1
00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,279
Speaker 1: Nothing will stand in our way, and our golden age

2
00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:04,280
Speaker 1: has just begun.

3
00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,280
Speaker 2: The human events with Jack Sob. Now it's time for

4
00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,799
Speaker 2: everyone to understand what America First truly means.

5
00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:15,360
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Second American Revolution.

6
00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:21,440
Speaker 3: Almost, President, you look fabulous in that suit. I said, yeah,

7
00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,759
Speaker 3: you look good. I said the same thing. Yeah, I said,

8
00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:26,000
Speaker 3: one that attacked.

9
00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:26,200
Speaker 1: You last time.

10
00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,479
Speaker 3: I remember, I apologize to you. Look you look wonderful. No,

11
00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,080
Speaker 3: my first question for presidents in the same suit.

12
00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:37,160
Speaker 4: I changed.

13
00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,760
Speaker 1: I was just telling the President. I just spoke to

14
00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,160
Speaker 1: President Putting indirectly, and we're going to have a phone

15
00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,160
Speaker 1: call right after these meetings today.

16
00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,680
Speaker 3: And we may or may not have a try lad.

17
00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,840
Speaker 1: If we don't have a try Lad, then the fighting continues.

18
00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:55,760
Speaker 1: And if we do, we have a good chance. I

19
00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:57,480
Speaker 1: think if we have a trilet, there's a good chance

20
00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:02,400
Speaker 1: of maybe ending it. But he's he's expecting Michael when

21
00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:03,680
Speaker 1: we're finished with this meeting.

22
00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,320
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Thanks President Scelenski.

23
00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,000
Speaker 5: Are you prepared to keep sending Ukrainian truths to their

24
00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,959
Speaker 5: death for another couple of years or are you going

25
00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,880
Speaker 5: to agree to redraw mass?

26
00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:18,520
Speaker 3: Thank you for your questions.

27
00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:22,679
Speaker 6: So, first of all, you know we live under bj attacks.

28
00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,680
Speaker 3: You know that today have been a lot of attacks

29
00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,760
Speaker 3: and a lot of wounded people and the.

30
00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:32,280
Speaker 6: Child was dead small bomb one one year and a half.

31
00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,760
Speaker 6: So we need to stop this lord, to stop Russia,

32
00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,080
Speaker 6: and we need support American and European finals.

33
00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,560
Speaker 4: Right, folks, this is Jack Pasobic.

34
00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,560
Speaker 2: We are back live here Washington, d C. On the

35
00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,160
Speaker 2: north lawn of the White House, just steps away from

36
00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,440
Speaker 2: where you can look just behind me there in the

37
00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,160
Speaker 2: Oval Office, the West wing of the White House. President

38
00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,240
Speaker 2: Trump and President Zelensky are now holding Chapter two, Part two,

39
00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:03,480
Speaker 2: the Anchorage Accords, now being conducted. On Friday, we were

40
00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,400
Speaker 2: accompanied with President Trump. We were embedded with his delegation

41
00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,760
Speaker 2: up to Anchorage to meet with the Russian side, Blady Reputin.

42
00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,640
Speaker 2: Now we're here at the White House to explain what's

43
00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,040
Speaker 2: going on with President Zelensky and President Trump.

44
00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:17,000
Speaker 4: Want to give a.

45
00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,400
Speaker 2: Huge shout out, by the way to Patriot Mobile for

46
00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,760
Speaker 2: making everything that we're doing in terms of this reporting possible.

47
00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,320
Speaker 2: So go and support them. Make sure you're supporting our sponsors,

48
00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,000
Speaker 2: because that is who keeps the lights on, that's who

49
00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,880
Speaker 2: allows us to do this kind of travel. Go and

50
00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,680
Speaker 2: support them. Patriotmobile dot com slash post. So we're nine

51
00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,320
Speaker 2: to seven to Patriot again, Patriot Mobile dot com nine

52
00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,600
Speaker 2: to seven to Patriot. Think about it, folks, You have

53
00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,760
Speaker 2: so many options out there when it comes to your

54
00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:47,960
Speaker 2: mobile phone service.

55
00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,679
Speaker 4: We've all got them. We all need them. In today's economy,

56
00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:51,639
Speaker 4: in today's social.

57
00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,040
Speaker 2: Life, you need a cell phone. But why would you

58
00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,400
Speaker 2: be giving your money to people who hate you. We've

59
00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,720
Speaker 2: seen where all of the Big three are spending your money.

60
00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:05,280
Speaker 2: They're spending on wokeness, on CRT, on DEI, and ultimately

61
00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,720
Speaker 2: on things that do not comport with the values of

62
00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,000
Speaker 2: American patriots.

63
00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,720
Speaker 4: So that is why it's very simple.

64
00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,800
Speaker 2: There is now a Patriot phone service that's set up

65
00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,079
Speaker 2: for Patriots and it's called Patriot Mobile.

66
00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:17,839
Speaker 4: So check them out.

67
00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:22,000
Speaker 2: Patriot Mobile dot com slash posso, Patriotmobile dot com slash

68
00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,120
Speaker 2: postso or could the McCall at nine to seven to

69
00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,799
Speaker 2: Patriot now, folks, getting.

70
00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,959
Speaker 4: Back to it as we are here.

71
00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,959
Speaker 2: Remember it wasn't that long ago, just one year ago,

72
00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:37,120
Speaker 2: where President Biden was talking about how the United States

73
00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,880
Speaker 2: would be escalating the war in Ukraine, talking about escalation

74
00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:45,360
Speaker 2: in terms of missiles, long rain strikes, sabotage attacks deep

75
00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,480
Speaker 2: within the Russian backfield, the Curse incursion going across the

76
00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,520
Speaker 2: line into Russia proper, pushing the Ukrainians to do that

77
00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,600
Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty three, that summer two years ago,

78
00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,640
Speaker 2: the incredibly failed Summer counter offensive where Russia or excuse

79
00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,520
Speaker 2: me Youan troops were smashed against Russians in places like

80
00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:09,160
Speaker 2: Mariupol and Militipol. This was the issue that President Trump

81
00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,480
Speaker 2: came into when he came into office. President Trump didn't

82
00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,760
Speaker 2: start this war. President Trump was a private citizen when

83
00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,960
Speaker 2: all of this was taking place. From now looking, there's

84
00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,720
Speaker 2: numerous White House officials. They're coming by as we go,

85
00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:25,880
Speaker 2: and folks, President Trump has always been against war. He's

86
00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,400
Speaker 2: always pointed out that it never should have happened. In fact,

87
00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,719
Speaker 2: President Pluten said this to him when he was meeting

88
00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,360
Speaker 2: at that meeting and anchorage, that it wouldn't have happened

89
00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,920
Speaker 2: had he been in office, because they would have found

90
00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,560
Speaker 2: a way to have that one on one deal, that

91
00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,560
Speaker 2: one on one conversation between President Trump President Putin, and

92
00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,520
Speaker 2: then of course President Trump also being able to go

93
00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,920
Speaker 2: and have that sit down with Zelensky. And in fact,

94
00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,400
Speaker 2: he's always been sitting down with Zelensky all the way

95
00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,080
Speaker 2: to the fact that even one of his phone calls

96
00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:57,000
Speaker 2: with President Zelensky became the basis for an impeachment back

97
00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:01,440
Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen. It's very k It's very clear here, folks,

98
00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:06,720
Speaker 2: that Ukraine represents to a number of the Atlanticist interests,

99
00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,760
Speaker 2: the globalist interests, something far more than just the people

100
00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,560
Speaker 2: on the ground or even the leaders in Kiev. It

101
00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,880
Speaker 2: represents what they have been working on for over a decade,

102
00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:23,760
Speaker 2: a project, Project Ukraine, and that project, unfortunately, has been

103
00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:28,880
Speaker 2: to pit them against the Russian Federation and to escalate

104
00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,360
Speaker 2: this to the point where they could foment a war.

