WEBVTT - What’s Up Pitches! (w/ Tim Davis) 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:05.240 And that's what you really missed with Jenna and Kevin 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:15.400 and I heart Radio podcast. Welcome. I've put a little 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:17.720 Tea and Stutterer in there for you. Welcome to and 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:20.400 that's what you really missed. I'm Jenna, I'm Kevin, and 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:27.160 today we have a renaissance man who um enlightened us 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:33.000 with this conversation because there's so much we didn't know. Um. 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:36.120 He is a master at what he does. He is 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:40.959 absolutely incredibly talented and so so nice and kind and 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:42.440 we were so lucky to get to work with him 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:45.480 for seven years, so many years. And he's also got 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:49.960 the wildest resume pre end postally from like the Super Bowl, 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:53.640 mool On Rouge, what else did he do? Everything? Anything 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:56.680 they're singing in he's either singing on it or arranging 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:01.480 the vocals are both. He's it's jarring. It's the one 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:06.760 and only Tim Davis. Um. We find out so much 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:11.840 stuff that we did not know. Um. He was with 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:16.120 us um from the beginning and he you know, like 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:18.760 the main job that you would probably tag him for 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:20.880 is the lyric guy, which he sounds like he hated 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:23.480 that just that because of the amount that he was 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:26.640 actually doing. And I honestly, don't think they would have 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:30.959 been what it was without him, just between like the 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:36.840 background vocals, his the arrangements, his vocals, and his ability 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:40.840 to manage us. I mean Tim, Like if you go 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:44.800 to any Disney theme park and watch they're like big 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:47.080 specials at night with all the lights and everything around 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:50.960 the castle. Tim is either singing it or arranged it. 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:55.880 He has his voice and fingers and everything that has 0:01:55.920 --> 0:02:01.120 anything to do with incredible singing. Yeah. He Everyone calls 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:04.480 on him because he is truly the best. So please 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:09.280 enjoy our conversation with the one and only Tim Davis. Hi, Jim, 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:11.440 it's great to see you. Guys. It's so good to 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:15.359 see you. We are excited to have you and share 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:19.120 with the people what it is Tim Davis Um did 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:21.320 on the show. I feel like a lot of people 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:26.560 UM don't know about the young sung hero, UM, behind 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:33.600 the scenes hero, the background vocal lyric master, color coding star. 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:41.919 We'll explain what that means along the way. Tim was 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:48.200 there with us every musical number, UM and then from 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:50.880 the beginning and then behind the scenes you were also 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:54.680 off with our incredible back you know, background vocal singers 0:02:55.160 --> 0:03:00.320 doing all the arrangements and everything from the for the vocals. Um, 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:02.799 that's like the summary. Can you kind of share from 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:05.280 your point of view, like what it is that you 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:10.640 did spending your time only? Yeah. It started out Adam 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:16.240 Anders is the music producer, and he called me and said, hey, UM, 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:20.760 I need a vocal arranger. Um, you want to do 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:24.639 this thing? And I said okay, And so we went 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:29.880 in and we the first song was Rehab that we did, 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:35.240 and I remember there was another Um, there was someone 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:37.720 else who was who was doing it before Adam got 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:41.920 involved and before I got involved. And uh, they had 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:48.640 done probably six versions of Rehab and right hated each one. Yeah. 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:53.960 And so Adam called in and was like they had 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:57.040 a meeting with Brian Murphy and he said, if we 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:02.000 nailed this in one shot, then we got whatever. This 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:09.200 is the series. The pilots, right, no pressure. Yeah. So um, 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:11.280 Adams like, who do you know? Like this has to 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:14.080 be high school students, it can't be like it needs 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:21.640 to be edgy. And so I called probably twenty thirty 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:25.520 singers and we came in to the studio and we 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:27.840 just shot people out one by one. They would get 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:30.599 in front of the mic and solo and we begin 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:33.039 to booth and look at each other like no or 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:35.320 yes or maybe or whatever. And we ended up with 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:38.640 eight singers that night, um and Adam and I were 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:44.479 both one of the singers, and we rehab We finished 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:48.440 at three am. We mixed till five am. We sent 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:51.440 the thing over and Ryan loved it and it was done. 