WEBVTT - NFL Draft Preview 0:00:05.058 --> 0:00:07.778 NFL Inside Report is the production of the NFL in 0:00:07.898 --> 0:00:22.378 partnership with I Heart Radio. Hey, what's quite everybody? This 0:00:22.498 --> 0:00:27.578 is Rhett Lewis here with another NFL Draft Twitter space here. 0:00:28.018 --> 0:00:31.178 And this is kind of cool because we're also doing 0:00:31.178 --> 0:00:35.138 this as essentially a simulcast for one of our podcast 0:00:35.418 --> 0:00:37.418 that I host a couple of times each week called 0:00:37.498 --> 0:00:40.578 NFL Inside Report, where we get to chat with our 0:00:40.938 --> 0:00:45.618 NFL network insiders and Rappaport, Tom Pella Sero, Mike Garifolo, 0:00:45.818 --> 0:00:49.698 all of our NFL media reporters are kind of the 0:00:49.778 --> 0:00:53.138 stories that they don't get to tell on TV, right, 0:00:53.258 --> 0:00:56.418 the stuff that kind of leads to the story and 0:00:56.418 --> 0:00:58.858 the end result that you see when they get on 0:00:58.898 --> 0:01:00.738 TV or when they tweet it out or put it 0:01:00.738 --> 0:01:03.098 out on Instagram. So all of that information, we kind 0:01:03.098 --> 0:01:05.098 of get the behind the scenes look at it. That's 0:01:05.098 --> 0:01:07.978 basically what we're doing for you guys here today and 0:01:08.098 --> 0:01:11.138 kind of associating that with the Draft. So Ian Rappaport 0:01:11.218 --> 0:01:14.018 and Tom Pella Sero are going to join us just 0:01:14.058 --> 0:01:16.658 as soon as they figure out what time zone they're in. 0:01:17.418 --> 0:01:21.178 It is specific time fellas in Las Vegas. Basically, mock 0:01:21.258 --> 0:01:23.778 draft season is coming to an end today. Daniel Jeremiah 0:01:23.858 --> 0:01:26.418 is going to have his final mock draft, the definitive 0:01:26.578 --> 0:01:30.418 mock draft projection that's gonna be coming up for you 0:01:30.418 --> 0:01:34.418 guys at nine pm Eastern time here in NFL Network tonight. 0:01:34.698 --> 0:01:37.498 And there's just so much intrigue. I cannot remember a 0:01:37.658 --> 0:01:41.018 draft that had this much curiosity at the top, at 0:01:41.098 --> 0:01:45.738 this much potential for kind of game changing picks and 0:01:46.618 --> 0:01:48.658 picks at the very top, even at number one. Like 0:01:48.698 --> 0:01:51.058 at this point, we still don't know who number one is. 0:01:51.778 --> 0:01:53.778 And so yeah, we're gonna talk to Ian and Tom 0:01:53.818 --> 0:01:59.298 about all the draft wild cards, the potential trades that now. 0:01:59.498 --> 0:02:03.658 Oh hey Ian, yeah, let's go. What's up man, what's 0:02:03.658 --> 0:02:08.378 going on? Just walking on the Belaggio my my live 0:02:08.458 --> 0:02:13.698 shot location at the Cosmos. Luxurious, tremendous spots. So knowing 0:02:13.778 --> 0:02:19.098 well how I mean in terms of live shot locations, um, 0:02:19.138 --> 0:02:22.018 sitting out there on the balcony at the Cosmo looking 0:02:22.058 --> 0:02:25.298 down at the draft set in the Blaggio Fountain lake there, 0:02:25.738 --> 0:02:28.498 it's got to be up there. In terms of white locations, right, 0:02:29.138 --> 0:02:31.778 it's up there. I would say my number one was 0:02:31.818 --> 0:02:34.298 in Philadelphia when it was me and basically like a 0:02:34.458 --> 0:02:38.378 nightclub actually just like a nightclub. So it was like 0:02:38.418 --> 0:02:40.658 craziness around me and I'm home, you on my computer, 0:02:41.098 --> 0:02:44.658 I'm cranking away and people are doing shots and that's 0:02:44.658 --> 0:02:47.778 more away. Yeah, yeah, that's well. Then it was great 0:02:47.778 --> 0:02:49.298 because then the draft finished and I could just have 0:02:49.378 --> 0:02:53.818 a drink um and then but and then the other 0:02:53.858 --> 0:02:57.538 one that was just amazing was Nashville. Okay, I was 0:02:57.618 --> 0:03:00.138 on the stage. It was kind of no frills, but 0:03:01.058 --> 0:03:04.538 people behind me, like it was absolutely madness. That was 0:03:04.978 --> 0:03:07.338 That was just one of the most fun experiences