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Speaker 1: It is our two of Stugatza Company presented by fan

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Speaker 1: Duel and the FanDuel sports book. Diana Resinia to joined

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Speaker 1: us at fifteen minutes thanks to Frank Calliande for joining

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Speaker 1: us earlier.

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Speaker 2: Stink and god bless football. I can't wait for that.

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Speaker 1: So much for momentum, uh huh? The World Series not

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Speaker 1: it up at two games a piece. The Dodgers entered

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Speaker 1: last night's game with about as much momentum as you

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Speaker 1: could possibly have in a sport. They have show Hey

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Speaker 1: Otani and do yourself a favor. How about you help

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Speaker 1: yourself out? I mean, show Hey Otani on the man.

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Speaker 1: Last night, the Dodgers have all the momentum, and the

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Speaker 1: Blue Jays come back and tie the series at two

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Speaker 1: games apiece.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, I love this World Series. Ozani.

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Speaker 1: Everything he did in Game three was erased in game four.

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Speaker 2: How well that that's so?

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Speaker 3: It feels like in game three the Dodgers have this

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Speaker 3: historic performance, It goes eighteen innings, a demoralizing loss, and

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Speaker 3: it felt like the narrative after Game three was Okay,

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Speaker 3: this series is over. The Blue Jays are gonna lay down.

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Speaker 3: Blue Jays didn't get the message. This Blue Jays team.

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Speaker 3: They are a resilient bunch.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he just did a leak orse so not so fast,

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Speaker 2: my friends, that's what he did. He just did. He

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Speaker 2: did the finger, he did everything. Yes.

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Speaker 4: Were the Dodgers counting on momentum to win Game four? Yes?

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Speaker 5: Were they just counting on like? It doesn't matter? Momentum

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Speaker 5: won us Game four? It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, we got Otani on the hill. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we're good, right.

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Speaker 4: We got low don't even have to.

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Speaker 1: Here are some things I was tired over the last

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Speaker 1: twenty four hours. We'll give baseball fifteen minutes. We gave

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Speaker 1: it an entire show yesterday Today it gets fifteen minutes

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Speaker 1: because the game didn't go eighteen innings and Otani didn't

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Speaker 1: do anything but yesterday. Here are some of the things

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Speaker 1: I was frustrated overhearing the last twenty four hours. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Otani is the best baseball player in the world. He's

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Speaker 1: the best baseball player I've ever seen. He's not Okay,

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Speaker 1: Bonds is the best baseball player you've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: Willie Mays might be the best baseball player you've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: I love telling people who the best baseball player they've

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Speaker 1: ever seen was and it's not. It is not show Heyotani.

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Speaker 1: He's also not the greatest athlete we've ever seen. That

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Speaker 1: would be Michael Jordan and countless others before I get

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Speaker 1: to show Hey Otani, Ah, did we go overboard based

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Speaker 2: It was a great game. It was a great game.

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Speaker 1: I will give him that, But he is not the

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Speaker 1: greatest baseball player, nor is he the greatest athlete that

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Speaker 1: we've ever seen. That is a ludicrous You guys don't

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Speaker 1: feel like he's the best baseball player you've ever seen?

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Speaker 2: Do you?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 5: I'll say that he has the potential to be.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you do this for a long stretch you have,

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Speaker 5: Games like set what is it, six shutout innings and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll start, I'll start thinking about it. But until

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Speaker 4: you do it more than once, pump the brakes, right.

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Speaker 1: But he's thirty something? Is he thirty years old? Thirty

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Speaker 1: one years old? He's thirty one years old. I don't

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Speaker 1: baseball player that we've ever seen. The greatest baseball player

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Speaker 1: that any of us have ever seen was Barry Bonds

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Speaker 1: before he took the steroids, and then again after he

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Speaker 2: I'm not certain which one was better.

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Speaker 1: I guess post steroid Barry Bonds is the greatest baseball

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Speaker 3: So so the built an advantage of that show. Hey,

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Speaker 3: as obviously is the fact that he pitches and hits.

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Speaker 3: He's an unbelievable hitter. He's a above two great pitcher.

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Speaker 3: But there's a reason why we're not teaching kids to

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Speaker 3: It's not the most efficient. It's not the most efficient

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Speaker 3: And then you have nights like last night where you're

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Speaker 2: It's like a novelty act.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's exactly, it's a novelty act. You know.

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Speaker 5: If you got think back to those early two thousand Yankees,

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Speaker 4: Know what they all would have said.

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Speaker 5: They all would have said, Mariano Rivera that, but it

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Speaker 5: but he did it so good.

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Speaker 4: You didn't try to get him to hit. But if

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Speaker 2: Have been right.

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Speaker 1: But this is unfair to Atani because yesterday's player that

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Speaker 2: I mean serious, sleep.

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Speaker 4: Do it after eighteen innings?

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Speaker 3: That's a good point. You have to wonder how all

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Speaker 3: how it affected Otani's sleep schedule because he comes out,

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Speaker 3: he's starting a little slow, he's over three at the plate,

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Speaker 3: he's running out of gas in the seventh inning giving

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Speaker 3: I'm going to text Tim Kirchin, right, greatest baseball player

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Speaker 3: I think I think Mickey Mannol would like a word.

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Speaker 1: Are you going to text him right now and ask him?

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Speaker 1: Ask him to come on as well? When you do

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Speaker 1: tomorrow or Friday, because we're loaded today. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Steven A. Smith could enjoin us tomorrow. That is a

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Speaker 2: Smith. Are you so? What?

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Speaker 1: What exactly are you texting Kirchin right now? Because it's

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Speaker 1: eight thirty five on the West coast so that's fine.

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Speaker 1: The game didn't go too late last night. What are

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Speaker 1: you texting him? Just so me and mikey A are

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna give him three choices. Greatest baseball player you've

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Speaker 1: Mantle, okay, power rank those Okay, say on the front end,

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Speaker 1: sorry to bother you. No, it's a busy time. Okay,

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Speaker 1: get all that get all that stuff in there.

