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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Jesse Kelly Show. That is my uh,

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Speaker 2: that's Gavin Rossdale, machine Head Bush. I've seen I've gone

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Speaker 2: to see him multiple times, Gavin Rossdale. So you can

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Speaker 2: tell I'm a millennial, right. My first concert I ever

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Speaker 2: went to in my life, I was sixteen years old. Sixteen, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was sixteen. And by the way, this is Lydia

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Speaker 2: Saran I filling in for Jesse Kelly again. You can

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Speaker 2: follow me on social media at Lydia News l I

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Speaker 2: d I A n e WS and you can watch

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Speaker 2: me on Newsmax. I was a reporter at Fox five

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Speaker 2: for several years. Then I was at WABC Radio in

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Speaker 2: New York City, and now I'm at Newsmax Saturday's at

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Speaker 2: five o'clock five pm Eastern and then Sundays at noon Eastern.

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Speaker 2: I'm filling in for Carl Higbee this Bride at six

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Speaker 2: pm Eastern, and so I fill in on primetime usually

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Speaker 2: during the week. So when I was sixteen years old,

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Speaker 2: I stole my parents minivan, I got my license, I

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Speaker 2: got my permit, and I had never you ever see

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Speaker 2: that movie Clueless where the girls are on the Highway

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Speaker 2: and they started screaming like that was me. And So

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Speaker 2: I went to high school in the Bronx Cardinals Spelmane

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Speaker 2: and so I never and I lived in Yonkers at

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Speaker 2: and I never drove on the highway before. So I

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Speaker 2: stole my parents minivan and we loaded up all the

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Speaker 2: I loaded up all my friends, these girls because I

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Speaker 2: was obsessed with Bush and they were playing at Jones

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Speaker 2: the Long Island Expressway. I mean, I remember, I'd never

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Speaker 2: even been to Long Island before. The only beach I

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Speaker 2: in the Bronx and Yonkers was Orchard Beach, which is

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Speaker 2: So I had never been to Jones Beach. I had

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Speaker 2: never and here I was like driving with like a

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Speaker 2: was epic.

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Speaker 2: The lead the lead act was the Google was Google Dolls, right,

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Speaker 2: Google Dolls, then No Doubt and Bush. And this was

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Speaker 2: late nineties. This was the height of Gavin Rossdale, the

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Speaker 2: epitome of hotness and He's like sixty years old now

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Speaker 2: and I still go and see him. My husband is aware.

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Speaker 2: He's come with me, and I swear Gavin Rossdale every

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Speaker 2: time I'm in the pit too. I'm one of those freaks.

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Speaker 2: be like by the stage, I get all into it.

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Speaker 2: I get into the zone. I know all the songs

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Speaker 2: and we always make eye contact. Gavin Rossdale and not

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Speaker 2: in my mind, I have this like I think he

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Speaker 2: at the concert, like you know, I've touched him and

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Speaker 2: stuff like that. You know, don't don't get any I'm

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Speaker 2: not that kind of way I touched him. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: I like alternative music like Pearl Jam and that kind

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Speaker 2: alternative music and hard music. But that's what I like.

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Speaker 2: Guns n' Roses, all that kind of stuff from back then.

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Speaker 2: And I feel like nowadays there isn't that kind of

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Speaker 2: call screener because we're bare bones because it's the holidays,

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Speaker 2: There there are no good new bands anymore, back in

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Speaker 2: leftist or this pearl jam. I don't care. I don't care.

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Speaker 2: I don't care what your politics are. I really don't

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Speaker 2: amazing music. I know. I know that guy what's his name,

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Speaker 2: now you kind of understand where how I am. So

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Speaker 2: I grew up in a very strict household my parents. First,

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Speaker 2: I wore the baggy jeans. I was like the gwing

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Speaker 2: I like to dress like Gwen Stefani type of situation.

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Speaker 2: So the reason, that's that's what brings me all to this.

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Speaker 2: So Gwen Stefani is the lead singer of No Doubt.

