speaker 1: Listen to this.

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Speaker 3: Bo Biden got very sick in early twenty fifteen. He

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Speaker 3: died in the spring of twenty fifteen, which was right

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Speaker 3: in the middle, when Devon Archer had his business dealings

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Speaker 3: with Hunter Biden. At that point, Joe Biden and Hunter

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Speaker 3: Biden began to speak every day because they were both

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Speaker 3: devastated by Bo's death.

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Speaker 1: They spoke every day.

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Speaker 3: The witness testified that over his ten year relationship with

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Speaker 3: Hunter Biden, there may be approximately twenty times when in

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Speaker 3: one of those conversations, Hunter Biden would put his father

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Speaker 3: at a dinner, not at a business meeting, at a

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Speaker 1: And that was essentially the extent of it. Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: So now the dead brother is the reason why they

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Speaker 2: were having phone calls back.

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Speaker 1: You remember the last time we talked about this on

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Speaker 1: this show, I said, the ultimate fallback for Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: from the media, it's always the same thing. It's sympathy.

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Speaker 1: Sympathy for Joe has nothing to do. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: can do this for any Everybody has lost. Everybody has pain,

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Speaker 1: Everyone has lost people that mattered them in their lives.

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Speaker 1: Not everyone's President of the United States. Not everybody is

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Speaker 1: just wisdom and excellent conduct, but I mean in the

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Speaker 1: case of Joe Biden, and this is so obviously a

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Speaker 1: massive scam. It's so clear what was going on here

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Speaker 1: that they fall back to try to play the sympathy card. Look,

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Speaker 1: they do it with Hunter, Oh, he's an addict, so

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Speaker 1: we can't criticize him. They do it with Biden throughout

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Speaker 1: his entire life. And Biden loves to deploy and has

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Speaker 1: deployed that card. Remember he claims that he ran for

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Speaker 1: president because his son's last wish was that he run

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Speaker 1: for president. You know, I can't say I wasn't in

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Speaker 1: the room, but that's a very convenient storyline for Joe Biden,

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Speaker 1: who we know lied about what Trump said and the

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Speaker 1: was running. But Clay, you know, the issue that they

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Speaker 1: the appearance of impropriety for a president, for an elected official,

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Speaker 1: of Trump, to impeach, to indict, to do all these things.

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Speaker 1: Where to believe that Joe Biden was having these calls,

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden was engaged in a fraud and the fraud

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Speaker 2: was the bribe that was supposed to lead to action,

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Speaker 2: but was never going to do.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: It's almost like they're saying, I didn't sell drugs. I

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Speaker 2: didn't sell them weed, I sold them oregano. Well that's

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Speaker 2: not good either. We're going to play some of those cuts.

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Speaker 2: I would just say this, and I would be curious

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Speaker 2: for other business owners out there. Eight hundred and two

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Speaker 2: there are just random twenty calls over the course of

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Speaker 2: their relationship. Twenty calls is a lot for our business partners.

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Speaker 2: And I'll give you an example. I am forty four

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Speaker 1: Done business with. Zero times.

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Speaker 2: Now, if I were in business with my dad, that

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Speaker 2: might change. But I think for anyone that has ever

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Speaker 2: to be engaged in these meetings, because they call so frequently.

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Speaker 1: I've never done that.

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Speaker 2: I bet that most of you out there who run businesses,

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Speaker 2: whether and you might have great relationships with your dad too,

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Speaker 2: Most people, the difference between their business and their life

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Speaker 2: I think if I were out to dinner in a

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Speaker 2: He wants to say hi to everybody, and he didn't

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Speaker 1: Room at all. What they are selling, Buck is such

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Speaker 1: a lie.

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Speaker 2: And then Devin that they tried to say, oh, he

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Speaker 2: was just calling to ask about the weather and those

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Speaker 2: kind of things. What the weather it's cold in Ukraine. Well,

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Speaker 2: I don't care what the weather is in China right now.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't impact me in any way. Joe Biden was

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Speaker 2: a participant in this business, Buck, There's no way they

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Speaker 1: Can I just throw out there the speed with which

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Speaker 1: they have moved on the Joe and Hunter Biden Global

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Speaker 1: Corruption Tour, The speed with which they have moved from

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Speaker 1: nothing happened, he knew nothing. Joe was never even in contact,

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Speaker 1: No illegality occurred. Joe saying Hunter is the smartest person

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Speaker 1: I've ever known, Joe saying my son did nothing wrong.

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Speaker 1: Turns out he actually committed a whole bunch of felonies.

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Speaker 1: That's just a matter of public record. Now we all

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Speaker 1: know that. And Joe oh also is far more involved.

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Speaker 1: Do you see though, the way the New York Times

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Speaker 1: opened their big piece on this one Clay, this was

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Speaker 1: their line. It has long been known that the elder

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Speaker 1: mister Biden at times interacted with his son's business partners.

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Speaker 1: Times audience. The New York Times audience believes that Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden is as innocent as can be and had nothing

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Speaker 1: to do with any of this because he said so. Ye,

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Speaker 1: it is a huge lie. Joe Biden is a liar.

