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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lollie. He is

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Speaker 2: being Matt Williamson. Is a chilly and snowy Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: I thought it might be done with that little briscot there.

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Speaker 2: The brisk yea up here on mart Olympus coming in

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Speaker 2: from the parking lot.

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Speaker 3: Not all that warm, but that's all right. It's what

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Speaker 3: we get middle of February.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, But Matt, a lot of Eagles talk and that

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Speaker 2: because they just won the Super Bowl, and I get it.

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Speaker 2: And I was doing some digging on some stuff, and

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Speaker 2: we've had some questions on on you know. Of course

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Speaker 2: we talked about the Super Bowl victory on Monday and

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Speaker 2: some questions. You know a lot of people were interested

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Speaker 2: in our opinion that the defensively the Steelers are not

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Speaker 2: that far.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I believe that to be true, right, I mean,

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Speaker 3: at least you can use the Eagles as a blueprint,

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Speaker 3: you know. I mean, and I think that the Steelers

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Speaker 3: started that two years ago.

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Speaker 2: I think, honestly, if you look at what they've been doing,

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Speaker 2: they're following the same blueprint. Right, Oh they are, they're

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Speaker 2: just farther behind right now.

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Speaker 3: They started started later, right, And that's the best team

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Speaker 3: in the league that just won the Super Bowl, right,

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Speaker 3: And you're putting yourself against the best of the best

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Speaker 3: right now.

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Speaker 2: Right because the amazing roster. A lot of what I

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Speaker 2: got was, well, they don't have Jalen Hurts. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: of course, and the offense isn't as good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that they don't Barkley. There's missing pieces. Yeah, question,

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Speaker 3: that's right.

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Speaker 2: What we said. I mean, even you know, defensively, I

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Speaker 2: people on the message board and on on social media, well,

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Speaker 2: Steelers defensive line isn't anywhere close to Philadelphia's. I saw

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Speaker 2: one or two. I'm just telling you that it is.

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Speaker 3: I think it is. And I'm including the edge guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm in the whole front, the front, Yes, I mean,

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Speaker 3: and I did see a couple of quotes maybe they

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Speaker 3: tweeted me directly. You know, the Steelers don't have the

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Speaker 3: d line depth of.

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Speaker 2: The correct I'm like, yeah, that, which is why we're

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Speaker 2: saying the draft defensive alignment.

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Speaker 3: Right, I mean, most of our marks we take it.

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Speaker 3: We always take one sometimes two so I think that's

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Speaker 3: something to be addressed, youth and depth, and you know,

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Speaker 3: the Eagles just keep replenishing that to their credit. But

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Speaker 3: the Steelers have the edge depth. I mean if you go

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Speaker 3: across the grount, but the the three hundred pounders they don't.

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Speaker 3: But in terms of what they're trotting out right now,

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Speaker 3: it's comparable absolutely.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at Pro Football Focus, and

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Speaker 2: everybody knows how field about Pro Football Focus is great,

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Speaker 2: but their rankings have the Steelers defensive front as number

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Speaker 2: as the number one defensive front in the league, not ours.

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Speaker 2: It's theirs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally impartial, right, So, Heyward Watt, high Smith,

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Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera, Ogan Joby's not a bad player,

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Speaker 3: Benton's not a bad player, right right, And if you

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Speaker 3: add one more piece there, okay, then you start to

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Speaker 3: you start to build that depth.

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Speaker 2: And here's the thing, if you.

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Speaker 3: Start again, this wasn't built in a day, folks, not

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Speaker 3: saying it's Apple's apples.

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Speaker 2: If you start to look at the Eagles rafts, now,

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Speaker 2: if you go back twenty nineteen draft, their first round

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Speaker 2: draft pick was Andre Dillard.

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Speaker 3: Which was a major mistake. It was a major miss yep.

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Speaker 2: They also took jj R Sega white Side in the

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Speaker 2: second rounde dress, Now, they took Miles They had two

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Speaker 2: second round picks a year, and he took Miles Sanders

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 3: They got a fair amount out of him.

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Speaker 2: That's fine, you know, right, but the Steelers have gotten

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Speaker 2: more out of Nause Harris. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean he's a better player than Miles Sanders.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty, they took Jalen Rager in the first round.

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Speaker 3: Instead of Jefferson, instead of Yeah, and even on I

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Speaker 3: remember the day, now, I kind of liked Gregor too.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it wasn't egregious, it wasn't an insane move.

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Speaker 3: But I do remember Eagles Nation going, oh, I refer

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Speaker 3: Jefferson like it. I'm sure it was a conversation. And

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Speaker 3: then he went the next pick. And imagine if they

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Speaker 3: would think in.

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Speaker 2: A great wide receiver, a great wide receiver, and you

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Speaker 2: didn't get one, right, but you tried.

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Speaker 3: You tried, right. They tried for a while Sega Whiteside,

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Speaker 3: and then they eve actually trade for a J Brown

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Speaker 2: Receivers, right, they also then took that's when they got

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts in the second round in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: And that paid off in a lot of ways, not

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Speaker 3: just because he's good now, but they got stuff back

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Speaker 3: for Hurtfield Wentz.

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Speaker 2: You know, when they really started to build this roster

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Speaker 2: and actually really started to get good good was in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. They took Devonte Smith at ten. They

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Speaker 2: had a tenth overall pick, remember, so they were.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they were not a great team at that point, right.

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Speaker 2: They then took Landon Dickerson at thirty seven, another hit, right,

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Speaker 2: Milton Williams at pick seventy three.

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Speaker 3: Which to their credit, this is another sidebar, and I

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Speaker 3: think it's something that I'm going to stress a lot

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Speaker 3: with Steeler D line pick. Any one of the defensive

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Speaker 3: front edge D line three technique knows whatever draft traits.

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Speaker 3: That's one thing this team's really really good at. Milton

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Speaker 3: Williams was far from a well rounded prop event at

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Speaker 3: that point, and even at this point for him, this

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Speaker 3: was really the.

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Speaker 2: First year that he oh he blew up this season.

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Speaker 2: He has eleven and a half career sacks. Yeah 's

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Speaker 2: not pretend he came in with Stefan twit or something.

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Speaker 3: No, he was a great combine player a little undersized.

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Speaker 3: You get that guy at the end of round three

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Speaker 3: as opposed to round one, and it takes a little

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Speaker 3: bit of time. So there's a lot of draft and

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Speaker 3: develop especially with their D linemen. Yeah, and I'm all

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Speaker 3: for that draft draft traits on D line.

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Speaker 2: They took Kenneth Game on the fifth round that year, obviously, fine, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's been a fine yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, backup, I'm still with them.

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Speaker 2: You know, guy, you look at twenty twenty two or

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Speaker 2: Jordan Davis in the first round, Cam Jurden, it's not even.

