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Speaker 3: Here we go. It's hour two, it's a Friday. We

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Speaker 3: got good stuff.

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Speaker 1: World Baseball Classic's been amazing. I'm still gonna defend Bam

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Speaker 1: outa by you. Gotta that guy get ripped apart by

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Speaker 1: the NBA fraternity. I don't get it at all. And

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Speaker 1: he's got a hysterical bite on that. Bam out of

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Speaker 1: by you is h You know, he reminds me a

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Speaker 1: little bit of another former Miami Heat player, you Donnis Haslam.

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Speaker 1: Good guys, low profile, work their butt offs, just perfect

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Speaker 1: Miami Heat culture guys. And I mean just the NBA

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Speaker 1: savagely went after him, and I don't buy any of it.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to that in about five minutes. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna support BA. I'm gonna buy You's eighty three point

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Speaker 1: spectacle in a couple of minutes. But all right, the

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Speaker 1: draft's coming up in April. A draft can absolutely change

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Speaker 1: a franchise.

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Speaker 3: If you get the right quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So the Raiders getting Fernando Mendoza, that's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: big deal. Okay, But I think, really, when I look

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Speaker 1: coaching iires, I look at free agency, and that's about

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Speaker 1: seventy five to eighty percent of what the new league

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Speaker 1: is going to look like. And maybe I'm being optimistic

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Speaker 1: on some of these free agent signings, but a lot

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Speaker 1: of GMS made moves I agree with. So here's my

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Speaker 1: top ten pre draft. Draft may tweak a spot or two,

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Speaker 1: but I doubt it does a lot. And here we

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Speaker 1: go number ten. Number ten, I would say Detroit. I

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Speaker 1: thought they had a coordinator issue last year, not a

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Speaker 1: personnel issue. Drew Petsing new oc. I think it's going

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Speaker 3: Listen.

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Speaker 1: They've had a top five offense in four straight seasons,

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Speaker 1: and last year they had a coordinator issue where Dan

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Speaker 1: Campbell had to take over play calling and they were

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Speaker 1: still viable nine to eight. So I think they're going

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Speaker 1: to improve by two or three wins. I love their

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Speaker 1: front office you know. I like Jared Goff, respect Dan

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Speaker 1: Campbell Lions at ten, number nine Patriots.

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Speaker 3: Now why do I bring him down?

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Speaker 1: Well, they go from the historically easiest NFL schedule in

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Speaker 1: fifty years to the sixth toughest. They lose to Von Diggs.

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Speaker 1: They add Romeo Dobbs. That's kind of a wash to me.

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Speaker 1: They had Kevin Byron in the back end of their defense,

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Speaker 1: who's an interception machine. I love the coaching, the owner,

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Speaker 1: the culture. I just think the AFC had a down year.

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Speaker 1: Lamar's back right, like Mahomes won't get hurt again. The

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Speaker 1: Chargers will be better. Denver bo nicks another healthy offseason.

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Speaker 1: So I think New England at nine eight. I think

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Speaker 1: Sean Manyon the new OC is gonna work. I thought

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Speaker 1: Tarik Woolan grabbing him at corner. I didn't think it

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Speaker 1: was a position of need. The Eagles now have the

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Speaker 1: best cornerback troika a trio in the league by a lot,

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Speaker 1: so it's not like they didn't need didn't have enough

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Speaker 1: talent defensively. Now they added an elite, Pro Bowl level

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Speaker 1: corner I think Manyon listen. Nick Siriani is very coordinator dependent. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's just the reality. He needs a Kellen Moore, he

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Speaker 1: needs a Shane Steichen. I think Manyon could be good.

