1 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, Bobby here, Dirk Bentley turns forty eight years 2 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: old today. Been a friend for a long time, really 3 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: one of the good guys in music in Nashville in 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: the arts. Like just a solid, solid, solid dude. And 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: we wanted to look back because it's his birthday to 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: when he stopped by back in twenty seventeen. Now, man, 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: that feels like just yesterday, but at the same time, 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 1: it was six years ago. He had just come off 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: of weekend shows. He was a little tired, obviously, but 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: he was right in that spot that you're very generous 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: with your stories, you're feeling a little vulnerable, and it 12 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: was awesome. And so we talked to Derek's about his 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: biggest hits and grinding for many years to get to 14 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: the top, and also how he felt not winning the 15 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: ACM for Album of the Year that year. So we're 16 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: talking about hundreds of episodes back, but this is like 17 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: the definitive Dirk's Bentley episode. I don't want you to 18 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: hear it. Happy Birthday, Dirk's. Here's episode fifty four from 19 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: back in the day. In case you missed it on 20 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: the Bobby Cast. Here you go, all right, welcome to 21 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: episode fIF four The Bobbycast, Derek Spentley, we're having my 22 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: theme song y'abby bone from the radio. 23 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 2: He's got it. 24 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: No, that was where TV show the whole different thing. 25 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: We still have that. We're still out there. 26 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: It's still your podcast. 27 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: Was like, where's my But that was Derek's wrote a 28 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: song for a TV pilot that we're still in the 29 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: middle of. And so I was like, hey, and so 30 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: you made a song but it still exists, just nobody's 31 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: heard it yet because they're not. We're on lockdown with 32 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: that thing until July because he had an it's sun 33 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: of contract where nobody can see or hear anything until Joe. 34 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: Fun It was me and some of the guys of 35 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: the band Dan whole cult for play Real kind of 36 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: came up a little theme song for you, but hopefully 37 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: I'll hear that. 38 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: One day, I was talking to someone that Sarah at CMA, 39 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: and she was talking about how you guys used to 40 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: work at Nashville Network together. So this is what we 41 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: were just talking before my stand up show on Saturday night. 42 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: Congratulations by the way, Yeah yeah yeah, And she was 43 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: like hey, she was like, he's Dirk's coming, and I 44 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: was like, no, I think Dark's on the road. I 45 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: guess everybody assumes if I'm in town, you're gonna come 46 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: to the show. She was like, hey's Dirk's coming. I 47 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: was like, he is not. I would He's not coming, 48 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: He's he's on the road. And she said, you know, 49 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: Dirk's used to I knew you were used to work 50 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 1: in Nashville Network. But she was like, you know, he 51 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: used to leave CDs on everybody's chairs all the time, 52 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: like you would. He would leave and he would just 53 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: leave music on everybody's chairs that we would all have 54 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: it and hear it. Was that to get people to 55 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: actually hear the music or was that because you like 56 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: them as friends and he wanted to hear your music. 57 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: No, that was me trying to get it, you know, 58 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: just opening every door possible. And I definitely wanted to 59 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 2: hear it, but I was trying to get something going 60 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: and not really in a desperate way, just like you know, 61 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: I was working on music and the Yeah, Sarah, anyone 62 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: I thought could like be of help with like you know, 63 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 2: of hearing that and help me maybe put in someone's 64 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 2: hands or getta get kicked down a door. It was 65 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: the point, but I can't believe she remembers that. Yeah, 66 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: we worked at TEENA and the building's gone where we 67 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 2: used to work as a cross street from Coppery House, 68 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 2: And it was when Tina and cm T were gonna 69 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: all packed together, and I was just doing anything I 70 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: could at that point, you know, recording songs. I was 71 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 2: playing downtown on the Ord Broadway. I was writing at 72 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: uh you know as Cap and the little writer's room 73 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: they have upstairs for they're out anyone to write in. 74 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 2: So it's just kind of a thing and just shotgun 75 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: blast of putting much stuff out there and see them 76 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: would stick. And I'm sorry but my voice, by the way, 77 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 2: but I just did three shows in a row and 78 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: travel back today from South Dakota, and my voice is 79 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: a little fried. 80 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: Do you when you travel, you always fly back? You 81 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: always fall your own plane back. 82 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 2: I was fly the band now I always. 83 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what you think is are flying. There's 84 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: some it's one of two things, because I don't I 85 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: don't understand the flying thing with you so much so 86 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: and I think you're probably a good pilot. No, I mean, 87 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: you have to be right. But they also call them 88 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: those little planes like you know, lawyer killers because you 89 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: get just you get enough and then you get out there. 90 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's man. 91 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: The flying thing is so. 92 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: It's you know, it's a whole other show, but it is. 93 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 2: You know, it's a manifestation. That's something that I put 94 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: out there a long time ago, and I think that's 95 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: one of the United sharing common It is manifesting our realities. 96 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 2: And it starts with small things. Start off me just 97 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 2: when I was nineteen one to get my pilot's license, 98 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: and it took me three years to get it. Why 99 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: do you want to get a pilot line? I just 100 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: wanted to fly. I just had that when when I 101 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 2: was a kid, I made model their plans. I just 102 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 2: wanted and I just wanted to fly. And it took 103 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: me three years just because it took time and money 104 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 2: to do it. I got my pilots license and then 105 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 2: I just stopped flying because I didn't really have a mission. 106 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: And then I flew with Kenny Chesney one time coming 107 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: back from a show in a private jet. My first 108 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 2: time ever at a jet. I was like, this is unbelievable. 109 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 2: It was back in two thousand and three. It was me, 110 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 2: Keith and Kenney in a plane. It was awesome. I 111 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: was like, whoa, this is what I want, you know, 112 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: And so I've done this with a couple of things. 113 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: I made my password on my computer. When we landed, 114 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 2: we went to a different terminal right where jets go, 115 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 2: and it was a place called Signature. It was like, 116 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 2: a that's what it's like, the little General Aviation plane 117 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: for a place for jets. And I wrote made signature 118 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: on my password in my computer. And so every time 119 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 2: I had to get on my computer, out of type 120 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 2: words signature. And I was like, I'm gonna get I wanna. 121 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 2: I want to own a jet. And uh, you know, 122 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: my career kind of stalled out around two thousand and 123 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: eight and that dream I was looking, that's never gonna happen. 124 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 2: I'm never going to own a jet school. But uh, 125 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: you know, that dream kind of went away. And I 126 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: was playing a gig somewhere with halfway the Hazard of 127 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: all people, and a little plane flew overhead and these guys. 128 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: I was like, I always look up the planes, and 129 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 2: these guys, that's Tim McGraw's. He's Tim's up there flying 130 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: that plane to the gig today. It was a charity 131 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 2: gig we were doing. I was like Tim McGraw has 132 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: his own colonne. He's not flying around a little six 133 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: cylinder prop plane buying, you know. And sure enough was 134 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: Tim McGraw, and he's like, yeah, I'm geting my pots license. 135 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: And he was flying the school. 136 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: Plane and getting my pilot's license, and he was flying 137 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: the plane. 138 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: Oh, he was an instructor flying to a gig, multitasking. 139 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: And so I went out the next day and started 140 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 2: flying with that instructor, and I just fell back in 141 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 2: love with flying again. And I had had a kid 142 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 2: at this point, too heavy was born. So I was 143 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 2: looking for ways to kind of cut the corners off 144 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: some of my travel at this point as flying south 145 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 2: west all the time, and so I started finding that 146 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: small plane NonStop because of a of a mcgarraw. And 147 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 2: I put about five six seven or hours in that plane. 148 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: Fine everywhere, and long story short, how things you put 149 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 2: them out in the universe, they come back to you. 150 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 2: I was flying out of O'Hair. I flew a commercial 151 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: plane into o hair, went around to the other side 152 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 2: of the airport and jumped in my plane, a little 153 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 2: prop plane that someone had met me with to fly 154 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: to a gig in a small town and I was 155 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: using the bathroom at the Jurnal and I looked up 156 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: and the word signature was above the urinal and I 157 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, Like it totally worked out 158 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 2: in the way I wasn't expecting. I thought I was 159 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: gonna be in the back of a jet, you know, 160 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 2: that was my my But I was manifesting and hoping 161 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: to manifest. Ended up being in the front left seat 162 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: of a prop plane, which is way cool. Irought' to 163 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 2: be the pilot in a passenger and uh, it's just 164 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: it's crazy put things out there like that and they 165 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 2: come around and now and to continue to evolve. I've met, 166 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: you know, I've met the guys that cessa them, became 167 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 2: friends with the guy that runs the company, and finding 168 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 2: a little different plane now that it can actually hold 169 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: all the guys in my band. They're they're all brave 170 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: enough to fly with me. And I have another pilot 171 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 2: that flies with us too, so there's two of us 172 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: up front. 173 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: It's the plane is just because we were together in 174 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: Vague and hey, we're leaving at four pm tomorrow if 175 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: you want to. I was like, dude, I appreciate the offer. 176 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to get in a small plane like that, 177 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: Like I don't feel comfortable. 178 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you flew you know. For me and the 179 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,679 Speaker 2: guys of the band, it's you know, it's we have kids, 180 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 2: and it's just like I remember the first time I 181 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: took a guitar player with me, our old guitar player, 182 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 2: Brian Lace, and he's like, i'll go up with you 183 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: one time when it's perfectly clear and we don't go 184 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: a mile from the airport. 185 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, we'll see about that. 186 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: I flew him home one night from a gig, so 187 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 2: you got to be home at you know, midnight instead 188 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 2: of getting home the next day on the bus at 189 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 2: like ten am. I called him Velcrow because I could 190 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: not get him out of the seat. He was stuck 191 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: to that seat. Every time I was flying an ice 192 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: rain snow he was always like first one wanted to go, 193 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: because it's a time machine. If you got kids in 194 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 2: this business, you have to be two places at once. 195 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: It's definitely just and maybe not that plane, but you know, 196 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: sometimes work, if they're somewhere I have to get quick, 197 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: they'll send a plane. Yeah, and they'll go, hey, we 198 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: need you New York to Los Angeles, and then we 199 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: need you back in New York, so they'll send their 200 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: plane and I'll just get shipped around. 201 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a game. It's like it is, and it's 202 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 2: a total luxury. It's crazy even talking about it, but 203 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 2: it is for me. I want to be as successful 204 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 2: as a dad as I am, as I feel like 205 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: as I've been as a as a singer entertainer. And 206 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: to do that, you have to be present. You have 207 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: to be there. You can't talk about it. You have 208 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: to be there for the you know, make the breakfast. 209 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: You gotta be there to go to the games. 210 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: You gotta be there. 211 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 2: To do all the little things, the tiny things, the 212 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: dumb things, and a lot. 213 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: Of math though, right, are you doing math all the 214 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: time up there or not? Really? I'm just proud I 215 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: seeing up on a calculator the whole time. 216 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: I'm going to my buddy Austin. You know, I fly 217 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: with This is such a help. I mean, it's when 218 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: you got a two man crew, it really helps out 219 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 2: a lot. But I've got a great product and find 220 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 2: Sessna plane and it's really reliable, great people and the 221 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 2: great service, and it is just it makes it And 222 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 2: I fly the whole band with me too. This guy's 223 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 2: go with me everywhere, and so when we walk on stage, 224 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 2: they're in a great mood because their families are happy. 225 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 2: Their wives are in good spirits, been with their kids 226 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 2: that morning we hit the stage. It makes for a 227 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 2: better show. I mean it makes it's a win win 228 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 2: for us, for our fans and obviously for our kids. 229 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 2: So it's it's kind of at this point of my career, 230 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 2: one has to you know that they go hand it down. 231 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: How do you do your band? Because so I have 232 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: our little stupid band. Yeah, and I have a couple 233 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: people that I keep on all the time, my drummer, 234 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: my bassist. They're just my drummer, my basis. Yeah cool, 235 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: but do you but everybody else kind of trickles in 236 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: and out, and I pay them, you know, they have 237 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: to get paid differently because them do some shows. Is 238 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: your whole band like on a retainer? Like do you 239 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: pay them a salary? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, so they're like 240 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: your people. 241 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: Yeah that's I mean. I've always been a band guy. 242 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 2: When I was playing down the Lower Broadway, I just 243 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 2: liked being in the band, you know, I love I 244 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 2: had a list of like, you know, one hundred guys 245 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: I've met over the year the years of being down there. 246 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 2: If I needed to steel player, I'd call Rusty dan Mayer. 247 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 2: If I needed a up right bass player, I'd call 248 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: this guy. And so I just I've always loved musicians. 249 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 2: They're my favorite people. They're just to be a great musician, 250 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 2: you have to learn from all the people before you, 251 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: so it really humbles you to a degree. You know, 252 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: you don't think you're the greatest guy ever because you 253 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 2: have to study all the people that came before you 254 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: to get good. So they're just great people. They're fun 255 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 2: to be around. They don't know who he goes. 256 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: But you pay them, they get the guys like your company. Yes, 257 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: I wasn't the greatest thing when you got should get 258 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: a band. You go from paying them day rates when 259 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: you actually put them on salary. It's like the best feelings. 260 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: It's a big deal for them to beyond salary. And 261 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: so yeah, they. 262 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 2: Get if you're gonna pay the salaries out the whole year, 263 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 2: whether we're touring or not, it's awesome. 264 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: If they come to you it said, hey, dereks, listen, 265 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: I'm want to leave them. Then go over to Urban. 266 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 2: No one's leaving my band because They just enjoy them 267 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: because they love We have a great vibe together. We're 268 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: super close. We're as close as probably your morning shows. 