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Speaker 1: How long ago does that? See? Age is Thursday, Thursday night,

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Speaker 1: early Friday morning. Seems like forever ago. However, you wake

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Speaker 1: and so plenty to talk about. First of all, um,

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Speaker 1: how is your weekend? Which we don't We normally stay

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Speaker 1: the reason for your gloom this morning. It's it's Christmas shopping.

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Speaker 1: It's bad out there, Brian, It's bad. Would it be

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Speaker 1: that would be fun. It's really not bad out there,

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Speaker 1: it's bad in here. And found in the back pocket.

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Speaker 1: for a few things. Okay, so it's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: Oh you went to New York? How was your weekend?

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Speaker 1: very cold. I'm thankful to live in Florida. You've heard

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Speaker 1: well I am here. Can we make some sense of

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Speaker 1: this football team? We can attempt to. I thought at

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Speaker 1: Anything you'd be that bad. But the circumstances I thought

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Speaker 1: to do this. Who's your Exfinity player of the game.

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Speaker 1: I don't shoot the messenger on this. Uh, this is

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Speaker 1: player of the game. It's our Drive Time Bowl on

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Speaker 1: those things. He looks like he's a real fine well

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Speaker 1: and you feel good about it. Because Barrick Church wasn't

427
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Speaker 1: even dressed the other nine. Clearly he has a six

428
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 1: million dollar cap figure next year. He won't see that.

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Speaker 1: It allows the Jaguars to clear off a little bit

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Speaker 1: of cap space there, but they have a guy that

431
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Speaker 1: looks like a long term solution there, third round pick.

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Speaker 1: If you go up all right, let's go to the

433
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Speaker 1: second quarter, you're in seven place from the seven yard

434
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Speaker 1: line and the red zone. You came up with no points.

435
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Speaker 1: Then obviously we know what happened to play after that

436
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 1: Derrick Kenny yard touchdown run. It was the turning point

437
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: of the game and they're handed for not a chat

438
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Speaker 1: by a Titan defense Rashaan Fenders the first got through

439
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: and got him, and that I mean just standing on

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Speaker 1: the sideline. Slynn, you were there too. Uh, that was

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Speaker 1: the moment, Doug said afterwards. The game was over at

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00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 1: that point. I mean it was the dagger in the heart.

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00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: You don't go in with a chance to go up

444
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Speaker 1: nine to seven. Instead you're down thirteen to two after

445
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: they missed the extra point. It was a huge emotional

446
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 1: swing and you I don't want to say quit, but

447
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: you could see the deflation on the jag board sideline.

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00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: They knew how embarrassing that was. Deflation is a much

449
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Speaker 1: better word for this thing. Quick. I really don't believe

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Speaker 1: the jag was necessarily quit. But if you get one

451
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Speaker 1: or two guys who were deflated, which I guess could

452
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Speaker 1: be translated as quit at that moment. Uh, then you

453
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 1: get plays like you saw what the Henry play. I

454
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 1: got a lot of emails over the weekend. Uh, why

455
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Speaker 1: did they go forward here? Why didn't they take points? Um?

456
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: Because you're four and eight on the road Thursday night,

457
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: short week, often struggles and a couple of things of

458
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: legitimate reasons, why you go for it? They had been

459
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 1: very good in this situation in the two games where

460
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 1: Leonard Fornett had been playing against Pittsburgh and Buffalo, they

461
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Speaker 1: had driven it in inside the tent. So among all

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Speaker 1: the things over the last two months, if you wanted

463
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Speaker 1: to make a list of things they had been good at,

464
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: it's a pretty short list. But that was one of

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Speaker 1: them that they had been doing well. So, Uh, if

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Speaker 1: you're trying to grasp it's some sort of of an

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Speaker 1: identity of what you are, of what you think you're

468
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: doing well, of what you can go with. Um going

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Speaker 1: into that game, if it if you had said, hey,

470
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 1: they're on the three yard line with with two downs

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Speaker 1: to do it, wouldn't you have said, well, they should

472
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Speaker 1: run Leonard for net twice? I mean, so I didn't

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Speaker 1: have a problem with that with going forward in that situation, Um,

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Speaker 1: because it felt at that point like it was going

475
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Speaker 1: to be a game where points were scarce, So getting

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Speaker 1: up nine evan at that point, I do think it

477
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: would have you know, made a small difference. This wouldn't

478
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Speaker 1: have one, but it made a small difference. And I

479
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: think it's an important point. Um, quit is a voluntary thing.