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Speaker 1: I'm asking on behalf of stecottson Company, all right. Otherwise

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be like Stecott's Why did you give this

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Speaker 1: kid my number? He never asked me to come on.

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Speaker 5: Oh God, I wonder how many how many people could

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Speaker 5: have been what Otani is had they been given the opportunity.

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Speaker 5: I feel like a lot of old school baseball guys,

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Speaker 5: is you can't pitching hit at the same time. No,

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Speaker 5: we're not doing that. You got to pick a lane

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Speaker 1: If given the opportunity right right, the novelty act, Because

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Speaker 1: here's the deal. When these guys were in high school,

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Speaker 1: they were all their team's best pitcher. They were also

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Speaker 1: these guys are incredible athletes, and you're right, how many

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Speaker 1: very inconvenient. I did not realize and I didn't realize

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Speaker 1: Otani has to go through when he goes from the

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Speaker 1: change his cleats, he's got to change his whole uniform.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's very inefficient.

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Speaker 4: I thought we were trying to feed the game up.

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Speaker 2: How about we make some cleats that could serface both.

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Speaker 2: That sounds twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: I mean also, all these rules, all these rules for

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Speaker 3: Now we have these rules where you could take Otani

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Speaker 2: You're right, if if you take a guy out, you

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Speaker 1: Night's over, doesn't matter. Your job is done here. I've

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Speaker 1: of here. They should put that rule into major League Baseball.

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Speaker 2: I think the rule if you're out, you're out.

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Speaker 5: Zayle like at least then he'll be the best at

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Speaker 3: Manford would never do that. Manford's finding every way possible

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Speaker 3: to get Otani more at bets. That's why the magic

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Speaker 1: He would like the Dodgers line up to be Otani

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Speaker 1: Otai Otadi Otadi Otani Otani o tai otadi Otadi.

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Speaker 2: I think, yes, Freddy, Freddy.

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Speaker 3: Your eight nine hitters are still Mookie Bets Freddie Freeman.

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Speaker 3: And then the lineup turns back over for Otani again.

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Speaker 2: Put it on the pole tail.

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Speaker 1: That would Rob Manford, major League Baseball Commissioner, like if

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers line up would prefer the Dodgers lineup to

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Speaker 1: be all Otani's.

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Speaker 3: I have a sneaky unsung hero for this Blue Jays

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Speaker 3: Lewis Varland. He's their relief pitcher. So I'm looking I'm

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Speaker 3: Jays have played fifteen games this postseason. Lewis Varlin has

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Speaker 3: Varlin's the cow. Schneider is the farmer. Where he's going

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Speaker 3: to milk you for everything you got. I don't know

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Speaker 3: how his arm is still still on his body pitching

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Speaker 3: in thirteen or fifteen games so far. So you're saying, yes,

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Speaker 3: so Schneider's milking Varlin.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you for asking. I had follow ups

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Speaker 1: on that. So Schneider is milking Varlin? Is that what's happening?

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Speaker 3: Yes, milking them for milking him for always worth right now, and.

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Speaker 1: You're saying when Varlin enters the game, pitches in a

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Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying?

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Speaker 3: He is one of their their highest leverage arms in

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Speaker 1: Varley?

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Speaker 5: Do you think there are other relievers in their bullpen

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Speaker 4: Could you milk me? Schneider.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he care to name him.

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Speaker 3: Thet They got my favorite name in their bullpen. They

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Speaker 2: That's a great name. Do you guys believe?

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Speaker 1: Like this is one of the early arguments that I

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Speaker 2: It's hard in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: You have six days off until you play your next game,

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Speaker 3: Yeah? For sure, especially the day of the game where

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Speaker 3: And the way this Blue Jays team is, they are

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Mikey, Yeah, I believe in momentum. I also believe

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Speaker 2: You, right, Uh, it's listen.

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Speaker 1: I want to say the Blue Jays have all the

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Speaker 3: And still it's still in LA too, which helps that.

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Speaker 2: Right right, it's home in LA.

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Speaker 1: They have Snell and Yamamoto the next two the next

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Speaker 3: On FanDuel sportsbook, the Dodgers. Despite the momentum from the

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Speaker 3: hundred uh to win Game five tonight. And you figure whoever, obviously,

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Speaker 1: I think the winner of Game five wins like sixty

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's higher. I have no idea.

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Speaker 3: You said, you said it with some confidence. So even

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Speaker 1: It wasn't a ton of hard I have to be

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Speaker 1: honest with you. I'm not I'm not certain if that's

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Speaker 4: Yet you have you had all the momentum with that stat.

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Speaker 2: I know. Can't we look it up and see if

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Speaker 1: I want to be wrong. I want to be terribly wrong.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, was it Guerrero hit the homer off

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Speaker 2: Yes, he loved that.

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Speaker 1: That was a big moment for him. He's like, shut

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Speaker 2: Not that guy. Get out of here. That was a

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Speaker 1: Getting that home run early, to show that there were

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Speaker 2: To go up three two.

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Speaker 3: So what was your guest for percentage?

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Speaker 1: I think I said like sixty five percent of the time.

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Speaker 1: The winner of Game five wins the series.

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable. The winner of a World Series Game five has

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Speaker 2: How are you good. Good.

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Speaker 6: I feel like we're uh, we're at that point in

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Speaker 6: The sparkles aren't. You know, it's not a shiny It's like, Okay,

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Speaker 6: who's good? Who's not?

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Speaker 6: I'm over the the stories of optimism now now I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes is a really good at football.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: You're locked in right now?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Drake May is awesome?

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Speaker 2: Yes, do you enjoy the owner's meetings?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: Do you enjoy that?

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Speaker 6: I was meant for the owner's meeting? And I did

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Speaker 6: I'd be lying if I told you, like five years ago,

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Speaker 6: what am I good to say to David Tepper?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 6: Well, what is an opening line to David Tepper? Hi,

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Speaker 6: you could burn my house down, like you could buy

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Speaker 2: Like right, right, but that was your one.