269 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 2: And they get paid really well, and they fly everywhere 270 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 2: with me, to every gate when I fly a lot. 271 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: So there they their lifestyle. You give them the lifestyle 272 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: that makes them want to stay. 273 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 2: There's no gig out there that anyone in my band 274 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: would ever take. You could toss the greatest rock band 275 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: out there, they would never take that gig. I treat 276 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 2: them like those guys are my That isn't all my 277 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 2: dude time. It's all my bro times with the guys 278 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 2: in the band are who I do all my stuff with. 279 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 2: That's when I come home, I'm like, I don't need 280 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 2: to see any ever, males. I'm good. I've been with 281 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: my guys all weekend. We had a great time. We 282 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 2: went and saw them out Rushmore, we went hiking, we 283 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 2: play video games, and we were going through this shared 284 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: experience together. When I walk on stage, it's like a 285 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: you know, I have a lot of other friends with 286 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 2: these guys. We have a shared experience of going out 287 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 2: there every day and how to you know, run this 288 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 2: marathon and crack this rock and break it up into 289 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 2: little pieces over and over again, and find ways to 290 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 2: do it where it makes it fun for us continually. 291 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: It's kind of like a therapy session in a way, 292 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 2: if you really are trying to do it in an 293 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: honest and sincere way, the live show that is, and 294 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 2: not just put on a show, but go through an 295 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 2: experience with your fans and with your fellow bandmates. It's 296 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: I really approach it that way. Obviously it's my deal, 297 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 2: but I approach it as a band, from the way 298 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: we interact on stage to even where their MIC's replaced 299 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 2: on stage, you know, up near mind, not way in 300 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 2: the back. You know, it's more like a level, you know, 301 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: I think of Pearl Jam. I try to keep it 302 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 2: up tight and close like that. 303 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: So, if you're a way of doing dude stuff, is 304 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: there any resentment from your wife, Like if she's at 305 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: home with the kids and she's like, you get to 306 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: go and do dudes day. I know you're working, but 307 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 1: still you're doing dude fun stuff and then you come 308 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: home and she's been with kids totally. 309 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I want to say resentment, but there's 310 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 2: there's I mean there I have to be honest about 311 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 2: it and transparent about it, because I am I. I 312 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 2: am doing my job. 313 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: This is what I do. 314 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 2: But I love what I do. I mean, I love. 315 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: There's nothing like be on stage with your guys and 316 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: your fans, and and I get to do stuff. You know, 317 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 2: there's there's work. But yeah, I went hiking yesterday and 318 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: the Black Hills in the mountains upside of rapid Cities 319 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: South Dakota. And I was in Billings, Montana two days ago, 320 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 2: hiking through just beautiful mountains around there, the hills around there, 321 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 2: and just and I just tell her this stuff. I'm 322 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 2: not trying to hide it from them, like I not. 323 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 2: It's raunting all week in Nashville, and here I am 324 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 2: like in like seventy five of your weather and like 325 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 2: Montana probably one of my favorite states in the whole country. 326 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: And so when I come home, I just I'm ready 327 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 2: to for battle, man. I'm ready to like help out 328 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 2: any way I possibly can. I wake up every morning 329 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 2: at four forty four so I can go get my 330 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: workout in, be done by six, and be home like 331 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 2: ready to be fully engaged and like the drama of 332 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 2: having three kids and three dogs and all the work 333 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 2: that goes into trying to make that house, you know, 334 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: run great and everyone have great days. 335 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: So I owever a lot. 336 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 2: But she it's if I ever were to win award, 337 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 2: the only reason I loved. 338 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: One I ever Keith Urban, I ever do win an award, 339 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: I'd want to go up there just to thank her 340 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 1: because it's incredible. Man. 341 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 2: She it's it's it's hard, man, Any all moms out there, 342 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: any any parent, that's the hardest gig man. You know you, 343 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 2: I know how hard you work, it's insane, your your 344 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: work ethic, and I you know, I work really hard too. 345 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 2: But I think that when you have kids, like it's 346 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 2: a whole other level because there's such a responsibility there. 347 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: I mean, you're basically growing this creature and your input 348 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 2: is so important, and you don't ever get a break. 349 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: I mean, you're you're it's twenty four seven. You don't 350 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 2: even sleep because someone's having a nightmare. Some might feed 351 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 2: the bed, you know, you hear a sound, dog's barking. 352 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 2: It's just it's so it's twenty four seven. 353 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: It's so hard. So unless you're gone for three days 354 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: and it's like a vacation. 355 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: So for me, I'm not saying for me, I'm saying 356 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 2: for her, no, for me. Yeah, it's like I got 357 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: a you know, it's kind of pulling the cord and 358 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 2: you get to go on the road. It's you're out 359 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,719 Speaker 2: there and you can get stuff done and you can 360 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 2: choose to either you know, party or work out or 361 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot of freedoms with that. So yeah, 362 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 2: I just try to be really transparent with her and 363 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: honest about what I'm doing, and she's super supportive at 364 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 2: the same time. Yeah, it's it's it's stuff I can 365 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 2: get that break. 366 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: You mentioned a minute ago in two thousand and eight 367 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: when you say your career is stalled. 368 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 369 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: Nine, yeah, eight or nine, because right now we see 370 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: you as the guy who has You're now in the A. 371 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: It's hard to in the A group. You're in the 372 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: A group. You're now in the A group. I think 373 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: you're a recent addition. Yeah, just speaking frankly to your 374 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: region edition to the A group. Yeah, B plus me, 375 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: you're you're really are in the I would tell you 376 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: if you want plus plus you're in You're in the 377 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: You're in the like you're in that mix of is 378 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: he going to be in the entertaindent of Year category. 379 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: Now it's not he's for sure going to be nominated, 380 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: Like you know Luke is going to be nominated, yeah, 381 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: and probably gonna win. Yeah, and he didn't win the 382 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: a CM al Dean did, but like you know, Luke's 383 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: gonna be but you're in is he going to be? 384 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: And it's happened in the last couple of years, But 385 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: it's but you're like the constant grinder. 386 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've used that word a lot. It's like the 387 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 2: hockey player that goes down there and not the slapshot 388 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 2: guy from out top, not the fancy forward that's getting 389 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 2: the sweet goals with the guy that goes down in 390 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 2: the corner and digs the pucks out. You know. It's 391 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 2: probably that's when I play hockey here in town, in 392 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: my little league at the Beer League. That's kind of 393 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: my role in real life on that hockey team. And 394 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 2: I think in my career, Yeah, it's all about it's 395 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 2: about grinding. My favorite quote was written on a It's 396 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: a Calvin Coolest quote. It's about you know, persistence and determinations. 397 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 2: You know, education and talent and genius can't take the 398 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 2: place of persistence and determination. That is the key to 399 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 2: my success for sure, and I know probably for yours 400 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 2: as well. 401 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: I mean, there's no reason. 402 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 2: Why I should be a country singer or a pilot. 403 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 2: But you know, those are just things that I wanted 404 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: to do. And if you work harder than anyone else, 405 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: you got a better chance of making that happen. 406 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: What what happened in two thousand and eight, thousand and 407 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: nine and your mind? Do you take a step back? 408 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: You know, I went out on the road with I 409 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: play a thousand dates on my own. I went out 410 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: the road with Kenny, and then I went out the 411 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: road towards straight and I went back on the road 412 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: with Kenny. And that's usually that's usually the platform to 413 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 2: jump off of. You know, that's where urban flats everyone 414 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: went through Kenny back when those when we were starting off. 415 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 2: If you got the Kenny gig bo, you were a 416 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 2: couple of years now you be headlining on your own, 417 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 2: and you know, we were really looking like a two 418 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 2: thousand and eight would be bringing out some video and 419 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 2: it's maybe this kind of groundswell, and really, uh it's 420 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 2: for you know, it's just the songs weren't there. That's 421 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 2: what it comes down to. I was writing pretty much 422 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 2: all my own songs, working love with some some friends 423 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 2: mind here in town. And and it's not their fault either, 424 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: it's it's it's nobody's fault. I'm so happy that things 425 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 2: are where they are. But I think I discovered you 426 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 2: can't tour. I think I was in my mind, I 427 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: was trying to make albums that would be jet fuel 428 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: for the for touring, like how can this album, how 429 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 2: can this song lead to headlining? And that's and you know, 430 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 2: I need, I need a song help me get there. 431 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: And that's just a terrible way to make records. And 432 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 2: nothing against those records. Those records still sound like and 433 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 2: my are so some of my favorite signing records, but 434 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 2: as far as singles go, and songs are going to 435 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: move the needle, and really, you know, and I feel 436 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 2: like I just needed to reset. I don't know, I 437 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 2: just I was you can only work so hard, man. 438 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 2: I was working so hard on the road, touring NonStop, 439 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: you know, jumping off stage, I'm stage diving, I'm pulling 440 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: fans up. I'm just you know, known as the hard 441 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: working men in country music. We did like forty one 442 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 2: shows in forty five days one time. I mean, I'm 443 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 2: out there all the time, and I'm trying to rush 444 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 2: back here and make records and go back out there again. 445 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 2: It just it just doesn't It just doesn't work that way. 446 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 2: So I was on the road in two thousand and 447 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 2: eight or nine with Paisley, and so I tried my 448 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 2: headlining thing. 449 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: It just wasn't working. 450 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 2: So it was like, okay, retreat Brad was I had 451 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 2: a chance to go with Brad and it was on 452 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 2: that tour and I was opening for him, and there's 453 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 2: a lot going on that tour. Weren't really getting a 454 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 2: chance to sound check, and there's just the vibe of 455 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 2: my band just crashed. It was kind of the tour 456 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 2: that just everyone just like, you know, we're just only 457 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 2: playing for forty five minutes, and it's just the songs 458 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 2: weren't really there. And I just was like in the 459 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 2: back of my bus one day and I remember thinking, 460 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna make a bluegrass record. I'm wanna make a 461 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 2: bluegrass record and a country record, and just I need 462 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 2: to get creative. That's what I kept thinking, is I 463 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 2: need to get creative, because when you're in that opening slot, 464 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 2: especially after you've headlined for a little while, it's technic 465 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 2: go back and just do forty five minutes of the 466 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 2: same show every night. You know, you're trying to make 467 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:24,959 Speaker 2: the most of that forty five minutes, so you kind 468 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 2: of get locked into doing the same show and just 469 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 2: killed all of us. So I left and mid ended 470 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 2: up making just just a bluegrass record, and uh it 471 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 2: really and I went back in the process of making that, 472 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: being off the grid and not worrying about singles or 473 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: touring or anything, just trying to make a great record 474 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 2: that's stood alone by itself and existed just for itself 475 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 2: totally rechanged my thinking. And you know, I started looking 476 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 2: around people like Miranda Lambert and you know, she only 477 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 2: writes half an album, if even that, you know, and 478 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 2: Lady A and these people at the time were like, 479 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 2: you know, they're collecting great songs. You know, they came 480 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 2: to realize that after your second album, you can't write 481 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,959 Speaker 2: an entire album. Just there's no time. You're touring all 482 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 2: the time, you see so many of the responsibilities. I 483 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 2: was married at this point, with the kids too, So 484 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 2: the Blue Guys record, you know, I was working with 485 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 2: the guy of John Randall, one of my best friends, 486 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 2: and he was bringing me great songs from Christopherson and 487 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 2: Buddy Miller and just we started making a collection of 488 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 2: an album that had my input but also had songs 489 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 2: that kind of rounded out what I was trying to 490 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: say or the feel of the album. And I carry 491 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 2: that on with working with Ross Kauferman into the next 492 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 2: couple of albums and uh, really trying to make albums 493 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 2: that don't worry about touring, do worry about anything. Who cares? 494 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 2: Just make a great record and one of the great things. 495 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: Now I don't know an a lister, but where in 496 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 2: my career is there's the better off you are doing 497 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 2: touring and more of you you have those fans, more 498 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 2: freedom you have to say, who cares, Let's make the 499 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 2: record you really want to make. I feel like that's 500 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 2: why Keith is making like his best records, Keith Thurman's 501 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 2: records me just get better and better each time because 502 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: I feel like he's even more like I don't care. 503 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 2: I'm gonna make great music that makes me happy that 504 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 2: I like and hopefully you like it too. But there's 505 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 2: no there's no math behind it. You know, it's just 506 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 2: totally it's pure arts and you didn't have to worry 507 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 2: about where He's gonna get his next meal. You know, 508 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 2: he's just making great records. And I feel like there's 509 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 2: on both ends of the spectrum. When you're first starting 510 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,239 Speaker 2: off and you're so hungry, and then when you get 511 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 2: to place you have a little bit of success and 512 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 2: you have that freedom that it brings to you, you can 513 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 2: really make your best records. 514 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: And I feel like that's what's happening now. I'm not 515 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: sure to answer your question, but yeah, you and Keith 516 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: getting long pretty well. 517 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 2: I love him, man, It's hard for me to be 518 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 2: friends with them because I just have so much respect 519 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 2: for him. It's like we're good friends, but at the 520 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 2: same time, like you're Keith Urban. 521 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: It's almost it's almost like why do you This is 522 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: the feeling I have with him because him and I 523 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: are closer than him than me and other arts. Yeah, 524 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: and he's one of the guys I like, and we'll 525 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: talk to off the show. But it's like I was like, 526 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: why do you want to be friends with me? Like 527 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: you're so smart? Yeah, and you're so talented and you're 528 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: so rich, Like everything about you is way better than 529 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: why would you want to be friends with me? That's 530 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: how I feel with him. 531 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 2: He is for me. He's like a he's like a beacon. 532 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 2: He's something I look up to for advice on just 533 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 2: for for lifestyle and management and how you approach things. 