1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: The Team forty seven podcast is sponsored by Good Ranchers 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Making the American Farm Strong Again. 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 2: Team forty seven with Clay and Buck, starts. 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 3: Now talking this morning at this rural health roundtable. Why 5 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 3: does this matter? Well, healthcare matters to all of us. 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 3: The cost is outrageous, The system is a mess. The 7 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 3: government intervention in this has been nothing but disastrous. They've 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 3: made it worse. Obamacare made it worse across the board, 9 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 3: and specifically, rural areas have gotten the short end of 10 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 3: the stick on this one. Trump was talking about Obamacare. 11 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 3: This has cut to specifically and how Medicaid spending. For example, 12 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 3: it's pretty much all just going into the cities, the 13 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 3: population centers, and a lot of Democrat votes there play two. 14 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 4: Rural hospitals and communities were devastated by soareign costs, and 15 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 4: that continues despite colossal increases in government spending. Since Obamacare 16 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 4: was passed. Only seven percent of the annual Medicaid spending 17 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 4: on rural hospitals has gone to rural hospitals, So there's 18 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 4: only a very little. They didn't care. Obama didn't care 19 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 4: about the rural community. It'd be totally blunt what he 20 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 4: did care about is insurance companies. And this was a 21 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 4: bill to make insurance companies wealthy, and they did. They 22 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 4: made insurance companies very wealthy. I would say, they don't 23 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 4: like me too much because they spent hundreds of billions 24 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 4: of dollars, and we're going to have that money spent 25 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 4: to the people and given to the people, not we're 26 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 4: going to circumvent the insurance companies play. 27 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 3: He recognizes that if you're talking affordability, the single place 28 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,559 Speaker 3: where I think people are finding the most pain over 29 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 3: the longest period of time is their healthcare costs or 30 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 3: just outrageous. 31 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: Yes, and Obamacare is a failure. So, by the way, 32 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: is the argument that if we stopped some of these 33 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: subsets for Obamacare that remember when I this was a 34 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: big topic of discussion. I do think it's important to 35 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: come back sometimes when these awful predictions don't come true 36 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: and say, hey, remember when we were all told. I 37 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: think that the Democrats said seven million people would lose 38 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: health insurance if the subsidies were dialed back for Obamacare, 39 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: and open enrollment has basically ended, and there's about a 40 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: million less people enrolled in Obamacare than were before. You 41 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: might say, okay, well a million is still a decent number, 42 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: and okay, but what seems to be happening, Buck is 43 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: and this is why Democrats the fraud is so rampant 44 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: in all this healthcare. A lot of people are getting 45 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: signed up for Obamacare, potentially millions of them, and the 46 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: healthcare companies are getting subsidies, and the healthcare is not 47 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: being used at all. So this is real, and I 48 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 1: understand a lot of people out there gets into the 49 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: nitty gritty. We don't talk about it that much. A 50 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: lot of people that have Obamacare now it appears when 51 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: they basically have to enroll and have to get themselves enrolled. 52 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: The healthcare companies are incentivized to sign up as many 53 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: people as possible so they can take advantage of these subsidies. 54 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: A lot of the people in Obamacare never use Obamacare 55 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: at all, Buck, They don't pay even five dollars. So 56 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: the healthcare companies are getting paid to cover people who 57 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: either don't need the coverage or don't even know that 58 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: they have it. Does that sound like a good system 59 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: to you? It's waste with fraud. 60 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 3: It's also not insurance, which we all know from Do 61 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 3: I pay more for wind insurance? Here in Miami where 62 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 3: we have hurricanes than people will who you know live 63 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 3: in I don't know. Is Tennessee wind insurance a big thing. 64 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 3: Clay probably not. We have tornadoes, Oh sorry at tornadoes Okay, 65 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 3: well others probably probably. 66 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: I would say Vermont there's not a ton of win insurance. 67 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: I don't think they have very many tornadoes. Hurricanes typically 68 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: not hitting Vermont. I would bet maybe you guys are 69 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: gonna blow me up and tell me I'm wrong. I 70 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: would bet that there's not a lot of concern about 71 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: wind damage in Vermont. 72 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 3: You know, I have a whole plan that we need 73 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 3: to just make Vermont red right. It's not hard. We 74 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 3: could get did very easily. Tennessee could lend us enough 75 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 3: Republicans easily to colonize Vermont. I love Vermont as a state. 76 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 3: It's beautiful. I used to go to camp there in 77 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 3: the summers. I highly highly recommend it to any of 78 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 3: you if you can get there. But it's Bernie Sandersville. 79 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 3: I mean the politics there are it's pure COMMI it's 80 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 3: beautiful place. Anyway, Well, I'll talk about my Vermont planet. 81 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 3: I got Greenland, I got takeover Vermont for the Republicans. 82 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 3: I got a lot of things going on here, But 83 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 3: back to the healthcare thing, Clay, we don't it's not 84 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 3: actually insurance because the whole system is set up so 85 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 3: that people who are young and healthy are paying for 86 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: people who are old and sick. It's a transfer of wealth, 87 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 3: it's a it's a program of incredibly complicated subsidies where 88 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: the corporation also, because of the way these Obamacare is 89 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 3: written in the way a lot of these bills are 90 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: written up, the corporations, the companies, the healthcare providers are 91 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: incentivized to deny a lot of claims for people. They're 92 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 3: incentivized to make sure that they're making a profit as 93 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 3: an administrator of healthcare, but they don't actually provide healthcare. 94 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 3: This is people don't understand we have this whole system 95 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 3: with so much fraud and wasting it. Medicaid fraud annually, Clay. 96 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 3: I think they estimated is like eighty billion dollars. Well, 97 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 3: did you. 98 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: See we talked about this with Scott Besson. He came 99 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: on and echoed. 