WEBVTT - Conversations With Northern Cali Part 2 (Tunnel Vision)

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<v Speaker 1>What's up?

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<v Speaker 2>And welcome back to another episode of No Sealers Podcast

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<v Speaker 2>with your host, Now fuck that with your loaw glasses Malone. Yeah, no, nah,

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't dropped it yet. We got the video, so

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<v Speaker 2>we shot the video. Right, video came out, dope, got

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<v Speaker 2>to make a couple of little special effects, some little

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<v Speaker 2>stuff to make it kind of cool. Then add the

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<v Speaker 2>story in it. But it'll be done. But what's crazy

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<v Speaker 2>is I've been getting a lot of like a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people have been coming to me kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>on some like, oh, we give you money for this percentage,

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<v Speaker 2>like Okay, here's this money to do what you want

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<v Speaker 2>to do. And then when we recoup, like it'll be

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<v Speaker 2>a split like seventy thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>Or something seventy thirty day way or your.

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<v Speaker 2>Seventy thirty my way. But it's like and then shout

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<v Speaker 2>out the top Dog. Top Dog just made a play.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my man with Orchard the Orchard Sony's digital distribution

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<v Speaker 2>wing right. And but it's just funny how I see

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<v Speaker 2>the game and I think everybody think I'm going crazy

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<v Speaker 2>because they like, like we've been in the now like

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years, like twenty years we've been doing this so

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<v Speaker 2>like all the relationship like when you bring that D

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<v Speaker 2>boy mentality like to this shit, right, you bring in

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<v Speaker 2>this whole like way you treat people like if you

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<v Speaker 2>like what well I could say for me the type

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<v Speaker 2>of D boy I was when I was hustling, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>PCP sharn like. It was like I treated everybody the same.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care if you could only afford a stick,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, or two gallons, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>talk to you like I got some sense. So I

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<v Speaker 2>brought the same attitude into the business, and it's allowed me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's allowed me to kind of it's allowed me to

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<v Speaker 2>to maintain relationships. And so the people that was at

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<v Speaker 2>the front door now run the building, right, absolutely right,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. The people that's at the

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<v Speaker 2>front door now they run the building. Put that mike

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<v Speaker 2>a little closer to you, just a little bit. So

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<v Speaker 2>the people that's at the front door now they run

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<v Speaker 2>the building, you know what I'm saying. And now these

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<v Speaker 2>are people who maybe everybody might have ignored them at

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<v Speaker 2>one time in their life, No, sir, one time in

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<v Speaker 2>their life, you know what I'm saying, Like somebody talk

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<v Speaker 2>to them like they had some sense so now all

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<v Speaker 2>my I say that to say, all my relationships is

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<v Speaker 2>in play, right, and so it's people like men see

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you need.

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<v Speaker 1>So like a distribution.

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<v Speaker 2>She could come to me and be like, well, we

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<v Speaker 2>need five weeks to pitch, and I'm like, nah, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>just call my people at Apple. I just called the

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<v Speaker 2>homiet title. I'll just call my homegirl that's Spotify. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to wait four to five weeks to pitch.

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<v Speaker 2>So every time somebody is saying something to me, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the ideas and shout out to King and coach.

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<v Speaker 2>They were just saying that, it's like they feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm losing my mind or I have like a tunnel

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<v Speaker 2>vision to where I don't want to hear certain things,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like, nas, it's not like I don't hear

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<v Speaker 2>y'all's just you know what I mean. It's like, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess I should say, what's wrong with tunnel vision?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, here's the deal. People can't see your vision right.

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<v Speaker 3>Your vision is your vision, and so when you expanding

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<v Speaker 3>your horizon, you built up these relationships from years and

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<v Speaker 3>years and years of doing the right thing, treating people

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<v Speaker 3>kind and respectful. So now the seeds that you've sown

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<v Speaker 3>are coming back and you see what I'm saying, So

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<v Speaker 3>this is just good seeds that you plan it basically,

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<v Speaker 3>so they don't understand the seeds that you planned. They

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<v Speaker 3>weren't out there while you was guarding your grass, while

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<v Speaker 3>you was playing your seeds.

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<v Speaker 2>So only they see it, and then I could show

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<v Speaker 2>them the vision. But I just think that I always

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<v Speaker 2>used to realize some hug like swear to God, like

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest people I've ever dealt with in them music

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<v Speaker 2>video are a little bit delusion on right. So whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's Lil Wayne, like people think Lil Wayne when he

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<v Speaker 2>say like, man, I don't know what's going on, He's serious,

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<v Speaker 2>like he is so locked in, locked in right, and

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<v Speaker 2>different people talk to me and everybody I knew great,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the greatest people. Dog dog don't have Snoop

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<v Speaker 2>don't have no idea. Like I remember the first time

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<v Speaker 2>we actually had a face to face conversation and there

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<v Speaker 2>was this argument where I'm like, bro, you're Snoop Dogg.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, Nigga, I know. I'm like, no, you don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean, Like you don't know your

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<v Speaker 2>Snoop Dogg. When I'm saying that, like you've been snooped

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<v Speaker 2>so long you don't know that you're Snoop Dog. And

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<v Speaker 2>it sounded crazy, but I'm like, you mean so much

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<v Speaker 2>to anybody that come from where we come from, and

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<v Speaker 2>now you mean so much to anybody from any ghetto period, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So like I was only when, I'm like, if you

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<v Speaker 2>just acknowledge somebody, that shit could be the difference between

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<v Speaker 2>them going to prison, right and them trying to keep going.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, bro, you could just say, man, keep going,

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<v Speaker 2>I see you, and that shit will change our life definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>So Snoop Jay, all these people I've done met over

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<v Speaker 2>the time, even Scarface, you know what I mean. Scarface

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<v Speaker 2>say some shit, I'll be like, that's crazy. But what

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<v Speaker 2>helped me understand them now is kind of get into

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<v Speaker 2>my own sense. And I feel like when I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>to my coach, to Will, or when I'm talking to

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<v Speaker 2>King for me or anybody else in my life, they

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<v Speaker 2>hear the tunnel vision and they think that I'm diluted,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, wow, like I didn't push myself this

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<v Speaker 2>far with information and talent to where now they see

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<v Speaker 2>me the way I see wing Now, they don't see

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<v Speaker 2>me as successful. You know, they not like glasses that

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<v Speaker 2>ain't happened just yet, but when it happens, it'll kind

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<v Speaker 2>of be like they you can see people already see it.

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<v Speaker 2>They already saw it happening. So again it's like it's

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<v Speaker 2>just weird, you know what I mean. And it's funny

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<v Speaker 2>because in their mind, like King was trying to send

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<v Speaker 2>me a video about somebody saying something about like we

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<v Speaker 2>was having this conversation. I'm everybody know, I'm really die

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<v Speaker 2>hard about poor black people. I don't want nobody talking

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<v Speaker 2>about poor black people. We already had enough up in

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<v Speaker 2>this motherfucking world. Only nobody else talking about, especially not

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<v Speaker 2>know another black person. So he sent me a video

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<v Speaker 2>where the title said how lower black class people became,

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<v Speaker 2>How lower class blacks became the face of the black community. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the video could add a lot of great conversation. It

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<v Speaker 2>could have been some life altering shites.

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<v Speaker 1>And that shit title.

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<v Speaker 2>I was telling Coach. Coach felt like he was like, man, Glass,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't tell me you don't think you be the

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<v Speaker 2>smartest person in the room. I'm like, not even close.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in a room with so many hugs. It's so

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<v Speaker 2>many things I know that you know that I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know stretch. I don't surround myself with people that I

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<v Speaker 2>think can offer me some level of knowledge, tutelage, wisdom.

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<v Speaker 2>So how the hell could I think that? But I

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<v Speaker 2>get what it is. My spirit and soul is so

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<v Speaker 2>strong on the people that they really think that this

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<v Speaker 2>is my mind, like I could. We could be talking

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<v Speaker 2>today on a pot on the stream. We were talking

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<v Speaker 2>about what happened with Smokey Robinson, and I've been telling

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<v Speaker 2>them I rewinded it back to R Kelly, and I'm like, hey, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>because we didn't speak up for R Kelly. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't take care of the worst of our society,

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<v Speaker 2>right Bill Cosby, That's fair. They're charging for the crime. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the crime, whether or not you did it.

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<v Speaker 2>At least it's just a charge for the crime. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you did this drop clayludes and these ladies drinks.

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<v Speaker 1>This is your charge. R Kelly.

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<v Speaker 2>It should be statutory rate, definitely. It should be like

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<v Speaker 2>they had federal pornography with a minor fine.

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<v Speaker 3>What is rico?

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<v Speaker 1>What is trafficking? What's the Man Act?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm saying and I'm telling them, I'm like, we

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<v Speaker 2>should be fighting that, you should be like, no, this

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<v Speaker 2>this is the right thing. That's the wrong thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>because we didn't. And I was telling them back then,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, this is going back far, so bad on us,

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<v Speaker 2>because they gonna be able to start doing anything and

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<v Speaker 2>the ain't gonna let anything go with us. And now

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<v Speaker 2>we're looking and now I have to rationalize a seventy

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<v Speaker 2>three year old man because this has had to be

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<v Speaker 2>about seventy three when this happened, because he's by eighty six. Now, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he had to be about seventy three. I have to

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<v Speaker 2>imagine what it would be like for him to course

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<v Speaker 2>or force somebody into sex.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Man, he's smoking. He ain't have to do nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>that's nobody.