534 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 2: And he's just he's so present, which is something I 535 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 2: always you know, that's my main thing with anything I do, 536 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 2: is trying to be as present as possible in the 537 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 2: moment that I'm in. And he really is a true 538 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: reflection of that. I mean when you speak to him, 539 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 2: when you talk to him, he's so focused on what 540 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 2: you have to say. He's listening, and it's very uncommon 541 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 2: in this business full you know, singers and people are 542 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 2: trying to look at me, and you know, are have 543 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,239 Speaker 2: like five seconds looking into your eyes and they're kind 544 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,479 Speaker 2: of thinking about the next thing. He's just really focused 545 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: and present and has great advice and he's been through 546 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 2: a lot, so he can offer a good good gems. 547 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,959 Speaker 2: But whenever I see him, it choosing on a Sunday, uh, 548 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:53,959 Speaker 2: and we're doing some with our kids or something, and 549 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 2: I'm like coming off the road and just beat up 550 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 2: my brain. His brain's already functioning faster than mind. Anyway, 551 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: I'm coming off like no sleep, I'm tired, I'm trying 552 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 2: to make conversation with him, like hopefully I see you 553 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 2: one day and I'm not like just so exhausted because 554 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 2: it'd be fun to talk like I have an actual conversation. 555 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 3: Hank Tight, The Bobby Cast will be right back. Wow, 556 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 3: and we're back on the Bobby Cast. 557 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: So speakin of key. Did you watch Big Little Liars? 558 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: Big Little Liars? 559 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 2: I need to. I know Ross loves it and he's 560 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: freaking out about every time you write. He's like talks 561 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 2: about it and everyone's talking about us. That's that show. 562 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 2: I've only seen like half the first episode and it 563 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 2: just so it hasn't hooked, you know, I need to 564 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 2: get into it. Took me two episodes. Yeah, I've seen 565 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 2: it all now. 566 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: I know I don't tell many to see it. 567 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 2: I want to tell you I'm not a you know what, 568 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 2: I'm just my watching. I'm just not watching Front of Lights, 569 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 2: which is like ten years old. 570 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: I've never been. 571 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 2: Life's so good, but I'm so it takes them all 572 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 2: to get into things like That's that's a ten year 573 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 2: old show. I'm just not getting into. 574 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,719 Speaker 1: It, but I not think I would love it. 575 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, but if like there are so many new there's 576 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 2: so much hor Now, I know, it's unbelievable. We're good 577 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 2: friends of Connie. She's like a good friend of ours, 578 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 2: and my wife and Connie are great friends, and she's 579 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 2: just one of my favorite people. And always feel so 580 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 2: bad that I hadn't really seen that show because it's 581 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 2: so good and she's her acting that is just unbelievable. Yeah, 582 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: I need to check out Big Little Lives. It's it's incredible, right. 583 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: So it's it's really good, but it's weird because again, 584 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: I've gotten to know Nicole a bit, but it's weird 585 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: to see your neck on TV, and so I gotta 586 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: feel weird. I feel like I should turn my head 587 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 1: when because I'm like. 588 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 2: She's she's an actress. Bro, that's what they do. Man, 589 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 2: They're able to somehow, They're just that's then they're their 590 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 2: body is just a tool to use to project their art. Man. 591 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: They don't look at it like we do, but again 592 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: I do. I'm like, I feel that way, and it's 593 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 1: it's the whole. 594 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 2: Thing's weird for me. 595 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's weird for her. So what about Like, Okay, 596 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: so let's say music video. You got another girl in 597 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: the video that's not your wife. 598 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 2: It's weird for me. 599 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not an actor, though I'm not talking about 600 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: the agen part, Like yeah, what about like that when 601 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: you'll say a funny it's a funny story. 602 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 2: There's had a song called trying to Stop Your Leaving 603 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 2: and I did it with Trey fan Joy. It was 604 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 2: a great friend of ours, great video director. And we're 605 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 2: shooting over Chattanooga and my I just got married. My 606 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 2: wife's on the bus and I was in there for 607 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 2: the first shoot. All is a five thirty in the 608 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 2: morning and it's like two story motel out the middle 609 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 2: of the outside of Chattanooga, and. 610 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: I'm in there. 611 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 2: There's the girls in there, and a cast comes. I 612 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 2: told her to bring some clothing off the bus and 613 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 2: you to wear. And she comes in and Trey goes, oh, no, no, no, 614 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 2: this first scene is just gonna be boxers. And my 615 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 2: wife's like my new wife's like okay, and she walks 616 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 2: out and goes back in the bus and Trey goes, 617 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 2: Dirk's and this girl high, nice to meet you. 618 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: How you doing. 619 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 2: There's like three dudes around like those kind of like 620 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 2: porn cameras. You're not just like the smallest still convan 621 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 2: and like in this shady like kind of paste floral bedspread, 622 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 2: kind of a motel place. Dirks, this isn't come a 623 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 2: little closer, This isn't raining on Sunday. This is effing 624 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 2: all right. And she f Zeppelin go, I'm with this girl. 625 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 2: I just got married. She's like, you know, and Trey, 626 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 2: She's like, okay, if you're not gonna kiss her, we 627 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 2: lick his chest and look it like up towards his neck, 628 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 2: so like she's this girl is like licking me, and 629 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 2: I'm just like, I'm not trying to do anything, and like, 630 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 2: you know, because I gotta go right back in the 631 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 2: bus until my wife would just happen. You know, I 632 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 2: can't lie about this is gonna be on TV. Come 633 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 2: back in the bus. And my wife's like, so how'd 634 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 2: that go. I'm like, well, yeah, it was. 635 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: It was something. 636 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 2: And I think that was one of the last videos 637 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 2: I did where it's not all I'll do whatever it 638 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 2: takes to help to help the song, not commercially, but 639 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 2: just the story. You know, the song is all that 640 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 2: matters in this town, so all matters me, and there's 641 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 2: a video that can help tell that story about it. 642 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 2: And then I'll do whatever it takes, you know, I'll 643 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 2: go anywhere and do anything. But I'm just not an actor. 644 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 2: And you look at Keys videos. Just recently did he 645 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 2: start kind of going back into some acting stuff. For many, many, 646 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 2: many years, Keith was just play guitar and let the 647 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 2: actors do the acting, let the singer do the singing 648 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 2: and make a great story video, not try to do 649 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 2: the whole thing, and of respect to that. And it 650 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 2: makes sense because I'm not very not very good actor. 651 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: If there's a hot girl licking your neck and you're 652 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: in your boxers like band aids, but how do you 653 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 1: can still your fasties? You know what? Just mind control? 654 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 2: Jedi mind control. 655 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: But I don't have I don't have it. 656 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 2: I know no. And that's what it's like. I'm you 657 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 2: just have to like baseball, Grandma, baseball toilet. It's total, 658 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 2: just like it's Jedi mind control. It's not gonna happen. 659 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 2: I can't let it happen. 660 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: Have some songs here, oh man, it's place of this stuff. 661 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: How about this one right here? 662 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 2: Put that crossed my mind a little too, because I 663 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 2: was thinking. 664 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: When you first though that comes on you hear this 665 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 1: up here? 666 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 2: Reverse great song right here in town. And really without Bread, 667 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have anything. He really took me under his 668 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 2: wing as a writer. And I learned so much from 669 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 2: Bread about writing. And this is back when like we 670 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 2: had like the shoe box tape recorders, you know, for 671 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 2: and pit and paper. And he taught me how to write. 672 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 2: One of the things he tom was just a you 673 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 2: think out loud and paper. Don't talk the whole time 674 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 2: in your writing songs for somebody, Just to work on 675 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 2: something when you got an idea. Maybe. But and I 676 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 2: remember playing that for Autumn House, who was an art 677 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 2: at a Capitol. I found her outside exiting. I grabbed 678 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 2: my guitar, ran after her to exciting she came out 679 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 2: of there. I sat her down on my tailgate played 680 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 2: her that song acoustically. I was going to the studio 681 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 2: the next day. And she's like, cut that song. That's great. 682 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: So you run out to some prominent person here in town, 683 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 1: say hey, stop and have her watch you sing a song. 684 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 2: She was an A and R. She still is over Capitol Records. 685 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 2: And and I she was in the club I think 686 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 2: it exitent and hearing listened to somebody and I texted her, 687 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 2: text her I called her and she met me outside 688 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 2: and I played it for acoustically, like outside the club, 689 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 2: and uh, because I thought it was a be a 690 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 2: big hit. Oddly enough, I fought really hard for that 691 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 2: not to be the first single, So what did you 692 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 2: want to be? The first song called Wish It Would Break, 693 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 2: which is more of a country thing. You know, it's 694 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 2: about your wishing your car steer would break. Because every 695 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 2: song plays your mind, your girl, we're stening this picture 696 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 2: frame would break that keeps falling down, but you don't 697 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 2: have the heart to throw it away because it's the 698 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 2: picture of the two of y'all. In the last verse 699 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 2: is about wishing your heart breaks, you just move on. 700 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 2: It's a great song and I wrote that with Brett 701 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 2: but Duncan Mike Dunan from capitols like we're going clothes, 702 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 2: I think. 703 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: So and you're glad, Yeah, all right, here we go. 704 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 2: Come a little cols hear that song makes me think 705 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 2: of Chesney. I wrote that Brett Beavers, but Chesney said 706 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 2: that was a song that when you heard that come 707 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 2: on the radio, that's the reason why he took me 708 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 2: back out on the roads. 709 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: And do you man, and you do so many I 710 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: hate people do this to me too. 711 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 2: No, but I haven't heard that. I don't play that 712 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 2: song live anymore. So I love hearing that. It's a 713 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 2: great song. 714 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: You don't play it's a little slow. 715 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 2: It's great. 716 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: And you say a little slow because you feel like 717 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: it takes the crowd down. 718 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 2: You know, you gotta make a roller coaster out there 719 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 2: when you're in. You gotta find a way to take 720 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 2: people on the ride. And you can only have you 721 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 2: got to pick your you know, our show is so 722 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: high energy, and that's but what makes the show great 723 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 2: is and what makes those high energy songs work is 724 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,719 Speaker 2: the real moments and and and that. Then you can 725 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: only have so many in that song. Just there's just 726 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 2: no room for that one right now? 727 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: All right about this one? Probably my favorite songs. 728 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 2: Another song I don't do the live show anymore, but uh, 729 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 2: I do it usually earlier the. 730 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: Night in the acoustics show. 731 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: But uh, when I think of that video, I think 732 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 2: that song through the video for it, because there's a 733 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 2: scene where I'm getting rained on by. 734 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: A rain machine and there but you can tell us 735 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: know the rain like anywhere else in my mind, it's 736 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: like just coming on. It's like the cartoon Whenever Guys 737 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: on the Bat. It's such a great video. 738 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 2: There's just that one moment, because you know, if you're 739 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 2: you care so much about the work you do, you're like, oh, 740 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 2: that one scene drives you crazy. But Chris Sick, you 741 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 2: did that video. It's actually one of the best videos 742 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 2: we ever did. And uh, that song is I love 743 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 2: that song, man, It's one of my favorite songs. But 744 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 2: I usually do it. I do a pre show acoustic 745 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 2: performance for some folks. I usually don't doing that song. 746 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 2: It's a good one. 747 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: I went to watch John Mary a couple of weeks ago. 748 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,239 Speaker 1: I know how was that was? Speaking of bone? Did 749 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: you get one? I did move a little bit the 750 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: whole time. The whole thing. 751 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 2: It wasn't gross was a picture of my get it moved. 752 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: It was fully the It was like by y yeah, 753 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: And so I went, now a point I was gonna 754 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: get to. 755 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 2: That's so funny, dude, I had. I genuinely had a yeah. 756 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 2: But you went to John Mayer so for slow down 757 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 2: it was yeah. Moments I come back to. 758 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: Have no idea amazing had a point he did? He 759 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: did who I don't know. I talked about the song that. 760 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 2: I wrote that song and launched Blown the same day 761 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 2: with Brett Beeavers and then into Steve Bogarten. You know, 762 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 2: it's a great song. I would say it's one of 763 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 2: the songs that it could say more. I mean thought was, 764 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 2: you know, it was a number one, but it wasn't 765 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 2: like a that was the lead single off an album 766 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 2: and it just wouldn't do much. People still love us, 767 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 2: I still do it live, but I used that song 768 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 2: for a lot of video content of like our life 769 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 2: on the Road. But that's a song that, if I'm 770 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 2: being totally honest in critiquing myself, just didn't say enough. 771 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 2: You know. The verses need to be more specific and 772 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 2: more biting, and more personal and more telling who you 773 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 2: are or the story you're trying to tell and just 774 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 2: not so interchangeable. So that I love that song, but 775 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 2: I was listening to That's one thing every song you 776 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 2: put out I put up on this one on has 777 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: to be like, say, something really impactful or you know, 778 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 2: every line has to be just perfect. 779 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: I know what it is. I remember what it was. Yeah. 780 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: So I went to John Mayer and he had these packages. 781 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: He was that they sell right, and it was like, 782 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: I don't buy one of them. I'm lucky enough. Oh yeah, yeah, 783 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: I get to go hang out. Yeah and so. But 784 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: it was like, if you're a super fan, you could 785 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: play like eight hundred bucks and you could go walk 786 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: backstage and get like a banana and touch John's I 787 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: don't know, what do you do? Yeah? 788 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 2: Is there a little tour to see? 789 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: Yes, there's yes guitar and you pay one hundreds and 790 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: then you get you meet him and whatever. Do you 791 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: do that part of it where you're like pay because 792 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: it is worth something to get the experience. 793 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 2: We do a thing where you pay extra nine dollars, 794 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 2: but you're pay and you come back to the rooms 795 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 2: you get you get to come in before anybody else. 796 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 2: There's beer and alcohol and some food. 797 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: And I've seen that room. Yeah, and there's like a 798 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: little photo I saw people just paying money at the 799 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: butt for mayor. 800 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 2: You know, it's a tough thing, you don't You want 801 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 2: to keep your ticket prices as low as possible, and 802 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 2: and and and and that's the whole thing out there. 