I've 0:03:07.378 --> 0:03:10.058 had in ten years of the draft, no, no doubt, 0:03:10.098 --> 0:03:13.018 Like watching the little remote camera we had kind of 0:03:13.058 --> 0:03:16.818 fly down Broadway that night of the draft, like seeing 0:03:16.858 --> 0:03:18.858 like I mean, it felt like Bourbon Street during Marti 0:03:18.858 --> 0:03:20.698 Gras for me being from New Orleans, Like there's just 0:03:20.738 --> 0:03:24.698 so many people out there, um right, and I imagine, 0:03:24.938 --> 0:03:27.618 but yeah, we could write we could have a similar 0:03:27.658 --> 0:03:29.978 scene like on the Strip on Thursday and Friday night. 0:03:30.738 --> 0:03:34.058 Um Man. I have heard, you know, I try not 0:03:34.178 --> 0:03:37.378 to pass along information, it's not reliable. I have heard 0:03:37.738 --> 0:03:42.018 five seven hundred thousand people could be in town during 0:03:42.098 --> 0:03:45.578 the draft just for the draft, just because like it 0:03:45.738 --> 0:03:49.698 could really get wild. You know, that's the admos forhere. 0:03:49.698 --> 0:03:51.978 Every Vegas was great anyway, but that's the atmos hravery 0:03:52.018 --> 0:03:54.858 that he wants, you know. Yeah, I mean, and you know, 0:03:55.018 --> 0:03:57.018 obviously we've been doing Path to the Draft every day 0:03:57.098 --> 0:04:00.058 with with Daniel Jeremiah, with Bucky Brooks, and you know, 0:04:00.138 --> 0:04:04.098 DJ's talking all these these you know, draft evaluators, college 0:04:04.098 --> 0:04:07.338 scouting directors GM and all this, and like I remember 0:04:07.418 --> 0:04:10.098 him like literally telling me about one player who we've 0:04:10.378 --> 0:04:13.858 had marked in the first round, like literally the entire 0:04:13.978 --> 0:04:17.738 time during mock draft season, and one GM actually had 0:04:17.778 --> 0:04:22.138 a sixth round grade on that player. Like that's that's wild, 0:04:22.458 --> 0:04:25.298 you know, to have thatch of the disparities. I just 0:04:26.378 --> 0:04:28.378 I mean, I just went through it right now with 0:04:28.498 --> 0:04:31.978 the GM. Right before I got on, we went through 0:04:32.058 --> 0:04:34.898 and went through an offensive I meant, I think it's 0:04:34.938 --> 0:04:37.178 gonna go in the first round that he had a 0:04:37.218 --> 0:04:41.738 fourth round grade on and talked about the quarterbacks, and 0:04:43.338 --> 0:04:46.138 you know, one of the quarterbacks that I think it's 0:04:46.178 --> 0:04:49.818 gonna go he had the highest grade. And this is 0:04:49.818 --> 0:04:51.858 a team not taking a quarterback. But I think that's 0:04:51.858 --> 0:04:54.578 what it's funn That's why, like some things are going 0:04:54.618 --> 0:04:57.338 to happen. I was enjoying whenever Policy Sara decided to 0:04:57.418 --> 0:05:00.098 join us, I was enjoying his article on first round 0:05:00.178 --> 0:05:03.338 surprises because this year there's gonna be some really really 0:05:03.378 --> 0:05:06.138 fun things. Yeah, definitely, you know. And by the way, 0:05:06.178 --> 0:05:08.938 that's out there NFL dot com slash Pellicero right now. 0:05:08.978 --> 0:05:11.858 A couple of guys like you know, Logan Hall being 0:05:11.938 --> 0:05:15.338 one of them there and um, you know the defensive 0:05:15.338 --> 0:05:17.778 tackle from Houston, which kind of represents a little bit 0:05:17.818 --> 0:05:20.058 of one of the surprises we had a year ago, 0:05:20.298 --> 0:05:22.378 you know, which was Peyton Turner and going to the Saints. 