WEBVTT - S02 Episode 3: The Last Flight

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<v Speaker 1>At one pm Eastern Time on Wednesday, February the twenty second,

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and seventeen, NASA held a live press conference

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<v Speaker 1>to make an exciting announcement. They had discovered a peculiar

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<v Speaker 1>solar system located roughly forty light years from Earth. At

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<v Speaker 1>the heart of the system was an ultra cool dwarf star.

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<v Speaker 1>It was first spotted in two thousand and sixteen by

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<v Speaker 1>astronomers using the Trappist telescope in Chile, and so it

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<v Speaker 1>was named Trappist one. The star appeared to be orbited

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<v Speaker 1>by two Earth sized planets. In the months that followed,

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<v Speaker 1>a team of astronomers led by Michael Gillon from the

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<v Speaker 1>University of Liege, working with NASA's Spitzer telescope, made a

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<v Speaker 1>further incredible discovery. What they found was described by bits

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<v Speaker 1>A Center manager Shawn Carey as the most exciting discovery

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<v Speaker 1>in the history of the department. What Chillon's team uncovered

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<v Speaker 1>was not two Earth sized planets, but seven. Furthermore, three

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<v Speaker 1>of the planets were found to be occupying the crucial

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<v Speaker 1>Goldilocks zone, an area of orbit necessary for the potential

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<v Speaker 1>for water to a pool on a planet's surface. Such

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<v Speaker 1>a discovery is the first time ever that so many

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<v Speaker 1>potentially habitable planets had been found surrounding one single star.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only that, but the masses and radii of these

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<v Speaker 1>specific planets mark them out as possibly the best ever

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<v Speaker 1>to warrant further investigation for life, or at the very least,

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<v Speaker 1>a habitable ecosystem that could one day be explored. In

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<v Speaker 1>the words of nassa's Associate Administrator of the Science Mission Directorate,

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas Sir Buchan, the discovery gives us a hint that

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<v Speaker 1>finding a second Earth is not just a matter of if,

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<v Speaker 1>but when. What we have in this story is a

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<v Speaker 1>major step forward towards answering one of the questions that

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<v Speaker 1>is at the heart of so many of our philosophies,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is are we alone? You're listening to Unexplained,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm Richard McClane Smith. Also on the panel at

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<v Speaker 1>nassa's February press conference was Sarah Seeger, professor of planetary

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<v Speaker 1>Science and Physics at MIT and author of the Seeger equation.

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<v Speaker 1>The equation is considered by some to be an improved

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<v Speaker 1>rendering of the famous Drake equation. In nineteen sixty one,

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<v Speaker 1>the astronomer and physicist doctor Frank Drake devised his equation

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<v Speaker 1>to estimate the number of communicative extraterrestrial civilizations that are

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<v Speaker 1>likely to exist in the Milky Way galaxy. Drake's equation

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<v Speaker 1>takes into account a number of variables, such as the

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<v Speaker 1>rate of star formation, the average number of planets that

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<v Speaker 1>orbit stars, as well as to which fraction exactly such

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<v Speaker 1>planets might actually host sophisticated life forms. Although the equation

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<v Speaker 1>was intended partly as a point of discussion, many critics

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<v Speaker 1>were quick to argue that any attempt to estimate such

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<v Speaker 1>a number would involve too big a margin of error

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<v Speaker 1>to be reliable. However, a recent paper published by astrobiologists

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Frank of the University of Rochester and Woodruff Sullivan

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<v Speaker 1>of the University of Washington offered an interesting new approach

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<v Speaker 1>to the question. Rather than trying to estimate the possible

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<v Speaker 1>number of other extraterrestrial civilizations in our galaxy, they instead

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<v Speaker 1>asked what were the odds that the human rays might

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<v Speaker 1>be the only one. Their answer equated to roughly a

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<v Speaker 1>one in sixty billion chants. So, when you also consider