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Speaker 1: It's a conscious decision. I didn't see that of deflation

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Speaker 1: right where you just you lose that enthusiasm that is

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Speaker 1: that's almost involuntary. I'm just telling you the sideline you

483
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: could just after that play, Um the ninety nine yards

484
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Speaker 1: and I turned to accidentally went, that's an NFL record,

485
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: tied Tony Dorset's NFL record. That's she went, thanks genius. Yeah,

486
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Speaker 1: why did you know it? I did not know? And

487
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 1: did I say Tony Dorset against Minnesota. But deflation all

488
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Speaker 1: on part right totally. But I'm dealing with someone here

489
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Speaker 1: who's three and wasn't alive when it was seven. Yeah, John,

490
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: did you see the original play? I did. Yeah, I

491
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: saw it on a black and white TV on Green Willow.

492
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Speaker 1: Line said against the bike, I watched it. Skins won

493
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? They yeah, okay, anything else yes, one more.

494
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: Cody Kessler sacked four times for forty five yards in

495
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Speaker 1: the top light start and the loss to the Titans

496
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: offensive line and not play well. So let's go to

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Speaker 1: the third quarter and see that bill to really generate

498
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 1: much scoring this year. Let Kessler brawlers out right now.

499
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: It's rolled a fumble and the Titans got on top

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Speaker 1: of it. So here's the here's the deflation right up.

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Speaker 1: You don't get them on fourth down and Derrick Henry

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Speaker 1: goes yards. You turn the ball over the very next play,

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Speaker 1: Derrick Henry goes what fifty two yard, fifty four yards? Whatever?

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00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: It was? Um, the bang bang play. And that showed you,

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00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 1: Jarl Case, he was just in the backfield all night.

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Speaker 1: Well and you saw there. It was I hate to

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Speaker 1: say microcosm of the season every time you see a

508
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: bad play, but here's a case where Kessler literally couldn't

509
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Speaker 1: even get his foot in the ground to turn round.

510
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: And you've got I think it was Flowers turned around

511
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: trying to pick him up. And you've got chat. You've

512
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: got a lot of guys who they didn't think we're

513
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: going to be starting. Um, we have two guys that

514
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: started the year on the Giants rosterm so and absolutely

515
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: Katie Barr the door before you didn't even turn around.

516
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: So uh again, they've scored eight points that matter in

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Speaker 1: three games or in two games. All Right, we will

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Speaker 1: take a break. When we come back. We'll have ozone

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Speaker 1: Before we get into ozone snapshot, we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about the Jaguars nationwide Walter Payton Man of the Year nominee,

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Speaker 1: and that is quarterback Blake Bortles. Now, despite everything that

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00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: we've said about Blake Bortles on the field, we all

549
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: can agree that if there were fifty three Blake Boardles

550
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: on your roster that it would be a good team

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Speaker 1: to be around. Nuts for sure, Yes, as a person,

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00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,479
Speaker 1: he's fantastic and his foundation the Blake Bortles Foundation supports

553
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: first responders and the developmental lee disabled. So let's see

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Speaker 1: what he has to say about his foundation. The areas

555
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: in need that my foundation supports are our first responders,

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00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: so cops, firefighters, UM, paramedics, and then also we do

557
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: a lot with with mentally disabled UM, so kind of

558
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: the arc here has won locally that that we support.

