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Speaker 2: I want to talk about the repair you don't make,

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Speaker 2: or you shouldn't make. Maybe you don't want to make it.

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Speaker 2: You know, I posted something up on Instagram this week

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Speaker 2: last night, as a matter of fact, talking about this

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Speaker 2: twenty eighteen jeep Grand Cherokee. We had a twenty eighteen

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Speaker 2: Jeep Grand Cherokee, and maybe I talked about this up

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Speaker 2: on air. I don't remember in the last week or so,

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Speaker 2: it was within the last ten days. We fixed the

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Speaker 2: vehicle and I posted a video showing the diagnosis. How

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Speaker 2: and I walk you through the wiring diagram, you know,

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Speaker 2: and you know we checked this, We checked that, and

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Speaker 2: I gave you the reasoning and I did it in

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Speaker 2: about two minutes. So it's it's pretty good. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's a pretty pretty good diagnosis for two minutes and done.

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Speaker 2: Anytime I get air conditioning, you know, the air conditioning

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Speaker 2: doesn't work, Where do you begin? And I say this

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Speaker 2: all the time. Is it electrical? Is it chemical? Is

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Speaker 2: it control? What's wrong? It's one of the few systems

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Speaker 2: that has multiple things attached to it that can make

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Speaker 2: it stop working. And you know, I went through the diagnosis.

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Speaker 2: It had refrigerant. I proved on a scan tool. I

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Speaker 2: pushed the button and it showed me command. It said yes,

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Speaker 2: I want AC okay, And I went out to the

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Speaker 2: control relay which I show you in the video in

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Speaker 2: the wiring diagram to test that and I verified that

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Speaker 2: I had power on eighty six and thirty getting to

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Speaker 2: the relay and they were good. I had I had

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Speaker 2: circuit connectivity, I had circuit integrity out to the compressor.

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Speaker 2: I was able to apply twelve vaults to that line

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Speaker 2: feed the compressor. The compressor came on. I proved that

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Speaker 2: the circuit was good, that the compressor was good, that

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Speaker 2: the ground was good. I'm down to is the compressor

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Speaker 2: being turned on? Is the ground control once it's applied

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Speaker 2: through the vehicle engine controller, is it telling the relay, Hey,

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Speaker 2: turn on, do something now? I looked at all conditions, right, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's the other thing, right, you get an AC system,

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Speaker 2: you have to look at all the conditions. You have

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Speaker 2: to look and see. You know, is are there any

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Speaker 2: sensors in the vehicle that are telling you, hey, don't

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Speaker 2: you know, don't turn on the air conditioning for whatever reason?

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Speaker 2: And you know it was and this one was sort

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Speaker 2: of a straightforward decision.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 2: I proved that it was a bad air conditioning relay.

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Speaker 2: And here's where things went south. Chrysler, in their infinite wisdom,

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Speaker 2: decided not to make the relay replaceable. It was built

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Speaker 2: into and part of the underhood powered distribution center, which

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Speaker 2: if you've popped the hood on any late model Chrysler

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Speaker 2: in the last ten twelve years, probably longer than that.

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Speaker 2: The power distribution Center, not the TIP THEM, although TIP

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Speaker 2: them's a totally integrated power module, is sort of the

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Speaker 2: same idea. It has all the fuses and relays and everything.

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Speaker 2: It's under the hood. It's close to the battery and alternator.

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Speaker 2: They put it there and then split the circuits and

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Speaker 2: go out into the car for engineering reasons or however

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Speaker 2: they're going to design it. Okay, but the relay is

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Speaker 2: not replaceable. You have to replace the whole PDC. You

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Speaker 2: have to change the whole box. And I did. It

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Speaker 2: was a thousand bucks just for the box, and you know,

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Speaker 2: with labor and some diagnostic and you know, yeah, it

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Speaker 2: was close to two grand by the time you were done. Now,

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Speaker 2: one of the things I love about my job is

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Speaker 2: I get to post these videos and you know, look

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Speaker 2: at your comments, and I read every one of your comments.

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Speaker 2: I do when I think about it, and some of

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Speaker 2: you make really great points. Some of you are a

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Speaker 2: bunch of trolls. You know, it's just it is what

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Speaker 2: it is. And I saw one comment that said, g ron,

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Speaker 2: why don't you just wire a different relay into it?