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<v Speaker 1>that the Milky Way is thought to be only one

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<v Speaker 1>of two trillion galaxies in the known observable universe. Not

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<v Speaker 1>only is it unfathomably unlikely that other civilizations don't exist

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<v Speaker 1>in the universe, but it is entirely plausible that some

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<v Speaker 1>may already have flourished and died out millions of times

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<v Speaker 1>over before our own. We might then wonder, much like

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<v Speaker 1>the great physicist Rico Fermi, if it is so likely

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<v Speaker 1>that other sophisticated life forms exist out there, why have

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<v Speaker 1>we never seen them, to which many, of course would reply,

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<v Speaker 1>but we have. The following story is considered by many

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<v Speaker 1>ufologists to be amongst the best evidence of an alien

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<v Speaker 1>visitation to our planet. What happened exactly in the skies

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<v Speaker 1>just off the coast of Melbourne, Australia in nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 1>eight has never been fully accounted for. It is a

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<v Speaker 1>mystery that remains to this day unexplained. It was love

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<v Speaker 1>at first sight, and as is often the case, it

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<v Speaker 1>was completely unplanned. It was some time in March nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy eight, and Ronda had only recently turned sixteen. That night,

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<v Speaker 1>she was accompanying her neighbor's son Peter to his regular

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<v Speaker 1>Friday social event at the Flight sixteen Air Cadet headquarters

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<v Speaker 1>in Maryborough, Melbourne. Peter had only recently joined the Australian

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<v Speaker 1>Air Training Corps and who was eager to share his

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<v Speaker 1>exciting new world with Ronda. What he hadn't banked on

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<v Speaker 1>was bumping into Fred. Peter had been showing Ronda round

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<v Speaker 1>the company buildings when Fred stepped out of a nearby

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<v Speaker 1>office and write into her path. He was dark haired,

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<v Speaker 1>handsome and elegant in his steel blue uniform. He introduced

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<v Speaker 1>himself to Ronda as Fred Valentiic, before turning back to Peter.

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<v Speaker 1>As the pair talked, Peter shifted uncomfortably whenever Fred's eyes

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<v Speaker 1>glanced away towards Ronda. The next week, Peter was overjoyed

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<v Speaker 1>when Ronda agreed to join him at the Cadet's Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>night dance. Sadly for Peter, however, who Ronda was really

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<v Speaker 1>hoping to see that night was Fred. Sure Enough, immediately

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<v Speaker 1>after she arrived, she spotted him holding court with some

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<v Speaker 1>friends at the back of the room. Unbeknownst to Ronda,

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<v Speaker 1>Fred too had been hoping or evening that the two

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<v Speaker 1>of them might meet again. There was only one problem, Peter,

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<v Speaker 1>but Fred had a plan. It was well known that

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<v Speaker 1>Peter's ill mother had given him a pager in case

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<v Speaker 1>she might ever need him at short notice some point

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<v Speaker 1>in the night. After waiting for just the right moment,

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<v Speaker 1>Fred slipped away from his table to use the payphone outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Moments later, he watched from the side of the hall

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<v Speaker 1>as Peter received the message with a look of disappointment

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<v Speaker 1>on his face. Of course, Fred knew it was a

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<v Speaker 1>cruel trick, but this was love, and sometimes that's all

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<v Speaker 1>that matters. Peter gestured his apologies to Ronda and made

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<v Speaker 1>his way out of the club. As Fred returned to

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<v Speaker 1>the end of Ronda's table, he was almost certain he

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<v Speaker 1>could see a look of relief across her face. It

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't gone unnoticed by Ronda that as the evening progressed,

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<v Speaker 1>Fred seemed to be making his way further and further

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<v Speaker 1>up the table, until finally he was sitting next to her,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they would remain for the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>night as the hours drifted by timelessly. The following monday,

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<v Speaker 1>Fred met Ronda's parents, and by the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>week the pair had agreed to make it official. A