105
00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,800
Speaker 4: The globalist the Atlanticists will tell you.

106
00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,640
Speaker 2: That if they are able to achieve this, that it

107
00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,240
Speaker 2: will force regime change in Russia and it will force

108
00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,760
Speaker 2: President Putin out of office. However, that's not happened at all.

109
00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,400
Speaker 2: In fact, far from it. We're seeing the Russian army.

110
00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,719
Speaker 2: The Russian military is now on the advance. They're the

111
00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,840
Speaker 2: ones who are currently on the march. They're encircling Ukrainian

112
00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,120
Speaker 2: troops in the dnbas as we speak. They're creating these

113
00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:00,279
Speaker 2: operational cauldrons and they're cutting off the supply lines, as

114
00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,120
Speaker 2: we said, and human Defense say that you can go

115
00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,480
Speaker 2: back the Tene Carols Toni Shaffer when we've had him on,

116
00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,320
Speaker 2: other analysts we've had on all of these things have

117
00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:13,719
Speaker 2: been taking place, keyed up on when the end of

118
00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,559
Speaker 2: July beginning of August we told you that this would

119
00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,000
Speaker 2: be the time that it all came to a forefront.

120
00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,800
Speaker 2: Why because what we're now starting to see is a

121
00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:26,160
Speaker 2: rolling collapse of the Ukrainian military on the battlefield, and

122
00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,880
Speaker 2: that rolling collapse means that the Russians are now poised

123
00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,440
Speaker 2: to break out not just beyond Don Bass, but even

124
00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,919
Speaker 2: all the way up to where the Znepper River and

125
00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:40,200
Speaker 2: the Nepper River really bifurcaids Ukraine north south, going from

126
00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,320
Speaker 2: all the way in the north from Kiev all the

127
00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,719
Speaker 2: way down south to the Black Sea. And that's what

128
00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,440
Speaker 2: this has all been about, that Black Sea. Now there

129
00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,880
Speaker 2: are people by the way in Russia that do not

130
00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,400
Speaker 2: want this deal. They're saying, why sit down with the

131
00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,640
Speaker 2: Americans at all. There are hardliners to the right of

132
00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,440
Speaker 2: Putin who say we want the entire thing, or at

133
00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,039
Speaker 2: least the entire coastline. Take all the way up to

134
00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:06,120
Speaker 2: Odessa and leave behind a failed rump state of Ukraine.

135
00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,600
Speaker 2: That's what the Russian right is saying. On the Ukrainian side,

136
00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,280
Speaker 2: they're saying, no deal. Don't negotiate with a country that

137
00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,760
Speaker 2: invaded us. Don't negotiate with a country that's come in

138
00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,600
Speaker 2: and started this killing, that started the shooting, that started

139
00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:20,240
Speaker 2: this aggression.

140
00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,000
Speaker 4: They are the aggressor. Why would we negotiate with them.

141
00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,000
Speaker 2: So it's President Trump who's now coming in here and

142
00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:26,920
Speaker 2: he's digging this up.

143
00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:27,080
Speaker 4: Now.

144
00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,880
Speaker 2: I've heard from a lot of people people saying, look,

145
00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,320
Speaker 2: we don't want to see American boots on the ground

146
00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,760
Speaker 2: in Ukraine. Everyone I've talked to in the administration. That

147
00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,120
Speaker 2: is the furthest thing from any of.

148
00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:39,760
Speaker 4: What they're saying.

149
00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:40,160
Speaker 3: Now.

150
00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,200
Speaker 4: These questions, though I know, I saw.

151
00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:46,280
Speaker 2: This going around yesterday, Article five, like security guarantee, what

152
00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,760
Speaker 2: does that mean? While on the Russian side, in fact,

153
00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,680
Speaker 2: the Russians have always agreed that Ukraine should have a

154
00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,480
Speaker 2: security guarantee, the question is who are the guaranteurs. Are

155
00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,240
Speaker 2: the guarantors of that going to be NATO? Are they

156
00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,920
Speaker 2: going to be European nations or perhaps a contortion a

157
00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,800
Speaker 2: coalition if you will, that's what you're hearing from the

158
00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,239
Speaker 2: Ukrainians as well as well the Europeans and the G seven.

159
00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,160
Speaker 4: Members that are that are meeting here today.

160
00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,720
Speaker 2: The NATO leaders, they're saying, why not a coalition of

161
00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,440
Speaker 2: the willing Russia, on the other hand, has said we'd

162
00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,920
Speaker 2: be willing to join such a coalition and perhaps even

163
00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:22,360
Speaker 2: involve the Chinese, the Chinese Communist Party. So all of

164
00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,880
Speaker 2: these factors are playing into the meeting. The President Trump,

165
00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,560
Speaker 2: the series of meetings that he embarked in last Friday

166
00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,200
Speaker 2: and Anchorage now today in the Oval Office in the

167
00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:34,840
Speaker 2: White House. I want to get in now. We've got

168
00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,120
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes of the break. We want to

169
00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,840
Speaker 2: get in now. Some of the Real America's Voice team.

170
00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,240
Speaker 2: I think we have Bo and Emily down there and

171
00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:42,080
Speaker 2: West Palm guys.

172
00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:43,640
Speaker 4: You there, Yes, we are. Jack.

173
00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,560
Speaker 7: It's great to see you on the North lawn there, Jack.

174
00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,480
Speaker 7: If I could, I'd love to touch base with you

175
00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,679
Speaker 7: here on a topic you just touched on before you

176
00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,680
Speaker 7: have to jet with respect to Don bas Minor Sinning

177
00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,040
Speaker 7: is that there's economic value to it. But there's a

178
00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,319
Speaker 7: defensible reason that Ukraine wants to keep this because the

179
00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,040
Speaker 7: terrain is different, and if you owe open that territory

180
00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,839
Speaker 7: to the Russians, that it's basically flat farmland all the

181
00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,040
Speaker 7: way to Karkiev and Kiev. Is that why a place

182
00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,920
Speaker 7: like Dnbass is so critical in these negotiations.

183
00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,720
Speaker 2: Well, I mean pretty much all of Ukraine is really

184
00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,760
Speaker 2: that low flat land, that low flat farm land coming

185
00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,240
Speaker 2: off from the Black Sea the Dombas. Yes, too, it

186
00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,120
Speaker 2: has an extent of terrain to it, but it's really

187
00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,720
Speaker 2: not that much. And yes, to your point, the key

188
00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,959
Speaker 2: uh geographic formation that would that would include any kind

189
00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,760
Speaker 2: of military barrier after the don Bass really is just

190
00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:33,559
Speaker 2: that Tanepa river.

191
00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,720
Speaker 4: So there are real there aren't really any and again

192
00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:36,440
Speaker 4: it's just these rules.