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Speaker 1: I have Philly at eight. Number seven. Listen, the smart

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Speaker 1: They added David Montgomery the running back. I think that

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Speaker 1: just couldn't They couldn't produce consistent run totals last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's worrisome that C. J. Stroud has regressed, but they're

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Speaker 1: still winning their division AFC South. Their favor to win

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Speaker 3: Than a lot of people think. I like the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: Listen, they had the worst O line in the league

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Speaker 1: They're going to win eleven plus this year. They get

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Speaker 1: Rashaun Slater and Joe altback at tackle. They have a

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Speaker 1: They also added Mike McDaniel, who I think is one

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Speaker 1: I think this is going to be a team that's

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Speaker 1: number five Broncos. People may forget this, but in that

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Speaker 1: is a league of attrition, and they just picked a

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Speaker 1: bad week to be playing in the divisional round. Team

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Speaker 1: Great head coaching, great line play. Denver at five, number four.

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Speaker 1: I'll put Josh Allen an inch ahead because he's Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: I think Bradley Chubb again kind of a sneaky smart

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Speaker 1: Moore to me are some really nice b plus added elements.

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Speaker 1: Buffalo at four, number three the Seahawks. I think it's

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Speaker 1: almost impossible to win back to back. I think Kenneth

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Speaker 1: Walker leaving is a real thing now. If it was

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Speaker 1: a great running back draft, I wouldn't worry much. It's

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Speaker 1: They've got really good leadership on this team and really

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Speaker 1: good players. But they had to move off some really

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Speaker 1: nice football players. That's what happens when you win a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Guys want to eat Seattle. I have him

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Speaker 1: at three, number two the Bears. To me, first round

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Speaker 1: what I see again a really sneaky stat with the Bears.

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Speaker 1: They were the third best rushing team in the league

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Speaker 1: last year, and you think it's about Caleb and the

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Speaker 1: They're probably not going to lead the league in takeaways

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Speaker 1: the Bears at number two, Number one. The Rams, they

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Speaker 1: solved their dilemma. Corner Trent McDuffie top five corner teammate

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Speaker 1: and last year the Rams really had issues in their secondary,

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Speaker 1: elite corner And there you go. There's my post coaching hires,

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Speaker 1: So I got Baltimore eleven. I got Jacksonville twelve, and

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Speaker 1: that's where we stand today. Okay, So I gotta defend

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Speaker 1: Bam out of Bio. So Bam out of Bayou is

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Speaker 1: a pros pro All NBA defense five times, two time Olympian,

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Speaker 1: very much a heat culture guy, plays on both ends,

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Speaker 1: excellent pro and a couple of nights ago he drops

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Speaker 1: eighty three, and I defended him. I said, Okay, got

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Speaker 1: a little doctorate at the end. But he had thirty

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Speaker 1: after three. If he just played a normal fourth, he

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Speaker 1: scores seventy one. But he scored eighty three. That surpassed Kobe,

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Speaker 1: and people didn't like it, and and the pitchforks and

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Speaker 1: the knives came out, and I'm like, guys, this is

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Speaker 1: not a this is not a random guy that you know.

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Speaker 1: He scores, he defends, he's an Olympian, he's a legitimate player.

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Speaker 1: And Spoilster is not a guy that doctors stuff up

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Speaker 1: here was bam on his critics after an eighty three

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Speaker 4: First of all, y'all are blaming me, You should be

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Speaker 4: blaming their hair. Coach. Get that first.

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Speaker 5: I was not the one let me go one on

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Speaker 5: one the whole game until I started, until I had seventy,

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Speaker 5: and then you started to send a double.

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Speaker 4: At that point I got seventy with like what nine

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Speaker 4: minutes left to go in the game. You think I'm

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Speaker 4: not going for it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, you got seventy one points nine minutes.

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Speaker 1: Everybody knows the Kobe number. I'm gonna go after the

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Speaker 1: Kobe number. I don't have any problem. Spoe could be

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Speaker 1: my favorite coach in the NBA. Suppose like, get over it, people.

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Speaker 6: I apologize to absolutely no one period. I'm not losing

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Speaker 4: What's ethical, what's not?

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Speaker 6: All this stuff happened under two minutes, Like I said,

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Speaker 6: We're going to go for it. It was just an

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Speaker 6: amazing moment, you know, to be a part of that,

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Speaker 6: and I would do it ten times out of ten.