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks later, Ronda was introduced to Fred's family at

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<v Speaker 1>his home in Avondale Heights, where she met and fell

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<v Speaker 1>in love with his parents, Alberta and Guido, his twelve

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<v Speaker 1>year old brother Ricky, and his two twin sisters, Olivia

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<v Speaker 1>and Laura. It was easy to see why Ronda was

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<v Speaker 1>so smitten by Fred. He was fun and easy to

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<v Speaker 1>be around, kind and well mannered, not to mention dashing

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<v Speaker 1>in his training Corps uniform. But there was one thing

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<v Speaker 1>that would have to be accommodated. It was Fred's dream

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<v Speaker 1>to be a commercial airline pilot, and he dedicated himself

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<v Speaker 1>to the task obsessively. Every spare minute was spent at

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<v Speaker 1>his flight school or with his nose buried inside one

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<v Speaker 1>of his training textbooks. Meeting up on weeknights was completely

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<v Speaker 1>out of the question, but come the weekend they were

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<v Speaker 1>like any other teenage couple. Fred wasn't a big drinker,

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<v Speaker 1>but he loved going out with Ronda, perhaps his favorite

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<v Speaker 1>moments being the ones they spent on Mount Dandenong, where

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<v Speaker 1>they would just sit and take in the view as

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<v Speaker 1>the evening sun gave way to the Melbourne city lights.

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<v Speaker 1>when Fred got the chance to clock up more flight time,

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<v Speaker 1>Ronda was only too happy to accompany him. She loved

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<v Speaker 1>the sensation of it, especially when the plane would break

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<v Speaker 1>through into brilliant sunshine the clouds stretching out below like

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<v Speaker 1>a soft blanket, almost as if you could step out

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<v Speaker 1>and walk across it and up there alone with Fred.

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<v Speaker 1>She'd never felt safer, even when he would loop the

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<v Speaker 1>loop on one of his acrobatic flights. As Ronda got

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<v Speaker 1>to know Fred a little better, there was one thing

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<v Speaker 1>that stood out more than anything. It was his meticulous nature,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it be making sure his car was running smoothly,

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<v Speaker 1>the pride he took in how he dressed, almost markedly

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<v Speaker 1>in his approach to his flight training. By mid May,

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<v Speaker 1>Fred had clocked over one hundred and forty hours and

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<v Speaker 1>had graduated to a Class four license, allowing him to

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<v Speaker 1>fly at night. By way of celebration, Fred took Ronda

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<v Speaker 1>on a six hundred mile flight to Spear's Point in

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<v Speaker 1>Newcastle to visit her favorite uncle, Michael. It had been

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<v Speaker 1>the perfect day, but the following morning, as the pair

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<v Speaker 1>prepared to fly home, Fred seemed concerned. He was convinced

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<v Speaker 1>that someone had tampered with the plane. After a short

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<v Speaker 1>time in the air, the column on the joystick seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to be loosening. Never wont to leave anything to chance,

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<v Speaker 1>Fred made an emergency descent towards Bankstown airport in Sydney.

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<v Speaker 1>Moments later, much to his shock, a military helicopter appeared

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<v Speaker 1>from nowhere and ordered them out of the sky. In

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<v Speaker 1>his eagerness to get the plane down, Fred had strayed

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<v Speaker 1>marginally into a restricted airspace. Minutes later, Fred and Ronda

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<v Speaker 1>touched down in Bankstown, but the incident would inevitably go

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<v Speaker 1>down as a blemish on Fred's record. His abject disappointment

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<v Speaker 1>in himself was a reminder to Ronda just how seriously

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<v Speaker 1>he took his training. A few months later, on September seventeenth,

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<v Speaker 1>just over four hundred miles south of Melbourne, across the

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<v Speaker 1>Bass Strait to the far side of Tasmania, a lighthouse

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<v Speaker 1>keeper spotted something strange in the sky. The keeper worked

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<v Speaker 1>at the Matsika Island Lighthouse, located off the southern coast

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<v Speaker 1>of mainland Tasmania. He had just completed his evening rounds

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<v Speaker 1>when he noticed an unfamiliar light in the sky. It

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<v Speaker 1>was extremely bright and appeared to be half moon in shape.

