WEBVTT - Ep. 41: Bear Grease [Render] - Burning Vehicles, Jack Hammer Day, and More Secrets 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:17.080 Yeah. My name is Clay Nukeleman. This is a production 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:20.680 of the Bear Grease podcast called The Bear Grease Render, 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:25.200 where we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:30.040 scenes of the actual bear Grease podcast, presented by f 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:35.320 HF Gear, American made purpose built hunting and fishing gear 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:43.800 that's designed to be as rugged as the places we explore. 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:47.920 Gary's did that beards filling out? Man? Looking good? It's 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:51.760 tight up against his face. Looks like he's groomed. Yeah, 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:57.240 groomed a little bit excellent a pull it up just yeah, 0:00:57.320 --> 0:00:59.920 but like that. The bottom of Rusty is Beard is 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:08.160 actually a wildlife management area. I've only known here for 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:10.480 about five minutes, but I feel like I can ascertain 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:17.160 that immediately. That's a man. Well, great to see everybody. 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:20.000 This Spine afternoon. This this is this is the best, 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:22.520 one of the nicest afternoons we've had in a while. 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:26.240 Doors open, doors open. Yeah, here at the Global Headquarters. 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:30.280 Hey to my left, Daniel Rupe. Dr Dan Rupe, good 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:32.360 to see you. Am happy to be here. We're gonna 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:36.800 talk about this podcast, the Secret White Tail Secrets podcast, 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:39.400 and I have I have two secret guests here that 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:41.840 I'm gonna wait until you're gonna tell you who they are. 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:45.640 We're gonna disguise their We're gonna disguise their voices the 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:51.600 entire time. I've got a story. I've got a story, 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:57.040 but uh no, so we've got to to two secret guests. 0:01:57.080 --> 0:02:00.280 I would also like to take just a second and end. 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:03.000 For anybody who is listening to this for the first 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:06.480 time and don't understand the format of Beargrease, I want 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:10.520 to fill you in. Okay, The Bargrease podcast is a 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:16.160 documentary style podcast where we have multiple guests, we tell 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:20.520 we tell stories. That's highly produced. We produced that every 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:24.120 two weeks. Every other week in the off week, we 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:28.360 have a Bargrease surrender and render is a metaphor. Okay. 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:31.520 Metaphor is when you use a word that is not 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:37.160 actually literally used, but metaphorically used. That word is a 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:40.720 type in a shadow of the real word. So when 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:44.400 you render bear fat, it turns into bear grease, and 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:47.400 it's a process of heating that melts it down. And 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:51.400 so in essence, we're taking the Bargrease documentary style podcast, 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:56.799 we're rendering it down metaphoric lighting them on fire. Yes, 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:01.280 and then so the bargrease. Render is where all we 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:04.360 all sit down and talk about the big podcast. So 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:06.400 that's what this is. And it's okay to make fun 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:09.360 of you in the process, right, Yes, okay, that's part. 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:13.079 So if the adjective for the podcast is highly produced, 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:20.720 what would the adjective for the render be? So skipping 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:23.880 over our secret guests, which will come back to Josh Pillmaker. 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:27.120 Great to see you, Thank you very much, glad to 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:29.480 be here. Yeah, I've been doing a little fly fishing. 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:32.640 I've been fly fishing a lot, even in the We 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:35.360 had ten inches of snoddle last week and I went 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:39.120 out and it and then I went out last I 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:43.200 went out on Saturday, I guess, and it was the 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:46.200 temperature was about eighteen degrees but man, that windshill was 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:52.080 something and my real was literally frozen. Wouldn't turn my line. 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:55.280 I'd have to drip dip my my broad in the 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:58.720 water every few minutes because my guides would feel full, solid, 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:01.640 full of ice. And but I caught him. It's a 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:04.040 nice fish, did you. Yeah. I went with my friend 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:07.320 Keith Reeves. You know Keith Reeves. Yes, yeah, that's the 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:10.760 first time I've met him, and he actually well I'll 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.000 tell you what he but he messaged me on Instagram 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:15.240 once we get started talking about the podcast because it's 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:18.320 he wanted to know I wanted to know. Yeah, he 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:21.400 wanted to know where I was fishing, and he said, 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:24.560 are you willing to share? And I had to sit 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:26.320 there and think for a little bit. I'm I willing 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:29.240 to share my He's asked me he's seen a picture 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:33.400 of me deer hunting by a creek in Arkansas, and 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:37.280 he asked me where the creek was. He wanted to 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:46.640 fish in the creek. Good guy, great fancy. Josh has 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:52.480 left back from wherever he's been like a blond panther himself. 