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Speaker 1: By the way, when people say that's not basketball, was

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Speaker 1: hack a shack. Not basketball, of course, it was shack

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Speaker 1: was a bad free throw shooter.

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Speaker 1: I was in that arena when he began the hack

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Speaker 1: a Shack with his Portland Trailblazer team. They couldn't stop him.

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Speaker 1: They started fouling him. Fans hated it. It's real basketball, okay.

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Speaker 1: When I was a kid growing up, Dean Smith used

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Speaker 1: to get a lead in North Carolina and they would

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Speaker 1: run four corners offense and they would free out the

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Speaker 1: other team's offense. There was no shot clock. Was that basketball?

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Speaker 1: It was allowed. There's a lot of stuff in sports

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Speaker 1: that it's almost like being an accountant. You're always looking

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Speaker 1: for loopholes and how to manipulate.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you see sometimes in the NFL you bring

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Speaker 1: in like a third tackle and he's an eligible receiver.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's not real football. Yes, under the rules it is.

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Speaker 1: What they did in the last couple of minutes of

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Speaker 1: the game is legal. By the way, right now, I've

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Speaker 1: defended tanking. Tanking today you can say it it's not allowed.

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Speaker 1: I watched it all year with Indiana. I watched it

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Speaker 1: with Utah. It's allowed. So you can try to shut

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Speaker 1: off accountants. They're going to find loopholes. And I just

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Speaker 1: don't have any problem with a pros pro, a great organization,

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Speaker 1: a great coach saying, Okay, we got nine minutes lefties

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Speaker 1: at seventy, we're going for the Kobe number. I'm not

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Speaker 1: losing any sleep over that. I mean, James Harden for

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Speaker 1: I defend SGA, and I say, the leading scorer in

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Speaker 9: I defended Bam Gonna Bay you. I'm like, guys, he

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Speaker 9: Is nothing unethical about that because he had to shoot

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Speaker 3: It wasn't Ewing or Karmel. I loved Bernard King.

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Speaker 9: I think you you lay it out and you say, hey,

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Speaker 9: Nobody is going to be Yannis. Nobody's going to be honest.

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Speaker 9: I think the Knicks are competing, but the East is

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Speaker 9: turning out to be a monster now because that matchup.

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Speaker 4: You know, they may have the.

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Speaker 9: Heat, I think their third Let's say they they played

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Speaker 9: three six Miami heat. That's still gonna be a tough matchup.

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Speaker 9: And then you look how Orlando's been playing now, Boston,

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Speaker 9: holy crap, the Calves when they're healthy. You know, all

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Speaker 9: these teams. It's just it's gonna be a monster in

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Speaker 9: the Eastern Conference.

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Speaker 1: I want to circle back one more question Channing Fry

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Speaker 1: for our radio audience. One of my favorite guys thirteen

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Speaker 1: years in the NBA, played with Kyrie and Dwayne and

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Speaker 1: Lebron and Grant Hill there and I I threw this

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Speaker 1: out there. Lebron James is still really good individually in

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Speaker 1: the team construct with the Lakers, he shouldn't have the

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Speaker 1: ball as much, and I do wonder. You know, Lebron

448
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Speaker 1: was very mobile and his messaging MJ made the sport global.

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Speaker 1: Lebron made it mobile that you had to at least

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Speaker 1: consider moving. And the downside to that is that you're

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Speaker 1: always like a consultant. You don't feel like a true

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Speaker 1: family member. K D's got this too. You kind of

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Speaker 1: bounce around the and you did some of this. You

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Speaker 1: bounce around the league, and you don't you missed that Kobe,

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Speaker 1: Derek Jeter, John Elway thing. Do you think, going back

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Speaker 1: and looking at everything for Lebron, if you had to

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Speaker 1: get inside his head and say, okay, you wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: gone to the Lakers. You would have stayed with Miami.

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Speaker 1: You would have done Cleveland and Miami. Because I look

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Speaker 1: at Lebron and I think he may not even get

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Speaker 1: a statue in LA because eight years you know now

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Speaker 1: it's minute restrictions.