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Speaker 1: Everybody capital l liar. I believe we have audio. This

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Speaker 1: is from Fox News. It is a montage to build

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Speaker 1: on what you said. Where the New York Times is like,

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Speaker 1: of course he spoke with his son's business partners. It's

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Speaker 1: long been known.

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Speaker 2: Here is a Fox News montage of Joe Biden saying,

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Speaker 2: I never discussed business with my son.

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Speaker 4: I did not know he was on the board of

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Speaker 4: that company. That never discussed my business or their business,

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Speaker 4: my sons or daughters. But I never discussed a single

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Speaker 4: the crane. I've never spoken my son about his overseas

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Speaker 1: Okay, so that is clearly a lie.

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Speaker 2: Also, it would make Joe Biden kind of a jerk,

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Speaker 2: right I said, I've never had my dad call my

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Speaker 2: But I certainly on some level, and I bet most

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Speaker 2: what they're doing in their life with their parents. Joe

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Speaker 2: Bearisma board. I mean, that is such a flagrant lie.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I if one of my sons were on

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Speaker 2: I would know too. If if I were a politician, buck,

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's just take this into another realm for

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Speaker 1: a second, one with which you are quite fond of familiar, Clay,

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Speaker 1: Imagine that you're looking at a super Bowl, a Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl match coming up, right, super Bowl game, and you

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Speaker 1: say to somebody, Hey, you know my uncle. We got

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Speaker 1: uncle Bill on later. By the way, Bill Riley would

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Speaker 1: be with us, but he's not the uncle we're talking

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Speaker 1: super Bowl. Now, I'm not saying that your team is

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Speaker 1: a couple of close calls. If you give me a

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Speaker 1: million dollars, but why don't I get my own go

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Speaker 1: are and how much influence I have with him, And

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Speaker 1: maybe give me a million dollars because down the line

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Speaker 1: we'll figure out some other way to work together. That

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Speaker 1: is one hundred percent analogous to what Joe Biden and

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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden were doing here. It was the perception, the

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Speaker 1: belief among foreign entities that they would be able to

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Speaker 1: leverage Hunter. And let's be clear, you asked me about

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Speaker 1: this claim the context of clandestine operations, an espionage. Even

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Speaker 1: the belief that those entities, those foreign adversaries would have

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Speaker 1: would be able to be used as a leverage point.

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Speaker 1: You know, even if Hunter goes, yeah, you know what,

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Speaker 1: my dad's actually not doing anything for you. You know what

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Speaker 1: they say, Well, maybe we talked to some people publicly

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Speaker 1: about the millions of dollars that you took promising that

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Speaker 1: your dad is going to give us favorable treatment in China,

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Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Even just the the

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Speaker 1: relationship there is the problem. This is how you recruit

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Speaker 1: people for any number of things around the world. You

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Speaker 1: just get them to start accepting gifts.

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Speaker 2: Well not only that, remember there's the WhatsApp message where

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Speaker 2: Hunter directly says call me now, and I'm paraphrasing I'm

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Speaker 2: sitting right next to my dad and if you don't

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Speaker 2: pay us immediately, basically there will be hell to pay

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Speaker 2: on my word as a Biden. And they've proven Buck

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Speaker 2: Welcome Back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Okay, Buck,

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Speaker 2: you mentioned this earlier the New York Times and the

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Speaker 1: Now, I used to do this back believe or not,

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Speaker 1: don't think you'll Clay, here's one we could come back

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Speaker 2: over half of Democrats still believe that the Hunter Biden

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Speaker 2: laptop was Russian disinformation. If you have half of your

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Speaker 2: party believing something that is essence has been disproven for

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Speaker 2: years now, how far down the rabbit hole can you go?

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Speaker 2: If you're starting with the Hunter Biden laptop is Russian disinformation,

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Speaker 2: you immediately dismiss all of this because this is building

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Speaker 2: on multiple layers. Right, They're so far away from what

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Speaker 2: the truth is that it's hard for them to acknowledge it,

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Speaker 2: which is why primetime hearings might might help to convince

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Speaker 2: some persuadable voters of what's actually going on here.

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Speaker 1: I think for anyone listening, if you have a neighbor

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Speaker 1: mysteriously all of a sudden are saying that they have

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Speaker 1: the center of the Democrat base. If we had video

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Speaker 1: shoe that could drop here. If they find the millions

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Speaker 1: mind about Joe Biden. I'm telling you the Democrat in

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Speaker 1: this case would say it's fine as long as he

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Speaker 1: can defeat Donald Trump. We don't care. Yeah, that's where

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Speaker 1: it is, and that's so everyone needs to understand. That's

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to play and Buck and Uh. You've got

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Speaker 1: a lot happening today, a lot to get through the

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Speaker 1: all of you. Eight hundred and two eight two two

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Speaker 1: we've seen a little bit of interesting stuff going on

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Speaker 1: with the polls where you have right now. I think

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Speaker 1: at least the national poll that I've seen Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump tied. We are expecting that sometime this week

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Speaker 1: there'll be another indictment of Donald Trump. It all feels

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Speaker 1: a bit like this is We're just entering this realm

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Speaker 1: of total crazy. It's not enough to say it's unprecedented.