0:05:22.818 --> 0:05:24.618 And we'll get to that whenever he does. In fact, 0:05:24.618 --> 0:05:27.298 decided to find some WiFi and join us here. But 0:05:28.498 --> 0:05:30.418 well you don't even need WiFi, just a regular and 0:05:30.498 --> 0:05:32.938 cell sign really. Yeah, so it's a pretty good deal actually, 0:05:33.418 --> 0:05:35.658 So it turns out there's pretty good coverage of the 0:05:35.658 --> 0:05:39.298 strip in Vegas. Um. So you know the other part 0:05:39.298 --> 0:05:40.698 of this, because you mentioned it when you were talking 0:05:40.698 --> 0:05:43.298 about that conversation you have just had with the GM 0:05:43.498 --> 0:05:47.538 is the quarterbacks. Like we've gone everywhere on the quarterbacks, 0:05:47.738 --> 0:05:50.458 you know, from who the top quarterback is seems to 0:05:50.498 --> 0:05:53.698 differ depending on who you talk about where that quarterback 0:05:53.738 --> 0:05:57.938 will go? How high or or like on the flip side, 0:05:57.978 --> 0:06:00.618 like how long will it take until we get one 0:06:00.658 --> 0:06:03.338 off the board? Like do you have any sense right 0:06:03.338 --> 0:06:06.298 now of where the first one goes? And how many 0:06:06.298 --> 0:06:09.378 we end up getting in the first round? You? Yeah, 0:06:09.418 --> 0:06:12.938 I mean I feel like I do. I personally feel 0:06:12.978 --> 0:06:18.138 like we'll get one in the top ten, maybe two. Um. 0:06:18.298 --> 0:06:21.018 And you know, I think we'll probably get one of 0:06:21.098 --> 0:06:23.218 the back end of the first round as well. So 0:06:23.258 --> 0:06:27.818 I'm thinking three in the first round. Um. But then, 0:06:27.978 --> 0:06:30.258 like you know, and so what do I know? Right? 0:06:30.258 --> 0:06:33.258 I mean, I'm talking to everyone, but no one really 0:06:33.298 --> 0:06:34.858 says and the teams who are going to take a 0:06:34.938 --> 0:06:38.938 quarterback or like the most squarely cource, so you know, 0:06:38.978 --> 0:06:43.778 they want to keep that kind of keep it under wraps. Um. 0:06:43.818 --> 0:06:46.618 But there's other people who have really good information who 0:06:46.698 --> 0:06:51.498 think quarterback doesn't go until with the Steelers, which I right, 0:06:51.578 --> 0:06:55.658 which I think is crazy, but you know, that could 0:06:55.658 --> 0:06:58.458 be what we end up what we end up seeing. Um, 0:06:58.498 --> 0:07:01.058 I'm gonna go in an elevator up to my location. 0:07:01.178 --> 0:07:05.458 If I lose, I'm gonna keep talking. But if I leave, 0:07:05.538 --> 0:07:10.098 you just you know, sure sure thing. Thanks I And um, 0:07:10.138 --> 0:07:12.978 that's uh, that's that's the natural, you know, just the 0:07:13.098 --> 0:07:16.938 organic conversation here on the NFL Twitter Draft space. So 0:07:17.498 --> 0:07:19.778 now that's all good. Um. Yeah, So the quarterbacks are 0:07:19.778 --> 0:07:23.738 obviously some of the big wild cards. Um and you know, 0:07:23.778 --> 0:07:25.818 obviously Ian's gonna be talking about that all day on 0:07:25.978 --> 0:07:29.018 NFL Network. And as part of the draft broadcast, was 0:07:29.058 --> 0:07:32.458 that elevator music? It is actually elevating music in the 0:07:32.498 --> 0:07:36.018 elevating Yeah, oh what a deal. I mean, I don't 0:07:36.018 --> 0:07:38.418 know what else you're supposed to play, right, Like, there's 0:07:38.418 --> 0:07:42.458 never a time. Yeah, that would that would be it 0:07:42.658 --> 0:07:45.338 for sure. It's very it's a little too on the nose, 0:07:45.418 --> 0:07:48.818 but you know, there's what it is. So here's here's 0:07:48.858 --> 0:07:50.938 one of the one of the questions, because we've long 0:07:51.018 --> 0:07:53.378 kind of thought and by the way, are you saying, 0:07:53.578 --> 0:07:56.818 like from from your understanding with the Jaguars thinking Cam 0:07:56.938 --> 0:07:59.578 Robinson too, the three year, fifty four million dollar deal 0:07:59.738 --> 0:08:02.938 that that you put out there um on Twitter this morning, 0:08:03.898 --> 0:08:06.218 are you saying that that's tackle off the board for 0:08:06.258 --> 0:08:09.138 them at number one. I wouldn't say it takes it 0:08:09.178 --> 0:08:12.458 off the board, but it definitely is something to consider, 0:08:12.738 --> 0:08:16.298 like you know, I could understand why they take you know, 0:08:16.338 --> 0:08:18.938 why they would take a tackle right and then you 0:08:18.938 --> 0:08:22.698 can move on from the right tackle. They have Dan Taylor. 