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Speaker 1: Well, if very few players can say this, Robert or

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Speaker 1: made the playoffs in each season of a sixteen year

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Speaker 1: NBA career, never lost in the first round, thirty nine

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Speaker 1: playoffs series wins. Now he does a great job Laker

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Speaker 1: analyst on Spectrum, see him all the time talking Lakers,

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Speaker 1: and he is now joining US live. Played for Phil

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Speaker 1: Popovitch Rudy T. So I want to start before we

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Speaker 1: get to the Lakers stuff, because you know him well

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Speaker 1: and you had some great comments off the air. So

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Speaker 1: everybody's kind of banging on bam out of Bayu, and

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Speaker 1: I know, I know what was fun. But Robert, he

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Speaker 1: had thirty one in the first quarter in sixty two

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Speaker 1: through three, And I remember the Kobe eighty one game.

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Speaker 1: Kobe scored eleven points in the last four minutes and

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Speaker 1: they and he was taking all the shots. So can

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Speaker 1: I defend Bam out to buy you and go listen,

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Speaker 1: when you go into the fourth quarter with sixty two,

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Speaker 1: your boys are going to take care of you, right,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna get the looks right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Correct?

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Speaker 4: You know for me, you know, we all make mistakes sometimes,

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Speaker 4: and the information I was given about the game, I

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Speaker 4: jumped to conclusion. So I want to apologize with Bam

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Speaker 4: saying it should be an ask Bam, you deserve what

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Speaker 4: you got. You know, after watching the highlights and sowing

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Speaker 4: the work you put in, I apologize you put it

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Speaker 4: into work. It should be no asterids by your game.

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Speaker 4: Because you know, I'm a big, big band fan, because

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Speaker 4: he's only one of the guys that can play a

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Speaker 4: few guys that can do it on both ends of

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Speaker 4: the course. So what he did was in a great

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Speaker 4: a confience, So you know he should be proud of it,

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Speaker 4: and Miami Heat organizations. More important, his teammates should be

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Speaker 4: proud of because they got him that they got him

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Speaker 4: the astroconomical number.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So Robert I was talking about this earlier, is that

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Speaker 1: for twenty years when Lebron played with Andrena Silgoskas got

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Speaker 1: plays with Anthony Davis and it works, and so I

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Speaker 1: just thought, naturally, oh, he and Luca would be great together.

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Speaker 1: But the net rating since Luca arrived and the defensive

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Speaker 1: ratings Luca and Austin are better when Lebron's not on

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Speaker 1: the floor. So I thought that Luca think, well, they

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Speaker 1: both passed, well, they're both smart players.

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Speaker 5: It'll work.

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Speaker 1: The data's in. It's they're not great together on the floor.

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Speaker 1: Why tell me?

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Speaker 5: Why?

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Speaker 1: What do you notice that worked other places that doesn't

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Speaker 4: I think when you one of the times I like

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Speaker 4: the use of basketball players especialist. When you look at

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Speaker 4: all the other formas that he had, those guys were specialist,

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Speaker 4: Luca and arre kuind of the same, and then you

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Speaker 4: throw Lebron and that he's similar. But the problem is

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Speaker 4: when you have those three in the game, they're not

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Speaker 4: great defensive players. And you consider Lebron's a good defensive

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Speaker 4: player and Luca and ar Okay, you got to have

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Speaker 4: a lot of times in this game is about you

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Speaker 4: stopped me first, and then we just you know, let

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Speaker 3: Of go it. But you at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: Situation where you got to score, you got to have

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Speaker 4: some type of defensive scheme. And I think that was

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Speaker 4: one of the things that it's not talked about enough,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you played with Pop and Phil Jackson.

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Speaker 4: If you go back and look at every championship I

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Speaker 4: It's easy. But you look at the Lakers and you

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Speaker 4: And there's nobody back that it can really guard the

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Speaker 1: The you know, I've said before it was different with

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Speaker 5: They're Lakers.

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Speaker 1: But and I say this, I always defended Lebron for

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Speaker 1: being mobile and bouncing around the league on his terms.

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Speaker 1: I defended him. He empowered players. It's sort of the

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Speaker 1: Lebron empowered players. You guys go look around the league.

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Speaker 1: And so the downside of that for Lebron.

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Speaker 3: Is that.

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Speaker 1: There's not a feeling like Magic. Like Magic is a Laker.