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Speaker 2: You know, the problem there is the replacement parts one

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Speaker 2: why didn't I put a relay in? It becomes a

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Speaker 2: question of liability. It sounds reasonable, sure, you know, let's

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Speaker 2: let's let's do an AC harness or an AC relay

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Speaker 2: run around. I could come up with a relay. It

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Speaker 2: it was your own vehicle, you could make that decision.

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Speaker 2: I can't make that decision. I'm the professional. I'm the

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Speaker 2: guy that's going to stand in front of the judge.

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Speaker 2: You know, the moment I bypass factory circuits as any mechanic,

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Speaker 2: the moment we change something that the factory designed, whether

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Speaker 2: you like it or not, you're no longer repairing that vehicle.

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Speaker 2: You're redesigning it. Every engineering decision that goes into that circuit,

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Speaker 2: you know, and I don't know them all. You know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that PDC has different communication stances with the body

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Speaker 2: control module. Maybe it monitors current show. Maybe it's designed

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Speaker 2: to shut down under certain fault conditions to prevent wiring

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Speaker 2: or overheating or some sort of fatality. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Could I make the compressor run if the customer commanded

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Speaker 2: it yeah, absolutely, I'm sure I could figure that out.

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Speaker 2: But a mechanic, when they repair a customer's vehicle, they

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Speaker 2: are now responsible for that work in the sense that

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Speaker 2: you know, I, I, here's Ron's design. It's all great

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Speaker 2: and good until you're standing in front of the judge

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Speaker 2: and he's going to say, Hey, Ron, ho you how

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Speaker 2: come you decided to rewire the factory wiring on that

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Speaker 2: twenty eighteen jeep that mister Smith had the fire and

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Speaker 2: then unfortunately he was trapped in the vehicle and passed

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Speaker 2: in u Hamahammad Ahamadahamahamada. You know, the PDC has already broken,

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Speaker 2: and this is what you have to think about. That

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Speaker 2: powered distribution Center's already broken, so there's already something wrong

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Speaker 2: with it. Suppose there's a wiring failure. Suppose something internal

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Speaker 2: goes on. Suppose something completely unrelated to that AC relay

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Speaker 2: causes a small electrical fire somehow inside that PDC. You

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Speaker 2: think they're going to know that all they're going to

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Speaker 2: see is a melted powered distribution center, a melted wiring harness,

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Speaker 2: a melted right front corner of the engine compartment, the

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Speaker 2: ensuing fire that encompassed everything because it got to the

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Speaker 2: gasoline line, and the judge is going to look at me,

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Speaker 2: and the insurance company is going to look at me

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Speaker 2: and say, who modified the vehicle? Oh gee, we couldn't

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Speaker 2: find it in the fire. But look, we've got this

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Speaker 2: invoice from mister Smith that says, you know, modify, modify

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Speaker 2: the powered distribution center just because we don't want to

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Speaker 2: spend one thousand nine That thousand dollars looks like a bargain,

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Speaker 2: right because the insurance company, the attorney, the judge, why

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Speaker 2: did you alter the manufacturer's design? And that's why these

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Speaker 2: are the repairs you shouldn't make. These are the repairs

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Speaker 2: you can't make. I never want to answer that question.

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Speaker 2: I never want to stand in front of the judge. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I get it. You know you think that working on

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Speaker 2: a car is just make it work, doesn't matter. But

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Speaker 2: every repair that are a real shop, not the jerks

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Speaker 2: that don't stand behind their stuff, and not the internet trolls,

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Speaker 2: and not all the guys that you know can talk about, hey,

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Speaker 2: I can make this shortcut and make it work for

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Speaker 2: three bucks. But the guys that are trying to do

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Speaker 2: it correctly and professionally, there's a liability in what they do.

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Speaker 2: Every decision has consequences beyond the repair bill. One of

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Speaker 2: the standards I lived by throughout my career is simple.

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Speaker 2: It's really kind of how I live life. You never

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Speaker 2: perform a repair you can't confidently explain to a customer

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Speaker 2: or another technician, an engineer, or a judge. You never

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Speaker 2: want to stand in front of the judge if you repair.

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Speaker 2: If your actions can't survive those conversations, it probably shouldn't

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Speaker 2: be done. You know, there's life lessons in order repair.