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<v Speaker 1>Moments after he spotted it, all the power in the

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<v Speaker 1>lighthouse inexplicably cut out. Bizarrely. After rushing to fix the problem,

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<v Speaker 1>the keeper found no blown fuses or tripped circuit breakers.

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<v Speaker 1>Five minutes later, the generator kicked into action and the

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<v Speaker 1>power was restored. The keeper returned to his previous lookout

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<v Speaker 1>point to find the strange light still hanging in the

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<v Speaker 1>night sky. A closer look with binoculars revealed what appeared

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<v Speaker 1>to be a small red dot in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the light, which seemed to move to the side as

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<v Speaker 1>if the light was turning. Ten minutes later, the power

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<v Speaker 1>cut out again and remained out for fifteen minutes before

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<v Speaker 1>it was finally restored, but again with no obvious cause.

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<v Speaker 1>Moments later, the lighthouse keeper watched as the strange light

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<v Speaker 1>eventually began to shrink, as if moving away from the island,

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<v Speaker 1>until it had completely disappeared. Back in Melbourne a few

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<v Speaker 1>weeks later, on Friday thirteenth of October, Fred and Ronda

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<v Speaker 1>drove to their favorite spot up in the Dandenong Ranges.

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<v Speaker 1>That night, they talked for hours as down below the

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<v Speaker 1>Yarra Valley stretched out before them, blanketed by the warm,

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<v Speaker 1>luminescent glow of a setting spring sun. Fred had never

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<v Speaker 1>been more happy. Having just turned twenty, he was passing

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<v Speaker 1>his exams and was well on the way to becoming

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<v Speaker 1>a commercial airline pilot, and of course he also had Ronda.

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<v Speaker 1>At some point, Fred pulled a box from his pocket

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<v Speaker 1>and opened it to reveal a ring. Will you marry me?

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<v Speaker 1>He asked. They'd known each other little over six months,

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<v Speaker 1>but everything about this felt right. They laughed at the

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<v Speaker 1>madness of it all. Ronda could barely hide her excitement

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<v Speaker 1>as Fred slipped the friendship band onto her wedding ring finger.

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<v Speaker 1>But then for a second she paused. Not only was

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<v Speaker 1>it Friday the thirteenth, but wasn't it bad luck to

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<v Speaker 1>place a friendship ring on the wedding ring finger? She thought,

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<v Speaker 1>But Fred didn't believe in such things. Besides, she would

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<v Speaker 1>have the real thing soon enough. In the meantime, he

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<v Speaker 1>asked that she keep it all a secret until Rohnda's

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<v Speaker 1>seventeenth birthday in December. Ronda didn't see Fred for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the week, preoccupied as he was, with preparations

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<v Speaker 1>for his latest milestone, a flight across open water. But

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<v Speaker 1>on the Friday, Fred drove to Ronda's house and the

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<v Speaker 1>pair made arrangements to meet for the flight the next day.