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<v Speaker 3>But the fact that I even have to eat, it's

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<v Speaker 3>put in your mind. You see what I'm saying. This

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<v Speaker 3>is part of the enemies playing, right, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>put smut on your name. If I say you a

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<v Speaker 3>goat fucker, you are a goat fucker until you prove otherwise.

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<v Speaker 3>And even if you prove otherwise. Oh, that's his nigga

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<v Speaker 3>out there, the goat fucker. That's the meme that came

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<v Speaker 3>across or the title, the hashtag whatever, right, So it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's part of the smear campaign, the smear tactic, right,

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<v Speaker 3>in order to keep us from stepping up. Oh ship,

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<v Speaker 3>if it happened to them, it might happen to me,

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<v Speaker 3>you see.

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<v Speaker 2>And what scares me, big dog, no siblings podcast. I

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<v Speaker 2>got my brother Hug from North Carolina, California. Jus that point,

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<v Speaker 2>Frisco all that good stuff, shout.

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<v Speaker 3>Out to worldwide snail in the building.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll watch up. What if another FRISCO representative for me?

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's like because we didn't speak up for

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<v Speaker 2>that even did he right?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? Did he?

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<v Speaker 2>She bet you found weapons? That's all serial numbers. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we take that felony assault federals saw, but the RICO

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<v Speaker 2>come back with the RICO and they double back with

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<v Speaker 2>the RICO and then and now they're oh, well glasses,

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<v Speaker 2>you know they have one where you could you don't

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<v Speaker 2>charge the CoCN SPEARSS when like, I know, that's.

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<v Speaker 3>The only one person in the RICO. Now, this is

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<v Speaker 3>what's what's hot now.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that's the new stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Hey, we're gonna isolate you.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're not gonna charge anybody else, and and and

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<v Speaker 2>then people trying to rationalize that law. And I tell

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<v Speaker 2>them all the time, like a law right is like

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<v Speaker 2>we see a law as a paragraph man a loss pages.

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<v Speaker 3>And sub topics and blah blah and addendums and amendments

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<v Speaker 3>and blah blah. Let me give you another example. So

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<v Speaker 3>when I first came back from the military, right, they

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<v Speaker 3>instituted the Patriot Act. They can anything. They can get

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<v Speaker 3>your phone, they can when they ordered homeland security, big

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<v Speaker 3>brother has fully come into the building, tap into everything

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<v Speaker 3>you want. And then that once again, that gives them

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<v Speaker 3>to go to a Rico type thing because we can

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<v Speaker 3>use this Patriot Act. You're doing your homeland security. What

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<v Speaker 3>do they say, puppy the guns across the line, sex

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<v Speaker 3>traffic in or whatever. You see what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>So the same thing needed to big you. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>like this the spirit of that law. Look, I no

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<v Speaker 2>matter how much of an outlaw I am, it just

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<v Speaker 2>means that I recognize why law needs to exist in society, right,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm not. I don't want this to be an

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<v Speaker 2>outlaw society.

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<v Speaker 3>No no, no, no, no, no Wild West all over again.

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<v Speaker 3>And hey, I'll live.

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<v Speaker 2>My life outside, and I'm okay with the accountability. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's weird when you watch people participate within the law

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<v Speaker 2>and they don't make the systems stick with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they they pick and choose of who they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to go against. Right if it's a high profile that

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<v Speaker 3>they want to drain for money, because it's it's a

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<v Speaker 3>money grab, right, It's it's the lawyer system. It's the

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<v Speaker 3>block and.

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<v Speaker 2>The prosecutor trying to make a big name and get.

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<v Speaker 3>A pay right, Right, I'm going to tear down everybody

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<v Speaker 3>to get my name up so I can go to

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<v Speaker 3>the other side. Charge everybody this big money. I'll get

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<v Speaker 3>at hey.

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<v Speaker 1>Community like these words, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>So look, I got a theory. Check this out. What

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<v Speaker 3>if I remember Pod had this theory and I see

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<v Speaker 3>Snoop cooking and round with the youth football league. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>that's every city, but that should be going every rapper

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<v Speaker 3>should have at every entertainer should have to be kind

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<v Speaker 3>of working together. Right. What if we get ten lawyers

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<v Speaker 3>in every community starting at ninth grade, and we make

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<v Speaker 3>sure we pay for their school all the way through

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<v Speaker 3>they've done, then they come back and give five years

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<v Speaker 3>to the community then you break them down. You got

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<v Speaker 3>two in criminals, you got two in civil you got

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<v Speaker 3>two in family law. You got two in and their

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<v Speaker 3>job is the mentor the next twenty and then the

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<v Speaker 3>next and now you have it going in every city,

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<v Speaker 3>a major law pipeline to defend us against these wordsmiths.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all everybody else did, right, That's it. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>no life before. I went to my my homies and

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<v Speaker 2>I was telling them that on a portrait. Some of

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<v Speaker 2>my homies could validate this. They don't remember when they

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<v Speaker 2>hear this podcast. I say, man, I think we could

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<v Speaker 2>do some stuff better. Like what you mean now? Mind you,

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<v Speaker 2>All the dudes that's older than me was either in

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<v Speaker 2>jail or they was doing something else. I was pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much the only person that had any experience at any

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<v Speaker 2>high level of gang banging in the neighborhood. For the

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<v Speaker 2>most part, I was. I was one of the greatest

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<v Speaker 2>says in the community. And I remember telling them, like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>we should hey, man, you I had a homy named Duke.

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<v Speaker 2>Duke was like this guy that he wasn't a buster.

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<v Speaker 2>He would stand up and fight, but he wasn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>a trooper. He wasn't a jar head, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, That ain't his getting And I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>we should make Duke a police and I was telling him.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, man, this nigga smart. We should put this

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<v Speaker 2>nigga through school for I'm telling them, and I remember

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<v Speaker 2>they was. They just couldn't pitch it.

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<v Speaker 1>Even now.

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<v Speaker 2>I told my homies within the last five years, and

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<v Speaker 2>we should charge a tax like a dude to be

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<v Speaker 2>from the set. Every month we all contribute.

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<v Speaker 3>This fund and that helps with that helps with rent,

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<v Speaker 3>That helps with.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the young homies that's out there when they

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<v Speaker 2>got some insurance dollars and you just see everybody because

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<v Speaker 2>it's just a fear of like it's a fear you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean of like I don't trust.

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<v Speaker 3>Well once again, the smear campaign, right, the smear campaign

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<v Speaker 3>is you y'all not gonna work together in collectivity as

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<v Speaker 3>long as I keep pushing you all apart, long as

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<v Speaker 3>I keep this one against that, the old Jim what's

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<v Speaker 3>that called the just the Jimmy Lynch Road, the Jim Crow,

0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:51.360
<v Speaker 3>the Willia Lynch's letter, right to pitch everybody against each other? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Why don't I trust glasses? What do I have against

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<v Speaker 3>glasses craziest.

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<v Speaker 2>They trust me with their life, right, right, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>a differ for us to trust me with your future.

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<v Speaker 3>How about that?

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's so that's kind of what it's mean.

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<v Speaker 3>So, but it's but it's also when you got to

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<v Speaker 3>unthink your natural way of growing up. Understand this everybody

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<v Speaker 3>I call it inner city syndrome. Everybody across the United

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<v Speaker 3>States that grew up in the inner city, we all

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<v Speaker 3>had to navigate through the wolves going to school, coming

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<v Speaker 3>home from school, at the game, coming back from the game,

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<v Speaker 3>we we gotta we gotta run and joke we said

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<v Speaker 3>at the studio. We was raised around serial killers. We

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<v Speaker 3>look back and show enough.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like the time she killer.

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<v Speaker 3>But but do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what every right with some soldiers, right, if

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<v Speaker 2>it was a serial killer the community, he wouldn't last.

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<v Speaker 2>He was just knocking off people. Mom, sure somebody who

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<v Speaker 2>might have knocked.

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<v Speaker 4>The head some hitters understand that, you know, because the

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<v Speaker 4>way we grow up, it's like we're black, so we

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<v Speaker 4>don't pay two.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got different friends, Like let's just say.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, we didn't grow up the way I grew up,

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<v Speaker 4>So he don't look at some the way we look

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<v Speaker 4>at something. But like when you think about a serial killers,

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<v Speaker 4>say he killed two or three or more people, you

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<v Speaker 4>look around a lot of people that we know that

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<v Speaker 4>in the life we lived.