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Speaker 2: It's not just about fixing cars, it's how do you

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Speaker 2: want to apply what you do to life. I think

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Speaker 2: professional technicians simply don't make things work. We repair. We

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Speaker 2: repair and make it work, but we follow a factory procedure.

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Speaker 2: Doing it right protects to you the customer, it protects

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Speaker 2: the vehicle, it protects us, and it keeps everybody safe

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Speaker 2: on the road. Because before you make any repair, you've

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Speaker 2: always got to ask youself one question. If I have

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Speaker 2: to explain this in a courtroom five years from now,

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Speaker 2: would I still believe it to be the correct repair?

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Speaker 2: If the answer is anything less than yes, then you

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Speaker 2: got to rethink what you're doing because that's what professional

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Speaker 2: responsibility looks like. I'm running any in the car. I'll

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Speaker 2: be back after this car advice done? Right, join us

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Speaker 2: eight five five five six oh nine nine zero zero.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to is it Lori and Maine? Am I

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Speaker 2: saying that?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Yes sir, right, yes sir. We live near Bangalore, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 2: How can I help you?

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Speaker 5: We have a son who's thirty three years old. He

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Speaker 5: lives in Arizona, and he moved from Tucson, where he

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Speaker 5: did not need a car, to flag Staff and he's

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Speaker 5: about to get his driver's license. He knows nothing about cars,

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Speaker 5: knows nothing about maintenance. Would yeah, we have no family

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Speaker 5: there would at least a least car would be a

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Speaker 5: good start as a starter car for someone.

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Speaker 2: I like the idea of a lease car for someone

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Speaker 2: that's not car knowledgeable. Right, and listen, I get it,

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Speaker 2: you know what. To some people, cars just don't make sense.

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's just the way it is. It's not

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Speaker 2: a bad mark on them. I did a I did

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Speaker 2: a video the other week at the gym. I was

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Speaker 2: somebody asked me about batteries. And I answered the question,

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Speaker 2: and they said, boy, that's a really great answer. You

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Speaker 2: somebody else at the gym the next week said to me, boy,

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Speaker 2: I saw your video was great. Really did it make sense?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't understand the thing about cars,

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Speaker 2: but it made sense. I really enjoyed listening to you hawk.

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Speaker 2: You know, they said, I just trust my mechanics. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean for him to do a lease. You know,

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Speaker 2: he's thirty three.

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Speaker 5: Yes, he's got that needed a car. He was great

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Speaker 5: in the city, and that would have been really inconvenience.

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Speaker 5: So he never bought the deep and goodest license.

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Speaker 2: He's he's got good credit. Oh yes, yeah, then he

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Speaker 2: should be. You know, but I mean, you know the

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Speaker 2: deal with the lease. A lease is no different than

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Speaker 2: somebody that that doesn't lease, right, you know, leasing means

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Speaker 2: he's going to have a monthly payment all the time.

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Speaker 2: You know, there may be mileage restrictions, so he's got

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Speaker 2: to find out about that. You know, I don't know

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Speaker 2: how far he commutes.

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Speaker 5: You know, he's only about a mile and a half

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Speaker 2: Okay, so he should be Okay there, you know, because

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Speaker 2: typically a lease has you know, ten to twelve thousand

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Speaker 2: miles a year. Sometimes you get longer leases, longer mileage,

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Speaker 2: but you got to look at the cost, right. The

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Speaker 2: one nice thing about a lease for him is it'll

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Speaker 5: Leases are hard to get out of when you reach

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Speaker 2: They can, you know they can, Laurie, And that's a

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Speaker 2: that's a that's an excellent point. That's another perspective of leasing,

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Speaker 5: You know, I'll give we weren't three thousand miles away,

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Speaker 2: Well I would think, well maybe maybe insurance is different

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Speaker 5: Would a new driver, would a new driver recent just

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Speaker 2: Do you think they look at credit more than anything else? Okay,

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Something something new, yes, go look at what's my budget?

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Speaker 5: Well, there would be prison all we're thinking Corolla maybe

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Speaker 2: Twenty five to thirty thousand if we're going to if

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Speaker 2: it's so hard to predict the lease deals. Gosh, a

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Speaker 2: I know someone that was leasing. She was paying three

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Speaker 5: Do you find lease it's hard to get out of

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Speaker 2: It depends on it. Honestly, it depends on the dealership.

