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Speaker 1: Triumph Channel one. An incredible talent, a star known to many,

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Speaker 1: her face instantly recognizable. Alison Mac a sex cult leader.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't even make sense. This is a woman we

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Speaker 1: have all invited into our homes a million times. This

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Speaker 1: immediately when you see her face. It's almost incomprehensible that

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Speaker 1: branded with initials Alexis tors Chuck joining me from Radar

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Speaker 1: Online dot Com investigative reporter Alexis. It's a little hard

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Speaker 1: for me to believe this. I mean, you know how

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Speaker 1: it is, Alexis, And I'll go to our shrink in

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Speaker 1: a moment here and start joining us. When you invite

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Speaker 1: The state better have a good case against this woman.

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Speaker 1: Start at the beginning, Alexis, terrest oh ps, I mean,

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Speaker 1: What's going on? So Alsamac who is a famous actress.

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Speaker 1: this man called Keith Ranier. And it's called Nexium, right Nexium.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that some type of like an indigestion pill? Right

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Speaker 1: right now? What is nexium? Okay, Jackie? Apparently you know

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Speaker 1: what from she's shaking her head. Yes, And there's also

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Speaker 1: to you, Missy alexis terrestro. When people are charged with felonies,

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Speaker 1: she has not been receiving Hollywood star treatment, I don't

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Speaker 1: As Alexis Torez Chuck, investigative reporter with Radar Online dot

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Speaker 1: I v M pronounced nexium. It's founder Keith Rainieri, allegedly

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Speaker 1: a large base has a large base in Albany, New York.

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Speaker 1: The guy who first cracked this story journalist Frank Pelotto

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Speaker 1: Frank Parlatto, thank you for being with us this This

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Speaker 1: What happened? Well, initially it began this cult next and

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Speaker 1: We're we're out. Okay, we're not getting into the as

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Speaker 1: That is what Alison Matc had been tweeting and sending

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Speaker 1: away from it. Frank Parlotto with me, the former Nextian publicist.

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Speaker 1: He's in tearing art of an incredible site called Art

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Speaker 1: it all starts off with a fringe group that manages

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Speaker 1: according to Frank solicit young, I don't believe I've heard

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Speaker 1: It's flashback to Playboy. But okay, not judging, Frank, young

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Speaker 1: That's the initial deception. Then what happens, So they have

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what happens when you get brainwashed your core beliefs.

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Speaker 1: This guy has finally been arrested, Thank goodness for me. No,

425
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Speaker 1: she is convinced that this guy is being being treated unfairly,

426
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,719
Speaker 1: and so she was chasing the police down as if

427
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: to try to rescue him from the cops in well.

428
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, take a listen to Hollywood

429
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: star Alison Mack as she is interviewing the alleged cult

430
00:29:53,480 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: leader about his program that quote helps actors be better actors. Okay, listen,

431
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk a little bit about the Source,

432
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: which is the company that you've created for actors, artists,

433
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: people who want to get better at expressing in general.

434
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: Um Uh. Several years ago when we first met, I

435
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: had said to you, would you be willing to work

436
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: with me and becoming a better actress? And you said, yeah,

437
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: you know, we'll talk about it. And then several years

438
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: later you you started working with me and a bunch

439
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: of other people to develop a curriculum specifically for actors.

440
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: And um, I've been talking to different people about it

441
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: in like different actors and things like that, enrolling them

442
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: in the idea of coming and participating and saying what

443
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: you've created, because it's been incredible for me. Um And

444
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: a lot of the questions that they ask is like, well,

445
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: how is it different than Misner? How is it different

446
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: than stuff Adler or whatever? And a lot of what

447
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: the answers that I've given have been like, well, it's

448
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: sort of, it's sort of it's a partnership with that

449
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: because it gives you the foundation underneath all of the

450
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: technical skills and all of the kind of traditional approaches

451
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: to acting that we've had throughout time. Um, like, it

452
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: really gets to the core of the actor so that

453
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: you can work on the raw material and then everything

454
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: else that they produce is affected by that. But I

455
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: don't know, Like, I'm curious to know what your perception

456
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: is of the curriculum that you created and where it

457
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: came from. And well, it comes from a mix of

458
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: human behavior and philosophy and also really technical communication. You know,

459
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: acting is all about a type of communication and being

460
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: not only more aware, but more congruent in your communication.