803 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 2: Like one thing I think about from Garth Brooks is 804 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 2: low ticket prices. Man, it's the coolest thing you want 805 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 2: to keep. 806 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,239 Speaker 1: It's not the ticket though, that's what that's. 807 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 2: But if you want to, like, yeah, if you want to, 808 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 2: like you know, if I go to see it, if 809 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 2: you're going to see you two or something, they offered 810 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 2: like some sort of like backstage thing. I would want 811 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 2: that because I'm a super fan. But yeah, that's and 812 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 2: I think it's the fans of one. It's a cool 813 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 2: deal because we we we do a lot. I used 814 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 2: to just be by myself and guitar, but the guys, 815 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 2: my man, they're sitting around and they're like, one guy, 816 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 2: Ben started playing with me on the guitar because he's like, 817 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 2: I don't eventhing to do. I'd love to go pick 818 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 2: And then Cassidy came out and started playing bass and 819 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 2: a kick drum, and then Dan bars fiddle. It's like 820 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 2: a full show. Now we play like forty minutes. It's 821 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 2: like a really fun Why. 822 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: Your voice sucks on Monday if you're playing six shows 823 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: in three days? 824 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah we're and we do a lot of 825 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 2: like backstage just kind of playing as well. So it's 826 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 2: kind of fried, but it's for them. It's really fine. 827 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 2: It's really it's really it's what's cool about it's it's 828 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 2: acoustic and it's plugged end, but it's acoustic, and it's 829 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 2: I'm taking requests, We're telling jokes and telling stories, and 830 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 2: it's it's long. It's my It's only supposed to be 831 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 2: fifteen minutes, but ends up being like sometimes thirty four minutes. 832 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: You and I know in the Nashville show you got 833 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: really sick before the show. 834 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't, I can think, I can't. 835 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: No. 836 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 2: I did the acoustic thing that night, but it was 837 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 2: a little bit of a stretch. 838 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna say. I was just like, how 839 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: do you do it? Because I remember talking to you 840 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: before the show and you're like, I have literally have 841 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: an ivy bag. You took a picture of you had water, 842 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: you were hooked up. Yeah, a needle in you. 843 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 2: I did an ivy and a steroid at twelve and 844 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 2: a steroid at six. It's like your worst nightmare, Like 845 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 2: you just played Nashville, playing your hometown show, and it's 846 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 2: like to have no voice. Uh, it's it's it was 847 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 2: a It makes me like get the heb gs just 848 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 2: thinking about that moment. 849 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: It ended up being a great night. 850 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,919 Speaker 2: It was such so cathartic that actually, when your voice 851 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 2: starts working, you're like, Wow, I'm gonna make it. This 852 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 2: is gonna happen. But leading up to that, whole day 853 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 2: was it was terrible. But I was able to do 854 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 2: the acoustic deal and I just had to cancel some 855 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:21,280 Speaker 2: mean greets and stuff. 856 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: Mike how the mower coming through the microphones you can't hear. 857 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 1: There's there's something where a house. So it's and my 858 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: name listen, what would you do in the situation? 859 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 2: That's great views up here, by the way, I love it. Yeah, yeah, 860 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 2: this is the cool. 861 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: It's the top floor, so it's cool. 862 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 863 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 1: So but my neighbor, I'm gonnaell you, what would you 864 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 1: do in this situation? I don't know if you have neighbors, Say, 865 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: I got neighbors, bro, so they have trash cans. Yeah, 866 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: and there this neighbor. I live in a nice house, 867 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: but this neighborhood is still growing, so it's all different 868 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: kinds of houses. Yeah, and so there there's no h 869 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: aa because it's not like a super great neighborhood. No. 870 00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I love where you live. You know, we're 871 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 2: You're just part of the gang over. 872 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: Here, yes, you know, so I'm just part of the crew. 873 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: I thought there might be a gate or something. There 874 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: was a there was a there was a one point 875 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: out a get at one point when I moved here, 876 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: they maybe go to and have a security secured place 877 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: in my contract because you know, just getting jumping. Yeah, 878 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: so I lived there and I lived downtown and I 879 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: place flooded. Let me get to my point here. My 880 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 1: girlfriend was out and my neighbor comes over to the 881 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: house and starts knocks on the door, and Lenza is 882 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 1: here and she's like, yeah, hell hello, So say your 883 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 1: trash cans are they when when it storms they dump over? 884 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 1: And so there's like cardboard and we don't like that. 885 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: So she was like, okay, great. So my girlfriend like 886 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: gets bungee cables and straps them to the wood and 887 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: like to whatever. So then my neighbor sends a note 888 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: to her because she gives her. She's like, hey, if 889 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: you need anything, here's my cell phone number. 890 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 2: Right there. 891 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: And so my neighbors sent the text to her going, 892 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: hey do you need a lawn service? And I was like, 893 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: you gotta be kidding me. She texted the neighbor texted lindsay. 894 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 2: No, we're good. 895 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: Thanks. What would you have done? Because my listen, my 896 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: yard wasn't in the best shape. But it was just 897 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 1: now lawnmowing time. Dude. 898 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 2: I would let that grow. I would just let it grow. 899 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 2: What are you talking about me that way? 900 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: She talked me out of it. 901 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 2: That would really? That would that would not That would 902 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 2: not sit well with me, Like, just you do you, 903 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 2: I'll do me. 904 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: And my dog has to have a backyard too, so 905 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: I thought about molling like one little square for him 906 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: and letting the rest grow up. Yeah you should, but 907 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: you know everybody kind of leaves everybody alone over here. Yeah, man, 908 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: thanks Mike, do you Is that a weird thing for 909 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: you that people know where dorks Mainley lives? You know. 910 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 2: I struggled with that a little bit. But it's it's 911 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 2: all good. I mean, country music. 912 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 1: Fans are so we're lucky you not fans neighbors. 913 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 2: Oh no, I we're pretty I'm walking my dogs and 914 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 2: because of riding on the street and everyone's that one's 915 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 2: pretty cool about it. Mean, it's yeah, it's no, it's 916 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,919 Speaker 2: not problem for me famously by her. No big gate. 917 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 2: I've never been over to your house. No gate. 918 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 1: People say I should get a gate. I don't have 919 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: a gate. Hm, yep, your kids don't enough to have 920 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: like go cards. 921 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 2: I get the buses drive by a little bit and 922 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 2: stuff like that, like the what buses, No, it's Country 923 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 2: and Western tour buses. 924 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: They come by your house and say that's what lives. 925 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 2: Oh no, it used to be like six seven times 926 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 2: a day. 927 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: I'm out. 928 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 2: You got to I don't think they can get around 929 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 2: up here. But yeah, they about a little bit. You know, 930 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,760 Speaker 2: there are those folks in there. 931 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: It's all good, you know, it is all good. Ninety 932 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: nine point nine percent. I like our listeners are the greatest, 933 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,919 Speaker 1: but it's when you get the one point the point 934 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: one percent person who I have. 935 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 2: But I should say too, I have a lot of 936 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 2: security features and I have guns as well too. I 937 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 2: mean we're we're I'm recording stuff. 938 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: I can believe these things drive by your house like 939 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: I would call them at their work and be like, hey. 940 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 2: Listen, no, let's not do this. There's a time you 941 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:49,800 Speaker 2: got those thoughts like gonna put. 942 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: Like nails in the road or something. No, I never 943 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: had that thought. I never had all put nails in 944 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 1: the road. 945 00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 2: Well I have, I've gone, I've gone, I've playing my 946 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 2: life now. I'm like it's all it's it's all good, 947 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 2: but you could go the other direction well as well, 948 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 2: and do like what guys like web Peers, big country 949 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 2: singer in the sixties. He used to have buses stop 950 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,760 Speaker 2: his house and sell him pool water. He would literally 951 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 2: jarb like little bar. It was pool for five dollars. 952 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 2: You can have some web peers to pull water. So 953 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 2: does that mail? This doesn't work out for me? You know, 954 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 2: maybe I'll start selling out some I don't have a pool, 955 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 2: I'll start selling uh, grass clippings. 956 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 3: Speaking of yards, The Bobby Cast will be right back. 957 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 3: This is the Bobby Cast. 958 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: Do you have to cook you ever? Do you put 959 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: the kid lunches together? 960 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 2: Are uh my wife does does lunches in the morning? 961 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 2: Or we met tag team? This is a's a it's 962 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 2: a full on tag team session in the morning. So 963 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 2: everyone's kind of a little bit everything. But it seems 964 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 2: like she usually makes the PB and Jay sandwich was. 965 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: What's it too? Because everybody knows you as the guy 966 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,399 Speaker 1: that does the music? But what's a Tuesday like for you? 967 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 2: Get up at four forty four? It gives me in 968 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,839 Speaker 2: one minute too, because thirty seconds complain and and talk 969 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 2: about I don't want to get up and gives me 970 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 2: thirty seconds to actually start think about the positives of 971 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 2: how I feel after I work out. I go to 972 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 2: the gym, the group work out from five to to 973 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 2: five fifty five. 974 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: You do a group work out, Yeah, do people stare 975 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 1: at you and go there's no no, I don't know. 976 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: That's all. 977 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 2: No one cares. I mean, it's all it's all good, good, good. 978 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 2: Everyone's there. People are working out five o'clock in the morning. 979 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:23,839 Speaker 2: They don't care who I am. 980 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 1: They're they're hardly You said like, I want to tell 981 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: yoga glasses now, and I was terrible. I'm terrible at yoga, right, 982 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 1: I had three of you. I'm embarrassed because I'm not 983 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 1: good at it. Three people coming to me and be like, 984 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: hey by, we're doing yo. And I'm just humiliated because 985 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: they watch. 986 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:35,399 Speaker 2: They can't. 987 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 1: Maybe you just don't know. 988 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 2: No, I don't that you know. It's all. It's all 989 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 2: just regular people and no one. Again, it's five o'clock 990 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 2: in the morning. These people are not they're there to 991 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 2: work out. They're not really that interested in who else 992 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 2: is there. It's a really hard work out. It's freaking exhausting. 993 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 2: They get home and I you know, hopefully everyone's still 994 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 2: asleep because they need to be asleep, but my house 995 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 2: always has gone up sorely, and we just you know, 996 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 2: trying to get that morning time is kind of like 997 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 2: that's kind of like some people have family dinner. For us, 998 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 2: like breakfast is like the time we're most together doing stuff, 999 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 2: and you know, just trying to it's a dance with 1000 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,839 Speaker 2: the food and the dogs and just trying to make 1001 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 2: them morning great and get at the door and positive 1002 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 2: spirits and get those guys off the school. And then 1003 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,879 Speaker 2: I come back and start working on stuff. 1004 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: But what does that mean? Working on stuffs? Writing songs. 1005 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 2: Right now, I'm trying to work on the records, so 1006 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 2: I'm writing with uh tomorrow right with Casey Bethard and 1007 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 2: Jared Johnson and but you know, and just trying to 1008 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,439 Speaker 2: catch up on life that I've missed from being from 1009 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 2: being down the road. So that's pretty much what Tuesday 1010 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 2: morning looks like, you know, and trying to catch with 1011 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 2: casts to you know, doing stuff with her, just dumb stuff, 1012 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,800 Speaker 2: I don't know, just running errands, you know, going to 1013 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 2: some more groceries or stuff, I don't know, taking them 1014 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 2: someone's shoe, GT Fixed the shoe store. 1015 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: Uh, just stuff? 1016 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 2: Man? 1017 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,399 Speaker 1: Will you write with somebody else for them? At this point? 1018 00:40:58,400 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 1: Are you just writing for yourself? 1019 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 2: I just write for myself. I don't think I'm I 1020 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 2: think enough writer to write for the people. I'd love 1021 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 2: to get a cut from somebody else, but I think, hey, 1022 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 2: when I see someone else, right, when I see another 1023 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 2: artist's name on a song, my first thought is like, 1024 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 2: how come this song wasn't good enough for you? But 1025 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 2: you're pitching it to me, you know? And second I don't. 1026 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 2: I just I don't have the time, and I don't 1027 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 2: think i'm I mean, I I from writing with guys 1028 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 2: like John Knight and Ross Coffrom, and every day I'm 1029 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 2: sure I could get something cut by somebody else because 1030 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 2: those guys are on fire. 1031 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 1: But I just right for me, I asked, because I 1032 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 1: guess three or four days ago you text her like, hey, 1033 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 1: let's all that's right, that's me and Ross right. And 1034 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: I was like, what did I say? You can tast 1035 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 1: exactly what I said back to you. You said, hey, 1036 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:36,240 Speaker 1: let's write. What was my response? 1037 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 2: He said, No, I'm not good enough for somebody. 1038 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: I said, I don't deserve to have to sit and 1039 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 1: write with Dirk's and Ross. That's that's the I only 1040 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 1: do anything I would never do. 1041 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 2: I only do stuff now at this point my career 1042 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 2: that like interests me, excite excites me. This is fun 1043 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 2: And the idea of you, me and Ross in a 1044 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 2: room writing would be really fun because he's such a 1045 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 2: positive guy. 1046 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 1: Some people in this town that you could write like 1047 00:41:58,320 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 1: that's what I was like. I was like, no, I 1048 00:41:59,440 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 1: don't kids. 1049 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 2: We could get something really great, would be really we 1050 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:03,399 Speaker 2: could get something really good. 1051 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: But I don't deserve that. 1052 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 2: It's not a deserved it. Of course you deserve it, 1053 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 2: you know, we don't. We don't deserve anything we're doing. 1054 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 2: We serve everything well, we work for and make it happen. 1055 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: And there's our Jake momentary fight. 1056 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 2: I oh, you know what I mean? You deserve to 1057 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 2: be that. Why would you not deserve to be in 1058 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:30,280 Speaker 2: that room? Because not to do that, I mean you're 1059 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 2: on stage by yourself doing comedy, which is probably sounds 1060 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 2: like the living like that sounds like a hell to me. 1061 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 2: It sounds like like my it. 1062 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 1: Doesn't sound like I was come out. I can never 1063 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: do that. 1064 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 2: I tell to their jokes on stage and they usually 1065 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 2: bomb and I usually say okay, I'll get back to 1066 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 2: the scene. Thanks for listening. So but you know, I 1067 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 2: don't know an'll think its a matter of deserve. It's 1068 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 2: a matter of it would be fun. 1069 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 1: You say you're a you two super fan? Is that 1070 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: your favorite band? 1071 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 2: I think it is. Yeah, I think it is my 1072 00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 2: favorite band. 1073 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 1: What's your I have a rule, your favorite bank, your 1074 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: favorite song? For them can't be a huge radio song, 1075 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 1: Oh gosh on earth? No, no, no, I'm asking what 1076 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 1: your fvorite songs? 1077 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 2: Would have told you the rule before I told you? 1078 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,919 Speaker 2: I say, for them, probably a song called peace on Earth? Why, 1079 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 2: it's just how it's kind of a really morbid song, 1080 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 2: but it's just about that there's never really will be 1081 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:20,839 Speaker 2: peace on Earth. 1082 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: I got it all up here, I have whatever whatever. 1083 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 2: That's my favorite record right there. 1084 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 1: From you get on this computer. I gotta going through 1085 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 1: electa right now? You have an election? 1086 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 2: Kite is so good to go play Kite? Well, hold on, 1087 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 2: it's like a song for your kids. 1088 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 1: Mike, what's happening over here? What? But did I not 1089 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,399 Speaker 1: push right this computer? Let's playing a little bit? Can 1090 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:46,319 Speaker 1: you hear it? Oh? There? It is? Is that Peace 1091 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:46,720 Speaker 1: on Earth? 