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Speaker 1: Welcome to All the Smoke, a production of The Black

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Speaker 1: Effect and our Heart Radio and partnership with Showtime. M

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Speaker 1: mm hmmm, mm hmm. Welcome back to another edition of

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Speaker 1: All the Smoke. Jack's good tough of day yesterday for us,

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Speaker 1: long day, but I enjoyed the Cally Weather. We have

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Speaker 1: to just kick back smoke. He good brothership, brotherhood. Yeah, sleep,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't actually a bad day. I enjoyed it. I did.

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Speaker 1: I was so tired already. Yeah, but today we're back

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Speaker 1: at it. We just got done doing hot boxing. Y'all

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Speaker 1: didn't know we're neighbors. We didn't know. Weird neighbors. Shout

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Speaker 1: out to the champ Oh kids. Mm hmm. You just

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Speaker 1: tell us, tell us some pop stories. I've always want

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Speaker 1: to ask you that ship. I should have said this

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Speaker 1: for All the Smoke. Listen. I'm locked up. It's around

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Speaker 1: ninety three, it's maybe ninety four, and I got out

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Speaker 1: pretty soon and Tupac winning. He comes in this place

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Speaker 1: in the end. This is all white supremacy. This is

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Speaker 1: your you've been locked up in. As soon as he

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Speaker 1: comes in, everybody starts supplauding, clapping up in the plu

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Speaker 1: hey stops down, stop stop stop. You know the guard

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Speaker 1: to saying that ship and he was who he was

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Speaker 1: a fourth. If he loves you, it's all love. But

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Speaker 1: if he didn't like you, he looked for be Sometimes

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Speaker 1: he wants you to know he was there. His music

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Speaker 1: is timeless, but they got like a timeless piece of

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Speaker 1: art here everywhere I go out of like an Africa, Europe.

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Speaker 1: How was Tupac? What was Tupac? Right? Everywhere all over

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Speaker 1: the world. It was a powerful painting. This is what

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Speaker 1: he wanted. He just wanted to be Iron Mike. We

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Speaker 1: don't get Mike do some ship with Mike. But we've

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Speaker 1: got a special guest here. Oh my gosh, I was

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Speaker 1: working Mr Fingers. Popcornall never watched this dude. Just go

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Speaker 1: back and watch YouTube to him putting his fingers on

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Speaker 1: people on the way from Shock to me, Nate Robinson,

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Speaker 1: the way they'll they'll squeal when his strong fingers touched him.

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Speaker 1: I'm an equal opportunity employer. He's a he just does

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Speaker 1: this ship. It's crazy anyway. Man, Welcome to the show,

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Speaker 1: six man extraordinary Jamal Crawford appreciated family. How are you doing.

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Speaker 1: You're officially welcome because before we did his hand already,

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Speaker 1: I'm good. A few times we did your remote last time,

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Speaker 1: last time we did you Uh you had an officially

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Speaker 1: called retirement. Since then you have, um how did you

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Speaker 1: come to that decision? It got to a point honestly

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Speaker 1: where you know, you go through emotions where like you

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Speaker 1: wake up some days like damn, how am I not

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Speaker 1: getting a call? The other day's like man, I knew

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Speaker 1: I could kill out there. The other day's like man,

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Speaker 1: I'm tired of waiting. And it got to that point

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Speaker 1: that roller coaster ride where I finally found when I

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Speaker 1: said to myself, I was like, how can I play

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Speaker 1: for a team from home? And that's when I know

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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, it's tom when you when you try

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Speaker 1: to play for a team with all actually having to travel,

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Speaker 1: would actually go like it's time and seeing my son

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Speaker 1: and coaching him, and you know, I see you on

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Speaker 1: the circuit all the time. I was like, it's it's time,

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Speaker 1: and to do it on my birthday. And it was

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Speaker 1: a little innuendo because at the time adds number eleven