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Speaker 1: That's obvious when there's so many unprecedented things coming together,

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Speaker 1: and it's obviously part of a concers or to attempt

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Speaker 1: to undermine Donald Trump for the twenty twenty four general election.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to look at this and see it as

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Speaker 1: anything other than setting us up for an even more

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Speaker 1: contentious election in some ways than I think we had

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Speaker 1: the last time around. I think the amount of bad

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Speaker 1: faith that we are seeing operate throughout the system under

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden specifically, it actually worked. It actually worries me.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I get a little concerned. I don't get

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Speaker 1: worried about the country very often, you know. I make

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Speaker 1: fun of the people that are like terrified at night

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Speaker 1: about climate change and stuff like that. But given that

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Speaker 1: we're expecting there'll be another indictment coming through here for

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump soon, I have to say I think that

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Speaker 1: this election, it's really going to be hard to make

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Speaker 1: the case to people that it isn't tainted from the start.

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Speaker 1: And I don't really know how we can handle that,

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Speaker 1: or rather what the best way is to handle that,

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Speaker 1: other than obviously we got to win, we gotta beat them. Yeah, sure,

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Speaker 1: but how.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, I get asked this question all the time,

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Speaker 2: and I'm sure you do too, And I got asked

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Speaker 2: it yesterday at the Braves game. How does Biden ever

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Speaker 2: get held responsible for the Biden crime family? And I'm

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Speaker 2: talking about Joe Biden, And I said, candidly, one, you

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Speaker 2: should impeach, as we have argued on this show for

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Speaker 2: some time. But I said, a second part of that

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Speaker 2: is really and they're not going to remove him from office.

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Speaker 1: The Democrats in the Senate.

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Speaker 2: Really the only way that Joe Biden can be held

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Speaker 2: accountable is if he is the nominee, he has to

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Speaker 2: lose in twenty twenty four and he has to basically

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Speaker 2: end his political career as a loser. That is how

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Speaker 2: you and me and everybody out there listening who says, hey,

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Speaker 2: I want there to be some consequences, and I know

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Speaker 2: we got Bill O'Reilly Now I believe who is joining us.

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Speaker 2: And I saw this and you and I were talking

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Speaker 2: about it off air. Buck really interesting argument that Bill

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Speaker 2: makes in his most recent column up on the site,

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Speaker 2: Yeah Message of the Day up on Bill O'Reilly dot com.

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Speaker 1: You all know, by the way, the Killing the Witches

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Speaker 1: book will be coming out soon too. We'll talk about that.

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Speaker 1: But Bill, first up, this is from your Message of

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Speaker 1: the day, the heavy odds or that Donald Trump will

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Speaker 1: have to sign off on a plea deal before the

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Speaker 1: Republican convention next summer. Tell us how you see this

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Speaker 1: one going down? And thanks for being here.

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Speaker 6: Sure, Well, the democratic power structure in Washington, which features

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Speaker 6: the Justice Department, I mean the Justice Department in the

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Speaker 6: White House, are now working together, which is not unprecedented

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Speaker 6: but very unusual. And we know that because my investigative

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Speaker 6: team uncovered Matthew Graves, who is the US Attorney in Washington.

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Speaker 6: His wife, Adam mcgraves, has made twenty eight visits to

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Speaker 6: the White House since Biden was inaugurated. She's no business

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Speaker 6: being there, it's not in government, and she is the

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Speaker 6: courier of information from Merrick Garland to Joe Biden's people.

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Speaker 6: Biden himself is so out there in the ozone. You

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Speaker 6: don't know how much he's involved, okay, but certainly the

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Speaker 6: White House personnel is so Fatam mcgraves, we believe is

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Speaker 6: going back and forth because you can't put anything in writing,

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Speaker 6: it'll be subpoened down the road, and you make can't

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Speaker 6: make phone calls because they're taped when they go into

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Speaker 6: the White House. So she's a courier and her husband,

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Speaker 6: Matthew Graves, his office is in the same proximity to

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Speaker 6: Merrick Garland. So those two are working together and they're

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Speaker 6: not going to stop. They're going to indict Trump on

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Speaker 6: everything that can possibly indict them on. It doesn't matter

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Speaker 6: whether they get a conviction. What they want is trial

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Speaker 6: dates that inhibit his campaign. So in order to stop

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Speaker 6: some of that madness, Trump's gonna have to make a

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Speaker 6: deal to plead guilty to some low level beef that

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Speaker 6: you know won't him ount to any jail time or anything,

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Speaker 6: but he doesn't want to go in. If a federal

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Speaker 6: judges you got to show up at this point for

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Speaker 6: the trial, He's got to show up at this point

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Speaker 6: for the trial. And they'll try to make it impossible

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Speaker 6: for him to have a consistent campaign. They'll keep throwing

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Speaker 6: those trial dates up. The first one we have now

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Speaker 6: is in December. So I believe that the Trump lawyers

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Speaker 6: will convince him. And because nobody on his side believes

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Speaker 6: any of this anyway. Poll came out today, ninety one

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Speaker 6: percent of Fox News viewers don't think he did anything wrong.