1092 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 2: Yea the volumes there good. 1093 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:52,399 Speaker 1: Okay. 1094 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 2: If I had to pick on that list where there 1095 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 2: it'd probably be it would probably be Kite. This is 1096 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 2: a later U two record, though, and this is your favor. 1097 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 2: But because I remember playing me like, I have to 1098 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,399 Speaker 2: go back and I mean cool, I mean. 1099 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:08,359 Speaker 1: So good. 1100 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I love about them. It's just their 1101 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,839 Speaker 2: energy as a band, and you watch them play, it's 1102 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,799 Speaker 2: like how many shows you been to? Not that many? 1103 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? Really? Yeah? 1104 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 2: She said my name is the National show. 1105 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 1: I had dinner with them the. 1106 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 2: Night before and then oh wow, yeah it was pretty Uh, 1107 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 2: it's pretty amazing. 1108 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: Let's do this because we do this on the show. 1109 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,399 Speaker 1: Biggest name dropper story, because I don't know if it's 1110 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 1: bigger than Bono, So I'm gonna I'm gonna that one 1111 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 1: does not count because I'd like to hear more about that. 1112 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,760 Speaker 1: But let's take Bono out of the minutes. Yeah, biggest 1113 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 1: name dropper story. 1114 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 2: Gosh, man, I mean I don't have that many famous. 1115 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 1: Like, no, the cool you do you have to I 1116 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 1: have cool one. I mean, give me like one of yours. 1117 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 1: Let me think about it for saying like, okay, I'll 1118 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,279 Speaker 1: give you as you think about it. So see I 1119 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,360 Speaker 1: went to it. Yeah, I don't care. I talked about it. 1120 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 1: I went to Augusta with John Legend. Yeah, and we 1121 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 1: you know, there were four of us. Wow, And it 1122 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 1: was me, Andy Roddick, John Legend and another buddy. But 1123 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: we just we deserve two days hanging out watching golf. 1124 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,439 Speaker 1: And I was and I don't I mentioned it because 1125 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 1: I don't lie, but it's that's a pretty cool. And 1126 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 1: we sat around the house for two days hanging out. 1127 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 2: I had a glass of wine with Phil Michelson one 1128 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,879 Speaker 2: time with the you know, golf at saw At then 1129 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 2: and that's not that's not cool. I know. 1130 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning's a friend. That's cool friend. 1131 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 2: I went fishing. I went fishing all day long with 1132 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 2: Peyton Manning up in the northern uh Canada the British Columbia. 1133 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 2: We fished for like gigantic fish for half the day. 1134 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 2: So that'd be my biggest probably what's Manning like? He's 1135 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 2: totally cool? Yes, So he's just like the guy on 1136 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 2: the Papa John's commercial. Man He's like laid back and 1137 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 2: funny and good stories and easy to be around. 1138 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 1: And I had dinner with Eli once. Yeah, at Peyton 1139 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 1: super Bowl, which one in Miami. I went Archie Eli 1140 00:45:55,920 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 1: and and uh Cooper, Yeah, because Peyton was playing. Yeah, 1141 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,240 Speaker 1: and so we went and had dinner the night before. 1142 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:06,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1143 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 1: And I just remember Eli being so big and like 1144 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,399 Speaker 1: he doesn't look big on TV. Is big monsters? I mean, 1145 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 1: Peyton's a monster. Peyton so and. 1146 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 2: We I actually watched the very first game of the 1147 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 2: year this last year with Peyton in a sweet in 1148 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 2: Denver and we were watching it was Uh. 1149 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 1: So you guys are real friend, like you would call Peyton? 1150 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I texted the moment. Yeah. 1151 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,840 Speaker 1: Do you still get nervous texting him? No, like like 1152 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,319 Speaker 1: he's gonna judge you, Like your text has to be 1153 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 1: right on. No, No, I do know. I know because 1154 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:35,760 Speaker 1: there are a coupleple I feel like that with them. 1155 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 2: Like right timing don't do too often? 1156 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not too late. And do you respond to 1157 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 1: their text there? You know, do you respond right back 1158 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,320 Speaker 1: right away or do you give it a second? 1159 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 2: Or are you respond knowing that I can respond back. 1160 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 2: That's okay because you're kind of in fearor in this relationship. 1161 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: That's a funny one though, Like who do you have that? Really? 1162 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:53,920 Speaker 1: Because I can tell your mind too, like who do 1163 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 1: you have that relationship with where it's like I have 1164 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:57,240 Speaker 1: their number, well. 1165 00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 2: Certainly with him with with with Bono, I like I 1166 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,880 Speaker 2: I texted him, I used to like, that's another one, 1167 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,919 Speaker 2: like I tryed to I kind of manifested that meeting 1168 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 2: him because I used to like carry. I saw him 1169 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 2: plolling time in all places in Hawaii. 1170 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,479 Speaker 1: I finished, and he went saw Pearl jam and and 1171 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 1: YouTube together in Hawaii with the same show. 1172 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 2: That show. Yeah, yeah, it's in two thousand and seven, 1173 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 2: and I had I had a CD in my back 1174 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,320 Speaker 2: in my jeans because I was like, I know, I'm 1175 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:22,839 Speaker 2: to pitch in this song because I want to get 1176 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 2: what you wanted to pitch a song I wanted to 1177 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 2: sing sing on my record. Yeah, And I finally made that. 1178 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,839 Speaker 2: I actually finally Uh there's a song on my last 1179 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,920 Speaker 2: record called Here on Earth. And I sent to him 1180 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,319 Speaker 2: and he wrote back, this is a you know, he's 1181 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 2: one of those guys that can just say, like in 1182 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,640 Speaker 2: three lines, every line is look so profound, it's like 1183 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 2: so well written and just he's on a different level. 1184 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 2: And I, uh, of course emailed back this long thing. 1185 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 1: But hey, we're coming to Ireland, go. 1186 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 2: To go to go to a pub and some all 1187 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 2: this stuff beers and stuff. Yeah, I didn't get that response, 1188 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 2: but he's I think he's pretty busy. But uh yeah, 1189 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:55,319 Speaker 2: those I know what you're talking about. 1190 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 1: Give me give me one more because it's like you 1191 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,840 Speaker 1: have to look at the time on your clock. You're like, okay, 1192 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 1: you figure is he didn't do with his family? Will 1193 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 1: the text bothers in with his family? 1194 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:04,759 Speaker 3: Is? 1195 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 1: Does he even want to hear from me? 1196 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:11,439 Speaker 2: I know, like like, yeah, we're just talking with We're 1197 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,239 Speaker 2: just talking about family supper on the road yesterday. But 1198 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,799 Speaker 2: Steve Missmer our drummer, He's like, I think I've kind 1199 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,280 Speaker 2: of fangirled James Neil. 1200 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:18,799 Speaker 1: A little too much. 1201 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 2: Who's the hockey player for the Threads. He's like, yeah, 1202 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 2: I'm kind of like I don't know him that well. 1203 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 2: And I keep texting him like game, game, You're so awesome, 1204 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 2: and he's like, I think I got to back off 1205 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:30,880 Speaker 2: a little bit. I was like, yeah, let me text him. 1206 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,399 Speaker 2: Texted me like he wrote me back with a yeah, 1207 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 2: everyone is guilty of that's a little bit. But I 1208 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 2: can't think of Youah, nobody else you can add it 1209 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 2: at you. No, I'm trying to man, I'm I'm terrible 1210 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 2: text me. I've been like, off, I bought a foot phone. 1211 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 2: I love iPhones and I love Apple and that we 1212 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 2: live for him. But I'm like, that's why I'm saying much. 1213 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 2: I love your show, Like this is such a gredia 1214 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,919 Speaker 2: of this podcast because I'm I'm oh, oh good. 1215 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 1: No. 1216 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 2: I've been like trying to do like one day week 1217 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 2: where I'm just on my foot phone for the whole 1218 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 2: day and it's so hard. But it's just like I 1219 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:03,719 Speaker 2: am so over. 1220 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:05,239 Speaker 1: You know. 1221 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 2: It's a love hay relationship with the technology texting and 1222 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 2: I text so many people, but like that's not really 1223 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 2: is that really? I maybe we're keeping up, but is 1224 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,479 Speaker 2: that really I'd really have an hour conversation with somebody 1225 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:15,360 Speaker 2: and have like a real conversation. 1226 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,800 Speaker 1: But is it better than nothing? Because at the pace 1227 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,719 Speaker 1: that you're going, people always go out. 1228 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 2: Phones or in the airphones. 1229 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 1: One if our phones are actually keeping us to people 1230 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 1: that we would never talk to, it's true, but I do. 1231 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,279 Speaker 2: So I have kids now too, though, So I know 1232 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,440 Speaker 2: there's guys out there in Silicon Valley. There are geniuses. 1233 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 2: It's been their whole lives thinking about it. How could 1234 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 2: I make an eight year old completely addicted to this device. 1235 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,280 Speaker 2: And these are smart, smart people working with unlimited funds 1236 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 2: and on their coding all the time. And my daughter 1237 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 2: gets on an iPad and it's completely hooked to some 1238 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,839 Speaker 2: game and she's just an experiment to these people. Same 1239 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,840 Speaker 2: as Instagram, the stuff they got going on where you 1240 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 2: try to keep the streak alive. You know, how many 1241 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,840 Speaker 2: days in a row have you texted this you know whatever, Instagram, 1242 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 2: this person. It's like it's all geared towards we're We 1243 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,719 Speaker 2: grew up without this stuff, so brains have a chance 1244 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 2: to function. But when you see it through your kids 1245 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,880 Speaker 2: and how it's just not right. Man. So I have 1246 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 2: to leave. By example, if I have my phone out, 1247 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 2: it just takes once a bunch of times for your 1248 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 2: kid to go dad. You know, so sorry, you just 1249 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,799 Speaker 2: feel like the worst person. So I don't even take 1250 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 2: that phone in the house, Like I just I'm all, 1251 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 2: I have a flip phone. My wife has the number, 1252 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,280 Speaker 2: Mary has the number, and it's like if anyone needs 1253 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 2: me and my wife, you know, they can get touched me. 1254 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 2: But it's the freedom is unbelievable. But yeah, as far 1255 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,320 Speaker 2: as friends go, you know, I've been emailing more. I 1256 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,839 Speaker 2: just like I am better off an email. I'll write 1257 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 2: longer emails to do it through that because I gotta 1258 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,640 Speaker 2: sit down and not just constantly just like on that 1259 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 2: thing and try to crazy. Do your kids do they 1260 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:40,879 Speaker 2: to bring it today? I'm mean to bring my flip phone, 1261 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:41,360 Speaker 2: but I forgot it. 1262 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 1: They dourchases like where they buy the things inside the game, 1263 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:44,799 Speaker 1: and then you get the billing. 1264 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,200 Speaker 2: You're like, whoa. And then they don't do iPads. They 1265 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,000 Speaker 2: only get iPads on the weekends and not that much. 1266 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 2: But Bill, everything has to come through me, so I'll 1267 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 2: have to prove whatever she gets. 1268 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 1: There's no buying anything. It's just these little. 1269 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,359 Speaker 2: Games they buy they get for free that these people 1270 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 2: out there up and then they they want to buy 1271 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 2: a stuff inside of it. We don't do an that, 1272 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 2: but it's scary, man. I hate it. I hate it 1273 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 2: for kids. I grew up in the place we. 1274 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,440 Speaker 1: Had the same thing, though our parents were thinking us like, 1275 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,800 Speaker 1: look at these guys. They're cordless phones. Different, but it's different. 1276 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,520 Speaker 1: It's just like the music and everybody's like, well the 1277 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 1: music is different now. 1278 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,759 Speaker 2: But with the phone, man of technology wasn't changing every day, 1279 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,360 Speaker 2: every single day, they're doing software updates on your phone 1280 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 2: to make it more addictive every day. Those guys, right now, 1281 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 2: you're you're not Bobby Bones your experimental five six seventies. 1282 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:33,279 Speaker 1: This dude, like everybody buying your record, and so is 1283 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,799 Speaker 1: everybody that's streaming your music. They are too. We're all 1284 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,919 Speaker 1: looking at data from everything else and creating our own 1285 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 1: lives from No. 1286 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 2: But man, I don't know that's I just that's why 1287 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,319 Speaker 2: I love this podcast. I feel like it's just so 1288 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,440 Speaker 2: much better than being out the texting man. 1289 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 1: And did you listen to the Ross Copper whole thing? 1290 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1291 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,359 Speaker 1: That is funny. I like that, dud. 1292 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,839 Speaker 2: I love I learned. I learned more about Ross from 1293 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 2: your podcast and I and I've known Ross now since, 1294 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 2: you know, since I got Tipping on back. I mean, 1295 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,360 Speaker 2: I learned more from that that interview. It's great. I 1296 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:06,640 Speaker 2: mean that's what I've been doing in my truck now 1297 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,120 Speaker 2: is just driving and listening to your podcast and talking 1298 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,359 Speaker 2: about Tim Ferriss and some other people. It's like, it's 1299 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,280 Speaker 2: such I need to retool my brain because it's getting 1300 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,640 Speaker 2: it's bad, especially if you're a musician on the road. 1301 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,920 Speaker 2: I mean the damn iPhone. It's just like you. We 1302 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,960 Speaker 2: have a a funny Instagram hashtag called band band members 1303 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,040 Speaker 2: on phones, and it's just like I took one the 1304 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 2: other day from it. We're up with this beautiful landscape 1305 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,920 Speaker 2: in the middle of South Dakota and the Black Hills 1306 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,160 Speaker 2: and taking a self timer shot and two my guys. 1307 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,480 Speaker 1: Are on their phone. 1308 00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 2: It's like looking around for one second, but it's just 1309 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,320 Speaker 2: you know, you're eating dinner catering and just like, but think. 1310 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 1: Of all the relationships because of that. 1311 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,279 Speaker 2: Derek Jeters dating Madonna, that's so cool to you. It's like, 1312 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:49,680 Speaker 2: you know, I know stuff. I don't want to know 1313 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,680 Speaker 2: it not anybody else. I don't want to know what 1314 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,080 Speaker 2: is going on. I want to know, like what's happening 1315 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:55,799 Speaker 2: to people that I care about, So I don't know. 1316 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,279 Speaker 2: I got to My relationship with technology is really it's 1317 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 2: something has to be been haane all the time. 1318 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,200 Speaker 1: Especially once you get kids. It really is like that's 1319 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,200 Speaker 1: a different story. I can't argue about the kids I have. 1320 00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,360 Speaker 2: Any kids, you don't want them on it, dude, especially girls. 1321 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,759 Speaker 2: It's just I don't think it's a fair medium for 1322 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 2: girls in general. 1323 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:12,840 Speaker 1: All the dating apps and stuff. 1324 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,960 Speaker 3: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor. 1325 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,640 Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Bobby Cast. 1326 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 1: Who else, let's stay out of the format, Yeah, because 1327 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:31,879 Speaker 1: you get into a little mess here when you go, Okay, 1328 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:33,200 Speaker 1: who do you look? Who else do you listen to? 1329 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:34,279 Speaker 1: Out of the force? So you love you too? Who 1330 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:34,799 Speaker 1: else you like? 1331 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,759 Speaker 2: I mean Bruno mars Is, He's unbelievable. 1332 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:40,400 Speaker 1: Why is he unbelievable to you? 1333 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 2: He just has more talent? I mean for performance wives, 1334 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:46,879 Speaker 2: the guy just has. 1335 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:47,960 Speaker 1: He's just so good. 1336 00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,560 Speaker 2: You know, the rest of us have there those country 1337 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,480 Speaker 2: singers up on stage with out our guitars and doing stuff. 1338 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,200 Speaker 2: You know, I'm trying to feel the flow of the song. 1339 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 2: He's just like in it's pinky just he has more 1340 00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,440 Speaker 2: moves right there than the rest of us have. Like, 1341 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,280 Speaker 2: this guy's got it, man, and his songs are so good. 1342 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,760 Speaker 1: Man. There was a time he came into our show 1343 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,800 Speaker 1: six years ago, right and so not talking about that. 1344 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,600 Speaker 1: He was doing the bit where he could do any 1345 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,359 Speaker 1: song period. He was like his name is song and 1346 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,440 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I the tiger and he plays 1347 00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,120 Speaker 1: the tiger. He's like what else? So he's a jew box, 1348 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 1: jew box and he did uh Tina Turner. He was 1349 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 1: just nailing, and I was like, dude, what's what he's like. Well, 1350 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,440 Speaker 1: because he grew up in a family bands. He was 1351 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 1: like the youngest kid and they were like all his 1352 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:35,600 Speaker 1: whole family, they were all the band. He was like, 1353 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,279 Speaker 1: they were like an Elvis impersonators, and so he had 1354 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,719 Speaker 1: all the skill set and he's also super good and 1355 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,920 Speaker 1: super smart. And he's like, did you do the Disney's 1356 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:46,040 Speaker 1: school stuff? 