100 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 3: Elon mus Well. He said ten percent of the entire 101 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 3: US budget is fraud. 102 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 1: Yes, six hundred to eight hundred billion dollars, depending on 103 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: how you define it as fraud, and he said, we 104 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: could probably increase GDP by a substantial margin if we 105 00:05:55,279 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: just reallocated those resources outside of the fraud category. And so, yeah, 106 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: a huge part of the fraud comes from healthcare, and 107 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: obviously we're seeing a huge part of the fraud comes 108 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: from any number of federal programs which subsidized state fraud. 109 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: Like what really started this whole Minneapolis mess was the 110 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: degree of fraud going on in their daycare system, which 111 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: led to President Trump's decision to surge resources there for 112 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: ICE to go after all of the fraud that's taking 113 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: place in that community. We should mention this too. We're 114 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: talking to Ryan Gardeski next hour. He has pointed out 115 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: something that's very significant about this, and we should have 116 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: talked about it. Smart credit to him for thinking of it. 117 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: The amount of deportations that are occurring is potentially going 118 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: to alter to a substantial degree the twenty thirty census, 119 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: because remember, for purposes of House of Representatives representation, illegal 120 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: immigrants are counted in the census fleet seven hundred and 121 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: twenty thousand citizens in each district in the United States, 122 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: four hundred and thirty five districts. 123 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 3: They counted legal immigrants. 124 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: This gives Democrats a plus ten or so benefit at 125 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: least in the House, and we're talking about the entire 126 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: House of Representatives being decided by a couple of seats, 127 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: So starting in twenty thirty, that advantage is going to vanish. 128 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: This is one of the big impacts why Democrats are 129 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: fighting so hard. Their rigged system is collapsing around them 130 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,119 Speaker 1: and they're seeing it happen. 131 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 3: Trump also saying here that they've increased funding for rural 132 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 3: health care. You know, rural tends to mean red in 133 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 3: this country. This is cut one. Listen to what the 134 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 3: man has to say. 135 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 4: As part of the great, big, beautiful bill, where increased 136 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 4: and we have increased funding for the healthcare by an 137 00:07:54,080 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 4: unprecedented fifty billion dollars. That's rural healthcare. Nobody thought that 138 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 4: I was going to happen, and we got it done. 139 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 4: So we have rural health care. For those that were 140 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 4: trying to make a case that we weren't taking care 141 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 4: of the rural community, I'm all about the rural community. 142 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 4: We won the rural communities by numbers that nobody's ever 143 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 4: won them before, and we're taking care of those great people. 144 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 3: So we already did this. 145 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 4: We increase funding for rural health care by an unprecedented 146 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 4: record setting fifty billion dollars over five years, which will 147 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 4: benefit Americans in all fifty sis. 148 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: It's a big deal, Clay Wall Street Journal, I just 149 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: mentioned this, and again, I understand a lot of you 150 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: don't necessarily get into the weeds of health care policy. 151 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: But basically, the shutdown happened because Democrats said, this is 152 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: going to be an unmitigated disaster if we don't continue 153 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: subsidies for Obamacare. So open enrollment ended Thursday, that is yesterday. 154 00:08:56,040 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: According to the Wall Street Journal, we have about one 155 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: point four million fewer people who signed up compared to 156 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five number. Okay, the Urban Institute said 157 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: that it would drop by seven. 158 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 3: Point three million. 159 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: The Congressional Business Budget Office presumed huge drops in the 160 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: number of people that would drop out. And so the decline, 161 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: according to the Trump administration, happened because they cracked down 162 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: on fraud and the paragon This guy, Brian Blasee, says 163 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: that about twelve million Obamacare enrollees have no medical claims, 164 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: suggesting they may have been enrolled in plans without their knowledge. 165 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: Fraud may also explain why enrollment hasn't fallen more. 166 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 3: Think about that, Buck. 167 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: If you have twenty four million people signed up for Obamacare, 168 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: doesn't it seem crazy that half of those people would 169 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: have no healthcare claims whatsoever? 170 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 3: Yes, in a year, it does. I mean, think about it. 171 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 3: Seems very strange. Whatever you do for healthcare. 172 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: I bet almost everybody out there listening to us at 173 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: least spent. 174 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 3: A dollar with healthcare. 175 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: All Republicans are saying is in order to be automatically enrolled, 176 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: we think you should have to spend five dollars on 177 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: healthcare every year. I think what's happened here with Obamacare, Buck, 178 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: is it is a huge fraud laced program, and healthcare 179 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: companies are getting free rides because they're signing up people 180 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: left and right. They're cashing all these subsidy checks without 181 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: actually covering people. Because it doesn't make sense that twelve 182 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: million people would not have a single health care claim 183 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: on Obamacare if it were so integral to overall healthcare 184 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: in America. Right, Sometimes the math just doesn't add up. Again, 185 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: these are data from the Wall Street Journal. 186 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 3: The more they dig into this, the more you're going 187 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 3: to see what a mess the whole thing is, and 188 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 3: this has been said all along. I'll just point out 189 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 3: those of us who were ringing the alarm bell about 190 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 3: Obamacare a decade and a half ago, basically wherever thirteen 191 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 3: years ago, it's all true. Everything we've said is true. 192 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 3: Your healthcare has just gotten more expensive. Access has gotten worse. 193 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 3: There's more government spending involved, so you're paying for more 194 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 3: with your taxes, you're paying for more with your premiums. 