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Speaker 1: Then you learned to schmooze a little bit and you

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Speaker 6: Well, then you realize that they are just people and

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Speaker 6: But then also what could I possibly say in this

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Speaker 5: So are there owners that are hoping you stop them?

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Speaker 5: And you're like, I have nothing to say to you,

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Speaker 6: You know a good question. Yes, I definitely had two

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Speaker 4: Right, it is dating, I mean, it's it is.

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Speaker 5: It's being at a friend's wedding and you start talking

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Speaker 4: And you're like, if I start this conversation, I'm never

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Speaker 1: There is rapid port hanging out.

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Speaker 6: business people. Jury Epstein from Yahoo is really good. She's

441
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 6: my favorite person to compete against because she is so

442
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:33,680
Speaker 6: lovely and polite and proper, and we can appreciate each

443
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 6: other's differences because I am not okay, and you know,

444
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 6: I elbow in and Jury, you know, so like we

445
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,119
Speaker 6: we we kind of have this competitive respect for one another.

446
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,360
Speaker 6: And she gets great stuff too. But yeah, my eyes

447
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 6: always on Jury. And she's short too, so she's hard

448
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 6: to find.

449
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 1: I love how you have made this a competition, Like

450
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 1: I would watch it on TV, you guys going after

451
00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:58,160
Speaker 1: NFL owners.

452
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 6: I would people share. I just like, look over I

453
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 6: give Jerry looks like I'm like no, no, no, no no.

454
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 6: Because that's another thing too. There's like a there's a

455
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 6: respect thing to among reporters where if you see me

456
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 6: talking to Jerry Jones. Don't you dare think about walking

457
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 6: up next to That's right, don't say in the faith

458
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 6: And sometimes reporters that aren't his experience or just don't

459
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 6: know the sort of code they do it. But I've

460
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 6: gotten really good at the I have a look I

461
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 6: give that's basically like, you're not entering this conversation and

462
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 6: it works.

463
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 1: Okay, can we see the look? So you're talking to

464
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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones. Okay, you have fifteen minutes with them. You

465
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,159
Speaker 1: got Jerry Jones. There's a pecking ruder there and in

466
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 1: strolls Ian Rappaport, and he is trying to get between

467
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 1: you and Jerry Jones.

468
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 6: He's the perfect example because we were going to kill

469
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 6: each other. Well, first of all, this year, Jerry wants

470
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 6: Terry slick. Jerry always talks, right, So getting us getting

471
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,399
Speaker 6: an exclusive with Jerry's hard because he's going to talk everyone.

472
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 6: But I'm sitting in the in the middle of the

473
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 6: lobby and the meetings are going to wrap up in

474
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 6: about thirty minutes. But I see this older gentleman, nice

475
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 6: sue and sunglasses in the corner. I'm like, I think

476
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 6: that's Jerry so I run over, but I don't want

477
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 6: to make noise because I don't want Jury and Ian

478
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 6: and everyone else to see me. So I go over

479
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 6: and I just and Jerry looks at me and goes

480
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 6: keep walking. And I thought he meant like walk away,

481
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 6: but he meant like keep walking with me. So I

482
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 6: kept walking. He's like, you want to talk?

483
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 2: I go yeah.

484
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 6: He goes step outside with me. So we did our

485
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 6: entire interview and I talked to him for thirty five minutes,

486
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 6: basically one foot in his black car and one foot

487
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 6: on the sidewalk of fifty fourth, you know, and les right,

488
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 6: and by the way, it's so funny to watch like

489
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 6: people walking by seeing Jerry Jones just having this conversation

490
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 6: adamated and but the look I give if someone were

491
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 6: to come up, it's like, so, let's say, Jerry's to

492
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 6: my right, Like I'll tell me more about how you

493
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 6: were so happy you treated we Mica. That was so smart,

494
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 6: that needs so much sense mm hmmm, and like you're

495
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 6: let's just say you're Albert Breer. It's like it's it's.

496
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 2: It's quick, stare down.

497
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 6: It's just enough where like and you know me a

498
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 6: long time, like I wear my emotions on my face anyway,

499
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 6: So it's like it doesn't take a lot to see.

500
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 6: I'm like, hey, go kick rock somewhere else.

501
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, that look is turned the other way, right,

502
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 2: go the other direction.

503
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 6: If the other reporters do this, by the way, now

504
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 6: that I don't think they're as insane about it.

505
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 4: I can't picture Chefter having that look.

506
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 6: I've never even seen Adam at that doesn't need to

507
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 6: chase owners, right.

508
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 2: He just gets up on the phone, right, is there?

509
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 2: Go ahead?

510
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 6: I can too, I can do.

511
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 2: I know you can.

512
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 6: I know I appreciate an in person conversation with people

513
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 6: that I'm talking about all the time.

514
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: Yes, right, you love cup, bring that thing. I mean, Chef,

515
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 1: there's lazy, say it. Go ahead, call him lazy.

516
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 6: I think I'm just a better athlete.

517
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 2: I am.

518
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 6: I am built for this kind of thing. I'm built

519
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 6: up for conflict, confrontation. Even every owner doesn't like me.

520
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 6: I've said things about teams and they're not. Like Jeffrey

521
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 6: Laurie isn't thrilled with me right now?

522
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: Yes, but by the way, he's the second most famous

523
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 1: alumni from from Clark University behind me, and he's been

524
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: on the show with us, and so if you would

525
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: like me to reach out to Jeffrey, I could probably

526
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 1: get your.

527
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 2: One on one conversation.

528
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 6: Is if you like isn't he loved?

529
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 2: Like I just he's a very nice guy.

530
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think he's awesome.

531
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 2: Yes, you want me to arrange that? What do you think?

532
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: Let me try and try it out.

533
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 6: I think you should stay out of it. I think

534
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 6: I need to probably white my own battle on this one.