193
00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,840
Speaker 2: I remember, Ukraine is the bread basket of Europe, and

194
00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,400
Speaker 2: it certainly was the bread basket of Europe prior to

195
00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,560
Speaker 2: the war. That black soil that they have in Ukraine

196
00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,600
Speaker 2: is incredibly arable land because of its proximity to the

197
00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:49,160
Speaker 2: Black Sea.

198
00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,920
Speaker 4: That's why the growth there is so incredible.

199
00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,040
Speaker 2: And it's also why companies like Monsanto and other GMOs

200
00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,800
Speaker 2: have been looking to get into Ukraine from the very beginning.

201
00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,679
Speaker 2: So there's to your point, not just a million military reason,

202
00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,040
Speaker 2: but also an economic reason.

203
00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,440
Speaker 7: And Jack, what would be the best possible scenario coming

204
00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:07,920
Speaker 7: out of today in that meeting right.

205
00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:13,160
Speaker 2: Behind you, Well, you know, the best possible scenario would

206
00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,480
Speaker 2: be a peace deal today. And I certainly think that

207
00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,640
Speaker 2: each side is going to have some consternation. Each side

208
00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,240
Speaker 2: will have to make concessions. The Russians have been willing

209
00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,160
Speaker 2: to say that they don't need to get all of

210
00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,320
Speaker 2: the provinces that they're claiming. They're sort of positioning that

211
00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,720
Speaker 2: as a concession, whereas the Ukrainians are saying, we want

212
00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,080
Speaker 2: just up to the contact line and nothing else, so

213
00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:34,200
Speaker 2: up to the current front line.

214
00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,280
Speaker 4: But really it's about getting.

215
00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,560
Speaker 2: A peace deal as quickly as possible for President Trump,

216
00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,360
Speaker 2: for the administration. I think that's what they're driving towards,

217
00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,480
Speaker 2: and one that again isn't just going to be a.

218
00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,320
Speaker 4: Ceasefire that could fall apart.

219
00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,280
Speaker 2: They want an actual, lasting peace deal that could perhaps

220
00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:53,120
Speaker 2: set a new framework for relations between the United States

221
00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,160
Speaker 2: and Russia, and Russia and the entire West.

222
00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:56,400
Speaker 5: Jack, walk us.

223
00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,360
Speaker 8: Through what the rest of the day is going to

224
00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,280
Speaker 8: look like. They're at the White House. We know Trump

225
00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,480
Speaker 8: and Zelensky are a meeting right now, but there's also

226
00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,920
Speaker 8: European leaders seven, if I'm not mistaken, that are going

227
00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:07,920
Speaker 8: to be meeting with them as well. So what can

228
00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,480
Speaker 8: we expect to hear there? I understand that Zelensky had

229
00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,640
Speaker 8: his own private meeting before meeting with Trump today with

230
00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:14,959
Speaker 8: those European leaders.

231
00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:15,520
Speaker 4: What can we.

232
00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:16,360
Speaker 9: Expect to see?

233
00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,720
Speaker 2: That's right, So they're going to move from this meeting

234
00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,040
Speaker 2: into a wider meeting with the President, Zelensky and the

235
00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,240
Speaker 2: European leaders. And at which point, if that goes well,

236
00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,080
Speaker 2: and if all goes according to plan, that they're going

237
00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,720
Speaker 2: to move to a press conference where you're going to

238
00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,800
Speaker 2: see President Trump, President Zelensky, and likely one of the

239
00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,800
Speaker 2: EU leaders. I think we're coming up on a quick

240
00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,400
Speaker 2: break here. We're looking for that press conference as a

241
00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:40,160
Speaker 2: positive sign.

242
00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,720
Speaker 4: Coming up. Human Events Daily, Rual Americus Voice live from

243
00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:43,400
Speaker 4: the White House.

244
00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:05,679
Speaker 1: About it influences, These are influences and they're friends of mine, Jack.

245
00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,800
Speaker 7: Jack Down.

246
00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,480
Speaker 10: If Vladimir Putin is going to be offered land that

247
00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,480
Speaker 10: he has not seized yet but negotiates his way into,

248
00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,560
Speaker 10: doesn't this set a dangerous precedent that the United States

249
00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,760
Speaker 10: now accepts this concept that it is okay to seize

250
00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,000
Speaker 10: land by force.

251
00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:28,800
Speaker 11: But this is not about accepting. This is about what

252
00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,440
Speaker 11: Ukraine can accept and what Russia can accept. They both

253
00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,480
Speaker 11: have to accept it, otherwise there won't be a peace deal.

254
00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,000
Speaker 3: Okay, if there aren't.

255
00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,079
Speaker 11: Concessions, if one side gets everything they want, that's called surrender.

256
00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,240
Speaker 11: That's called the end of the war through surrender. And

257
00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,160
Speaker 11: that's not what we're close to doing, because neither side

258
00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,400
Speaker 11: here is on the verge of surrender anything close to it.

259
00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,400
Speaker 11: So in order for there to be a peace deal,

260
00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,480
Speaker 11: this is just a fact. We may not like it,

261
00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,360
Speaker 11: it may not be pleasant, it may be distasteful, But

262
00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,040
Speaker 11: in order for there to be an end of the war,

263
00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,480
Speaker 11: there are things Russia wants that it cannot get, and

264
00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,480
Speaker 11: there are things Ukraine wants that it's not going to be.

265
00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:03,200
Speaker 12: Too unsuccessful in Vinia region, Putin has been unable to

266
00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:07,959
Speaker 12: take it for twelve years, and the constitution of Ukraine

267
00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:13,400
Speaker 12: makes it impossible, impossible to give up territory or trade land.

268
00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,800
Speaker 13: Since the territorial issue is so important, it should be

269
00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,679
Speaker 13: discussed only by the leaders of Ukraine and Russia and

270
00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:26,640
Speaker 13: the trilateral Ukraine United States Russia. So far, Russia gives

271
00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:31,120
Speaker 13: no sign that trilateral will happen, and if Russia refuses,

272
00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,440
Speaker 13: then new sanctions must follow.

273
00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,400
Speaker 2: All right, Jack Posopic here live outside the White House.

274
00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,200
Speaker 2: We're on the north lawn. It's called pebble Beach. Not

275
00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,440
Speaker 2: too many pebbles here right now. But there is a

276
00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,320
Speaker 2: little bit of drizzle, a couple of drops of rain hitting.

277
00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,160
Speaker 2: We knew that we were going to get rain at

278
00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,160
Speaker 2: some point today, but I said, guys, we gotta do it.

279
00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:53,760
Speaker 4: We got to be out there. So I'll be out

280
00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,400
Speaker 4: here even if it's pouring rain. I'm not going anywhere,

281
00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,320
Speaker 4: because this is what it's all about.

282
00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,640
Speaker 2: Steaks higher than ever, the war in Ukraine, the war

283
00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,719
Speaker 2: and the DNBAS and Saint Marco Rubio saying it very

284
00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,440
Speaker 2: plainly that neither side is willing to surrender here, and

285
00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,160
Speaker 2: in fact, both sides are.

286
00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:14,800
Speaker 4: Willing to continue fighting.

287
00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,400
Speaker 2: After all, this is Eastern Europe and that's exactly how

288
00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,960
Speaker 2: it goes over there. They're not into surrender very much.