195 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 3: You're getting worse care, you're having longer waits, all of 196 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 3: it gets worse so that illegals can be covered. I mean, 197 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 3: let's really get into this, so that healthcare companies can 198 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 3: not the place, not the people that are actually like 199 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 3: fixing you, the places that determine who gets to fix you, 200 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 3: so that their profits are nice and fat, so that 201 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 3: hospital systems can become these massive private equity owned you know, 202 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 3: profit centers. Oh, there's so much here. There's so much here. 203 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,479 Speaker 2: You're listening to Team forty seven with Clay and buck. 204 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: Brook. 205 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 3: Rollins joins us. She is the Secretary of Agriculture. Secretary 206 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 3: of Rollins, welcome to the program. 207 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 5: Well, I think this is my first time, guys. It's 208 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 5: really fun to be on with y'all. 209 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 6: Thank you. 210 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 3: We are very very pleased and honored to have you something. 211 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 3: We have a lot to talk to you about, actually, 212 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: but one thing that sticks out right away because I 213 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 3: even remember being a kid and looking at the food 214 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 3: pyramid and thinking to myself, twelve servings of grain a day. 215 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 3: That seems like that seems like a lot of cheerios 216 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 3: and a lot of a lot of bread. It turns 217 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 3: out it was not a good idea, and now we 218 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 3: have a different finally, a different food pyramid. Speak to 219 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 3: us about the Maha movement and how you're involved in it, Well, yeah. 220 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 6: I tell you it is. It's been an amazing two 221 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 6: weeks here in Washington. Who knew if you had told 222 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 6: me a. 223 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 5: Year ago that as I was becoming the Secretary of 224 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 5: Agriculture and very proud to do that, one of the 225 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 5: biggest agencies but supporting rural America, our farmers and ranchers, 226 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 5: that a man by the name of Robert F. Kennedy 227 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 5: Junior Bobby, whom I had never even met before, that 228 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 5: A he would become one of my best friends. B 229 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 5: he would also become my key partner in making America 230 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 5: healthy again. Or maybe I should say I would become 231 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 5: his key partner in making America healthy again. And see, 232 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 5: we would have the opportunity, under President Trump's leadership to 233 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 5: completely change the trajectory of American health and the American 234 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 5: way of life. And I think that's I think that's 235 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 5: how big this is. Last week we announced the new 236 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 5: dietary guidelines. We flipped the pyramid to your point, and 237 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 5: instead of focusing on you know, carbohydrates and breads and 238 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 5: that being the most important thing, we flipped it to 239 00:13:55,320 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 5: eat real food, protein, butter, whole elk, fruits, vegetables. That 240 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 5: this will fundamentally transform our nation. The final thing I'll 241 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 5: say on that is we have a massive chronic disease 242 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 5: crisis in this country. Forty cents of every American tax 243 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 5: dollar goes to treating chronic disease, most of which is 244 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 5: tied to poor diet, lack of exercise, which leads to 245 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 5: a pre diabetic, diabetic, obese population. So there's so much 246 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 5: we can do, so much we can talk about. 247 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 6: But it's been a big couple of weeks. 248 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: We're talking with Brooke Rawlins, Secretary of Agriculture. She manages 249 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: also to be a Texas a and m Aggie and 250 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: a Texas longhorn. Alum, we will ask about that. Be sure, 251 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: be sure that's coming. I'm just going to give you 252 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: a preview that that is coming. So let me ask 253 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: you this. The number one thing that a lot of 254 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: people are focused on is cost of groceries. 255 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 3: Right, you hear it, We hear it. Everybody out there 256 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 3: feels it. 257 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, because of the Biden era, everything with up in 258 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: a massive degree in a very short period of time. 259 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 3: What can we do to produce more. 260 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: American agriculture right here in the good old USA, particularly 261 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: when it comes to beef and help to drive down prices. 262 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: What do you expect we will start to see throughout 263 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six as it pertains to that issue. 264 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's such a great, great question, Clay. And here's 265 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 6: what I'll say. I was in the first Trump administration. 266 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 5: I ran the Domestic Policy Council, so I was in 267 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 5: charge of the president's entire domestic agenda in Trump one. 268 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 5: I knew that what was going to happen when Joe 269 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 5: Biden was sworn in in January of twenty twenty one, 270 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 5: that prices would skyrocket, the border would open, we would 271 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 5: be more and more foreign entanglements. I mean, we just 272 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 5: we just knew it was not an America first approach 273 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 5: to governing. What I didn't realize, and I probably should have, 274 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 5: was just how bad things would be, and realizing that 275 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 5: when I came back around, obviously to serve in the 276 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 5: President's cabinet and Trump two point zero. To your point, 277 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 5: the cumulative inflation over four years of Biden was over 278 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 5: twenty three percent. This is astounding. But when you look 279 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 5: at the sort of the foundation of that, all of 280 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 5: the spending. I mean I took over a department that 281 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 5: manages food stamps, the SNAP program. 282 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 6: It increased forty percent. 283 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 5: Under Joe Biden, we saw the spending out of control 284 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 5: at every single level of government. 285 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 6: We saw the borders open. There is no doubt that. 286 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 5: You know, I was an agriculture major, but even me, 287 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 5: my ag major degree would tell you that you spend 288 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 5: more money, you take more tax dollars, you're going to 289 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 5: create inflationary everything's going to go up. But we've already 290 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,239 Speaker 5: seen things start to come way down, whether it's fuel 291 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 5: in the agriculture sector. Under Biden, labor went up forty 292 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 5: seven percent, fuel went up thirty two percent, Interest rates 293 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 5: went up seventy three percent. So that driver of inputs, 294 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 5: while there were no new trade deals, basically meant that 295 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 5: our farmers are struggling, our food is increasing. 