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<v Speaker 2>The definition has definitely got a little lazier, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>right right right, our homies be at war.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's I say, that's our running joke as we

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<v Speaker 3>have trying to trying to understand this. Right now that

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<v Speaker 3>we're older and we look back on it, it's like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>we made it through this thing. We're the survivors to

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<v Speaker 3>tell the story of how people made through. And everybody

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<v Speaker 3>didn't take the same role to get from home to

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<v Speaker 3>school to get through their past. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought we all grew up the same people everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Me too, me too, me too. I didn't realize I

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<v Speaker 2>was explaining this to somebody, and I was telling them

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<v Speaker 2>over and over again. I'm like, we don't actually make

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<v Speaker 2>money to get out the hood. No, the hood is

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<v Speaker 2>not our enemy.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>And she couldn't believe it. She was like, I heard

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<v Speaker 2>so many people. I'm like, they're lying, or they're not

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<v Speaker 2>from the.

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<v Speaker 1>Hood, or they wouldn't they was a bitch.

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<v Speaker 2>Or they was busting right, I mean, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>none of us thought about nothing else. We hustled to

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<v Speaker 2>make money, to make money. We wanted stuff, cars. Some

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<v Speaker 2>homies it was just eating right. But then other homies,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like me, I wanted more. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>pay for college. That's how it started off. Then it

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<v Speaker 2>was like, well I can make my money. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna just make a living and I'm gonna live. So

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<v Speaker 2>I was explaining to her, like, we don't none. I

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<v Speaker 2>never heard that, oh I'm making money to lead the hood.

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<v Speaker 2>I never want to cut I've never in my life

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<v Speaker 2>heard a human being ever say that. Not none. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying something didn't think that, but that never

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<v Speaker 2>would have made sense. I never heard it. That would

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<v Speaker 2>have Like we too busy making the environment curve to

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<v Speaker 2>us to curve to the environment. And she just thought

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<v Speaker 2>that was so crazy. And I'm like, yeah, that's the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, like, yeah, that's that's how

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<v Speaker 2>we do it. And but to the point I was

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<v Speaker 2>saying that initially, like to them, it's like this level

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<v Speaker 2>of tunnel vision where they like and I'm like, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not that, it's not that I think I'm right. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just I've thought about what I'm saying. And if you

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<v Speaker 2>say something like you said some British stuff that made

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<v Speaker 2>me think a lot of things. People could say anything,

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<v Speaker 2>as long as you don't pre face it.

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<v Speaker 3>Fuck it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you pre face it.

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<v Speaker 3>Fucked up.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm already gonna think off time, off off time, pre

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<v Speaker 2>face it again. I'm the type of person to take

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollar advice from a bum in the streets. But

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<v Speaker 2>if you start this billion dollar advice telling me you

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<v Speaker 2>broke ass.

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<v Speaker 3>Nigga tuned out off top.

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<v Speaker 2>And it don't matter because you intended, you're not. Your

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<v Speaker 2>energy is not there to help in a correct way. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>it's one thing to be critical or to say something

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, oh you know what, hey, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>handle your money correctly. That wouldn't bother me, even though

0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:19.240
<v Speaker 2>that could be a critigue when somebody's personally trying to

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<v Speaker 2>demean you, like that specific title, how the lower class

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<v Speaker 2>blacks became the face of the culture.

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<v Speaker 1>Immediately.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but that clip, that's all that type of thing

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<v Speaker 3>that And once again, who are they trying to target, right,

0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:38.200
<v Speaker 3>They're trying to target a whole nother demographic to come

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<v Speaker 3>and look at this on a lower level, right, So

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<v Speaker 3>it's the two two part sword. They're two double edged sword,

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<v Speaker 3>you know facts.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that's all that's been. So like finishing the video, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and I got a tunnel vision right, and all these

0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:54.520
<v Speaker 2>people now it's three or four companies trying.

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<v Speaker 3>To do deals.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody trying to Oh they gonna do a deal, glasses,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like nothing is gonna to change what I'm doing,

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<v Speaker 2>Like this is going to happen. What that nigga said

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<v Speaker 2>and uh, bloody and blood out American was one of

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<v Speaker 2>this is going to happen. Look at this is gonna happen,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, Because it's like I took

0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:16.520
<v Speaker 2>too much time, But it's crazy to watch how many

0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:19.240
<v Speaker 2>people just like clearing shit up with stretch like ship

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<v Speaker 2>that I didn't even know that he knew, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, and and being able to go to

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<v Speaker 2>him and work it out. I mean, what you think

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<v Speaker 2>like oh glass and not you could actually go straight

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<v Speaker 2>to iTunes. I didn't know that. So, like it was

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<v Speaker 2>just weird to hear, you know, my coach say that.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, man, I think sometimes you think you smarter

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<v Speaker 2>than everybody was like, Nah, I don't think so. I

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<v Speaker 2>think I'm not that smart at all. But what I

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<v Speaker 2>do think is I'm always persevering for what I want

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<v Speaker 2>to know.

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<v Speaker 3>Question. Did you ask him why he thought that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>His point was he felt that when somebody disagrees with me,

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<v Speaker 2>then and I like, if they agree with everything but

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<v Speaker 2>one point he talks about certain things.

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<v Speaker 1>But so.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, if you don't agree with me that Drake is

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<v Speaker 2>not hip hop, I wouldn't argue with you. Like you

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<v Speaker 2>can ask me why and I'll explain to you man

0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:19.480
<v Speaker 2>hip hop and street urban culture PERSONIFI through the arts

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<v Speaker 2>of elements like the Brothers in New York that created

0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:23.320
<v Speaker 2>said the elements. You know what I'm saying, But it's

0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:26.320
<v Speaker 2>the culture expressed through that. And I'm like, if you

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't raising it, then you don't know how to handle it, right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like if you don't know it, then you don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Quite get it.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you take it as part of like a

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<v Speaker 2>sample size, like right, it's like KFC is not soul

0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:42.840
<v Speaker 2>food based off Southern cuisine, Taco Bill is not Mexican food.

0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:47.000
<v Speaker 2>It's based off of Mexican cuisine. And I'm like, that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Pop it's pop culture, right, so I'll explain it hulture.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Drake is very much a pop culture phenomenon when

0:21:54.480 --> 0:21:59.000
<v Speaker 2>it comes to making records. He understands enough about Southern cuisine,

0:21:59.640 --> 0:22:03.879
<v Speaker 2>enough about West Coast cuisine, enough about me and West cuisine,

0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:08.240
<v Speaker 2>enough about East Coast cuisine, shit, enough about Afrobeach cuisine

0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:13.439
<v Speaker 2>to make a dish that's digestible for the masses. And

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<v Speaker 2>so I wouldn't argue with somebody about that, Like they

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<v Speaker 2>can ask me my point, here's my point. Then if

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<v Speaker 2>you try to convince me separately of my point and

0:22:24.119 --> 0:22:27.359
<v Speaker 2>you start presenting facts, then I'll present you facts. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean that I think I'm smarter. I formulated my

0:22:30.320 --> 0:22:33.639
<v Speaker 2>opinion based off of knowledge right now. It don't mean

0:22:33.680 --> 0:22:35.560
<v Speaker 2>you don't have knowledge, But then you have to present

0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:39.960
<v Speaker 2>your knowledge in the conversation. And let's be honest, most

0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:43.480
<v Speaker 2>people just don't have knowledge in that conversation, Like why

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't they know? I just wasn't arrogant enough to think

0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:49.400
<v Speaker 2>I knew hip hop when I made a million dollars

0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:50.960
<v Speaker 2>off hip hop and didn't think I knew what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm also somebody that realizes it's a lot of shit.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, So check this out, glasses. I was

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a substitute teacher as well. You know, I was

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<v Speaker 3>doing a thing called life in hip Hop one oh one.

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<v Speaker 3>I would break down the elements of each one and

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<v Speaker 3>then show them career paths that they can make money

0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:16.000
<v Speaker 3>off of hip hop. So we got the graffiti or

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<v Speaker 3>the artwork, right. I wanted to set a curriculum in

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<v Speaker 3>the school that they're doing hip hop as part of

0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:25.639
<v Speaker 3>their course. So like pe, you would have the dance

0:23:25.800 --> 0:23:28.359
<v Speaker 3>or the breakdance. Now we've just seen it in the Olympics, right,

0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:30.280
<v Speaker 3>and this I'm talking about. I was doing this in

0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:34.399
<v Speaker 3>six I came back to military oh five, so I

0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:38.440
<v Speaker 3>was doing this. No take that back. I was doing

0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:42.480
<v Speaker 3>this in eleven, twelve thirteen. I was out of Milpedis right.

0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:45.879
<v Speaker 3>But the whole thing was I would have them bring

0:23:45.880 --> 0:23:48.359
<v Speaker 3>in like their favorite song, and we would break it

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<v Speaker 3>down with the etymology of it. What does this word say? Right? Yeah?

0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:54.600
<v Speaker 3>Can we bring it cuse words blah blah blah snail,

0:23:54.640 --> 0:23:56.760
<v Speaker 3>mister sail we go, Yeah, bring it all in and

0:23:56.800 --> 0:23:59.000
<v Speaker 3>let's take it to the board and let's break it down.