289
00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,840
Speaker 2: But perhaps a peace deal could be come to. And

290
00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,240
Speaker 2: something that I think a lot of people may have

291
00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,160
Speaker 2: missed is that when Vladimir Zelinsky, when he was first

292
00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,600
Speaker 2: running for president all the way back in twenty nineteen,

293
00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,880
Speaker 2: so three years before the war began. One of the

294
00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,000
Speaker 2: things that he said that he wanted to be able

295
00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,520
Speaker 2: to achieve during his time in office would be to

296
00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,240
Speaker 2: find a way to normalize some kind.

297
00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,120
Speaker 4: Of situation with Russia.

298
00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:51,200
Speaker 2: Because for folks, remember the original Don Bask crisis goes

299
00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,680
Speaker 2: all the way back to twenty fourteen, go to the

300
00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,640
Speaker 2: Maidan Revolution. That's when you see those territories break away,

301
00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,480
Speaker 2: become autonomous, then the Russian move in, So this conflict

302
00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,840
Speaker 2: really goes back over a decade to that point. And

303
00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,120
Speaker 2: it's something that Zelensky talked about quite a bit when

304
00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,040
Speaker 2: he first ran for office. So we'll see whether or

305
00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:15,120
Speaker 2: not he's interested in going back to his original position there.

306
00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:16,960
Speaker 2: I want to say, I'll be here for a couple

307
00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,280
Speaker 2: more minutes. We're going to hand it off to the

308
00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,400
Speaker 2: rest of the Real America's Voice team because I've got

309
00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,800
Speaker 2: to run inside in at the end of the segment

310
00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,280
Speaker 2: here for the press conference.

311
00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,840
Speaker 4: I believe we have Steve Gruber though with us, you do.

312
00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,960
Speaker 5: Jack, I'm here standing by, ready and willing and able

313
00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:33,600
Speaker 5: to pick up where you're leaving Steve.

314
00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:35,120
Speaker 3: Jacket.

315
00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,280
Speaker 4: Steve, what do you make of the day so far?

316
00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,080
Speaker 5: It's a remarkable day, Jack and you know, I was

317
00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,680
Speaker 5: reflecting on your video in the middle of the night

318
00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:45,200
Speaker 5: here the other day.

319
00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:45,800
Speaker 3: I ran it on my.

320
00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,320
Speaker 5: Morning show here on Real America's Voice, first thing this morning,

321
00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,720
Speaker 5: because the point that you made is really important. Donald

322
00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,560
Speaker 5: Trump worked all the way home from Alaska. He didn't

323
00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,200
Speaker 5: rest in his laurels. He didn't say, hey, we had

324
00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,360
Speaker 5: a good meeting here. He was on the phone, ringing

325
00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,160
Speaker 5: the phones with European leaders, NATO leaders, Zelensky, all, all

326
00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,960
Speaker 5: of them. It is remarkable that this man, seventy nine

327
00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,720
Speaker 5: years of age, is one to work his fingers to

328
00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,040
Speaker 5: the bone, literally dialing the phone, hooking up and putting

329
00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,360
Speaker 5: together these relationships and making it happen.

330
00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,000
Speaker 3: You were right there at the front row. I'd like

331
00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:14,080
Speaker 3: you to reflect on that a little bit.

332
00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,640
Speaker 5: I mean to me, it's a remarkable display of grit

333
00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,120
Speaker 5: and leadership, and I think that's what it's going to

334
00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,560
Speaker 5: take to maybe close the chapter on this war.

335
00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,160
Speaker 3: Your thoughts, well.

336
00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,640
Speaker 2: Steve, and only that, but he went golfing just a

337
00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,640
Speaker 2: few hours after. So we get there, we landed the tarmac,

338
00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,560
Speaker 2: and I don't know if I quite expressed this. It was,

339
00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,760
Speaker 2: you know, three in the morning, so and I've been

340
00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,920
Speaker 2: going through how many time zones, I couldn't even tell you.

341
00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,680
Speaker 4: But we're on the tarmac.

342
00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,360
Speaker 2: We land though at two in the morning, on the tarmac,

343
00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,840
Speaker 2: and we're sitting there and we're ready for the movement.

344
00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,400
Speaker 4: We're ready to get into the motorcade.

345
00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,840
Speaker 2: And suddenly we're waiting and we wait a little bit longer,

346
00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,320
Speaker 2: and then we see the Secret Service, which is in

347
00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,560
Speaker 2: the compartment ahead of us. They all sit down. He said,

348
00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,080
Speaker 2: wait a minute, the Secret Service sits down. That's probably

349
00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:00,800
Speaker 2: a sign you're not going to be moving anytime soon.

350
00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,399
Speaker 2: Then Caroline Levitt comes back to us. She says, folks, uh,

351
00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,919
Speaker 2: we're actually holding here on the tarmac. What are we

352
00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:08,800
Speaker 2: holding here on the tarmac for? Is there's some situation?

353
00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,840
Speaker 2: He said, Well, President Trump is currently on the phone

354
00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:13,119
Speaker 2: with a NATO leader.

355
00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,600
Speaker 4: Doesn't want to hang up the phone call, so.

356
00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:19,760
Speaker 2: He held the entire delegation, held Air Force one there

357
00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,919
Speaker 2: on the tarmac for probably about another forty five minutes

358
00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,359
Speaker 2: to an hour in order to finish that conversation.

359
00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,520
Speaker 4: Didn't want to hang up the phone. And at that

360
00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,720
Speaker 4: point we headed back to the White House.

361
00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,800
Speaker 2: So for people to realize that when he's up there

362
00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,760
Speaker 2: in the Air air Force one that is a total

363
00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,440
Speaker 2: working airborne white house. He's got his airborne oval office,

364
00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,879
Speaker 2: he's got his situation room, full communication suite, ability to

365
00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,760
Speaker 2: contact anyone in the world, and he was working from

366
00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,920
Speaker 2: the moment that he got on board to the moment

367
00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,159
Speaker 2: he disembarked, and he still got up and went to

368
00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:52,919
Speaker 2: golf in the morning.

369
00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's remarkable, and yeah, you have what an experience

370
00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,960
Speaker 5: for you to be lucky enough to see that from

371
00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,080
Speaker 5: the front row where you were, pretty incredible experience.

372
00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,760
Speaker 3: You know, I want you to weigh into this check

373
00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,120
Speaker 3: because we've.

374
00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,119
Speaker 5: Talked about this obviously since February twenty twenty two. My

375
00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,880
Speaker 5: opinion has been and continues to be that I'm sorry,

376
00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,080
Speaker 5: as angry as you may be, the Putin's going to

377
00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,639
Speaker 5: be rewarded for his illegal invasion of Ukraine, but he

378
00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,640
Speaker 5: probably is. He's not giving Crimea back, He's not giving

379
00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,679
Speaker 5: back those naval bases, of those military air fields in

380
00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,000
Speaker 5: Crimea that's been in the hands of Russia since twenty twelve,

381
00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,960
Speaker 5: and the don Bass in those regions on eastern Ukraine

382
00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,240
Speaker 5: probably not coming back either. That's been my opinion for

383
00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,360
Speaker 5: a long time, and I think it was framed properly

384
00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,119
Speaker 5: by Peter Descy, who asked it right out of the

385
00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,560
Speaker 5: gate today, are you willing to draw redraw the maps

386
00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,160
Speaker 5: of Ukraine or do you want to spend another two

387
00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:44,080
Speaker 5: years having people get killed. Look, as our colleage Steve

388
00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,159
Speaker 5: Bannon pointed out numerous times, one point five million people

389
00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,200
Speaker 5: killed here or wounded. That's more than the people killed,

390
00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:51,920
Speaker 5: more than the first two years of World War Two.