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Speaker 1: When he shows up to the games, people still stand

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Speaker 1: instead of Crypto. It's like, oh my god, that I

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Speaker 1: do think. Maybe I'm wrong, Robert, But you could move

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Speaker 1: off Lebron, give him a statue. I don't think Laker

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Speaker 5: He always he was a mobile guy.

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Speaker 1: He went to the best situation, He did what was

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of times fans forget that it's

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Speaker 4: a player's choice to go where they want to go

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Speaker 4: and we get caught up in Oh he's a laker,

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Speaker 4: he's a cavalier, or he's a heat You think about

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Speaker 4: when guys in the real world, they don't like their job,

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Speaker 4: get a statue in Cleveland. He's just get statue in

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Speaker 4: la he should get a statue in Miami. But because

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Speaker 4: you think about what he's done for every organization, sometimes

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Speaker 4: it's not about the wins, it's about the butts you

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Speaker 4: So you know, I think he should be, you know,

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Speaker 4: a lot of grief because of the passes he makes

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Speaker 4: sometimes like he shouldn't have did this. But think about it.

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Speaker 4: The dude's been in the league longer than half the

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Speaker 4: He stepped on the court, and I think that's one

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Speaker 3: We have to look at in the marvel.

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Speaker 4: He's just a great athlete, he's a great human being,

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Speaker 4: and more important, he knows how to keep it separated

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Speaker 3: When at forty one.

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Speaker 1: Years old, Austin reeves, can he be a number two

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Speaker 5: How do you feel about Austin?

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Speaker 4: I love Austin. I think he can be. But it's

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Speaker 3: That makes them made the shine. And I think that's

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Speaker 4: The thing that you can You can go back and

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Speaker 4: Because what you do with a great offensive player, you

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Speaker 3: To worry him out.

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Speaker 4: His legs are tired and he can't shoot his especially

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Speaker 4: one of the things that a lot of players like

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Speaker 1: The You know, the numbers are pretty clear when Luca,

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Speaker 1: Lebron and Austin are on the floor together, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: they don't have a defensive stopper. But I also think

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Speaker 1: but when Austin and Lebron are on the court together,

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Speaker 1: like Austin's not as aggressive, it's like, well, Lebron, I mean,

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Speaker 1: he grew up watching idolizing Lebron, and so this is

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Speaker 1: I do think it's time to make it Luca's team

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Speaker 1: and Austin's team, and Lebron kind of takes the oxygen

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Speaker 5: Is that fair?

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's does sports. A lot of teams

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Speaker 4: have the hierarchy who you're going to go to. What

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Speaker 4: a mismatch, and nine times out a team Lebron has

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Speaker 4: you know, you think about Dwayne.

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Speaker 3: Wade sacrifice his game.

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Speaker 4: Steph Curry sacrificed his game for KD and then you

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Speaker 4: know the great players do that in order for those

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Speaker 4: guys are exceptional. You know, the upper edgement proms like

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Speaker 4: Lebron to be able to shine. I think sometimes it's

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Speaker 4: up to the you know if you know, sometimes Lebron

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Speaker 4: be like, no, go you cook, you do your thing.

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Speaker 3: But it's up to the player to look.

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Speaker 4: At a sit on the bench and say, yo, man,

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Speaker 4: I got the advantage night, I'm hot.

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Speaker 3: Let me cook. And I think ar has finally.

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Speaker 3: You know what, Luca, I had the mismatch.

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Speaker 4: Even last night's game, Luca kin was like, Okay, do

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Robert or sixteen year seven titles sixteen year NBA veteran.

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Speaker 1: You won almost seventy percent of your game, so you

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Speaker 4: Oh man, my last game is a laker.

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Speaker 4: But on the other flip side of that, the Lakers.

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Speaker 3: Money because they let me go. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I watch you regularly on all the Lakers stuff, and

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Speaker 1: You played for four years for whimp Sanderson's I remember.

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Speaker 1: I remember that's when guys actually stayed in college, didn't

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Speaker 1: Well, good seeing you, Yeah, good to see you, brother.

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Speaker 1: All right, big shot Bob Robert or seven time champ.

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Speaker 1: That is just an insane number to me. Thirty nine

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Speaker 5: It's incredible. J Mack with a.

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Speaker 3: News no, no turn on the news.

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Speaker 2: This is the herdline news.

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Speaker 8: So that shot against the Kings, the three over Weber.

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Speaker 8: I was at a bar in dewey Beach, Colin. It

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Speaker 7: It was amazing.

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Speaker 8: I'll still remember that to this day. People were going crazy.

