1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:04,559 Speaker 1: Hello Sunshine. 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 2: Hey besties, Today on the bright Side, what a show 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 2: we have for you. We are joined by the most 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: awarded artist in the history of the Academy of Country 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 2: Music Awards, the three time Grammy winner Miranda Lambert. Her 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: new album Postcards from Texas is out tomorrow, and she's 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 2: here to talk about the power of going back to 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 2: her roots, the magic in finding her voice, plus the 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 2: craziest thing she's ever done for love. It's Thursday, September twelfth. 10 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 2: I'm Simone Boyce. 11 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: I'm Danielle Robe and this is the bright Side from 12 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: Hello Sunshine, a daily show where we come together to 13 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: share women's stories, laugh, learn and brighten your day. 14 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: Okay, Danielle, you're an og Miranda Lambert fan, right, I 15 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 2: actually am. 16 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: You Know what's funny is I grew up in Chicago, 17 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: and people don't think country music when they think Chicago, 18 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: but there's a huge country fan base. I think maybe 19 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: we get it from the surrounding areas, from Indiana, from Michigan, 20 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: from Iowa, and so I grew up listening to country music, 21 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: particularly in high school and became a Miranda fan. And 22 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: then when I grew up, I became a Miranda Fan 23 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: for a different reason. 24 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 3: What was that reason? 25 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: So we think of the women of country music, the 26 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: legacy country artist being Shania Twain, Reba Dolly Parton, and 27 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: I felt like they all kind of handed the keys 28 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: to Miranda Lampert. So when you think of the country 29 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: artists today that are all on our radar, like Casey Musgraves, 30 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: Maren Morris, Kelsey Ballerini, Laney Wilson, Carly Pearce, you don't 31 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: get any of these women without Miranda Lampert. She broke stereotypes. 32 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: She had this fearless approach to songwriting, She embraced heartbreak, 33 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: she talks about being a wild She expanded the genre's narrative. 34 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: Like she just had so much cultural impact that I 35 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: almost feel like it was this explosion of feminism in 36 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: country and it happened because of Miranda. 37 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 2: Miranda has this tattoo of the word wild on her foot, 38 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: and I don't have any tattoos on my body, but 39 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 2: if I did, it would be the word wild somewhere. Wait, 40 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 2: why because wild is just how I want to approach life. 41 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: I just I always want to be primed for an adventure. 42 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 2: I've been that way ever since I was a little girl, 43 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 2: and I just I'm a free spirit. That's that's where 44 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: I feel most free is when I'm in my wild element. 45 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: Hmmm, all right, well, you guys have something in common. 46 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 47 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 2: To be honest, I'm really excited to get to know 48 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: Miranda better in this interview because we all know her 49 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 2: as this major force in country music for over twenty years. 50 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: But I'm really curious to know how she did it. 51 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 1: Well, let's give everyone a little background. So she burst 52 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: onto the country music scene in two thousand and one 53 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 1: when she released her Day You self titled, self financed 54 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: album at eighteen years old, all right, and through her 55 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: illustrious careers, she's been honored by the Grammy Awards, the 56 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: Academy of Country Music Awards, the Country Music Association Awards, 57 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: like there's no award in country music that this woman 58 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: does not have, and NPR called her the most riveting 59 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: country star of our generation. 60 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 2: She truly is royalty at these Country Music Award shows too. 61 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: I've covered a couple of them, and I always love 62 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: doing it because everyone in country music is so nice. 63 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 3: Sometimes when you're. 64 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: Covering Hollywood events, like you never know what kind of 65 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: attitudes you're gonna get I'm just keeping it hundred percent real. 66 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: But everyone in country music there's this era of like 67 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: just gratitude and realness and down to earthness, if that's 68 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: a word. And I remember speaking to up and coming 69 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: country music artists, especially women, and Miranda is just as 70 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: much of a legend to them as all the other 71 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: women you mentioned, like Shanaia and Reba and Leanne Rhymes. 72 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: So she clearly carries such a presence in this genre 73 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: and is an inspiration to so many emerging artists. And 74 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: now Miranda's going back to her roots with her new album, 75 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: Postcards from Texas that's out tomorrow, and get ready for 76 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 2: the song titles, y'all. They're so candid and hilarious at 77 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: the same time. We're talking songs like I Hate Love 78 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 2: Songs and Bitch on the Sauce, which there's a lyric 79 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 2: in that song that says the heart is a bitch 80 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: on the sauce, meaning like the heart is just like 81 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,679 Speaker 2: a girl who's drunk, which I think is a really 82 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: great way of looking at heartache and heartbreak. So from 83 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: all this and so much more, it's clear that this 84 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: is her truest and most real album yet. So let's 85 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: bring her in, Miranda Lambert, Welcome to the bright side. 86 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 3: Thank you. How are y'all doing. 