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Speaker 2: you know, they're loaning you a vehicle. They want it back.

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Speaker 2: Reasonable wear and tear. Now, when you do lease, there

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Speaker 5: So I had a friend who had had a jeep.

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Speaker 5: When he turned it in, he was two hundred and

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Speaker 5: and I thought that was unreasonable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that is unreasonable, and I would want

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Speaker 2: Because what prevents the manufacturer from saying, well, you know,

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Speaker 2: get a dealer, well, without question, as much as we

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Speaker 2: can try, right, But I think that's a fair question

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Speaker 2: think that's the email you write before you agree to

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Speaker 2: the deal. So listen, I'm thinking about this car. But

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Speaker 2: a friend of mine had this problem when he leased.

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Speaker 2: How would you guys handle that? Oh, yeah, we wouldn't

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Speaker 2: do that to you. This way, you've got it in writing.

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Speaker 2: So three years from now, when oh, by the way,

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Speaker 2: you've you've got an answer. You know, you've got it

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Speaker 2: in writing. You're covered. So that's it. That's how I

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Speaker 2: something that won't have more than thirty thousand miles. I

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Speaker 2: like to buy mileage. If I'm buying a used car,

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Speaker 2: If that, Yeah, that's right. Yeah. And part of the

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Speaker 2: and how many mistakes did they make? That thirty thousand

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Speaker 2: you know that sixty thousand mile vehicle, if it hasn't

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 2: All those factors, all those.

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Speaker 5: Factors to you said that when you buy a new

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Speaker 2: If I own it, Yeah, if I'm buying that thirty

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Speaker 2: don't know the history, yeah, I would kind of want

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Speaker 2: to start that way. If it's wet, change it. If

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Speaker 2: it's a filter, replace it, you know, even if it's

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Speaker 2: even even if it looks new. But whose brand is it?

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Speaker 2: You know? And it's hard to tell every every air

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Speaker 2: in cabin filter in this day and age, says Maid

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Speaker 2: in China on it, And I can show you some

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Speaker 2: really well made Maiden China filters, and I can show

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Speaker 2: you some junk. You know, how well do they fit

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Speaker 2: the box? How well do they protect? Are they going

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Speaker 2: I hope you I hope you do well. I'm running

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Speaker 2: any in the car, doctor. I'll be back right after.

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Speaker 6: This from the city street. It's to the open road tonight.

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Speaker 6: Hell Ron will keep you roll.

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Speaker 2: I really liked how Laurie did that, our previous caller

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Speaker 2: how he's going to do it. I think as parents,

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Speaker 2: a flat? How do you do some simple basic maintenance?

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Speaker 2: Part of part of what And I blame this on Funes,

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Speaker 2: right because we've all got our head in our phones.

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Speaker 2: You know, we don't know how to walk into a

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Speaker 2: You know, my car does this, my car does that?

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Speaker 2: You know, And there's a thousand questions that always follow

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Speaker 2: So I you know, Laurie, you're doing a great thing.

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Speaker 2: And congratulations. Let's gover to Tom and Illinois sixteen Dodge Charger. Tom,

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Speaker 2: how can I help Sara? Yes, sir, what's going on?

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Speaker 3: Well, my son's twenty sixteen Dodge Charger SXT. It's a

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Speaker 3: They've ruled out the exhaust system, rumble, they've ruled out

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Speaker 2: is the drive shift between the trans and the rear right.

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Speaker 2: See now I'm going to assume dangerous word that this

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Speaker 3: Well, okay, I don't believe.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe it is. I also I also believe

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Speaker 2: If I can do, I have rotational wear in my

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Speaker 2: that the engine's been out of the car once and

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00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 2: it's kind of a hot rod, right, it's a twenty

431
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 2: sixteen charger.

432
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 3: Right.

433
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,880
Speaker 2: Look at the exhaust and you know, if you could

434
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 2: find another one, it would be great. But I start

435
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 2: to think about is this a resonance vibration?

436
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 3: Is this?

437
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 2: Is this a low level rumble? You ever get underneath

438
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 2: some cars and you look at the exhaust system and

439
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,360
Speaker 2: you know, God, look at this dumb engineer. We put

440
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 2: this weight here. Why didn't he attach this weight to

441
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 2: the exhaust system? And then you get your car. It's

442
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,239
Speaker 2: got this resonance to it, and you find out that

443
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 2: that weight that's hanging out in space actually does something right.