0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:03.040
<v Speaker 3>What is this r that's really saying they Are they

0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:06.760
<v Speaker 3>in pain? Are they in celebratory mode? Are they Let's

0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:10.560
<v Speaker 3>break it down, what is the message behind this?

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<v Speaker 2>Like when I hear drill people, hear black people killing

0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:18.000
<v Speaker 2>each other, I hear soldiers kind of singing about their

0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:19.879
<v Speaker 2>experience and what they had to do to survive, yes,

0:24:20.040 --> 0:24:24.280
<v Speaker 2>or putting out a tunt to make people not try them,

0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:26.720
<v Speaker 2>like right, and I can just hear it. I don't

0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:28.919
<v Speaker 2>have to try, Like I don't hear a song like

0:24:28.960 --> 0:24:31.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't hear serial killer and hip hop people here

0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:32.679
<v Speaker 2>like Oh, I'm gonna kill this person. I'm gonna kill

0:24:32.680 --> 0:24:35.680
<v Speaker 2>that person, I hear, man, if you fuck with me,

0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:36.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna kill.

0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:38.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm scared for my life. How about let's get down

0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:42.240
<v Speaker 3>to a live or not live, life or death? Right?

0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:47.080
<v Speaker 3>It's like trauma and PTSD, Right, it's either fight or flight.

0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:51.600
<v Speaker 3>The motherfuckers that flight are trying to save their lives,

0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:54.440
<v Speaker 3>but they're still dealing with the trauma that was created

0:24:54.480 --> 0:24:57.040
<v Speaker 3>by that. So then when you come fight, what do

0:24:57.080 --> 0:24:59.960
<v Speaker 3>you do? You create more trauma either to the other

0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:06.000
<v Speaker 3>side to your side. So it's a non stop ball

0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:09.440
<v Speaker 3>of yarn that just keeps unraveling. Right, You just trauma.

0:25:09.840 --> 0:25:12.399
<v Speaker 3>That's what we're dealing with. And then also that's what

0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:15.120
<v Speaker 3>we're talking about on the podcast, right, it's about trauma

0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:20.520
<v Speaker 3>and grief. Why don't we know or why aren't we

0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:24.640
<v Speaker 3>taught that we don't know how to deal with trauma.

0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:27.359
<v Speaker 3>I've been dealing in therapy, going to therapy since I

0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:29.680
<v Speaker 3>came back from six where we had twenty years now.

0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:33.560
<v Speaker 3>I was the first cat I knew from the neighborhood

0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:36.320
<v Speaker 3>that sat down on the couch and said, but I'm

0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:40.920
<v Speaker 3>dealing with the inner city syndrome with military piled on top,

0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:45.040
<v Speaker 3>plus on this, plus on this. So what about the

0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:47.920
<v Speaker 3>cat that's out there in the street that's gang bang

0:25:47.960 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 3>and whatever side, right, that's hustling, that's doing whatever. What

0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:55.400
<v Speaker 3>about the females that got to navigate through this shit, right,

0:25:55.760 --> 0:25:59.000
<v Speaker 3>and then they get sexually assaulted or they get raped,

0:25:59.080 --> 0:26:02.080
<v Speaker 3>or they got people grow. So it's always some shit

0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:06.160
<v Speaker 3>that we not really privy to of other people's traumas,

0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:08.360
<v Speaker 3>and we're not taught. When I went to the military,

0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:11.000
<v Speaker 3>they gave us a little book about the sides of

0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:14.680
<v Speaker 3>a dollar bill, right, called the Smart Book. It teaches

0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:16.959
<v Speaker 3>you everything you need to know about the military, how

0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:19.160
<v Speaker 3>to break down your gun, how to clean it, how

0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:21.919
<v Speaker 3>to build a rucksack, how to pack this, how to

0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:25.159
<v Speaker 3>do that? Where's that book in life at man? Where's

0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:27.320
<v Speaker 3>that book in life on how to deal with Trump?

0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:30.159
<v Speaker 3>Where's the book or how to deal with grief? Because

0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:32.760
<v Speaker 3>grief is a big thing. Once somebody passed, we don't

0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:36.439
<v Speaker 3>know how to move on our transition. And if we

0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:38.439
<v Speaker 3>really think about it, let's break it down to some

0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:44.399
<v Speaker 3>metaphysical shit. We're balls of energy. Energy never dies, it

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:48.000
<v Speaker 3>just transfers forms. But we're not pumping that into it.

0:26:48.080 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 3>So it's okay to transition to the next format.

0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:54.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, facts, right, but I would like that's what I

0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:55.240
<v Speaker 2>hope the Bible does.

0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:57.040
<v Speaker 3>It does for certain people.

0:26:57.160 --> 0:26:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Most people can't get into it or they're being lent.

0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:02.800
<v Speaker 2>It could be used as a weapon, right, It could

0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:05.600
<v Speaker 2>be used as a weapon, And that's the thing I

0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:09.399
<v Speaker 2>don't like. So, yeah, that's what it's been. Yeah, I

0:27:09.400 --> 0:27:10.720
<v Speaker 2>read the Bible like, that's one of.

0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:11.439
<v Speaker 3>My favorite books.

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:15.960
<v Speaker 2>All the difference, What do you mean which Bible.

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:29.639
<v Speaker 1>First Edition? I'm just saying, like.

0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:29.399
<v Speaker 2>Well, again, that's all more literal, literary, literary device like language.

0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:33.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so it depends to Some people read

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:38.359
<v Speaker 2>the Bible as a history book. I read the Bible

0:27:38.359 --> 0:27:41.919
<v Speaker 2>as a wisdom book. I read the Bible ass to

0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:46.439
<v Speaker 2>connect with human experience beyond my own, to connect with

0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:49.960
<v Speaker 2>a spirit beyond my own, you know what I'm saying.

0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:53.360
<v Speaker 2>So it's like that's how I read the book. Some

0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 2>people it depends on anything else, Like again, like a

0:27:57.359 --> 0:28:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Bible could a gun, could be like a paperweight or

0:28:02.920 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 2>something to kill people. Right, So it's like, I don't

0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:09.320
<v Speaker 2>think I read the Bible a lot. It's one of

0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 2>the greatest sets of books I've ever read. It's really

0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:19.879
<v Speaker 2>really good, and some of the stories really just you

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 2>won't like it if you're not in a discipline.

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:25.399
<v Speaker 1>You won't even like any religion, if you know what

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying.

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:28.280
<v Speaker 2>If you But again, it's funny because it's not that

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 2>different from our lives because really, even the street life.

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:32.480
<v Speaker 3>Is all about discipline.

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:35.520
<v Speaker 1>Definitely. Like I saw man today he was on.

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:40.000
<v Speaker 2>I might have if I ever had respect for us,

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:42.200
<v Speaker 2>a man that was a snitch, That would have been

0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 2>the man he just told her. He's like, yeah, I

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:47.240
<v Speaker 2>couldn't do the time, he said. They they called me

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:49.520
<v Speaker 2>a damn red I was like, you're right. I was thinking,

0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:52.920
<v Speaker 2>like respect from y'all to mean or less time. And

0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 2>I didn't respect that part because I get it he

0:28:56.400 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 2>didn't quite understand what not telling us about. I'm not

0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:01.880
<v Speaker 2>really worried about nobody body else's opinion. I'm worried about

0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:05.440
<v Speaker 2>what I see in the mirror. So that's why I

0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 2>live my life. Why not tell I'm not worried about

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 2>what nobody else thinking me to that degree?

0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean?

0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Like if it's I'm worried about looking at myself in

0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:16.040
<v Speaker 2>the mirror, exactly, that's like.

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 3>The Bernie mac thing. You say, ooh ooh. The judge said,

0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 3>who is that? It's me, your honor. I saw that

0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 3>man shoot him in the head. I tried to call you,

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 3>but your line was busy, he said, who are you?

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:30.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm a punk. I'm telling on everything right. But once again,

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:33.800
<v Speaker 3>if you're not in that realm.

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 2>That's not telling.

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 3>That's not it. You're just a civilian in the classroom.

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:42.960
<v Speaker 3>I say, what is the stop snitching campaign? Y'all? I say,

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:46.800
<v Speaker 3>but if your grandmama's house gets robbed, that's not snitching.

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 2>You have to be involved in a crime like you

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 2>have to got part of this.

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:57.560
<v Speaker 3>But that's but the common agreement between between people doing

0:29:57.600 --> 0:29:58.280
<v Speaker 3>wrong right.

0:29:58.400 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 2>And this is kind of one of the things I

0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 2>about hip hop. And maybe I do have this tunnel

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:04.720
<v Speaker 2>vision with hip hop because it's like, you know, when

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 2>we start talking, I'm like, bro, you don't have nothing

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:11.480
<v Speaker 2>to do with this, Like stop using these words, right?

0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 2>Why you using these words like snitch? If you're not

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 2>a street guy, you shouldn't call anybody, you know what

0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:18.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean. You don't know what that means, Like you

0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 2>don't get what's happening. And the problem is people have

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:25.920
<v Speaker 2>digested so much music when we're talking about hip hop

0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:28.720
<v Speaker 2>that they really feel like they're part of the culture.