1357 00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:47,480 Speaker 2: You go through that like that? 1358 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 1: No, I don't think he was one of the one 1359 00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,840 Speaker 1: of his kids was just there's a video if you 1360 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,160 Speaker 1: google Bruno Mars from The Bobby Bone Show. He crushes. 1361 00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,799 Speaker 1: He did, Michael Jackson, he did like Billy Jean. 1362 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,560 Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, yeah, and. 1363 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,719 Speaker 1: So he's playing with She was more like, he's just 1364 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,640 Speaker 1: crushing every song. So good. He's just it. 1365 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,239 Speaker 2: He's just got that thing, man. 1366 00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:12,960 Speaker 1: And now he's a superstar. 1367 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:14,480 Speaker 2: He is a superstar. 1368 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,400 Speaker 1: It's fun to watch, like though, it's even fun to 1369 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,200 Speaker 1: watch it now here in the country world to watch 1370 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,440 Speaker 1: and actually like be a part of people's careers and 1371 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,520 Speaker 1: see them go from just somebody who's getting a deal 1372 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,600 Speaker 1: or somebody who had doesn't have a dell yet, like, 1373 00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,000 Speaker 1: you know, one of my first people here that I 1374 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,160 Speaker 1: actually met, and she was just a kid, it was Kelsey, 1375 00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:34,479 Speaker 1: ye know. I remember her being. 1376 00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,000 Speaker 2: On her show singing an acoustic version of the girl 1377 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 2: Crush or something. 1378 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe she was on the tour every week. 1379 00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,400 Speaker 1: I mean, she didn't mount a song, but I just 1380 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:43,800 Speaker 1: remember talking to her and she was she had a 1381 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,200 Speaker 1: publisher deal. And it's been cool to watch on these 1382 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,759 Speaker 1: artists like Grow and she's you know, got four number 1383 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,680 Speaker 1: ones now and it's like it's like now she's a star. 1384 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:53,960 Speaker 1: But you've been able to see, so who did you 1385 00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,680 Speaker 1: see early on where you're like, oh, man, like I'm 1386 00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,680 Speaker 1: not even that I wasn't that good when I started 1387 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:00,279 Speaker 1: in there going to be. 1388 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,839 Speaker 2: I mean, all these guys, I feel like Thomas Rhett, uh, 1389 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,880 Speaker 2: you know, he just has like man, I mean I 1390 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,640 Speaker 2: got my deal. I was twenty six, twenty seven. I'm 1391 00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,759 Speaker 2: such a late bloomber. I didn't have anything really figured out. 1392 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,040 Speaker 2: And even when I got married and was just out 1393 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,760 Speaker 2: there on the road and like trying to like grapple 1394 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:20,520 Speaker 2: with like how to make these things all work. These 1395 00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,480 Speaker 2: guys make it look so effortlessly I mean Thomas with 1396 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,319 Speaker 2: and Lauren and he's balancing, he's he's got to go on. 1397 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,239 Speaker 2: I want I went actually got him saying them the 1398 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:30,640 Speaker 2: night when he played down here at the Sand and 1399 00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,520 Speaker 2: after the game, right like yeah breads, yeah, and uh, 1400 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,600 Speaker 2: he's just got the shows tight. He's so good up there. 1401 00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:38,960 Speaker 2: He's he just knows what he's doing. And his personal 1402 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 2: life as well is really like balanced and it's integrated 1403 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,440 Speaker 2: into his like is uh his career and he just 1404 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,399 Speaker 2: he's got a lot. He's way away for the head 1405 00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:52,200 Speaker 2: that I was like mentally developed as far at that age. 1406 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,000 Speaker 1: I remember last year he played iHeart Country Festival, and 1407 00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:57,440 Speaker 1: I've seen him because I don't get to see a 1408 00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,000 Speaker 1: lot of you guys on the road because you're also 1409 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,080 Speaker 1: out on the road, yeah, or like I'm just tired 1410 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:03,400 Speaker 1: and it's like what am I going to do to 1411 00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,640 Speaker 1: travel to New Hampshire to watch you guys play? Yeah, 1412 00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:07,440 Speaker 1: Like I just watched you go over to the house 1413 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,400 Speaker 1: Like yeah, it's so I don't get to see shows 1414 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:10,960 Speaker 1: that often. 1415 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 2: And that's not that's kind of a that's like a 1416 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:14,400 Speaker 2: televised kind of situation. 1417 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,600 Speaker 1: It is. Yeah, But he played a full set and 1418 00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,080 Speaker 1: haven't and I hadn't seen Tiarn forever, right, So it 1419 00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:20,640 Speaker 1: was so I went up to mafter the show and 1420 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,680 Speaker 1: I was like, dude, like it. It was next level. 1421 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,400 Speaker 1: He had grown so much. Yeah, and it was so 1422 00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:30,400 Speaker 1: freaking good. Yeah, he did, you know. It was like 1423 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,200 Speaker 1: kids do the darnest things, is what I told him. 1424 00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:33,520 Speaker 1: It was like that show. It was like it's like 1425 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,640 Speaker 1: I watched a kid. Yeah, just like grow up. 1426 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,400 Speaker 2: We I was with him when he really was making 1427 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,480 Speaker 2: this transfer which he recently made with his music from 1428 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:44,520 Speaker 2: Fear at Jesus and some of the you know, kind 1429 00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,640 Speaker 2: of breaking away. Were on the road together and he 1430 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,240 Speaker 2: was talking about as new record and he's talking about 1431 00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:50,120 Speaker 2: he was I mean, he was nervous. 1432 00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:50,240 Speaker 1: Man. 1433 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,280 Speaker 2: I think he's about to have a nervous breakdowns. He really 1434 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,479 Speaker 2: was going for a different sound and just trying different stuff. 1435 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,640 Speaker 2: And a lot of people, you know, transfer away from 1436 00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,160 Speaker 2: kind of the the thing he was doing, the Georgia 1437 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,760 Speaker 2: Boy stuff and of this person he is now, and 1438 00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 2: a lot of haters, you know, hating on him for 1439 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,400 Speaker 2: the things he was going for. And I was always 1440 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,560 Speaker 2: so supportive because he really was going for his His 1441 00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,280 Speaker 2: goal is high. He's not going for just he wants 1442 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,560 Speaker 2: to he's competitive and he wants to take down to 1443 00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,160 Speaker 2: take down the top guys who are in his same 1444 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:20,120 Speaker 2: you know league, and there is his same crew. And 1445 00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:21,680 Speaker 2: he's like, I look that I got this one song 1446 00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,040 Speaker 2: that's a love song. I think it's only thing that's 1447 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:24,520 Speaker 2: gonna save me in this album. Is no one's like 1448 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:25,880 Speaker 2: this album I will be terrible, But I got this 1449 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:27,960 Speaker 2: one song is a love song, and we'll see how 1450 00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:29,960 Speaker 2: it goes. And it was of course die happy man, 1451 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 2: and it's gotta change everything. He's dialing on it. Man, 1452 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 2: It's fun to watch him like just keep getting it 1453 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:37,040 Speaker 2: more and more figured out who he is and what 1454 00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:37,600 Speaker 2: he wants to do. 1455 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:39,360 Speaker 1: What was that for you? What was the song that 1456 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,040 Speaker 1: were you kind of switching up for You're like, oh boy, 1457 00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:42,480 Speaker 1: we're a different playing field now. 1458 00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,880 Speaker 2: As man, I think my career is so different than 1459 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,120 Speaker 2: anyone else. As I know it's it's just been so 1460 00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,000 Speaker 2: such a long slow What. 1461 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,200 Speaker 1: Comes to mind where you're like, I'll be a plane 1462 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:57,200 Speaker 1: changed a lot for me. Uh, I'm getting drunk on playing. 1463 00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:03,080 Speaker 2: I mean the biggest song had a big like, you know, bang, 1464 00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,120 Speaker 2: the most important song in my whole career and I 1465 00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:07,640 Speaker 2: stay every night when I'm on stage is as I 1466 00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,480 Speaker 2: Hold On. That's a song that like connects the most of. 1467 00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 1: The whole, the most personal song for me. 1468 00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,680 Speaker 2: I wrote rap my dad passed away and the audience, man, 1469 00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,640 Speaker 2: those it's it's a song in the. 1470 00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:20,840 Speaker 1: Show where like we're going to party. 1471 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,040 Speaker 2: Thing's fun, it's awesome, we're all funy connected because we're 1472 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,200 Speaker 2: all having so much fun, and throw a party. This 1473 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,120 Speaker 2: song I play it, it's just like it loses in 1474 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,800 Speaker 2: a different direction. It's it's it's more as like this 1475 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,439 Speaker 2: instead of this. It's like we just come together over 1476 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,560 Speaker 2: the shared sentiment of wolding onto things that means something 1477 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,760 Speaker 2: to you. And that's the most important song. 1478 00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,520 Speaker 1: Important, but not the one you felt flipped you like, 1479 00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,120 Speaker 1: oh boy, this is it. I remember the day Drunk 1480 00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:47,560 Speaker 1: on a Plane, like I heard of the first time. Yeah, 1481 00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:49,880 Speaker 1: you brought it into the studio it hadn't been played yet, 1482 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,080 Speaker 1: and and you were like, I want you to hear 1483 00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:52,280 Speaker 1: a song. I was like, this is a real song, 1484 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,440 Speaker 1: drunk on a Plane. I thought you were messing with me. 1485 00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I almost didn't even put it on the record. 1486 00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:59,560 Speaker 1: Who makes that call then to put it on the 1487 00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,320 Speaker 1: record just you know, I'm so. 1488 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:04,920 Speaker 2: Everyone I work with there's such an open communication. If 1489 01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,600 Speaker 2: I like even the label with Mike and sending everyone 1490 01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,360 Speaker 2: capital if if I have doubts about something, they don't 1491 01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,600 Speaker 2: immediately jump on that new set to promote their genda. 1492 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:14,080 Speaker 1: Everyone just is like cool. 1493 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:15,880 Speaker 2: We all work out together and work with Mary and 1494 01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,000 Speaker 2: we just kind of like and our tour and my 1495 01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,920 Speaker 2: executive producer and Ross and just okay, let's put it 1496 01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:22,360 Speaker 2: on there, you know. 1497 01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:24,040 Speaker 1: But then to make it a stingle, are you talking 1498 01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:25,640 Speaker 1: about like complete leftist center? 1499 01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:30,760 Speaker 2: No? No, I remember, like that's all will never work, man, 1500 01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,840 Speaker 2: rednecks don't fly like I don't know. I don't know 1501 01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:35,200 Speaker 2: if it will work either, but it's it's I'm a 1502 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 2: pilot and I love you know. At the time, it 1503 01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,960 Speaker 2: was empty drinks and it was it was, but it 1504 01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:42,200 Speaker 2: is a huge song for me, for sure. 1505 01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,640 Speaker 1: It was an it was a monster. Yeah, and then 1506 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:49,120 Speaker 1: it flew up the charts. Yeah, it's big. I remember 1507 01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:50,640 Speaker 1: the day it came on the radio. We did a 1508 01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,000 Speaker 1: debut like a world mirra and it played all day 1509 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,400 Speaker 1: long and I won't say it is, but I was like, man, 1510 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,080 Speaker 1: this sounds really good, right because I like things that 1511 01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,720 Speaker 1: are different. Yeah, I don't. I like taking a big 1512 01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:03,200 Speaker 1: chance and hitting home runs more so than being consistent 1513 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,919 Speaker 1: and just you know, having that three hundred batting average. Yeah, 1514 01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 1: so it came out. I was like, man, I love 1515 01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,280 Speaker 1: the song because this is not like anything else. 1516 01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:09,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1517 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:11,680 Speaker 1: That one of our radio gups was a big radio guy. 1518 01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:12,440 Speaker 1: He was like, this suck. 1519 01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:12,840 Speaker 2: Sucks. 1520 01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,160 Speaker 1: It was like, this is never gonna work. It's too weird. No, 1521 01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,800 Speaker 1: it's not. He obviously it wasn't right because but like, 1522 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:21,200 Speaker 1: I love this song. You know what song I love 1523 01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,880 Speaker 1: yours it didn't work for you was Bourbon in Kentucky, Yeah, 1524 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,760 Speaker 1: with you and Casey. I loved that song too. 1525 01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,720 Speaker 2: That album cycle was so fun except put up Bourbon 1526 01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,240 Speaker 2: it didn't work, pulled it back, put out I Hold On, 1527 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,360 Speaker 2: which probably you know was a huge song for me. 1528 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,160 Speaker 2: Then Drunk on a Plane, which was obviously the biggest 1529 01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,520 Speaker 2: song off that album. But Bourbon, it was a great 1530 01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:42,640 Speaker 2: song that Hillary Lindsay wrote, and I just I love 1531 01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,800 Speaker 2: that song. And I had to call her up. She's 1532 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:46,400 Speaker 2: down to Orange Beach. She had a few drinks and 1533 01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:47,880 Speaker 2: I was like hey, She's like, Hey, what are you doing. 1534 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,600 Speaker 2: I was like you're not gonna believe this, but we're 1535 01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,400 Speaker 2: pulling that song. And she was like so confused. She's 1536 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:55,960 Speaker 2: just like I thought the next time I heard from 1537 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:57,520 Speaker 2: you would be like the number one party. I'm like, 1538 01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,600 Speaker 2: I have never had a pull song for my life. 1539 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,680 Speaker 2: But it's the middle of summer and I'm getting all 1540 01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,280 Speaker 2: his feedback that the song's too dark and that's why 1541 01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,040 Speaker 2: I loved it, though I know, I know I love 1542 01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:11,480 Speaker 2: it too, and I just everyone's everyone around. He was like, 1543 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:12,960 Speaker 2: it's just not going to work, and you can either 1544 01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,240 Speaker 2: work it for thirty weeks and have it die in 1545 01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:18,680 Speaker 2: the thirties or make a change. Now it's the first 1546 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:20,840 Speaker 2: song off the record, and I hate that. It was 1547 01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:25,040 Speaker 2: a great tune, but yeah, just that's what happens sometimes. 1548 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,200 Speaker 1: What for you, because the artist will come in and say, hey, 1549 01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,360 Speaker 1: this is like, for example, I think, who was it? 1550 01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:35,120 Speaker 1: My American kids like Kenny cut a little Big Town 1551 01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:40,680 Speaker 1: had it yeah, and Kenny cut it yeah, and so no, no, 1552 01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,120 Speaker 1: Kenny had it. Wait, yeah, a little bit TWN had it. Yeah, 1553 01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,200 Speaker 1: a little bit Gun had it. Yeah. Shane was telling 1554 01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:46,880 Speaker 1: the story. Okay, now it's all sorts of yeah, a 1555 01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:52,040 Speaker 1: little Shane had it. He's on a flight and uh, 1556 01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,160 Speaker 1: he's on a flight with Kenned. He plays his song 1557 01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,200 Speaker 1: for kick. He's like, I gotta have the song, but 1558 01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:57,680 Speaker 1: Shane's like, I'm too scared to tell him a little 1559 01:02:57,680 --> 01:02:59,480 Speaker 1: bit toown's already cut it. Yeah, so he has to 1560 01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:01,320 Speaker 1: call I have to call a little big down. Kenny 1561 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:02,840 Speaker 1: Cat said like, I would love to have this song, 1562 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,200 Speaker 1: and she's like and Kenny's like, I want to make 1563 01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,680 Speaker 1: this the single, yeah, and he's like, it's up to you, guy, 1564 01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,440 Speaker 1: it's your song. You've already started paying, you're tracking it. 1565 01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:14,880 Speaker 1: And so a little big town gave the song American 1566 01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,240 Speaker 1: Kids to Kenny. Yeah. So a lot of people came 1567 01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:19,920 Speaker 1: up with stories like man, I had this song and 1568 01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:21,600 Speaker 1: then I was like, yeah, last minute, I let it go. 1569 01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,080 Speaker 2: I have a bunch of songs that like I heard 1570 01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,520 Speaker 2: and I because the main thing if you're picking singles 1571 01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,360 Speaker 2: you gotta pick are picking songs. You gotta pick songs 1572 01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,520 Speaker 2: that are hits, but also their hits for you, and 1573 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,520 Speaker 2: that's that's that's how you get the big hits out 1574 01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:36,000 Speaker 2: of the park. And I hit three hundreds when he 1575 01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,640 Speaker 2: picked singles that are like made for you, you think 1576 01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:40,960 Speaker 2: the songs like Don't Close Your Eyes by Keith Whitley, 1577 01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,800 Speaker 2: songs that like We're Just as a singer was made 1578 01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,880 Speaker 2: for that song John Party song during My Boots. I 1579 01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,080 Speaker 2: heard that song. I think before he you know, before 1580 01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:50,640 Speaker 2: he cut it, And what did you think when you 1581 01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:50,960 Speaker 2: heard it? 1582 01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:51,840 Speaker 1: Huge hit? 1583 01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,080 Speaker 2: This is a monster, this is a huge song. There's 1584 01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,080 Speaker 2: a lying there about a tractor, you know, and I 1585 01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,480 Speaker 2: was like that, just I don't have that tractor factor, 1586 01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:00,960 Speaker 2: you know, I don't have that thing. It's not what 1587 01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:02,760 Speaker 2: I do. So like, I can either try to change 1588 01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:04,840 Speaker 2: this song up to make it work for me, or 1589 01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:06,440 Speaker 2: just let it go and help those guys, you know. 1590 01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:10,120 Speaker 2: I want the songwriters. I want them to find for songwriters, man, 1591 01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:12,480 Speaker 2: they might get one or two great Well, these guys 1592 01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,400 Speaker 2: they probably get five great songs a year. 1593 01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:14,640 Speaker 1: Right. 