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Speaker 1: if you go back and look, and then it was

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Speaker 1: like out the blue with a whole lyric. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: people are gonna be sleep right now, look get tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean I felt like that was perfect

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Speaker 1: for how my career went because I always felt like

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Speaker 1: So the way to announce it was like me thoughts

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Speaker 1: about it, like are you are you? I know you've

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Speaker 1: moved on and we're gonna get to the stuff you're doing,

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Speaker 1: but just the bad Like I feel like you're gonna

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Speaker 1: be the motherfucker that's gonna be in the program and

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Speaker 1: once you I don't know if you'll you'll always be

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Speaker 1: good up for the program, but you know, the local

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Speaker 1: leagues or whatever, like how do you feel that? Like

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Speaker 1: basket well still very much and and you're gonna continue

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Speaker 1: to play, it's just not at the highest level no more. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that part is you still have moments you're like damn,

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Speaker 1: like especially watching like dang, like you're not in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: I was in a half my life literally like many

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Speaker 1: So that part of it is is tough at times,

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Speaker 1: So I got more time for those things. Yea, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And and that was my biggest worry, Like, Okay, you

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Speaker 1: Jack still plays. You know, he goes through spells where

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Speaker 1: action now. Like I just don't have that. You don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't have the drive at all, like it never do.

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Speaker 1: I go to like I can't wait to wake up

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Speaker 1: and go play hoop to my Like hell no, I

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Speaker 1: just don't because I'm too busy. But that everybody is different,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But still it's just make

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Speaker 1: it look easy too. By the way, it's inspired to

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Speaker 1: especially the stuff you're doing ESPN, Kings, Show Time obviously

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Speaker 1: Smokes just being everywhere it's dopey. I appreciate that. Is,

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Speaker 1: you know, to put our faces on it as many

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Speaker 1: quality platforms as possible and then capitalize on something at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, Bill come on, man, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: then retired, What does your normal day to day look like? Well,

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Speaker 1: even like especially the last two years, I was always

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Speaker 1: pick up and drop off duty. Like I'm an uber.

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Speaker 1: I'm always taking my kids everywhere. But I enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: I love it, like and they love it. They love it, right,

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Speaker 1: they look forward to it. And we have our little

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Speaker 1: I come back home work out. Like you said, I'm

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Speaker 1: never you're still looking pretty chiseled. Yeah, I'm always gonna

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Speaker 1: do that. It's just in me. Come on, it's just

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Speaker 1: in me, though, Like I just love it. I always

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Speaker 1: getting ready even if there's not no game prepare for

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Speaker 1: if that makes sense, just life, just life in general.

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Speaker 1: to you never know. Yeah, so I'm doing that, jumping on,

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Speaker 1: like it's it's weird because you can decompress, which you're

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Speaker 1: absolutely about your family. My schedules, their schedule, whatever their

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Speaker 1: mean you've heard from my Zai, You've heard from different

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Speaker 1: people who participate in it. You participated. It's something for

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Speaker 1: you feel that when you played in it? Did you

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Speaker 1: feel so? I mean, like I said, I think we

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Speaker 1: out not so but five thousand people at twelve at night, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: at midnight for your your pre wedding festival. Like that.

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Speaker 1: They love basketball. That's we need to get Showtime Basketball

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Speaker 1: out there. Showtime Basketball. So man, go out there. Stories. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we gotta get you, Jamaldinarra like beat's right on set.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna make right here, like we're gonna be He's

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Speaker 1: good time to welcome to you actually to the Showtime

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Speaker 1: Basketball family. Yeah, well yeah, good going out, bro, But welcome.