0:30:29.600 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 3>They live in it. What do you mean they're they're

0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:35.440
<v Speaker 3>living they they're from buck Toosa, Alabama. But but I

0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:39.880
<v Speaker 3>can go extream this glasses alone a CD. Except I

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:42.240
<v Speaker 3>am there. He's painting his picture for me.

0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 2>But you're not there.

0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:46.320
<v Speaker 1>You're there and not be the thing.

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 2>You know, like you're not And they talk to me

0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:51.880
<v Speaker 2>and you should see some of the stuff people say to.

0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Me, thinking to myself, like.

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:59.200
<v Speaker 3>Twinter comments back in the day, Remember they was banging

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 3>a little rock and we was on HBO, Like, what

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:05.000
<v Speaker 3>the hell are y'allish expected? You know how?

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:07.959
<v Speaker 2>I respect it because they was doing it so one thing.

0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 2>Play with the right play with y'all at all.

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 1>People in other states, definitely, but.

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 3>They got to prove something, you know what I'm saying, And.

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:21.120
<v Speaker 2>They already had their own problems just because they rebranded

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 2>it with Cripson Blood. Like people think Northern California Southern,

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 2>same ship, different brands.

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:30.480
<v Speaker 3>Different brand, different labels on this thing, everybody'll work wars

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 3>or you can call it bloods and cribs. Right, it's

0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 3>the same.

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 2>Thing, bro, It's just weird and you have to find

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 2>yourself arguing this. I'm like you would think the Bay

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 2>is the most peaceful place in the world.

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 3>The way they talk about like.

0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:49.040
<v Speaker 2>All of my craziest homies is from up top. All

0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 2>my craziest homies is from up to bro. The people

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 2>I met in the music the craziest people I met

0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:55.960
<v Speaker 2>in the music industry is up top. Feel me, and

0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 2>you'll be thinking yourself, you know.

0:31:58.200 --> 0:31:58.480
<v Speaker 1>What I mean.

0:31:58.760 --> 0:32:00.880
<v Speaker 2>That's why that's why I don't say nothing, because I'll

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 2>be thinking to myself, like, y'all really.

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Don't fucking know, ain't no cripping.

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:09.400
<v Speaker 2>It was a kid, dirty kid from Oakland. He helps

0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:11.440
<v Speaker 2>twenty one savage and he was talking to me like,

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:12.880
<v Speaker 2>we don't got no crypts in bloods?

0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Yes, y'all do? No, we don't. Yes, you do?

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:19.200
<v Speaker 2>What you think that mean? What do you think that means?

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:21.280
<v Speaker 2>You really think it's bloods and crips? Like the movie

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:23.360
<v Speaker 2>Colors say, like, it's a group of guys together and

0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 2>these bro they're all independent, functioning things and they fight

0:32:27.560 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 2>each other. It don't matter what their last name is.

0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 2>Just because it's Michael Jackson and Freddy Jackson, they're not related.

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:37.560
<v Speaker 1>We definitely got our hoods.

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:41.960
<v Speaker 3>Of course you do everywhere? Did every block the block

0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 3>going against? Yes, and they don't have.

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:47.280
<v Speaker 2>So it's weird to explain that to people because in

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:50.720
<v Speaker 2>their mind they like, wellrypt. It's like, bro, you're buying marketing.

0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 2>You're telling me what a white person told you. I

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 2>am a brother that is a crypt and I'm telling

0:32:55.080 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 2>you this is how it goes. But you're telling me

0:32:57.080 --> 0:32:59.360
<v Speaker 2>what the man that Dennis.

0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 1>Hopper told you.

0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:03.479
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, I watched Colors again yesterday and I

0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:06.960
<v Speaker 2>just thought it was so cute because that time.

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 3>But at that time they hit. We was in the

0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:12.840
<v Speaker 3>movie theater, like I'm like, every set was up in

0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 3>there trying to see, look what this is.

0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:18.360
<v Speaker 2>But it's funny because they be like, he's the crips,

0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 2>he's the blood, Like what nigga where which crips?

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:27.760
<v Speaker 3>Especially eight and eighty seven eighty eight, it was all

0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:30.680
<v Speaker 3>just one set of cribs, one set of blood.

0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 1>And that was so far dead.

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 3>But they had to make it though.

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 2>They had to make it digestible to white people. So

0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:40.840
<v Speaker 2>they was like the crypts, the bloods, and the Mexicans. Yes,

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:43.840
<v Speaker 2>And it was like and I get it because when

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:47.160
<v Speaker 2>you're telling the story, nuance is not your friend. Like

0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:49.640
<v Speaker 2>that's my problem as a storyteller, even in hip hop,

0:33:49.680 --> 0:33:52.680
<v Speaker 2>Like if I made Tupac Must Die, I got way

0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 2>too much nuance. But I'm expressing the nuance. Here's the

0:33:56.760 --> 0:33:59.479
<v Speaker 2>here's the development of here's the thought behind it. This

0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:01.680
<v Speaker 2>is the like, even when you listen to the song

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:04.840
<v Speaker 2>and I'm rapping, I'm telling you how messed up this

0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:08.480
<v Speaker 2>nigga mine was. I'm telling you his emotions of how

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:10.400
<v Speaker 2>much they even liked this nigga as a rapper and

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:14.000
<v Speaker 2>how this was hurting them because that's how I tell that.

0:34:14.160 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 3>This is what I got to do. He's he's compelled

0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 3>to do this by his his his What's what I'm

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Speaker 3>looking for? His being part of something his you know.

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:29.120
<v Speaker 1>And it's just really this level.

0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:31.839
<v Speaker 2>Of poverty that we have that makes our reputation our

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:35.399
<v Speaker 2>greatest asset. That is everything. That's how we earn, that's

0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:38.920
<v Speaker 2>how we get laid, it's how we get respect. Everything

0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 2>comes from reputation, so we have to protect it ridiculously.

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:45.320
<v Speaker 2>Like somebody said, well you think I Pak would have

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:48.399
<v Speaker 2>got jumped if POC would have if somebody jump somebody,

0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:50.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm like Nigga A would.

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:53.359
<v Speaker 3>Have blew his head off. But here's the piece that

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 3>I look at you on that piece, right, and that

0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:58.960
<v Speaker 3>was a brilliant song by the way that she was hellodope, right,

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:03.439
<v Speaker 3>But look at it like this, Who was watching out

0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 3>for that man to keep him? If that he's the money,

0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:09.640
<v Speaker 3>why aren't they keeping him away from that?

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:10.279
<v Speaker 4>Well?

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:11.719
<v Speaker 3>This em.

0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:16.520
<v Speaker 2>So this is the question I always had with Pops, right,

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:20.960
<v Speaker 2>because it's like, so what the critique I do have

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:23.759
<v Speaker 2>a gag banging and pop shugar right, and this is

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:27.360
<v Speaker 2>all gang members is it's too invited it's too open.

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:30.800
<v Speaker 2>That's like people want me to critique somebody like Tupac

0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:33.440
<v Speaker 2>oh Man, Tupac wanted to be this who wouldn't want

0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:34.080
<v Speaker 2>to come be a.

0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Part of this camaraderie.

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:39.279
<v Speaker 3>Everybody's trying to what they had care Evans coming from

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:41.520
<v Speaker 3>Frisco all the way down to.

0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:44.480
<v Speaker 2>You are locked in jail. You're locked in jail with

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:49.759
<v Speaker 2>a double platinum album, a couple of films with nobody

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:50.920
<v Speaker 2>getting you out of jail?

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:52.799
<v Speaker 3>Where's single single?

0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:55.879
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, Nobody getting you out of jail.

0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:59.439
<v Speaker 2>You're in jail, a double platinum album, number one album

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:02.000
<v Speaker 2>in the country, hit smashes you. You've been a part

0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 2>of the hit records, shot got you killing you, figured

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:07.920
<v Speaker 2>it out, you got your ship, you talented, beyond you

0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 2>is the man, and niggas won't even bail you out.

0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 1>And then this motherfucker comes who's doing well?

0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:25.759
<v Speaker 3>He did what to you? Where he at?

0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:29.960
<v Speaker 2>That's why people people want me to get mad or

0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:33.480
<v Speaker 2>say I'm like, no, y'all got to just explaining the

0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:35.960
<v Speaker 2>story to you. I'm not one of the people that

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:37.759
<v Speaker 2>felt like pop did something wrong.

0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 3>Wait, wait, but he was in jail trying to get out.

0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:44.640
<v Speaker 2>And they like, he wrote his contract on a piece

0:36:44.680 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 2>of paper and they come get him out.

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:49.759
<v Speaker 3>Big, Hold what you need.

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:53.239
<v Speaker 2>Not only do they come get him out, they give

0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:54.720
<v Speaker 2>him his greatest success.

0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Fuck just getting out.

0:36:57.239 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 2>He get a number one record in the country, everybody

0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:03.440
<v Speaker 2>giving a the beats the best song right here. Man here,

0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:06.400
<v Speaker 2>you got one hundred thousand dollars a month. You like

0:37:07.239 --> 0:37:10.799
<v Speaker 2>what I am? All out, nigga. This is the mob

0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:12.560
<v Speaker 2>every day.