444
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 2: So you know, is this factory exhausted on this car?

445
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 2: I'm betting it's not, because I'm betting somebody who's playing

446
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 2: hot rod hot rod skitsky on this car. I got

447
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 2: this vibration in my suburban. I'll tell you the story

448
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 2: of this one. I got this vibration in my suburban.

449
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 2: It's my four bus one hundred thousand miles and I

450
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 2: just noticed it the other day. If I'm sitting in

451
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 2: a traffic light, just the right conditions, I get this

452
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 2: little huh, what the heck is that? I know what

453
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 2: it is. The motor mounts are hard. Now the car

454
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 2: is twenty two years old. The motor mounts are so

455
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 2: hard they can't absorb engine vibration at the right level,

456
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 2: and it's creating little minor distortions throughout the rest of

457
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 2: the car. If I put my hand on top of

458
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 2: the dash where the bezel that you know, the outside

459
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 2: trim molding meets the dash top itself, if I just

460
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 2: touch it gently, the noise goes away. It's it's it's

461
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 2: the subtlest of things. And that may be what you're

462
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 2: looking for here. You're looking for some sort of subtile,

463
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 2: low level frequency interference problem. And you know, perhaps you

464
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 2: know it sounds stupid. Hose clamp, hose clamp, A bunch

465
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 2: of will waits to the exhaust system. Does it change anything?

466
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 2: You know, you start looking for that kind of a thing,

467
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 2: you know, But like I said, is it after market exhaust?

468
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 2: Is it? Is it factory exhaust? Is it after market exhaust?

469
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 2: Because provided it's real, it's a legitimate problem. Yes, it

470
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 2: shouldn't be there. But I'm going to start to look

471
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 2: as I described it to you, and then I'm going

472
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:56,479
Speaker 2: to start to look at body mounts, trans mount, engine mount.

473
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 2: Was the trans out of the car when they did

474
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 2: the engine? Did they put the trans mount back properly,

475
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 2: even though it was done before you bought the car?

476
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 2: But I've seen cases where there was supposed to be

477
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 2: a shim under the trans mount between the mount and

478
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 2: the cross member, okay, and they didn't put it back,

479
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 2: for example, and then and then ten thousand miles later,

480
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 2: because the trans wasn't at the proper angle and its

481
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 2: relationship to the drive shaft, it created it created a

482
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 2: weird a weird wear pattern.

483
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 3: Okay.

484
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 2: Right, So but that's those are some of the things

485
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 2: I would go look at, Tom all right, you know

486
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 2: that's that's that's where I would that's my perspective. I mean,

487
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 2: you know, if you want a peace of mind, maybe

488
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: i'd take the drive shaft out and you know, tell

489
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 2: me what's good. I'll tell you what's bad. Right, I

490
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 2: take the drive shaft out, send it out to a shop.

491
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 2: Can you tell me is the shaft balanced? Is the

492
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 2: shaft straight? Yes? It is? Okay, good? Take that off

493
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 2: the list. And then the second one's a little harder.

494
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 2: You know, you'd probably have to talk to a body shop.

495
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 2: Did they have only because of what I'm going to

496
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 2: tell you. Do they have a way to verify that

497
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 2: the rear is in correct alignment to the square of

498
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 2: the car and the back of the trans Okay, right,

499
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 2: you know we're dealing with and I say a body shop,

500
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: because body shops have frame machines. Body shops. Body shops

501
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 2: can measure every angle underneath that car that they choose

502
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 2: to Because if three repair shops looked at it, and

503
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 2: I'm going to assume they were competent, at least one

504
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 2: of them had to be competent, right right, right, you

505
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 2: know that's your chance. One of them had to be competent.

506
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 2: This is nothing mechanical, This is nothing obvious to the

507
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 2: naked ice. So we got to do a little digging,

508
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 2: all right, And that's that's kind of how I would

509
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 2: approach it.

510
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 3: Are you good? Thank you?

511
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 2: All right, sir, you're very welcome. Good luck to you.

512
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 2: If you find it, let us know. I'm always curious.

513
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:56,239
Speaker 3: I'll do that.