0:08:23.538 --> 0:08:27.298 You know, you can have Cam Robinson playing the right side. 0:08:27.418 --> 0:08:29.698 But you know, the thought of taking someone in the 0:08:29.698 --> 0:08:32.018 first overall pick having to play on the right side 0:08:32.018 --> 0:08:37.458 and definitely seems like not reality to me. I'm thinking edge, 0:08:37.498 --> 0:08:40.778 I'm thinking defense. Yeah, And and look, I think that's 0:08:40.898 --> 0:08:43.818 that's part of the conversation here. We were talking on 0:08:43.898 --> 0:08:46.178 path to the draft of this week about yeah, you know, 0:08:46.218 --> 0:08:48.578 Cam Robinson's back on the franchise tag. No, they're talking 0:08:48.618 --> 0:08:50.858 about a long term deal. They took Walker Little in 0:08:50.858 --> 0:08:54.578 the second round last year, they took John Taylor in 0:08:54.578 --> 0:08:57.338 the second round a couple of years ago, and you know, 0:08:57.378 --> 0:08:59.658 if you take a tackle, you know they we were 0:08:59.698 --> 0:09:02.538 kind of likening it to Doug Peterson's situation in Philly 0:09:02.618 --> 0:09:05.258 when he won the Super Bowl and made it let's go. 0:09:05.418 --> 0:09:09.098 You did nice, um, Jason, how about that. I was 0:09:09.138 --> 0:09:11.938 just casually filling until you got off the elevator. Uh, 0:09:12.538 --> 0:09:15.018 Jason Peters on the left side and Lane Johnson on 0:09:15.058 --> 0:09:17.218 the right side to the best tackles in football and 0:09:17.298 --> 0:09:19.578 a big part of that Super Bowl run for Philly, 0:09:19.698 --> 0:09:22.018 And you know, there was talk that it's it's Doug 0:09:22.058 --> 0:09:25.138 Peterson making the push ian four a tackle regardless of 0:09:25.138 --> 0:09:27.578 what happens with Cam Robinson because you knew he was 0:09:27.618 --> 0:09:31.378 gonna be there this year anyway, back on the franchise 0:09:31.418 --> 0:09:33.338 tag for the second year. So I'm just kind of 0:09:33.338 --> 0:09:36.338 wondering if that, you know, if that still keeps tackle 0:09:36.418 --> 0:09:38.058 on the board even though they have the long term 0:09:38.098 --> 0:09:40.618 deal with Cam then and maybe it's Dikia Kwanu and 0:09:41.018 --> 0:09:42.978 you know, he can play some guard or right tackle 0:09:43.218 --> 0:09:45.178 until you figure out, you know, what you want to 0:09:45.178 --> 0:09:48.178 do there permanently, right, you know, I understand all that. 0:09:48.218 --> 0:09:51.898 I'm not saying that. I'm just saying when we're talking 0:09:52.898 --> 0:09:56.058 a you know, number one hit, someone who is a 0:09:56.098 --> 0:10:00.138 difference maker, someone who you know, you you hope that 0:10:00.218 --> 0:10:03.658 it is a premium position. You hope that it is 0:10:03.738 --> 0:10:06.818 someone who will play a spot where you're like, I 0:10:06.898 --> 0:10:08.978 don't have to worry about this for years to come. 0:10:09.738 --> 0:10:12.018 And to me, the uncertainty of like did you just 0:10:12.058 --> 0:10:13.898 take a tackle or do we just take a guard 0:10:13.938 --> 0:10:17.538 at number one makes me makes me kind of lean defense. 0:10:18.018 --> 0:10:19.898 And but but even then, like, do we really know 0:10:19.978 --> 0:10:21.938 which Eddrusher is going to be at number one? If 0:10:21.978 --> 0:10:24.338 that's the position they go, Is it Aidan Hutchinson with 0:10:24.378 --> 0:10:26.938 the production or is that the projection in Trayvon Walker 0:10:26.978 --> 0:10:32.138 from Georgia. Like they're still intrigued even in that scenario, right, yeah, yeah, 0:10:32.338 --> 0:10:35.298 and you know it is. It has been fascinating to 0:10:35.338 --> 0:10:38.178 watch what has happened, not that anything has happened to 0:10:38.778 --> 0:10:41.178 Aidan Hutchinson, because like, if he doesn't go one, I 0:10:41.258 --> 0:10:44.658 guess as he goes to UM. But everyone has been 0:10:44.658 --> 0:10:48.178 pretty clear on that Walker has more upside and is 0:10:48.218 --> 0:10:50.938 more explosive, except when you actually look at the numbers, 0:10:50.978 --> 0:10:54.258 which is not the case at all, UM, But that's 0:10:54.258 --> 0:10:56.578 sort of