296 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 6: It's just a complete disaster. 297 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 5: But all of that has already begun to come down. 298 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 5: We've already seen inflation come down, wages go up, mortgages 299 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 5: come down, fuel come down. 300 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 6: But we've got a lot more work to do. 301 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 5: I'll say this kind of enclosing, and I think this 302 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 5: is what's probably for me, the most exciting thing about 303 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 5: what's happened. 304 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 6: Under Trump two year one. 305 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 5: Not only your price is coming down, but as we 306 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 5: release this new dietary guideline and we talk about eating 307 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 5: real food and stop eating packaged, ultra processed food, it 308 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 5: isn't just a health question, and it isn't just a 309 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 5: taxpayer question, although certainly those are two very important pieces, 310 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 5: but it's also, to your point, Clay, a farmer question, 311 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 5: an American farmer question. As we begin to move the 312 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 5: American diet back toward eating real food, as the four 313 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 5: hundred million dollars a day a day y'all that USDA 314 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 5: spends on nutrition program, school lunches, snap, et cetera, we 315 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 5: begin to recalibrate that toward better, healthier, more locally produced food. 316 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 5: Not only again the American child, the American will will prosper, 317 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 5: not only to taxpayers that are protected we're not spending 318 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 5: as much money on the backside of that, but our 319 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 5: American farmers for the first time and perhaps any of 320 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 5: our lifetime, will begin to move into a golden age as. 321 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 6: We open up that aperture. 322 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 5: So that's really what we're looking at, and that's why 323 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 5: this is just so important. 324 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 3: We're speaking to Secretary Brooke Rollins, Secretary of Agriculture, and 325 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 3: as Secretary to that. To that end, I have to say, 326 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 3: because I've been going through my own health journey in 327 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 3: the last couple of years, changing up eating patterns and 328 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 3: everything else, I firmly believe that what you are doing 329 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 3: with the partner Vague is doing with both on the 330 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 3: education side but also the provision of just the real 331 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 3: food is the easiest way to put it. Real food 332 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 3: in schools, real food on people's plates at home. The 333 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 3: health benefits of this, you know, we're a country that 334 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 3: has far too many chronically sick people. The health benefits 335 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 3: of what you're talking about, I think are massive and 336 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 3: fisi schoolly significant. Over the long term, this. 337 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 5: Is going to save the American taxpayer hundreds and hundreds 338 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 5: and hundreds of billions of dollars. 339 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 6: I'm from Texas. 340 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 5: I did Texas policy before I got to the first 341 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 5: Trump White House. In Texas, we spend forty to fifty 342 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 5: percent of our state budget on Medicaid, Medicare and healthcare. 343 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 5: I mean, you think about every dollar that's put into 344 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 5: the system. Whole swaths of Texas. You have the diabetes, 345 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 5: the obesity, et cetera. And at the same time, you 346 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 5: look and you see that seventy percent of what the 347 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 5: average American eats comes out of a package. 348 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 6: It's a process. 349 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 5: Something or other, and so that is what really we 350 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 5: have to work to change now. I think an important 351 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 5: piece of this is, well, you think about those from 352 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 5: our most vulnerable communities, right those who are living on 353 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 5: the margins of society. 354 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 6: They can't run to their HGB or their Kroger or 355 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 6: their central. 356 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 5: Market and you know, buy the latest fresh chicken on sale, 357 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 5: the flatest fresh organ chicken. They're using the SNAP program, 358 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 5: But there are two hundred and fifty thousand retailers in 359 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 5: America that take SNAP dollars now we're prout have time 360 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 5: today and come on another time and talk about the 361 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 5: fraud in the SNAP program. 362 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 6: But I won't even focus on that today. 363 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,239 Speaker 5: But what I will say with those two hundred and 364 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 5: fifty thousand retailers that we are now requiring them to 365 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 5: stalk twice as much. If they're going to take a 366 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 5: Snap dollar, they have to stalk twice as much. Double 367 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 5: their offerings of food that comes off this new food 368 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 5: pyramid healthy, real food, frozen is fine, canned is okay, 369 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 5: fresh is obviously great. But we've got to make sure 370 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 5: that these populations have that access and to your point, 371 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 5: we will begin to again see a complete transformation. We 372 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 5: have a national security issue in this country when three 373 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 5: out of four young adults, seventy five percent of American 374 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 5: young adults cannot pass our military readiness test. So this 375 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 5: is a massive, massive issue for the continuation of the 376 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 5: American dream. 377 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,479 Speaker 6: And that's that's I think again how important this is. 378 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: We're talking to Secretary of Agriculture Brokerlins. All Right, I 379 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: teased you, you've had time to think about your answer. 380 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: You went to Texas A and M. You then went 381 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: to the University of Texas to get a law degree. 382 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: I'm assuming that your loyalty stay with your undergrad as 383 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: a lot of people's loyalties do. But what was and 384 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: that if I'm wrong you can correct me. What was 385 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: it like to be undercover as an aggie inside of 386 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: the University of Texas or were you out and out, 387 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: open and outspoken? And have you recovered from A and 388 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: M's loss to Texas in their final return to rivalry 389 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: series here so far? 390 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 6: Oh, you're stabbing me in the heart with that. Listen. 391 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 5: I am an aggie through and through. I like to 392 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 5: say that I increased the IQ of both schools when 393 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 5: I left Texas A and M and went over to 394 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 5: the University of Texas. 