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:15.200
<v Speaker 3>Wait, just what we're doing. This is when we all

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:19.960
<v Speaker 3>y'all don't know what to do. We did what he

0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:23.600
<v Speaker 3>at the mall. Let me know he knew the assignment

0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:25.560
<v Speaker 3>and body. And that's why I respect.

0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:28.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't got nothing to say, Like, I don't got

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:29.000
<v Speaker 2>nothing to say.

0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:31.279
<v Speaker 3>If you live your life, how you gonna live it?

0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:34.920
<v Speaker 1>But I ain't got nothing to say. Bro, that man

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 1>took off.

0:37:35.800 --> 0:37:41.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, hold up, he did what he did? Yeah,

0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:43.799
<v Speaker 3>they following him.

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:50.120
<v Speaker 2>Why would you not? So my thing becomes like I

0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:52.320
<v Speaker 2>don't I'm not. I wouldn't be upset with somebody trying

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:54.279
<v Speaker 2>to be a part of it. I get why look

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:54.880
<v Speaker 2>at that.

0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 3>The lord, the lord of it?

0:37:57.160 --> 0:38:01.640
<v Speaker 2>Huh you inherit a army off top arm a way

0:38:01.760 --> 0:38:05.000
<v Speaker 2>but now he talking about what's his name over there,

0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:07.520
<v Speaker 2>a hitchman and them talking about you get your money together,

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 2>you want.

0:38:07.960 --> 0:38:09.719
<v Speaker 3>To go to war. Now we're up this.

0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:12.120
<v Speaker 1>I got troopers, okay, you want it?

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:13.120
<v Speaker 3>And we paid.

0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:18.719
<v Speaker 2>So again it's like I couldn't be hyper critical.

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:21.560
<v Speaker 3>And the assignment. Also, you're the mouth of this thing.

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:25.360
<v Speaker 2>Your voice then you already read for Remember he was

0:38:25.400 --> 0:38:28.680
<v Speaker 2>like even Pak was such a different star bro Like

0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:31.160
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't like dogging them dogging. It was like natural

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:32.600
<v Speaker 2>talents who had dre to.

0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:35.960
<v Speaker 3>School the music he's trained. This mother was preparing for

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:44.040
<v Speaker 3>the moment theatrically, you know this nigga is like he's

0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:47.400
<v Speaker 3>forty right right right with this niggas like Malcolm X.

0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:51.919
<v Speaker 2>Snoop like yeah, cause like it's Snoop is like a kid.

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:53.680
<v Speaker 2>This nigga like a fifty year.

0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:56.719
<v Speaker 3>Old man aren't read and and trip this They were

0:38:56.800 --> 0:38:59.040
<v Speaker 3>what a year apart when it came out podcast a

0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:02.120
<v Speaker 3>year younger than I think seventy one, seventy two, seventy one.

0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:06.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm seventy right, So just look at where Snoop was

0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:09.840
<v Speaker 3>and Pac was as far as they tard, but.

0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Just hit where.

0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:17.080
<v Speaker 2>Pac was at now now, yes, I don't, because that's

0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 2>normally how it happens, Like, could you be on pack

0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:25.880
<v Speaker 2>was prepared for the moment. I mean, pac was already

0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:27.960
<v Speaker 2>bread for the moment. But that be the point where

0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:30.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to tell people hug and I'm like, like,

0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:32.759
<v Speaker 2>so people are argue that, I'm like, this is not

0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 2>really an arguing point. We're not having a debate, Like,

0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:38.320
<v Speaker 2>listen to what I'm saying to you, like, oh, guess

0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:40.120
<v Speaker 2>you just saying that because he wanted to be a

0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:44.000
<v Speaker 2>blood and this I'm like, they bailed him out of jail.

0:39:44.040 --> 0:39:46.319
<v Speaker 3>I understand the loyalty aspect of it.

0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:50.920
<v Speaker 2>Right, He's still a poor give a fuck where he

0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:53.399
<v Speaker 2>was at. He's a poor negro. I don't care which

0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:54.880
<v Speaker 2>one of them grade schools he went to. He's a

0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:57.200
<v Speaker 2>poor negro. I don't care when he moved to the Bay.

0:39:57.440 --> 0:39:59.120
<v Speaker 2>He's a poor negro. When he came to La he.

0:39:59.080 --> 0:39:59.880
<v Speaker 3>Had a little dollars.

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:00.759
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't rich.

0:40:00.840 --> 0:40:04.840
<v Speaker 2>So all this experience and it's like, wait a minute,

0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:09.040
<v Speaker 2>nobody gets him out of jail. You come get me

0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:12.440
<v Speaker 2>out of jail, you pay sug and Sugar is probably

0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:14.440
<v Speaker 2>one of the greatest execs in the history of black music.

0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:18.000
<v Speaker 2>He paid as hard as he made, Like Snoop, Snooper

0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:19.719
<v Speaker 2>say that he's the reason I'm out of prison, right,

0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:22.200
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? Like he went all out

0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:24.319
<v Speaker 2>for dudes, So he paid for all these dudes. You

0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:28.120
<v Speaker 2>give me my greatest success, my greatest success.

0:40:28.360 --> 0:40:30.920
<v Speaker 3>But even when he win got Mary, Jay and Joe

0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:33.800
<v Speaker 3>to seeing them out, they fucked up deals and start

0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:36.520
<v Speaker 3>getting they making sure they getting their payment and they publishing,

0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:38.080
<v Speaker 3>and everybody like, oh, we're fucking with.

0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:41.279
<v Speaker 2>You should But as soon as shits, soon as it

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:44.880
<v Speaker 2>hit the fan, you start to really see that everybody

0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:47.479
<v Speaker 2>align themselves with where they think the money is versus

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:50.200
<v Speaker 2>aligning themselfs where the soul is. And that's the one

0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:52.759
<v Speaker 2>thing I respect about Pack. He didn't really, That's why

0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:54.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't get So I get it, and I can

0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 2>explain LA's perspective or the street urban perspective of West

0:40:57.600 --> 0:41:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Coast people at that time. But I'm not saying I thought.

0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:00.759
<v Speaker 3>He was wrong.

0:41:01.600 --> 0:41:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Shit he did with any motherfucking what.

0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:07.520
<v Speaker 2>You get me out of prison, You give me the

0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:09.319
<v Speaker 2>number one album in the world, You give me a

0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:11.800
<v Speaker 2>number one single, which that really ain't even happening. It

0:41:13.200 --> 0:41:16.640
<v Speaker 2>that's not even happening with hip hop, like Vanilla Ice,

0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:19.080
<v Speaker 2>maybe a couple of them. Like I don't know how

0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:21.759
<v Speaker 2>many number one records was pre nineteen ninety six when

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:25.359
<v Speaker 2>it came to hip hop, that was the Billboard Hot

0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:28.920
<v Speaker 2>one hundred. You know, California Love is for sure the

0:41:28.960 --> 0:41:33.399
<v Speaker 2>West Coast first number one, that's for sure.

0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:34.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't think.

0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:37.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't think the Looney that I got five when

0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:38.799
<v Speaker 2>it came out, but I don't think it went number one.

0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:42.279
<v Speaker 2>Jen and Juice gen thing was number two. Jen and

0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:45.720
<v Speaker 2>Juice was like six, like it ain't like Hammer didn't

0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:46.920
<v Speaker 2>have no number one.

0:41:48.840 --> 0:41:52.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to think, Jim, I'm trying to think, you know.

0:41:52.320 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying. I need to think.

0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:57.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking a little bit. But I remember studying these numbers,

0:41:57.280 --> 0:41:59.480
<v Speaker 2>so I'm panning through them. I'm thinking of Ice Tea,

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:02.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking of Digital Underground, I'm thinking of Easy, I'm

0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:04.879
<v Speaker 2>thinking of all these people, and it's like, you give

0:42:04.960 --> 0:42:08.799
<v Speaker 2>me all of this people talking about Shug beat him.

0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:10.360
<v Speaker 2>They didn't even make it to a pay side A

0:42:10.400 --> 0:42:12.080
<v Speaker 2>nigga died before the pace cycle.

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Right, he ain't even making the whole month, you know,

0:42:15.719 --> 0:42:18.600
<v Speaker 1>six months motherfucker this. I don't come out of fair

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:19.400
<v Speaker 1>with fourteenth.

0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:24.160
<v Speaker 3>He died September, September, the whole.

0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:28.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I'm tripping, you know what I'm saying. So

0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:32.399
<v Speaker 2>I get why you have that type of tunnel vision

0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:34.120
<v Speaker 2>like them dudes. You know what I'm saying, Like, I

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:37.359
<v Speaker 2>get why, I get why, I get why he did

0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 2>what he did. I'm I'm the ship. I'm the last

0:42:40.200 --> 0:42:42.880
<v Speaker 2>person to critigue you. I was ready to do a

0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:44.560
<v Speaker 2>lot less for stunner Man, and that I was ready

0:42:44.600 --> 0:42:46.120
<v Speaker 2>to do a lot more for stunner Man than them,

0:42:46.120 --> 0:42:47.920
<v Speaker 2>and that I didn't have the number one song in

0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:49.880
<v Speaker 2>the country, they didn't have to bail me out of prison.