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:56.119 Gary nucle Yeah, good to be here. Hey, Gary Neuklem, Hey, 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:59.320 good to see you. Thank you. Hey. This dude has 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:03.440 been all the way to California on the campaign trail. 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:07.040 There you go, there you do. Man, tell us about 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:08.680 a little bit about your trip to California. What were 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:12.560 you doing? Where'd you go? Well? Uh, there were four 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:17.719 couples and we all traveled by ourselves and we ended 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:22.240 up in the Saying Saying Dunes of southern California, Glamy's 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:29.559 the most famous best dunes in America supposedly. We stayed 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:32.720 there four days and then we went north about two 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:37.839 hours to uh moab No, to a King of the 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:45.200 Hammers in uh which is Yeah, it was everything, big jeeps, 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:48.640 little jeeps, motorcycles. Every day there's a race going on. 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:52.880 And we stayed there about five days, and uh, it 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:56.960 was just extremely wonderful and I couldn't believe it. My 0:05:57.040 --> 0:06:00.000 sweet little wife really enjoyed it, that's what I heard. 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:02.640 I mean, it's just crazy. She'd go, hey, no, let's 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:04.919 not leave you, and I want to see this guy flip. 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:07.440 Tell him, tell yeah, tell her about tell them about 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:13.640 the one place where those guys were flipping. A couple 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:16.440 of times. She got in the fetal position riding with me. 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:19.760 You gotta get your mind right. This is the safest 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.839 thing we've done in three days. You know, the interstate. 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:26.680 You're loving to die any second. I have seen a 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:30.120 photo of one of your side by sides consumed in 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:34.800 the ball of fire. Oh yeah, I wasn't in it, though, 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:38.760 I mean, I I just left it obviously lucky. I 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:41.599 was lucky to get out. But but anyway, you know, 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:44.799 there's uh several places that are just it's just crazy 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:46.880 to watch this race. What they do. They go through 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:50.400 the desert at a hundred hundred fifty, then they go 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:52.720 through the rocks at two and three miles an hour. 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:55.800 They go down big drop offs, up drop you know, 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:59.880 climb huge stuff and it takes quite a vehicle to 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:04.320 do all that. Yeah. So anyway, so my life as 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:07.880 a young man was filled with what I just thought 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:14.280 was normal. It turns out it wasn't. Uh in righting 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:17.720 in four wheelers side by side jeeps with this guy. Hey, 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:20.360 we're gonna come back to your story. Let me introduced 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:25.080 our secret guests. All right, directly across from did you 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:27.720 give out? I think the chair just give just break 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:30.920 Dan roots chair. Just finally we knew this was gonna 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:33.800 The moment has come. Go ahead and just now you 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:39.480 just got a stool care we go keep going, all right, 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:45.800 Most Shepherd, my good buddy mos Shepherd man the myth 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:52.360 also known as Moseley Shepherd. That okay, I didn't know. 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:57.680 I've got some explaining to do. Mo. Greet everybody. How's 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:00.600 everybody doing today? Glad to be here doing us doing 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:03.840 this render cast. Yeah, man, I've known Moe for a 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:07.120 long time. I don't know fifteen years. Maybe maybe not 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:09.520 that long. I meant what I said, Moe is one 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:12.000 of the best mountain deer hunters that I know, hunting 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:15.600 some rough, rough ground and just going out and doing it. 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:18.680 He's he's he knows what he's doing. Um, you don't 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:22.240 you keep secrets. You don't find Moe's house on the accident, 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:27.200 you better know where you're going. That's right, that's right. Um. 