395 00:21:58,400 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 6: And by the way, in Texas Clay we call. 396 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 5: It because Texas A and M is the University of Texas, 397 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 5: and you know the school in Austin is just little 398 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 5: T little U Texas University. We kind of overtook Austin. 399 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 5: I say we did go behind enemy lines. I went 400 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,959 Speaker 5: from conservative pro America Texas A and M. 401 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 6: I was student body president. 402 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 5: There, over to the law school. So I am all 403 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 5: in on Texas A and M. I don't miss a game. 404 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 5: My son is a yell leader My husband was a 405 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 5: yell leader for a lot of your listeners. 406 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 6: They may know what that is. 407 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 5: We were there in the stands in Austin the day 408 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 5: after Thanksgiving as our heart split into a million pieces. Again, 409 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 5: thought we were going to make it up a few 410 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 5: weeks later against Miami at Kyle Field for that first 411 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 5: playoff game. Again heart split into another gajillion pieces. But ma'am, 412 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 5: my Aggie's under coach Elko, Marcel Reid. I mean, we've 413 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,959 Speaker 5: got the future is so bright, and we've got that 414 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 5: national championship I think just around the corner. And you know, 415 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 5: if we do, if we don't, I will continue to 416 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 5: be at every single game cheer in Maaggie's on. 417 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 3: We're talking to Brook Grawlins. 418 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: Okay, So Buck and I are going to be at 419 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: the Miami Indiana National title game on Monday. You just 420 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: mentioned Miami beat Texas A and M in College Station 421 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: to start the college football Playoff ten three. You mentioned 422 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: Marcel Reid. Great kid, he goes to a school that 423 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: my kids. He's a Nashville kid. He goes to a 424 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: school that my kids attend as well. So who do 425 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: you have in the national title game, Miami or Indiana 426 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: and Buck is still learning to be a college football fan. 427 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: What advice would you give him as he goes to 428 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 1: the national title game on Monday? 429 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 5: Buck other first, last question, First Buck, other than fighting 430 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 5: for America, there is no greater pastime than college football, period, 431 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 5: full stop, no arguments, no question. You got to get 432 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 5: to Kyle Field in College Station to really really experience 433 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 5: I believe, the best atmosphere in college football. Marcel Reid 434 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 5: is an amazing kid. I think he represents this new 435 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 5: wave of leaders in college football that love their country, 436 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 5: that love their Lord, that sets such a great example 437 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 5: for all these other young kids. I have four teenagers. 438 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 5: It's just remarkable to see. I am having to go 439 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 5: with Miami. I think Indiana is very impressive. Their win 440 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 5: against Oregon was pretty remarkable and obviously very telling. That 441 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 5: quarterback talk about a great model, you know, for everybody, 442 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 5: is just incredible. But my friends in Miami, my brother 443 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 5: Marco Rubio, our secretary of State, my sister Pam Bondi, 444 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 5: our Attorney General, we talk about by the way, we 445 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 5: talk about college football in every single cabinet meeting, just 446 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 5: like yeah, just like but President Trump is it fully 447 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,719 Speaker 5: doesn't fully understand the magic of college football. 448 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 6: But I'm working on him too, so he's there as well. 449 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 6: He loves it. But I'm going with Miami. They beat 450 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 6: my Aggi's to see them win all. 451 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 5: The way through, and I think it'd be great. But 452 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 5: love Indiana. What an amazing Cinderella story. Indiana is with 453 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 5: a coach who is coaching James Madison just a couple 454 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 5: of years ago. 455 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 3: You know, I live in Miami, Secretary of Rowlins, so 456 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 3: my beloved Hurricanes are gonna be the championship. I just 457 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 3: got to go on the record. I gotta tell you 458 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 3: my Hurricanes they're blowing through town. 459 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 5: I think they are. I think they are. I'm glad 460 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 5: to hear that. So I think Miami's gonna pull it out. 461 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 5: But it's gonna be a really good game. 462 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: Secretary Rowlins, good luck with all those four teenagers, as 463 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: well as everything else you got going on. Thank you 464 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 1: for coming on the show for the first time. Look 465 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 1: forward to talking to you again. And I can't wait 466 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: too what it's gonna happen on Monday. 467 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 5: I know, I'm so excited. Thankshall. Let me know when 468 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 5: you're an Aggie Land would love to host you. 469 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 3: Ammy Beck we'll do that for sure. 470 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: I do think Buck needs to get down to Aggie 471 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: Land because text A and M is a really really 472 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: fun place to go watch a game. 473 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 3: Is that is that hook them? Hook them? 474 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 7: Live? 475 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 3: No? No, no, oh boy, whoops. 476 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 6: You're killing me. Here's killing me. 477 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 3: I actually thought, I actually thought I was gonna get 478 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 3: an out of boy on that one. 479 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: Ooops, exactly the wrong way. You need to throw the 480 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: horns down. That would make her. 481 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 5: Much horns down, Buck, Thank you so much, God bless, 482 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 5: it's really fun to. 483 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 6: Be on with y'all. 484 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 3: Thank you. 485 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: That is Secretary of Agriculture Brook Rawlins, who Buck has 486 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: forever alienated himself from by saying hook them. When hook 487 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: them is like you're Aggie, like you want to hook them? 488 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 3: Hook them? Horns? 