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Speaker 3: He's got a COVID title.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Lebron has any regrets in his career

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Speaker 1: about his mobility?

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Speaker 9: Absolutely not, absolutely not. Like, look, they traded Luca away

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Speaker 9: in the middle of the night. Did you see the teams?

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Speaker 9: Now this is we talk about all time great. I

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Speaker 9: don't care if you got him one, two or three

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Speaker 9: on your list. Did you see the talent that he

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Speaker 9: was taken to the NBA Finals? So he is as

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Speaker 9: a player is supposed to just say, I trust you

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Speaker 9: with my career. He would have never been in the conversation,

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Speaker 9: or that's not true. He might have been in the

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Speaker 9: conversation if he had stayed in Cleveland. Might if he

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Speaker 9: had never if he because he went to Miami, because

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Speaker 9: he won, because he was on that that floor, that

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Speaker 9: showcase with those guys, he can now say look at

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Speaker 9: this ring, look at this ring. When he came back,

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Speaker 9: it was the right time for him to come back

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Speaker 9: to win a chip and then go to the finals.

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Speaker 4: Four more times with that team, right and only one once.

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Speaker 9: Then going to La was like, hey, this time has

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Speaker 9: ended here because I see the riding on the wall.

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Speaker 9: We're in the cap like we're on the on the apron.

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Speaker 9: Now we have to rebuild. It happens like look at

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Speaker 9: Yannis right now. Yannas should have left two years ago. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: and now look at the bucks. So he's stuck there basically,

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Speaker 9: and so is that good for him?

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Speaker 4: Think about Yanis on the Knicks. We'd be watching Yannis

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Speaker 4: what going for a title right now.

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Speaker 9: Jana's probably already got a jet burned down to go

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Speaker 9: to back to Greece, Like it's not, it's not. It's

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Speaker 9: a different era with the salary cap, with all these

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Speaker 9: things they traded Tyrese Halliburton, so what the first year,

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Speaker 9: second year of his career, like what he didn't want

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Speaker 9: to do that, but.

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Speaker 4: Think about now.

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Speaker 9: He might get a statue in Indiana when he's done

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Speaker 9: unless something happens. And I don't think I don't think

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Speaker 9: it's says you should just go to team to team

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Speaker 9: the team, But I think if you're strategic and your

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Speaker 9: team goes to the finals or you're competing for a

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Speaker 9: chip every year, then you're making the right decision, especially

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Speaker 9: if you're an all time great.

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Speaker 1: Channing as always, it's great talking to you. We're going

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Speaker 1: to bring it back as we get close to the

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Speaker 1: playoffs and into the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: I love having you on the shell. My man, appreciate you.

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Speaker 4: Thank you guys, all right.

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Speaker 1: Channing Fry, he's just full wisdom and insight, and he's

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Speaker 1: played with great coaches and great players. And that that

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Speaker 1: to me is the downside of kind of bouncing around

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Speaker 1: to the better jobs, is you're not like family anywhere.

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Speaker 1: And you know a lot of you watching the show

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Speaker 1: it bounced around for jobs and commerce and like there

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Speaker 1: is sort of that like jel At, that envy of

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Speaker 1: the cul de sac, like you lived on the same

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Speaker 1: cul de sac. You're barbecued with the same families for

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Speaker 1: thirty five years.

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Speaker 3: And you know, you.

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Speaker 1: Don't get that if you're you know, chasing commerce, and

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Speaker 1: that's what Lebron did.

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Speaker 3: John Middlecoff with the News.

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Speaker 2: Heard on the News, This is the herd Line News.

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Speaker 10: Well, speaking of bouncing around, Mike Tomlin spent almost two

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Speaker 10: decades with the Pittsburgh Steelers, but he's going to be

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Speaker 10: a free agent. He stepped away, and uh, since stepping away,

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Speaker 10: we haven't heard much from him. And last night he

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Speaker 10: was at a Steeler event and he had some thoughts

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Speaker 10: on his tenure with the Steelers.