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Speaker 8: What a big shot, Bob, such a legend. All right,

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Speaker 8: let's get started with Max Crosby and the backout in Baltimore.

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Speaker 8: I think the discussion next becomes like, what do you

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Speaker 7: Door number two, hey, man, you're not healthy.

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Speaker 7: You know, rookie quarterback, you're not great.

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Speaker 8: Let's see whatever we can get a contender needs in

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Speaker 7: Is there maybe a door number four I'm missing? Or

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Speaker 1: My guess is I mean he was in the facility today,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's as chaotic as everybody thinks. I

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Speaker 1: I think they have eleven to twelve draft picks, right,

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Speaker 1: your team's gonna get really young. And you I mean,

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Speaker 1: It's a young team with a lot of their you know,

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Speaker 5: Players are all old players.

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Speaker 1: Trent and Christian and Kittle and Bosa. It's like most

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Speaker 1: So if they couldn't move Max, I'd be okay with it.

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Speaker 8: So, but they also got some veterans who have playoff experience, right, So.

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Speaker 7: Ron Johnson, the cornerback, has been a lot of playoffs.

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Speaker 8: Linderbaum as you said, Kwaiy Walker's been in the playoffs,

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Speaker 7: Oh, I mean seven eight games.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I think I would not be shocked. You think

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Speaker 1: You know it's because you know we've done the Washington

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Speaker 8: And you also know how life works, right, Sometimes you

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Speaker 7: This could be a blessing in disguise, you know, keeping crossby.

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Speaker 7: Maybe it becomes a leader. All right, let's move on

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Speaker 7: to bam Adebayo and.

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Speaker 8: His eighty three point game last night against the hapless Wizards,

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Speaker 8: that impressed with bam As you know, at points last night,

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Speaker 8: Washington was like triple teaming him so he wouldn't get

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Speaker 8: the ball. They didn't sub him out up twenty late

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Speaker 8: in the game, missing free throws on purpose. Here's a

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Speaker 8: Emai Udoka, the coach of the Rockets, on the last

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Speaker 8: night's eighty three points.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I mean, first thing you think is how you know

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Speaker 9: because of not because of him, but because of the

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Speaker 9: way he plays, you know. And I saw it only

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Speaker 9: made six threes, but forty free throws or something like

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Speaker 9: that tells the story right there. And the Washington Wizards.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he averages five free throws a game.

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Speaker 1: He got forty three.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think you.

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Speaker 8: Nailed it with the Hey, this is a special impressive

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Speaker 8: performance all time stuff.

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Speaker 1: I think when you have sixty two at the end

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Speaker 1: of three quarters, everybody just looks down the bench is

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Speaker 1: like bro we got to take care of our guy.

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Speaker 1: Let's get him to Kobe's number. Think that's what happened,

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Speaker 1: and I'm okay with it. So I think it was

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Speaker 1: Jalen Rose.

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Speaker 7: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 8: Do you remember who the defender was when Kobe scored

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Speaker 8: eighty one? Someone on the Raptors and we remembered it

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Speaker 8: for years now, it's been all fifteen years. But there's

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Speaker 8: nobody on Washington who we even know because they're actively tanking.

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Speaker 8: Have you looked at the guys they've played last night on.

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Speaker 1: Their ages were twenty twenty, twenty nineteen, and twenty one.

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Speaker 7: They're playing two way guys in hope.

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Speaker 5: We're playing college these games.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly. Michigan was probably older than the starting lineup

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Speaker 7: that Washington tried it out last night, So I mean,

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Speaker 7: I get it. It's fascinating.

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Speaker 8: So it's eighty three freaking points man, final storycom Team

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Speaker 8: USA Baseball.

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Speaker 7: We got to hit it just one more time.

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Speaker 8: USA is playing the waiting game due to that loss

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Speaker 8: to Italy last night.

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Speaker 7: It's very clear they need Italy need to beat.

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Speaker 8: Mexico tonight or Mexico scores five runs, that's how the

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Speaker 8: US advances.

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Speaker 7: Here's Mark de Rosa after the loss last.

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Speaker 10: Night, tough game, great game by Italy. Jumped on US quick,

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Speaker 10: couple big homers to kind of stifle the crowd a

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Speaker 10: little bit, and uh.

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Speaker 3: Just a little.

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Speaker 10: We had the right guys to play it at the

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Speaker 10: right time, just weren't able to get it done.