535
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 2: So small.

536
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 6: I think the stude text would say, like, Hey, my

537
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 6: friend Diana, I don't know if you know her, she's

538
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 6: an NFL reporter, really wants to give the Eagles better coverage.

539
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 6: Could you help her?

540
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 5: Love to you make the mistake of thinking you're going

541
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 5: to have anything to do with it. All he's going

542
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 5: to say, is I want to come on our show.

543
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 6: Mike, you are so right. This is where I step

544
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 6: into like booby traps here with with with stew It's like,

545
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 6: I'm thinking, as if he's actually caring.

546
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 2: About me in my career, I actually am. I'm offering

547
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 2: you the owner of the Philadelphia Eagles. I would listen.

548
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: What I would tell him is Diana Rassini's a good friend,

549
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: She's a hard worker. Her husband's an Eagles fan, and

550
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: she would like to get a one on one with you,

551
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: and I think he would do it.

552
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 6: We have a deeper conversation about the hard worker thing.

553
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 6: I feel like the girls on my soccer team that

554
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 6: used to say were hard workers, they kind of sucked.

555
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 6: I don't want to be a hard worker anymore. I

556
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 6: want to be like I want you know what I mean,

557
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 6: like the hard workers, like the thing he say about

558
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 6: someone because they're not talented, Yes.

559
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 2: They grind it out right. You want to be naturally, Yes,

560
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 2: you want to be a natural.

561
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 6: Right, Because people say to me all times, like, oh,

562
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 6: you're such a grinder. It's like I like my dad,

563
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 6: my day's a plumber, he's a grinder. I don't want

564
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 6: to be grinder. I'm a woman, a the like I've

565
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 6: been doing this a long time. I don't I can't

566
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 6: work at this pace anyways. So we need a new description.

567
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 6: So if we could work on that as a show,

568
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 6: I'd appreciate, Like, if we could find a way to

569
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 6: describe it that doesn't entail relentlessness, that'd be great.

570
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 5: It sounds like it sounds like draft talk, like oh,

571
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 5: high motor high motor.

572
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, yes, I don't want to be high motor.

573
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 4: I want to be talented athlete when she steps on

574
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 4: the field.

575
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 6: Oh, I want to be best all around.

576
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: You know, yes, but you are a natural, You're great

577
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: at this. But you do have a motor like you

578
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: just do. You can't turn it off, you know?

579
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: Sorry?

580
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 1: Yeah?

581
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

582
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 6: Do you think you think owners when I walk up

583
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 6: to them, like, I always want to know what they're thinking, Like,

584
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 6: holy shit, what did this girl drink this morning? You know,

585
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 6: because you know online Nicole, like you.

586
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 2: Know the motor there it is?

587
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,719
Speaker 1: Is there an owner that you're most intimidated to approach,

588
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: like an intimidating She used to.

589
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 6: Be David Tepper, but his wife is so lovely she

590
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 6: could be my sister. She looks like me.

591
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 2: She loves you, right, Tepper's wife loves you the best.

592
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 6: Like we act inappropriate actually when we see each other

593
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 6: because we're so excited to see the other. I'm like,

594
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 6: oh my god, call all like we were meant to

595
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 6: be friends. But I just want to get on the yacht.

596
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 6: Just get me on the yacht.

597
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 2: Sure.

598
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 6: I really love talking to Charlotte Jones. She's another one. Uh,

599
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 6: Carly ursa fabulous.

600
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: Yes, a lot of rare to say older the the

601
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: older the wife is the better chance you have of

602
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: getting to where you need to get to, right, because

603
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,239
Speaker 1: you could butter up an old lady right.

604
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 6: No, no, no, like Hannah McNair, fabulous lover. Like they

605
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 6: don't they don't care. Like that's the one thing with

606
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 6: the owners that have always noticed, like there's no gender there,

607
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 6: there's no issue, Like they're like, this chick is out

608
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 6: here reporting working, you know, Yeah, they're not worried about that.

609
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 6: I'm trying to think, who scares me?

610
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 3: You know?

611
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 6: The RAMS owner gets me a little stand cronky.

612
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like so you're walking up to your approaching krokey

613
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: and you feel like a little nervous.

614
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 6: But I get nervous, aren't Rooney a little as well?

615
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 6: But but I get I work through it when I'm

616
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 6: with it, just the initial I get. And I don't

617
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 6: know why I don't. I don't know what that is.

618
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 6: Like John Marra wonderful. He can be a little intimittian

619
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 6: just because of the way he stands, but he's fabulous too. Look,

620
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 6: Woody Johnson was he was an open book. He was

621
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 6: talking to everybody.

622
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 2: Well, he doesn't shut the fuck up that you can

623
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 2: close the book? Can you close the book?

624
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 6: I tried, so he talked to the media as soon

625
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 6: as he walked in. I don't think he had any

626
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 6: plans of talking, but we stopped him. Excuse me, the

627
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 6: beat reporters from the Jets stopped him.

628
00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: I saw it.

629
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 6: I ran over and I'm like listening, and he just

630
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 6: there's a tone people give when they want to talk,

631
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 6: like if you don't want to talk, you get quick

632
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 6: answers and you keep on moving. He was standing there

633
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 6: and he's saying all these things about justin you know,

634
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 6: we gotta be able to throw a pat You guys

635
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 6: saw the quotes. Now, So they go into the meetings

636
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 6: and I'm sitting there like, I don't know, I don't

637
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 6: know if wood he meant that. Like I've crushed Woody

638
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 6: for years, I know this, But my thought was, let

639
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 6: me go get him after the meetings and see if

640
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 6: he wants to maybe massage the messaging a little, because

641
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 6: look like it could be a lot with all these

642
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 6: people coming at you. No, not a lot of massaging.

643
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 6: So yeah, like it was the first time I had

644
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 6: seen him since I wrote that piece. Do you remember

645
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 6: the story did on the Jets.