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00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: UM it's a it's a living facility. And then also

560
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: back home, there's there's a Challenger League that I was

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00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: involved in growing up and throughout high school. So those

562
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: are those are two, um, the two things that that

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Speaker 1: my foundation supports. And we talked about starting the foundation

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00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: and being able to be uh you know, kind of

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00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: active in the community and doing different things, and the

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Speaker 1: two areas that I really wanted to focus on we're

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Speaker 1: you know, mentally disabled in first responders, and both of

568
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: those um, you know categories had big impacts on my life,

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Speaker 1: you know, growing up playing football and ovido. All of

570
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: our coaches where firefighters were cops, so those were you

571
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: know a lot of mentors to me. And then I

572
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: got involved at a young age with the thing called

573
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Speaker 1: the Challenger Football League back in my hometown. UM and

574
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: created some great relationships and said, you know, if I

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00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: forget the opportunity to help people out, you know that

576
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: this is what I'm gonna help out. Good dude. A

577
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: lot of people in this building the cheer for him

578
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: personally for the things that he does. I'm one of them.

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Speaker 1: I just I've always enjoyed him. Um. By the way,

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00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: have you seen J. J. Watt The patch that he

581
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: wears on his jersey. It's it's the the man of

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00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: the year that it's Walter Payton. I guess in a

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Speaker 1: in a long coat. Uh. If I was an NFL player,

584
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: that's the patch I'd want that. It's very distinctive. It's

585
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: very subtle, but it says great player, great person. Yeah.

586
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: When I was with the Colts, paid Manning one that No.

587
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: Six o seven I think we what year it was,

588
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: but it was clear out of everything that he won

589
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: in his career that that was up there among the

590
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Speaker 1: ones that matter. A great deal. One thing about Blake

591
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: that um, I think most people realize, but that I

592
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: guessed to be restated. For him to be as involved

593
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: and as good in the communities as he's been can't

594
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: have always been easy because it's not like the criticism

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00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,719
Speaker 1: of him and the you know, the jokes and all

596
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: the stuff that you hear around Blake. The noise just

597
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: started in the last two months. It's it's really been

598
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: going on since he was a rookie. Um, A lot

599
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: of guys in his situation could have easily gone into

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00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,959
Speaker 1: a cocoon just coming in here and played quarterback. Uh

601
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: gone home, come in every He has managed to shut

602
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: out a lot of that and still been a major

603
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: factor in the community while a lot of noise and

604
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: a lot of bad things have been going on around

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Speaker 1: in terms of people saying things about him. So credit

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00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,719
Speaker 1: to him for making something that can have always been

607
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: easy look easy because you always said, I mean, I

608
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: think Blake everybody always says, ohways a great guy. Nobody

609
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: cares about that. Well, Um, it's not always easy to

610
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: be a great guy when you know people are criticizing

611
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: what you're doing on the field, etcetera, etcetera. So I

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Speaker 1: think I credit to him to be a Man of

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Speaker 1: the Year after candidate, after everything that he's gone through

614
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: and through criticism off on the yield is impressive, impressive

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00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: and it does mattery. People do care about that for sure, alright.

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Speaker 1: Uh time for snapshot. All right, let's go to Mark

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Speaker 1: from Archer, Florida. I recently read an article that stated

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Speaker 1: there is a growing chance that Tom Coughlin is going

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Speaker 1: to take over as coach for the Jags. Next cut

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Speaker 1: you off? Good? Are you talked? I mean, we've are

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Speaker 1: you going over this topic? Growing chance? Growing chance is

622
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Speaker 1: the one that I love, Ryan, A growing chance there

623
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Speaker 1: was a growing chance to one pent is growing. Since

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00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: we've already done this, I'll bring up a different topic. Um.

625
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: I got incredible number emails this week about should they

626
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Speaker 1: trade Jalen Ramsey? It is he a problem? And I

627
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: think it stems from a lot of the same thing

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Speaker 1: that this Tom cough An article. There was some story

629
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Speaker 1: or or something where somebody was talking about Jalen Ramsey

630
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Speaker 1: over the weekend. I guess it was Pro Football Talk.