461
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: So you want people to, if you will, to be

462
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: a bit m m common in what I say. You

463
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: want people to buy your character, and the way they

464
00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: buy it is they find it congruent and authentic. Okay,

465
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: the question I mean, if someone could be totally congruent

466
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: in a character and express authentically through that character, so

467
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: they could do any sort of a scene or whatever,

468
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: certainly that actor could do anything. So the question is

469
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: how do you achieve that? How do you achieve congruence,

470
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: how do you achieve authenticity? And I think there are

471
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: many roads to do this. The thing that I think

472
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: makes the Source a bit unique is I come from

473
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: a non acting background. You could say, I don't know

474
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. So that's that's good and bad.

475
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: The good aspect is it comes from a a behaviorist

476
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: humanists sort of UM practical and philosophical background dealing with communication,

477
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: dealing with UM all sorts of things relating to the

478
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: psychodie ynamics of of people and humans UM without being

479
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: tainted by the current pedagogy of acting. And there's both

480
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: a good and a bad. The good is when you

481
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: have something that comes in like that fresh, it provides

482
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: a tool that goes outside of the box of all

483
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: the normal tool sets. You know, any actor that wants

484
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: to create a methodology of acting, especially if they know

485
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: those other methodologies, they're influenced in a certain way, and

486
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: that can be very very good. But at times it's

487
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,719
Speaker 1: also good to have something that is not influenced in

488
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: the normal way by that as if coming from another planet.

489
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: So to some degree, the Source it's not just created

490
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: for actors, it's created for human communication. It's something that

491
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: can be used in arbitration, it's something that can be

492
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: used in negotiations, it's something that abused in parenting, it's

493
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: something that could be used in a love relationship. And

494
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: it comes from that perspective, but does have a strong

495
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: application to what you would call that authentic congruent expression HM.

496
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: And it's not tainted by the other schools that are

497
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: all extraordinary. It's not not it's not at all that

498
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: they're not great. It's that this is different. As you

499
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: hear Alison Mac interviewing the cult leader, compare that the

500
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: dichotomy of these victims describing being strip naked, blindfolded, and tattoos.

501
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: Sarah says she devoted twelve years to Nexium, recruiting hundreds

502
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 1: of new members, rising through the organization, even opening and

503
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: running a center in Vancouver along the way, becoming best

504
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: friends with Nancy Saltzman's daughter, Lauren, who was made of

505
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: honor at sarah His wedding. She's like my therapist and

506
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: in the ranking system she's also above me. Then in March,

507
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: after all their years together and Nexium, Sarah says, Lauren

508
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: approached her about a new and mysterious opportunity. She said,

509
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 1: I want to invite you to something that totally changed

510
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: my life. It was a secret sorority for women only,

511
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: life changing but top secret. And the first step is

512
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: making a valve obedience to her as me being a

513
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: slave and her being my master. Again was the word slave,

514
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: of course, Yeah, and objected every stage of the way,

515
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: and she said, it's just a it's a metaphor, it's

516
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: a guru disciple. Then came the night that Sarah says

517
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: she and four other women submitted one by one to

518
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: being branded by this woman, she says Dr Danielle Roberts.

519
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: And the woman on the table screamed out in pain,

520
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: you know, twisted and turn and yelled. And the woman

521
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: I was with, holding her legs down, we looked at

522
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: each other and we just wept. Why didn't you let

523
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: go and run out of their even naked? It didn't

524
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: seem like a choice at the time. She points two

525
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: years of Nexium training and all the indoctrination, all the

526
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: years of women are weak, women have no character. Now

527
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: is the time to prove I can do it, and

528
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: I said. Sarah gives another explanation for her obedience before

529
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 1: she joined the secret sorority and got branded. She says,

530
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: Lawrence Saltzman had demanded highly compromising collateral. You need to

531
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: provide something to me that I'm going to hold forever,

532
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: just to confirm and to and to solidify that you'll

533
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: never share the secret. So what did your giver? So?

534
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: I gave her a written confessional and she, she says,

535
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: for her and some others, the price of admission to

536
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: the secret group also included providing nude photos of themselves.

537
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: To understand, when women do that, it's very difficult to

538
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: say no, I'm not doing this because the person has

539
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 1: something of you with them Instantly, all my alarm bells

540
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: are absolute. So why did you do it? I did

541
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: it because I trusted her. That was from ABC's report

542
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 1: on nexium. This is how the whole thing works. Um

543
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: during arrayment a grand jury her testimony from former members

544
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: of the cult, They claim the Hollywood start MAC would

545
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: lure young ladies into joining the cult cult and then

546
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: demand they turned over quote collateral. The collateral would be

547
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: compromising photos or their personal assets, money, belongings, car titles.