489 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: Uh? The A and M is and everybody else really 490 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: who plays Texas is the opposite of that. 491 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 3: You go horns down. 492 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: So the horns up is the signal, like you'll see 493 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: Matthew McConaughey, like all the big famous Texas fans on 494 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: the sideline, they're given the hook them sign that's basically 495 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 1: horns up. 496 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 3: All second here, you're telling me there's two like cutthroat 497 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 3: rival college football teams. One has horns up, one has 498 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 3: horns down. 499 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to know everybody every who is playing against 500 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: Texas is horns down. They actually had to start in 501 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: the Big twelve. This is getting into the weeds, but 502 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: they were giving kids players penalties for doing the horns 503 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 1: down gesture. So hook them is like the sign. And 504 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 1: so your anti Texas move is the anti hook them, 505 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 1: which is horns down. 506 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 3: You college football people with your secret handshakes, I kick you. 507 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 3: I'm trying, but it ain't even gonna get you started 508 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 3: on like guns up. What has to happen when you're 509 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 3: given all the hand gestures at Texas A and M 510 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 3: for example. All right, look, speaking of gestures, Rock Purty 511 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 3: more than one half touchdown pass, Drake May more than 512 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 3: one half touchdown pass, Josh Allen more than one half 513 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 3: Bonnix more than one half. 514 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: Now that's NFL. That starts tomorrow, double game Saturday, double 515 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: game Sunday. Before we get to college football. 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He does great deep 541 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: dives on data if you enjoy looking at the actual 542 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: numbers and seeing exactly what is going on there. 543 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 3: We are joined now by Ryan and Ryan let's start here. 544 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: You've got a really interesting piece about the politics, meaning 545 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: the actual data behind the ice raids in Minnesota. But 546 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: this actually ties in with a bigger picture question before 547 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: we go into the specific on Minnesota starting in twenty thirty, 548 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: So twenty twenty eight will have under the existing electoral college. 549 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: We've talked about this sum on the program. Democrats are 550 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: in for a world of trouble, and I think David 551 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: Axelrod has an opinion piece in the New York Times 552 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: about this. 553 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 3: The so called blue Wall. 554 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: States of Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Even if Democrats win 555 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: all three, the math is shifting such that because red 556 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: states are growing so much faster, that pathway to winning 557 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: the presidency wouldn't even exist. The Democrats are going to 558 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: have to start competing in the South and the Southwest 559 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: in a big way or they're screwed nationally. 560 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 3: Not a lot of talking about it. 561 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 7: Explain yes, So the rate of the map is looking currently. 562 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 7: A lot of people have been leaving blue states for 563 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 7: well over a decade, right in New York, California, Illinois, and 564 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 7: what has happened in the last two decades to keep 565 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 7: their populations growing has been immigration. Right California has lost 566 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 7: more American citizens, but because enough immigrants have come, they 567 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 7: have managed to keep the population basically the same as 568 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 7: it was before COVID. They lost while during COVID, but 569 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 7: they've bounced back only because of mass immigration. But even 570 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 7: with mass immigration of a million people per year, you know, 571 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 7: mostly going to those states, it's not enough to keep 572 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 7: up pace with how many American citizens are leaving those states. 573 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 7: So California, Illinois, Minnesota, New York, and Rhode Island, those 574 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 7: are five deep blue states they're projected to lose. California 575 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 7: will likely lose, so this is acurrency. California will lose 576 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 7: three congressional seats, illinoill lose two, Minnesota will lose one, 577 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 7: New York will lose one, and Rhode Island will lose one. 578 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 7: That's quite a number, I mean, that's the eight electoral 579 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 7: College votes right there, just not also a House of 580 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 7: a sooned members, and those eight votes, those eight electoral 581 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 7: college groups are supposed to go to Arizona gainst one, 582 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 7: Florida gets two, Georgia gets one, Idaho gets one, Texas 583 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 7: gets three, and Utah gets one. So not only is 584 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 7: that a bunch of new Republican members that will come 585 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,719 Speaker 7: from those red states blue states, but the electoral college 586 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 7: map is such that if a Republican wins Ohio, North Carolina, Georgia, Florida, 587 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 7: Texas and areas do not, they don't need any Midwestern 588 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 7: states like from the rost Belt or Minnesota or Virginia. 589 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 7: All those dates become completely irrelevant. Georgia and North Carolina 590 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 7: become the most important states in the country. And if 591 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 7: you lose Georgia, you can still win with just winning Pennsylvania. 592 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 7: But nonetheless, all the numbers are moving successfully in a 593 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 7: way that it becomes much more difficult than mak for 594 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 7: the Democrats to capture the White House if they can't 595 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 7: win those states. 596 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 3: Ryan, tell us what you think the numbers say about 597 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 3: the immigration enforcement operations, because right now, you know, sometimes 598 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 3: there's the data that is just out there and maybe 599 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 3: there's not as much of an incentive to use it 600 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 3: to push a certain point of view. But I've seen 601 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 3: over at CNN, for example, they're running Harry Anthon's running 602 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 3: oh Ice operations. People have a very negative view of this. 603 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 3: Is there a real reason to believe that the operations 604 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 3: are changing the mind of the American people overall? On 605 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 3: this is just some areas because for the Trump voter, 606 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 3: this is what we voted. I see this, I'm like, yes, more, 607 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 3: this is what we voted for. 608 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 7: The same No immigration enforcements one of those things that 609 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 7: they love in theory and not necessarily in practice. So 610 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 7: mas ice agents very unpopular. The whole idea of not 611 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 7: having uniforms very unpopular, unmarked cars unpopular, The idea of 612 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 7: enforcing immigration law is very popular. Trump's on the border, 613 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 7: which is set of the immigration to borders when a 614 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 7: few areas where Trump is still in the positive territory. 