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Speaker 5: This often said, you know, we're not here for a

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Speaker 5: long time. We're here for a good time. Like you

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Speaker 5: have to choose, and you know, I think our experience

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Speaker 5: here in Pitts with the Great Steel Organization exemplified that. Man,

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Speaker 5: we were here for a long and really good time.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a good way to put it. I

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Speaker 1: do think at the end it was time for a

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Speaker 1: new voice. Whether McCarthy's the right voice, he is the

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Speaker 1: right side of the ball.

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Speaker 3: But I mean Tomlin.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the one thing when I think of Tomlin

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Speaker 1: is he was a great underdog coach because that leaned

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Speaker 1: into his strength motivation, Like if he went into a

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Speaker 1: game and nobody gave him a shot, that's when Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: was at its most dangerous. They they weren't always great

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Speaker 1: as a favorite, they were very good as a dog.

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Speaker 1: And I mean they were always relevant under Tomlin, which

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Speaker 1: in this league you can't say that about. Outside of

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Speaker 1: maybe the Packers or Belichick's Patriots, a lot of teams

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Speaker 1: aren't even relevant year after year.

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Speaker 10: Well, well think about this, since O seven, he has

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Speaker 10: more wins than guys like Harbaugh, Andy Reid, Sean Payton.

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Speaker 10: What are those three guys have in common?

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Speaker 4: They're on new teams.

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Speaker 10: You know, Belichick kind of got washed out of the league,

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Speaker 10: but those three guys, Sean Payton just in the AFC

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Speaker 10: Championship game, Andy re goes and wins Super Bowls. If

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Speaker 10: you tell me that, John Harbaugh, and rightfully so, was

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Speaker 10: the number one target. The Giants went all in. The

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Speaker 10: gave him a hundred million dollars. If Tomlin chooses, who knows,

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Speaker 10: he'd go have a Gruden of Madden. He could be

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Speaker 10: a TV star. But I think the NFL is better

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Speaker 10: with him in it. Yeah, knowing you think he's the

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Speaker 10: clear number one candidate this next coaching cycle in January

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Speaker 10: of twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: Well, and yeah, and I think you know it's interesting

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Speaker 1: because John, you and I have discussed this is that

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Speaker 1: the NIL actually in most instances LSU is an exception

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Speaker 1: firing Brian Kelly, but the NIL keeps top college coaches in.

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Speaker 1: If they're thinking, you know, if Ohio State ever lost

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Speaker 1: their mind and thought we're going to get rid of

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Speaker 1: Ryan Day, well you've got twenty five million a year

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Speaker 1: in NIL payments, facility upgrades. You want to pay sixty

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Speaker 1: eight million to get rid of Ryan Day. I've said

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Speaker 1: this Aboutncoln Riley. In a different era, Lincoln would be

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Speaker 1: in trouble. They're spending thirty million dollars on the USC

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Speaker 1: payroll this year and three hundred million on a facility.

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Speaker 1: They're not writing a seventy million dollar check. So the

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Speaker 1: truth is a lot of these college guys, who could

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Speaker 1: you know, be on the precipice of leaving. I think

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Speaker 1: they're going to stay in college. They've got big contracts,

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Speaker 1: and so I mean, either hire a hot coordinator or

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Speaker 1: you hire Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 3: And that seems pretty obvious to me.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, like Signetty makes thirteen million dollars a year. I

587
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Speaker 10: mean he's college goes to make huge money. I do

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Speaker 10: think there are two jobs to keep an eye on.

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Speaker 10: He got his career really kind of jolted early on

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Speaker 10: before he became a head coach Tampa Bay. If things

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Speaker 10: get weird with Todd Bowles and listen, Jerry Jones the Cowboys,

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Speaker 10: if it doesn't go great with Brian Schottenheimer. They've made

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Speaker 10: a lot of moves. I think Mike Tomlin is going

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Speaker 10: to have multiple offers in January of twenty seven. Okay,

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Speaker 10: you and I disagree on this one a little bit.

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Speaker 10: I know you're high on Kyler Murray and in the

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Speaker 10: Minnesota situation, we can dive into it, but first let's

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Speaker 10: take a listen to Kyler and his draw from growing

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Speaker 10: up a Minnesota fan.