391
00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:56,000
Speaker 5: On the European content, this war has to end. Will

392
00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,240
Speaker 5: it get done today? I don't know, but the war

393
00:18:59,359 --> 00:18:59,960
Speaker 5: has to end.

394
00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,760
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's exactly right, and it's been obviously

395
00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,120
Speaker 2: one of the most powerful wars that European and really

396
00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,200
Speaker 2: the world has seen since the end of World War Two.

397
00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:15,520
Speaker 4: Will it get done today?

398
00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,639
Speaker 2: I hope so, just from that perspective, but again, anything

399
00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,320
Speaker 2: could take place. I would say this, as we know

400
00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,920
Speaker 2: President Trump has been working the phones all weekend. We

401
00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,240
Speaker 2: know that a lot of these decisions, a lot of

402
00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:31,640
Speaker 2: these conversations were held even before anyone showed up today.

403
00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,040
Speaker 2: So it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of this

404
00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,240
Speaker 2: had already been hashed out. All right, Jack Posobc, I

405
00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,600
Speaker 2: am going to head inside to the press conference, turning

406
00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,240
Speaker 2: it over to the Real America's Voice team here live

407
00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,960
Speaker 2: at the White House, Human Events Daily.

408
00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:05,359
Speaker 5: Jack, Yeah, where's Jack? Where is it Jack?

409
00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 4: I want to see you.

410
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,480
Speaker 1: Great job Jack, Thank you?

411
00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:11,520
Speaker 3: What a job it?

412
00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:12,359
Speaker 14: Do you know?

413
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 1: We have an incredible thing grows talking about the fake

414
00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,919
Speaker 1: news and demand, but we have guys, and these are

415
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,280
Speaker 1: the guys who are begetting puts.

416
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,879
Speaker 7: Welcome back to Human Events Daily. I'm Bo Davidson alongside

417
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,920
Speaker 7: Emily Finn. Emily, it's a hopeful day. We would call

418
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,399
Speaker 7: this a hopeful day in the progress towards a path

419
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,919
Speaker 7: to peace. You know, Flatimer's Lensky and President Trump are

420
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,879
Speaker 7: meeting right now as we speak. We can only imagine

421
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 7: what's being said, but we hope it's a path to peace.

422
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 8: That's the hope, absolutely, Bo and I think, as Jack

423
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 8: was mentioning throughout the show, it's really part two of

424
00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,600
Speaker 8: that hope. Last Friday, when Trump met with Putin, that

425
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,480
Speaker 8: was really the first step in the right direction with

426
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,720
Speaker 8: all of this. But as we've been discussing throughout the show,

427
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 8: I mean, it just seems like the two sides really

428
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,480
Speaker 8: are hesitant to give up what they want. On the

429
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,119
Speaker 8: Russian side, you know, being that don Bass region, that

430
00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,160
Speaker 8: land that eighty eight percent of it has already control

431
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 8: by Russia three years into this war. And on the

432
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 8: other side, you know, Zelinsky wants those security guarantees, but

433
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 8: what does that mean? So I think that's what he's

434
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 8: talking with the president about.

435
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:10,440
Speaker 1: As we speak.

436
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 4: They will be meeting.

437
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,359
Speaker 8: With those other European leaders, as we've been reporting on

438
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 8: as well. UK Prime Minister a Cure Starmer, French President

439
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:22,439
Speaker 8: Emmanuel Lacrone, Italian Prime Minister Georgia Maloney included in that group.

440
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,400
Speaker 8: We know that Zelensky talked with them earlier in the day,

441
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,439
Speaker 8: had a private side conversation before all going in on

442
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 8: a unified front to talk with President Trump today. So

443
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 8: that is something that I'm going to be keeping a

444
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 8: really close eye on because I think that's going to

445
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 8: give us some cues as to where the negotiations really

446
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 8: do stand.

447
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, and there's no deal till there's a deal, right,

448
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 7: That's what President Trumps said. Vladimir Putin probably raised his

449
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,880
Speaker 7: issues and what he wants. Vladimir Zelensky will do the same.

450
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,360
Speaker 7: But remember, as Marco Rubio said, not everyone is going

451
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,119
Speaker 7: to get everything they want. That is why we have

452
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 7: something called compromise, and that's something that just has to

453
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 7: happen in this path. The beasts and Donald Trump has

454
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,639
Speaker 7: worked tirelessly. Jack Bisova gave that anecdote of what happened

455
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 7: on Air Force Warren one, working tirelessly to speak to

456
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,120
Speaker 7: European leaders as he will do shortly. I do want

457
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 7: to talk also, Emily about the lack of popularity of

458
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 7: this war. There's an attitude that is changed in terms

459
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 7: of what the Ukrainians feel they should do and putting

460
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 7: their trust in their fearless leader of Vladimir Zelinsky.

461
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:17,679
Speaker 4: So let's go to assault right now.

462
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 7: We have from seeing and that talks about polling that

463
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 7: has changed from twenty twenty two up until now.

464
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 14: There have been some absolutely major shifts. The idea that

465
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 14: Ukraine's going to achieve complete victory that I get, has

466
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,360
Speaker 14: collapsed within Ukrainian society. What are we talking about here,

467
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 14: Ukrainians on the war versus Russia. You go back to

468
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 14: twenty twenty two, the start of the war.

469
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 4: Fight until Ukraine wins.

470
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,479
Speaker 14: Look at this, the vast majority, about three quarters seventy

471
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,159
Speaker 14: three percent, agreed with that position. Negotiate to end the

472
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,680
Speaker 14: war as soon as possible, only twenty two percent. Look

473
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 14: at where we are now, it's a complete flip. It's

474
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 14: the inverse. Now, sixty nine percent want to negotiate to

475
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 14: end the war as soon as possible, compared to just

476
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 14: twenty four percent who want to fight until Ukraine wins.

477
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 14: That's a forty nine point drop in this point.

478
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 7: The results speak for themselves. That is an entire flippage

479
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 7: between twenty twenty two and now in terms of the

480
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 7: mentality towards this war and whether they want it to

481
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 7: end where they should agree to a peace.

482
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 8: Absolutely, and let's think about the mindset behind that bough.

483
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 8: I mean the Ukrainian people at the very beginning, you know,

484
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 8: it was so unfair. They didn't want their region to

485
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 8: be invaded by the Russians. They had a lot of

486
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 8: fight in them to not want to accept any kind

487
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 8: of negotiations, not accept any kind of a deal. But

488
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 8: three years later the Russians are still holding out and

489
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 8: it just it feels like that probably is a huge

490
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 8: inspiration behind those that flippage in statistics that you see

491
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 8: on your screen here. It is not a popular war.

492
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 8: There are a lot of people obviously from Europe as well,

493
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 8: over at the White House today that want to assist

494
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 8: in getting this war ended. But the United States is

495
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,880
Speaker 8: they're really coming to the table and trying to get

496
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 8: both sides together. President Trump talking about how he's going

497
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 8: to call President Putin after all of these meetings today

498
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,959
Speaker 8: and you know, kind of fill him in and get

499
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 8: an update on where negotiations stand from the Russian side.