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Speaker 2: She was married to Gavin Rossdale and they met on

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Speaker 2: no offense. So Gwen Sefani got a lot of hate

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Speaker 2: recently because she was promoting that Hallow app, which is

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Speaker 2: a Christian app, right, and it's about prayer. I actually

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Speaker 2: have the app, and all she did was say, you know,

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Speaker 2: during this holiday season, we should pray more. And so

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Speaker 2: there was all these articles written about her, slamming her, saying,

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Speaker 2: that's what they called it. If you have the app,

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Speaker 2: nowhere does it talk about abortion. It has masses, it

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Speaker 2: again this is how the left manipulates. You look at

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Speaker 2: And this is what happens with people. We're attacked for

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Speaker 2: are offended. Apparently if you say Merry Christmas. And this

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Speaker 2: not going to say Merry Christmas anymore. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: saying instead of just saying Merry Christmas. Maybe we all

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's what we need to do from now on.

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Speaker 2: But I wanted you to listen to jd Vance. He

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Speaker 2: this is a Christian nation in one nation under God,

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Speaker 4: The only thing that is truly served as an anchor

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why was that offensive? And you have President Trump

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Speaker 2: saying Merry Christmas. They put a Nativity scene, that's what

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Speaker 2: that's what this holiday is about. I saw Dana Carvey,

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Speaker 2: He was on I believe with David Spade. They won't

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Speaker 2: They said, oh, enjoy the holiday, and it says it

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Speaker 2: but and at what point, you know, I saw I

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Speaker 2: say Merry Christmas if I know the person is Jewish. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I still say Merry Christmas because it's my holiday. I mean,

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Speaker 2: say like something else, it's Happy New Year. It's Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 2: It's my holiday. And if it's their holiday, I'll say

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Speaker 2: it's their holiday like Muslims got to bite them whatever,

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Speaker 2: So whoa whatever. So it's my holiday, it's our holiday.

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Speaker 2: Merry Christmas, the One True Savior, our Lord Jesus Christ

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Speaker 2: celebrating his birth. Maybe that's what we'll say. So when

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Speaker 1: This is a Jesse Kelly Show.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Jesse Kelly Show. That is my girl,

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Speaker 2: Gwen Stefani. She's on, you know, under attack for being

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Speaker 2: it's so ridiculous. I just saw this. I saw this

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Speaker 2: Because that's what I like to do. I want people

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Speaker 2: when they watch my shows they listen to me that

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Speaker 2: they say, you know what that Lydia had said, because

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Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of the truth stories that

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Speaker 2: this story. Christian NFL players call for action against religious

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Speaker 2: persecution in Nigeria. The lives at stake cannot wait more

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Speaker 2: than sixty current and former NFL players are banding together

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Speaker 2: and urging action from the US against the ongoing religious

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Speaker 2: persecution in Nigeria. The presidents, they sent the players sent

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Speaker 2: the President a letter to high ranking government officials, including

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Speaker 2: of course the President, as well as House Speaker Mike Johnson.

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Speaker 2: The letter rights, Religious and ethnic persecution in Nigeria has

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Speaker 2: reached a level that demands immediate, concrete action from the

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Speaker 2: United States. And it's you know, among the sixty current

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of them. There's a lot of them

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Speaker 2: from Houston, the New York Giants, Sawbrock Party, San Francisco,

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Speaker 2: forty nine Ers, CJ. CJ. Stroud, Houston Texans, Trayvon Henderson,

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Speaker 2: New England Patriots, you name it. The Letter Rights. As

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Speaker 2: the National Football League, we feel a moral responsibility to

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Speaker 2: speak for those whose cries have gone on answered for

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Speaker 2: far too long. So nobody talks about it, about what's

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Speaker 2: going on in Nigeria, that there is kids are being

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Speaker 2: you know, Boko Haram, that is an Islamic terror group.

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Speaker 2: They'll just say, oh, it's warlords, they're fighting, they're infighting.

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Speaker 2: Nobody wants to say, what's really happening. And what's really

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Speaker 2: happening is you've got Islamic radicals that are chopping people's

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Speaker 2: and nuns, you name it. Nobody wants to talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Why is that? Why is it? Is it because they're black?