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you spoke a media let's you know,

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Speaker 1: will be seen an moore here. I think as far

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Speaker 1: jack ass popping? Yeah, this is all the stuff looking back, like,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, the space. I'm loving it. Um showtime has

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Speaker 1: I think that's what's different from everywhere else. The people

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Speaker 1: selfiear that go into back to basketball twenty years and

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Speaker 1: gave away a chance of the championship? Yeah? I don't

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for the bench, Bob. They said this is

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Speaker 1: young blad when they're calling him baby Lebron. Yes, So

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Speaker 1: our bench is so good. We haven't played fourth quarters

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Speaker 1: dope like we were. We were at that motherfucker's bro. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: champion two, but like, there's no way we shouldn't reach

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Speaker 1: or whatever. Now my parents can't hold me. But you know,

424
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Speaker 1: it's too late almost for them to have that adversity

425
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Speaker 1: at that age when you've had so I'll be telling

426
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Speaker 1: our boys like, like, so when you are all freshman

427
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Speaker 1: in high school, you want to play varsity right where

428
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Speaker 1: you're gonna play against seventeen eight guys? If you're eleven

429
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 1: and twelve now playing against thirteen or fourteen year olds,

430
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 1: to say, there and your your your class. You gotta

431
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Speaker 1: plan and it takes away that shock value when they

432
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Speaker 1: see him for the first time somebody's two or three

433
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Speaker 1: years older, you know what I mean. Seattle. I love

434
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Speaker 1: Seattle Campfish Corner. You know that's my family. Yeah, talk

435
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 1: about you have any bigger plans with Seattle cross over. Absolutely,

436
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 1: We're already on video games We did actually do a

437
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Speaker 1: body armor rest in Peace code before you passed away there.

438
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 1: So we're always trying to look at how to grow

439
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Speaker 1: the league. We're gonna look into Showtime Basketball stocks possibly

440
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,639
Speaker 1: coming down here and just seeing with the feel of

441
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Speaker 1: it and just kind of bringing our story to life,

442
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I think it's people know

443
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 1: a little bit about it and you know something some

444
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 1: elements of it, but to bring it to life, but

445
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 1: to really how many dudes have come a little place

446
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 1: like you can cross the whole term in fifteen minutes.

447
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,880
Speaker 1: I went to one high school with John Murray, Christ,

448
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 1: Kevin Porter, Nate Robinson in the middle of Jason Terry, Peyton, Siva,

449
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 1: Aaron Brooks. On the other side, it's Brandon Roy, Jayleen

450
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 1: no Weel and this is in the fifteen Will Connor

451
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 1: when it's a fifteen minute span. So it's it's crazy

452
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 1: to see. Um, I think per Capital we're up there,

453
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 1: and it's it's more coming anything. When the last time

454
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Speaker 1: you had I tried to go. I tried to go,

455
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Speaker 1: uh three weeks ago, but they were sold out of

456
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 1: Catfish on the team bus right now, we'll go put

457
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Speaker 1: it up. Though it was on the team, but anything

458
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Speaker 1: you heard about the Sonics in any new news. So

459
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Speaker 1: I heard about the hockey team coming probably two or

460
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Speaker 1: three years ago, and in Seattle since they left in

461
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Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, since that was the last year,

462
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 1: we'd be like, oh, five years Sonics coming back. Now,

463
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 1: it's really I believe it's gonna happen through expansion, but

464
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: we need the hockey team first, and they're here. The

465
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 1: cracking is here, it's doing well. Vegas and Seattle want

466
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Speaker 1: the two coming on board. I could see that and

467
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 1: then maybe move Memphis to the east or something right like,

468
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Speaker 1: I could see that. I'm just throwing out there speaking

469
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Speaker 1: to exist nothing. Yeah, what are you about? Polo ban

470
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Speaker 1: Caro um coached him in Yes, he had a problem.

471
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Speaker 1: He's a problem. What's what's your take on? Love him?

472
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 1: I love his family because the family he comes from,

473
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Speaker 1: like he's him, his brother's sister are going to be

474
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Speaker 1: successful whatever they do because they have a solid background,

475
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 1: They have solid footing. But he's a worker. Jim Ratt

476
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 1: loves to get better, humble when you talk to him.