500
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 8: And Trump, when he was meeting with Zelinsky earlier, said

501
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 8: that a trilateral meeting and getting that scheduled is the

502
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 8: goal after all of these meetings today, So I think

503
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 8: that would be the next step looking forward both.

504
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 4: That would be the goal.

505
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 7: And we've got a lot of peace deals that Trump

506
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 7: is brokeer. You know, Trump is the great peace maker.

507
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 7: We've got Armenia and Azerbaijan, Rwand in the Congo, Indian, Pakistan, Cambodia, Thailand, Ethiopi, Samalia,

508
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 7: and Israel and Hamas. These are major, major peace deals

509
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 7: that he's brokeer. I would like to bring in Steve Ruber,

510
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 7: the Great Steve Ruber, the Encyclopedia, the Human Encyclopedia. Steve Ruber,

511
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 7: who knows so much about the tireless work that Donald

512
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 7: Trump has done. Steve I would like to ask you

513
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 7: about the effect of the European leaders that are there today.

514
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 7: What effect are they going to have? Are they a buttress?

515
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 7: Are they chaperones? We don't have Steve okay, well we'll

516
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 7: go back to Elygin. Are these Steve Bannon called them

517
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 7: the chafferones basically of this agreement? A lot of these

518
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 7: are NATO countries. Okay, So how do you do a

519
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 7: deal that's NATO like in nature, but that does not

520
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 7: involve NATO. I think that's a fascinating component to this

521
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 7: particular negotiation.

522
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 8: Bo I think you are absolutely spot on. I mean,

523
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 8: this is going to be some pretty challenging conversations for

524
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 8: everyone to have today. Everyone wants to make sure that,

525
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 8: you know, both sides are getting something out of this deal,

526
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 8: but it's just going to be extraordinarily difficult. You know.

527
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 8: President Trump really hesitated earlier to say that you didn't

528
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 8: say that there was going to be necessarily US boots

529
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 8: on the ground, but a potential partnership with some of

530
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 8: those other countries that are present at the meeting today.

531
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 4: So going to be.

532
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 8: Keeping a very very close eye on that, maybe weapons

533
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 8: that he will be assisting them sending over as well. So,

534
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 8: like I said, BO got a lot of very high

535
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 8: level conversations happening today at the White House.

536
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 7: Let's mention those leaders again who are there. It's ers

537
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 7: Lavanderland of the EU. You have NATO Secretary General Mark Ruta,

538
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 7: Keir Starmer of the UK, Emmanuel Macrone of France, Georgia

539
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 7: Maloney of Italy, f Friedrich Meritz of Germany and Alexander Stubb.

540
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 7: But fillin, I do believe we have Steve Grueber back. Steve,

541
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 7: I called you in encyclopedia and you weren't even there

542
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 7: for me when I needed you most. But let's do

543
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 7: talk about these these leaders.

544
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 4: That are there.

545
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 7: What effects, Steve did they have on this negotiation?

546
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 5: Well, it's like having camp counselors there. I think, you know,

547
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 5: you've got the little the little kid a camp and

548
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 5: they've got the counselors there circling him to make sure

549
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 5: he doesn't do something wrong like set the barracks on.

550
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 3: Fire or whatever. That's kind of what he did the

551
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 3: last time was in the Oval Office. I think that's

552
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 3: a concern. You know, I want to go back to you.

553
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 5: You're doing the CNN polling there a moment ago and

554
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 5: to me, you know, the Ukrainians were all for a

555
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 5: fight till the end a couple of years ago, and

556
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 5: now they're like, you know what, let's just be done

557
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 5: with this, will negotiat a way out of it. It

558
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 5: reminds me of Mike Tyson. You like sports analogies. Everybody's

559
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 5: got a plan until they get punched in the nose. Well,

560
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 5: let's be honest, they've taken a big punch in the nose.

561
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 3: One point five million people killed or wounded.

562
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 5: And like Peter Deucey Aciday, do you want to redraw

563
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 5: the lines or do you want to have another one

564
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 5: hundred thousand, five hundred thousand? He didn't put a number

565
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 5: to it, but I will you want another one point

566
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 5: five million people killed and wounded? I mean, Ukraine's not

567
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 5: a big country. It only has so much to give.

568
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 5: And it's a terrible price that they're paying for a

569
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 5: war that's going nowhere. It's been basically at this standstill,

570
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 5: riding back and forth almost again to trench warfare, and

571
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 5: it's just damn sad, and so I give a lot

572
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 5: of credit. I listen and I hear these people on

573
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 5: the left screaming, well, Donald Trump, you know he's meeting

574
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 5: with Putin, he's his puppet. Well, they didn't say that

575
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 5: when George W. Bush met with Putin, or when Barack

576
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 5: Obama met with Putin, or Hillary Clinton met with Putin

577
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 5: and did all these different things. It's only when Donald

578
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 5: Trump meets with him that it's a problem. And the

579
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 5: problem here is Democrats know this. If Donald Trump is

580
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 5: able to help facilitate an under this war, and I

581
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 5: pray that he can, he's issueing for the Nobel Peace Prize.

582
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 5: You can't deny it at that point.

583
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 3: You can't.

584
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 5: If he's able to facilitate a piece here, you cannot

585
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 5: deny it.

586
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 3: And if you do deny it, then you.

587
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 5: Know that it's all garbage and nonsense and it's a

588
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 5: meaningless award. I mean, Barack Obama was awarded the Nobel

589
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 5: Peace Prize for stopping exactly zero wars. From what I recall,

590
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 5: Donald Trump, I think this will be number seven or eight.

591
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 3: I lose count.

592
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 5: I mean, he's bringing peace at a fevered pace around

593
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 5: the world.

594
00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 3: It's remarkable to watch it really is.

595
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 5: And I go back to what I said to Jack,

596
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 5: I don't think you get out of this without redrawing

597
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 5: a lot I think Peter Deucey was.

598
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 3: Right on the question. I think that the don boss

599
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 3: has probably lost. And look, I get it.

600
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 5: People do not want to reward Vladimir Putin for his behavior,

601
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 5: for his aggression.

602
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 4: I get it.

603
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 5: But there's no way around it. You're not getting Carimea back.

604
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 5: You've got let me see here. You get the Sevestopol

605
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 5: naval base. There, the Baklava submarine base, the varred Disc

606
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 5: military airfield, that all of those things have been reinforced

607
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 5: and upgraded since Russia took that piece of real, say

608
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 5: in twenty twelve.

609
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 3: So look, this is where we are.

610
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 5: We neither stop the war and seed some territory one

611
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 5: way or the other, at least Crimea at a minimum,

612
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 5: because it's been gone for thirteen years, or this meat

613
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 5: grinder can continue for another year or two or three.

614
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 3: Nobody wants that.

615
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 5: And how this plays out, by the way, also has

616
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 5: the attention of Shijingping in Beijing.

617
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 3: There's no question this is an.

618
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 5: Important outcome for what happens next on the world stage.

619
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 5: What is China see out of this?

620
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 3: These are all important questions. I think that Donald Trump

621
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 3: has projected.

622
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 5: Himself of American strength and diplomacy and leadership. And again

623
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 5: I pray that we can get something done here and Steve.