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:55.839 So you were bringing in like sort of auditioning the 0:04:55.920 --> 0:05:00.440 singers and recording and doing all of it all within 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:05.920 the same day and night. Yeah, because you know how 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:07.640 it is. You know how it is, and like how 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:13.440 Ryan's like I needed by six am. But I also 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:15.359 in the beginning too, it felt like there was just 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:17.440 more time for these things because everyone was sort of 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:21.200 figuring it out. But that was like that from this 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:26.280 very beginning for you from the jump. Yeah, oh my gosh, 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:30.760 Well it worked out, because that is incredible. Yeah, it 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:35.120 worked out. So we we did those, um, the support 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:39.040 vocals for you guys, and then we started doing guide 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:41.520 vocals for you as actors and so that you could 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:43.880 quickly listen in the van right over to the studios 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:50.120 minutes or less. And then just and um, it was exciting. Man. 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:55.640 We did eight hundred songs in six years. And all 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:59.200 of them like master quality, you know, like full records 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:12.440 in eight Did you have the same background singers the 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:15.840 entire time? I'm sure, like if you rotated out, but like, 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:21.000 what did you have the same people I had? You know, 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:25.560 our demo singers were pretty much the same people change 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:29.520 mind changed throughout the trying to keep we did try 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:32.960 to keep everyone for the guide vocals the same for 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:36.560 you guys. So like I remember Kevin, you had Drew, 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:40.560 a guy named Drew. I had had Chris Man, then 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:44.880 I had Drew, and then I ended up having Luke. 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:48.839 I had Storm for one of them for the Michael 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:51.440 stuff I had, and I was just and it was 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:54.760 so fun because I didn't actually know these people. And 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:56.800 then you'd go and you'd get these guide vocals that 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:59.120 Tim and Adam and all these people had set up, 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:04.600 and it just felt like such a challenge where there's 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:06.560 the acting and all that and the performances and all 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:08.640 that that it's a challenge. And then you go in 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:14.920 and hear these people where are so much better than us. 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:19.680 They are incredible, I mean just unbelievable. And so then 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:22.880 you'd get these demos like well, it's aspirational, it's not 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:28.520 necessarily realistic unless you're Amber. And I remember remember being like, 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:32.920 I'm not gonna do that. I was like, well, yeah, 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:35.000 you can do that. And I remember getting these vocals 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:40.040 and like, for example, Luke and I would I didn't know, Mike, 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:43.480 who is this Luke? This is so infuriating because he 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:46.400 is so good, And we started doing all these runs 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:49.360 and I'd be in the booth just sweating and saying 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:52.240 every curse word I knew because I can't get this. 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:54.680 But it made me a better singer. I think you 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.680 guys made all of us so much better because we 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:00.360 had to work up to the expectations that you were 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:03.480 putting before us and these demos, because we had a 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:05.480 certain amount of time, like you said, like thirty minutes 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:08.000 to record a full song, and we weren't going to 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:12.320 redo the arrangement because we couldn't sure. We would simplify 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:14.360 it a lot of the time, but we weren't necessarily 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:16.800 going to change the whole thing because we were not 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:21.080 capable of getting it. Yeah. I mean, and who who 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:26.440 is yours? Do you remember? Jenna Change? Remember Emily did 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:30.200 some of yours? Yes? And then it was somebody who 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:34.160 I think Missy May have done. It was Missy. That's right. 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:37.319 It was Missy. Yeah, that's right, and I never I 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:40.960 don't think you ever met Missy. That's the craziest thing. 