87 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: We're great, We're talking to you. We're so good. 88 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: Yay, okay, good congratulations are in order for you, Miranda, 89 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 2: because your new album, Postcards from Texas, comes out tomorrow. 90 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: It's fourteen songs. You recorded the album in Austin, and 91 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: Postcards from Texas is symbolically a bit of a homecoming 92 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: for you. I read that this is actually your truest 93 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: and most real album yet. Did you feel like you 94 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,559 Speaker 2: had kind of lost a part of yourself along the way. 95 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 3: I never have lost myself. 96 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 4: I think the reason I wanted to go home and 97 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 4: record was because the first time I ever made a 98 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 4: record was in Texas and Dallas, and since then, I've 99 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 4: been on a label for twenty years and I've had 100 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 4: this awesome journey, really long career, which is all I 101 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 4: ever set out to do. But I signed with a 102 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 4: new label, and the enthusiasm and inspiration of having new 103 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 4: teams that lead with art made me want to really 104 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 4: make sure that I just went straight back to the 105 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 4: root of what started this whole thing. So it's just 106 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 4: kind of a full circle twenty year sort of record 107 00:05:58,839 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 4: that needed to be made. 108 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: Speaking of what started the whole thing, what was the 109 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: song that changed your career? 110 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 3: House It Built Me? 111 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: I just listened to that this morning. 112 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 4: House It Built Me is a cornerstone of my career. 113 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 4: It was at a time where I really was starting 114 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 4: to get like backed in a corner a little bit, like, Oh, 115 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 4: I'm a firebrand, I'm feisty, I'm fiery, all these words 116 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 4: that were used to describe me. I'm a little pistol 117 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 4: like it was. That is a huge part of who 118 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 4: I am. But it was songs like Kerosene on my 119 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 4: first record, and then Crazy Ex Girlfriend and Gunpowder and 120 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 4: Lead and I just I had a lot more to 121 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,559 Speaker 4: say than that, but that was kind of what people 122 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 4: were drawn to. And when House It Built Me came along, 123 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 4: people started really pay attention to, like, oh, she has 124 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 4: different parts of her personality. This is like a really 125 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 4: touching story, and this is a vulnerable song, and that 126 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 4: song is just it's still just such a huge, huge 127 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 4: song for me every night. But I think it's everybody's 128 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 4: story and that's why that song is what it is. 129 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: I think that's why your music resonates with people, particularly women, 130 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: so deeply. Your songs have been the soundtrack to so 131 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: many of my breakups. 132 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 4: I have to tell you that makes me happy. I mean, 133 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 4: I'm glad I was there for your girl. 134 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: Thank you. Without even knowing it, you know, I was 135 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: reading that they call you and they meaning like the 136 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: country music world, call you a wild card. Why do 137 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: you think they say that? 138 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 4: I don't know either, but I do have a wild 139 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 4: card tattoo, wild card up my sleeve, so that could 140 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 4: have something to do with it. It's probably right, I 141 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 4: you know, I think I just am not afraid to 142 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 4: take risks. And even if the choices I make musically 143 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 4: or in my career or something that I stand for 144 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 4: makes the road longer and harder, I'm still willing to 145 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 4: do that. 146 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 3: So I guess that's probably. 147 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: What they mean when they say that, because I read 148 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: that you said one time, I just rather would do 149 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: it my way. And yeah, your songs have always been 150 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: very woman coded, if I could put it that way, 151 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: and you call out sexism in country music quite often. 152 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a whole US Weekly article about throughout 153 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: the years, every single time you've done it, and there. 154 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 4: Is, yes, I know that I don't oh man, see 155 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 4: I get myself in trouble. 156 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's not trouble. I think you're speaking for us 157 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: in so many ways. But there's a lot of sexism 158 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: to me, even in the entertainment industry that feels obvious. 159 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: I'm really curious about the more insidious kind, like what 160 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 1: happened while you were coming up, or what happens now 161 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: that we don't see or we don't hear about what 162 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: do you deal with? 163 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 4: I think all women deal with on some level the 164 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 4: same problems, especially if you're really strong and you're really 165 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 4: determined and are very confident. I think it can be 166 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 4: intimidating to the wrong people, you know, but those are 167 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 4: the wrong people. 