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Speaker 7: So again, I you know, I'm not really up on

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Speaker 7: Nolan McClain.

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Speaker 5: Colin.

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Speaker 7: This is Team USA.

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Speaker 8: Nolan McLain had eight MLB starts according to our staff.

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Speaker 4: Eight.

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Speaker 7: Why is he pitching in that spot? Nolan McLain, Team

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Speaker 7: USA Baseball?

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Speaker 8: That like, that's a that's a tough one for the

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Speaker 8: young guy.

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean we have bombed by Italy.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, you get to these international competitions.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, listen, if if the USA soccer team at the

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Speaker 8: World Cup, you know, gets shelled for nothing in the

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Speaker 8: group stage, trust me, you're not going to handle it

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Speaker 8: that way.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: Well, World Cup it feels a little different.

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Speaker 8: World Baseball Classic is popping off. It's doing huge numbers

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Speaker 8: of people. Are it is People are obsessed with the

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Speaker 8: I mean the games are great.

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Speaker 5: Yep, yeah, I agree Jmack with the news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the

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Speaker 2: Herd Line News. Be sure to catch live editions of

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Speaker 2: The Herd weekdays and noon Easter not a em Pacific, so.

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Speaker 1: I you know it's everybody's I mean, bam out of

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Speaker 1: by you. I can't believe he didn't remember. The guy's

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Speaker 1: been a two time Gold Medalist, three time All Star,

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Speaker 1: five time All defensive player. I will admit I would

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Speaker 1: not have guessed Bam out of Bayu would drop eighty three.

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Speaker 5: But it's I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, you go back to the Kobe game that that

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Speaker 1: Laker team in the fourth quarter, Kobe has taken all

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Speaker 1: the shots and they were blown out a bad team.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is people are just

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Speaker 1: surprised to Bam out of Bayou. But he is an

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Speaker 1: elite player. If you're an Olympian, you are an elite player,

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Speaker 1: elite length. He's been around forever and they're playing a tanking,

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Speaker 1: crappy Washington team. Here was a Yannis on his performance.

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Speaker 10: Incredible, incredible, Uh speaks spoilum seeing this hard work.

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen the game. I have to watch the game.

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Speaker 1: It's the thirty six or forty three from the line.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it doesn't matter how you get it all that

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Speaker 11: might as you've got it.

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Speaker 3: Ten twenty thirty is from now, everybody's going to maybe

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Speaker 3: having the fifth he shot. I don't think.

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Speaker 10: I don't remember how many shots Kobe shot though how

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Speaker 10: many made though threes old you to me it's eighty one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's exactly how I feel.

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Speaker 1: It's uh uh, but it's funny we celebrated Kobe's eighty one.

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Speaker 1: We still talk in Hershey, Pennsylvania about the Wilt Chamberlain

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Speaker 1: one hundred. I mean it's if Jahn Morant, who is

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Speaker 1: not nearly as good as Bamada Bayou, If Jahn Morant

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Speaker 1: dropped eighty three last night, everybody be like, wow, he

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Speaker 1: was cooking. That's unbelievable. Bamada bay who is a much

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Speaker 1: better player than Ja Morant. If Zion scored eighty three

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Speaker 1: and Bamada buy he was a much better player than

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Speaker 1: Zion Williamson, I think people would have liked it. But

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Speaker 1: when bam does it, it's like, well, it's a lot.

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Speaker 5: Of free throws.

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Speaker 1: Here was Wimby didn't seem quite as excited as I am.

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Speaker 3: Did you see uh fam at eighty three tonight?

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Speaker 8: Does that give you any inspiration to go for some

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Speaker 8: of the bigger scoring numbers, and you.

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Speaker 3: Guess, yeah, I saw.

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Speaker 4: I think there's we're a grouping in the league when

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Speaker 4: where there's plenty of inspiration to look up.

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Speaker 3: So but yeah, I saw.

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Speaker 5: I don't think was that impressed. I do think.

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Speaker 1: You know when people say, well, I mean there's tanking

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Speaker 1: and the Wizards are terrible. Just let's be honest. All

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Speaker 1: dynasties usually come from a place of weakness. Is that

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Speaker 1: the minute Harbaugh gets hired by the Chargers and Sean

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Speaker 1: Payton gets hired by the Broncos, Now the Kansas City

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Speaker 1: Chiefs don't feel quite as dominant, right, Like that's the

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Speaker 1: reality of Like lebron used to get to the finals

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Speaker 1: every year in the East. He goes West, he's not

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Speaker 1: quite as dominant. Nick Saban dominated the SEC, and then

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Speaker 1: one of his assistants, his best assistant ever, Kirby Smart,

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Speaker 1: goes to Georgia and then Texas joins the Conference and

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban is not as dominant at Alabama. And so

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Speaker 1: you know, when anybody has a great dynasty or a

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Speaker 1: great run, I mean Tom Brady and we all love Tom.