548
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: That collateral was then used by MAC, according to the

549
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: grand jury, to control the women who were transformed into

550
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: branded sex slaves. And this is all from court filings.

551
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: Now the founder and Eery was arrested the way Alexis

552
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: Reschuck just told us. In Mexico, the States said that

553
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: during the past twenty years, Ranieri established a series of

554
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: self help programs self help programs. They had centers, so

555
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: they were getting a lot of money funding in the US, Mexico, Canada,

556
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: South America. And it was a pyramid scheme. The courses

557
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,479
Speaker 1: cost thousands of dollars and the people that took them

558
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: were then encouraged to pay for other classes and recruit

559
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: other people to take the classes so they could rise

560
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: up within the ranks. It's like um, it's a pyramid scheme,

561
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: and Bremner it's like a Ponzi scheme. And brem Nur

562
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: Seattle lawyer explained what I mean by pyramid. Basically, it's

563
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: like Ami or any of these kinds of things that

564
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: you just keep building membership by using your members to

565
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: go out and get other people and just keep building

566
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: that pyramid. Um. There's a lot of financial ones like

567
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: that too, But this is human trafficking and it's just

568
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: self perpetuating and here it's criminal and what they're also

569
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: claiming is that Alison Might, the Hollywood star, would force

570
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: women to become sex slaves after they joined the group

571
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 1: by threatening to drain all their assets or release those

572
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: compromising photos. So what would happen Frank Parlotto with me

573
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: the former Nextian publicist, the journalists that first broke the story.

574
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 1: You can find him at art Voice. What would happen

575
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: if someone try to stop and leave the cult them

576
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 1: with the release of their quote unquote collateral. It all

577
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: exploded last year around May of two thousand seventeen, when

578
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: the secret part of Nextium they call it dust and

579
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: that stands for dominance, obsequious sororium or the master over

580
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: the slave women became reveal to the um external group

581
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: of Nexium, the women who had not yet been branded,

582
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 1: and that caused kind of chaotic explosion with the Nexium

583
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: and a rapid exodus. Allison stuck with the group, as

584
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: did the core slaves, and even when the women's were threatened,

585
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: some of them, like Sarah Edmondson I decided to leave

586
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 1: any way in risk the collateral being released. It's just

587
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: amazing that this is happening right here under our own noses. Guys,

588
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: if you're not familiar with Alison mc the Hollywood star.

589
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: She played Chloe in Smallville, and that was the hit

590
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: show about Clark Kent, Superman being raised in small Volkansas

591
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: before he was known as Superman, and it lasted ten seasons.

592
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 1: She was also in Aunt Bully, she was in Honey,

593
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: We Shrunk Ourselves. She's been in a lot of movies

594
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: and is very well known in the in the celebrity community.

595
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 1: And then there's the Seagram's heiress as well, who now

596
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: apparently is um taking over a max position. Take a

597
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: listen to this. According to promotional materials, even as a child,

598
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 1: Ranieri was destined for greatness, speaking in full sentences at

599
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: age one, reading at age two, judo champ and concert

600
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: level pianists. At thirteen, I was told that he was

601
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: one of the smartest men in the world and just

602
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: an incredible man. With that, I'm going to pass the

603
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: microphone over to Mr Neary. So incredible. It seems that

604
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: an ordinary name just won't do. Participants say they're taught

605
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: to call Ranieri Vanguard. Vanguard. Yes, Vanguard is the name

606
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: that we referred to Keith as because he's a leader

607
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: of a philosophical movement. The second highest ranking member of

608
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: Nexium is a woman named Nancy Saltzman. Former members say

609
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: she is known as Prefect so Keith and Nancy Vanguarden Prefect.

610
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: At the heart of Nexium training is something called intensives,

611
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: which former members say are like group therapy, running as

612
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: long as fourteen hours a day for up to sixteen days.

613
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: Edmondson says she attended her first in two thousand five,

614
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: when she was twenty seven. I left my five day,

615
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: my initial training, as if a veil had been lifted

616
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: and I could see things more clearly in my life.

617
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 1: I could communicate better with people. That sounds fantastic, Yeah,

618
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: it was great. Classes are invitation only and they are

619
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: not cheap. A five day intensive will run you three

620
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, a sixteen day is seventy undred. In promotional

621
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: videos and materials that claims more than sixteen thousand people

622
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: worldwide have taken Nexium courses, many testify to its effectiveness.

623
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: I learned through the tools that there was a different way.

624
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: Sarah of was recruited into the group by filmmaker Mark Vicente.