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:44.439 We would hear these demos, we'd know, these like phantom voices, 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:47.600 which we would be like, I can't do that, great job, um, 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:51.760 you sound great, um. And then and then we have 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:55.520 all these amazing um you know, like support singers, background 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:57.920 vocal singers who did all the backgrounds on all of 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:00.920 these massive songs that you were a part of. That 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.679 we like to take credit for that we were singing, 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:06.640 but also on set, you were there making sure that 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:10.360 all of our voices matched up to the recording that 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:14.079 we were recording, to the pre record that we were recording. Also, 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:17.800 you guys, because you weren't in look well, I think 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:20.440 what many people don't understand is and what people are 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:24.400 surprised about is you guys did not have the time 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:28.640 to record all those background vocal parts and the groove 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:34.079 vocals insanity. So we had to have those supporting you guys. 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:37.120 And sometimes you do like a pass over over one 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:40.320 pass over the thing. But mainly it was these yeah, 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:44.600 in the very beginning and sort of abandoned it. It 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:46.240 took a lot of time, right, We spent a lot 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:48.360 of time in the studio. Of course we're not as 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:53.520 those professionals. And yeah, North should you be because you're 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:59.600 an actor an actor singer? Uh yeah, So, um, I'll 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:02.520 give you a snapshot of my day. Yeah, that's what's 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:06.000 gonna ask. I wanted to know because you have all 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:08.200 the jobs you had to do and you were doing 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:12.000 it every day, So what what did that look like? Um? 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:16.079 I would get up and go straight to my dropbox 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:18.760 at six am. All of the tracks by the way, 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:22.080 all the instrumental tracks were being done overseas so that 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:27.640 we could have this four machine rolling. The tracks would 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:31.360 get put in my dropbox at like in the while 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:33.760 I was sleeping for two hours, and I would get 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:39.240 up and record myself in my studio doing all the 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:43.480 parts of the of the group vocals. Um. It would 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:48.240 take me to like nine and then I would drive 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:54.840 up to calibasses, you ye, doing these arrangements and the 0:10:54.880 --> 0:11:01.080 harmonies that quickly still Yeah, but you know, it's like 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:05.200 that is kind of my wheelhouse. It's just what I've 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:08.360 always done. It's what I do well, and I and 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:11.520 I loved it. That was the other thing. So I 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:14.920 get to the studio in Calabasas around eleven, the other 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:17.480 singers would come. We do a guide vocal or two, 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:19.840 and then the other singers would come in a couple 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:23.839 more hours and we do um like four to five 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:27.880 maybe six hours of group vocals. It would be one song, 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:31.360 would that be multiple songs? One song? Typically one song 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:36.559 a day yow now tv TV recording sessions off camera 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:38.840 recording sessions are only supposed to be four hours. But 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:42.760 literally we would sometimes we would spend the night in 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:46.360 the studio and sing through like when we did what 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:48.760 is that by the dashboard light? Do you remember that? 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:55.600 So yeah, oh um Paradise by Yeah, that took us 0:11:55.880 --> 0:12:02.600 like twenty seven hours. Oh. I'd go in and everyone 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:04.960 you know East West and they have those rooms with 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:08.400 the lounges with the couches, would just be like on 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:10.360 the floor with their tongues hanging out and come in 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:13.160 and hey, hey, hey, I need I need you, I 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:16.560 need to I need to go in. Everyone else would 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:18.840 fall back to sleep. It was kind of I mean, 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:26.560 that was rare. But everyone's all single, no one like 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:29.720 that's part of the the audition. Are you single, Okay, good, 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:32.920 you have no life, you have no life, welcomed to hell. 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:38.360 Yeah soo. So we would do that. Other days it 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:40.839 was the same thing. It was usually four or five 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:45.760 days a week that we would have this schedule. Other 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:49.080 days I would be on set with you guys, showing 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:51.520 you how the group vocals were recorded because you didn't know, 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:54.760 showing you all the little different you singing oh oh 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:58.800 and yeah. In the very beginning, I remember what was 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:03.120 the pilot episode when I was like, we need a system. 