1594 01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,520 Speaker 2: I don't want to stand in away someone's like baby 1595 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,840 Speaker 2: and tied up, because that's the way Nationville used to be. 1596 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,840 Speaker 2: People to hold songs for like years, you know, hold 1597 01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,040 Speaker 2: thirty forty songs for the record, and the hold was 1598 01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:29,800 Speaker 2: respected nowadays as it should be. It's not like you 1599 01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:31,640 Speaker 2: either cut it or you don't. And if you're you know, 1600 01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,560 Speaker 2: you're taking your time I'm gonna pitch it to somebody 1601 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:35,080 Speaker 2: else and get them to cut it. You know, songwriters 1602 01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:36,600 Speaker 2: have more power now, I think than they did back 1603 01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:41,800 Speaker 2: in the late nineties. But so that song Whiskey Lullaby 1604 01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:44,320 Speaker 2: is a song that came that I that I that's 1605 01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:45,920 Speaker 2: a good herd And I was like, ah, and then 1606 01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:47,720 Speaker 2: and why why not that one? 1607 01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:47,800 Speaker 1: What? 1608 01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:51,440 Speaker 2: What? What? That? I just uh, I don't know just what, 1609 01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:52,800 Speaker 2: you know. I didn't hear it as a duet that 1610 01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:56,240 Speaker 2: the way Brad heard it, which is genius. It just 1611 01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,120 Speaker 2: wasn't I don't know. I just didn't have it, didn't 1612 01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:00,480 Speaker 2: do it, didn't do something for me. I don't know 1613 01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:02,040 Speaker 2: what it was. But there's that happens all the time. 1614 01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:03,960 Speaker 2: But for me, it's I ever go, oh my gosh, 1615 01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:07,240 Speaker 2: I'm kicking myself. I'm always like, I'm happy for that 1616 01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:09,240 Speaker 2: that song found the right home and made its way. 1617 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:10,680 Speaker 2: There's there's always another song out there. 1618 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,120 Speaker 1: Who have you heard the opposite where you got this long? 1619 01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,200 Speaker 1: Because somebody else was like, no, made a hit and 1620 01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:17,880 Speaker 1: they have to be Oh man, No, somewhere on the 1621 01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:19,640 Speaker 1: beach was a big deal. It really was. 1622 01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:25,640 Speaker 2: Man, that was like, uh, yeah, I had this song 1623 01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,800 Speaker 2: on hold, and there's five guys that wrote that song, 1624 01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:30,240 Speaker 2: and there's a lot of people wanted that song, and 1625 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:35,560 Speaker 2: I just, uh, who wanted it got wrote one of 1626 01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,080 Speaker 2: those the writers of the song. I'm totally drawing a 1627 01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,400 Speaker 2: blank right now my brain is what happens when you're 1628 01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,520 Speaker 2: on the road for three day straight. But well, actually, 1629 01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:44,680 Speaker 2: Michael Knox, I think I think Michael Knox wanted it 1630 01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:46,080 Speaker 2: for one of his artis is what it was. And 1631 01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,960 Speaker 2: we kept saying our tour. I Luckily I don't to 1632 01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,560 Speaker 2: fight those battles. My one of my producers really goes 1633 01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:54,560 Speaker 2: in the trenches for that stuff. And it worked out 1634 01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:56,400 Speaker 2: as a big hit for for me and it helps 1635 01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:57,920 Speaker 2: them go on the road and kind of have a 1636 01:05:57,960 --> 01:05:59,200 Speaker 2: song talk about. But at the same time, I know 1637 01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,280 Speaker 2: it's to be tough when you're a new artist. You know, 1638 01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:03,680 Speaker 2: a big song that it's different, you can kind of 1639 01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:07,240 Speaker 2: set you apart from other people. But hopefully they're happy 1640 01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:07,920 Speaker 2: it was a big hit. 1641 01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:10,000 Speaker 1: You know, it's like lady, you know, Lady has you 1642 01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:14,440 Speaker 1: look good? And and that was Thomas Rhet's first that's 1643 01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,200 Speaker 1: his song and it was he didn't write it, he 1644 01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,320 Speaker 1: had it okay, and he was like he was gonna 1645 01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,600 Speaker 1: cut it. It's awesome the whole, I mean and the whole. 1646 01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,720 Speaker 1: But every artist does different things with it too. Yes, 1647 01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:24,560 Speaker 1: that's what we don't know too, Like, yeah, what are 1648 01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:26,560 Speaker 1: you going to do different about? Like Kenny's totally was 1649 01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:28,560 Speaker 1: like this beach vibe. Who knows how Little Big Tow 1650 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:30,640 Speaker 1: Wou'd cut it and tracked when what they would have 1651 01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:35,000 Speaker 1: had as a part of this song, and it's it's yeah, totally, 1652 01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:36,440 Speaker 1: it's you know, I think all you can do. 1653 01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:38,560 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just the business we're in and in 1654 01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,480 Speaker 2: life in general, is you have to like you cannot 1655 01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,800 Speaker 2: like hold like that you can. You got to be 1656 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,840 Speaker 2: have an attitude of gratitude and be thankful for what 1657 01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:48,800 Speaker 2: you got. And if something it's all meant to be, 1658 01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:52,240 Speaker 2: it's it's it's there's a reason why you didn't cut 1659 01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:53,880 Speaker 2: that song. There's just want someone else cut that song, 1660 01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:55,800 Speaker 2: and otherwise your drivers all crazy and you would be 1661 01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,360 Speaker 2: resentful and you're gonna be You're you're playing a small 1662 01:06:58,400 --> 01:06:59,920 Speaker 2: game and you should be playing a much bigger game 1663 01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:01,960 Speaker 2: where you're looking at a macro view of it, not 1664 01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:04,960 Speaker 2: just this micro like song song, song, song song. If 1665 01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,600 Speaker 2: you're you know that's not that's not the work. 1666 01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:09,360 Speaker 1: People trying to pitch you songs all the time. Not 1667 01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:12,320 Speaker 1: not your people and not people that are in your 1668 01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,600 Speaker 1: second tier. But like walking down the street people. 1669 01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:18,160 Speaker 2: I get stuff. Yeah, I get stuff, obviously it shows. 1670 01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,680 Speaker 2: And my email a dress A lot of people have 1671 01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:22,800 Speaker 2: email address. I get a lot of songs out there 1672 01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:24,160 Speaker 2: and that I try to listen to them. 1673 01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,280 Speaker 1: And but you do try to listen to them. Maybe. 1674 01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:28,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm pretty quick. I mean I can go 1675 01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:30,600 Speaker 2: seven eight seconds and know whether it's from me or not. 1676 01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:32,320 Speaker 2: It might be a great song, but it's not for me. 1677 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,160 Speaker 1: What about the legalities of it though? Because I have 1678 01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,160 Speaker 1: I write dumb songs right on the road. 1679 01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:39,640 Speaker 2: Is someone like hands me a CD, I don't touch it. 1680 01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:41,480 Speaker 2: It goes to Tom or Jr. 1681 01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,040 Speaker 1: One of my guys. And because you have songwriters insurance, 1682 01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:45,400 Speaker 1: because if I have to have it, you have it 1683 01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,960 Speaker 1: like crazy, right, you know, I don't know if I 1684 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,480 Speaker 1: have her, you for sure if they're if my business 1685 01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,800 Speaker 1: manager makes me have it, find out. 1686 01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:54,800 Speaker 2: I know, like talking to guys in the town that 1687 01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:57,000 Speaker 2: have it and they say it's pretty amazing. But I'll 1688 01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:58,120 Speaker 2: find out right now if but I have it, I 1689 01:07:58,160 --> 01:07:58,680 Speaker 2: don't think I do. 1690 01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,680 Speaker 1: And maybe my business man makes me have it because 1691 01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:03,800 Speaker 1: she knows I probably accidently still a song, but I'm 1692 01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:04,200 Speaker 1: not good. 1693 01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:07,080 Speaker 2: That's funny. 1694 01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:07,880 Speaker 1: You have to make sure. 1695 01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:09,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I find out right now. 1696 01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,000 Speaker 1: I definitely have it. Let's see here, let's run throw 1697 01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,480 Speaker 1: a couple more real quick. This is not a single, 1698 01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:16,439 Speaker 1: but love the song. My favorite songs on the record. 1699 01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:20,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to be the moon because Ryan's been 1700 01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:21,200 Speaker 1: in I. 1701 01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:24,320 Speaker 2: Just saw mayoron backstage and Thomas's show. I was like, 1702 01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:26,679 Speaker 2: kend leave you and tr have a song that together. 1703 01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:28,200 Speaker 2: I kind of ruins the chance it was to be 1704 01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,519 Speaker 2: a single. But I text Ryan all the time. You 1705 01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:35,200 Speaker 2: know I do have summer insurance. Yeah, there you go, Ryan, 1706 01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:37,880 Speaker 2: and you gonna keep up and uh, this is the 1707 01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:41,479 Speaker 2: best Song's been telling them for two years, like the 1708 01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:43,880 Speaker 2: song means, it's one of the best songs for her. 1709 01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:46,200 Speaker 1: It's such a unique like take on it and like 1710 01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:47,439 Speaker 1: you Almasim, for songs. 1711 01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:50,800 Speaker 2: Are different saying that way you haven't heard before. The 1712 01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:52,720 Speaker 2: idea of like I'll be the moon man, that guy 1713 01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:54,040 Speaker 2: can be the sun. He can be in your life 1714 01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,040 Speaker 2: during the daytime, but I'll be there with you at night. 1715 01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:57,960 Speaker 2: And that's such a good idea, and she kills it. 1716 01:08:58,080 --> 01:08:59,880 Speaker 2: She sings that they're part of There is so awesome 1717 01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:02,519 Speaker 2: and I wish it was a single. Maybe maybe, I 1718 01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:03,519 Speaker 2: don't know, but I don't think so. 1719 01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:05,479 Speaker 1: When the record came out, I love that song so much. 1720 01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:07,439 Speaker 1: You're America has sanging, I was like, you guess I 1721 01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:09,320 Speaker 1: sing it on the show, Like, yeah, I love the show. 1722 01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:10,160 Speaker 1: I love songs so much. 1723 01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:14,200 Speaker 2: Was I she's blown up obviously, Yeah, but yeah, she's 1724 01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:15,280 Speaker 2: relatively new at that point. 1725 01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:17,720 Speaker 1: Ryan, Ryan and I keep up. Yeah, I like that 1726 01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:19,200 Speaker 1: dude too. He's a good dude. 1727 01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:21,559 Speaker 2: I think we're gonna see at the stage Coach on Friday. 1728 01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:22,160 Speaker 2: So we got there. 1729 01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:27,439 Speaker 1: We're playing on Saturday. No man in early. Yeah, I 1730 01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,040 Speaker 1: am what are you? Are you working or just hanging? 1731 01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:33,080 Speaker 1: We're playing on Saturday night. What are you coming on Friday? 1732 01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:34,880 Speaker 1: We're just we're just have to get there early because 1733 01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,559 Speaker 1: it's such a big thing. You come in Friday night. Yeah, 1734 01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:41,720 Speaker 1: we'rek what time you playing? We're making Friday fifteen. So 1735 01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:43,320 Speaker 1: you're but you're the big You're the big name on 1736 01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:44,000 Speaker 1: the top of that thing. 1737 01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,760 Speaker 2: My third time, finally, it's not the top of the thing. 1738 01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,160 Speaker 2: That Stage Coach is a tough gig. The ideal gig 1739 01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:51,720 Speaker 2: is the one right before the last one, as it 1740 01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:55,439 Speaker 2: always is. Eight o'clock slot. Sun's still going down, they're 1741 01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:58,120 Speaker 2: still serving alcohol. People's buzzes are still kind of going 1742 01:09:58,200 --> 01:09:59,559 Speaker 2: up a little bit. They're in a good mood. Still 1743 01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,760 Speaker 2: ten fifth seen. You know, they're they're like almost hung over. 1744 01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:03,800 Speaker 2: At this point, you have to go out there and 1745 01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,280 Speaker 2: like just killed. You have to kick their ass. 1746 01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:09,120 Speaker 1: You're one of the big names. Like you learn three 1747 01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:12,960 Speaker 1: big names. It's Dirks Shanaya because that's who's our night, 1748 01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:15,280 Speaker 1: and then maybe it's Kenny. Yeah. 1749 01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:16,960 Speaker 2: The first time I played there was with it was 1750 01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:21,280 Speaker 2: Daylight and Taylor Swiftland before me. That was that says 1751 01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:22,479 Speaker 2: a lot. It was back in two thousand and seven, 1752 01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:25,240 Speaker 2: and I came back and opened for Miranda, and then 1753 01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:27,200 Speaker 2: this time we're finally headlining it. So look at that 1754 01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:28,760 Speaker 2: big deal, big night. 1755 01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:29,000 Speaker 3: Man. 1756 01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:29,679 Speaker 2: It's crazy. 1757 01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,280 Speaker 1: Stage Coaches is one of them. I've never been before. 1758 01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,360 Speaker 1: Played like six months ago. It's fun and we were like, Okay, 1759 01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:36,720 Speaker 1: weren't gonna play a bunch of each other. I'm just 1760 01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:39,240 Speaker 1: doing stand up. Yeah, it's and everybody's like, come do 1761 01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:40,679 Speaker 1: stage coach. Yeah, it's fun. 1762 01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:41,960 Speaker 2: Hopefully you'll be in that night. 1763 01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:43,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, come, we'll come out to Shre. We're standing in 1764 01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:45,680 Speaker 1: the front house close, so we're just gonna be able 1765 01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:47,599 Speaker 1: to walk over there is I guess is that walkable? 1766 01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,680 Speaker 2: Like can you watch yeah, run back and forth. It's 1767 01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:52,280 Speaker 2: it's so much going on the backstage is great. There's 1768 01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:53,599 Speaker 2: so many different bands and that's what's great. 1769 01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:54,240 Speaker 1: You got guys like. 1770 01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,760 Speaker 2: Yeah when I was bluegrass bands playing, you got Jerry 1771 01:10:57,800 --> 01:10:59,320 Speaker 2: y Lewis is playing. You got country. 1772 01:10:59,320 --> 01:10:59,960 Speaker 1: They do a great job. 1773 01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:03,639 Speaker 2: We're really bringing like everybody in that's under the country umbrella. 1774 01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:05,719 Speaker 1: So we're playing a lot of the brianc Conno festivals 1775 01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,120 Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, we're doing that Route ninety one at 1776 01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,040 Speaker 1: Faster Horses and we're and. 1777 01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,920 Speaker 2: So Connal's vessels are fun. Man, those in particular are great. 1778 01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,719 Speaker 2: He takes a lot of pride. He makes the backstage 1779 01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:17,720 Speaker 2: vibe right, that's what that's what he like, you can tell. 1780 01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:19,680 Speaker 2: And for the fan experience too, you know, I mean 1781 01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:22,519 Speaker 2: I love all the festivals. They're great, but having like 1782 01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,599 Speaker 2: festivals that aren't just the kind of the same feeling 1783 01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:27,519 Speaker 2: that kind of have this unique like ninety one has 1784 01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,000 Speaker 2: its own feel, and Faster Horses does its feel, and 1785 01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:33,240 Speaker 2: Watershed has its feel. And the I'll go with Brian 1786 01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:35,439 Speaker 2: in a golf cart and go drive around people tail getting. 1787 01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:37,559 Speaker 2: Will show me where we set this place. 1788 01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:38,160 Speaker 1: Up just to get ice. 1789 01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:39,960 Speaker 2: Man, they get ice anytime they want. Here and some 1790 01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,200 Speaker 2: block and this is a pond they can go fishing. 1791 01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:44,040 Speaker 2: The they can get fishing poles from right here and 1792 01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:46,639 Speaker 2: go fish in this pond. And he really makes it unique. 1793 01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:48,439 Speaker 2: And hopefully we're doing some of those together. I'm doing 1794 01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:51,320 Speaker 2: Faster Horses and maybe I'm doing Watershed. 1795 01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. Does it feel like you live two lives? 1796 01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,840 Speaker 1: I do live two lives because it's I mean, like 1797 01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,600 Speaker 1: the normal dude during the middle of the week and 1798 01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:01,000 Speaker 1: then star on the weekends. 1799 01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:03,840 Speaker 2: I'm literally I've had a chance to do like some 1800 01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:06,400 Speaker 2: TV stuff and it would make for great TV, but 1801 01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:07,880 Speaker 2: I just don't want to have like cameras on me. 1802 01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:12,719 Speaker 2: But because of aviation and because and and I'm treating 1803 01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:14,360 Speaker 2: myself on Who I am on the road is definitely 1804 01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:16,439 Speaker 2: who I am my fans. I'm honest and in front 1805 01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:18,320 Speaker 2: of them, and that's a big part of my personality. 1806 01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:21,640 Speaker 2: When I get on stage and go crazy. But I 1807 01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,320 Speaker 2: am will literally I'll be I'll be flying home and 1808 01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:26,800 Speaker 2: the next morning it when my kids are younger, I'll 1809 01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:30,040 Speaker 2: be like in a mommy me class with a TWIRLI baton, 1810 01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,439 Speaker 2: you know, like do things. But no one in the right, 1811 01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,840 Speaker 2: no one possibly think that I was doing this, you know, 1812 01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,040 Speaker 2: like because I mean I'm all in on the dad thing, 1813 01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,439 Speaker 2: like I I there's nothing beneath me, nothing I won't do. 1814 01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:43,280 Speaker 2: I will do anything, and so it's uh, it's definitely. 1815 01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:45,600 Speaker 2: I physically am two places at once too. I mean 1816 01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:47,559 Speaker 2: I get very little sleep. I you know, I'm up 1817 01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:50,639 Speaker 2: every morning early because I want to have a full 1818 01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:52,760 Speaker 2: life here and one thing it takes a toll on 1819 01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:56,400 Speaker 2: is the sleep. But I really am physically sometimes in 1820 01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:57,599 Speaker 2: two places at the same time. 1821 01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:09,360 Speaker 3: Hank tight the Bobby Cast will be right back, and 1822 01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:11,519 Speaker 3: we're back on the Bobby Cast. 1823 01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:14,720 Speaker 1: I want to end on this and I wonder if 1824 01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,840 Speaker 1: it got a question for you? Cool? Okay, let me 1825 01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:21,920 Speaker 1: hit first and then I'll come up. You guess what, nap, 1826 01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:23,640 Speaker 1: I walk by your book every day. It was in 1827 01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:24,439 Speaker 1: my closet. 