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Speaker 2: Ever since I started.

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Speaker 8: Playing tackle football I was seven years old.

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Speaker 3: I was seven years.

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Speaker 8: Old, genuine, genuine fandom rare. You know, ran deep vikings

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Speaker 8: year through and through a lot of purple in my household,

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Speaker 8: got crowd real tiers whenever, you know, whenever bred through

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Speaker 8: that interception, crowd real tiers that day.

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Speaker 3: How about that he loves football.

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Speaker 10: John, Well, here's my thing, Kevin O'Connell, his success as

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Speaker 10: a coach has come with pocket quarterbacks. You know, Donald

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Speaker 10: can move, but he did a lot of his damage

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Speaker 10: from the pocket. Same thing with cousins. Kyler Murray is

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Speaker 10: a mobile playmaker right well, and listen, there's no disputing

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Speaker 10: he's one of the great American athletes of all time.

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Speaker 10: He was the number one overall pick in the tenth

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Speaker 10: pick in baseball. Yeah, you know, so he is an

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Speaker 10: elite athlete. But is he anymore? He's had multiple lower

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Speaker 10: body injuries. Is he still quite as fast?

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Speaker 4: Listen?

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Speaker 10: He's five to nine, so he's not gonna stand there

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Speaker 10: like Sam Donald six four and be able to see

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Speaker 10: this is Kevin O'Connell likes the pass, but he's gonna

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Speaker 10: have to do it a little bit different with this

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Speaker 10: type player. And my other question is that they got

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Speaker 10: him for free, right that they paid one to three

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Speaker 10: three million dollars. Would they have wanted him if he

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Speaker 10: cost ten or fifteen million dollars?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, though, Neil, I think that's a fair question.

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Speaker 1: I think what makes Malik will It's so attractive is

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Speaker 1: twenty million dollars twenty two million dollars, and I like Malik,

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Speaker 1: I think your concerns are legitimate. But this team won

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Speaker 1: nine games with JJ McCarthy, who is not a big

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Speaker 1: strapping guy and also moves pretty well.

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Speaker 3: I guess my take is.

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Speaker 1: Arizona is on a short list, John, and I mean

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Speaker 1: a really short list of a dysfunctional place.

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Speaker 3: I mean it might be one. I mean different.

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Speaker 1: I mean they've ruined a lot of good players, good gms,

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Speaker 1: and good coaches who have moved on and done just

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Speaker 1: fine with their lives.

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Speaker 3: I think the level of.

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Speaker 1: Dysfunction in Arizona is only right today by Cleveland and

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Speaker 1: the Jets.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 1: I think I think Vegas will become much less dysfunctional

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Speaker 1: this point forward. So I think you're gonna watch Kyler

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Speaker 1: and go oh, Kyler's in a good move. Kyler's a

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Speaker 1: little more verbal, Kyler's a little better, you know, more stationary.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is he felt like

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Speaker 1: he was metaphorically and literally running for his life in Arizona.

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Speaker 10: I'd imagine, remember Ben Johnson did this with Caleb body language,

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Speaker 10: the way you carry yourself harped on that last year

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Speaker 10: in OTAs and in training camp. I would imagine that'll

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Speaker 10: be a big thing with Kevin O'Connell. Yeah, Okay, Last,

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Speaker 10: but not least, the Cowboys, who they've made a lot

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Speaker 10: of moves here right They've added edge rusher Rashaan Gary

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Speaker 10: from Dallas, who obviously had a lot of success with

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Speaker 10: the Green.

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Speaker 4: Bay Picker Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 10: Gary played for the Cowboys defensive coordinator Christian Parker as

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Speaker 10: a rookie, and they're also reuniting him with Kenny Clark.

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Speaker 10: Jerry said, the Cowboys are not in the you know,

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Speaker 10: Max Crosby market right now. Won't rule anything out. What

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Speaker 10: do you think's going on with all these Dallas defensive

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Speaker 10: line moves? I mean, Colin, they've had a ton from

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Speaker 10: Micah to all these guys to going after Max Crosby.