514
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 2: Okay, You're very welcome. You be well, and you know

515
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 2: we'll look forward to that conversation. Eight five, five, five, six,

516
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 2: nine nine zero zero running aiding the car doctor. We

517
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 2: are back right after this? Oh wait, I don't want

518
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 2: to go. I like that song.

519
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 4: All right.

520
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: The other day I was I was up on Facebook

521
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 2: and I got to listen to Jan and Dean, dead

522
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 2: Man's Curve and Surf City. My God, what great songs.

523
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 4: Right.

524
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 2: Just they don't write them like that anymore. They have

525
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 2: written like that in well sixty years. Just good stuff,

526
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 2: good stuff. So cars have generated music as well as

527
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: everything else they've done for us. So always a good time.

528
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 2: Micah Main, Micah, how are you today? What's going on?

529
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 4: I'm doing great? But I wanted to say, hey, you're

530
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 4: back with Ron and this is the Handel's No, there

531
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 4: you go.

532
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 2: What's what's going on? Micah?

533
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 4: Well, I wanted to follow up with you. You may

534
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 4: recall that I had needed to get my bumper repainted

535
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 4: and they ended up replacing the whole bumper. It was

536
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 4: easier based on the clips and everything painted it and

537
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 4: matches perfectly. And while they were taking the bumper off,

538
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 4: because my headlights have all hazed up from the sun,

539
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 4: they couldn't be fixed anymore because the haze was on

540
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 4: the inside. I wanted to replace the headlights assembly. So

541
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 4: the crew asked me to get the headlights myself from

542
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 4: my local dealership, and they gave me a price that

543
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 4: was out of this world. And as it turned out,

544
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 4: it was about eighty dollars over the MSRP. And I

545
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:29,719
Speaker 4: told them that and they said, well that's what we

546
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 4: charged for them. So I ended up the body shop

547
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 4: was able to get them for me for about one

548
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty dollars less than the MSRP. Actual OEM parts,

549
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 4: no problem at all, it was the part that I

550
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 4: needed OEM. Everything was great, so I was a little concerned.

551
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 4: You know what my dealership has charging their parts department

552
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 4: is charging way over MSRP. So anyway, this week I

553
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 4: finally finished up the car. My wheels that had road

554
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 4: rash on it. Time to get them repowder coated. Got

555
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 4: a place up here does a great job on it.

556
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 4: Got them done, and the center plastic hubs on the

557
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 4: wheels they just look bad because the wheels look perfect,

558
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 4: brand new. So I decided to replace those and so

559
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 4: I called the dealership and again if the MSRP on

560
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 4: those things were twenty six dollars, the dealership said forty

561
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 4: four dollars apiece. I said, wait, the MSRP is twenty six.

562
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 4: He said, oh, okay, we'll give them to you for

563
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 4: the MSRP. And my dealership the service department was willing

564
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 4: to put him on for me. Made it easy. I

565
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 4: could have gotten them for about three or four dollars

566
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 4: cheap or someplace else. I went to the dealership, but

567
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 4: I know the service director of the dealership. I don't

568
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 4: know the parts director, but I known the service director

569
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 4: really well. And I told him what happened, and he said,

570
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 4: that doesn't sound right. This isn't my department. But let

571
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 4: me look into it because that doesn't sound right at all.

572
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 4: And he knows me, and he knows that I'm not

573
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 4: making it up. And I just wanted to let you

574
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 4: know that I followed it up. But you know, my

575
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 4: dealership has been great with me. You know, I've talked

576
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 4: to you about them, I've raved about them and all that.

577
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 4: But I can't believe that one particular department in the

578
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 4: dealership would treat customers that poor.

579
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: L Well. You know, my first comment and thought is

580
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 2: that the dealership change hands, is it's still the same

581
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 2: original owners, then the parts director, in my opinion, is

582
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 2: probably trying to create a different profit margin. Maybe he's

583
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 2: trying to pay the parts guys differently or more, and

584
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: he's looking to generate more out of parts than he

585
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 2: was doing so previously because something changed, Right if if

586
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I see and I see, listen,

587
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 2: I see dealers charging more than what the manufacturer recommends.

588
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 2: And you know it is what it is in a

589
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 2: sense because I get it. You know, I walk into

590
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 2: a diner and I buy scrambled eggs and bacon, and

591
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 2: they charge me nine dollars. I can surely go to

592
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: the supermarket and buy it for a lot less. So

593
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: there is some you know, they they've well, but they've

594
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 2: got it well. But my point is they're just trying

595
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 2: to generate profit out of what they have to work with.