0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:53.680
<v Speaker 2>I was ready to body somebody for these dudes. So

0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:59.080
<v Speaker 2>it's like just trying to get That's why I'm really

0:42:59.440 --> 0:43:02.120
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, I'm really very critic.

0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:02.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm really.

0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:07.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm kicked back on us because I get what we're fighting, right,

0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:11.799
<v Speaker 2>I get a lot of things we're fighting. I get it,

0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:13.880
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. I kicked back on us

0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:17.200
<v Speaker 2>because I feel like, so, you know, like we go

0:43:17.360 --> 0:43:19.920
<v Speaker 2>through a lot, Like I'm looking at somebody like po's life, Like,

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:22.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you want films, all these number one albums,

0:43:22.760 --> 0:43:24.680
<v Speaker 2>playing the albums, and you can't get out of jail,

0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:28.160
<v Speaker 2>right right, that's shit crazy.

0:43:28.360 --> 0:43:32.120
<v Speaker 3>Wait wait, you can't get pardoned. Who named some of

0:43:32.120 --> 0:43:35.879
<v Speaker 3>the people got pardoned by the president. But what I'm saying, look,

0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:38.000
<v Speaker 3>think of think of the last twenty years. Who done

0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:41.080
<v Speaker 3>got partnered by the president? Right? He didn't partner some

0:43:41.120 --> 0:43:44.920
<v Speaker 3>folks that just you know, they cronies and Bible. He

0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:49.080
<v Speaker 3>wasn't part of the he was. That's when the hip

0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:51.200
<v Speaker 3>hop police and all that shit was out and the

0:43:51.239 --> 0:43:55.480
<v Speaker 3>whole it's basically coin tail Pro two point zero. Yeah,

0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:58.319
<v Speaker 3>can you understand what I'm saying. And that's what this

0:43:58.360 --> 0:44:01.440
<v Speaker 3>has led to with the Puff things from that Cointail Pro,

0:44:02.960 --> 0:44:04.120
<v Speaker 3>same same goodd.

0:44:04.120 --> 0:44:06.759
<v Speaker 2>Even that for them to convince the general public of

0:44:06.800 --> 0:44:10.200
<v Speaker 2>black people like Puff is like this mafia bass and

0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:13.200
<v Speaker 2>you got this criminal syndicate. It's just such a lazy

0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:18.880
<v Speaker 2>use of law, such a la it's not it's actually

0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:19.799
<v Speaker 2>brilliant on their part.

0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:23.120
<v Speaker 1>It's lazy on us. How we stand up for you?

0:44:23.320 --> 0:44:25.919
<v Speaker 3>Check this out. Take the flip side. Eli must say

0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:28.719
<v Speaker 3>he found out all this stuff. People like, nah, I

0:44:28.760 --> 0:44:31.319
<v Speaker 3>ain't fucking no, this is crazy. No, that's right now,

0:44:31.680 --> 0:44:34.840
<v Speaker 3>he's only man, I found this money, missing this money.

0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:37.640
<v Speaker 3>People are dead for the how very many years and

0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:40.560
<v Speaker 3>even killing or tell me the government is doing that,

0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:44.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, Elon, he liked that. El Man, that's bullshit.

0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:47.080
<v Speaker 3>They ain't doing that, man, they ain't doing that. If

0:44:47.120 --> 0:44:49.359
<v Speaker 3>that was true, the government is shut down.

0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:54.600
<v Speaker 3>Wait wait, I go into a position and I make

0:44:54.640 --> 0:44:57.640
<v Speaker 3>one hundred and forty thousand and when I get out

0:44:57.880 --> 0:45:01.920
<v Speaker 3>and by two four eight six, that's the greatest return

0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:05.600
<v Speaker 3>on investment ever. Right there, you're five to ten twenty

0:45:05.680 --> 0:45:09.760
<v Speaker 3>million to the good with four plexus twelve plexus.

0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:16.040
<v Speaker 2>Human beings argue with that motherfucker about what he's discovering,

0:45:16.200 --> 0:45:19.279
<v Speaker 2>right like this motherfucker don't got to do the job.

0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:22.960
<v Speaker 2>It's another thing about that orange motherfucker. Man, I got

0:45:22.960 --> 0:45:26.200
<v Speaker 2>to I always pay attention. I'll be looking behind the clothes.

0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:29.080
<v Speaker 2>But once again, follow the money. Another motherfucker, the money,

0:45:29.200 --> 0:45:32.600
<v Speaker 2>Another motherfucker. Where you gotta be like because again man,

0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:36.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Man, I don't know.

0:45:36.680 --> 0:45:39.239
<v Speaker 3>But he's learned the power of media too once he

0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:42.919
<v Speaker 3>did that show and saw the power. Because here's here's

0:45:42.920 --> 0:45:45.960
<v Speaker 3>the rule of thumb and media right. First person says

0:45:45.960 --> 0:45:49.640
<v Speaker 3>it is the winner or the is right. Now you

0:45:49.680 --> 0:45:52.279
<v Speaker 3>have to either prove it or discredit it. But the

0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:55.600
<v Speaker 3>first person that says it, they get the platform. So

0:45:55.680 --> 0:45:59.000
<v Speaker 3>when he had that show, he understood the power and

0:45:59.040 --> 0:46:01.800
<v Speaker 3>I can cut people off and shut up and you're fired.

0:46:02.280 --> 0:46:06.520
<v Speaker 1>He's like, this ship works, this work. Remember he was

0:46:06.560 --> 0:46:08.880
<v Speaker 1>on what do you think if you run for Persson?

0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:13.680
<v Speaker 2>He was on Oprah and Republican the motherfuckers like, but

0:46:13.719 --> 0:46:16.400
<v Speaker 2>he was he So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>So the media, the fame, maybe the you know, because

0:46:20.800 --> 0:46:24.440
<v Speaker 3>he was already famous if Tyson and everybody wanted to

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:26.320
<v Speaker 3>go to Tyson to his fights.

0:46:26.520 --> 0:46:27.960
<v Speaker 1>I think his thing was power.

0:46:28.440 --> 0:46:30.400
<v Speaker 2>So I think a lot of those like he was

0:46:30.520 --> 0:46:33.279
<v Speaker 2>his family came from money but not power. And I

0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:36.480
<v Speaker 2>think he just repaired the esteem and the power of

0:46:36.520 --> 0:46:38.160
<v Speaker 2>his family you never had that.

0:46:38.160 --> 0:46:38.759
<v Speaker 3>That makes sense.

0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:42.359
<v Speaker 2>And Elon is a motherfucker who don't. Elon don't really need,

0:46:42.480 --> 0:46:44.359
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm working on getting him on the pile, right,

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:49.040
<v Speaker 2>and it's like he doesn't need, Like that's the type

0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:52.040
<v Speaker 2>of motherfucker I'll probably be really paying attention to because

0:46:52.160 --> 0:46:55.399
<v Speaker 2>he don't need, don't right, I mean, he's not trying

0:46:55.400 --> 0:46:58.960
<v Speaker 2>to change. He got different kind of money. This motherfucker

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:01.959
<v Speaker 2>got money all that. So what he be saying, should

0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:03.520
<v Speaker 2>I be missed? I'm like, what do you say? Because

0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:05.759
<v Speaker 2>I really think he is fine and the shit he

0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:06.759
<v Speaker 2>said he's fine.

0:47:06.640 --> 0:47:11.160
<v Speaker 3>Yes, pulls his whole team in and go through this

0:47:11.800 --> 0:47:19.160
<v Speaker 3>with a microscope, right, m hmm. But once again, nobody

0:47:19.200 --> 0:47:22.960
<v Speaker 3>wants to believe that the big bad government is up

0:47:23.000 --> 0:47:24.040
<v Speaker 3>to no good, which.

0:47:23.960 --> 0:47:26.360
<v Speaker 2>Is crazy because we know the big bad government is

0:47:26.400 --> 0:47:27.120
<v Speaker 2>up to no good.

0:47:27.360 --> 0:47:32.160
<v Speaker 3>But once again, it's the brainwash that's been instilled over time.

0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:37.080
<v Speaker 3>We have all these these laws that we've been brainwashed.

0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:40.360
<v Speaker 3>The same example. You take a dog to the store

0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:43.920
<v Speaker 3>a hundred times every day, boom pot tied around the

0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:46.680
<v Speaker 3>damn pole. He gonna sit there till you come back out.

0:47:47.160 --> 0:47:48.919
<v Speaker 3>Get to the point it's one hundred and one times.

0:47:49.000 --> 0:47:50.560
<v Speaker 3>You just go to the thing and drop the leash

0:47:50.600 --> 0:47:53.799
<v Speaker 3>and the dog gonna stay there. So these regulatory laws,

0:47:53.880 --> 0:47:56.920
<v Speaker 3>with the stop sign, with this, with that, it's been

0:47:56.960 --> 0:47:59.680
<v Speaker 3>built up to the point. This is what it is.