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Jesse Kelly Show. I am Lydia

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Speaker 3: when he was pope, but he died in twenty five

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Speaker 3: and and he said, yes, there's a deliberate war going

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Speaker 3: on of the strong against the weak, and whether these

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Speaker 3: there's a terrible war. It's the same that it's the

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Speaker 3: war against marriage. It's a war against the family. It's

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Speaker 3: a war against the innocence of young life. And when

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Speaker 3: we speak up about that, that's those same warriors in

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Speaker 3: the radical left culture of death are going to treat us,

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Speaker 3: the advocates for these children, in the same way that

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Speaker 3: they treat the children themselves. They will try to obliterate

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Speaker 3: us in one way or another.

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Speaker 2: Again, we're speaking with father Frank Pavone and mother Teresa

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Speaker 2: again she is our Albanian hero. She talked about abortion.

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Speaker 2: She said, I quote, I feel the greatest destroyer of

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Speaker 2: peace today is abortion, because it is a war against

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Speaker 2: the child, a direct killing of the innocent child, murdered

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Speaker 2: by the mother herself. And if we can accept that

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Speaker 2: a mother can kill even her own child, how can

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Speaker 2: we tell other people not to kill one another? How

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Speaker 2: do we persuade a woman not to have an abortion?

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Speaker 2: As always, we must persuade her with love, and we

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Speaker 2: must remind ourselves that love means to be willing to

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Speaker 2: give until it hurts. And yet, and we know the

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Speaker 2: number one killer of young of black babies is abortion.

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Speaker 2: And again you have the Democrat party that advocates for

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Speaker 2: the killing of children. I mean, what do you think,

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Speaker 2: Father Pavone is Can you be a Christian and be

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Speaker 2: a Democrat?

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Speaker 3: Not anymore? Certainly there was a time when you could.

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Speaker 3: And the reason that we say this is is not

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Speaker 3: to judge any particular person. I know that obviously. I

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Speaker 3: mean in my own life and the lives of you know,

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Speaker 3: so many of our listeners. You know, we know people

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Speaker 3: who identify as Democrats who we say, wait a minute,

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Speaker 3: these are very good people, They're very Christian people. When

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Speaker 3: we say this, we're not judging any particular individual. What

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Speaker 3: we're saying is that being a Christian means that you

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Speaker 3: embrace certain teachings. One of them we're talking about now,

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Speaker 3: the sanctity of life, and there are many other teachings,

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Speaker 3: the meaning of marriage, the meaning of family, and and

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Speaker 3: and many other moral stances as well. Christianity has a content.

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Speaker 3: It's not just oh, I pray to God. I believe

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Speaker 3: in Jesus. Jesus taught certain specific things. He established a

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Speaker 3: church which teaches very specific things. So it's not you know,

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Speaker 3: I let me just put the label on myself and

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Speaker 3: I'll invent whatever I want to believe. It has a content.

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Speaker 3: Then you look at the Democrat party, it has a

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Speaker 3: content too. There are certain dogmas, there are certain positions

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Speaker 3: in the platform and in the in the what has

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Speaker 3: become the you might say, the ideological uh practice and

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Speaker 3: commitment of the Democrat Party, and one of those things

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Speaker 3: is to unlimited abortion. I mean, find me a Democrat

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Speaker 3: that says there should be certain limits on even late

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Speaker 3: term abortion, and you know, I'll give you a prize

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Speaker 3: because they're awful hard to find. We're talking about, you know,

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Speaker 3: the people you know, in in positions, in public positions.

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Speaker 3: So this is why what you just said is is true.

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Speaker 3: You cannot be not in our day and age.

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Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere, father Pavon. We're going to continue this conversation.