477
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 1: He's still young in the sense of he wants to

478
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Speaker 1: he doesn't have all the answers he's thinking on the

479
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Speaker 1: top he listen. Okay, yeah, I'm by that, and that

480
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 1: part is dope about him. Whoever's getting him is gonna

481
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Speaker 1: get a franchise Cornerstone, you know, thinking numb. One pick

482
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: depends on who's picking. But yeah, I absolutely see him.

483
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,199
Speaker 1: I remember Spencer Hoges shut out Spencer Has he used

484
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Speaker 1: to tell me about. I'm like, grade like, there's this kid,

485
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: come me football too, man. Yeah, I know he didn't

486
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 1: tell me that. You know, I've been calling I've been

487
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: falling a little bron want to stay championship first year.

488
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 1: I've been folloing lot brush since a minute. And Spencer

489
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 1: Hawes is the one he's like, he's he's a pro.

490
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: Watch watch you saw another young one in the game, Murray,

491
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And you knew he was cold.

492
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: He had like forty something in that game against me,

493
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 1: cooking look like oh I look like old. Yeah, And

494
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 1: I was awful and already I was on a couple

495
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 1: of shots and some joints, and I was like, we're

496
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 1: really gonna play back. I thought he was kind of

497
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: working with us until I saw how many people and

498
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: there's like, oh, we're really about to play basketball? You

499
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 1: playing well at Georgia's own and everything left me. I

500
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: picked him up as soon. And you don't know that.

501
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 1: One thing that I remember vividly that I've been saying

502
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Speaker 1: you did. He didn't know one thing. One thing I

503
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 1: remember why you were still playing was because I haven't

504
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: see you at the tournaments. I tell you, like, how

505
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,120
Speaker 1: fun it is coaching the kids. You got to coach yourself,

506
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: and you didn't really weren't really you finally did that?

507
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,479
Speaker 1: Tell us what that experience is like, you know, to

508
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: do that with your just honestly, we have practice tomorrow.

509
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: There's honestly, we got practiced night. Do you how many

510
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: times you practically just once? If that we do three? Yeah,

511
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 1: you guys are militant over there. Man, sessions still quarters,

512
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 1: We're still We're going to number one. See us. We

513
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: want we want to Jersey's reversible. Talk to you. It's

514
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Speaker 1: the best thing ever, right, It's nothing like I would

515
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: rather do that to anything, like if you were like,

516
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: let's go hoop, I can go hoop and still be

517
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: pretty good, but I would rather do that and the

518
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: kids to see where they go from points nothing. And

519
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 1: I see you on the side, and I actually took

520
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Speaker 1: something from You're always so calm. I'm like, damn, how's

521
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: he that calm in a high intense game. I'm watching it.

522
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, because you may have parents, I'm mad, you know,

523
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 1: they want to get into it just because you're you.

524
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: So I'm going through that part of it. But there's

525
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: nothing better in the world. And that's my favorite thing

526
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: to do. Absolutely got ternament this weekend. So do we

527
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: we're getting we're Corona shout out, Uh, you see you

528
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 1: trying you right now. I hear them. I'm catching it.

529
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 1: But I was gonna say, was you know we're doing

530
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: something basketball dads, you know, shout out. I got Tommy's

531
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Speaker 1: here behind the shout Tommy, Tommy Gunns. We do. We're

532
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: gonna bring this directly right to showtime basketball. But there's

533
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: so many of us. It's it's me you, I mean

534
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Speaker 1: j R. Ryder, Will Will um Man. You see, you

535
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: see dads all the time out there. Paul Pierce has

536
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 1: been out there. It's it's they're all over the place.

537
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: And it's dope because you know that Number one, you're

538
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: showing the dad's in a different life. Number two, you're

539
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: getting like you know, the kids are getting good information,

540
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 1: you know, I mean like you know they're getting tossed, right.