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Speaker 3: A huge hit. No, I mean, he's the worst of

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Speaker 3: their D tackles. He's been getting better, but he's not

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Speaker 3: a slammed.

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Speaker 2: Do BET's a better player than Jordan Davis, Right, Like,

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Speaker 2: I was a big Davis for the Steelers guy at

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Speaker 2: the time, and I'm glad they didn't take them. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Cam Jurgens in round two. Okay, I give them credit.

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Speaker 2: One thing they're really good at is Ers is going

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Speaker 2: to be leaving. Let's take God or Kelsey's going to

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Speaker 2: be leaving. Let's take Jurgons. They're really good at finding

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Speaker 2: the next guy. But he sat a year. Yeah, the

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Speaker 2: Kobe Dean in round three.

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Speaker 3: That's paid off until he got hurt. But but this

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Speaker 3: rookie year was rough. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Then they had two sixth round picks. They took Kyaren

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Speaker 2: Johnson and Grant Calcaterra. Twenty twenty three, they took Jalen

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Speaker 2: Carter at nine, and if he hadn't had the off

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Speaker 2: the field stuff, he's never been there. He doesn't last

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Speaker 2: at nine. No, I mean, that's a risky pick at

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Speaker 2: the time, but it's also trusting your organization to manage him,

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Speaker 2: you know, and that's worked out tremendously. They had two

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Speaker 2: first round picks that year. They took Nolan Smith at thirty.

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Speaker 3: This is the Georgia onslaught.

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Speaker 2: Yeah here right, Tyler Steen in their third round, Sydney

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Speaker 2: Brown in the third round, Kaylee Ringo in the fourth round.

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Speaker 3: More Georgia. But those those mid round picks are okay,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Tanner McKee and then Moro Jomo.

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Speaker 3: Jomo's a nice pick for you. He's another separate CD

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Speaker 3: lineman that's gonna probably take over for Williams next year.

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Speaker 2: And then you look at this one, Quinna Mitchell Cooper,

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Speaker 2: dejan Jlyx Hunt in the third round, will Shipley and

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Speaker 2: Nia Smith, Jeremiah Trotter. I mean, but they've hit on

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Speaker 2: some It's like four straight drafts where they've hit on

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Speaker 2: their early picks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, which brings me to

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Speaker 2: the Steelers. I don't think anybody could argue the last

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Speaker 2: couple of drafts that the Steelers haven't hit on their

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Speaker 2: first their their day to their first day, two days

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Speaker 2: of the draft picks.

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Speaker 3: Roder Jones is the only question. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 3: say he's a bust, That's not what I'm saying at all.

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Speaker 3: But was he worth trading up for? Was that a

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Speaker 3: great pick? To be determined, But it's not looking wonderful

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Speaker 3: at the moment, you know, right.

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Speaker 2: But you also look at, as we said, a couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks ago, you know, the Giants fans would have

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Speaker 2: told you that, what's this their left tackle, Thomas Thomas, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: was a bust after two years also from Georgia, Right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean sometimes it takes those guys a little bit

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Speaker 2: of time. And Roder Jones is still twenty three years old.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, I don't think they're the books that written

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Speaker 3: right right, right, that's not that's not over yet, right,

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Speaker 3: But that draft overall was very good yeah.

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Speaker 2: But if you can string some drafts like that together,

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Speaker 2: that is how you create that depth. You create a

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Speaker 2: team that is potential super Bowl team.

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Speaker 3: Three good drafts in a row is really hard to

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Speaker 3: pull off, and I think the Steelers have a chance

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Speaker 3: to do it. I mean, that would be all three

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Speaker 3: of Omar's drafts, you know. I mean this past one,

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Speaker 3: you didn't see the rookie tackle. Obviously, there was several

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Speaker 3: players Lee Watt, Watts, Wilson that you didn't get anything from.

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Speaker 3: They didn't get a ton of rookie snaps. But I

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Speaker 3: still think it's a promising class. Yeah, and if you

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Speaker 3: can do a third one, that's a cheap foundation that

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Speaker 3: almost raises the whole organization's floor.

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Speaker 2: Well, like, so we're already getting people calling Troy Fatanu

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Speaker 2: a bust.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy, it's got hurt.

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Speaker 2: It's insane, he got hurt. Yeah, yeah, and I don't

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Speaker 2: you know, well, they should have drafted Quinya Mitchell.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's a lot of Monday morning quarterbacking. But right here,

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Speaker 3: here's the thing. If you don't take Troy Foo'tano's last year,

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Speaker 3: you're drafting an offensive tackle in the first round this year.

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Speaker 3: Because you're not resigning Dan Moore. Oh yeah, there's no

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Speaker 3: question about it.

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Speaker 2: You would need an offensive tackle and this is not

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Speaker 2: a Tackles are hard to find. A corner and it's

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Speaker 2: not a great offensive tackle draft.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I'd rather be in the corner market than

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Speaker 3: the tackle market. Yeah right now. And they didn't know

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Speaker 3: that at the time, but folks, they liked Mitchell and

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Speaker 3: they liked the.

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Speaker 2: They probably had an ankling, like there are like six tackles,

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Speaker 2: So you knew last year it's a load. This is

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Speaker 2: a loaded tackle draft. We better take one. It's a

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Speaker 2: loaded defensive tackle draft. You might want to take one. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you swim in the deep waters obviously.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I know they liked Mitchell. I know they liked

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Speaker 3: Dejeene right, And as great as those two are, I

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Speaker 3: don't know that, even knowing what I know now watching

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Speaker 2: That line all got old at the same time. It's right,

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Speaker 2: But you just used five picks on them. But two

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Speaker 3: They don't need one in the third round. They did anyway,

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Speaker 3: Tyler Steen was that pick for them. Great, No, but

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Speaker 2: One he steps in. So I mean, if you look

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Speaker 2: In the fourth round you got Mason McCormick. Again, looks

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Speaker 3: That's great. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Last year. Roderick Jones, Okay, well we just talked about it.

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Speaker 3: It's similar to the Mitchell pick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Darnell Washington, that's a that's a hit. Nate herbig

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Speaker 3: See, that's such an Eagles pick though, I mean a

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's if it hits, it's gonna hit big.

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Speaker 3: If it doesn't, it doesn't cost you anything.

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Speaker 2: Spencer Anderson's kind of the same thing, Like he's just

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Speaker 3: You're gonna get forty years out of him a minimum,

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean, if you know late round pick.

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Speaker 3: A make or break year for him. It's a pivotal year.