168 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 3: They're not your people. 169 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 4: And I feel lucky because in country music, as far 170 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 4: as the male artists go, like, they've been pretty amazing. 171 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 3: I mean, they're usually lifting up. 172 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 4: I've had a really good run with Like the first 173 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 4: tours I ever was on with Keith Urban in two 174 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 4: thousand and five. 175 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 3: I learned so much from him. 176 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 4: He was so kind to me and took me under 177 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 4: his wing, and then Derek Spentley and Brad Paisley. I 178 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 4: was on tour with Tobey Keith Door Straight Oh Royalty 179 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 4: Kenny Chesney was such a huge supporter of mine and 180 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 4: took me on tour tour three times and taught me 181 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 4: a lot of great things. It was a very male 182 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 4: dominated scene at that time, and there wasn't a lot 183 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 4: of women touring, so it was a man's world. But 184 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 4: I was lucky to have some of those artists really 185 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 4: kind of show me the way or show me what 186 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 4: not to do. I mean, there were those lessons too, 187 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 4: so I am fortunate that in country music world I 188 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 4: had that. But there's obviously, you know, I've been doing 189 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 4: this for twenty years, There's been a lot of circumstances 190 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 4: that were harder to deal with with, and we're obstacles 191 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 4: and sometimes I feel like when you know exactly who 192 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 4: you are, it scares people and they don't know how 193 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 4: to move forward with you and how to deal with. 194 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 3: Someone that's really headstrong. 195 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 4: So that's why I say it made my road a 196 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 4: little harder and longer sometimes, but it's the reward was 197 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 4: worth it because I was authentic to me. And that's 198 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 4: my biggest advice to like young artists is like know 199 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 4: who you are, stick with it no matter what. Don't 200 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 4: let anybody change you, even if it means, oh, well, 201 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 4: I could have had a number one, or I could 202 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 4: have skipped a few steps if I would have just 203 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 4: kind of sold out. 204 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 3: It's not worth it. 205 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 2: We have to take a quick break, but we'll be 206 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 2: right back with Miranda Lambert. And we're back with Miranda Lambert. 207 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: There was a quote that stood out to me so 208 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: much about your story. Early on, your mom would call 209 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: and try and get you booked on gigs and people 210 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 1: would say, we don't book girls. 211 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 3: Yeah they would. I mean I heard that a lot, 212 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 3: and that was that's wild. 213 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: You know. 214 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 4: It's one of those situations where you're like you don't 215 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 4: have any experience, Like, well, you're not giving me a 216 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 4: chance to get any Like how do I get experience 217 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 4: if you won't let me on the stage, you know. 218 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 3: So I used to play there and set change. 219 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 4: Like go to these clubs and like whatever first guy 220 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 4: act was on, like while they were wrapping up their 221 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 4: chords and cleaning up their stuff and the next guy 222 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 4: was plugging in his guitar. I'd play like two or 223 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 4: three songs and they would just be like winding chords 224 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 4: or on my feet. But it was it was a 225 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 4: way for me to get up there. And get some 226 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 4: like experience under my belt and to start learning my 227 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 4: chops and to see if I had what it took. 228 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 4: I needed to see that for myself, and there was 229 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 4: no other way to see it than go do it. 230 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: How often do you think about those early days now? 231 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: Do you find yourself like reflecting on that time? 232 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 3: Ever? 233 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: Yeah? 234 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 4: I mean I just played Stubs in Austin, Texas, which 235 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 4: is tiny little barbecue joint that's like legendary, and it 236 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 4: was almost twenty years to the day that I had 237 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 4: been on that same stage doing my first showcase for 238 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 4: a major label, and that was a full circle moment. 239 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 3: But I just loved it. 240 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 4: So much, and it reminded me like, I still love 241 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 4: this as much as I did then. I still have 242 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 4: the same amount of passion for it. Yes, I don't 243 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 4: have the same amount of energy and or patients that 244 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 4: I used to have for the bullshit, but I definitely 245 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 4: still have the passion and love for it. 246 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 2: I want to talk about the bullshit a little bit 247 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 2: because nobody brings honest I. 248 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 3: Brought it up, so. 249 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 2: Nobody brings honesty and humor the way that you do 250 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: as you write your life experience into your lyrics. There's 251 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 2: this one quote that I read of yours. You said 252 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: there's a lot of bad decisions on this record, meaning 253 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 2: Postcards from Texas. And you said that you don't learn 254 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 2: from things going great. Yeah, what is a lesson you've 255 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 2: learned from something not going great? 