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<v Speaker 1>Ronda agreed that she would meet him at the airport

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<v Speaker 1>if she could get off work in time. Before he

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<v Speaker 1>left that night, they kissed on the doorstep, a kiss

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<v Speaker 1>that seemed to last a lifetime. Next morning, on Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>October the twenty first, Fred was up at six am,

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<v Speaker 1>buzzing with excitement as he went over the flight plans

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<v Speaker 1>in his head. After completing a shift at the AUSSI

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<v Speaker 1>Disposal store at one three nine Puckle Street where he worked,

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<v Speaker 1>Fred was soon on the freeway, racing towards Murrabin Airport

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<v Speaker 1>in southeast Melbourne. Fred had a three hour lesson to

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<v Speaker 1>negotiate before he could take his flight, but as was

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<v Speaker 1>often his way, he arrived early, so he did what

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<v Speaker 1>he always did in such circumstances. He took out his

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<v Speaker 1>textbooks and revised until one thirty when the class began.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in West Preston, Ronda was eagerly awaiting the end

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<v Speaker 1>of her shift. She'd arranged with her parents to drive

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<v Speaker 1>her down to the airport after her shift, but was

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<v Speaker 1>being held up by a delayed co worker. Ronda had

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<v Speaker 1>no choice but to cover until she arrived, but as

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<v Speaker 1>the minutes ticked by, Ronda lost her ride. She would

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<v Speaker 1>miss this flight, but Fred would be home before long,

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<v Speaker 1>and after all she had the evening's dance to look

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<v Speaker 1>forward to. Down at Murrabin Airport, Fred was disappointed not

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<v Speaker 1>to find Ronda waiting for him by his car After

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<v Speaker 1>the lesson in truth, the thought of flying over the

0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:15.200
<v Speaker 1>water alone made him a little nervous, but a quick

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<v Speaker 1>meteorological briefing revealed that the weather would be on his side,

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<v Speaker 1>and with sunset not due for another two hours, he

0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:24.000
<v Speaker 1>would have more than enough time to complete the journey

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<v Speaker 1>before it got dark. At seventeen twenty three hours, Fred

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<v Speaker 1>lodged his flight plan at the briefing office. He would

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<v Speaker 1>fly southwest along the coast to Cape Otway before heading

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<v Speaker 1>south over the Bass Strait to King Island at the

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<v Speaker 1>north of Tasmania, before returning back to mu Rabin Airport.

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<v Speaker 1>There was still no sign of Ronda, but Fred decided

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<v Speaker 1>to give her a few more minutes and headed off

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<v Speaker 1>to grab some food. In the meantime. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>new place that had just opened near by that he

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<v Speaker 1>liked to go, and so it was a short time

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<v Speaker 1>later the Fred was sat in his car eating McDonald's,

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<v Speaker 1>gazing out wistfully at the sea he was soon to cross.

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<v Speaker 1>When he finally made it back to the airport. With

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<v Speaker 1>time running out and Ronda yet to arrive, Fred had

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<v Speaker 1>little choice but to set off alone. After a further

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<v Speaker 1>round of checks, he jumped into the Cessna v D

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<v Speaker 1>s J taxied the small plane to the edge of

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<v Speaker 1>the runway before taking off into the early evening sky.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in West Preston, Ronda had returned home and was

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<v Speaker 1>getting herself ready for a night out with Fred, excited

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<v Speaker 1>to hear all about his trip to king Ireland, but

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<v Speaker 1>by the time it had got to eight pm, Ronda

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<v Speaker 1>was growing concerned that there had been no word from Fred.

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<v Speaker 1>Ronda never made it to the dance, but instead spent

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<v Speaker 1>the night sat all made up on her bed, staring

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<v Speaker 1>out her window at the street below for any sign

0:18:55.920 --> 0:19:00.760
<v Speaker 1>of her fiance. At some point she must have fallen asleep,

0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:03.399
<v Speaker 1>as she found herself being woken by the sound of

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<v Speaker 1>the ABC news drifting in from her father's bedroom. She

0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:10.719
<v Speaker 1>couldn't quite make out all of it, only that an

0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:15.120
<v Speaker 1>unnamed pilot had gone missing over the bas Strait. Ronda's

0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:19.480
<v Speaker 1>heart sunk deep into her chest. After taking an age

0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:23.000
<v Speaker 1>to get through to Murrabin Airport. When they eventually picked up,