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Speaker 2: Calvin Austin's a useful you know. You could say what

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Speaker 3: That's not that's not that's what you got four good

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, pat Freyermouth was not. No, they've so

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Speaker 2: they're but they're the last two drafts in particular, those

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Speaker 2: you put a third one together. As you said, now

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Speaker 2: you're you're one step closer to building that roster depth

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Speaker 3: And some of your cap space opens up because you

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Speaker 3: I Mean, this was a really good off season for them,

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Speaker 3: they were for fortunate because they have so many invested

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing about those kind of signings, though, at

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Speaker 2: the Eagles have done is kind of played. They've played

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Speaker 2: the voidable year game, oh like no one else, like

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Speaker 2: nobody else. So for example, in twenty twenty eight. This

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Speaker 3: Right, they had even Jalen Carter might not be part

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Speaker 2: But they've got nineteen players under contract or cost that

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Speaker 2: But most of those all but one, two, three, four,

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Speaker 2: So you're not going to have them right right, They're

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Speaker 2: not going They're not going to be party, including Josh Sweat,

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Speaker 3: Oh Josh, what's not even be the team next year?

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Speaker 2: It gets even worse than twenty twenty nine. In twenty

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Speaker 3: Wow, which still should be fine those two. Who knows,

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Speaker 3: that's still five years from now. My lot is base

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Speaker 2: Right, So the other the other eleven players that are

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Speaker 2: They're they're they're not under contract, they're just in a campaign.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: It's two hundred and forty two million dollars. Wow, that's

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's not going to go up that much.

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Speaker 3: It's going to go up, and they're definitely counting on

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Speaker 2: Like this cap number in twenty twenty nine is ninety

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. One of the advantages they have is

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Speaker 3: you still can't cheat the cap, which is kind of

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Speaker 3: some point we're paying it out of pocket. Ye, they're

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Speaker 2: At some points you become the Saints, right, It's funny,

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Speaker 3: I looked at the Saints contracts today. It's almost Browns, Like,

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Speaker 3: Like all their pre June first cuts don't even do

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Speaker 3: The fact that they've kept their head above water this

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Speaker 3: it this year, Spencer Ratler year. Yeah, because they got

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Speaker 2: They're not going to fire the new coach after one season, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, they've got three or four dudes led by

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Speaker 3: those dudes are super old.

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Speaker 2: It's like, the problem isn't you have to be captain

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Speaker 3: And it's a small deal. But they extended Kamara with

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Speaker 3: all these voidable years too, Like what are you doing?

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's the end of his road too.

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Speaker 2: And folks, the Steelers do use voidable years, yeah, but

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Speaker 3: Reason any five years from now is not young by

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Speaker 2: But he's not under contract for your team, and he's

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Speaker 3: Seven million, right, I mean, insane numbers. That's to Sean

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Speaker 3: Watson like stuff right now with them, not with the Browns,

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Speaker 3: not with the Saints. It's fine if you get a ring.

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Speaker 3: I don't care what it costs you. I very much

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Speaker 3: believe that. Like I used to have this conversation a

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Speaker 3: you accomplish your goal. That's a special thing. The Bucks

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Speaker 3: better get one. If you push all your chips in

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Speaker 3: four to five teams, don't. I mean, like Miami's in

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Speaker 3: the midst of that right now. They're a disaster all

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Speaker 3: Breeze Browns with Watson, Like those teams aren't winning Super

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Speaker 3: Bowls and they're gonna lose bad on this deal, you know.

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Speaker 2: pay them too or let them go.

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Speaker 3: I forget who I was listening to, but they were

435
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Speaker 3: kind of touching on this with the Eagles, you know,

436
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Speaker 3: like kind of what's next big picture, like it might not,

437
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Speaker 3: it won't happen this year. This year they're gonna make

438
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Speaker 3: another run for the Super Bowl, as they absolutely should

439
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: The problem is, I mean, they don't they don't have

441
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Speaker 2: a lot of CA space, go eighteen million in cap space,

442
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Speaker 2: and they can't kick the can down the road anymore

443
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Speaker 2: than they already have.

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Speaker 3: But whoever brought it up basically said, it wouldn't be crazy.

445
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Speaker 3: You got your ring. What if you shop d aj

446
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,320
Speaker 3: Brown right now? You know what I mean, You recoup

447
00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,479
Speaker 3: a first round pick, you save all this cap space.

448
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Speaker 3: It wouldn't be crazy. They won't do it this year,

449
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Speaker 3: but they might do it three and sixty five days

450
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Speaker 3: from now, you know what I mean, And good for them.

451
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Speaker 3: Then you start over and you get a bunch of

452
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Speaker 3: picks and we'll see you, and you got a trophy

453
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Speaker 3: in your in your lobby. You know that's great. But

454
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Speaker 3: most teams, when you kick them kick everything in, there's

455
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Speaker 3: also a chance you lose, right, And the Jets are

456
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Speaker 3: an interesting one too. You start looking at their contracts.

457
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Speaker 3: It's like they don't have a quarterback and Adams is

458
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Speaker 3: going to be gone, and you know you got to

459
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Speaker 3: pay Sauce and Wilson and Hall and all these other dudes,

460
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Speaker 3: assuming they want to stay, assuming they want to stay,

461
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Speaker 3: you know, just Quinn Williams who's a little older, and

462
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Speaker 3: those guys say I'm gonna stick around for this or

463
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Speaker 3: am I gonna do the Miles game move and be like,

464
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Speaker 3: we just wess this three games.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to win three games, right right, right?

466
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Speaker 3: We just won three games with Rogers. Who I mean,

467
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Speaker 3: we're gonna win with Tyrod Taylor or fourth round pick,

468
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Speaker 3: so I can be a better roster. But both our

469
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Speaker 3: tackles are leaving.

470
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Speaker 2: In New York, and I gotta ask. I got to

471
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Speaker 2: phase two hundred and fifty. Media people every day ask me, hey,

472
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Speaker 2: why do you guys stink?

473
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Speaker 3: Why do you guys stink all the time? Right right?

474
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Speaker 3: Why it's not getting better? It least off.

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Speaker 2: When that's why, you know, when people say the Steelers

476
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Speaker 2: are a joke or the Steelers are the worst this

477
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Speaker 2: or that, and people wonder why, I get, why do

478
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Speaker 2: you defend that? Because they're not No, they're not not

479
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Speaker 2: even close, right right.

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Speaker 3: I mean there are two ways of thinking. And some

481
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Speaker 3: fan bases are fine with this. You know, if I

482
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Speaker 3: actually hit that number one out of thirty two, okay,

483
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Speaker 3: But if you keep coming in third, sixth thirty two,

484
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Speaker 3: thirty thirty one, yeah, seventeen ten, you know that's rough.

485
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Speaker 3: That's rough. I mean some fan bases and I'm sure

486
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Speaker 3: some listeners like I'll take it. I've seen the same

487
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Speaker 3: thing here over and over. I'll take the peaks and

488
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Speaker 3: valleys even.