256 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 3: Oh? 257 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: Man? 258 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 3: So many? 259 00:12:55,320 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 4: I mean, I you know, from heartbreak to divorce to like, 260 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 4: you know, the music business. I mean, it'll break your 261 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 4: heart in a hot minute. I learned from all the nose. 262 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 4: I learned from all of the you know, anytime some 263 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 4: of those people would be like, we don't book girls, 264 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 4: it's like, well watch me, I'm gonna figure out a way. 265 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 4: And I'm I wouldn't have learned If everyone was like, here, 266 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 4: let's open the door and roll out the carpet for you, 267 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 4: make your journey easy. I wouldn't have had the grit 268 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 4: that I have now, or the try, or the hunger, 269 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 4: because I think when you're hungry for something, that's what 270 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 4: creates this passion and this drive. 271 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 3: If it's just. 272 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 4: Easy and it all comes easy and natural, it doesn't 273 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 4: create like the work ethic that I think hunger and 274 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 4: like somebody telling you you're not gonna make it. 275 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 3: It's just like lots of fire, and. 276 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 4: I can see in your eyes you're the same as me, 277 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 4: Like most of y'all are like, oh yeah, tell me 278 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 4: I can't and watch me do it twice. 279 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 3: You know. 280 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: Well, I think a lot of successful artists have that 281 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: in common. There's this inner dialogue, inner monologue that you 282 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: have to develop and you can't let the nose get 283 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 2: to you. How did you process them in your mind? 284 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: Like did you immediately think no, I can do this? 285 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 2: What was that inner dialogue? 286 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 4: Like I think it was, you know, I would study 287 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 4: up to I study like all the artists that I'd 288 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 4: ever loved, and like read articles about their journey, and 289 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 4: I think that gave me encouragement that like everybody's road 290 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 4: is different and so you can't let it like get 291 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 4: you down. But I did instill to this day even 292 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 4: more now, I think I'm learning. I'm I'm learning to 293 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 4: feel it, just be in it and feel it. And 294 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 4: when when something lets me down or I don't win 295 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 4: the whatever, or I don't you know, have a great show, 296 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 4: or my album doesn't do what I wanted or whatever 297 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 4: the circumstance is, I'm like, Okay, well I'm gonna sit 298 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 4: in this right now. Absorb it, figure out why it's 299 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 4: happening and how it's making me feel, and process it 300 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 4: and learn from it and do something different or change 301 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 4: the trajectory of the next thing. So, you know, I 302 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 4: think it's so important to like live in the life 303 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 4: just as much as you live in the has we have. 304 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: To Ooh, that's so good. 305 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 3: I love that, and it's so harder. I'm just kidding it. 306 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: Seriously, you were like fifteen thinking about your career having longevity, 307 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: which is just so rare. I just imagine you, like fifteen, 308 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: looking at the Grand Ole Opry or the Grammys or 309 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: the Country Music Awards, being like, I'm going to be 310 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: the Dolly, I'm going to be the Reba. Like you 311 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: weren't thinking of your career in one album or a 312 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: few hits. Is there a moment when you started feeling 313 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: more comfortable and confident in the success, like, Okay, it 314 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: wasn't going to go away. 315 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 4: There is, But I don't take it for granted like 316 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 4: I I did. 317 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 3: That's all I set out to do. I wanted a 318 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 3: long career. 319 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 4: When I met my manager when I was nineteen, we're 320 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 4: still together, Marion, and I said, she said, what do 321 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 4: you want and I said, I want a long career. 322 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 4: I wan want to make music that matters, music that 323 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 4: most people want to lift up women saved, and be 324 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 4: able to play music for as long as I physically can. 325 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 4: I don't want to have to play. I want to 326 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 4: want to and so I feel like I'm on that path, 327 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 4: you know, and it I think setting myself up early going. 328 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 4: These are the goals. 329 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: You know. 330 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 4: We didn't have like vision boards back then. It was 331 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 4: just like it just was in my head and I 332 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 4: did work my ass off. But I have an amazing 333 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 4: team around me that will not They're not yes people. 334 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 3: That's huge, it's huge. It's it's my first. 