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:05.920 We can't just go in there and tell us they 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:08.960 need something ahead of time. And so I came up 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:12.840 from the dumb color coded it was not dumb, that's safe, 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:17.000 and we used it every well, remember, yeah, we use it. 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:18.959 By the way, outside of this, anything we've had to 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:24.240 do post this, we absolutely do. The Tim Davis, the 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:28.760 color coordination is the lyrics to the song. And then 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:31.760 Tim would go in and break it down and say, 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:33.840 like Tina and already were doing a song, right, and 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:36.520 then my color would be pink and larties would be green, 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:39.680 and each lyric that was sung by Tina would be green. 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:42.080 It would be pink and then already green. And then 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:45.240 if it's together. There was like a background color that 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:48.040 was highlighted with the two of us, and then sometimes 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:52.079 they got real complicated. But oh yeah, because there were 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:55.040 eighteen people singing a song, but also because you guys 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:57.240 were also learning lines for the next day, you couldn't 0:13:57.240 --> 0:14:02.839 necessarily like really no, so we'd be I'd come in 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:05.000 the makeup trailer in the morning or the hair trailer 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:07.400 and you go over it with you guys in your 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:12.880 ear while you were being painted. It was fun. I 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:16.640 remember once, um, because these backgrounds have been ingrained in 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:18.760 my memory now where I'll be out in public and 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:21.360 here one of the songs, not even our version of it, 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:25.400 and I'll just automatically start doing the backgrounds. Like Home 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:27.120 when christ and Channe had had to do Home. I 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:29.480 remember we were in Long Beach and we were like 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:32.240 in the cafeteria, like the real life cafege here wherever 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:34.400 we were eating, and you came up to us and like, 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:37.360 all right, everybody look at your lyric sheets and some 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:39.840 of us were like yes, most of us were like no, no, 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.480 we haven't gotten to it yet. And You're like, okay, 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:45.320 so this is what we're shooting right after lunch. Here 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:47.760 are the background parts, and you would start singing it 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:50.680 out loud to us as we're eating, making sure like 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.120 we know what we're doing. And I will never ever 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:55.720 forget those backgrounds. And I and I also did not 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:59.680 know that song very well. And but by the time 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:05.200 we knew it was like when you didn't know the 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:09.080 song really well and there weren't already like classic background vocals, 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:12.840 you know, baked into it like a Sweet Caroline, where 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:15.359 there were ones that like you had kind of created 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:17.920 and crafted on your own that you're like, oh, this 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:21.080 is new and different and really cool, like somebody to love, right, 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:23.840 But you know, we didn't, we didn't know those. We 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:26.120 didn't we we'd have to learn that as well. And 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:29.760 then you know, we'd be worried about our choreography and 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:32.240 what our faces were doing and what other lines we 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:36.080 have that day. So additionally, like you were dealing with 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:38.600 difficult people who are like, yeah, that's the last thing 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:42.240 I'm worried about sometimes, right, And then I felt bad 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:45.480 because it always be like you'd be there and you're like, 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:48.240 you're there for us, for support, to make sure that 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:52.640 we look good, right, And and I love you, Tim, 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:54.560 And and I always knew that I was like, he's 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:57.240 spending his time here. We don't even know the million 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:59.400 things that he's doing off which you just shared, which 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:04.360 is easy. The sur numbers, um, but then you know, 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:07.600 like we did. Everybody was pretty impressed that, Like we 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:10.720 were recording and you know, lip sinking to all of this, 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:13.600 which is crazy. And I do have to say, like 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:18.160 the lip sinking, I'm proud of how the lip sinking 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:22.200 it looks good. You basically trained us how to properly 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:24.920 lip sync with the breathing and all of that to 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:28.400 make sure it looks legit actually sing right, yeah, a 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:30.120 little bit, And if we didn't know it, we would 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:31.640 put an arm in front of our mouth, or the 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:33.280 girls would put their hair in front of their face 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:35.440 and we would turn away from the camera. There was 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:39.160 one number, um, I think it was, um, what's the 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:42.280 Whitney song My Love is Your Love? And we're standing 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:46.400 in rows and nobody knew these background vocals for some reason, 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:51.440 and I feel on my back like and I hear 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:53.800 like paper crinkling, and I'm like, what is going on? 