615 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 7: I also have a belief system is if something about 616 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 7: you bothers a certain politician, it's almost like nothing that 617 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,959 Speaker 7: they can do can be positive. So Trump has negative 618 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 7: marks for Venezuela and for the Middle East, which were 619 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 7: overwhelmingly successful initiatives. I think that for a lot of people, 620 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 7: the tariffs and the economy and the fact that prices 621 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 7: have not come down, which is what many people thought 622 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 7: it would, not that inflation hasn't slow, which it has, 623 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 7: but that prices haven't come down. Because that hasn't happened, 624 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 7: and we are dealing with the hangover of Biden inflation 625 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 7: for three years, people are still very upset about it. 626 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 7: So because that hasn't happened, they've soured on almost everything 627 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 7: that Donald Trump has done. That's why I kind of 628 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 7: don't think the ICE enforcement is the reason people are 629 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 7: having this negative opinion about it. Obviously, the Rank Good 630 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 7: story was not a positive story for ICE agents. However, 631 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 7: if you look at the idea of enforcing immigration, Americans 632 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 7: are supportive. There's a very very smart progressive polster who 633 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 7: actually asked all the different Democratic positions, and the most 634 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 7: popular position right now is actually AOC's position, which was 635 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 7: saying that ICE should be reformed. And what they're saying, 636 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,760 Speaker 7: this is what Democrats are going to go forward saying 637 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 7: that the money for ICE was taken out of your 638 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 7: health care funding. That is the play that got the 639 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 7: highest numbers as far as polling goes in private polling, 640 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 7: and that is most likely what David Show that was 641 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 7: the person who does David Short's other and SI that 642 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 7: is what Democrats should run on going forward. 643 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: Okay, this is super important and I'm gonna be honest. 644 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: Years ago when I found this out for the first time, 645 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: it was mind blowing to me. I still don't think 646 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: it's very widely known in the United States, illegal immigrants 647 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: are counted for purposes of House districts, right, so everybody 648 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: has to represent seven hundred and thirty thousand or whatever 649 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 1: the current math is. And to your point on Minneapolis, 650 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: state of Minnesota in general, as in theory, these two 651 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 1: point five million. 652 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,760 Speaker 3: If that number is right, illegals who have left. 653 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 1: The country this year, As that continues, if it does 654 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: in twenty seven, twenty six, and into twenty eight, it 655 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: would be a seismic impact when it came to reassociate 656 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: reallocating the seats for the census. Isn't that really what 657 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: this fight is ultimately about, that Democrats are seeing that 658 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 1: And if this pace continued, and if the numbers are 659 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: right and suddenly we had ten million illegals in the 660 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: country instead of ten million, set of twenty million, that 661 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 1: would dramatically change the overall calibration of House Democrat seats. 662 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: I think it isn't being talked about enough. That actually 663 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: seems like the root battle here. 664 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 7: Right, So my point, I wrote this bore the National 665 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 7: Papist Newsletter. This will be on my podcast for the 666 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 7: Monday episode. I'm going to dive very deep into this. 667 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 7: It is about what happened in Minnesota. So since January, 668 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 7: about five thousand illegal aliens have been arrested in Minnesota, 669 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 7: which is quite about two percent of the entire illegal 670 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 7: alien population estimated. Right, there was a big ray. Twenty 671 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 7: four hundred were arrested. The number of people that Illinois 672 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 7: had to have to retain their eighth congressional district was 673 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 7: eighty nine, So they had eighty nine fewer people. They 674 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 7: would have not had the eighth Congression district, which is 675 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,399 Speaker 7: a Democrat district. Now it would have gone to New York. 676 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 7: New York I would have had given a a Democrat anyway. 677 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 7: But when you look at a broader scale of the 678 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,240 Speaker 7: fould thousands, of the tens of thousands, of the hundreds 679 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 7: of thousands, when you look at Illinois, New York, New Jersey, Minnesota, 680 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 7: Rhode Island, California, all those places, you're talking about a 681 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 7: massive reduction in political power especially in these places that 682 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 7: have you know, Jerry mannered six space from Sunday all 683 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 7: the different Republican seats. There's not a lot of Republican 684 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 7: seats left for Illinois to cut out. I mean, they 685 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 7: only have three. They have to lose Democratic seats. New 686 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 7: York still, I mean New York's not that Jerrymander, but 687 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 7: California definitely is. Those are Democratic seats, Those are Democrat 688 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 7: electoral college votes that they're going to be losing for 689 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 7: the twenty thirty two election. All that stuff really matters 690 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,240 Speaker 7: to the potential of the Democrats, especially to the political 691 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 7: influence of places like Minnesota and California, and so all 692 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 7: this stuff really matters. There was a Brookings Institute study 693 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 7: that just came out that says they're going to lose 694 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 7: our armborne population decreased by about one hundred thousand this 695 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,919 Speaker 7: year and it will be about five hundred thousand next year. 696 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 7: If that's coming out of New York and California. Was 697 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 7: numbers that I said, those not eight electoral college votes 698 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 7: that they're losing, That could easily go to nine or 699 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 7: ten by the end of the decade. If Trump is 700 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 7: able to carry this out, and if we elect another 701 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 7: Republican who carries it out through the decade. There's no 702 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 7: reason why a dozen seats will not be redistributed away 703 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 7: from not only those blue seats, but probably towards places 704 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 7: like Alabama or Ohio, places that don't have large form 705 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 7: born populations. You mentioned about illegally allies being canceaded. I'll 706 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 7: give you this one spetistic very quickly, Rocanna. 