0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:28.679
<v Speaker 1>Ronda received the devastating news the missing pilot was Fred.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the next few days, wave after wave of search

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<v Speaker 1>and rescue teams were dispatched unsuccessfully in the hunt for

0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:42.240
<v Speaker 1>Fred's missing plane. For Ronda and Fred's family, their grief

0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:47.800
<v Speaker 1>would have been unimaginable for the authorities, who were plainly

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<v Speaker 1>only two likelihoods. One that Fred had got into some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of difficulty, perhaps becoming disorientated over the water, leading

0:19:56.320 --> 0:20:01.679
<v Speaker 1>to a catastrophic pilot error, or he had deliberately flown

0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:07.200
<v Speaker 1>his plane into the sea. Since Fred had been taking

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<v Speaker 1>a routine path over a manageable stretch of water, as

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<v Speaker 1>noted in the cause analysis report, it is most probable

0:20:14.280 --> 0:20:17.320
<v Speaker 1>that the wreckage would have been sighted, but the plane

0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:23.080
<v Speaker 1>had disappeared without a trace. And then something extraordinary came

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<v Speaker 1>to light. On Wednesday, the twenty fifth of October, Fred's father, Guido,

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<v Speaker 1>was invited to listen to the final recording of Fred's

0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:36.960
<v Speaker 1>air traffic control communication to formally identify the pilot. As

0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:40.399
<v Speaker 1>soon as the recording crackled to life, Guido's heart broke

0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:43.080
<v Speaker 1>for the thousandth time as the voice of his son

0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:46.720
<v Speaker 1>came out at the speaker. But what everybody in the

0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:57.680
<v Speaker 1>room heard next chilled them all to the bone. At

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen hundred hours, Fred reported arriving successfully over Cape Otway

0:21:02.920 --> 0:21:08.080
<v Speaker 1>before heading south over the open water. The next communication

0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:13.119
<v Speaker 1>was received at nineteen hundred and six hours, Melbourne. This

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<v Speaker 1>is Delta Sierra Juliet. Is there any known traffic below

0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:23.480
<v Speaker 1>five thousand? Delta Sierra Juliet No known traffic. It seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be a large aircraft below five thousand. What type

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<v Speaker 1>of aircraft is it? I cannot affirm. It has four

0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:35.480
<v Speaker 1>bright it seems to me like landing lights. Melbourne, this

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<v Speaker 1>is Delta Sierra Juliet. The aircraft has just passed over

0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:42.760
<v Speaker 1>me at least a thousand feet above Roger and it

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<v Speaker 1>is a large aircraft. Confirm unknown due to the speed

0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:49.560
<v Speaker 1>it's traveling. Is there any air Force aircraft in the

0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:57.000
<v Speaker 1>vicinity Delta Sierra Juliet. No known aircraft in the vicinity, Melbourne.

0:21:57.000 --> 0:22:00.399
<v Speaker 1>It's approaching now from due east towards me. Seems to

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<v Speaker 1>me that he's playing some sort of game. He's flying

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<v Speaker 1>over me two three times at a time at speeds

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<v Speaker 1>I could not identify Delta Sierra Juliet. And confirm you

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<v Speaker 1>cannot identify the aircraft affirmative. It's not an aircraft. It's

0:22:15.760 --> 0:22:19.359
<v Speaker 1>a long shape. I cannot identify more than that. It

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<v Speaker 1>has such speed. What I'm doing right now is orbiting,

0:22:23.320 --> 0:22:25.119
<v Speaker 1>and the thing is just orbiting on top of me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got a green light and a sort of metallic

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<v Speaker 1>like it's all shiny on the outside. It's just vanished.

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<v Speaker 1>Delta Sierra Juliet confirmed that the aircraft has vanished. Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's now approaching from the southwest. Roger, what are your intentions?