541
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: You see a lot of in this you spacing Jack,

542
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: You've got kids, name you space. I mean some of

543
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: these my fucking coaches have no idea. All you want

544
00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 1: to do is scream. And I'm like, you're not You're

545
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: not too to nobody, and that's I'm like, you'll be

546
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: able to play for anybody. You're no terminology, right, you'll

547
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: be able to play for anybody. We're giving a professional

548
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: stuff at nine, ten, eleven, twelve, So by the time

549
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: it comes come on, Manute the home process scout reports, Well, man,

550
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: it was good to catch up with you. Always, always

551
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 1: good to see you. You're part of the family now,

552
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 1: so we're gonna see you more. What's up? I'm chilling bro,

553
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: all right before we get out of here, we got

554
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: some quick kids for your family. Do it favorite road

555
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: crowd to silence Showtime. He's on with show Time, but

556
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 1: his nickname is show Time, and you can break that.

557
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: You can break that story. How I got prime Time?

558
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: You show Time? Because I don't think tell him? You

559
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 1: tell him? You tell Okay, Well, popcorn, it's always popping

560
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: before the game. We're not always with seven thirties. Definitely, yeah,

561
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: definitely seven thirties. Got to be friend right before the

562
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 1: opening doors with the ring, butter earlier. You're doing Salt season.

563
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: I got you too, game pop garing, popping Jack showtime.

564
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: So I started calling him showtime. So he started calling

565
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: me prime time. And tell him if you still called

566
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: me prime time, we'll tell him why you called me

567
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: show Because when time the turn the lights come out

568
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: on the pop won't get the popping in the showtime

569
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: he puts on the show on the show, I called

570
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: him prime time because obviously Deon Sanders prime shout of

571
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: Deon is the best of the best. Could do anything

572
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: any time. If Stack could get twenty, but he could

573
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: lock you up and let everybody know about it. So

574
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: he was like prime time to me. I'm like, my offense,

575
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: my defense that I ain't play, No d like that

576
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: your defense right now is admirable. I can't guard Kobe,

577
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: but you're doing a good job of it. So that's

578
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: why I started calling It's a good story, favorite, wrote

579
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: Crowd of Silence. I would say, you talk, I would say,

580
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: because they're right there on top of you. They was

581
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: just yeah, I would say whatever we feel you. Yeah,

582
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: I'll say you talk. It's a high percentage of the league.

583
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: There's gonna say utalk. So on the top five crossover

584
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: kings of all time. M give me you U plus four.

585
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: I take myself off myself. You want to be the

586
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: sixth man of that list? Yeah, I'll be six man.

587
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: Kyrie original is there? That's what I grew up watching

588
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: Renor number eleven white chocolate m man? Would you say that? Iverson?

589
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: Can't forget check each That's four. I'm gonna go with

590
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw my move, my got moved. Yeah, I

591
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: love him solid and Nick the quick that could share

592
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: us three and then beat and Steve Steve Francis. Yeah,

593
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: some great talent. Yeah, biggest ship talking. You have a

594
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: face GP campaign in KG. I mean KG had like

595
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: a real beef. I'm like k G KG, I'm just

596
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: a rookie. We're not really supposed to be beefing you.

597
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: But it's no own and off switch with him. It's

598
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: all on all the time. But those two and he

599
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: didn't know at the time that he was one of

600
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: my favorite players ever. I love K but um get

601
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: those two favorite shoes you ever hooped in outside the

602
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: brand blacks some nineteen A three high top shell tops.

603
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: Summer we all came out. I was wearing shell tops everywhere,

604
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: and I was playing them to my boy David Hudson

605
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: shower d Hoodie threw him in the busher, so I

606
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: couldn't wear him no more. Not the shoes you have

607
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: with the clippers telling that story, it probably worse than they.