489
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Speaker 2: Had any values. Yeah, you have ever been through the

490
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Speaker 2: valley that you haven't seen what that looks like and

491
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Speaker 2: how ugly that can get.

492
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Speaker 3: That's a long couple months. Man, you want people getting fired.

493
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Speaker 3: That's when people get fired. Oh and even just you know,

494
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Speaker 3: to stop going to games and wearing bags on your heads.

495
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Speaker 3: I mean, be the Giants for a while. I mean

496
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Speaker 3: it's bad. Be the Jags for a while where you're

497
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Speaker 3: always picking at the top. Yeah.

498
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Speaker 2: Not fun, No, it's not not fun. But that's why

499
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Speaker 2: when we talk, why we spend so much time talking

500
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Speaker 2: about the draft and diving into the draft because it

501
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Speaker 2: is that important.

502
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Speaker 3: Oh, it's that important, yeah, you know.

503
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Speaker 2: And so you know, just this just drives at home

504
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Speaker 2: even more. So you want to be that team. You

505
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Speaker 2: want to be that team that's at the top of

506
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Speaker 2: the food chain right now, Yeah, keep going on the

507
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Speaker 2: same path that you're that you're working on.

508
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Speaker 3: Don't deviate from it, no, right, and you got to

509
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Speaker 3: evaluate talent. Well, of course, you can't miss on big picks,

510
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,159
Speaker 3: so obviously that's true for all teams. But even like

511
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Speaker 3: the Chiefs are interesting right now, if you've been pull

512
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Speaker 3: up draftistory dot com, Chiefs and just look at their

513
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Speaker 3: offensive picks. It's not very good, you know. I mean

514
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Speaker 3: it's trusting an elite quarterback to elevate not so good

515
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Speaker 3: tackles and Clyde Edwards, Hilaire and Michel Hardman.

516
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Speaker 2: You know, it's tough when you're picking that far down

517
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Speaker 2: in the first round. Everybody, right, everybody can pick the

518
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Speaker 2: first ten picks. We were working on our looking at

519
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Speaker 2: our our mock drafts from last year that we did

520
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Speaker 2: on the Triple Take, and I called it up to them, like, oh,

521
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Speaker 2: we got the first seven picks, right, we got you know,

522
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Speaker 2: nine of the first you know, we didn't miss it

523
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Speaker 2: a guy. We didn't take a guy who didn't get

524
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Speaker 2: drafted in the first round until pick twenty three, and

525
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Speaker 2: that was Cooper degen Sure. It was the thirty fifth

526
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Speaker 2: pick in and he's a star. Yeah right right, But

527
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Speaker 2: you know everybody can do that. But when you're picking

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Speaker 2: at the end of that first round, like, that's where

529
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Speaker 2: it gets tough.

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Speaker 3: Like back to the Chiefs real quick. That's when you

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Speaker 3: overpay for Juwan Taylor. Yeah, that's when you trade for

532
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Speaker 3: Orlando Brown because tackles don't exist at thirty one.

533
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Speaker 2: Taylor's like a twenty five million dollar cap hit.

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Speaker 3: Next, right, I mean he is bad. Orlando Brown is

535
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 3: a bad trade for them too. They gave up a

536
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Speaker 3: lot for him because you can't draft see him at

537
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Speaker 3: sue him at THEA and hope he hits because he's

538
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Speaker 3: terrible as a rookie.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's what the kys you get right, takes time.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Steelers fall respect to Mack Starks. He's a

542
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Speaker 3: third round pick, you know, and he's one of the

543
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Speaker 3: best ones they hit on. The Patriots didn't have elite tackles.

544
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Speaker 3: You know, what do I do with tackle many caps

545
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Speaker 3: based on how many draft picks? Well, you're in trouble

546
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Speaker 3: with that. They don't grow on trees.

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Speaker 2: Anyways, let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here

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Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I will be

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Speaker 2: back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold car Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is the Matt

555
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Speaker 2: Williamson and this is a drive on the Steelers Audio

556
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Speaker 2: Network and Matt Field Yates has put together his first

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Speaker 2: mark of the year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I thought we'd buzzed through this one. It's

560
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Speaker 2: a little interesting.

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Speaker 3: It is a little interesting. Field's a good dude. We

562
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Speaker 3: overlapped at ESPN and he's getting more and more with

563
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Speaker 3: their draft stuff.

564
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Speaker 2: I do have to question his Steeler picking this draft.

565
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Speaker 3: I saw it.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to happen, but right, but

567
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Speaker 2: it's worth Yeah, I like to see all angles, you know. Right,

568
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Speaker 2: So he has the Titans taking Travis Hunter at one.

569
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Speaker 3: I get the impression they're not going to go quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure that Sanders and Ward go in the

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Speaker 3: top two.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing, though, I think somebody will trade up

573
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Speaker 2: into that spot.

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Speaker 3: The Giants keep coming to mind. It's not that far

575
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Speaker 3: to go. They're desperate. It's they're returning the same staff. Yeah,

576
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Speaker 3: go get your quarterback. We'll give it one more run.

577
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Speaker 3: Maybe the Raiders, you know, somebody like that, somebody in

578
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Speaker 3: the top ten. I tend to think the Titans won't

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Speaker 3: pick at number one. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: At two, they had the Browns taking Abdull Carter, the

581
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Speaker 2: edge rusher out of Penn State.

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Speaker 3: Okay. I mean there's just a case that they're the

583
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Speaker 3: best two players in the draft.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Browns was just going to kick the

585
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Speaker 2: can down the road and we'll get it.

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Speaker 3: I would do Yeah. I mean I truly think they're

587
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 3: trying to win zero games this year. They might and

588
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Speaker 3: they if they.

589
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Speaker 2: Had to start Dorian Thompson Robinson all season long.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think the Saints are similar.

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Speaker 2: The Giants and take cam Ward at three. I think

592
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Speaker 2: I think in this scenario they would trade up to

593
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Speaker 2: make sure that they get him.

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Speaker 3: The other thing I think about this draft, the more

595
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Speaker 3: I analyze it is to go from three to one

596
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 3: is cheaper this year than it was other years. Yeah,

597
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 3: we'll give you a two or you know, a future

598
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 3: of something. You know, but it's not going to be backbreaking.

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Speaker 2: At four, the Titan or the Patriots take Will Campbell.

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Speaker 3: Fine with that. I mean everyone says he's the best

601
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Speaker 3: lineman in the draft, but it might not even be

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Speaker 3: a tackle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you do it. I mean they need line across

604
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Speaker 2: the board. No bad, right, you got to protect Drake

605
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Speaker 2: may I know, but I just wish that was John

606
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 2: and Ogden. He got the snot beat out of them

607
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 2: this year.