335 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 4: It's my like after I tell an artist, like a 336 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 4: young artists and then they're like, what's your advice, I'm like, 337 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 4: know who you are and stick with it. And secondly, 338 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 4: do not surround yourself with people that are going to 339 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 4: tell you everything you do is great, you're beautiful. You 340 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 4: can go out there and be a shit show. That's 341 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 4: not how this works. You need somebody to tell you 342 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 4: the truth, especially the hard ones, the hard truths that 343 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 4: are like you know, like the kind where my manager, 344 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 4: for instance, takes me to this park. She drives a 345 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 4: tiny car. She drives a Porsche, and she'll lock the 346 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 4: doors and turn to me, and I'm like, oh no, 347 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 4: here it goes. But it's usually something I really need 348 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 4: to hear. And so I just feel like it's so 349 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 4: important to surround yourself with people that will tell you 350 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 4: the truth and that aren't wrapped up in all this. 351 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 4: You know, it's like, who are you off camera? Who 352 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 4: are you off stage? Who are you out of the studio? 353 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 4: Like that really love you for you? 354 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: Did she ever tell you one you didn't want to hear? Oh? 355 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, all the time, every day, really yeah, And I 356 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 4: appreciate it. Some is my mom and some is my 357 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 4: husband for that matter. I mean he's a New Yorker. 358 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 4: They don't He does not mince word. He minces garlic, 359 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 4: but not his words. So like, I'm surrounded by people 360 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 4: who speak their truth and tell me when I need 361 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 4: to hear something that might not be like my favorite 362 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 4: news ever, And I'm one of those people that's a 363 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,719 Speaker 4: slow processor, so I might like buck the system at first, 364 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 4: and then I live with it for a while. 365 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 3: I'm like, y'all were right, y'are really right? 366 00:17:55,440 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 2: Well, Miranda, you recently turned forty and said that this 367 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 2: decade has been making you reconsider what your priorities are 368 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 2: going forward. What kind of era are we manifesting for 369 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 2: the forties. 370 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 3: Man, I'm so excited about it. 371 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 4: Besides like the stuff that's not fun, like girls stuff, 372 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 4: you know, just getting I'm excited to everybody that I 373 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,479 Speaker 4: know that is a female that's in our forties's like, oh, 374 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 4: it's the best decade ever. Like, I'm really excited about 375 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 4: cutting out the noise, like I already kind of do, 376 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 4: but something about turn of forty makes it that much more. 377 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:36,479 Speaker 4: Like I don't care what people that don't know me think, 378 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,719 Speaker 4: Like I've got to care about what the people that 379 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 4: they have sewn into my life, fans and people in 380 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 4: my life, my friends that have sewn in for years 381 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 4: that they matter to me. 382 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 3: I care about that. 383 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 4: I don't care about some stranger that doesn't know the 384 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 4: story making up a lie and you know it just 385 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 4: it It kills my creativity if I let that in. 386 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 4: So I'm excited about giving less of a shit about 387 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 4: that even more than I do now. 388 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 3: And I'm about staying inspired. 389 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 4: You know, I'm getting to work with a lot of 390 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 4: young artists and writers and I want to learn. Things 391 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 4: are so different than when I started this business, and 392 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 4: so I'm excited to learn how everything operates and what's 393 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 4: inspiring these younger people and keep my fire. And you know, 394 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 4: I've I've learned four chords when I was seventeen on 395 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,959 Speaker 4: the guitar. My dad taught me four. You only need 396 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 4: three in country music, but he taught me an extra 397 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 4: just in case. 398 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: In case you ever want to go to pop music, 399 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: you need four. 400 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, like here's a four. It's just a case. 401 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 4: And I just can't believe sometimes that those four chords 402 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 4: have led me to where I am and that I 403 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 4: get to talk on podcasts and you know, speak my 404 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 4: truth not only through my music now, but through my brand. 405 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 4: I'll win, through my charity, my nation, Big Loud Texas. 406 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 4: I'm a founder of a new label for music out 407 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 4: of my owne Star State, and I just feel really 408 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 4: fortunate to have music be the platform because that's where 409 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 4: it starts. 410 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 3: It ends for me is the songs. 411 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 4: And if I wouldn't have recorded the songs that I've recorded, 412 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 4: I don't think that I would be able to speak 413 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 4: to any of this like I can now because I 414 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 4: signed up to tell the truth back then, and I'm 415 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 4: still signed up to tell the truth. 416 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: That is so great. I love that word truth. 