what everyone has decided. I actually have some 0:10:56.658 --> 0:11:01.858 breaking news. This is important. Tom Pellisera has joined the chat. 0:11:04.058 --> 0:11:11.658 MM hello, hey man, how are you? You know? We're 0:11:11.658 --> 0:11:15.178 staying at a very nice hotel. I've enjoyed. The accommodations 0:11:15.218 --> 0:11:17.938 are shot list grade. If there's one complaint, it is 0:11:18.018 --> 0:11:22.298 there is zero shell serviness and terrible WiFi, so we're 0:11:22.298 --> 0:11:24.938 working around it. I made disappear in ten seconds. Ask 0:11:25.018 --> 0:11:29.818 all your questions very fast, because I may be gone anytime. Okay, great, 0:11:30.178 --> 0:11:32.698 got it? Uh inter at board top Filla, Sero, Red 0:11:32.738 --> 0:11:36.098 Lewis here on a little NFL Draft Twitter spaces, but 0:11:36.178 --> 0:11:39.738 also kind of giving you a glimpse of what episodes 0:11:39.778 --> 0:11:42.658 on NFL Inside Report the podcast are. Like these guys 0:11:42.978 --> 0:11:45.418 Ian and Tom are always gracious with their time and 0:11:45.458 --> 0:11:49.418 enjoin us and give us all the score yea amount 0:11:49.418 --> 0:11:53.138 of time that we give to you. It's like, hey, yeah, 0:11:53.338 --> 0:11:56.018 I mean like this is technically your podcast. I mean 0:11:56.058 --> 0:11:58.738 like this is this is yours. This is the NFL 0:11:59.098 --> 0:12:05.898 essentially Inside or with the apostrophe s Report. So it's 0:12:05.938 --> 0:12:08.618 one way to describe it. Yeah, it is. It definitely is. 0:12:08.698 --> 0:12:10.418 But look, we're glad to chat with both of you 0:12:10.418 --> 0:12:14.138 guys here Tom. Where is your biggest like kind of 0:12:14.258 --> 0:12:17.858 draft curiosity right now, like your biggest wild card where 0:12:17.858 --> 0:12:19.578 you're kind of curious as to what things are going 0:12:19.658 --> 0:12:21.818 to happen and how you know, the picks shake out 0:12:21.898 --> 0:12:26.618 after let's say a certain team makes their selection. Everything. Yeah, 0:12:26.618 --> 0:12:29.178 it's it's it's everything from the top of the draft 0:12:29.218 --> 0:12:32.298 all the way through. It's you know, a draft class 0:12:32.338 --> 0:12:37.618 where you have what teams regard as fewer ready made 0:12:37.738 --> 0:12:41.018 blue chip type prospects. I know there are, you know, 0:12:41.058 --> 0:12:43.258 Steve Time the Cardinals, GM has said that he's got 0:12:43.298 --> 0:12:45.898 over twenty first round grades. I would consider that to 0:12:45.938 --> 0:12:48.778 be an outlier. I've talked to teams, many of them 0:12:48.778 --> 0:12:52.298 who have under twenties. Certainly there are at least a 0:12:52.338 --> 0:12:55.418 few that have under fifteen first round grades, which means 0:12:55.458 --> 0:12:58.218 you've got a great deal of variance, especially when coupled 0:12:58.258 --> 0:13:00.778 with the quarterbacks and if you're going to have some 0:13:01.178 --> 0:13:03.498 rise picks in the back half around one. I think 0:13:03.498 --> 0:13:06.778 that where the quarterbacks is the biggest question in this 0:13:06.898 --> 0:13:10.138 draft because as much as everybody can say, it's not 0:13:10.258 --> 0:13:11.858 a year that you know if you want to do 0:13:12.018 --> 0:13:14.018 this one. You don't know what is happening over there 0:13:14.018 --> 0:13:15.938 with you guys. Uh, it's not a year where you 0:13:15.938 --> 0:13:24.018 want to I'm making coffee about gracious, you don't want 0:13:24.018 --> 0:13:25.618 to have you don't want to have to need a 0:13:25.658 --> 0:13:29.538 quarterback this year. There's it's a lot of projection, there's 0:13:29.538 --> 0:13:32.338 holes in everybody, but quarterbacks tend to go and there 0:13:32.338 --> 0:13:35.578 are teams with needs. So when that begins, whether it's 0:13:35.578 --> 0:13:38.018 in the top twenty, whether it's in potentially even the 0:13:38.058 --> 0:13:41.138 top ten, that's going to dictate a lot of other things. 