608
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: So they brought a shoe deal that to actually both

609
00:30:55,760 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: of us, and uh Jamal went with it. But I

610
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: have bad toes, so I like, I tried it. I

611
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: wanted to do it. The money they offered was cool.

612
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: I was gonna do it, but I couldn't. I couldn't

613
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: do it. Fam took the deal, got his little deal,

614
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: had some merch with it, got some bread Ford everywhere.

615
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: These motherfucker shoes got so tight that like you know,

616
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: like when you're a little kid, you see the kids

617
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: that will tie the shop and the make both sidesm

618
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: and instill. The strings are like slow. You have to

619
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: like eight like triple on them. That's what the ship

620
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: used to do. And it was just touching family shoes

621
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: all right. She was breathing. There was like no middle

622
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: space at all, like the size would touch. It was

623
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: a fun run. Tell us, I just didn't want you

624
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: to know. I know why you got it. Wasn't shoot display.

625
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:52,959
Speaker 1: Yeah no, they came to me with a deal and

626
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I adn't dreamed about have my

627
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: own right, So I'm like, you know what, I gotta

628
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: i gotta take this deal, regardless of how they feel,

629
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: how my felt after. But yeah, I mean it was

630
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: dope from I saw the vision and I grew up

631
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: loving and he won Rebox. So at the time, Rebox

632
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: kind of off brand. It wasn't Nike or a Deid

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Speaker 1: when I don't really say off the Malik Ross because

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Speaker 1: he was such a pro good Mali. He was such

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Speaker 1: a pro and we were struggling with New York. But

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Speaker 1: he came from such a winning pedigree. I used to

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Speaker 1: always pick his brain about this spur want the championship

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Speaker 1: with Milik, Yeah, absolutely, my guy was favorite jersey jersey

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Speaker 1: war Raider Beach number three. That's the only jersey I

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Speaker 1: got on my own. And it's not I'm like, but

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Speaker 1: the most I ever had playing in high school, my

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Speaker 1: whole life. Top three defenders you ever faced besides you too,

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Speaker 1: Tony Allen Kauai because he's just super solid, like Longcolma

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Speaker 1: you put it down, they let him slap all this ship.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't even matter. There's no foul. And then, um,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Bruce Bone. Yeah. Top three toughest matchups

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Speaker 1: d But I'm gonna say Kobe Iver sent d way

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Speaker 1: actually question, have you ever been on that end of

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Speaker 1: one of his crossover ball moves like make somebody fall

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Speaker 1: did that a lot. I got to see your first hand.

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Speaker 1: He crossed Real and the Maiden Fall and kicking to

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Speaker 1: me for the three in Boston, it was just you

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Speaker 1: was talking ship and ad to get your bit ass.

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Speaker 1: I was with him with the with the one and

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Speaker 1: he laid like Jesus he did. He was the floor

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Speaker 1: was with the one where he made West Matthews just

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Speaker 1: give up in Portland. Yeah, he crossed him down and

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Speaker 1: then brought it back and then it just stands up.

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Speaker 1: You know me. I came and yeah he was. He

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Speaker 1: was in Seattle when y'all was playing West. But like

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Speaker 1: a boxer, I felt like he was going to run

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Speaker 1: up and he's a hard playing dude. And when he

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Speaker 1: when I did it, and he would like this some bullshit?

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Speaker 1: That what's going on here? How many? Yeah? This is

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Speaker 1: the bullshit? Huh for sure? What your mom? Man? It's

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Speaker 1: good to catch up again. Welcome to death Row. Welcome.

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Speaker 1: It's an honor to have you looking for this is

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Speaker 1: the legendary bringing show time. Oh yeah, you just do

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Speaker 1: you want to stage? Yeah? I'm glad. We right, But

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Speaker 1: my favorite tickling is not in your contract, bro. Yeah

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Speaker 1: that was na. That's a close that's that's hold no,

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Speaker 1: you just time basketball YouTube. See y'all next time, Then

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