624
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 7: It kind of goes back to what President Trump said

625
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 7: as Lenski before, you don't have the cards.

626
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 5: You just don't have the cards.

627
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 3: He doesn't.

628
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 7: And here's the other thing I want to ask you

629
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 7: too about this poll. It was mentioned that there haven't

630
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 7: been elections in Ukraine in several years. Do the Ukrainians

631
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 7: have faith in their leader to be able to broke

632
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 7: her proper peace no matter what the Laya's people says.

633
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, That's what I'm wondering.

634
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 4: Do they have faith to get it done that he

635
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 4: has the cane.

636
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 5: It's a great question, you know, because again you have

637
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 5: all of these folks on the left pontificating about we

638
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 5: must save democracy in Ukraine.

639
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 3: What democracy are we saving?

640
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 5: Exactly the one that canceled all of its elections. I

641
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 5: tell you someone about American history, in the throes of

642
00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 5: the War of eighteen twelve, or the Civil War, or

643
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 5: World War one, world War two.

644
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 3: We never canceled elections in this country.

645
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 5: Ever, it didn't matter what the Unitedation's up against, even

646
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 5: when we were fighting brother against brother in places like Antietam,

647
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 5: and Gettysburg.

648
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 3: We didn't cancel elections.

649
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 5: So there's no excuse in my mind at all to

650
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 5: cancel elections in Ukraine. If you want to be in

651
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 5: the civilized nations, you hold elections, you have leadership. I

652
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 5: mean Winston Churchill got thrown out after winning World War Two.

653
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 5: A few months after winning he got tossed out by

654
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 5: the Brits. Mean that, but just stand for reelection. You

655
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 5: don't cancel the elections, not in my opinion, Bo, Not

656
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 5: in my opinion.

657
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 4: That's a hundred percent right.

658
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 7: Well, Steve, we appreciate your commentary, and as you are

659
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 7: the Human Encyclopedia, as we all know, bring us some

660
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 7: great Civil War references as well.

661
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 4: Thank you, Steve.

662
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 7: We appreciate that, and we will be returning and we

663
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 7: fin and I will be just in a few moments

664
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 7: back with more Human Events Daily and just a moment

665
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 7: on such a hopeful important day.

666
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 4: Welcome back to Human Events Daily. I am Bo Davidson,

667
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 4: filling in for.

668
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 7: Jack Kisobak, who is at the White House. Right now,

669
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 7: we're getting a live look at this family photo with

670
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 7: European leaders. You can see Donald Trump rount and center

671
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 7: alongside Vladimir Zelensky taking photos with these wonderful European leaders

672
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 7: who are not This is not NATO that you're seeing.

673
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 7: I think it's an important moment emily to consider that

674
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 7: these European leaders are there and this is not NATO,

675
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 7: because it's been a hard line for Russia that Ukraine

676
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 7: cannot join NATO, and maybe this is the foundation, Maybe

677
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 7: this is the answer that is not NATO.

678
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 4: And I think that's an.

679
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 7: Important thing to consider today is Donald Trump has coalesced

680
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 7: all these European leaders that are not NATO and said

681
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 7: we may have a different way forward.

682
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 8: Definitely taking a different approach to this bo Looking at

683
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 8: that scene right there, Zelensky looked very, very happy. He

684
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 8: had a big smile on his face. I know that

685
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 8: those conversations are going to be continuing right now. Brought

686
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 8: iting out to the rest of the group. It was

687
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 8: just Trump and Zelensky earlier, and so I'm sure that

688
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 8: these NATO conversations will be a big part of that though.

689
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I think we have Ben berkwam Rap correspondent,

690
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 7: who is the guru of all things borders. I spend

691
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 7: so much time at our southern border, but I would

692
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 7: like to take this conversation to you in terms of borders, language, culture,

693
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 7: things that Zelenski wants, things that Putin wants. We've got

694
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 7: a coalition of European leaders there and this isn't NATO,

695
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 7: and maybe this is a signal then I'd like to

696
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 7: get your thoughts on this that globalism is not the

697
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 7: answer anymore, that Donald Trump has found a different path

698
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 7: forward to create world peace that's not NATO.

699
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 4: Run.

700
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, look just real quick, on NATO, on the

701
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 9: United Nations, on the World Economic Forum, all of these

702
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 9: organizations have been taken over by communist globalists, and you

703
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 9: look at what they've done. Originally set up for good,

704
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 9: they've been bastardized basically to do evil. At this point,

705
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 9: they are not the answer, and really NATO was the

706
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 9: cause of the problem to begin with. You go back

707
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 9: to twenty fourteen, you look at the you know, the

708
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 9: mainstream media's coverage this over the last weekend and basically saying, well,

709
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 9: Obama was right because he gave a stern look, and

710
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 9: Trump's wrong because he smiled at Putin. These guys are

711
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 9: clearly out of touch with reality of how things actually

712
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 9: get done.

713
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 4: I think you're absolutely right. Now. My concern is.

714
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 9: I don't think Kiyostarma is the answer either.

715
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 4: I mean, he's not somebody that is.

716
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 9: A coalition that if I was building a coalition, He's

717
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 9: not the guy I would be putting on there. You

718
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 9: look at what radical Islam in the woke agenda of

719
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 9: the Global Reset, inviting the invasion of Islam back into Europe.

720
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 9: So Europe screwed regardless, both Western and Eastern Europe. But

721
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 9: actually Eastern Europe's doing a lot better than Western Europe

722
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 9: right now because they've actually stopped a lot of the globalist,

723
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 9: leftist United Nations push for all, you know, basically no borders,

724
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 9: no walls, this whole idea that we have of the

725
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 9: left in America. They go around chanting no borders, no walls,

726
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 9: no USA at all. Well, that's the same mindset, the

727
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 9: same model that you have in Europe and England is

728
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 9: basically being Islamized as we speak right now. And so

729
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 9: there's a whole bunch of other problems going on as well.

730
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 9: But what I think this is really is is President

731
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 9: Trump showing you don't need all of those you don't

732
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 9: need NATO, you don't need these organizations that are really

733
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 9: against our best interests. You just need a strong leader

734
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 9: in America. If we have a strong leader in America,

735
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 9: we are that shining beacon on a hill.

736
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 4: We can be that vacuum.

737
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 9: We can fill that vacuum, the power vacuum globally if

738
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 9: we choose to use the power that this nation has.

739
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 9: And we only do that when we have a president

740
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 9: like President Trump. Joe Biden had four years to do it.

741
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 9: Instead of actually helping the situation, he heard it. Barack

742
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 9: Obama had the same He was what led us into

743
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 9: this position. President Trump in his first four years stopped

744
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 9: any new wars. And you actually had Vladimir Putin say

745
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 9: if President Trump was in office, this would not have happened.

746
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 9: I mean, for him to come out and say that,

747
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 9: and then the media attacks Trump for all, I mean,

748
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,959
Speaker 9: it's just absolutely insane. We're living in this paradigm where

749
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 9: people are living one side of the world is living

750
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 9: in cognitive dissidence. The other side we're living in reality,

751
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 9: and we're watching all this happen saying there's a solution,

752
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 9: and you guys aren't it. You're the problem. So I'm

753
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 9: really hopeful. I mean, in the end, whether or not

754
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 9: President Trump gets a Nobel Peace prize or not.