646
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, all Madden rating and so you said it to me.

647
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: We sent it out of social Yeah.

648
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 6: As soon as he sees me, he's like, ugh, you're

649
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 6: the one that killed me.

650
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, you killed you, you killed you. I

651
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 4: just told everybody about it.

652
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 6: I couldn't say that. I couldn't say that. I just

653
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 6: was like yeah. But then you know, he was great.

654
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 6: Then we wound up talking about some of the stuff

655
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 6: and look, he was like, that was not reflective of

656
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 6: who I am at all. You know, Unfortunately we talk

657
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 6: to like nine hundred people.

658
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 2: But how often does that happen?

659
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: Like when you write something, report something, an agent calls

660
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: an owner or GM somebody calls you and just starts

661
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Speaker 1: fucking complaining about what it is that you wrote.

662
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Speaker 6: I would probably say ninety eight percent of the time.

663
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Speaker 6: What Like, It's funny. My boss said to me once,

664
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Speaker 6: He's like, how much you know you must enjoy Saturdays

665
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 6: so much because you publish in the morning and then

666
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 6: you can, you know, spend the afternoon with Mikey and Joey.

667
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 6: I'm like, I don't see my children on Saturdays because

668
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 6: I'm on the phone in my driveway talking to agents, owners, coaches, players, players, wives.

669
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Speaker 6: I've had call where it's a description. It's usually just

670
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 6: a word, like one word, and you're like, that's bothering you,

671
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 6: Like I am all for if I report something that

672
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 6: is inaccurate, call me now and let's let's correct it.

673
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 6: I will put out a I will I will correct

674
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 6: it in my piece. I will tweet the correction. I

675
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 6: am not afraid to own that miss Like you make mistakes,

676
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 6: it happens. I don't get those though. I never, not never,

677
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 6: but very rarely do I get you got that wrong.

678
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 6: I got you don't understand, or you didn't talk to

679
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 6: us about it. You know, Like there's always like ways

680
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 6: that they are. They're just mad, you know. And that's

681
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Speaker 6: what I have to try to remember, and and just

682
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 6: learning how to have those conversations with angry people. That's

683
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 6: like another skill set, right. It's like, because you know me,

684
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 6: I'm spicy, I run hot like and and if you're

685
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 6: gonna yell at me and call me names, I my

686
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 6: natural instinct is to go back at you. But I've

687
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,959
Speaker 6: learned to really try to chill and just let them

688
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 6: vent and then usually we can get to the heart

689
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 6: at what the problem is, and it's usually they're mad

690
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 6: and the info's out.

691
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Speaker 3: Diana, do you know when you have a quote that's

692
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Speaker 3: gonna get a lot of traction on social media? Like

693
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Speaker 3: in the moment, because when you were at the owner's meetings,

694
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Speaker 3: My favorite was when you tweeted what he Johnson says,

695
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 3: he literally hugs Aaron Glenn every week.

696
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: And tells him he believes him he's a great nugget.

697
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Speaker 6: Yeah, so he says it. I stop him. I interrupt

698
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 6: the little scrum. I go, you're just kidding, right, You

699
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 6: don't hug him every day? He no, I hug him

700
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 6: every day. So to answer your question, like I'd say,

701
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Speaker 6: most of the time, I know when something hits, whether

702
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 6: it's a story or a quote. But I am still

703
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 6: at my age surprised the things people like Like. I

704
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 6: still be like, really that's what people grabbed onto that

705
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 6: because I've had the opposite to where I'm like, oh,

706
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 6: I've got the goods, Like Twitter's gonna explode, No one cares.

707
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 6: No one cares.

708
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: They just want to know where A J. Brown's gonna

709
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,439
Speaker 2: fucking go. That's all they care about, right people.

710
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Speaker 6: Could I know Philly fans you talk about burning my

711
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 6: house down. Someone in Philly is gonna show up, and

712
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 6: if something happens to me, just call the Philadelphia police.

713
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Speaker 6: I'm just telling you right now. Put this is on

714
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 6: the record, okay, Because they're so they think I'm trying

715
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 6: to stir it up, right, because they're in denial, I

716
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 6: think a little of Like, I don't think they want

717
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 6: to see the fact that their best receiver isn't happy, right, Like,

718
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 6: it doesn't if you're emotionally detached from the situation in Philadelphia.

719
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 6: It's very clear when he no, no one hears an

720
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 6: Eagles fan right right, So we can all agree A J.

721
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Speaker 6: Brown is not happy in Philadelphia like where he's like

722
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Speaker 6: Eagles fans like you keep saying that that's why we're

723
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 6: having problems. You're trying to push him out. You're working

724
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 6: for the Patriots, You're working.

725
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 2: For the Bills like you're a spy.

726
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 3: Yes.

727
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Speaker 6: And the thing is, like, I have a great relationship

728
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 6: with AJ. I've known him for a long time, and

729
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 6: he's he's he's emotional like, he's not doing anything I've

730
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 6: never seen before. We've all seen receivers do this. I

731
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 6: just don't know how they fix it. That to me,

732
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 6: is why the Eagles are so exciting and entertaining.

733
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 2: To me at the top of the sport. So this dysfunctional,

734
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 2: it's crazy, right, I know to be this good?

735
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Speaker 4: Yeah, how do you fix winning?

736
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Speaker 2: They're winning?

737
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 4: Like, how do you fix winning?

738
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? But AJ wants his stats. He's already won. He

739
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 2: wants his stats.

740
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Speaker 1: I don't blame Hi him like he wants he wants

741
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: his He's got contracts to think about, right, I asked.

742
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 6: The owner, I'm like, how do you do like do

743
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 6: you guys like this? Like do you enjoy dysfunction? Do

744
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 6: you enjoy conflict? And he didn't. He wouldn't give me

745
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 6: the yeah, we like the drama, but he definitely gave

746
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 6: me the we like the intensity, like he knows it's

747
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 6: it's just they are a family and it's not very

748
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 6: different from mine that likes to just keep it, keep it,

749
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 6: keep it exciting. There's always something going on. Someone's always

750
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 6: got a problem with somebody. And that way, when you

751
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 6: do have your family dinners, which is theirs on Sunday,

752
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 6: it's it's it makes it more fun. I guess.