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00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. When we talked about this

610
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: not being a great tackle draft, this is.

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Speaker 3: Proof proof, right and it's really not a top ten

612
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 3: overall draft. Yeah all that. I'm not that's that excited about.

613
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: Jacksonville then takes Mason Graham, defensive tackle on to Michigan.

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Speaker 3: It seems kind of choky at this point, but I

615
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 3: totally get it. I mean, that would be you'd be

616
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 3: done with your D line and that's a good place

617
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 3: to start. At six, he has the Raiders take quick.

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Speaker 3: We talked about this through the Steeler lens, but I'm

619
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Speaker 3: not so sure. Thirty other teams aren't going to watch

620
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Speaker 3: that Super Bowl and be like, should I go D

621
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Speaker 3: line or corner D line? D line? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Well, and not even that. Like the reason why their

623
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Speaker 2: D line was able to get home and create so

624
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Speaker 2: much pressures because the cornerbacks played well.

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Speaker 3: If it was last year's corners, that would have been

626
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 3: so much different. Yeah, And I thought the Chiefs receivers,

627
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 3: including Kelsey, were exposed because they were get open quest.

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Speaker 2: I was asked that question on our YouTube channel. Why

629
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Speaker 2: weren't the Steelers able to do that against the Chiefs.

630
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Speaker 2: If you remember, Joey Porter Junior didn't play when they played.

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Speaker 3: The chief Yeah, Mahomes got it out quick, and they'll

632
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 3: have your best cover corner right right. And again that's

633
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 3: really furthers the need for a second cover corner to me.

634
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 3: But two of those guys maybe gods different, you know,

635
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 3: at least making them hold of all.

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Speaker 2: At sixty as the Raiders taking Shadoor Sanders, all right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, this must be a different draft than the

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Speaker 2: one I saw.

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00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 3: I sent you one. What was that?

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Speaker 2: Maybe you sent me one? And that one had the

641
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 2: Steelers taking Shadoor Sanders at twenty I was trying to

642
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 2: think where they got that from. You see so many

643
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 2: of these things, right, I know, I I don't. It

644
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 2: was somebody I liked, and I couldn't. I couldn't believe

645
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 2: Sanders ended up with Pittsburgh at twenty one. That's not

646
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Speaker 2: going to happen. No, that was the one I was thinking.

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00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, me too.

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Speaker 2: At seven, the Jets take mikel Williams. He had rusher

649
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Speaker 2: out of Georgia.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like he's really gaining steam. That's pretty much the

651
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Speaker 3: clear number two edge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. At eight, the Panthers take Jayalen Walker had drusher

653
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 2: out of Georgia. Okay, the Jets are a sneaky team

654
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: that will be in I don't.

655
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 3: Know what they're gonna do. Well, are they gonna will

656
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 3: view this season? Go get a quarterback, Maybe try to

657
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 3: bring Sanders to New York.

658
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I could see them moving.

659
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:09,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah to go.

660
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 2: Hey, look we tried the old guy. Let's go get.

661
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 3: Because a guy. They have cap space issues, but they're

662
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 3: not like the Browns and Saints where they don't have

663
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 3: a corp still and they still have good players that

664
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 3: are young and in their prime. You're not going to

665
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 3: trade all those guys right.

666
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: At nine, the SATs Saints take tedor Roe McMillan, the

667
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: wide receiver out of Arizona.

668
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 3: They go any direction.

669
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: At ten, the Bears take Calvin Banks Junior, the offensive

670
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: tackle out of Texas.

671
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 3: He's fine.

672
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 2: The forty nine Ers then take Josh Simmons, the offensive

673
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 2: tackle out of Ohio State.

674
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 3: I think he's the one that's going to get start

675
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 3: to get pushed up. Yeah, assuming his medicals go well

676
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 3: in Indy, which I have no reason to assume that.

677
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: But he's a tackle. Yeah, and they get drafted.

678
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

679
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 2: At twelve, the Dallas Cowboys take Will Johnson.

680
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 3: Pretty good value there. They have or needs than you'd

681
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 3: think too. Yeah.

682
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 2: At thirteen, the Dolphins stake Tyler Booker, the guard out

683
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: of Alabama. Still, that's again early for a guard.

684
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 3: That's why I think the top of the draft's not

685
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 3: that good, that all these people are mocking guards in

686
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 3: the top fifteen or so.

687
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 2: Fourteen, the Colt steak Tyler Warren, the tight end out

688
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: of Penn State.

689
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 3: I can see him going higher than that too. I mean,

690
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 3: kind of like Bowers last year. There's a lot of

691
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 3: landing spots where just give me the best football slayer

692
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 3: weapon right right.

693
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 2: At fifteen, the Falcon steak Mike Green, the edge rusher

694
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 2: out of.

695
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 3: Marshall cuts and search for pass rush in Atlanta.

696
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 2: At sixteen, Arizona takes Shamar Stewart, the edge rusher out

697
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 2: of Texas A and M you.

698
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 3: Think he goes higher, I mean just traits or the

699
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 3: Turkey darn impressed pretty good.

700
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they did take Darius Robinson.

701
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, they just start to build some athletes with length,

702
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 3: and you know it would be the start of a

703
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 3: good front.

704
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 2: At seventeen, the Cincinnati Bengals take Walter Nolan out of Omans.

705
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 3: I would think they'd be after more of a heavier

706
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 3: D tackle, but any D line, I mean anything on defense.

707
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 2: We're you know, one of these long, tall defensive ends

708
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 2: in their style. At eighteen, the Seahawks take Armand Membo,

709
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: the offensive lineman from Missouri.

710
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably a guard, but they need it.

711
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: At nineteen, the Buccaneers take James Pierce Junior, the edge rusher,

712
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: out of Tennessee.

713
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 3: Linebackers also a big need for them, but that picks

714
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 3: almost definitely going to be.

715
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 2: Def get linebackers later. At twenty, the Broncos take Ashton Genty,

716
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 2: running back at the Boys.

717
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 3: I think that's his floor. Yeah, I think Chicago's sneaky

718
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 3: for him. Everyone talks about Dallas. I think Dallas has

719
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 3: too many other needs. Like in the fantasy world, I'd

720
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 3: love him to be a Bronco. I mean, that's a

721
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 3: great spot for him.

722
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. Somebody asked me, would you trade up to go

723
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 2: get Ashton Genty? I'm not trading up for running back.

724
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 3: Running Yeah, I mean, even if it's Bijeon or Barkley,

725
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 3: you can't.

726
00:31:55,640 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 2: At twenty one, field Yates I just want to make

727
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 2: this clear field. Yates has the Steelers taking Jackson Dark

728
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 2: quarterback out of Ole, miss Mmm.