755
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 4: He deserves it.

756
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 9: You look at what's going on again. You've been talking

757
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 9: about it all day. Jack's been talking about it all

758
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 9: last weekend before. Everything President Trump is doing, moving from

759
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 9: a position of strength is the answer. It's the model

760
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 9: in order to achieve these goals that we have and

761
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 9: that I believe he has as well.

762
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 7: Well, thank you, Ben, We're gonna dip in right now.

763
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 7: President Trump is sitting live with these European leaders.

764
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 4: Right now.

765
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 7: Let's take a listen in hi.

766
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: Mark see, I'm sure, yeah, good dream Well, thank you

767
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: very much. It's a great honor have you here. Special place.

768
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: White House is special no matter where you're from. Represent

769
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: so much and it's really is beautiful.

770
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 4: And thank you for.

771
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: All of the wonderful things that took place today. We've

772
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: had a very successful day thus far, important discussions as

773
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: we work to end the killing and stop the war

774
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: in Ukraine. We're all working for the same goal, very

775
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 1: simple goal. We want to stop the killing, get this settled.

776
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: I've just had the honor of being with President Zelenski

777
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 1: and all of the discussions that we've had, we covered

778
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: a lot of territory and I spoke indirectly with President

779
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: Putin today.

780
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 3: We're going to call President Putin right after this meeting.

781
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure we're gonna have a solid meeting, good meeting,

782
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: maybe a great meeting, and we're going to try and

783
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: work out a trilat after that and see if we

784
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: can get it finished. Put this to sleep, because this

785
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: is not since the Second World War has there been

786
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: anything like this. So I'm honored to welcome NATO Secretary

787
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: General Mark Ruta, who's a great gentleman, great great political

788
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: leader in Europe generally, but now he's the NATO Secretary

789
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: General and you're doing a fantastic job.

790
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 3: Thank you very much.

791
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: Mark. Prime Minister Starmer of the United Kingdom, our friend

792
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: and my friend.

793
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 3: And doing really well, and people like him a lot.

794
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 3: We all like him. Everyone knows. President Macrone of France,

795
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 3: who's been with me from the.

796
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: Beginning, one of the first people I met as a

797
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: foreign dignitary, and I like them from day one, and

798
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: I like him even more now.

799
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 4: That's pretty good. That's unusual.

800
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 1: That's a pretty unusual thing. Prime Minister Maloney of Italy,

801
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: who's a really a great leader and an inspiration over there.

802
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: She's served now even though she's a very young person.

803
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: She's served there for a long period of time relative

804
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: to others. They don't last very long.

805
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 4: You've lasted a long time.

806
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 3: You're going to be there a long.

807
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 1: Time Chancellor Mertz of Germany who is a very strong

808
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: person and a very strong leader and very highly respected

809
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: in Germany. And he's my friend and it's an honor

810
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: to have him as my friend. Thank you very much.

811
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 3: We're good.

812
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: You look great with you tan, where'd you get that?

813
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 6: Dan?

814
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 3: I want to get a ted like that.

815
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 1: President Seube of Finland and he's, uh, he's somebody that

816
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: where are we here? We're Oh, you look better than

817
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,919
Speaker 1: I've ever seen you look. But you've done a great

818
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: job and we wanted to have you here because you're

819
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: somebody that we all respect, and you've had a lot

820
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: to do with the success, I think, and the potential success.

821
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 3: And thank you very much for being here.

822
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. And the President of the European Commission,

823
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: Ursula vonder Land, who is somebody that we just made

824
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: a big deal with with all of those countries. I

825
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: don't know.

826
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 5: I think you might be more powerful than all.

827
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 3: These guys at this table.

828
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, but we had a great negotiation, and

829
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: you're respected all over the.

830
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 5: World, so I want to thank you very much for

831
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 5: being here.

832
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 3: It's a great honor have you.

833
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 1: The Alaska Summit reinforced my belief that while difficult, peace

834
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: within reach, and I believe that in a very significant step,

835
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: President Putin agreed that Russia would accept security guarantees for Ukraine,

836
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: and this is one of the key points that we

837
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: need to consider, and we're going to be considering that

838
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: at the table also like who will do what. Essentially,

839
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm optimistic that collectively we can reach an agreement that

840
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: would deter any future aggression against Ukraine.

841
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 3: And I actually think there won't be.

842
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: I think that's even overrated, largely overrated. But we're going

843
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 1: to find out, and I think that the European nations are.

844
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 3: Going to take a lot of the burden.

845
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: We're going to help them and.

846
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 3: We're going to make it very secure.

847
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: We also need to discuss the possible exchanges of territory,

848
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:09,760
Speaker 1: taken into consideration the current line of contact that means.

849
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 3: The war zone, the war lines that are.

850
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: Pretty obvious, very sad actually to look at them, and

851
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: negotiating positions. President Putin, also you have President of Ukraine,

852
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: who is you just met a little while ago, and

853
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: we're going to try and get a three party meeting

854
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: maybe as soon as we can. And I have a

855
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 1: feeling you and President Putin are going to work something out.

856
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 4: Ultimately.

857
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: This is a decision that can only be made by

858
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: President Zelenski and by the people of Ukraine working also

859
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: together in agreement with President Putin, and I just think

860
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: that's very good.

861
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 3: Things are going to come of it.

862
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: So I hope we have a good meeting, and if

863
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: we can have a good meeting, I'll set up a

864
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: meeting with President Putin if you'd like. I'll go to

865
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: that meeting. And not that I want to do that,

866
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: but I will do that because we want to save

867
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: a lot of people from dying. A lot of people

868
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: are dying, and we got to save them. We got

869
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: to save it five thousand and six thousand, seven thousand

870
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 1: people sometimes a week. All of us would obviously prefer

871
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: an immediate ceasefire while we work on a lasting piece,

872
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: and maybe something like that could happen, as if this

873
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: moment it's not happening. But President Zolensky and President Putin

874
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: can talk a little bit more about that you know,

875
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: and the six or so wars that we stopped, we

876
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: haven't had a ceasefire, and so I don't know that

877
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: it's necessary. You can do it through the war, but

878
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: it would be I like to cease fire from another standpoint,

879
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,439
Speaker 1: you immediately stop the killing. But I believe a peace

880
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: agreement at the end of all of this is something

881
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: that's very attainable and it can be done in the

882
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: near future. With all of the wars that I got involved,

883
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: and we only have this one left. Versus I walk

884
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: out the door, they'll probably be a new one starting

885
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: and I'll get that stuff too. But I thought this

886
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: was going to be one of the easier ones. It's

887
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: actually one of the most difficult. They're very complex. The

888
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 1: next step would be for a trilateral meeting and that

889
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: will be worked out, and I just look forward to.

890
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 3: Working and having a great result.

891
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 1: We're going to spend a lot of time today talking

892
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: about and we're.

893
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 3: Really honored you guys came over.

894
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: I mean, these are the heads of major countries and

895
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: respect it all over Europe and they speak for largely,

896
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: I think, I should say, but pretty much for the

897
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: other countries of Europe, and we will.

898
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 3: Come to a resolution.

899
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: Today, I think on almost everything, including probably the security,

900
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: and that's pretty.

901
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 4: Much the story.

902
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 1: I'd like to say, mister President, would you like to

903
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: say something. You have the media if you want, you

904
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: could come over and you could