1828 01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:29,280 Speaker 2: They're not drives me crazy all the time. I see 1829 01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,760 Speaker 2: I go do you get paid down. The Naple thing nothing, 1830 01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:33,479 Speaker 2: zero question, I had zero. 1831 01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:37,559 Speaker 1: NAPA buys a studio sponsorship there and it's in there. 1832 01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:40,559 Speaker 1: And I wanted that book to be just random pictures, 1833 01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:43,719 Speaker 1: and so just like the book is all random stories 1834 01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:46,160 Speaker 1: and I just want and nap away. We had to 1835 01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,719 Speaker 1: make the decision do we not choose the picture because 1836 01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,680 Speaker 1: there's a logo or do it is a part of 1837 01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:53,680 Speaker 1: my life and a part of time. We were like, 1838 01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,240 Speaker 1: you know what, they just I really like working with 1839 01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,600 Speaker 1: now because they're fantastic. But also it was like, you know, 1840 01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:01,160 Speaker 1: this is nap the Weirdly, they're a big part of 1841 01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:03,479 Speaker 1: my life because they allow me to eat. The sponsors 1842 01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:05,280 Speaker 1: of the show allowed me to eat. We had to 1843 01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:06,800 Speaker 1: have a meeting to go in the picture of the 1844 01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:09,160 Speaker 1: book there's a NAPA logo. Do we cut it? Do 1845 01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:12,479 Speaker 1: we make it black? Absolutely? And it was just I 1846 01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:15,880 Speaker 1: just tried in that book too. As much of my life. 1847 01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:19,280 Speaker 1: Very really was just let it be all the time. 1848 01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:22,280 Speaker 1: I was like, that's so funny you asked that, because 1849 01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:23,640 Speaker 1: we had a whole meeting about that. I was like, this, 1850 01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:26,040 Speaker 1: let it be, no no money extra, we I don't 1851 01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,920 Speaker 1: think we never even told them they we know. Yeah, 1852 01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:33,200 Speaker 1: oh kay my question. So when the ACMs happened and 1853 01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,479 Speaker 1: you're you were hosting, I was back for a present 1854 01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:37,920 Speaker 1: and it was crazy how calm and chill you were 1855 01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:41,120 Speaker 1: in between. We were just talking before going on, and 1856 01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:42,240 Speaker 1: I was about to go on to do Album of 1857 01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:43,200 Speaker 1: the Year, and I was rooting for you, and I 1858 01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:44,760 Speaker 1: said publicly I wanted you to Album of the Year. 1859 01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:46,800 Speaker 1: You didn't win, which sucked, but I wanted you to win, 1860 01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:49,840 Speaker 1: and so I opened I looked at the card ahead 1861 01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:51,160 Speaker 1: of time. Yeah, and I saw that it was Miranda 1862 01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,720 Speaker 1: who won, and I went over to Mary and told her, 1863 01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,200 Speaker 1: so if she wanted to tell you, so, you wouldn't 1864 01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,200 Speaker 1: be like, let did she tell you or did you 1865 01:14:58,280 --> 01:14:58,800 Speaker 1: see it live? 1866 01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:05,320 Speaker 2: I saw live? I mean, because you know the ward 1867 01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:08,479 Speaker 2: show stuff. I'm I'm as competitive. I'm I'm I don't 1868 01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:11,280 Speaker 2: know anyone more competitive than me. I'm really really competitive. 1869 01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:13,160 Speaker 2: But and there's times I've lived and died by the 1870 01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:14,760 Speaker 2: award shows. And I'm in a place now where I 1871 01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:18,080 Speaker 2: really I love being nominated. It's awesome. Winning would be nice, 1872 01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:22,040 Speaker 2: but I'm minute to win much bigger back for you, 1873 01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:25,400 Speaker 2: Like I wanted you to be honest, man, I'm like, yeah, 1874 01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:28,360 Speaker 2: I like, once I can thank people like you have played, 1875 01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:30,640 Speaker 2: you played, I don't you know you played songs and 1876 01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:32,080 Speaker 2: give them a chance to get things. God's going I 1877 01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:33,400 Speaker 2: want to think, Mary, I want to thank my wife, 1878 01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:36,960 Speaker 2: but man, I just want to I want to beyond 1879 01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:37,200 Speaker 2: all that. 1880 01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:38,680 Speaker 1: You're gonna do all that. 1881 01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:41,720 Speaker 2: You get the trophy, that's great, but winning in you 1882 01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:43,960 Speaker 2: can't just win. And when you have I'm winning. I 1883 01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,639 Speaker 2: feel like winning life. Man, I have like I get 1884 01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:48,519 Speaker 2: to go do that and that's great, and I win 1885 01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:51,040 Speaker 2: Album of the Year. But when the show's over, I 1886 01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:53,600 Speaker 2: get to go back to, like this great band, I 1887 01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:54,280 Speaker 2: gotta play music. 1888 01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:56,120 Speaker 1: It's awesome. 1889 01:15:58,120 --> 01:15:59,799 Speaker 2: That's my mantra. Is awesome. 1890 01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you. I was like Life, I was 1891 01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:04,960 Speaker 1: sad he didn't win, and I was like, this is 1892 01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:08,280 Speaker 1: this is just boy looking at a boy And I was, yeah, Mary, 1893 01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:09,920 Speaker 1: if you want to tell him, I don't want to. 1894 01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,000 Speaker 2: I don't want to, like on TV, like be like 1895 01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:14,680 Speaker 2: if your album's out the same year Morana's out, you 1896 01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:16,320 Speaker 2: just you know you're not gonna get it. That's the way. 1897 01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:18,160 Speaker 2: That's the way it goes. And this deserves deservedly. So 1898 01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:19,960 Speaker 2: she makes great Records. Got a great voice, she's a 1899 01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:21,960 Speaker 2: great friend and I'm happy for she. 1900 01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:24,000 Speaker 1: And it was a double album. As an art piece, 1901 01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,760 Speaker 1: it was a fantastic art piece. I'm just saying for you. 1902 01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:28,559 Speaker 1: I looked. I wanted to see it that. I went 1903 01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:30,320 Speaker 1: and told Mary, your manager. I was like, he didn't win, 1904 01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:32,320 Speaker 1: so if you want to tell him, just so, she's 1905 01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:33,200 Speaker 1: used to not winning. 1906 01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:36,120 Speaker 2: My sister calls me the Susan Lucie of country music, 1907 01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:38,400 Speaker 2: so hey, better be that than nothing else. But I 1908 01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,360 Speaker 2: I'm I'm so appreciative of every worship. 1909 01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:42,080 Speaker 1: No nomine for him. 1910 01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:43,599 Speaker 2: Say this in all honesty, but I would tell any 1911 01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,160 Speaker 2: younger writers out there, do not make that your goal. 1912 01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:48,960 Speaker 2: Do not look at Kenny. He never want anything till 1913 01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:51,439 Speaker 2: like he was already playing stadiums. Lutism win a whole 1914 01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:53,599 Speaker 2: lot of stuff. Uh, he didn't start winn until he's 1915 01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:56,400 Speaker 2: already playing stadiums. I do not focus on winning a 1916 01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:59,080 Speaker 2: piece of hard ware. It's so silly, and it's a 1917 01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:00,800 Speaker 2: lot of it's voted on. As you know, I'm not 1918 01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:03,720 Speaker 2: going to tell the listeners, you know, just enjoy your stake. 1919 01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:05,200 Speaker 2: You don't want to see how it's made. It's it's 1920 01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,360 Speaker 2: not a free process. That stuff gets on. 1921 01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:11,120 Speaker 1: It's really not, and it's not the true. 1922 01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,559 Speaker 2: Judge of Like what is good is your audience When 1923 01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:15,160 Speaker 2: you go out there and they stand front the microphone 1924 01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:17,400 Speaker 2: and they sing songs back to you. That's what any 1925 01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:19,000 Speaker 2: younger artis should be focused on. And that's what I 1926 01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:20,720 Speaker 2: focus on. There's times in the middle of my career 1927 01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,840 Speaker 2: where I didn't and I got frustrated. But I man, 1928 01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:24,800 Speaker 2: I don't, I don't care. 1929 01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:27,800 Speaker 1: It's article just popped out my notifications. It's the best 1930 01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:30,920 Speaker 1: one hundred choruses of all time, like hooks of songs, 1931 01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:34,160 Speaker 1: Ross Kopperman. No, it's not even country songs like if 1932 01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:35,960 Speaker 1: I say Ashley Simpson Pieces of Me, you remember the 1933 01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:39,840 Speaker 1: chorus that song? No, Yeah, I mean, and I don't. 1934 01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:41,479 Speaker 1: I'm just looking through some of this list. 1935 01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:44,080 Speaker 2: I mean I can sing all like the Muana soundtrack, 1936 01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:46,720 Speaker 2: I have kids, all that tuff, I know. I mean, 1937 01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:48,120 Speaker 2: I can sing yeah, I want to get here and 1938 01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:49,960 Speaker 2: see the top of these real quick well them. 1939 01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:52,200 Speaker 1: I can sing uh, here we go, all right, here 1940 01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:55,360 Speaker 1: we go talk ten you ready, Miley talks Wrecking Ball 1941 01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:57,720 Speaker 1: that everybody knows that they came in like a rick 1942 01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,400 Speaker 1: heard your voice Ride with me? You know that one? 1943 01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,040 Speaker 1: If you want to come and take a ride with me? 1944 01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:10,240 Speaker 1: Nelly Nelly, Yeah, Florida Georgia line. What are you about 1945 01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:10,439 Speaker 1: to say? 1946 01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:11,760 Speaker 2: Flow Rider? 1947 01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:16,000 Speaker 1: Oh? Flow rider? R Kelly Ignition REMI, I don't know. 1948 01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:18,200 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be a song like on Me 1949 01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:21,360 Speaker 1: or something. He has a he has a whole video. Okay, yeah, 1950 01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:22,400 Speaker 1: has a whole life. 1951 01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,000 Speaker 2: I mean you un saying I'm like the wrong I 1952 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,880 Speaker 2: listened to like Flattened Scrugs. I'm like, I don't know 1953 01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:33,800 Speaker 2: anything about they say teenage Dream. Uh yeah, I know 1954 01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:35,679 Speaker 2: the song is give Me a Little Piece. 1955 01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:36,200 Speaker 3: Damn it. 1956 01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:42,080 Speaker 1: This is tough for me dream. That's it. Yeah, I 1957 01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,920 Speaker 1: wouldn't like how about Empire, State of Mine the. 1958 01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:48,160 Speaker 2: Whole jay Z Yeah, his whole thing is so good. 1959 01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:50,400 Speaker 2: That one about ambience ambient in New. 1960 01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:55,360 Speaker 1: York Concrete Jule, We're in the top five. Then you 1961 01:18:55,520 --> 01:19:00,240 Speaker 1: can't this when you're get I bet Jimmy World the medal. Oh, 1962 01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:03,200 Speaker 1: you don't get to it just takes Sometimes. 1963 01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:06,920 Speaker 2: You do that, then you do that in your show. 1964 01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:08,960 Speaker 1: Uh we part of it. Yeah, we did parts of 1965 01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:10,680 Speaker 1: all kinds of times. I am like, I'm honestly this 1966 01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:16,040 Speaker 1: is not out Cosmus Jackson. No, I'm sorry, miss Jackson, 1967 01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:20,599 Speaker 1: who in for real never meant to make your mama. 1968 01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:22,280 Speaker 1: You know that one. Oh my gosh, no, I know 1969 01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:24,760 Speaker 1: Rose Old Kentucky and and uh you know, no Skinner 1970 01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:28,519 Speaker 1: Blues killing mister Bright's side because I missed you do love. 1971 01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:31,439 Speaker 2: I love the Killers, guys. No, but I saw them 1972 01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:33,120 Speaker 2: play when they play the like the Great Thing, but 1973 01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:35,040 Speaker 2: live in Nashville. You see like even come through the Rhyman, 1974 01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:36,599 Speaker 2: and I saw them play the Ryman and they're still 1975 01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:38,920 Speaker 2: on their way up. It was it was awesome man. 1976 01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:41,200 Speaker 1: Number two since you've been gone, Kelly Clarkson, since you 1977 01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:43,760 Speaker 1: been gone, and number one is Carl red Jepson called 1978 01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:44,400 Speaker 1: me maybe. 1979 01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:49,400 Speaker 2: My son's favorite song. I know, oh, I know, the 1980 01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:52,200 Speaker 2: whole song is my son Knox's three. I mean, maybe 1981 01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:54,840 Speaker 2: we listen, they'll call me maybe, like still ten times 1982 01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,600 Speaker 2: in the car we just got into it. Hey, I 1983 01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:01,439 Speaker 2: just met you. This is crazy, but here's my number, 1984 01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:05,720 Speaker 2: so call me maybe. And all the other boys try 1985 01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:09,639 Speaker 2: to chase me, but here's my number. Call me maybe. 1986 01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:13,679 Speaker 2: And before you came into my life, I was so bad. 1987 01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,360 Speaker 2: You should know that. I mean, I know the whole thing, man, 1988 01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:21,599 Speaker 2: But it's embarrassing. My son loves that song. I think 1989 01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:22,720 Speaker 2: it must have you know what it was in the 1990 01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:24,439 Speaker 2: movie Sing. That's the reason why I know there's a 1991 01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:26,320 Speaker 2: TV show a movie called Singing. Well, it's like American 1992 01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:27,040 Speaker 2: for cartoons. 1993 01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:27,800 Speaker 1: It's so good. 1994 01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:30,599 Speaker 2: And oh my gosh, Matthew McConaughey, go back to your 1995 01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:33,080 Speaker 2: original thing about people you text and text you back, 1996 01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:35,880 Speaker 2: Matthew McConaughey. So I did a thing for him called 1997 01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:36,799 Speaker 2: matt Jack. 1998 01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:41,519 Speaker 1: And Mac's in Austin, Austin Mac Brown. Matthew McConaughey. 1999 01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:43,519 Speaker 2: Yes, and I'm so glad this happened because I can 2000 01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:44,040 Speaker 2: tell you the story. 2001 01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:48,280 Speaker 1: So anyway, and he like, uh, you know, it's really hard. 2002 01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:48,840 Speaker 1: It couldn't do it. 2003 01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:51,160 Speaker 2: As the schedules are working out, well, he all three 2004 01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:53,200 Speaker 2: of them like called me and text me one day, 2005 01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:56,400 Speaker 2: and Matthew McConaughey like called me, like, WHOA Kanye just 2006 01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:59,719 Speaker 2: called me. This is crazy. He's texted me. I decided 2007 01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:01,720 Speaker 2: to do it, text a little bit leading up to it. Well, 2008 01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:04,160 Speaker 2: then afterwards I hadn't you know, I watched the movie Sing. 2009 01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:06,679 Speaker 2: You know, he used the voice for them to make characters, 2010 01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:11,120 Speaker 2: and I was like, should put this up? Bravo. I'm 2011 01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:17,000 Speaker 2: singing so good, Bravo, Bravo, an idiot, Bravo. I don't 2012 01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:18,400 Speaker 2: think it's even of this phone is the new film 2013 01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,519 Speaker 2: and like, just yeah, nothing came back on that one. 2014 01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:24,280 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, I haven't heard from that one. I 2015 01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:27,080 Speaker 2: think I think I used my one chance up with 2016 01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:31,280 Speaker 2: McConaughey and this nothing. He's not texting back in stupid 2017 01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:31,840 Speaker 2: comfort singer. 2018 01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:34,880 Speaker 1: All right there, we got sorry over it's over here. 2019 01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:39,400 Speaker 1: We talked about hour and time just flies by. It 2020 01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:41,479 Speaker 1: was really fun. Man, Thanks, I appreciate you coming. 2021 01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:43,000 Speaker 2: Thanks. 2022 01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:46,680 Speaker 1: Thanks a good thing. Uh, you know people listen to 2023 01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:48,840 Speaker 1: these for weeks and months and always right now blacks 2024 01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,439 Speaker 1: a single. Yes, you know these podcasts are definitely not 2025 01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:54,080 Speaker 1: time since itive the crazy thing about it again. 2026 01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:56,920 Speaker 2: But I talk lifestyles, talking about food nutrition. 2027 01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:59,240 Speaker 1: Which whatever you want to think about. The dere is 2028 01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:01,000 Speaker 1: like I want to do a b Yeah, I'm like, I. 2029 01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:03,800 Speaker 2: Don't talk about yeah, life hacking and how we can 2030 01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:04,080 Speaker 2: keep it. 2031 01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:06,320 Speaker 1: He brought me a book, yeah, the Toll and I 2032 01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:08,479 Speaker 1: have read the tim first book and it's like it 2033 01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:10,840 Speaker 1: looks like if you were to stack three bibles on 2034 01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:11,360 Speaker 1: top of each other. 2035 01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:15,479 Speaker 2: It's not threeteens of grinders like yourself. Man, note in 2036 01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:15,800 Speaker 2: there for you. 2037 01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:17,680 Speaker 1: You did put a note in there. 2038 01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:18,560 Speaker 2: Yes, I appreciate it. 2039 01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:22,519 Speaker 1: All right, episode what's that? Episode fifty four? Derek's good 2040 01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:26,320 Speaker 1: to see you, and now I'll probably see you a 2041 01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:28,760 Speaker 1: couple of I'll see Friday night. Yeah, I'm looking out 2042 01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:30,360 Speaker 1: all right, come on, I think I've been to your 2043 01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:33,280 Speaker 1: shows more than anybody else's. Like, really, I've been to 2044 01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:35,880 Speaker 1: more of your shows than anybody in town. Period. 2045 01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:37,960 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it starts some way back in DC. I 2046 01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:39,720 Speaker 2: think it's the first big one. 2047 01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:43,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah. I came out like, but I think 2048 01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:44,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying seven of. 2049 01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:48,479 Speaker 2: Your shows, I've been the the biggest one, bashebor, which 2050 01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:48,920 Speaker 2: I appreciate. 2051 01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:50,519 Speaker 1: That's big night. That's a big night. That was That 2052 01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:52,920 Speaker 1: was a crazy that was like everybody was like, okay, 2053 01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,880 Speaker 1: he's that was your moment into that you're now in 2054 01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:57,560 Speaker 1: the eight wherever you want to say it is that 2055 01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:02,200 Speaker 1: that was your night where you kind of jump up sometimes. 2056 01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:04,120 Speaker 1: All right, whatever you want to say. All right, Derek Spinley, 2057 01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:06,639 Speaker 1: thank you, and thanks to Blue apron Hund for flowers. 2058 01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:07,559 Speaker 1: And we'll see you guys next time. 2059 01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:11,439 Speaker 3: Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.