729
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 3: I know that he's here in buzz like everybody darts

730
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 3: now in the first round. I have a problem with that, though,

731
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 3: I have. Maybe I'll change my tune and watch him

732
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 3: more and say he could be the answer. Then fine,

733
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 3: I just don't look at it and think that's the

734
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 3: answer to compete with Burrow and Lamar.

735
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: I don't feel that way either. I think he has traits, yeah, yeah,

736
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: but not extreme traits.

737
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, like if I had Josh Allen traits

738
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 3: and you're, you know, really raw. Okay, I'll buy that,

739
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 3: But I'm not passing on a d lineman or corner

740
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 3: or something with that pick.

741
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. At twenty two, the Chargers take Colston Loveland. They

742
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 2: tight end out of Michigan.

743
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 3: Pretty chocky for the twenty second pick too, I mean

744
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:53,719
Speaker 3: the Michigan connection.

745
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: At twenty three, the Packers take Maxwell Hairston, the cornerback

746
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: out of Kentucky.

747
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 3: Me and him getting him in the second round in yesterday. Yeah,

748
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 3: there's a lot of those corners that need to a

749
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 3: lot of it has to do with you know, Revel

750
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 3: and Benjamin and those guys healthier not right, you know,

751
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 3: they ahead of him or not?

752
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: Who knows, Yeah, well know more maybe by the combine

753
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: medical stuff.

754
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

755
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 2: At twenty four, the Vikings take Derek Harmon, the defense

756
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: will tackle out of Oregon.

757
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 3: Okay.

758
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 2: At twenty five, the Texans take Luther Burden, wide receiver

759
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: out of Missouri. That's only the second wide receiver receivers. Yeah,

760
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: it's a weird receiver year. Yeah, I mean even last year.

761
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 3: I was analyzing the mock we did with Pursuda and

762
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 3: just kind of remembering what we were thinking at the

763
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 3: time and things like that. I mean, there was a

764
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 3: big run of receivers in those late playoff teams.

765
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 2: You know.

766
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 3: That's like when Keon Coleman and Piersoll and Conki and

767
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 3: those expense and Yeah, I wonder if that's when you'll

768
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 3: see golden and a bouquet and those guys coming off

769
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 3: of the board. Finally, I don't know.

770
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: At twenty six, the Rams take Josh Connerley, the offensive

771
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 2: tackle out of Oregon left tackles free agent. Twenty seven,

772
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 2: the Ravens take Malachi Starks, the safety out of Georgia.

773
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 3: I don't know if there'll be a four to do that.

774
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 3: That's such a Hamilton like pick.

775
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 2: But who's playing you off on your offense?

776
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 3: You're gonna lose an offensive lineman or two. I don't

777
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 3: know that you can be taking another safety, but it's

778
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 3: a Ravens like pick.

779
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody's gonna play your offensive line though. At twenty eight,

780
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: the Lions state Greysabel, the offensive lineman from North Dakota State.

781
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,439
Speaker 3: I guess Zeitler's up. I mean, I wouldn't think about

782
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 3: o line with them, but you keep a strength of strength.

783
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 3: That's fine.

784
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 2: At twenty nine, the Commanders take Egbuka, the wide receiver

785
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:36,959
Speaker 2: from Ohio State.

786
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 3: Their receivers other than McLaurin are really light. I mean

787
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 3: they have Mconkeye, but he didn't do anything as a rookie. Yeah.

788
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 2: At thirty the Bills take Kenneth Grant, defensive tackle out

789
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 2: of Michigan.

790
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean they have a lot of finesse d

791
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 3: linemen up the field. Guys, they could use some beef.

792
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, they weren't great against the run.

793
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 3: Now. No.

794
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 2: Thirty one, Kansas City takes Donovan Jackson, the offensive tackle

795
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: out of Ohio State guard offensive time.

796
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 3: I would think it's and they could be either for him,

797
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 3: could be either. It might be Trey Smith's replacement. That

798
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 3: might be your left or right tackle. Yeah, and I

799
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 3: don't think it's gonna be a heavy offensive off season

800
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 3: for Kansasity.

801
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 2: Thirty two, Philadelphia takes Ghud Campbell as a linebacker out

802
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: of Alabama.

803
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 3: I don't think they'll do that.

804
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: I don't think they will either.

805
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 3: I mean, if they lost Bond, they that's just philosophically

806
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 3: against what they believe in. They will not take over

807
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 3: the linebacker in the first In the first round, I

808
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 3: bet it's a D lineman because you're gonna lose Williams

809
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 3: or Sweat. I know Bond's up as well, but they'll

810
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 3: value the D lineman.

811
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 2: Even an offensive lineman. Yeah, yeah, you know, you can

812
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: always up. Yeah, you know, right, So you know, if

813
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 2: that were the case and the Steelers were targeting Jackson

814
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 2: Dart trying to get him on the dark, yeah yeah, bulls,

815
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: you trade down well Yeah.

816
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 3: I mean I have a hard time taking them at

817
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 3: twenty one. I mean you have to be really sold

818
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 3: if that's a special player. And maybe I'll change my

819
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 3: tune between now and April, but just because the Senior

820
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,919
Speaker 3: Bowl was pretty good, doesn't make Yeah, I mean it's

821
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 3: by default in a way. I feel like he's third

822
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 3: by default kind of. Yeah, yeah, it's fine, but definitely

823
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 3: would be a first runner last year, no chance.

824
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 2: Yeah right, I don't know he'd be a first runner

825
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 2: next year.

826
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 3: Who would you have taken instead in that situation? Baron,

827
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 3: he didn't go, Grant, who didn't go?

828
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, John A. Barron's there? Yeah, like him a lot? Grant?

829
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 3: Would it? Would it employed the receivers?

830
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, you had to pick there at that point, give

831
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: him what was off the board. I'd probably take Grant.

832
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Grant would have been my pick over Baron,

833
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 3: just because he's three hundred plus pounds.

834
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 2: You know, right, Yeah, give me the give me the

835
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 2: big guy.

836
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, he could pretty much complete your D line. Yeah, yeah,

837
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 3: that's probably what my pick too. Yeah, you'd have a

838
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 3: hard time convinced we take Art there at least today,

839
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 3: maybe three weeks from now, I'll be like, okay and

840
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 3: warm it up to him.

841
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to see him, like, let's see him

842
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 2: throw against the guys at the combine. See how that looks.

843
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: Let's see how any of these.

844
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 3: Special trades I see good plus trades. I don't see

845
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 3: special trade.

846
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's more to me of a second round guy.

847
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: I can't see taking him at twenty one.

848
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 3: Right, right, just because just because you need a quarterback. Yeah,

849
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 3: that's bad business.