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:29.080 So I'm gonna introduce the other guests and then I'm 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:32.160 gonna tell why they have nicknames to his Laught, no 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:39.120 Stranger to the Barriers Render, Rusty Johnson, Rusty Curly Johnson. Yeah, 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:41.960 good to see you, man, Good to see you. Both 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:45.600 of you guys were my when when I decided I 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:48.560 was gonna do a podcast on secrets. I thought Daniel 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:51.000 Rupe because he's got a lot of secrets, and then 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:53.880 I thought you two because you are good at keeping secrets. 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:59.600 And Okay, here's what happened. Originally, the idea of this podcast, 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:03.400 I was gonna keep their identity seals. Did you notice 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:07.000 there was some in congruency and the names. Did you 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:11.520 notice that? Maybe? Did you? Do you even know what 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:20.280 we're talking about? This podcast is about a podcast I know, 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:24.160 I don't know what you're talking. You lost me in 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:30.000 the metaphor talk we're greasing something up. So originally I 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:32.280 was going to interview these two guys, and I was 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:35.240 going to hide their identity because it was gonna be 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:38.960 a joke, because as if they were telling secrets that 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:41.440 we're gonna get them in trouble and get them killed 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:45.480 or something. And so when we sent it to production 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:48.760 at Meat Eater, I was like, hey, let's disguise their 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:50.840 voices like they do on the movies, like when they're 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:53.760 interviewing a mobster who's wanting to leak some info but 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:57.920 not get in trouble. And so I built the podcast 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:01.400 like that, and I gave him hode names and his 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:05.200 name was Mos name was Moseley, and I just randomly 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:14.680 Mo and Curly, so so us Johnson. Rusty Johnson was 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:17.480 just Curly. And so I built all the voiceovers for 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:19.400 these podcasts. I don't know if you guys know this, 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:21.120 but there's actually quite a bit of work that goes 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:24.280 into these podcasts. And I built I built the I 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:31.600 thought your phone, who doesn't work? Uh? Me? No? We 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:33.840 we got a great production team at ME. Either does 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:36.480 a lot of it. I just thought that was their names. 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:41.760 Well okay, I never specifically said like, I just introduced 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:44.160 him as Rusty Johnson. And then what I what I 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:46.720 failed to do was when I so when I finally 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:49.080 listened to it, I didn't. We decided we did not 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:53.240 like the the disguised voices. So I was like, oh, 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:55.160 we just need to just come out with and say 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:57.560 their names. So I changed the voice over in two spots, 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:00.280 but I forgot to change the voice over and all 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:03.800 the other spots, so I was calling them mostly curly, 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:07.840 and so Rusty messages me that Wednesday came out and 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:12.040 he said, why is everybody calling me curly? It's like 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.920 an inside Joe Clay didn't tell you about it exactly. 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:19.320 Come into work and everybody's like, morning, Curly. I hadn't 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:23.040 listened to the podcast, and I'm like, what, Curly, have 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:28.400 you listened to the podcast yet? No? You might want to. Uh. 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:32.079 So that's how's beech Nut taken? Hold? Oh it's it's 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:36.640 doing pretty good, I say, beach Nut, Yeah, Spencer Dewhurst nicknames, 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:42.679 getting some traction, yeah, m hmm yeah, um no, so 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:45.600 we're gonna get We're gonna get back to you guys. 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:50.640 But I did promise the world that I was gonna 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:53.760 ask you. I need you to tell us about the 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:57.160 image that I put on Instagram about three weeks ago 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:00.360 of a side by side in the It was kind 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:04.640 of a pretty photo. It was like, uh, pretty disturbing. Yeah, 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:07.360 it was like kind of twilight e And there's about 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:13.120 a side by side just engulfed thirty foot tall flames. 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:15.400 Nothing ain't nothing left to that side by side. That's 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:20.960 what I said. It's a crime scene. He covered his tracks. Yeah. Yeah, 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:24.480 So I told people that I would have you tell 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:26.559 that story. What what the heck? Judy was over in 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:30.760 the corner in the fetal position. Uh, well, you know 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:34.199 it was real interesting to me in that my nephew 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:37.120 and I ride together a lot, and we'd like to 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:41.200 ride fast and we just enjoy getting together. And we 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:43.840 did that a lot. Well, I had a I had 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:48.040 a two, I had a sixteen model razor, and all 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:50.640 of a sudden it started coming out in publications that 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:54.960 these things were burning. So my sean period called me 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:59.680 and he goes, hey, Gary, those razors are burning, and 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:02.280 I it, you know, I read that, and I said, 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:05.559 but it's only when they get hot, and he said, 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:13.520 I watched my shawn as a rocket side, I watched 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:16.520 my temperature gage, and I don't let mine get hot. 