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:59.440 Somebody was safety pinning the lyric sheet to my back 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:03.160 so that they could look at it while we were shooting, 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:06.480 and I didn't know that. Yeah, and then I would 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:08.679 do it to your backpack in front of the on 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:12.080 the wheelchair. But yeah, I felt somebody like pinning a 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:17.000 lyric sheet to my back. Tim tell us about the 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:21.479 experience of being like around the show since you were 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:24.200 there from the beginning as well, like how and then 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:27.000 like the shoot up? And then I have another question 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:30.160 follow up of like what your life was like after Glee, 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:33.680 because I feel like all the movie musicals came out 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:35.719 after Lee, and you did a lot of them. So 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:41.000 I'm just it's a two parter. Well, first of all, 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:46.000 I'm gonna rewind just the teat and go back to um, 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:48.960 go back to At the end of the day, I 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:51.879 would get home and Jimmy Levine was a composer on 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:55.280 the show that did all the tradition cues, and I 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:58.320 would get home and he would have a bunch of 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:01.919 cues waiting for me to do in my box that 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:08.000 we're due the next morning. Were you singing all the what? So? 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:14.880 That was me and my wife and um Alvincia, Yeah, 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:19.200 that's you. Yeah. So I would do those like at 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:22.840 midnight when I get home for like three hours and 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:24.880 then send them to him. And then get up again 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:28.080 and do it the next day that I have so 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:30.320 many questions that we probably shouldn't talk about in public, 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:31.960 Like I hope you were getting paid for each of 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:38.639 these separate jobs. I was okay, good, he was getting 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:46.720 paid more than us. He should be are you kidding? Ah? God? 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:50.520 And to me getting paid? Do we get paid? I 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:53.520 don't know. But the thing is Tim was doing all 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:55.439 of that, and he showed up with a smile on 0:18:55.480 --> 0:19:00.040 his face and all the time. Do you remember a 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:02.360 chick fil A? Times when I would bring chick fil 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:04.320 A to set because you guys didn't have chick fil 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:05.919 A in l A. And I had one by my 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:08.640 house in Orange County, And I would come up that big, 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:11.480 stupid like, I don't know what possessed me because it 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:14.080 made you guys happy, it did. It really brought us 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:18.919 a lot of joy. And then I stopped spending too 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:23.119 much money, like I'm not getting paid for this, okay. 0:19:23.119 --> 0:19:26.520 So what was your question? Just your experience of like Glee, 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:29.840 being around everybody, being on set, like watching the kind 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:32.240 of thing blow up, like being a part of that 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:34.320 just because you were there from the beginning as well. 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:36.960 You didn't come into the monster, like you are part 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:41.200 of the growth of the monster. I'll say this, Um, 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:50.240 I was really um taken by you guys, with your kindness, 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:56.160 with your openness, with your humility. M hm. You you 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:59.960 really wanted to learn, you felt like it's It felt 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:03.520 to me like you were like, I'm doing my best 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:05.800 here to hang up. I don't I don't really know 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:11.159 what I'm doing. I you know, and so. But but 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:15.719 that was very heartwarming because when you come into a situation. 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:18.159 I remember, okay, I remember the first day we were 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:20.680 doing Don't Stop Believing on set and that was my 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:23.920 first day and I came back stage and you guys 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:29.000 are like, well, I said, you guys, that's not accurate. 