0:13:41.298 --> 0:13:43.658 Once the first quarterback goes. As we've seen time and again, 0:13:43.698 --> 0:13:45.978 there's always that possibility that a couple more are going 0:13:46.018 --> 0:13:49.058 to go quickly after, because everybody gets antsy about when 0:13:49.058 --> 0:13:52.258 they're gonna be gone. Yeah, I also want to chime 0:13:52.298 --> 0:13:54.818 and just let you guys know, and I'm usually pretty transparent. 0:13:54.938 --> 0:13:57.658 I'm gonna be getting makeup, um while I talk to 0:13:57.658 --> 0:14:00.458 you guys. So you know, if you hear the the 0:14:00.578 --> 0:14:04.138 light sounds of a makeup rush stroking my face, that's uh, 0:14:04.178 --> 0:14:06.458 that's what's happening. This is great. So like this is 0:14:06.458 --> 0:14:08.658 the behind the scenes stuff that everybody wants, right. Ian's 0:14:08.658 --> 0:14:11.178 getting makeup, He's making coffee, Tom's trying to find Wi Fi, 0:14:11.258 --> 0:14:13.058 and we're just trying to figure out what the heck 0:14:13.098 --> 0:14:15.378 is going on with the draft here in just over 0:14:15.418 --> 0:14:18.338 twenty four hours. Let me ask you this while Ian 0:14:18.338 --> 0:14:22.618 gets his makeup here, Tom, Um, we've been kind of 0:14:23.018 --> 0:14:25.898 slotting in Edge Rusher one way or another to the 0:14:25.978 --> 0:14:31.658 Lions at two. The Texans at three have an opportunity 0:14:31.658 --> 0:14:33.178 to be one of the power players in the early 0:14:33.178 --> 0:14:35.098 part of the first round. With picks at three and thirteen, 0:14:35.138 --> 0:14:36.618 they're a bit of a mystery because they could literally 0:14:36.618 --> 0:14:39.338 go anywhere in terms of you know which position they 0:14:39.338 --> 0:14:42.618 want to go to. But it feels like the cornerbacks, 0:14:42.818 --> 0:14:46.498 and not just Sauce Gardener, but Derek Stingley as well, 0:14:47.098 --> 0:14:50.538 have kind of entered to borrow phrase from Ian entered 0:14:50.578 --> 0:14:53.258 the chat there at two and three, Um, do you 0:14:53.338 --> 0:14:55.338 guys feel it time? Do you feel like the corners 0:14:55.618 --> 0:15:00.018 could go that high? There's certainly a possibility, in part 0:15:00.058 --> 0:15:03.338 because those two guys, Derek Stingley and Sash Gardner are 0:15:03.378 --> 0:15:06.538 really considered that top of the class. Then you've got 0:15:06.578 --> 0:15:09.218 you know, Tim McDuffie, who some teams a few more 0:15:09.218 --> 0:15:12.138 as a nickel than as an outside corner. You've got 0:15:12.138 --> 0:15:15.058 guys like Kyer Eelam from Florida who may go sooner 0:15:15.098 --> 0:15:18.858 than a lot of people are expecting. But anytime you've 0:15:18.858 --> 0:15:22.698 got position scarcity, especially at a core position in the 0:15:22.738 --> 0:15:25.178 modern NFL, I mean, look at the money the wide 0:15:25.178 --> 0:15:27.578 receivers are getting. You can't put a price on the 0:15:27.658 --> 0:15:31.458 corners to stop them. And so I would absolutely anticipate 0:15:31.498 --> 0:15:34.418 that those two, potentially both could be gone in the 0:15:34.458 --> 0:15:37.058 top ten. And then you're going to have some teams 0:15:37.138 --> 0:15:39.738 you know, beyond the top ten who were hoping initially 0:15:39.778 --> 0:15:41.818 you're a couple of weeks ago those corners would slide. 0:15:41.818 --> 0:15:43.338 Who Now we're gonna have to figure out you make 0:15:43.378 --> 0:15:45.978 a move up? Do you trade map Uh, there's a 0:15:45.978 --> 0:15:49.258 lot of possibilities. Absolutely would not surprise that Houston took 0:15:49.258 --> 0:15:52.018 a quarter at three UM. But that's just one scenario, 0:15:52.138 --> 0:15:54.458 especially because nickos Sario has the AMMO if he wants 0:15:54.498 --> 0:15:57.538 to trade back up from thirteen and potentially get two 0:15:57.578 --> 0:16:01.378 picks on the top ten. What's interesting about these scenarios was, 0:16:01.418 --> 0:16:04.458 like you talk about position scarcity, that really does drive 0:16:04.498 --> 0:16:08.458 a lot of the right. Like there's two corners who 0:16:08.498 --> 0:16:10.698 I think