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Speaker 6: I mean, so, you know, so it doesn't matter what

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Speaker 6: they do now he's inoculated.

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Speaker 2: So this is fascinating, Bill, because you know Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: very very well. You've done a lot of events with

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Speaker 2: him over the years. Both Buck and myself talking off air,

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Speaker 2: just said, man, we can't see Trump ever agreeing to

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Speaker 2: plead to anything because his brand is I've done absolutely

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Speaker 2: nothing wrong. You actually think that he will if so,

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Speaker 2: and I want to build on this, I believe you

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Speaker 2: have been on my team here in saying Joe Biden's

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Speaker 2: not going to run. Do you still think that Biden

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Speaker 2: is not going to run? Or what is the Democrat

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Speaker 2: plan there?

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Speaker 5: The plan is to get someone else and what timeframe?

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Speaker 1: Though, when does that need to happen in your lice?

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Speaker 6: My guess, and it's a guest and I don't like

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Speaker 6: to speculate, is that Biden will be gone by Christmas

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Speaker 6: because the Democrats have to then go into the primary season,

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Speaker 6: so they desperately want Michelle Obama to run. Michelle is

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Speaker 6: not convinced. They're up there in Martha's vineyard now and

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Speaker 6: all kinds of high level meetings. I mean, if you

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Speaker 6: guys should do your show on the ferry from What's

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Speaker 6: Hold to Martha's Vinue, should just load up and you'll

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Speaker 6: see some pretty interesting characters on that very So in

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Speaker 6: lieu of that, then they got to decide where I

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Speaker 6: want to take a chance on Gavin Newsom, who's got

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Speaker 6: all kinds of problems in California, and I mean he's

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Speaker 6: not it's not a person that would persuade a lot

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Speaker 6: of independence to go Democrat. Amy Klobish are also in

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Speaker 6: the mix. So the Democrats they don't know what to do.

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Speaker 6: They don't know. But the reason I think that Biden

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Speaker 6: won't even show up in January for his you know,

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Speaker 6: in the Oval Office, is because this Hunter Biden stuff

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Speaker 6: is going to lead to impeachment maybe even charges. I mean,

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Speaker 6: there's no doubt that Joe Biden sold influence. There's no

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Speaker 6: doubt that Hunter Biden did not register on the Foreign

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Speaker 6: Alien Business Act. So they're gonna hit him what they

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Speaker 6: have to hit him with that because Maniford went to

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Speaker 6: jail for two years for it same thing, and Hunter

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Speaker 6: Biden made a lot more money than Manaford did.

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Speaker 1: Bill, what do you think about the promise that has

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Speaker 1: been made by this White House that under no circumstances

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Speaker 1: will Joe Biden pardon his son.

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Speaker 6: You know, the promises from the Biden White House are

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Speaker 6: about they're worth as much as MSNBC programming. So you

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Speaker 6: just make the call. And one thing about Trump, he

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Speaker 6: doesn't want to plead guilty to anything. I mean, if

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Speaker 6: you were to talk to him today, I'm never going

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Speaker 6: to do it. But the strategy would be just to

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Speaker 6: go out and plead guilty in the say, look, I

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Speaker 6: had to do it if I want to run, if

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Speaker 6: I want to have a campaign, I had to do it,

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Speaker 6: and then all of his people will go, yeah, right,

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Speaker 6: we understand. So really there isn't a downside for him

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Speaker 6: doing that, and there may be a huge upside.

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Speaker 1: What's the payoff for Democrats allowing him to plea Well,

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Speaker 1: it's not a.

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Speaker 6: Matter of allowing. It's a matter of that his attorneys

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Speaker 6: will go in and say, will plead guilty to this,

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Speaker 6: and if you don't take the deal, we're going to

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Speaker 6: make it public because you've taken a Hunter Biden deal

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Speaker 6: that was ridiculous. And you know how much can mirror

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Speaker 6: Garland absorb. But he's going to be impeached by the way,

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Speaker 6: the attorney general, first time in the history of this

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Speaker 6: country that attorney general will be impeached. Garland is a

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Speaker 6: lock for impeachment. That'll happened in October because he it's

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Speaker 6: no longer you know, any two sides to the story.

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Speaker 6: I mean, the judge, the federal judges blue Garland right

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Speaker 6: out of the water.

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Speaker 1: So do you think build that The Democrat calculation here

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Speaker 1: becomes if they can just get Trump to to your

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Speaker 1: what you're saying about about a plea deal, then he

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Speaker 1: is technically and officially a felon, right, or at least

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Speaker 1: that they would say he's or whatever convicted of some crime.

652
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: He's a he's a criminal at that point, and so

653
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Speaker 1: then the Democrats run with some version of I mean,

654
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: you know, some version of the criminal president YadA YadA.