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Speaker 1: Took his quotes after that ain't totally out of context, Um,

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00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: because they weren't there. You were. Did you have any

633
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: problem with anything? He said, nothing? Right, nothing. Let me

634
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: take a step further. And he wasn't throwing his teammates

635
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: under the bus and those things. If you listen to him,

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Speaker 1: he was trying, I thought, and I wasn't there for

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Speaker 1: the whole thing. But I think I missed one of

638
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Speaker 1: his questions. Um. I thought he was trying to be

639
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Speaker 1: as stand up as he could and answer questions honestly,

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Speaker 1: and I in no way thought that he was trying

641
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: to shine the light on himself. Uh. And for that,

642
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: I understand the internet age we live in that people

643
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Speaker 1: take quotes and it gets aggregated it and it's like

644
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Speaker 1: the game you know, sure well spot it up where

645
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: you whisper in your friends here and all of a

646
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: sudden comes out the other thing on the other side. Um.

647
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Speaker 1: I didn't think that was that at all, And I

648
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: thought that Jaalen in the last month has moved very

649
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Speaker 1: far away from that to where I don't think he's

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Speaker 1: an issue. I've been beating that drum, you know, about

651
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Speaker 1: how professional he's been and how I've seen it. Um.

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Speaker 1: So when I saw that Pro Football Talk had done that,

653
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Speaker 1: I thought, whoa, whoa, WHOA. Did I get this wrong?

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Speaker 1: Because if you recall in my quick thoughts, my last

655
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Speaker 1: quick thought was about Jalen uh and how I thought

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Speaker 1: that he had quietly throughout the course of the game.

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00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: You know, further, that narrative that we've had about how

658
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: he's grown, so he um was miked up during the game,

659
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 1: and I had the chance to hear him talk okay,

660
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Speaker 1: at a much greater level than I normally do with

661
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: just him behind the bench. And I'm telling you, I

662
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: was impressed with the way that he dealt with his teammates,

663
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Speaker 1: with the circumstances with his coaches. When I read the

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk thing all, I wanted to fire off

665
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Speaker 1: a tweet. I decided not to because they would just

666
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: hit with it while you work for the team nonsense.

667
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: But the reality of it was they got it out.

668
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: They got it wrong. Jalen Ramsey. I wouldn't trade him

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Speaker 1: at all. Great player who appears to be growing and

670
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: maturing in the locker room and into a And I

671
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 1: hate the word leadership because everyone wants to do the

672
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 1: leadership like it's raw rock college football with it. It's not.

673
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Speaker 1: But you talked about lead by example, man, he does it,

674
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: does it at least he has the last month. He

675
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: has come a long way since that really rotten Sunday

676
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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, where on the field and on the bench

677
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: he was a paint nonsense. Yeah, I think everyone will

678
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: be impressed if they go to Jaguars dot Com and

679
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: watch that because I was impressed watching it. And then

680
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: you go back to Pro Football Talk, and it's hard

681
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: to taken into context when you're not standing there in

682
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: the locker room after a loss. Weil and so the

683
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: other thing is Todd wash comes and puts his arm

684
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: around him late in the ball game and talk to

685
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Speaker 1: him about how impressed he was with the way that

686
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Speaker 1: he handled himself, and he could see the way he

687
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Speaker 1: interacted with his teammates. Um, if they watched that Pro

688
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: Football talkle offer a retraction, let's hope. So all right,

689
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: let's go to Jeff from Jacksonville. What are your thoughts

690
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: John on the Jack's possibly trading their first round pick

691
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: to a rebuilding team for a first round of their

692
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: following season and maybe a lower pick the end game

693
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Speaker 1: to put yourself in a position to get to h

694
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: or Murray. I think this will give a team that

695
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: AMMO to possibly trade up and get one of them. Yeah,

696
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: and quite the situation we're here now where it's gonna

697
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: be draft talk. Uh, that's sort of the reason I

698
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: chose this. And I'm getting draft questions all the time,

699
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: which I won't use very many of them. Mental life

700
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: of the season. Um, that question, those sort of implies

701
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: that they would be waiting for two thousand twenty. I

702
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: don't think this franchise is going to be in a

703
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 1: wait and try to build for the future kind of

704
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: thing to the degree. And I got into everybody's head

705
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: because that's what they did in two thousand and twelve thirteen.