850
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 2: Like if you wanted to even trade up in the

851
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 2: second round to make sure that you got him, if

852
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 2: you loved him.

853
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Okay, that's a real different that's a totally

854
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 3: different world, grant, And then you traded up and gave

855
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 3: up a future decent pick. Okay, I see taking that

856
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 3: bite of the apple. That's like trading up for Levis. Yeah,

857
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 3: it didn't work necessarily for the Titans, but that's not

858
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 3: a terrible process and they can get out of that.

859
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 2: And Jalen Hurts was a second round draft yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

860
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 2: but I'm not spending a first round draft pick again

861
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: within a four year period of each other on a

862
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 2: guy that I'm might not be the guy.

863
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 3: And that point two. You you definitely gave somebody money

864
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 3: going into that draft too, you know you're not you're

865
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 3: not necessarily even getting the cheap quarterback room for a

866
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 3: year or two. Yeah, Fields of Wilson's not gonna sign

867
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 3: a one year deal, right.

868
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 2: You know you're gonna sign him to at least a

869
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 2: two and you know, and see where it goes. But

870
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 2: you're gonna give yourself some flexibility here. And I don't

871
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: know that you take that bite out of the apple

872
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 2: in this particular draft at this spot right later in

873
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Speaker 2: the draft.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm a third or whatever. You know you're gonna

875
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Speaker 3: h hit day two heavier and some teams. It's worth it,

876
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 3: you know, if you're closer and you just say, I

877
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 3: want a super cheap quarterback room. Okay, you know, I

878
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 3: mean I get the economics of that, and some some

879
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 3: teams and some builds, but not here now.

880
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. Let's get through a break. That

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Speaker 2: was a Field Yates mock draft. We're gonna get to

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Speaker 2: a break. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale. Allie.

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Speaker 2: takes here very yeah, real soon driving even deeper into

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Speaker 2: the into the draft than what we do on the show,

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Speaker 2: and that, of course leads to some stuff that we

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Speaker 2: do on the show and you can watch on YouTube's

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Speaker 2: combats right around the corner. Absolutely can't wait for that.

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Speaker 2: But things really start to heat up now that the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl is over and Matt and now will be

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Speaker 2: back with more right after.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: We are back.

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00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 2: I am Dale LOLLI he is Matt Williamson, and this

902
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Speaker 2: is the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network and Matt,

903
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 2: the Saints have made the last official hire of the

904
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Speaker 2: head coaching cycle, assuming nothing else happens at this point.

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Speaker 3: Right, I think it's safe to say we know the

906
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 3: third crazy point. So it's Kellum tell him more. That's

907
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 3: kind of an uninspiring HRT. That's the word I was

908
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 3: gonna use too. I mean, like I did a little

909
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 3: homework on him, and not that any of this was new,

910
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 3: but like he played six years in the league. He

911
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 3: had one year that he actually threw a pass, you know,

912
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 3: I mean, he's a backup future coach.

913
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 2: There's a lot of those guys.

914
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 3: That's not a knock on him. I'm not give him

915
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 3: a hard time one bit, but Dallas keeps him on

916
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 3: staff after he retires or can't play anymore, you know,

917
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 3: and moves up really quickly. Really, I mean the fact

918
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 3: that he's been a coordinator three different places, well coordinator

919
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 3: or better in three different spots already Philly Chargers, did

920
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 3: well with the Cowboys. He's doing some things great, But

921
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 3: I don't look at him as like this Shanahan schemer

922
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 3: that is going to change the world. Or maybe he's

923
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 3: a fine leader of men, but he doesn't have a

924
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 3: lot of experience doing it, you know.

925
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't that long ago he was a

926
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 2: player at least mean to this question. And we see

927
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 2: this with with a lot of these guys around the league.

928
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell, former backup quarterback, this guy. I mean, yeah,

929
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 2: you know, it's tons of we go on down the

930
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: list people, you know, and you talk about the minority

931
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 2: hiring stuff, you know, is that going to be something here?

932
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Speaker 2: We've seen obviously, you know, some guys getting hired at

933
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Speaker 2: the collegiate level, including Mike Vick just got to a

934
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Speaker 2: job as a as a college coach. Some of these

935
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Speaker 2: backup quarterbacks, why aren't they getting this opportunity at the

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Speaker 2: at the NFL level.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, that's a good question. There's been so many,

938
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Speaker 3: I mean, Jason Garrett and Frank Wright, I mean the

939
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 3: long term backup quarterbacks to star Jim Kelly and Aikman's backups.

940
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Speaker 3: And you know that the side I'm a better coach

941
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 3: than quarterback. Maybe that is the next level. You know

942
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Speaker 3: that we'll start seeing more minority backup quarterback future head coaches.

943
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Speaker 2: I mean we're seeing we're seeing more and more minority

944
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the league, and so that would be that.

945
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Speaker 3: What's behind Yeah, I mean it should be, of course.

946
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Speaker 2: But I mean the big step to being a head

947
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Speaker 2: coach in the NFL is on the offensive side of

948
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Speaker 2: the ball.

949
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Speaker 3: You could vali quarterback. It's a great start.

950
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Speaker 2: And that's one of the things when when people talk

951
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: about Mike Tomlin's coaching tree, it's all about the offensive

952
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 2: side of the ball when you're looking for these kind

953
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Speaker 2: of jobs. And quite frankly, I mean, you know, Bruce

954
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: arians did go on to become a head coach, but

955
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 2: you know some of the you know, Randy Fekner wasn't

956
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Speaker 2: going to come go become a head coach. You know,

957
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: Todd Haley had been a head coach and that wasn't

958
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 2: going to happen again for probably mean, he was in

959
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 2: the process of suing the Chiefs and all that other

960
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 2: kind of made it toxic for him. You know, it's

961
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Speaker 2: it's I don't know, I don't know if what the

962
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 2: answer is with with with some of the hiring stuff.

963
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 3: But we have one minority hiring at the level with

964
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 3: the Jets, right, yeah, and it's unfortunate. I mean, there

965
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Speaker 3: should be more. I don't know how to comment on it.

966
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I is the Rooney rule. I don't want

967
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 3: to say a failure, But does it need relooked at

968
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,479
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know what the Patriots was a joke,

969
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 3: you know, like they bring in two guys that are

970
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 3: both minorities, knowing rape the.

971
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: Whole reason they fired that.

972
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Speaker 3: People don't even want to get on a plane to

973
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Speaker 3: do that.

974
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Speaker 2: They fire male and knowing well they fired male.

975
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Speaker 3: Because available, right and he happens to be you know,

976
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Speaker 3: a white dude. You know. So I don't know, I mean,

977
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Speaker 3: I do think a cool thing that the league's doing.