everyone considers to be the top guys. Now 0:16:10.738 --> 0:16:13.498 Stanley has a few more questions because he's you know, 0:16:13.538 --> 0:16:16.618 work on the field is not as in depth I 0:16:16.618 --> 0:16:18.858 would say in his last couple of years. Right, not great, 0:16:19.578 --> 0:16:21.218 as long as you can make your peace with that. 0:16:21.258 --> 0:16:23.058 I mean, he is one of the top two corners, 0:16:23.138 --> 0:16:25.498 maybe the utile rner. Not a lot of those guys 0:16:25.738 --> 0:16:28.058 talk about edge rushers like there is a chance to 0:16:28.218 --> 0:16:31.858 those slides and gets to nine ten, But like if 0:16:31.898 --> 0:16:35.578 it's not him, then who? Right? Like so you know, 0:16:35.658 --> 0:16:38.458 let's say Jermaine Johnson gets up to ten, eleven, twelve, 0:16:38.538 --> 0:16:42.258 like somebody may trade up for him, whether he's sort 0:16:42.298 --> 0:16:44.818 of merits it or not, because if you don't get him, 0:16:44.818 --> 0:16:47.258 like who are you actually getting? Like that's a big 0:16:47.378 --> 0:16:50.018 driver of these trades. Yeah, I mean like outside of 0:16:50.058 --> 0:16:51.938 those top four edge rushers, if we get four off 0:16:51.938 --> 0:16:53.778 in the top ten, like we've kind of been thinking 0:16:53.818 --> 0:16:56.298 this whole time, then you know you're starting to look 0:16:56.338 --> 0:16:58.618 at the George carl offices of the world. Boy A 0:16:58.778 --> 0:17:03.138 maffe or Old Katie Uh, you know, like Nick Benedo, Um, 0:17:03.178 --> 0:17:05.058 when you get in you know, to the back into 0:17:05.098 --> 0:17:06.578 the very back end of the first round and then 0:17:06.618 --> 0:17:08.458 top of the second round. There was just some of 0:17:08.458 --> 0:17:10.418 the names that Tom brought up in his kind of 0:17:10.458 --> 0:17:14.978 wild cards late first round pick piece on NFL dot 0:17:15.058 --> 0:17:19.498 com dot com slash call sero for that. Um, Tom, uh, 0:17:20.058 --> 0:17:22.458 you kind of talked about trades, and then I love 0:17:22.458 --> 0:17:25.138 to getting into chime in on this as well. I mean, 0:17:25.178 --> 0:17:27.138 like everyone's talking about, yeah, it'd be great to trade back, 0:17:27.178 --> 0:17:29.378 but somebody's gonna want to trade up. Like at the 0:17:29.458 --> 0:17:32.178 end of the day, like how much movement do you 0:17:32.218 --> 0:17:33.898 feel like we're really going to see in the top ten. 0:17:35.218 --> 0:17:36.978 We're still a little ways out here. A lot of 0:17:36.978 --> 0:17:41.218 these conversations get real on draft Day, and even more 0:17:41.258 --> 0:17:43.738 so as the draft develops. I think that's just because 0:17:43.778 --> 0:17:46.298 of the uncertainty of what's going to play out, even 0:17:46.338 --> 0:17:49.138 within the first few picks. I would tell you this, 0:17:49.578 --> 0:17:52.458 A lot of gms are going through every scenario with 0:17:52.498 --> 0:17:55.058 every team, and that's not entirely unusual, but this year 0:17:55.218 --> 0:17:57.058 there's a little bit more emphasis on it, just because 0:17:57.058 --> 0:17:59.618 there's so many different ways that this could go. So 0:17:59.938 --> 0:18:01.458 a lot of times when you hear about the teams, 0:18:01.458 --> 0:18:03.818 you know, making calls about trading up odds and they're 0:18:03.818 --> 0:18:06.218 also making calls about trading back, just because you have 0:18:06.298 --> 0:18:09.098 to be prepared for different scenarios. I do think that 0:18:09.138 --> 0:18:12.138 there could be movement. I think that it may happen 0:18:12.178 --> 0:18:15.818 a little bit further down than what people are anticipating. Again, 0:18:15.818 --> 0:18:18.898 wherever you draw that line for your first round grades, 0:18:18.938 --> 0:18:21.618 and it's gonna be different on every board, You're generally 0:18:21.618 --> 0:18:23.818 going to try to get one of those players you've 0:18:23.818 --> 0:18:25.978 got it through one on which might require you top 0:18:26.098 --> 0:18:27.618 or if they're