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:21.360 So I'm fine. Smart. So I was going on about 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:26.240 a hundred and fifty mile trip. Actually, well I won't 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:28.640 tell you where I was going, but I went through 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:32.679 the we don't know how I looked at Rusty Bureau 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:35.960 Home grounds. I was hitting down there. So on the 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:39.960 way back, this was brand news. You were riding by yourself. Yeah, 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:44.320 by myself, And it's a turbot and unreal excited ride, 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:48.000 yeah real. And and so I I take my gas 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:50.680 cans instead of stacking them in there the way they were. 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:52.760 I got this great idea that I had a better 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:56.360 way of doing it. It wasn't a better way, So 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:59.840 I just drive this distance and on the way back, 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:03.000 take a few little jumps and runs and you know, 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:09.200 bouncing off stuff, filling that turbo. Well, about the third 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:13.320 time I got airborne. When I landed, those gas cans 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:19.120 turned over, and uh, you know, at the time, I 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:23.480 didn't see a lot of danger to me. But when 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:26.400 I look back and comments from people, they go, you know, 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:30.400 you were pretty lucky to get out of there, And uh, 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:32.880 so you know, if it had been a wreck, you 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:35.640 might get trapped. But anyway I got out. There was 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:38.320 no way what happened. I mean, you're just riding. You 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:44.200 feel we're looking in the back and I'm saying, I'm 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:47.200 running about forty miles an hour and there's flames, you know, 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.760 shooting up. So I of course slam on the brakes 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:52.840 and I looked for water. I looked for dart, look 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:55.480 for anything or nothing there. So I just backed off. 0:14:55.520 --> 0:15:00.200 I left U um real expensive pair of binocular and 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:05.600 regret that's the only thing you were Uh. I had 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:09.280 good insurance. So anyway, I just thought, man, I got 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:12.160 about six mile walk out of here. You could have 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:16.400 lit a signal fire. I think he did. I think 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:20.560 he did. It didn't work. I walked to the highest 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:25.880 heel I could find and called, uh, James Lawrence, and 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:29.840 he came and got me. Yeah. So, and he probably 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:31.920 just sniffed you out. He knew exactly where he were 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:35.119 by the cell phones. You said, I felt the disturbance 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:38.040 in the foresactly. I knew there was a fire. You 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:40.560 dial his number, but you could hear his phone ringing. 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:46.560 He stepped out from behind. Yeah, I saw that guming Gary. 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:49.880 The you know, the aluminum was melted, the engine, I mean, 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:52.520 everything was just it was just it was nothing. The 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:58.320 steel was remaining, that's about it. Holy cow, My Sharoskis 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:02.160 were melted. And I agree with what some of the 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:04.680 people commented, and I read some of the comments. Because 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:07.160 you got that hot machine, you got all that stuff, 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:09.120 and you got gas cans in there that turned over. Now, 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:12.120 it's wonder that thing didn't blow and just yeah, I know, 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:14.920 you know, that could have been real danger. But but 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:17.400 they had a hose that was coming loose when it 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:20.960 got hot, and it was dripping fuel on the turbo 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:24.960 and that was causing to burn up. But mine was 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:28.680 because somebody set gas cans in the wrong place. That's right. 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:33.280 It sounds like a very safe activity when you describe 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:36.600 it all, I feel like, yeah, you trust me driving 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:43.040 around with a bomb? Uh? Well, anybody else here ever 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:45.960 had a machine catch on fire. I did see it. 