707 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 3: No hold, Ryan, Ryan, Actually, Ryan, Ryan, slow down a 708 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 3: little bit because everyone you got plenty of time. Slow 709 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 3: down and tell everybody this is going to be an 710 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 3: important stat I think I know which one you're going 711 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,280 Speaker 3: to talk about, so please take your time. 712 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:47,320 Speaker 7: Okay. So California seventeen district is congress from Rocanni's probably 713 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 7: running for presidents in northern California. A two hundred and 714 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,399 Speaker 7: fifty five thousand people voted in the twenty twenty four 715 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 7: election in that district. In California, he won with one 716 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 7: hundred and seventy thousand votes. If you look at a 717 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 7: regular district in Ohio, Ohio's fourth, Ohio's fifth, these are 718 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 7: Republican districts. A Republican, just the Republican has to get 719 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 7: a quarter of a million votes to win. So the 720 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,800 Speaker 7: threshold for a Maxine Waters to run or a Media 721 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 7: Vasquez or rocannor or any of these Democrats and these 722 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 7: big blue states is much much lower. They have to 723 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 7: get fewer votes because so many people are ineligible to 724 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 7: vote because they are foreign born residents. 725 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 3: This is buck Did you know this because I know 726 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 3: one of the this is why I subscribe to is 727 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 3: National Populist newsletter. Very good information. 728 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 1: It's one of the great underdiscussed data points that should 729 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 1: be a point of huge discussion because when you look 730 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: at it, you say, oh, this is because people. This 731 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 1: was where their power comes from. The more illegals that 732 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 1: fled into these districts, the more seats they get, the 733 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 1: more power they have. That to me is such a 734 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,399 Speaker 1: huge part of the narrative thread that explains why they 735 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 1: fight so hard here. Why do they make kilmar Braille 736 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,839 Speaker 1: Garcia the face of their comp of their of their 737 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: entire party. 738 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 3: It's basically a company. 739 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 1: It's because they have to what kind of getting to 740 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: the nitty gritty here, Ryan, how many seats if we 741 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: did not count illegal immigrants as a part of the 742 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: overall census for representation in Congress, which to me, actually 743 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: we that should be the law. Okay, but let's pretend 744 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: that there were no illegal immigrants in the country, So 745 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: twenty million people out of the country. How many seats 746 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: do we think that would cost Democrats in the House. 747 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 7: Roughly it would cost I mean, it's this is something 748 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 7: that they've kind of calculated and miscalculated because it's very, 749 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 7: very difficult because obviously, over time illegal aliens sometimes do 750 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:50,399 Speaker 7: become citizens and switch status. It would be around about 751 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 7: a dozen seats overall, mostly out of California. The thing 752 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 7: is that Texas would lose seats as well, and so 753 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 7: as well as Flara. It's not so much a question 754 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 7: of just blue states first restate. It's also regional apportionment. Pennsylvania, Ohio, Alabama, 755 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 7: the South as a whole, and the Midwest as a 756 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 7: whole are robbed out of seats because they lose because 757 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 7: they just don't attract huge populations of foreum born. But 758 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,399 Speaker 7: certainly California would be down about almost four or five 759 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 7: seats on its own, let alone New York, New Jersey, Illinois, 760 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 7: it's overall about ten to twelve seats, depending on who's 761 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 7: calculating the numbers. 762 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 3: It's amazing, Ryan, you think about how a lot of 763 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 3: even Republicans who have been on this for years, maybe decades, 764 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 3: have been pointing out to this is transforming the electorate 765 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,359 Speaker 3: in the future by bringing in people who are you know, 766 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 3: if their parents were illegal, they're more likely to be 767 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 3: maybe Democrats, if they're born here, and all these things. 768 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 3: But it actually changes the electorate and it changes the 769 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 3: political balance of power right now. To have all these 770 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 3: illegals here, I think that's been the real revelation, right. 771 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,280 Speaker 7: And listen, if President Trump continues on his path to 772 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 7: make sure that certain people's can't come, you're reducing legal 773 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 7: immigration as well as an important concept and deporting illegals. 774 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 7: This is not just about this year or next year. 775 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,879 Speaker 7: This is the twenty thirty decade. That is three presidential 776 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 7: elections where Democrats will have an almost a monument. I mean, 777 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 7: if the Georgia changes, who knows, but the immense scale 778 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 7: of they have to run up in order to have 779 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 7: a president elected for that decade really matters. In the 780 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 7: next three years. If President Trump backs pedals on this 781 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 7: or gives up, or the political pressure becomes too much, 782 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 7: a Democrats defundis or whatever, that's really what they're looking at. 783 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,320 Speaker 7: It's not about tomorrow. It is about the twenty thirty decades, 784 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 7: and it will be a very difficult decade for Democrats 785 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,840 Speaker 7: to win if they don't have this population of illegal 786 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 7: alien surging in places like California and New York, New Jersey, Illinois. 787 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 7: Stuff like that. 788 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 3: Play. This guy knows a lot. I think he should 789 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,360 Speaker 3: have a podcast where he talks about politicists. 790 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 1: How can people find you, Ryan if they don't already know? 791 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: And again to Buck's point, please go subscribe to the 792 00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: podcast part of the Clay and Buck podcast network. 793 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 7: Yes, go on the Clay and Buck podcast network. It 794 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 7: is on iHeartRadio app at the Apple podcast where you 795 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 7: get it, and I have YouTube as well, and you 796 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 7: can get my newsletter of the National Popcast newsletter on 797 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 7: substack and I dive into all these numbers all the time, 798 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 7: but the podcast is the most important place where you 799 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 7: get new information all the time. 800 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,720 Speaker 1: Awesome, appreciate the work, Ryan. I hope you guys enjoyed 801 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 1: that as much as we did. 802 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,319 Speaker 7: Thank you, thank you, and. 803 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 3: I'm going to help right out. It's a numbers game, 804 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 3: is the name of the podcast. It's a numbers game. 805 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 1: It's a numbers game. You can find it inside of 806 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 1: the Clay and Buck podcast network.