753
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Speaker 2: Does that crush your soul?

754
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Speaker 1: From from this standpoint, meaning you will do great reporting

755
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: and stuff that you think is interesting is going to

756
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: pop on social media, and yet you learn that that's

757
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: not what the fans want. What the fans want is

758
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: they want to know where aj Brown is going to land.

759
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: Is that like soul crushing to.

760
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Speaker 6: You or or you know what soul crushing is? The

761
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 6: most so crushing thing is when fans don't want to

762
00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 6: believe the truth. That's really hard, or they will take

763
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 6: shots to your credibility because in the moment they don't

764
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 6: realize it's true, and then when it pans out, very

765
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 6: few remember do you remember when I was talking about.

766
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Speaker 7: Minnesota all off season about what they should do at quarterback, right,

767
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 7: and Vikings fans were gonna crucify me. JJ's the savior,

768
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 7: He's the god. And look he still could be like

769
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 7: we haven't seen enough of them.

770
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 2: Right, he was for a quarterer.

771
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Speaker 6: He was awesome in that quarter.

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Speaker 2: That was a great four.

773
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Speaker 6: Also really bad on the other ones. Right, So we'll

774
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 6: see how that plays. But how hard must it be

775
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 6: for Kevin O'Connor right now to be sitting watching Sam

776
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Speaker 6: and Daniel Jones go out there and look like the

777
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 6: best versions of themselves. It's and look, it's credit to Kevin.

778
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 6: But if you're him, it's like it's got to be exhausting.

779
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 6: Like here, I am coaching these guys up and they're

780
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 6: not even mine, and now I've got a quarterback problem here.

781
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 2: Sure, I mean he could have kept if he wanted

782
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 2: to know, well.

783
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 6: He could have kept Sam. But I think there were

784
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 6: some dynamics there. There's a lot there that was going

785
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 6: on in the off season with personalities, with what ownership wanted,

786
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 6: with what O'Connell wanted, with what Cracy wanted. He had

787
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 6: a lot of voices there, and look, I understood a bit.

788
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 6: I didn't know enough about JJ to say, okay, roll

789
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 6: with him when they made that decision, But I do

790
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 6: remember thinking they must really believe in him if they

791
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 6: decided as an organization, we are not going to keep

792
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 6: these insurance policies. We're not going to keep good quarterbacks

793
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 6: that won us fourteen games. Right, JJ must be doing

794
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 6: something that I haven't seen. Maybe maybe he's was never

795
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 6: doing anything, you know, like maybe it was just like

796
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 6: we got to invest in the young guy, right.

797
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: Well, no, that's that's the model, right, Like quarterback on

798
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: a rookie contract. If he's good, we're gonna we're gonna

799
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Speaker 1: have a good chance of winning a super Bowl.

800
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 6: And they paid all their guys, they extended all their

801
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 6: they did from a business standpoint, what you should do correct?

802
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 6: What if you got it wrong?

803
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 2: Right? Uh?

804
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Speaker 1: You know Vrabel very well. You know the Patriots organization

805
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: very well. I think there's so ahead of schedule. I

806
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: don't think any of them expected to be in a

807
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: window where they're like, hey, we can win the Ces,

808
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: we can eclipse the Bills and perhaps make a Super

809
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: Bowl run this year. But that's where they've arrived, and

810
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: so I'm wondering how it's going to impact what they

811
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Speaker 1: do moving forward here, trade deadline, acquiring more pieces, because

812
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 1: there's no way they expected to be this good this quickly.

813
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, I love how my relationship with Rabels considered to

814
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 6: be like really good. It's like, no, that's actually the

815
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 6: person I've probably fought with the most in my career.

816
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Speaker 6: You want to talk about getting a phone call, but.

817
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 2: I think when you're fighting with someone you have a

818
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 2: good relationship with them, that's I I actually think.

819
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Speaker 6: So, I think you're right. There is some truth to that.

820
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 6: Like with the exception of a few, you know, the

821
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 6: ones that just tell you to go die and hang

822
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 6: up on you, Like, yeah, you're probably not have a relationship.

823
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 6: But if somebody calls you because they don't like the

824
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 6: way you said something or that you reported something that

825
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 6: they either shared with you that they didn't want out

826
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 6: or that you heard from someone else, Like Mike's a

827
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 6: big control person. I mean they're they're all like that.

828
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 6: But if they can't control it, they lose their minds.

829
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: Right.

830
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 6: But yeah, here's where he's also somebody that I hold

831
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 6: in high regard. He was the coach of the Titans,

832
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 6: obviously when they were doing well, when they went to

833
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 6: the AFC Championship that year, and when I was at ESPN,

834
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 6: nobody was covering the Titans, like nobody, so it was

835
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 6: always just me on the national from the national people.

836
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 6: And he remembers it, and that's cool, Like I appreciate,

837
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 6: and so does Derrick Henry A. J. Brown, like Ryan Tannehill.

838
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 6: Those guys all remember and loyal to you, and they

839
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 6: are so good to me because of it, Like they're

840
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 6: so respectful and professional. And now that Mike's got this

841
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 6: winning team, which is like I don't think they thought

842
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 6: this was going to be like this. Five Street wins already,

843
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 6: they've got a quarterback that you know is in MVP conversations.

844
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 6: I was like, I don't want to say I was

845
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 6: down on them. I was with them in the summer

846
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 6: and they were okay. I didn't think they were great.

847
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 6: I knew that they were still trying to figure out

848
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 6: their identity. I wasn't sure how good the younger players

849
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 6: were going to be yet. But he's got them drinking

850
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 6: the kool aid. There were there. I mean, they're the

851
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 6: dancing on the sideline. They're like, they're just doing things

852
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 6: that are fun. They're having fun in New England, right,

853
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 6: And you see it and that tells you that something's working.