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:49.320 I did see in Mina, Arkansas. I pulled up to 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:52.360 the stoplight right there by the by the what's the 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:54.680 train there downtown? What's that? I can't remember what that 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:58.360 gas station is right there, but I looked over and 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:02.160 there's an old man, and I see smoke coming from 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:05.840 under his hood, and within two seconds there were flames 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:08.159 rolling out, and he's at the gas pump and I 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:11.320 see him get back in the car and try to 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:14.800 start it so he could drive it off. And he's 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:17.679 in the car and somebody, somebody comes running out of 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:21.280 the gas station, grabs him out of the car and 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:23.600 reaches in and puts it in neutral, and they push 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:27.640 it away from the from the gas pumps, and every yeah, 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:33.480 trying to get One time I had a jeep, jeep Cherokee. 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:38.119 Uh it was The year was probably two thousand five, 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:41.640 two thousand six, red was it read? It was kind 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:44.560 of burgundy. And one day I was driving to the 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:48.880 U of Bay and I see I'm in Fayettabe, Arkansas, 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:52.879 driving down College and I see smoke start to come 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:56.120 out from underneath the hood, and I just go, oh, man, 0:17:56.280 --> 0:18:00.080 that's not good. And I was within about half of 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:03.560 from an Old Riley's and kind of downhill, and so 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:08.600 I just thought I'm gonna make it, and so I 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:11.640 just made it into and the car was drying, the 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:15.159 jeep was driving fine. I pulled into Old Riley's and 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:17.280 there's more smoke coming out in front of the hood 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:20.840 and I and I pop it open the hood and 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:23.879 there is a pack rat nest on top of the 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:26.920 hood that is in flames. Oh my gosh. I mean 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:28.720 just like when I opened the hood, it was like, yeah, 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:32.840 that's what I needed oxygen. And so it just and 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:37.000 uh and so I run into the old Riley's and 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:39.760 there's like people in line, you know, and everybody's just 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:44.040 standing there being quiet, like waiting, and I go, hey, uh, 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:47.240 my jeeps on fire in the parking lot. And I 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:50.760 promise you. The guy behind the counter, I mean, it 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:54.600 was like he could have cared less. He was just 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:56.600 like he just kind of people won't be able to 0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:59.440 see what I'm doing. I'm acting like I'm a sixty 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:03.040 year old man and that doesn't care. And he was 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:06.200 just like what And I was like, my my jeep 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:09.359 is on fire. Do you have a fire extinguisher, water 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:13.879 or anything? And he was just like, well, there's a 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:18.639 bathroom over there, there's a there's a toilet, there's a picture, 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:22.119 there's a picture over there. And I just run behind 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:25.120 the counter, grabbed this picture, run back to the bathroom 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:30.479 and put it under the sink and get the picture. 0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:35.080 Only about half outside, getting Gary nucom and I run 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:39.200 back outside and just doused the jeep. And it's luckily 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:42.520 it never fully caught on fire. It just it just 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:45.800 kind of burned all the hoses on the top. And 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:49.280 but that that pact burned up. You've had some bad 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:52.560 luck with pac will destroy your life. Yeah, I had one. 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:54.920 I had one vehicle to burn upon me and seventy 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:58.800 nine I had told Volkswagen I bought the year I 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:01.840 graduated out of school, and this was year after that, 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:03.639 and I'd cut it down, made a ball haull bug 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:05.800 out of it. To make a long story short, I 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:07.560 was out in the mountains out there in the and 0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:10.080 the and the I was art Nashta Forest. It's riding 0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:12.919 smoke trails, and I guess I had accumulated leaves up 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:14.879 around the engine on the back of that old volswagon. 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:17.359 Didn't know what they got up around the manifold. And 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:20.400 I was driving down the main road up there. I'd 0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:22.600 come out of the woods kind of like Gary said, well, 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:24.520 I go. I was driving Long's about dusky dark, and 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:29.680 I could just see illumination inside the darkswagon ball haul bug, 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:32.520 and I turned out looking the whole back console behind 0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:35.600 the back seat was on fire and I slid it 0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:37.600 off the road, run over and went to getting dirt 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:39.080 out of the ditch. I finally got put out, but 0:20:39.160 --> 0:20:41.399 it melted the motor and everything. It was trash after that. 