0:48:00.200 --> 0:48:03.320
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna fall into place. We're gonna believe that big

0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:06.759
<v Speaker 3>Uncle Sam, this thing wants you. Uncle Sam wants you.

0:48:06.920 --> 0:48:10.719
<v Speaker 3>This is your friend. Once what do they do in

0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:12.680
<v Speaker 3>the seventies, They got the men out the house from

0:48:12.719 --> 0:48:16.040
<v Speaker 3>the women. You can, we'll give you these subsidies and

0:48:16.160 --> 0:48:19.080
<v Speaker 3>need this help. But the man can't be here, Fames,

0:48:19.480 --> 0:48:21.279
<v Speaker 3>Why can't the man be here? We can help and

0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:23.919
<v Speaker 3>block by help both of us, this one or the other.

0:48:24.080 --> 0:48:26.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but this will help, Like, this will help us

0:48:26.160 --> 0:48:28.080
<v Speaker 2>get together and get it cracking faster.

0:48:29.239 --> 0:48:31.719
<v Speaker 3>It's part of the thing. So once again, why do

0:48:31.800 --> 0:48:35.200
<v Speaker 3>we think big bad government is out to help us?

0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:37.640
<v Speaker 2>But again it go back into that conversation the media

0:48:37.719 --> 0:48:40.520
<v Speaker 2>being able to really pollute the minds, right like, so

0:48:40.640 --> 0:48:44.160
<v Speaker 2>now we like we want a mother, like I said,

0:48:44.160 --> 0:48:47.360
<v Speaker 2>a motherfucker that's been a black celebrity my whole you know, younger,

0:48:47.560 --> 0:48:49.920
<v Speaker 2>my whole young life. Trump being a black celebrity, my

0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:50.399
<v Speaker 2>whole young.

0:48:50.400 --> 0:48:52.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, every we was talking about Trump.

0:48:52.480 --> 0:48:54.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they used to love to Yeah fucking crack. So

0:48:55.600 --> 0:48:57.680
<v Speaker 2>it's one of them things where it's like, you know,

0:48:58.160 --> 0:49:00.160
<v Speaker 2>I get it. But that's how I'm saying now, Like

0:49:00.560 --> 0:49:03.480
<v Speaker 2>when I see certain things like with a Puff, like

0:49:03.480 --> 0:49:05.160
<v Speaker 2>don't gonna be wrong. I think Puff got his own

0:49:05.160 --> 0:49:10.160
<v Speaker 2>sexual devian issues, but it shouldn't get him life. What

0:49:10.239 --> 0:49:12.200
<v Speaker 2>is he fighting five or ten years like R Kelly

0:49:12.200 --> 0:49:14.279
<v Speaker 2>saying thing R Kelly should have been seven to fifteen years.

0:49:14.600 --> 0:49:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Why is it thirty five years? How is this happening?

0:49:17.360 --> 0:49:20.399
<v Speaker 1>And we're not saying nothing, kill somebody much time?

0:49:20.760 --> 0:49:24.399
<v Speaker 2>Sammy the Bull killed thirty motherfuckers himself and got less time.

0:49:24.440 --> 0:49:25.640
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't.

0:49:25.840 --> 0:49:27.880
<v Speaker 3>But that's my point, that's what it's based on. The

0:49:28.000 --> 0:49:31.239
<v Speaker 3>RICO was brought in for that then those type of things, right,

0:49:31.880 --> 0:49:34.080
<v Speaker 3>and he said, I'm gonna turn states out ofdence and

0:49:34.120 --> 0:49:37.799
<v Speaker 3>by and you get less time for a cat. But

0:49:38.440 --> 0:49:41.200
<v Speaker 3>so they so basically what so they're not telling them.

0:49:41.560 --> 0:49:42.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, you.

0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:44.840
<v Speaker 3>See what I'm saying. So Sammy the Bull tells and

0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:45.560
<v Speaker 3>he gets up.

0:49:45.680 --> 0:49:47.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's nobody r Kelly a puff could.

0:49:47.719 --> 0:49:50.359
<v Speaker 3>Tell on because they were going after them that.

0:49:50.360 --> 0:49:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they wanted them.

0:49:51.760 --> 0:49:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Again, I think the DA's job, a smart deputy attorney

0:49:57.040 --> 0:49:59.960
<v Speaker 2>prosecutor is trying to raise profile by going at the

0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:02.919
<v Speaker 2>high profile crimes, even if you have to make it

0:50:03.040 --> 0:50:05.520
<v Speaker 2>so they didn't have to make the crimes were helping them, right,

0:50:05.560 --> 0:50:07.319
<v Speaker 2>So if you talk about r Kelly, they made the

0:50:07.400 --> 0:50:11.200
<v Speaker 2>sisters made that television show, even though that television show

0:50:11.280 --> 0:50:14.080
<v Speaker 2>is kind of long and really nothing's happening, but it

0:50:14.160 --> 0:50:17.160
<v Speaker 2>was so captivating that they was like, Oh that's good.

0:50:17.560 --> 0:50:21.200
<v Speaker 2>That's high profile. So some prosecutors saw that and was like, oh,

0:50:21.200 --> 0:50:24.200
<v Speaker 2>this could change my shit. Same with Diddy that it

0:50:24.320 --> 0:50:26.839
<v Speaker 2>started with Diddy with that the Cassie. Following a minute,

0:50:26.840 --> 0:50:29.200
<v Speaker 2>they start reading through the depot that was fouled before

0:50:29.239 --> 0:50:31.759
<v Speaker 2>he paid. It was like, oh, y'all can make this work.

0:50:32.080 --> 0:50:36.680
<v Speaker 2>The cases be trash. Yeah, they knew, and they flipped

0:50:36.680 --> 0:50:38.560
<v Speaker 2>through them. They're like, oh, we can make this work.

0:50:38.640 --> 0:50:39.440
<v Speaker 1>They get what they.

0:50:39.360 --> 0:50:42.319
<v Speaker 2>Team and they're like, and I don't even think it's

0:50:42.360 --> 0:50:45.359
<v Speaker 2>necessarily want to take that back.

0:50:45.360 --> 0:50:46.280
<v Speaker 1>It's always racism.

0:50:46.680 --> 0:50:48.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's the center point of it. I

0:50:48.520 --> 0:50:51.479
<v Speaker 2>think it'd be personal goals to raise their own profiles. Yes,

0:50:51.520 --> 0:50:54.360
<v Speaker 2>and it's like it's even better that they're black and

0:50:54.400 --> 0:50:58.560
<v Speaker 2>they're rich. But guess what, you take Diddy down right, Diddy,

0:50:59.239 --> 0:51:02.680
<v Speaker 2>and we're not thinking that we have people really that

0:51:02.880 --> 0:51:06.640
<v Speaker 2>are closer to the park that's in America, but we

0:51:06.760 --> 0:51:09.400
<v Speaker 2>we just stuck and now we look stupid, and everybody

0:51:09.600 --> 0:51:14.880
<v Speaker 2>just going right, they're just going and it's like, so

0:51:14.920 --> 0:51:17.719
<v Speaker 2>I guess the tunnel vision. I'm happy with where how

0:51:17.760 --> 0:51:20.680
<v Speaker 2>I see things. I'm happy with seeing what wanting to

0:51:20.719 --> 0:51:23.319
<v Speaker 2>defend poor black people, wanting to defend hip hop. I'm

0:51:23.360 --> 0:51:27.320
<v Speaker 2>actually fulfilled, like I found my place, you know what

0:51:27.320 --> 0:51:31.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying in life. So I don't listen to anybody

0:51:31.640 --> 0:51:33.560
<v Speaker 2>you could tell you could pass information. I'm going to

0:51:33.640 --> 0:51:35.239
<v Speaker 2>take the information you give me and make the most

0:51:35.280 --> 0:51:37.680
<v Speaker 2>out of it different things, even with my record label

0:51:38.040 --> 0:51:40.839
<v Speaker 2>putting people through creating a scholarship to putting people through school,

0:51:40.840 --> 0:51:42.440
<v Speaker 2>because you just told me that, so I'm all in

0:51:42.520 --> 0:51:45.880
<v Speaker 2>for that. What you're not gonna do is convinced me

0:51:46.320 --> 0:51:48.680
<v Speaker 2>that poor black people are to blame, and it's because

0:51:48.680 --> 0:51:50.719
<v Speaker 2>they're not. It's like math, It's like, you're not gonna

0:51:50.719 --> 0:51:54.040
<v Speaker 2>convince me one plus one equal seven. Gotta ask some

0:51:54.120 --> 0:51:56.640
<v Speaker 2>variables in there. You have some other things you're just

0:51:56.719 --> 0:52:00.399
<v Speaker 2>not so I'm happy. I'm happy with my no vision

0:52:00.440 --> 0:52:02.880
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to that type of shit. I'm just happy.

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<v Speaker 3>Bro. That's what's up.

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<v Speaker 2>Good looking out for tuning in to the Note Sellers podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.