854
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 6: And I will say that I think, yes, cleaning that

855
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 6: place up has been Rabel's greatest accomplishment from from what

856
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 6: it was just a few months ago to what it

857
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 6: is now. Coach of the Years, He's got my vote already.

858
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 6: But I think it's the hiring of Josh McDaniels to me,

859
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 6: best thing he could have done. And I remember criticizing it.

860
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 6: I was on TV like so boring, like try to

861
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 6: be a little outside the box, say oh New England,

862
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 6: like you're so inappropriate.

863
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now now I'm like, nice.

864
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 6: Job, coach, good job.

865
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: Now you're approving of the higher then they're off to

866
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: a six and teen.

867
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 6: You should see the tax exchange. Let's just say there's

868
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 6: not a lot of responses.

869
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 4: It's a one way exchange.

870
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 6: By the way, that would be a funny bit, like

871
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 6: because there are just some people that don't want to

872
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 6: communicate with you, Like it's just it's just what it is.

873
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 6: But you know me, I'm not going to quit. Like

874
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 6: I've got people that I've been Texas since twenty.

875
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 2: Seventeen, right and they still haven't responded, still have not responded.

876
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 6: I'll see them at events, I'll see them and I'm like, hey, Bobby,

877
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 6: I'm like, you ever gonna.

878
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 2: Hit me back?

879
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 4: Wait?

880
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: So you have people on your phone that you have

881
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: texted since twenty and seventeen on the regular, meaning you'll

882
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: text them like a couple of times a year and

883
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: you know they're not going to respond and get you

884
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: thunder forward and still text them again.

885
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 2: I love this. She's looking through her phone right now.

886
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 6: This is I would say there's a good amount we'll say,

887
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 6: four to five people who were in the NFL space

888
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 6: that I've been texting for over five years, consistently throughout

889
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 6: the years. Wow, whether it's free agency in season. I mean,

890
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 6: sometimes I'll do a good a good old like great win,

891
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 6: like just give me a heart, give me up, like

892
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 6: I've tried to. And the best is when I'm fighting

893
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 6: with myself within the text exchange, right, because then I'm like, Okay,

894
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 6: the honey's not working. I need to go a little

895
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 6: vinegar now. So I'm like, you know, you're on the

896
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 6: hot seat.

897
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: A little small talk before you go ahead for the kill.

898
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 6: I don't know if you know, but I work for

899
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 6: the New York Times. Now I write pieces ever heard

900
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 6: of it? Big pieces above link link link link.

901
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 2: Yes, she's trying to get in great win and great win.

902
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna put you on the fucking hot seat.

903
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 6: Still no response. Next next, next text great game GM

904
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 6: of the Year.

905
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so good.

906
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 6: Oh I do that too. I'm like, you know, I'm

907
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 6: an AP.

908
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 2: Voter, right, you bribe them? Uh? You threatening them.

909
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 6: I'm trying to get on the Hall of Fame voting Diana.

910
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 3: When we were in Tahoe, a big cat from part

911
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 3: of my take, his move was asking people, did you

912
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 3: just change your number?

913
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 1: M yes, and Aaron Rodgers' response was no, right, which

914
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: means Aaron wasn't getting back to him.

915
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 6: So I was actually thinking the other day a good

916
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 6: way to get like a player to come on and

917
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 6: interview with me is to text the player like, hey,

918
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 6: here's the link, see you in five and then be

919
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 6: like wait what and be like remember we agreed to this,

920
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 6: and then they don't have enough time to remember if

921
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 6: they agreed.

922
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: To it, and then just pop on no, say it

923
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: on the front end, say thanks for agreeing to do this,

924
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: here's the link.

925
00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: That's how you have to do it.

926
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 6: Oh so this was one of your You do this

927
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 6: with me all the time, so.

928
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: This is my wheelhouse.

929
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 6: Oh I can't see your text the worst by the way,

930
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 6: you text me the worst time too, because I think

931
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 6: you asked me to do the show when I was

932
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 6: in the middle of getting literally shot by people over

933
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 6: the weekend because of this column, and you're like, you know,

934
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 6: you just agreed. Your column's amazing. Oh, come on the show, okay, bye,

935
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 6: let me know what time. Let's just like like you

936
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 6: like slowly push into it, and I know it's coming.

937
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 6: I should I basically just scroll through the compliments and

938
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 6: just get to what you need.

939
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: Sure, but I asked less and less I mean out

940
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 2: of respect for you.

941
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 6: Would you be as an insider? You would be good.

942
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 2: I think I would be great at it. Yes, I

943
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 2: thought about doing it.

944
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 6: You have no shame, like you'd be like whatever, if

945
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 6: you don't want to talk to me, don't talk to me.

946
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: Zero shame. The owners wives would love me. The owners

947
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 1: would love me. I speak their language. I speak anyone's language. Okay,

948
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: that's the key to getting in with anyone.

949
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 2: I would be great at it, Like I've talked to

950
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 2: Chefter about it. I'd like to do it. Should I try?

951
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 6: Try?

952
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 2: You should?

953
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 6: There was a trade? Yeah, but you'd get annoyed, like

954
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 6: there was a tree last night and I texted the

955
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 6: GM about five minutes before, just because I have weird,

956
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 6: like spidy senses. Sometimes I was like, hey, guy's busy

957
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 6: doing anything? And then they trade and then I wrote back,

958
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 6: I guess so yeah, like I wrote back to myself.

959
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I think it's too late for me because I

960
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: twenty years in. The character has been formed and whether

961
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 1: you whether you believe it or not, I just don't

962
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: think anyone would trust any of the reporting that I

963
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: would do they would be like, get the fuck out

964
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: of yours together, right, Mikey's.

965
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 6: Actually it's so interesting you bring that up, because I

966
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 6: do think in twenty twenty five people don't care. People

967
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 6: just want them, really, they just want the intel and.