596
00:30:55,680 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: Is it fair? No? Does it make sense? There's something

597
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: going on there, Micah. I'm just telling you how they

598
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 2: might be looking at it. I'm not trying to defend it.

599
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that that's how people, that's how you

600
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 2: have to approach it. You know, I would go talk

601
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 2: to you know, depending on what the service manager gets

602
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: back to you with, I would go maybe go talk

603
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: to the parts director or go talk to the owner

604
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 2: of the dealership and say, hey, I'm a twelve year

605
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 2: or eleven year customer. I've been coming to you guys

606
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 2: all these time. Is there something going on? Can I

607
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 2: just expect that parts is going to cost me more?

608
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: But for that matter, if you buy them through the

609
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 2: service department, are you going to pay more also? There?

610
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's a possibility as well, because I called

611
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 4: the people I know at the service department, not the director,

612
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 4: but the service writers that I know, and I asked

613
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 4: them if they would be able to put them on

614
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 4: for me, and they said, yeah, I can get them

615
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 4: on order for you, and it's going to be forty

616
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 4: four dollars apiece. And I said, nope, already have them

617
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 4: on order for considerably less, but from your place. But

618
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 4: I have a feeling that I'm being charged more than

619
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 4: ANSRP for some of the parts are being put on

620
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 4: the car too, although the prices for the service that

621
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 4: I've been paying have been absolutely reasonable, including the parts

622
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 4: when I've needed them. So I'm not sure how it

623
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 4: always works. Maybe it's some specific parts.

624
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: I wonder what they're charging for an oil filter, because

625
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: I could I could see a lot of do it

626
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 2: Yourselfers walking in on a Saturday to get an oil

627
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: filter to change the oil on their Subaru wants you

628
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: try and find out and then ask them, Okay, so

629
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 2: why are you charging more for everything across the board?

630
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 2: Kind of an interesting conversation, right.

631
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, and for an oil change, I know I'm paying

632
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 4: sixty five to eighty dollars more or less, which is

633
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 4: a perfectly fair price, you know' that's what it is.

634
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 2: You know, no complaints about it, and I'd be curious.

635
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 2: I'd be curious what they're charging for an oil filter, Micah.

636
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 2: But I will tell you this, if you do end

637
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 2: up talking to Subaru America, they're going to probably tell

638
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 2: you it's up to the you know, it's up to

639
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: the individual dealer, so be aware of that too, so

640
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 2: tread gently. But you may be shopping for a new dealership.

641
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: My friend. Be well, I'm running Indy in the car. Doctor.

642
00:32:53,440 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 2: We are back right after this. Hey, let's kind of

643
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: wind it down this hour. Got an email in front

644
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: of me ted from Montana Rights. Hey, Royn, I've got

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Speaker 2: a two thousand and one Chevy pickup. I went out

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Speaker 2: the other day to open my door. I opened it,

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Speaker 2: I went to close it and the door wouldn't close.

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Speaker 2: I found out that the doorlatch is stuck and I

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Speaker 2: can't get a replacement part. I can't find one because

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Speaker 2: of the age. Do you have any suggestions. I live

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Speaker 2: out here in Montana on a horse farm where the

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Speaker 2: winters are cold and the summers are warm, and there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of rust and corrosion and cruding between. Yeah, Ted,

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Speaker 2: you know what WD forty. We just went through this

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Speaker 2: in the shop right. We had an older vehicle. We

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Speaker 2: got some of their rust remover product from WD forty.

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Speaker 2: We soaked the doorlatch. It was a doorlatch too. We

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Speaker 2: soaked the door latch in WD forty rust remover, and

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Speaker 2: then once it was all cleaned up, we soaked it

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Speaker 2: in WD forty itself, the original lubricant with the easy

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Speaker 2: reach nozzle, and we were able to get it everywhere

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Speaker 2: it had to be. And that latch works absolutely like news.

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Speaker 2: So if you got a letch, you can't get parts,

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Speaker 2: you can't get a new one. Go look at w

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Speaker 2: D forty. I'm running D in the car doctor. Good

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Speaker 2: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you, Hey's the car doctor.

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Speaker 2: curR advice don't ride