625
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: What was it that was so compelling to you? Just

626
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: the way it to break down and understand certain things

627
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: in my life in a way I never had before.

628
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: Ranieri is fiercely protective of his teachings, requiring participants to

629
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: sign confidentiality agreements. Everyone signed it, and if you didn't

630
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: sign it, you couldn't take the curriculum. We do know

631
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: that Nexium has its own LINGO. Students are taught about

632
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: overcoming disintegrations to become more potent and less suppressive, and

633
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: avoiding people termed parasites or luciferians. Did you know about

634
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: a recent law that could leave your personal data exposed

635
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: online for anybody to find? If you've thrown all the

636
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: news lately, you know the Internet has created a dangerous

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Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace, and we are shocked about a cult

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Speaker 1: right here under our own noses that has used women

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Speaker 1: as sex slaves after branding them. And these are educated

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Speaker 1: and many of them will to do women, some of

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Speaker 1: them Hollywood stars in fact, apparently even trying to recruit Hermione,

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Speaker 1: that's Emma Watson from the Harry Potter series, trying to

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Speaker 1: recruit Kelly Clarkson. Of course, Harmiony and Kelly Clarkson. We're

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Speaker 1: not involved in any way, but so many other women

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Speaker 1: fell for it. As it was first noted, it had

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Speaker 1: the appearance of normalcy okay, and women got into it

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Speaker 1: as a women empowerment group. But I want you to

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Speaker 1: listen to Hollywood star Alison Mack. She is on YouTube

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Speaker 1: and she is raving about a women's empowerment group. Here

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Speaker 1: she's calling it by different initials, but it's Nexium. Listen,

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Speaker 1: when someone is being authentic, you get the feeling that

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Speaker 1: not only that there's a person there in the moment,

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Speaker 1: but somehow you you reach into their very essence and

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Speaker 1: you you meet a unique individual. I don't know why

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Speaker 1: that makes me want to cry. It's beautiful. I think

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Speaker 1: it's sorry. Okay, so but why why do you think

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Speaker 1: that's so emotional for me? I don't know. I think

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Speaker 1: because it seems like it's a something that I just

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Speaker 1: I feel like I want it m authenticity and I

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Speaker 1: and I think, what do you want about authenticity? I

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Speaker 1: think that there's a relaxed kind of exchange that happens

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Speaker 1: between people when there's no pretense, and it seems like

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Speaker 1: to me, those are like the most moving, most meaningful,

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Speaker 1: most important moments in life. I'm not disagreeing with you,

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Speaker 1: but why, Yeah, it's funny. I mean it feels like

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Speaker 1: in a silly way, it's like that's where love is,

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Speaker 1: like that's where like two. I guess it's the existential

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Speaker 1: thing like it feels like two souls can come together

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Speaker 1: without any sort of barrier boundary, and somehow there's completion

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Speaker 1: or not a loneness or a transcendence in some way.

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Speaker 1: That feels like it's the root of my motivation and

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Speaker 1: a lot of all the things that I do in life.

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Speaker 1: And and I guess that's probably part of the reason

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Speaker 1: why I have such an obsession with art and creativity

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Speaker 1: and things like that, because it feels like the sole

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Speaker 1: purpose of those things is to generate that kind of

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Speaker 1: an experience for people. You know, Karen Stark, New York psychologist, Karen,

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Speaker 1: when you're in so deep in something, I guess it

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Speaker 1: seems normal to you. It seems normal to you, and

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Speaker 1: it seems normal to the people around you. And maybe

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Speaker 1: for people who are vulnerable for the first time, they

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Speaker 1: get a strong feeling of belonging to something. It always

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Speaker 1: involves a charismatic leader, so that you're enticed and you

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Speaker 1: feel like you're getting the special attention. She talks about

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Speaker 1: Alex and that the fact that he was her mentor

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Speaker 1: that he mentored her in acting and the skills of acting,

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Speaker 1: and they made it all sound very legitimate. You took courses,

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Speaker 1: there was a curriculum. It became extremely enticing to be

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Speaker 1: a part of this group, particularly because there were so

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Speaker 1: many people who were celebrities or who had a great

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Speaker 1: deal of money, and you begin to question, well, if

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Speaker 1: they why would they be a member of this group

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Speaker 1: if it were not legitimate. We are talking about a

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Speaker 1: cult that started in Albany, New York, Upstate New York,

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Speaker 1: with connections all over the world. Now it poses as

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Speaker 1: a self help organization to empower women, and it rides

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Speaker 1: the coattails of girl power. It ends up in the

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Speaker 1: spotlight when the New York Times investigation exposed that the

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Speaker 1: women in the group were referred to as slaves and

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Speaker 1: subjected to ritual humiliations. They starved themselves. They were forced

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Speaker 1: to starve themselves to achieve the cult leaders beauty ideal

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Speaker 1: and to have repeated relations with him. Okay, Alexis Terres

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Speaker 1: Chuck writer, online investigative reporter. Where is he right now?