655
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 1: Is that is that basically the play?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? But so what nobody believes it?

657
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: I mean, well, then why would they do it? Though?

658
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: That's what I don't know that. But I don't think

659
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 1: they're gonna offer him a deal. Bill. I'm just gonna

660
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: be honest, I don't see why they offer him a deal.

661
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: What's the point they don't You can't force several prosecutors

662
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: to get a deal if his.

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00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 6: Attorneys go out and say, look, we're willing to plead

664
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 6: guilty to this, but this is a political persecution here,

665
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 6: and they're using the prosecutorial powers of the Justice Department,

666
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 6: and they won't take a plea when they took a

667
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 6: plea with Hunter Biden to protect his father Joe. I mean,

668
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 6: this blows up everything I think.

669
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: I think this DOJ doesn't care. I think that's the problem.

670
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 6: But anyway, but if Merrick Garland's impeached, all right, I mean,

671
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 6: it's it. What is going to happen in the fall.

672
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 6: I tell all my viewers and listeners on the No

673
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 6: Spin News and you can get that on Billorelly dot com.

674
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 6: Is that in the fall, this whole country is going

675
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 6: to change dramatically. It's like Oppenheimer, You're gonna have atomic

676
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 6: bombs everywhere, boom boom, boom, boom boom.

677
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 5: And there's not going to be any semblance of what

678
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 5: we have now. On August first, Bill, what do you think?

679
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Speaker 2: Last question for you? You said you think that Democrats are

680
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 2: trying to get Michelle Obama to run. How do you

681
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: think Trump would think about running against Michelle Obama as

682
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 2: opposed to Joe Biden.

683
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Speaker 6: Oh, Michelle Obama much tougher for Trump.

684
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt.

685
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 6: Michelle opens sixty forty. All right, Trump's beating Biden now

686
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 6: by a little bit. But Michelle Obama is so popular

687
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 6: among the minority groups and the women groups, and all

688
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 6: of that mobilizes them. And then Trump, you know, Michelle

689
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 6: was going to get attacked, There's no doubt about it,

690
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 6: because she's just some pretty inflammatory racial things in the past.

691
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 6: She has no experience. But then you're bringing Barack back.

692
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 6: So it's really like, you know, Donald Trump's run against

693
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 6: both Michelle and Barack and you can imagine how the media.

694
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 6: My god, I mean, they'll cannonize her. So Trump is

695
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 6: far better off front against the phantom of Joe Biden.

696
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,919
Speaker 6: But Michelle might not do it. That's not a lock.

697
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 6: I mean, she doesn't really want to put herself through that.

698
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 6: I believe I could be wrong.

699
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Speaker 1: But yeah, they got a nice house and the vineyard

700
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: at a bunch of other places, right, they got a

701
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 1: lot of money.

702
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 2: It's yeah, Bill, I'm down at the Atlanta Braves watching

703
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 2: show Heyo Tani play right now, they're playing the Angels.

704
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 2: This is a show Heo Tani like performance by you.

705
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 2: If you hit on this stuff on August first, So

706
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 2: we're flagging all of these, all of these predictions, and

707
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 2: if you hit, it's more than babe calling a shot.

708
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 6: All right, But remember I have the Witches in my.

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Speaker 1: Corner here as a come out bill, because we're gonna

710
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Speaker 1: talk you more about that.

711
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 6: September twenty sixth, Abuse thecarious book you've ever ever read,

712
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 6: and elements of the Exorcist are in this book, so

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00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 6: you can get it. You can order it an advance again.

714
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 6: It first and the Killing the witches are on my side,

715
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 6: and so I know I've got stuff coming in here

716
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Speaker 6: in the spirit world.

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Speaker 1: Well good stuff. Yeah, we're gonna need all the help

718
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Speaker 1: we could get to win this one. Bill, thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for being with us, guys. Go to Billiley dot.

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Speaker 6: Com here, guys and call me any time like being

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Speaker 6: on your show. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Always appreciate it. Dude, Uncle Bill coming through man big

723
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Speaker 1: call him big shots, Clay call him big shots. Here

724
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Speaker 1: in the future, look, I'm gonna tell you right now,

725
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Speaker 1: we might have to We talked about putting up a

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Speaker 1: prediction board. We might have to do like some kind

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Speaker 1: of steak bets or something with Bill, because I do

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Speaker 1: I don't think that it's even the Trump's lawyer. I

729
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: just don't think they're gonna offer him a plea deal.

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Speaker 1: Why would they offer from a plea deal that lets

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Speaker 1: him I mean that doesn't involve jail time. Democratic base

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Speaker 1: will be they'll be lighting everything on fire, literally, lighting

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Speaker 1: everything on fire.