417 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 3: Well, it's important, you know. 418 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere. We have to take another quick break, 419 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: but we'll be right back with Miranda Lambert. And we're 420 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: back with Miranda Lampert. I told you earlier you write 421 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: one hell of a breakup song, but you also write 422 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: one hell of a love song. And you've been candid 423 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: about your love throughout your life. What is the wildest 424 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: thing you've ever done in the name of love? 425 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 4: Probably marry my husband, just I mean, we only dated 426 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 4: three months and we just kind of were like, let's 427 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 4: do it. 428 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 3: And I, you know, my close friends were like. 429 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 4: All right, we love you, we know you're crazy, but we. 430 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 2: We need more details about this, Miranda. Do you gotta 431 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 2: tell us everything. 432 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 3: He's the best. 433 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 4: We were almost six years in now to our marriage, 434 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 4: but we met. He's a cop NYPD and he was 435 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 4: working at GMA and I was doing Good Morning America 436 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 4: with my girl band, Pistol Annie's and we were singing 437 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 4: a song called I Got my Name Changed Back, which 438 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 4: is very ironic because it took me a lot of 439 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 4: effort to change my name back from my first marriage 440 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 4: on my license and passport. 441 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 3: It's a whole thing. 442 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 4: So we wrote a funny song about it, and we 443 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 4: were doing that on the show, and he was working 444 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 4: Good Morning America out on the street. That was part 445 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 4: of his sort of morning routine is to check on 446 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 4: everybody there. And we invited him to our show that night, 447 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 4: No plus one, just one ticket strategically, and we hung 448 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 4: out afterwards. And you know, my whole family, I'm from 449 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 4: a first responder family of four cops and eight firemen 450 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 4: in my family, and his whole family cops and firemen, 451 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 4: and so we kind of just had a lot of 452 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 4: common ground. Even though I'm a East Texan and he's 453 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 4: from Staten Island, New York. 454 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 3: We just really hit it off. 455 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 4: And you know, he's kind of a risk taker too, 456 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 4: so we got married really quick. And I just feel like, 457 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 4: you know, after you've been through pain, I've went through divorce, 458 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 4: I've been through the music business, and I've done a 459 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 4: lot and seen a lot, and I was like, you know, 460 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 4: the reward of a big love, Yes, the other option 461 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 4: is big pain, but I've done that, you know, so 462 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 4: I'm going to take the risk for the big love 463 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 4: and it's worked out so far. 464 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: Have you had a country girl of our city boy 465 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: moment yet? 466 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 4: Oh gosh, every single day like there was a language barrier. 467 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 3: He was like, I have no idea what you're talking about. 468 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 3: I don't understand any of those words. 469 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: That's hilarious. 470 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 4: He has an accent. His family is a very thick 471 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 4: New York accent. But I've really loved like getting to 472 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 4: immerse myself. I'm an honorary New Yorker now, and I 473 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 4: love that. But I've that's where I'm calling y'all from 474 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 4: New York. But I feel like, you know, it's really 475 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 4: fun to sort of mix the world. Our first Thanksgiving, 476 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 4: we had my family and his family and there was 477 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 4: and he's Dominican and Irish and we're Texan. So we 478 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,959 Speaker 4: had like we had like barbecue chicken and mashed potatoes 479 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 4: and gravy, and we had penny vodka and chicken, palm 480 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 4: and rice and beans. It was like a mixing of 481 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 4: the world. But it's really fun. We get together a lot. 482 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 4: It's a whole family, and it's really fun to like 483 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 4: just see how different, but how how much the same 484 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 4: we are. You know, we just we speak with a 485 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 4: different draw that's really cool. 486 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 2: You realize this is like every girl's dream when she 487 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 2: moves to New York is find a hot NYPD cop 488 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 2: and fall in love. 489 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 3: With Well, I'll tell you what, I wasn't looking. I 490 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 3: think that's the ticket. 491 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: I'll stop, I'll stop looking. 492 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like, I'm doing me right now, and 493 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 4: then here he comes out of nowhere. 494 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 3: So I don't know. 495 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 4: I mean, it's you know, it does sound like some 496 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 4: kind of crazy little rom com, but it hasn't been 497 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 4: Sunshine and Roses. 498 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 3: Nothing is, you know, but it's. 499 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 4: It's really I just I love big, I love my 500 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 4: animals big, I love people big, I love music big, 501 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 4: and I just think it's worth it to take a risk. 502 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 2: Speaking of risks, your husband, Brendan is not a musician. 