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Speaker 2: If you guys remember former Speaker Nancy Pelosi. She was

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Speaker 2: denied communion the Eucharist, which we Catholics believe is the

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Speaker 2: body of Christ. This was by a San Francisco Archbishop,

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Speaker 2: Salvatore Cordolioni. He publicly stated in May twenty twenty two

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Speaker 2: that she was barred from receiving Holy Communion because of

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Speaker 2: her persistent support of killing the unborn unfettered. She wanted

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Speaker 2: you to be able. She still believes it. So this

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Speaker 2: woman's going to burn in hell. We're going to talk

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Speaker 2: a little bit more about her, because you know, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm not here to judge. I know, Father, you don't

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Speaker 2: judge people. I judge her. I think she's a horrible

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Speaker 2: discussing human being. When we return, stay there, father, don't

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Speaker 2: go anywhere. We're going to continue talking about this and

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Speaker 2: why Christian persecution continues to be ignored, but not by

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Speaker 2: President Trump. He is he is looking into it. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna get to the bottom of it. Don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 2: I'm Lydia Soarran I in for Jesse Kelly, and we're

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Speaker 2: going to be right.

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Speaker 1: Back truth Attitude.

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Speaker 2: Jesse Kelly, Welcome back to the Jesse Kelly Show. I

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Speaker 2: am Lydia Soarran I at Lydia News l I d

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Speaker 2: I A n e WS. It's been so amazing to

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Speaker 2: be on with you guys this evening. I'll be back

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Speaker 2: tomorrow to fill in for Jesse again. We were talking

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Speaker 2: before about Nancy Pelosi and what a disgrace she is

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Speaker 2: and she claims to be a Catholics like Joe Biden.

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Speaker 2: Here's I want you to clip nine. Here's what she

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Speaker 2: listen to this.

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Speaker 7: Such a consequential president of the United States, a Mount

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Speaker 7: Rushmore kind of president of the United States. Want to

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Speaker 7: know what comes next, that he belongs up there on

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Speaker 7: Mount Rushmore Lincoln. And but you got Teddy Roosevelt up there,

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Speaker 7: and he's wonderful. I don't say take him down, but

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Speaker 7: you can add Biden.

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Speaker 2: She's so crazy, she's father provone. Why is it that

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Speaker 2: the church is so for not I don't even want

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Speaker 2: to say it's forgiving, so permissible when it comes to

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Speaker 2: people that openly contradict fundamentally what the church stands for

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Speaker 2: and what Jesus Christ himself would be vehemently against. So

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Speaker 2: why allow people like Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi in

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Speaker 2: these and Kathy Hokel who claims to be Catholics, Why

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Speaker 2: allow them to get to allow them to receive the

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Speaker 2: Body of Christ? What kind of message does that send?

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Speaker 3: Well, Lydia, it's bad leadership. And you know that's actually

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Speaker 3: how our ministry arose. Some years ago, I got into

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Speaker 3: a big public spat with Nancy Pelosi because in a

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Speaker 3: press conference where she was asked about legislation limiting late

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Speaker 3: term abortion and whether she'd be in favor of that,

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Speaker 3: she starts off by saying, oh, well, you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: a sincere practicing Catholic, you know, and then when people

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Speaker 3: started pointing out myself included that, wait a minute, your

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Speaker 3: position contradicts the very Catholic faith you claim to embrace.

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Speaker 3: You know what her response was, Oh, well, you know

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Speaker 3: this is a private matter, you know, between me and God,

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Speaker 3: and you know my bishop and my priest. I said,

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Speaker 3: wait one minute. You are the one who said you're

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Speaker 3: a faithful, practicing Catholic. At that moment, you made your

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Speaker 3: faith a public matter, and and you said that in

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Speaker 3: reference to a piece of legislation. You could have just

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Speaker 3: addressed the legislation. You could have just addressed the fact

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Speaker 3: that your party and your policies allow killing a healthy

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Speaker 3: baby carried by a healthy mother in the seventh, eighth,

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Speaker 3: and ninth months of pregnancy. But no, you didn't want

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Speaker 3: to address the merits of the issue. You wanted to

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Speaker 3: try to hide behind your oh, faithful, sincere practicing Catholic.

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Speaker 3: You didn't have to bring up your faith at all.

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Speaker 3: I say the same thing about Joe Biden. You know,

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Speaker 3: Oh I carried to Rosary and oh I received. You know,

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Speaker 3: why do we care about that? We elected you to

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Speaker 3: be a president, not a pastor. Tell us about the

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Speaker 3: policy and try to justify So the bottom line is Lydia.