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Speaker 1: Keith Ranieri? He is in custody. He was arrested in

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Speaker 1: March and extradited back to the United States, so he

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Speaker 1: is awaiting trial. The interesting thing is Alison mac got

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Speaker 1: released from jail and according to court paper, she is

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Speaker 1: working with federal prosecutors on a pleabial so she might

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Speaker 1: actually turn on him after having been his right hand

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Speaker 1: women for all these years. You know, I'm noticing something

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Speaker 1: to Anne Bremer, Seattle lawyer, and um, just like we

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Speaker 1: saw with Harvey Weinstein, you know, he would have other

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Speaker 1: women do his dirty work, set up meetings, set up

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Speaker 1: quote interviews with Hollywood starletts, and women would see another

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Speaker 1: woman thinking, oh, this is okay. Do you see that

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Speaker 1: same thing according to prosecutors working here, Because according to

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Speaker 1: US Attorney more Penza, Alison Mack was one of the

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Speaker 1: top members of this scheme, which was designed to give

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Speaker 1: Ranieri sex slaves under the guys a female empowerment, and

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Speaker 1: that sheet Max starved women until they fit Ranieri's sexual

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Speaker 1: feminine ideal. So your lure a woman is lured in

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Speaker 1: by another woman, she thinks it's safe, then it's too late. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's why I'd be so hard to have her turn

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Speaker 1: witness in a case like this. I mean, it's just

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Speaker 1: so abhorrent. You know what she's done in the name

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Speaker 1: of the empowerment during this me to the tsunami in

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Speaker 1: so many ways that we're seeing and and hers talking

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Speaker 1: about women's empowerment. I mean, it's all criminal all the

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Speaker 1: way around, and she's going to try and escape, fashes

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Speaker 1: out on it. Was it a five million dollar bail

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Speaker 1: and he's still in custoding. She may well turned to

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Speaker 1: Frank Parlato, former Nexium publicist, founder of Art Voice and

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Speaker 1: the journalists that broke the story. Frank, how did you

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Speaker 1: become involved with Nexium as their publicist? But I was

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Speaker 1: originally retained to work for them by Claire Raffman, the

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Speaker 1: Seagrim's heiress, who funds the entire operation of Nexium. She

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Speaker 1: funded all of the branding and the cult network, and

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Speaker 1: I was retained back in two thousand and seven to

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Speaker 1: try to help them um get a better public persona.

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Speaker 1: Even at that time people in the media were labeling

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Speaker 1: this group as a call Well, Frank, how did you

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Speaker 1: get out of it? Why? I had uncovered that Keith

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Speaker 1: r Neary, the head of the cult, he had embezzled

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Speaker 1: or swindled Claire Broffman out of one hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 1: And I approached Claire and I told her that her

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Speaker 1: money was missing and that Keith was in charge of

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Speaker 1: that money. A hundred million disappeared, and she didn't really

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Speaker 1: want to accept that um finding, which you know later

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Speaker 1: wound up being proven to be true. She was contented

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Speaker 1: in swindling her on a hundred fire. There is also

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Speaker 1: alleged connections to Um. The twenty six year old daughter

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Speaker 1: of Dynasty actress Katherine Oxenburg and the granddaughter of Princess

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Speaker 1: Elizabeth of Yugoslavia. We're talking about alleged claims that India Oxenburg,

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Speaker 1: the twenty six year old daughter and granddaughter, was brainwashed

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Speaker 1: by this cult. She's beautiful and she fits exactly the

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Speaker 1: physical description that Frank Parlotto and Alexis terres Chuck are describing.

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Speaker 1: The tall, thin blonde again, the twenty six year old

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Speaker 1: daughter of the Dynasty star Katherine Oxenburg, the granddaughter of

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Speaker 1: allegedly a sex cult slave. This is incredible to me.

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Speaker 1: Her family allegedly claiming they believe she was indeed brainwashed

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Speaker 1: by this leader, Keith rayniery Um. He would lure young

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Speaker 1: It is happening here in our country under the guys,

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Speaker 1: the disguise, the shroud, the facade of normalcy, or once again,

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