503 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 2: He's former NYPD, but he actually co wrote one of 504 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 2: the songs on this album he did. What was it 505 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 2: like to create together? Was this an easy yes for him? 506 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 2: Did you have to pressure him at all? Into day? 507 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 4: During twenty twenty, we were living at my farm outside 508 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 4: of Nashville's an hour outside of town, you know, like 509 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 4: a one room cabin, so like we were doing everything, 510 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 4: like everybody was like painting and baking, and I was like, 511 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 4: let's write songs, and so we wrote a few during 512 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 4: COVID and he was really pretty good, like he had 513 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 4: some good lines and I was like, okay, and then 514 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 4: he was joking around with our friend Jesse Frasier, who's 515 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 4: a huge hit songwriter. Songwriting was easy, and so Jesse 516 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 4: made him come in and actually do like o session 517 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 4: with like He's like he sat there for four hours 518 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 4: and his golf clothes and he was like, this is 519 00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 4: really hard. I was like, yes, it is, sir, thank you. 520 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 4: We overnight success took ten years, remember that. So that 521 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 4: was his first like official rite and we got a 522 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 4: great song. And then John Raindel, my co producer and 523 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 4: co writer and collaborator, were doing prep for this record 524 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 4: and we were talking about just having a new family, 525 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 4: having a new label, and getting out of something that 526 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 4: didn't serve me. 527 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 3: And we started writing. 528 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 4: We had tequila and a guitar for sure going to 529 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 4: write a song, and Brendan was sitting there watching the 530 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 4: football game. He kept piping little words in and I 531 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 4: was like, if you're gonna we're gonna do this, You're 532 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 4: turn the game off, like we're gonna get in it, 533 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 4: and he did. 534 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 3: He had some of my favorite lines in the song. 535 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 4: And nobody understands what you're going through more than a 536 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 4: partner you live with that you're coming home to tell 537 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 4: your story to every day. And this kind of was 538 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 4: a story I needed to write. So he was a 539 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 4: perfect co writer for that. 540 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 2: What do you think makes a great songwriter? Because it's 541 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: really interesting to me that he didn't have any experience, 542 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: but he could just jump in to me. That speaks 543 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 2: to someone's life experience as opposed to you know, resumes. 544 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 4: I think, you know, being an NYPD officer for eight 545 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 4: years and growing up in New York, you already see 546 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 4: a lot more than someone that lived anywhere else, you 547 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 4: know what I mean. So I think that plays into 548 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 4: it a lot. But let me know if you figured 549 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 4: it out. I'm still trying to be a. 550 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 3: Great song rather. 551 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: Oh please, that's the biggest, the perfect Oh my god, 552 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: there are so many from you. I want to talk 553 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: about you starting your own record label though, because I 554 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: just want to give people context for what a record 555 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: label entails like to launch and promote an artist. On average, 556 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: for a label like Universal Music Group costs anywhere from 557 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: five hundred thousand to two million dollars. You have recording costs, 558 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: you have music videos, you have marketing and promotion, you 559 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: have tour support. I'm not telling you anything you don't know. Uh, 560 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: you are discovering and signing new artists and taking this on. 561 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 1: Why is this so important to you? Because this is 562 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: a huge undertaking. 563 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 4: It is and I loved here in that list because 564 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 4: it's a reminder there is so much that goes into it, 565 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 4: and you have to deal with artists and we're a 566 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 4: lot no I think you know, it's important to me 567 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 4: because the music that built me and who I am 568 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 4: is from my estate and a lot of it because 569 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 4: there's so many kinds of music come out of Texas too. 570 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 4: And you know, I've been able to have this amazing 571 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 4: career that I really work so hard to get here. 572 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 4: I want to use any experience that I can and 573 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 4: knowledge that I've gained to help god somebody else's dream, 574 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 4: you know, because it's not easy. 575 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 3: And I had some. 576 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 4: Really great people in my life, but I didn't have 577 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 4: like a female artist really that I could just call 578 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 4: up at three in the morning when everything was piled 579 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 4: on me, you know. 580 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 3: So I want to be that. 581 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 4: Person, especially for the girls because we really got to 582 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 4: stick together. You know, I want to win. I want 583 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 4: you to win too, and we can all do that. 584 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 4: But we're not going to do it by clonia each 585 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 4: other's eyes out and step it on each other. We're 586 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 4: going to do it by being authentic and lifting each 587 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 4: other up. And that's that's the goal. And I want 588 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 4: to be that for anyone in music that I can 589 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 4: use some of my experience because I get to spend 590 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 4: like five minutes with ree. 591 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 3: Butt stagecoach, and I'm like, I have so many questions, 592 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, And she's so great, She's. 593 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 4: Done it so right in her way and she's still 594 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 4: on top killing it. So like, if I can be 595 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 4: that for somebody, I definitely want to. 596 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, in honor of your new record Postcards from Texas, 597 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 2: if you could send a postcard to your younger self 598 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 2: to fifteen year old Miranda, what would you say, Oh man. 599 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 3: I would just say, stop, take a bread. 