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:46.840 Three out of six of us here have had vehicles burned, 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:49.760 my mind being the least. Have you ever had anything 0:20:49.800 --> 0:20:53.840 burn Rusty Johnson never had one burned down. Like I said, 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:55.520 I got the fire put out, but it done trash 0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:58.840 that it burned all the wire and fixing it. I'm 0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:03.360 not talking. This is a podcast on secrets. Is Burgundy 0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:10.600 not red? I mean no, no, no, like dark purple 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:14.840 that's red. Burgundy is Burgundy. That's why they call it Burgundy. 0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:17.600 One more story that's relevant to the time. Okay, and 0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:20.120 then we're gonna actually get in there and start talking 0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:22.800 about this podcast because I've got a few things I 0:21:22.880 --> 0:21:27.800 need to draw out of Rusty mow. Yeah. Um, so 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:31.480 today is February fourteenth, It's Valentine's Day. We're recording this 0:21:31.600 --> 0:21:37.560 on Valentine's Day. This will come as um February. Does 0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:45.160 anybody know what February is? Yesterday, the day before Valentine's Day, Dad, 0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:49.800 Dad will know you wouldn't know this, but in my house, 0:21:50.200 --> 0:21:54.879 February is Jackhammer Day, jack Hammered Day. When I was 0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:58.399 do you remember when I was a junior in high school. 0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:02.400 When I was a junior in high school, one day 0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:06.520 I went and I had baited some hogs jackhammer like 0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:10.920 the Broadhead. Well just wait, four years ago? Was twenty 0:22:10.960 --> 0:22:15.879 four years ago? Was four junior year. It was my 0:22:16.000 --> 0:22:19.520 first junior year. Aren't you forty I'm forty two. Okay, 0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:22.000 Well then it was twenty six years ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:27.280 so so hey, that was a compliment. I thought he 0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:30.120 was digging on me. That was a compliment. Oh thanks, mother, 0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:33.240 that was nice. Um. I was a junior in high 0:22:33.240 --> 0:22:36.520 school and I had I had baited some hogs down 0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:39.040 on some some land. I'm not gonna tell you where 0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:42.960 it was. And uh, what I had done was I 0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:48.600 had dug a hole in the ground about probably eighteen 0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:52.600 to twenty inches deep and about probably twenty inches wide. 0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:56.240 So envisioned a circle hole in the ground. The the 0:22:56.359 --> 0:23:00.280 hole was near a creek, and the creek was in 0:23:00.359 --> 0:23:05.680 a big flat hardwood bottom, and there was a the 0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:07.879 ground came up out of the creek and was flat 0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:11.320 for about twenty yards and then had like a ten 0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:15.119 to twelve foot steep rise and then it flattened out again, 0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:18.080 so it was like a secondary floodplain if that makes 0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:22.680 Does that make sense, You'll see this like a steep bank. Well, 0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:28.040 what I did was I put that hole about fifteen 0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:33.000 yards from the rim of the higher bank so that 0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:37.040 I could walk up and peek over the bank down 0:23:37.280 --> 0:23:41.280 to the creek to this hole in the ground. Okay, 0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:45.000 that's exactly right. So I filled that hole with corn. 0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:48.439 And we didn't have trail cameras or anything back then. 0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:51.240 I mean just nobody was using trail cameras. And I 0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:56.240 even raked out the leaves about fifty yards going up 0:23:56.400 --> 0:23:59.520 to where you look over the edge, so that I 0:23:59.560 --> 0:24:02.960 could walk talk without making any noise. And I set 0:24:03.040 --> 0:24:06.440 the trap and just waited. You know, I can't remember 0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:08.600 if I waited four or five days or how I 0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:10.720 knew that there were hogs in there. I may have 0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:13.760 just been guessing that they would be there. And this 0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:17.080 is the kind of dad Gary Newcom was. The night 0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:19.840 before I just had a inkling that it was the 0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:22.400 day to go, and I said, Hey, I'm not gonna 0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:24.560 go to school tomorrow. I'm gonna go hunt those hogs. 0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:30.280 Do you remember that? Okay? I did, I really did. I. 0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:32.119 I just told him. I was like, I'm going to 0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:35.399 I'm going to hunt hogs and uh, because I remember 0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:38.080 the next day being in the classes that I missed. 0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:41.200 Uh for some reason, I vividly remember the look on 0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:43.399 one of my teacher's faces. He wasn't angry. I just 0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:47.560 remember it. So I go down there and get there 0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:51.240 just after daylight, and it just worked like clockwork. I 0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:56.320 walked in those the leaf where I scratched the leaves 0:24:56.400 --> 0:25:01.000