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Speaker 3: You know why these people feel so confident in invoking

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Speaker 3: their Catholicism and taking positions completely contrary to Catholicism because

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Speaker 3: they have got priests that they go to who are

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Speaker 3: misleading them. They're not coming to this on their own.

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Speaker 3: They're not theologians. They're relying on on priests who are

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Speaker 3: telling them, oh, you know, don't worry, there's justification for

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Speaker 3: taking these positions. That's why I lead a ministry called

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Speaker 3: Priests for Life, because which time there's need for reform

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Speaker 3: in the church. Just like we've got weak and cowardly

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Speaker 3: politicians that will talk and talk and talk and you

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Speaker 3: don't know what in the world they just said. So

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Speaker 3: we have the same problem in the pulpit where you've

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Speaker 3: got this vacuous, cowardly beating around the bush. They're they're

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Speaker 3: talking and and and they're not changing anyone. They're not

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Speaker 3: challenging anyone. It's all this feel good garbage. No, we

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Speaker 3: need renewal within the clergy. Just we need the spirit

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Speaker 3: that President Trump has brought into the political world and

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Speaker 3: the fight fight fight, and the clear talking and and

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Speaker 3: the and the and the kind of talking that resonates

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Speaker 3: with the hearts and passions of the American people sitting

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Speaker 3: in their living rooms. This is what we need coming

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Speaker 3: from the pulpit, and that's what our ministry tries to do,

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Speaker 3: and it includes challenging exactly the problem you are just

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Speaker 3: bringing out in the in the in the likes of

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Speaker 3: Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden and unfortunately a whole bunch

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Speaker 3: of others at various levels of government.

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Speaker 2: Father Frank Pavone, I always love having you on and

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Speaker 2: where again can people find you and reach you and

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Speaker 2: talk to you because you are just I love the

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Speaker 2: way you are just such a defender, of course of

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Speaker 2: the unborn, but also of the truth.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you. I'm at f are Frank Pavone on

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Speaker 3: all the social media platforms f R Frank Pavone and

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Speaker 3: our main website is pro life Central dot org, pro

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Speaker 3: Lifecentral dot org.

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Speaker 2: Father Pavone, thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Thanks Lydia.

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Speaker 2: God bless God, bless everyone out there listening to this.

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Speaker 2: You know there is even these nativity displays. I saw

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Speaker 2: it in I think it's Metam, Massachusetts, where they said,

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Speaker 2: oh Mary they had they don't have Mary and Jesus there.

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Speaker 2: We all know that baby Jesus isn't there until Christmas Day,

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Speaker 2: but they don't even have Marry and Jesus. And they said, oh,

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Speaker 2: it's because of ice. And the archdiocese told them to

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Speaker 2: put them, to put them back, and they were the

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Speaker 2: priest is refusing, you know, they stop comparing what's going

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Speaker 2: on with Mary and Jesus and Joseph, because they were

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Speaker 2: not illegal aliens. They were going to Egypt, they left Bethlehem.

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Speaker 2: They were going to answer for a census. So stop

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Speaker 2: with the lies, stop with the bs. Stands up for

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Speaker 2: the truth. And I actually go to a different church

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Speaker 2: now because my priest was spewing these stupid knights on

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Speaker 2: sensical lies about migrants and this and that. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's at the end of the day, you just gotta

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Speaker 2: call it like it is and speak the truth. Because

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Speaker 2: what did you to say, I'm the Way, the truth,

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Speaker 2: and the light right. He didn't say, I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to tell you the truth if it hurts your feelings.

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Speaker 2: So it's been an awesome experience being with you guys.

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Speaker 2: As always again, I'm Lydia Saran I Lydia News l

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Speaker 2: I d I A N e w S. God bless

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Speaker 2: you guys, Merry Christmas. I look forward to talking to

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Speaker 2: you tomorrow, and have a great and blessed night, and

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Speaker 2: trust and remember that God is with you and always always,