706
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 1: If you remember, Ah, there was a much more measured

707
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: approach of saying, well, it's okay, we'll build for three

708
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: or four years down the road. I don't think they're

709
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: going to I don't think the temperature of the organization

710
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: will be that they take that kind of approach. I

711
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 1: have no idea what they're doing in the draft next year.

712
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: I get that, but I don't think it's going to

713
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: be well, let's tear down a lot and then build

714
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: for something way out in the future. Uh. That just

715
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: doesn't feel to me like something that they're gonna want

716
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 1: to do after what happened with it last time. We

717
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: not talk about how Calais Campbell belongs here next year

718
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: with his salary the way that it is, not even

719
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: don't even bother redoing it. He's worth the money. Why

720
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 1: would you pay him or Marcel. Why would you pay

721
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: some of these big dollar contracts to Shawn Gibson if

722
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: you keep him around If you're not going to win

723
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: right away? What why say, well, we're not, we're rebuilding

724
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: and pay this. If you're rebuilding, you you tear it

725
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: down and you clear salary cap room right away. So

726
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 1: you go find a veteran quarterback to bridge until your

727
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield to use him as an example, Uh is

728
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: ready to go? No, there's yeah, you're you're not thinking

729
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: about you're thinking about nineteen and the do they remember that?

730
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: Is as silly as that might sound, Oh you're four

731
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: and nine. Uh, it's not like they've gotten blown out.

732
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: I mean I think when this a franchise looks at

733
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: what to do next, they will with reason look at

734
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: all the offensive injuries, look at everything that happened, and

735
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: still look at how close this team was to being

736
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: seven and six, eight and five. And I'm not talking

737
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: about fooling themselves into into thinking certain things don't need

738
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: to happen. But I also don't think they need to

739
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: look at it and say, oh, my goodness, were so

740
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: far away that we couldn't possibly compete. If it's Tom

741
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: Coughlin at the top, which I still believe it is.

742
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: Do you think he's gonna come in and say, Brian,

743
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: we're a long way away and we're gonna build one.

744
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: I don't think he's by the way. You know, you're

745
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: talking about a man who's in his early seventies, but

746
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 1: he can't be thinking long term at that point in time.

747
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: You're thinking about right now. He didn't think long term.

748
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: Say I said that Tom was never a long term

749
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 1: He's a coach. He's in a new role, but coaches

750
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: think about today. It's the general managers. The day he

751
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: was ticked off when they were ow in two and

752
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 1: when they had no talent. So I mean, I'll never forget.

753
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: After they lost the opening game to the Houston Oilers,

754
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: he said, I'm not a patient man, but you just

755
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: took an expansion job. You better be patient. That's not

756
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: who it's not who he is. And as long as

757
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: he's sitting at the top. But I'll say it again,

758
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: if you're thinking about and skipping over, there's no reason

759
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: to keep the high dollar guys on defense, right. You'll

760
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: know very quickly if those guys are coming back, they're

761
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: not looking at twenty jobs. Because why I spend the

762
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: money is that it one more good Old James. Remind

763
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: me again what the leaders are on this team, and

764
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: is it possible Paul pas Lesnie had such a big

765
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: impact on this team, both as a leader and his

766
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: ability to motivate someone like Kelvin Smith that he is

767
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: so very missed. Yeah, and parts of this resonate a

768
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: little bit. But Paul didn't motivate Telvin Smith. Tell was

769
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: probably capable of motivating self. Uh. I think there are

770
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: elements of of positive miss. I think these elements of

771
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: Mercedes that are miss. I think an overall losing those

772
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 1: two guys certainly didn't help, um, But I don't believe

773
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Speaker 1: that if they had, if they had resigned or being

774
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: able to draw Paul pause lessni back, I don't think

775
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 1: the outcome of this season is dramatically different. I don't

776
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: think he's a offensive guard. I mean, so catch the