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Speaker 4: A lot of moving parts in Dallas.

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Speaker 1: I will say this between Rashaun Gary, Quinn Williams, Kenny Clark,

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Speaker 1: Demarvian Overshown, and I think they're going to spend their

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Speaker 1: first two picks Sean, my guess is it will be

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Speaker 1: corner in safety or safety in corner. My take is

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Speaker 1: their front.

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Speaker 3: Now is good.

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Speaker 1: That's an above average front and because you're paying all

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Speaker 1: those guys and those salary cap hits go up, you

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Speaker 1: got to get cheap on the back end of your

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Speaker 1: defense because, as you know Dak CD Pickens, that's expensive.

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Speaker 1: So they're a very top heavy franchise with seven guys

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Speaker 1: eating all the cap. So I think what they have

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Speaker 1: to do. And they just got a number three pick

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Speaker 1: from San Francisco trading the defensive lineman to the Niners.

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Speaker 1: My take is their first three picks will be back

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Speaker 1: into their defense or maybe at tight end with their

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Speaker 1: number their third round pick, but I think they're going

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Speaker 1: to go heavy defense and cheapen up that side of

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Speaker 1: the ball.

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Speaker 4: Here's what I know.

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Speaker 10: We all like the Giants because of the coach, but

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Speaker 10: the quarterback has to prove that he could stay on

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Speaker 10: the field. Right The Cowboys offense is fantastic. I mean,

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Speaker 10: Dak has really turned into a consistent top ten quarterback,

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Speaker 10: really good player. If their defense is just solid, Like

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Speaker 10: say what you want about Schottenheimer, his rapport with Dak,

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Speaker 10: the offense, the wide receivers, what he did with George Pickens,

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Speaker 10: Dallas could be sneaky pretty good if their defense is solid,

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Speaker 10: because we know their offense is borderline elite. I mean,

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Speaker 10: who's to say they couldn't win ten or eleven games

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Speaker 10: next year and compete to win that division and be

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Speaker 10: a playoff team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the mystery team in that division to

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Speaker 1: me is Washington. Now, Philadelphia is too talented. If Sean

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Speaker 1: Mannion's fine, they're gonna win double digit games. I think

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Speaker 1: the Giants are going to clearly double their win total.

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Speaker 1: And Dallas with this defensive front, should be competent. It

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Speaker 1: should be a competent team. Washington's the mystery. Dan Quinn

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Speaker 1: had to replace his staff. You've got Adam Peters, who

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Speaker 1: is viewed by some as a basketball guy masquerading is

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Speaker 1: a football guy. I feel like I kind of know

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Speaker 1: what Dallas is going to be. They're gonna move the ball,

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Speaker 1: They're going to have a better pass rush. They don't

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Speaker 1: have an elite coaching staff, so they won't win a

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Speaker 1: lot of the close games, the situational moments, but they'll

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Speaker 1: be noticeably better on the defensive side.

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Speaker 10: One thing you know about the Cowboys, they nail a

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Speaker 10: lot of first round picks, and this year they got

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Speaker 10: two in the top twenty. They could be dramatically more

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Speaker 10: talented on defense come the start of the year.

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Speaker 3: Yep, John Middlecoff with the news.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and noone Easter, not a Empacific.

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Speaker 1: All right, Coaching's all done, Free agencies wrapped. Here's my

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Speaker 1: top ten teams for a variety of reasons. A couple

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Speaker 1: of teams I like just because of coordinators they've hired.

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Speaker 3: I have Detroit and the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: I feel really good about because I like the coordinators,

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Speaker 1: the offensive coordinators they hired. The Seahawk lost a great coordinator.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna drop them down. I think one of the things, John,

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Speaker 1: that I've noticed is that, you know, we've always talked

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Speaker 1: about quarterbacks, general managers, head coaches, coordinators. I mean, one

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Speaker 1: of the reasons I like Minnesota is Brian Flores, you know,

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Speaker 1: now with an offensive coach. Chicago, I don't care about

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Speaker 1: their new offensive coordinator because I think Ben Johnson's very

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Speaker 1: scheme centric. He's great at it. Anybody here too high

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Speaker 1: or too low in your opinion?