968
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: They'll believe anyone, right.

969
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 6: Yeah. Unfortunately, because there's so many people doing it, they

970
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 6: don't even trust the people that are doing this the

971
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 6: right way or accurately. You know, Like if you go

972
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 6: to any of my tweets and look at the responses,

973
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 6: people are nuts, like they're like, you're lying, you know,

974
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 6: your your AG's cousin, like you're whatever, you know, Like

975
00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 6: it's always these ridiculous theories that that people Hadj's cousin.

976
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 3: Like what, I don't want to brag, but I break

977
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 3: where Mac Collins signs every off season.

978
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 2: He's his best friend. Yes, how cool?

979
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 3: Right?

980
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 2: Yeah? Great?

981
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 3: I missed the Bills one because I was sleeping, not

982
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 3: men for the Inside Game one.

983
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. But the key is Diana never sleeps. That's that's

984
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 2: that's the key to the job. Right.

985
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 6: The best stories ever broke was Trent William's extension. When

986
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 6: I say best, it was because he was the biggest

987
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 6: free agent that year and that's how like you rank it, right,

988
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 6: And I was pregnant with Mikey at the time, and

989
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 6: that little sucker was kicking me all night, and I

990
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 6: remember getting up being like, I hate this baby. I

991
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 6: was so mad because I just needed some sleep.

992
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 2: Right, just an hour, It's an hour, leave me alone.

993
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 6: Little baby still kicks me and these four So I

994
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 6: checked my phone when I was just like walking around,

995
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 6: I like, get the baby to move, and I saw

996
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 6: a text from a player and I was like, oh

997
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 6: my god. And I like broke it like two in

998
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 6: the morning. And I remember I was at ESPN. That's

999
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 6: and Chapter's like, great job, like Sheffard thought it was

1000
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 6: because I was like so committed to the game. I

1001
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 6: was like, no, that that was like that was the

1002
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 6: effect of being a mom. Like that worked to my

1003
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 6: vantage for Mike.

1004
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 4: He technically broke that story.

1005
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 6: I'm going to say, yeah, oh, Mike, oh, I thought

1006
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 6: you meant like another Do you see man?

1007
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 2: I was like no, no, no, no, I saw it.

1008
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 2: I saw.

1009
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 4: No, absolutely not. I was like, oh, man, did you

1010
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 4: not hear me?

1011
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 2: I thought you were having a third person yeah, but

1012
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: you were watching your kid. What happened to your kid?

1013
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 6: Me?

1014
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1015
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: I mean you put the phone down because you get

1016
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: a textical player. He was in me, Mike, he was

1017
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Okay, the baby.

1018
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 2: Was still its You know.

1019
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 6: We can have conversations all day about the things that

1020
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 6: I do with my children. No, we have.

1021
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 2: Yes, I thought I thought was post birth. I'm sorry.

1022
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 6: I actually have said that before. My children were much

1023
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 6: safer when I was carrying them, as.

1024
00:48:55,280 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 2: No doubt, when they are not with me. You would

1025
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 2: miss this though.

1026
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: If you would miss this, if you stop doing it,

1027
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: like there's a rush to it that you love that,

1028
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: I think would your life feel empty without it? Or

1029
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: like thought about that because you could sit here and

1030
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,919
Speaker 1: do this with us every fucking day, just have fun

1031
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 1: and say whatever the hell you want.

1032
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 2: We're good with that.

1033
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 6: Yeah. I love what I do.

1034
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 4: I do.

1035
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 6: I'm proud of it. I think this is the best

1036
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 6: version of me professionally. This because I enjoy it. It

1037
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 6: has nothing to do with the level of success or

1038
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 6: the opportunities I've received because of all this. It's I

1039
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 6: genuinely enjoy it. I love the people I talk to.

1040
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 6: The relationship management is the biggest part of the game,

1041
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 6: and while it can be annoying because it's phone calls

1042
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 6: at weird hours and most of the times it's people complaining.

1043
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 6: The friendships and relationships I've built in football have been

1044
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 6: have been some of the best I have. So it's

1045
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 6: cool of me, Like, that's what's There's a lot of

1046
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 6: women doing it, not to make it a gender thing,

1047
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 6: but it's fun to be like the chick out there doing.

1048
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 2: It and you love the chase, right, you love chasing

1049
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 2: down the story you do. It's a rush.

1050
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know. My dad always asked me, like when

1051
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 6: do you get to stop that? Like when do you

1052
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 6: go to be like I've done enough?

1053
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 2: Yes? Right, Well, when do you have an answer?

1054
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 3: No?

1055
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 6: I am? I am. I'm never happy. I think that's

1056
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 6: what it is. Every day it's like, what how can

1057
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 6: I be better? How can I be the best at this?

1058
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 6: Who can I reach out to? How can I get smarter?

1059
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 6: How can I share more? Who can I trust? Like

1060
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 6: it's it's just con but I think that it's it's

1061
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 6: it's a blessing and a curse, right, Like it's what

1062
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 6: drives me every morning when I get up, but it's

1063
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 6: hard to turn off.

1064
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 2: Yep, all right. Check her out at the Athletic Scoop

1065
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 2: City is the podcast as well.

1066
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 6: The POD's going, well, yeah, POD's great, Pot's fun.

1067
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fu fun part of your job.

1068
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 6: I like writing, which is crazy. If you told me

1069
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 6: two years ago when I took this job, like, hey,

1070
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 6: you're going to write it during the week and you

1071
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 6: were going to be stressed and you were going to

1072
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 6: basically lock yourself at a coffee shop all day on

1073
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 6: Fridays and be on the phone for hours, I'd be like,

1074
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 6: ew pass. But I love it so fun. Thanks for reading.

1075
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 2: To write a book?

1076
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 6: What's that like?

1077
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 2: I'll go write it with you.

1078
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 6: What's writing a book like?

1079
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 2: I don't know, Astanzik