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Speaker 1: On the Sunday Hang with Playing Buck podcast, second hour

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Speaker 1: Playing kicks off right now. Just a note coming up

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Speaker 1: at the bottom of the hour. Bill O'Reilly will be

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Speaker 1: from the Biden crime family, and also twenty twenty four

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Speaker 1: of those political discussions here coming up in a bit,

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Speaker 1: But first, I just I wanted to spend a few

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00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 1: minutes here on what's going on in NYC. In New

766
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: York City, my hometown. You might have seen some of

767
00:43:53,080 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: the footage of this. There are long lines of illegally aliens.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: It's interesting because everything now says asylum seeker, to the

770
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Speaker 1: point where if you do a search Clay as I did.

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Speaker 1: I want to make sure I have the most up

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Speaker 1: to date reporting on this one this morning, you do

773
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: a search for illegal aliens New York City, nothing comes up.

774
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: The Orwellian language change has been successful to the point

775
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: where you go into Google you're trying to find illegal

776
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: aliens ny do Hey, you gotta look for it. Hard

777
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: doesn't show up. You type in asylum seekers and it

778
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: shows up right away. If you type a type in undocumented,

779
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: you'll get far more hits non citizens. That's another one

780
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: they're going to start using more and more. Now that

781
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: is that is intentional. I mean, well, it's all intentionally dishonest,

782
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: But that one is just nonsensical because that's treating somebody

783
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: who shows up and wants to live here forever after

784
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: crossing illegally in the country the same way that you

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Speaker 1: know a person who is here on a visa for

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Speaker 1: a week to go shopping in New York City. They're

787
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 1: both non citizens. Like, what doesn't tell you anything about

788
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: the situation? Really? You know, there was a bill in

789
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: Chicago that it's making its way for being law where

790
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: they're going to allow legal aliens to be police officers,

791
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: which I think is a tremendous abuse of the law.

792
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: If someone's in violation of federal law being here, how

793
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: could they be in a position to give you a

794
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: speeding ticket? Like this is the kind of world the

795
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: Democrats are creating for all of us. But back to

796
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: New York City for a second. Here, Clay, the Roosevelt

797
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: Hotel in Midtown Manhattan has a very long line of

798
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: people that are lying in the streets, They're sleeping in

799
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: the streets, and the city is supposed to have to house.

800
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: The Mayor Eric Adams is saying, there's no more room.

801
00:45:55,040 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: We can't do this. The city has fifty thousand migrants

802
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: in uh that it is caring for now these are

803
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: illegal aliens. For calling the migrants. Ninety three thousand have

804
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: come through the city's intake system in the last few months.

805
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: So four billion, Clay, four billion dollars now. It was

806
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: two billion a few months ago. Now it's four billion

807
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: that the City of New York is going to pay.

808
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: These are welfare cases, everybody. What we've been told is, oh,

809
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: a nation of immigrants. People are gonna show up. They're

810
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: going to do the jobs Americans won't do. They're more

811
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: law abody, and they'll contribute to the economy. Who else

812
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: is going to pay for your Social Security taxes? Blah blah.

813
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: All this stuff lies. This is a massive fraudulent welfare

814
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: catastrophe unfolding New York City. This is why people are

815
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: paying taxes so much that they got to leave. Speaking

816
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 1: from experience, it's crazy, Clay. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And what I would add on this buck is, don't

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00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 2: forget Mayor Eric Adams who bragged about how they wanted

819
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 2: all of these illegal immigrants in New York City. As

820
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 2: we talked about last week, I believe with Texas Governor

821
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 2: Greg Abbott is now saying our cup run is over,

822
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 2: that the city cannot handle the number of illegal immigrants

823
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: that have been moved into New York City. And all

824
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 2: I would say is, think about this in the context

825
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 2: of the state of Texas. Think about buck in the

826
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: This is a big reason why too, I think you're

827
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Speaker 2: seeing the overall Hispanic vote swing so substantially towards Donald

828
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Speaker 2: Trump and or whomever the Republican nominee ends up being

829
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 2: because we're all being sold to bill of goods, We're

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00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 2: all being sold to lie. And I would love have

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Speaker 2: you ever heard a Democrat ask this question, if America

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Speaker 2: is so racist, why are so many black and brown

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00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 2: people willing to die to get here?

834
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: You ever hear.

835
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 2: Anybody ask that question when Eric Adams or AOC or

836
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 2: Muriel Bowser to make of DC or the new mayor

837
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Speaker 2: in Chicago, all these people who are regularly spouting the

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00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 2: America is a fundamentally racist place. Corey Bush, right, this

839
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Speaker 2: idiot congresswoman from Missouri, Rashida talib all of these different people,

840
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 2: elon omar If America is such an awful place and

841
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 2: it's so systemically racist. Nicole was it Hannah Smith or whatever?

842
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 2: The woman who did the sixteen nineteen project? Why are

843
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 2: they never asked? Wouldn't that be a really good question? Hey,

844
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 2: I understand you think America is systemically racist. Do you

845
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 2: think it's Cole Hannah Jones?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Now, Cole Hannah Jones, My apologies. How come they

847
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: never get asked? Buck? Why are so many black and

848
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: brown people willing to die? Do you want me to

849
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: answer this from the left wing perspective, because I actually

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Speaker 1: I know what they'll say. They would say, they say that, well,

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00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: it's because America has accumulated so much well through the

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Speaker 1: exploitation of black and brown people at home and abroad.