777
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: ball now? Would the run defense have been better in

778
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: that situation? Is he a better run stuffing player? Sure? Uh,

779
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: in situation like that it might help. But um, there's

780
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: been sort of a narrative of boy, if they had

781
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: had paused all these miscommunications on defense, wouldn't have happened

782
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 1: he played of place last year. He was not calling

783
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 1: the defense there. There was a standard that he said

784
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: that I think other players naturally try to live up

785
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: to that I think would have helped, but it wouldn't

786
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: have been the difference between four and nine and in playoffs. No,

787
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: and you still have Kilis here who represents the highest

788
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: virtues and values of a locker room that Paul did.

789
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Speaker 1: So all, let's take our final break when we come back,

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Speaker 1: great quarterbacks, but Aaron Rodgers set an NFL record yesterday

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Speaker 1: when he passed Tom Brady with his hold on and

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Speaker 1: the guy couldn't hold on. Finished with the three consecutive

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Speaker 1: And there's some criticism of him up there that he

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Speaker 1: should be taking more chances, but that's what you're gonna

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838
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Speaker 1: This one caught me off guard because it said that

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Speaker 1: Fitzgerald catches Rice. He caught one of his records in

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Speaker 1: his fifteenth season with the Cardinals. Hard to remember, you know,

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Speaker 1: hard to forget just how great a player. Let me

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Speaker 1: player he is because he's played out there in Arizona

847
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Speaker 1: the last few years without a quarterback. But he passed

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Speaker 1: Jerry Rice for the most catches with one team. Jerry

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Speaker 1: San Francisco forty Niners before finishing his career with the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: And yesterday, uh, Fitzgerald caught his one thousand, two hundred

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Speaker 1: eighty second pass. So he got one of Jerry Rice's records.

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Speaker 1: And that's significant because do you want to jump in here. Well,

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Speaker 1: I was gonna tell Ashley Jerry Rice was a wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't the Widers most records? When you see Jerry Rice,

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Speaker 1: I think there's no way anyone's catching that right his

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Speaker 1: catch number. Wrote this down to make sure I had

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Speaker 1: it right. He is number one in NFL history with

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Speaker 1: one thousand, five hundred and forty nine catches. Think about that,

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Speaker 1: Fitzgerald is three hundred roughly three hundred behind him in

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Speaker 1: his NFL season, So you think that's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: A number of yards all times six thousand on catching

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Speaker 1: him right, and how often did these guys come along?

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Speaker 1: You'll I don't think you'll ever see those records go down. Well,

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Speaker 1: somebody will break right eventually because the game is changing

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Speaker 1: so much. But what's striking about Rice is in his

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Speaker 1: first five, six seven years, the NFL was not yet

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Speaker 1: the passing league it is now. Although the Niners were

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Speaker 1: always ahead of the curve right then, were not set

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Speaker 1: up to be like it is now. The biggest thing

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Speaker 1: with Rice is somebody will have to want to play

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Speaker 1: that long, uh, and be able to play that long

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Speaker 1: and take care of himself to play that long, because

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Speaker 1: he had four or five years after he should have

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Speaker 1: been done where he was still piling up numbers have

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Speaker 1: to catch. You think Randy Moss at a time, there

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Speaker 1: was a moment where it looked like he but he didn't.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's been out of the game a long

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Speaker 1: time already, so I don't know I'd be surprised by

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Speaker 1: the way he played at Mississippi Valley State. So don't

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Speaker 1: let anybody tell you you have to play at Florida

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Speaker 1: or Alabama to have a successful career. Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 1: one of the greats to come out of Mississippi Valley State.

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Speaker 1: And I'll do it for Monday morning, UH, following an

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Speaker 1: off weekend after the Thursday night loss. UH. Jackson Redskins

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Speaker 1: coming up Sunday final home game. Of course, we'll be

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Speaker 1: here all week. John will join us on Wednesday and Friday.

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Speaker 1: Bat'll lew it for Jags drive time. Thanks to Joe

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Speaker 1: and Max. Have a great day, everybody.