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:31.399 There are a couple that were looking at me like 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:37.600 who is this? What do you? Please? Don't put one 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:39.280 more person in front of us to tell us what 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:43.240 to do. Um. But I was like, Hey, I'm Tim 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:47.280 vocal ranger. What's a vocal arranger? Well, I no one cares, 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:51.320 but I said, okay, so I tell you when your 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:55.720 mouths are matching or if they're not okay, like okay. 0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:58.000 So then that was the beginning, and that was our 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:01.440 introduction to you. You were just like the sync guy. Yeah, 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:04.760 I had no idea. No, you know what it was. 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:08.800 It said on the call sheet it said lip sync monitor. 0:21:09.440 --> 0:21:18.240 That was like, yeah, you're the lyric guy, right, Yeah, 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:25.320 we need the lyrics lyric guy, lys lyric guy. Um. 0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:28.359 So it was. It was really interesting. I remember also 0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:30.879 because I was kind of new to this world, like 0:21:30.960 --> 0:21:34.280 I hadn't spent much time on a set. I'm going 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:37.119 to get a chair for video Village so I can 0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:39.080 watch you guys. And I go over to the to 0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:42.479 the chair wreck and a guy was like, hey, what 0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:46.320 are you doing. I'm like, uh, getting a chair. No. 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:50.320 I was like, oh, he said, I'll get it. I said, no, 0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:54.359 it's fine, I'll get it. No, I will get the chair. 0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:02.800 The chair, Oh my gosh. I was so scared from 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:05.680 that point on getting in trouble doing anything wrong, touching 0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:08.600 like the popcorn at the craft service. Can I touch 0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:14.439 this popcorn? It was an education for me. But the 0:22:14.480 --> 0:22:16.600 things that I loved the most were like, I remember 0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:20.000 having a conversation with Corey. I love to ask people 0:22:20.080 --> 0:22:24.639 questions and talking with Corey I'm gonna say like the 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:31.320 first week, maybe second week mhm um, and just asking 0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:35.280 about his background as childhood, asking about how he was 0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:38.320 brought up and he was so open and vulnerable, and 0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:43.640 m Um, it was it was awesome. It was amazing, 0:22:43.880 --> 0:22:48.040 you know. And you guys were so the two of 0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:53.760 you were so consistent all the time, kind warm, open, 0:22:54.240 --> 0:22:58.760 easy to work with, and that made everything so much better. 0:22:58.880 --> 0:23:01.840 There were times on the way home I would literally 0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:03.680 pull off the side of the road and break down 0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:08.320 crying because of the pressure and of the difficulty of 0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:13.320 some people on set. It was to have that massive 0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:18.399 workload and encounter difficult people on every level in the 0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:23.119 cast and the crew, with with producers. Um, it was 0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:25.920 a lot. Wow, it was a lot. And I think 0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:30.640 from your what you did, a lot of it went unseen. 0:23:31.240 --> 0:23:33.679 So you're dealing sort of like with this pressure that 0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:37.480 people don't realize and how many aspects of the show 0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:39.919 that you're dipping into to make sure it keeps running, 0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:42.040 and so all these people are asking things of you 0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:44.000 and they don't realize that, well, all these things are connected, 0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:48.560 and I'm juggling about eight different titles right now with 0:23:48.600 --> 0:23:52.520 like overnight deadlines on every single lyric. Guy, Right, you're 0:23:52.600 --> 0:23:57.840 just right, get a grip, Yeah, you just we can 0:23:57.880 --> 0:24:00.200 do this. We can do this without background book as 0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:02.760 we could do this without intro music and I could 0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:07.760 just go home. Right, that's crazy. Well, thanks for sharing that, Tim. 0:24:07.840 --> 0:24:10.920 That's um yeah, a lot of us, I don't you know, 0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:14.800 there's just so many unsung heroes lugly that like people 0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:20.560 don't realize how much pressure and you know, to deliver 0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:25.720 every week after week. Um, you know, like like even 0:24:25.800 --> 0:24:30.080 Zach Woodley like who never like you guys both like 0:24:30.200 --> 0:24:34.840 never complained, never had attitude, like just did your job 0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:38.679 and then had to manage, which we've talked about with 0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:42.000 Ryan a bit on the podcast as well, like people 0:24:42.640 --> 0:24:46.760 having to manage other people like you having basically coming 0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:49.000 in and being like having to teach us something, but 0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:53.440 people not knowing that like you're answering to somebody else 0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:57.040 saying they've asked me to do this for you. We 0:24:56.520 --> 0:24:59.160 didn't yelling at you because you're not doing it right, 0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:01.760 and then like you know, for Zach to have to 0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:04.199