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00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: So it is the duty of America now to redistribute

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00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: that wealth to minorities, even if they've just arrived here,

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00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: even they just got here.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I think that's just saying I think

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00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: that's a horrible line of argument. But I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: that is how they would respond to.

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Speaker 2: Well, that is an argument, okay, but it doesn't explain

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00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 2: why they would be willing to die to come here, right.

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Speaker 1: Because it's the richest country with now pretty much the

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Speaker 1: biggest best welfare state, so.

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Speaker 2: It is the richest country. But if it were truly

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Speaker 2: a racist country, is what I'm saying. I understand why

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Speaker 2: their argument would be, we need to provide benefits here.

867
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Speaker 2: But if America were truly racist, right, you would say,

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Speaker 2: why would I leave Mexico, Why would I leave Venezuela.

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Speaker 2: Why would I leave an African country and go to

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Speaker 2: the supremely racist country of the United States. All of

871
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Speaker 2: those people deciding to come here directly refutes the idea

872
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Speaker 2: that America is racist, because if you really thought thought

873
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Speaker 2: that America was racist, you wouldn't leave your country to

874
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Speaker 2: come here. And yes, I understand the argument of the leftist,

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Speaker 2: which is we are obligated due to the racism of

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Speaker 2: the country. But what I'm saying is the people who

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Speaker 2: are coming here don't even buy into the Democrat argument,

878
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Speaker 2: which is why I think you're seeing so many people

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Speaker 2: who are recent immigrants, Cubans, Venezuelan's legal immigrants, who are

880
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Speaker 2: overwhelmingly rejecting the Democrat Party because the same reason buck

881
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Speaker 2: when you felt that the attack on DeSantis was an attack.

882
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Speaker 1: On you to move to Florida.

883
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Speaker 2: Those people feel like they're being attacked, like, wait, I

884
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Speaker 2: came here because of America's freedom and the fact that

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Speaker 2: everybody's treated equally.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean again, the left wing, you know,

887
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Speaker 1: the left wing, like Salon dot com argument on this

888
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Speaker 1: is they just come for the money and the economic opportunity,

889
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Speaker 1: and they'll deal with the racism to get those opportunities.

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Speaker 1: I've seen this, had this debate with lives on Immigration before,

891
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Speaker 1: and that's what they'll say. I think it's a garbage argument,

892
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Speaker 1: but I'm just saying that is the response that they

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Speaker 1: have to it. I also know Clay come with this

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Speaker 1: from the perspective of I don't even really care that

895
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Speaker 1: much because we have laws here, and we have three

896
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Speaker 1: hundred and forty million people who already live here of

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Speaker 1: all races and ethnicities, and we are all supposed to

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Speaker 1: be held to the law, and we are supposed to

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Speaker 1: have a system. We're supposed to have an immigration system

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Speaker 1: that benefits the people here. What people who are not

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Speaker 1: Americans want and their desires to come here are a

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Speaker 1: should be at least a secondary consideration to what do

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Speaker 1: the American people want. And part of the problem.

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Speaker 2: Here is whatever we vote for the uniparty overrides, and

905
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Speaker 2: that includes Republicans. Whatever we vote for as a population,

906
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Speaker 2: which is always in recent years, stricter immigration, the laws

907
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Speaker 2: of the border, more border security. I mean, when it's

908
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Speaker 2: put to the people, why did Donald Trump win in

909
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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, he won primarily people can say it was

910
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Speaker 2: also but an immigration argument is an economic argument.

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Speaker 1: These things are very much tied in. And that's why

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Speaker 1: I'm pointing out the four billion dollars. I mean, look

913
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Speaker 1: at some of these expenditures. New York City is paying

914
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Speaker 1: one point eight set aside one point eight billion dollars

915
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Speaker 1: for teachers who failed tests because they can't do basic skills.

916
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Speaker 1: But they were supposed to teach people. So they're paid

917
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Speaker 1: for twenty years of teaching that they never did because

918
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Speaker 1: they're black or brown and therefore discriminated against by the test.

919
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Speaker 1: Now the city has all these migrants, most of them

920
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Speaker 1: are from Central and South America now and they're showing up.

921
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Speaker 1: It's going to cost four billion dollars. That is money

922
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Speaker 1: that the City of New York is taking from the

923
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Speaker 1: people who already lived there, including I mean, New.

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Speaker 7: York is a very diverse place, right, This is you know,

925
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Speaker 7: the tax is being paid by every small business owner,

926
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Speaker 7: every immigrant who owns a small store, a grocery store,

927
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Speaker 7: a laundramatic at hardware, whatever. They're all paying taxes so

928
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Speaker 7: that people can break our laws and Clay, they're not

929
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Speaker 7: asylum seekers. They're not asylum seekers. None of them are

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Speaker 7: going to get asylum. This is the whole thing is

931
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Speaker 7: a scam.