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Speaker 1: The Jets were in the toilet most of that twenty

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Speaker 1: years the Bills were absolutely in the toilet and the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins were always average. The minute the Buffalo Bills got

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, suddenly Belichick wasn't this dominant against the quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: in his division. He could not stop Josh Allen. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, the way I look at it

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Speaker 1: is Kobe did his number against the lousy Raptors team

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Speaker 1: and they kept him into the end of the game

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Speaker 1: to chuck up threes, and Wilt did it against a

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Speaker 1: Knicks team that was eighteen hundred, five hundred, and Bam

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Speaker 1: did it against the lousy Wizards team. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is the reality of the NBA. And you know, you

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Speaker 1: go back to that Kobe. It's just funny how we

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Speaker 1: celebrate the Kobe game. Oh so believable. He scored eleven

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Speaker 1: points in the last four minutes. They kept him in

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Speaker 1: the game. Here's JJ Reddick on what happened last night.

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Speaker 3: I'll have to watch the tape.

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Speaker 11: I mean, it's incredible what he was able to do.

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Speaker 11: They've been playing great basketball lately. And I said to

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Speaker 11: my coaching staff, the heater roling, and they all kind

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Speaker 11: of looked at each other and they're like, are you

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Speaker 11: kidding right now? I was like, no, what's up. They're like,

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Speaker 11: they're thirty six and twenty eight or whatever they are.

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Speaker 11: They're getting ready to be thirty seven and twenty eight,

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Speaker 11: and they're like, no, BAM has seventy seven. And I

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Speaker 11: was like, huh. And then I watched the last three

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Speaker 11: minutes and that was a different type of basketball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they doctored it up a little bit. It's okay,

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Speaker 1: But to me, eighty three is eighty three, you know it.

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Speaker 1: I just we do this all the time. People choose

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Speaker 1: what they like and they defend what they like. People

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Speaker 1: loved Kobe. Kobe could be a total ballhog. Kobe was

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Speaker 1: very difficult to play with. I mean I read that

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Speaker 1: Jeff Pearlman book, A Three Ring Circus. I mean it

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Speaker 1: was hard to like Kobe when you got that kind

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Speaker 1: of revelations and insight about Kobe Bryant the teammate, like

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Speaker 1: he wore every he wore Phil Jackson and shack out

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Speaker 1: other stars. So I think it's we just you know,

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Speaker 1: BAM's not a guy. I'm telling you right now, if

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Speaker 1: John Morant, who's half the player of BAM, got eighty three,

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Speaker 1: will everybody be celebrating tonight?

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Speaker 5: That would feel fitting. We just don't like that.

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Speaker 1: It's bam and I mean to get eighty three in basketball?

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Speaker 1: Who are we kidding here? You gotta be playing a

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Speaker 1: crappy team and things are getting doctored, you're taking shut,

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Speaker 1: you're staying in the game. That's a blowout. That's the

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Speaker 1: way it works, Joan, do you.

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Speaker 7: Think do you think that? Like, you know, there's a

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Speaker 7: lot of pushback online against this.

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Speaker 8: I wonder if that's authentic or people just realize, Hey,

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Speaker 8: that's the only way my comments can break through and

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Speaker 8: go viral is if I trash a guy scoring eighty

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Speaker 8: three points because I don't know, I'm seeing stuff like, oh,

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Speaker 8: the Miami heat culture is done.

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Speaker 7: I don't want to hear heat culture anymore.

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Speaker 8: Now heat culture is forcing eighty three points against a

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Speaker 8: tanking team with some subbing Bam back into the game,

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Speaker 8: and I don't know, people are really hammering the heat.

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Speaker 7: People are saying Eric Spolstraw, I don't want him. Oh,

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Speaker 7: it's people are losing their minds over this.

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Speaker 1: Well, people don't have much of a mind to begin with,

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Speaker 1: that they're losing their minds over this. Yeah, it has

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Speaker 1: sposed as a great coach and you know, it's it's

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Speaker 1: a moment against the tanking, terrible team of basically teenagers

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Speaker 1: and one year older than teenagers, and they kept Bam

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Speaker 1: in and he was getting to the free throw line,

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Speaker 1: and it's, uh.