all gone you can't move up, then 0:18:27.658 --> 0:18:29.338 you're gonna try to move back because you probably have 0:18:29.338 --> 0:18:32.458 more similar grades on some other guys. I think you'll 0:18:32.498 --> 0:18:35.418 get some trades, you know, potentially in the teams, just 0:18:35.418 --> 0:18:37.098 because teams are gonna be looking at the Saints and 0:18:37.218 --> 0:18:39.858 Steelers in their back market. Does somebody try to leap 0:18:39.898 --> 0:18:42.338 frog them and get the guy that they want? All 0:18:42.378 --> 0:18:45.618 those are certainly possibilities. Yeah, And I think you know, 0:18:45.658 --> 0:18:48.378 if you look at the way this draft is so 0:18:48.498 --> 0:18:51.658 strange the way it's happened, but like there's multiple teams 0:18:51.698 --> 0:18:53.578 with multiple first round picks, and they're all kind of 0:18:53.618 --> 0:18:56.498 clumped together right eight, which is I mean, this is 0:18:56.538 --> 0:19:00.098 like just wild but um, and so like they happen 0:19:00.138 --> 0:19:03.058 to being bunches, like you get know, Packers are bolt 0:19:03.138 --> 0:19:06.418 in the late twenties. You have, uh, the Chiefs are 0:19:06.458 --> 0:19:11.738 back to back right in the lake in the thirty 0:19:12.018 --> 0:19:14.898 and so what I would imagine is you have a 0:19:14.938 --> 0:19:18.178 situation where like both of those teams probably won't make 0:19:18.298 --> 0:19:21.418 both of those picks right then. You know, Chiefs are 0:19:21.778 --> 0:19:25.538 trade up possibility, Packers are a trade out possibility. Both 0:19:25.538 --> 0:19:29.338 of them, as we've detailed extensively, have a need of receiver. 0:19:29.578 --> 0:19:31.938 Does either of them trade up for receiver. Do they 0:19:32.018 --> 0:19:34.538 get after the safe guy like there's whoa, whoa whoa 0:19:34.978 --> 0:19:37.778 and get really fun for one. The Packers don't take 0:19:37.818 --> 0:19:40.418 receivers in the first round. It's been twenty years and 0:19:40.458 --> 0:19:42.578 you so you think they might trade up to get 0:19:42.578 --> 0:19:44.938 a position that they don't take in the first round. 0:19:45.898 --> 0:19:51.338 When Brian Goodkins want something, he is incredibly aggressive for it. Okay, 0:19:51.578 --> 0:19:54.978 so yeah, I could see. I mean, yes, like Ted 0:19:55.018 --> 0:19:57.018 Thompson would not have done that, but these are not 0:19:57.058 --> 0:20:03.258 Ted Thompson's right. That's intriguing. While we're sitting there in 0:20:03.258 --> 0:20:05.618 the back half here of the first round, those those 0:20:05.618 --> 0:20:08.498 back tend to twelve picks. Uh make up gone well? 0:20:08.538 --> 0:20:10.338 By the way, Yeah, glad to hear it. Glad to 0:20:10.378 --> 0:20:12.978 hear if I'm action on. I'll give you a couple 0:20:13.018 --> 0:20:15.418 of other decision points here that I've kind of been 0:20:15.458 --> 0:20:19.498 identifying throughout this draft process. We talked about the Carolina 0:20:19.538 --> 0:20:23.498 Panthers at number six and quarterback seems like a spot 0:20:23.578 --> 0:20:26.658 right there where that could certainly be you know, where 0:20:26.698 --> 0:20:30.098 the Panthers go. But if they don't, it would make 0:20:30.138 --> 0:20:32.138 sense there too. They need a left tackle. They don't 0:20:32.178 --> 0:20:34.578 have a pick in the second or third round, so 0:20:34.618 --> 0:20:36.978 they'll pick at six and then again until the fourth round. 0:20:37.018 --> 0:20:38.898 So certainly would make some sense there if they do 0:20:39.018 --> 0:20:42.938 make a move back. Um, but you know that's they 0:20:43.018 --> 0:20:44.978 got to have a willing trade partner to come up 0:20:45.018 --> 0:20:46.978 and who's somebody coming up for there? So there's a 0:20:46.978 --> 0:20:49.578 lot of different variables. The Falcons at eight are really 0:20:49.618 --> 0:20:51.858 intriguing to me. I think Terry Fontineau, the GM there 0:20:51.858 --> 0:20:53.778 in Atlanta, said that they want to get a quarterback 0:20:53.818 --> 0:20:57.618