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Speaker 2: And that's why to me, ultimately, this comes back to

933
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Speaker 2: what draws. One is jobs, and that is a function of, frankly,

934
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Speaker 2: the fact that we have the best business environment, at

935
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Speaker 2: least in some red states still in the history of

936
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Speaker 2: the world. Okay, second part is buck and I would

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Speaker 2: build on this. This is even more frustrating. A lot

938
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Speaker 2: of those people are going to have kids that immediately

939
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Speaker 2: become American citizens. And then in addition to what you're

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00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 2: paying now, you are going to be paying for those

941
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Speaker 2: kids who are American citizens for years to come. Which

942
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Speaker 2: is why. And I've only seen a few Republicans even

943
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Speaker 2: talk about this. I think Trump has come out and

944
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Speaker 2: said it, but he hasn't focused on it very much.

945
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Speaker 2: We've got to en birthright citizenship. And again, there are

946
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Speaker 2: two types of birthright citizenship. One is if you are

947
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Speaker 2: a citizen and you have a child, I think everybody

948
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Speaker 2: out there would agree your child should be an American citizen. Okay,

949
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Speaker 2: no matter where you're living around the world. I think

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Speaker 2: most people overwhelmingly agree with that. But this idea that you,

951
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Speaker 2: because you are born on American soil become a citizen

952
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Speaker 2: is fundamentally the antithesis of what citizenship represents in most

953
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Speaker 2: countries around the world. It sets up an incentive for

954
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Speaker 2: law breaking that will be rewarded, never mind punished. It

955
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 2: is rewarded and generation. You bring up a critical point

956
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 2: here about the asylum seekers. Did anyone did anyone hear

957
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Speaker 2: about millions of asylum seekers? Or what happened, what happened

958
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 2: in Central America, what happened in South America, what happened

959
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Speaker 2: all over the world.

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Speaker 1: People from Thailand, people from West Africa, people from Pakistan,

961
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Speaker 1: people from everywhere. Right. What changed? Well, they figured out

962
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Speaker 1: the human trafficking system, figured out that there was this loophole,

963
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Speaker 1: and then you had the system refusing to do anything

964
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Speaker 1: about the loophole, and it just got big. Now Trump

965
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Speaker 1: did something about it, and then Joe Biden came in,

966
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Speaker 1: and Joe Biden has now allowed this thing to get

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Speaker 1: so out of control that the City of New York

968
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Speaker 1: can't even afford fiscally to deal with all these You'd say,

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Speaker 1: hold on, why is it costing so much money? Because

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00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: you have people who are showing up who speak almost

971
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Speaker 1: no English, overwhelmingly, who have almost no education, who have

972
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Speaker 1: almost no marketable skills in an information based economy. I'm

973
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Speaker 1: not saying they won't work hard. I'm not saying they're

974
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Speaker 1: not good people. But they need a lot of resources.

975
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Speaker 1: This is just a fact. And the people that pay

976
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Speaker 1: those resources are the residents in this case of New

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Speaker 1: York City. And you know what they're calling for, Clay,

978
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Speaker 1: a federal bailout already. So for people who are living

979
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Speaker 1: in Oklahoma, and people who are living in Montana, and

980
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Speaker 1: people who are living in Tennessee who are like, well,

981
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Speaker 1: that's New York's problem, not if Biden gets four more years,

982
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Speaker 1: it's going to be your problem. They're gonna use your

983
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Speaker 1: tax dollars and run that debt even higher into the

984
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Speaker 1: sky thirty.

985
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Speaker 2: Two trillion and counting, and almost nobody's even talking about it.

986
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Speaker 2: And to put it into context, the Tea Party was

987
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 2: fed up when we hit ten trillion in.

988
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Speaker 1: Twelve thirteen years.

989
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 2: We've tripled what the tea party was complaining about, and

990
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,240
Speaker 2: a lot of it's going to non citizens. We've talked

991
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Speaker 2: about our friend and sponsor, Dutch Minden hall of Rad

992
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 2: diversified before. He's now the author of a new book

993
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Speaker 2: titled Money Shackles. He loves this topic, how to take

994
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 2: the debt that shackles us make it work in our favor.

995
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 2: In Dutch's mind, debt is the financial hamstring that Americans

996
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 2: have fought with for a long time. For instance, you

997
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 2: go to school, you get in debt. You buy a car,

998
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Speaker 2: you get in debt. He believes it's the wrong thoughts

999
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Speaker 2: and teaching. In Dutch's book, he'll give you his strategies

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Speaker 2: to use debt to your advantage, to tap into lucrative

1001
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Speaker 2: alternative investment vehicles, to redefine your American dream. Dutch is

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Speaker 2: on a mission to be at the forefront of the

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Speaker 2: greatest financial change in American history, and to look beyond

1004
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Speaker 2: Wall Street and see the future of alternative investments. It's

1005
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Speaker 2: now no longer just available to the super rich. The

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Speaker 2: old American dream dying fast. Get ready for the redefined

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Speaker 2: American dream. Go online to the raad dot com that's

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Speaker 2: it today.

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Speaker 1: Inspiring you to seek out the truth. The Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show