0:22:45.520 --> 0:22:49.720
<v Speaker 1>My intentions are to go to King Island, Melbourne. That

0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:52.920
<v Speaker 1>strange aircraft is hovering on top of me. Again, it's

0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:57.000
<v Speaker 1>hovering and it's not an aircraft, and then there is nothing.

0:22:58.160 --> 0:23:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Melbourne attempts communication again, but after seventeen seconds of dead

0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:07.439
<v Speaker 1>air at nineteen hundred and twelve hours, Fred's radio falls silent.

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<v Speaker 1>Within days, Fred's gripping final transmission made its way to

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<v Speaker 1>the press. Before long, the papers were awash with speculation

0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:31.879
<v Speaker 1>concerning Fred's fatal encounter with the UFO, and then something

0:23:31.960 --> 0:23:38.040
<v Speaker 1>else emerged. Six weeks previously, Sergeant Jack Woodward of Curry

0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:41.919
<v Speaker 1>Police on King Island had received a call concerning strange

0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:44.520
<v Speaker 1>lights that had appeared off the north of the Island.

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<v Speaker 1>A nurse at King Island Hospital had seen them too,

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<v Speaker 1>with two other witnesses going as far as to write

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<v Speaker 1>into the King Island News on September the twentieth. We

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<v Speaker 1>are writing to your paper, they said, to see if

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<v Speaker 1>anyone other than ourselves had seen any sightings of strange

0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:08.439
<v Speaker 1>moving lights in the sky. The department at Transport were

0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:11.679
<v Speaker 1>quick to quash the rumors, with one spokesman suggesting that

0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:14.439
<v Speaker 1>if Fred's plane had inverted, he would have seen the

0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:18.240
<v Speaker 1>light from Cape Otway and King Island houses reflected on

0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:21.639
<v Speaker 1>cloud cover above him. But not only were there no

0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:24.680
<v Speaker 1>clouds in the sky that night, as the spokesman was

0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:28.560
<v Speaker 1>forced to admit, the conditions were near perfect and would

0:24:28.600 --> 0:24:34.959
<v Speaker 1>have afforded Fred almost unlimited vision. Reports from Fred's friends

0:24:34.960 --> 0:24:40.080
<v Speaker 1>and acquaintances began to emerge. They revealed a sober, studious

0:24:40.119 --> 0:24:43.840
<v Speaker 1>and diligent flight student with the steely determination to succeed,

0:24:44.720 --> 0:24:47.800
<v Speaker 1>with one friend noting that Fred was never prone to panic,

0:24:48.400 --> 0:24:51.240
<v Speaker 1>as Ronda had also attested during her many hours of

0:24:51.280 --> 0:24:56.040
<v Speaker 1>flying with him. Fred's instructors, Warren Dunlop and Martin Dalton

0:24:56.440 --> 0:25:00.399
<v Speaker 1>described him as sincere and sensible, a little quiet, first,

0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:08.240
<v Speaker 1>but quick to open up once you got to know him.

0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:13.239
<v Speaker 1>For Alberta and Guido, the evidence spoke for itself, and

0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:15.760
<v Speaker 1>with the papers more than happy to exploit their grief

0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:19.600
<v Speaker 1>for the cosmic speculation, there was little room for anything else.

0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:24.520
<v Speaker 1>As for sixteen year old Ronda, she had barely had

0:25:24.520 --> 0:25:27.840
<v Speaker 1>time to grieve, such was the incessant hounding of the press.