978
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 3: Like the Niners have really benefited from this is when

979
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Speaker 3: a minority gets hired from your organization, you get compacts,

980
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 3: which is a really nice situation for the Niners. Been

981
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 3: the one that's got the most. So if I'm torn,

982
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 3: I'm going to hire a minority GM or assistant GM

983
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 3: or whatever.

984
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: There was some like at least.

985
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 3: It give them more opportunity.

986
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, for example, like when David Cully got

987
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 2: hired as the head coach of the Texas. First of all,

988
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 2: nobody thought David Kelly was going to be the hit.

989
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 3: He knew that was the ultimate placeholder coach too.

990
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 2: He had been with the Ravens for a year. David

991
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 2: Cully was a longtime NFL assistant coach. The Ravens didn't

992
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: develop him as a coach, no, no, or anything of

993
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:31,439
Speaker 2: the sort.

994
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 3: He was.

995
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 2: He was a receivers coach for the Steelers back in

996
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 2: the early two thousands.

997
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 3: You know, in a good position coach obviously, right, But they.

998
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 2: Just hired him. Well, let's just hire a guy he

999
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 2: wants to take.

1000
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 3: Nobody wanted.

1001
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: Nobody wanted the job that was, But the Ravens got

1002
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 2: two third round picks for it.

1003
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, in some way, I think that's unfair. I

1004
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 3: just think it's all not perfect.

1005
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: I just don't know that that's necessarily the answer to

1006
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 2: make this happen.

1007
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 3: But I or the Rooney roll for that also.

1008
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: You also, there's no quotas in place for this. We

1009
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 2: have to have this number of you know, and you

1010
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 2: have to hire this and no that that's that's that

1011
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: can't ever be the situation. But I just wonder what

1012
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 2: the league can do and maybe it is placing more

1013
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 2: of an emphasis on some of you know, minority hiring

1014
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 2: at the at the offensive coordinator or quarterbacks coach level.

1015
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 3: We know these things move a to Glacier's pace unfortunately,

1016
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 3: But I wonder Josh Johnson, you know, backup for a

1017
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 3: million years million. I mean, he's the Josh McCown that's

1018
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 3: done it forever. Does a team look at him if

1019
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 3: he wants to be a coach and say, you have

1020
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 3: a lot of experience with young athletic quarterbacks, why don't

1021
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 3: you be the mentor and be the offensive coordinator you know,

1022
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 3: is at least a quarterbacks coach, and as opposed to

1023
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 3: the pocket passer type or whatever, you know, you're the

1024
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 3: quarterback coach. I don't know. I mean it's in flux.

1025
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 3: One thing they do do well that's changed sort of

1026
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 3: recently is like Senior Bowl. They'll have a lot of

1027
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 3: advantages usually from my minority coaches. Here's exposure. You write

1028
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 3: a practice script for the whole week. You be the

1029
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 3: head guy for a whole week. The whole world's watching.

1030
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 3: Great job. You know that's okay, I'll eas capable of

1031
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 3: doing it great.

1032
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 2: At least it's a proving ground absolutely. And they have

1033
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 2: you know, they have the minority hiring clinics and things

1034
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 2: of that nature, acceleration clinics when you make these guys

1035
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 2: visible to the owners because again, if the guy has

1036
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 2: never played in your system where it wasn't a part

1037
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 2: of your franchise.

1038
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 3: Right. So much of the coaching stuff is the minority stuff. Aside,

1039
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 3: I think the coaching cycle is so screwed up. Yeah,

1040
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 3: a lot of them. They use a committee, like the Jets,

1041
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 3: just hire this committee to go, you get your head coach.

1042
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 3: And the other thing it's so messed up too, is

1043
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 3: a timing so bad. You know, like example, the Lions,

1044
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 3: they know they're losing both coordinators. They get a game

1045
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 3: to practice for that week or it's really kind of

1046
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 3: unfair to those teams. It's awful.

1047
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 2: And they did push it back and change some of

1048
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 2: those rules so that if you're in the playoffs you

1049
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 2: can't do in person interviews and things of that nature.

1050
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: But it's still time consuming do a zoom interview.

1051
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 3: I mean, even just look over the last like three,

1052
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 3: four or five years of the Chiefs. They've been the

1053
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 3: best team in the league over the last six years.

1054
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 3: We know that they've been pillaged that much because you

1055
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 3: can't pillage them ntil now.

1056
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 2: I mean it's teams process. Teams just aren't willing to wait.

1057
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 3: I'm not going to wait because if I hire you,

1058
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 3: there's no one for you to build a staff with

1059
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 3: because everyone's good hired.

1060
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 2: Honestly, mess I think they should have to wait until

1061
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 2: after the super.

1062
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 3: Bowl, but everybody would Tamper.

1063
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 2: I still think they should have to wait until after

1064
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 2: the super Bowl. You can know that every coaching high

1065
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: you can know who you want to hire, but just

1066
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: slow your process down. You can have any thought about

1067
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: that too. I just figured everyone cheat, and they might,

1068
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 2: but it might. But at the same time, if you

1069
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: had to wait, this great.

1070
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,919
Speaker 3: Run coach that needs to get a job. At least

1071
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 3: could say, well, I'm going to have three teams call me,

1072
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 3: not one. You know, there's such a human element to it.

1073
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 3: That's I don't know. The whole coaching cycle timeline is bad.

1074
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 3: It's just it's far from perfect.

1075
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 2: It's really it's unfair to the to the teams that

1076
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 2: are in the to get to the conference championship game.

1077
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 3: Even I mean, imagine being one of the Lions coordinators

1078
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 3: that week. I mean you're interviewing those guys who got

1079
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 3: interviewed by everybody.

1080
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 2: Or if you want to wait to the weekend between

1081
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 2: the super Bowl or something like that, at least gives

1082
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 2: those guys that opportunity to Yeah, nobody's getting hired until

1083
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 2: after the conference championship games. There's a dead week in

1084
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 2: between this day you can you can do interviews or

1085
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 2: these two days.

1086
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 3: Like with free agency opens or whatever. You know, the

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Speaker 3: buzzer sounds at four o'clock on Tuesday or whatever, and

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Speaker 3: you still have an idea that Cousins is going to

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Speaker 3: Atlanta or two. But I mean the terrible teams that

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Speaker 3: are out of it, the Patriots and these teams, they

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Speaker 3: can build their staff while people are preparing for the playoffs. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and it doesn't always work out their favor, but you'd

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Speaker 3: think it would. I don't know, it's all kind of

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Speaker 3: a mess.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, But anyways, that's the the big news of

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Speaker 2: the day. We're going to get to another break. He

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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening

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Speaker 2: to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt

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Speaker 2: and now I'll be back with our number two right

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Speaker 2: after this