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Speaker 10: No, I mean I think the NFC coming into the

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Speaker 10: year is pretty good. I think we still got some

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Speaker 10: major question marks with CJ. Stroud, how he's going to play,

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Speaker 10: you know, in some of these big games. He was

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Speaker 10: not good in the playoffs. The health of the Chargers

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Speaker 10: is always a concern. The Bills have a brand new

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Speaker 10: coach I like, you know, I like the Bradley Chubb

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Speaker 10: DJ Moore. You know, I did look and then I

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Speaker 10: grabbed my binoculars to double check, because I did. The

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Speaker 10: forty nine Ers Colin they beat the Rams. Yeah, in

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Speaker 10: Los Angels, brock Purty outplayed Caleb. They beat the Bears

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Speaker 10: on that Monday night football game Seattle. They beat them

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Speaker 10: as well.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 10: The last two games didn't go as well, and they

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Speaker 10: beat the Eagles in the in the playoff game. I

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Speaker 10: don't say the forty nine they won twelve games, and

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Speaker 10: I think you agree they have one of the best

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Speaker 10: coaches in the league.

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Speaker 1: Well, they lost Sla so again, Drew, that is a

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Speaker 1: major law. I thought Salo was as good as coordinator

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Speaker 1: as a sport had last year.

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Speaker 4: I agree.

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Speaker 1: I also big touch year for Kittle, for Trent, for McCaffrey,

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Speaker 1: Bose off an injury, Warner off an injury when I don't,

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Speaker 1: and that's why the Mike Evans move. It's like, guys,

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Speaker 1: your top seven. You could make an argument they're top

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Speaker 1: seven players. None are in their prime. I guess brock

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Speaker 1: perty is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: I would say this about Mike Evans last year he

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Speaker 10: broke his collarbone. He is fits their mold, Fred Warner Kittle,

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Speaker 10: Trent very seriously. He had twenty four touchdowns the previous

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Speaker 10: two years. Drake Greenlaw, who was kind of off in Denver,

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Speaker 10: he is back again. These are older players, some injuries,

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Speaker 10: twelve wins last year and beat a lot of those

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Speaker 10: teams that I see on your list, and they have

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Speaker 10: an elite coach. But I'm with you on on the

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Speaker 10: sala Raheem morrise right is not a good head coach,

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Speaker 10: but he's a fantastic number two.

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Speaker 3: He's Sean mcvay's right hand man.

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Speaker 4: So I think that.

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Speaker 10: I mean, listen, the NFC West is packed with really

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Speaker 10: good teams. The Broncos, right, it got a little weird.

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Speaker 3: With Bo and Sean.

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Speaker 10: It'll be interesting that they're team's really good on paper.

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Speaker 10: I think they're kind of an interesting team. Do they

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Speaker 10: take that next step and be like a true Super

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Speaker 10: Bowl contender? They come back to the pack a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I think Denver is I think we know what Denver

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Speaker 1: is because of bow Knicks. Had sixty one college starts.

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Speaker 1: I think you saw a ceiling by the beginning of

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Speaker 1: this year, Like this is by October, late October. I'm

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Speaker 1: watching bow Knicks and I feel like I kind of

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Speaker 1: know what he is. Athletic, accurate, underneath, fiery guy. Wish

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Speaker 1: he was a little bigger, good arm not great. I

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Speaker 1: feel like because all those college starts, I feel like

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Speaker 1: I kind of know what he is.

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Speaker 3: With Caleb, with Drake May.

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Speaker 1: When he came in, he was unpolished, so I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I don't even count the first year, and then late

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Speaker 1: second year You're like, oh, this guy's actually really really good.

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Speaker 1: But I kind of feel like Denver, this is what

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Speaker 1: they are, is what they are good enough to win

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Speaker 1: a ring.

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Speaker 3: I think it's close