0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:31.800
<v Speaker 1>At one point she even fled to a motel in

0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:35.159
<v Speaker 1>Cape Otway, only to find a crowd of journalists waiting

0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:39.000
<v Speaker 1>for her in the foyer. And the truth was there

0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:43.240
<v Speaker 1>really was nothing more that she could tell them. After

0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:47.840
<v Speaker 1>two weeks, the search for Fred was called off. However,

0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:50.919
<v Speaker 1>although they may not have found the wreckage, in the

0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:54.840
<v Speaker 1>subsequent widening of the investigation, something new was about to

0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:58.240
<v Speaker 1>come to light. It seemed that Fred had not been

0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:04.000
<v Speaker 1>entirely honest with his parents or Ronder. On November first,

0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:08.520
<v Speaker 1>the investigative team received a letter from Captain Edwin Robert Barnes,

0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:13.639
<v Speaker 1>a former tutor of Fred's in nineteen seventy six. Fred

0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 1>had failed in his attempt to join the Royal Australian

0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Air Force. It was not entirely unexpected, since not only

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:23.800
<v Speaker 1>had Fred left school, at sixteen, but his academic record

0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:27.679
<v Speaker 1>had been poor. But Fred would not be deterred, and

0:26:27.760 --> 0:26:30.600
<v Speaker 1>he resolved that whatever he lacked in intellect, he would

0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:35.159
<v Speaker 1>work ferociously hard to make up for in effort. Although

0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:37.919
<v Speaker 1>he would never realize his dream of making the Air Force,

0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:42.640
<v Speaker 1>he could still make it as a commercial airline pilot. Sadly,

0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:46.560
<v Speaker 1>this ambition, too, hit a snag when in nineteen seventy seven,

0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:50.119
<v Speaker 1>Fred sat for and failed all five of his commercial

0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:54.320
<v Speaker 1>pilot's license theory exams. It was at this point that

0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:59.080
<v Speaker 1>an instructor, impressed by Fred's determination, recommended that Captain Barnes

0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 1>helped tutor him through his resets. In Barnes's letter, he

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:08.520
<v Speaker 1>speaks with great warmth and affection about the boy who,

0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:11.760
<v Speaker 1>having not made it to the Air Force, nonetheless attended

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Squadron Headquarters in a civilian capacity, working without pay or allowances,

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 1>until accepted into Squadron staff as an airman, a boy who,

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:26.200
<v Speaker 1>despite failing his exams, was a battler with the determination

0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:29.960
<v Speaker 1>and stability to achieve his goal of becoming a commercial

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:35.800
<v Speaker 1>airline pilot. Fred eventually resat his exams in July of

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:39.880
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy eight and Barnes was overjoyed when Fred called

0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:42.440
<v Speaker 1>him up in mid September to tell him with great

0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:48.000
<v Speaker 1>excitement that he had finally passed. Only it was a lie,

0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:50.840
<v Speaker 1>a lie that Fred had been hiding from not only

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:56.280
<v Speaker 1>his beloved tutor, but also his family and Ronda. Suddenly

0:27:56.520 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 1>some of the more confusing aspects of Fred's final days

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:03.400
<v Speaker 1>had taken on a different shape. Why he had proposed

0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:06.680
<v Speaker 1>to Ronda on Friday the thirteenth, a week before the

0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:11.960
<v Speaker 1>day they regularly celebrated as a monthly anniversary. Why if

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:14.680
<v Speaker 1>he was intending to land at King Ireland, he hadn't

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:18.199
<v Speaker 1>requested landing lights to be turned on. Or why he

0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:20.720
<v Speaker 1>told Ronda that he'd be back to take her out,

0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:23.959
<v Speaker 1>but told his father that he wouldn't return till at

0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 1>least ten pm. Is it possible that, rather than having

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:32.720
<v Speaker 1>been plucked from the sky by an unknown entity, Fred had,

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:36.040
<v Speaker 1>in a sense already been taken away some time ago

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 1>by something else equally intangible. In the end, had this

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 1>young man whose only dream was to prove to the

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:46.400
<v Speaker 1>world that he had what it took to be a

0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:50.720
<v Speaker 1>pilot finally been broken by the crushing realization that, no

0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 1>matter how hard he tried, his head would never match

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:58.000
<v Speaker 1>up to his heart. A young man too pained to

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<v Speaker 1>reveal the truth to his family and Ronda, to whom

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:10.320
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