600 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 4: You're going to be hurt, because that was the biggest 601 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 4: thing at the beginning of like I have something to say. 602 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 4: I write these songs and I know who I am, 603 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 4: and I feel like I can help women in the 604 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 4: world or you know, I have something to offer, and 605 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 4: I just you know, I think when we're so young, 606 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 4: we're just so like guns of blazing that we don't 607 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,959 Speaker 4: take a breath and enjoy the process as much. And 608 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 4: so I would tell her to, like, look around, take 609 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 4: a breath, and enjoy the rid more than lack so 610 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 4: tunnel vision. 611 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: Miranda. When I thought about interviewing you today, I thought 612 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: about two words. It was reinvention and courage. I think 613 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: there's so much of both of those words in your story, 614 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: at least public facing what I see, and I think 615 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: from time and time again, no matter what's going on 616 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: in your life, you rise from the ashes with optimism. 617 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: And I can't tell you how many times I listened 618 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: to your song Blackbird when I was going through a 619 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: hard time. For anyone who hasn't heard it, the lyrics are, Yeah, 620 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: I'm a turner. I turn pages all the time. Don't 621 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: like where I'm at. Thirty four was bad, So I 622 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: just turned thirty five, and I love the idea of 623 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: just turning the page, get all the emotion out, just 624 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: turn the page. After all that, what do you know 625 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: about walking on the bright side? 626 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 3: That's really sweet. Thank you for saying that. 627 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 4: I love those two words, and I do identify with 628 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 4: them in my life, not just Miranda Lambert, but in 629 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 4: my personal life. And I think the transition periods are 630 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 4: those are the times where you really think, am I 631 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 4: doing it right? Am I reinventing? Should I have It's 632 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 4: it all been? Be okay on the other side of this, 633 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 4: And whether that's career wise or personal whatever, there's a 634 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 4: transition period for every amount, like every time you're growing, 635 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 4: and it feels uncomfortable and scary sometimes, but what's the 636 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 4: other option? 637 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 2: You know? 638 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 3: For me, there's not. 639 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 4: Another option than to try to do bigger and better 640 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 4: things like reinvent create more things, and bring more awareness 641 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 4: to creativity and to you know, with my charity and 642 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 4: my nation, Like I'm always trying to think, like, what 643 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 4: else can we do to you know, bring attention to 644 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 4: this subject I'm so passionate about. I think it's learning 645 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 4: the lessons in the quiet moments too, Like you know, 646 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 4: it's sometimes you have to sit with yourself and wait 647 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 4: it out for whatever the next wave is to come, 648 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 4: and that's where you learn the lessons. 649 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 3: That's where you hear yourself. 650 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 4: And my friend Natalie Hemby, who's my co writer a 651 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 4: lot for almost two decades. She was saying that in 652 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 4: a songwriting masterclass about how you have to just sit 653 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 4: with your thoughts because that's where your real truth comes out. 654 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,239 Speaker 4: And as a songwriter, that's an obligation we have. And 655 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 4: so you know, I I've gotten way better at that. 656 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 4: I was not good at it when I was young 657 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 4: at all, and I think that comes with time and experience. 658 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 4: But you know, that's another postcard I would send to 659 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 4: my young self, like just sit in it, feel it, 660 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 4: all of it. And that's part of the gross and 661 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 4: so it's super important to go through those transition periods. 662 00:31:59,440 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 3: You know. 663 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: Miranda, thank you so much for coming on the bride. 664 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. All were great. 665 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed this. Thank you, Miranda. 666 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 3: Thank you guys. 667 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: Miranda Lampert is a three time Grammy Award winning country singer, guitarist, 668 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: and songwriter. Her new album, Postcards from Texas, is out tomorrow. 669 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 2: That's it for today's show. Tomorrow, we're popping off with comedian, 670 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 2: actor and writer Sashir Zamida. 671 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: Listen and follow the bright Side on the iHeartRadio app, 672 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm simone Boye. 673 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 2: You can find me at Simone Voice on Instagram and TikTok. 674 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: I'm Danielle Robe on Instagram and TikTok. That's ro b A. 675 00:32:46,520 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 2: Y see you tomorrow, Folks, keep looking on the bright side.