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Speaker 7: If this were Anthony Edwards Colling, everybody.

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Speaker 1: Would still if this was Anthony Edwards who shot forty

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Speaker 1: three free throws, everybody would love it.

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Speaker 5: Today.

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Speaker 1: Everybody would think it was so cool because Ant's cool

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Speaker 1: and John or Ant's cool and BAM's just a quiet,

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Speaker 1: soft spoken, hard working defensive warrior, and they and he

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Speaker 1: doesn't fit what we want our eighty three points to

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Speaker 1: come from.

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Speaker 5: That's all this is.

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Speaker 8: And there's probably a little pushback. Well, Kobe's Kobe at

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Speaker 8: eighty one. We don't want anybody topping that. Obviously, Kobe

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Speaker 8: very well loved, you know, merch just an awesome human

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Speaker 8: being and career. And it's like, I don't people aren't

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Speaker 8: really in on Bam. He's like a center scoring eighty

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Speaker 8: three points, but shooting he's got twenty two to three pointers.

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Speaker 3: Collin.

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Speaker 7: Is that that's a little goofy?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think the stat line that's amazing

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Speaker 1: is he had thirty one points in the first quarter. Now,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's an all time record, it's

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Speaker 1: gotta be close. That is a ton of points. That's

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Speaker 1: basically that's a big night for Luca.

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Speaker 8: In twelve minutes for Lucas scored I think seventy or

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Speaker 8: seventy one in a game.

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Speaker 7: Devin Booker had over seventy eight.

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Speaker 1: Emple Re scored seventy one in a game. I guarantee

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Speaker 1: you he didn't play a lick of defense. Nobody cared, Hey.

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Speaker 8: Settle down bashing Luca. Somebody stepped up their defense with

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Speaker 8: Lebron out. I don't know if it was Luca, Reeves, Jackson, Hayes, Ruyatchimoa.

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Speaker 8: Lakers are playing defense against the Knicks and the Wolves

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Speaker 8: might be Luca. And by the way, now that we

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Speaker 8: know Luca's going through some stuff off the court, fam related,

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Speaker 8: I'm sure you saw that story, like, hey, maybe we

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Speaker 8: should settle down bashing him for yelling at the refs.

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Speaker 8: You know, dude, he got stuff going on at home.

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Speaker 8: You don't know he's taking it out on the riffs.

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Speaker 5: He's been yelling at the refs from his first day

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Speaker 5: in the league.

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Speaker 1: That's not a trouble at home now, I'm angry yelling

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Speaker 1: at the ref situation. I always think, like to me,

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Speaker 1: arguing with the refs is just it now is a

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Speaker 1: time consuming.

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Speaker 5: It's energy sapping.

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Speaker 1: Like anytime you argue with anybody, it's it's energy sapping.

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Speaker 1: It's like, Luca, you barely have enough energy to play defense?

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Speaker 5: What are you talking?

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Speaker 1: I mean, to be one thing, if he was a

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan could sometimes bark at the refs. But Jordan

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Speaker 1: was relentless. He'd play eighteen holes of golf. He was

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Speaker 1: great offensively, he was great defense. I mean, Michael had

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Speaker 1: weird energy, like beyond even like a great athlete energy.

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Speaker 1: I remember years ago when he played baseball and he

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Speaker 1: was in the South, like Birmingham, and he's wearing one

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Speaker 1: of those jackets in the South, taking bratting practice until

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Speaker 1: he had blisters on his hand because he was trying

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Speaker 1: and he had he had one of those dark jackets

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Speaker 1: on to lose weight. And I'm like, I couldn't be

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Speaker 1: outside for five minutes and it was ninety in the heat,

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Speaker 1: It's Alabama, and he's out there taking wax. So you know,

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Speaker 1: Jordan is one of those guys where you got it

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Speaker 1: on both ends. So I don't have a problem barking

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Speaker 1: at res. Luca plays no defense. It's like, bro, save

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Speaker 1: the very limited extra energy you have when you don't

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Speaker 1: have the ball to you know, man, A guy up.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're done, Albert Breer, thank you for stopping by.

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Speaker 1: Robert or as well. I've been reading the you know,

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Speaker 1: some of the free agents stuff today. It's backups, it's

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Speaker 1: rotational guys. It's a third corner, a second guard that