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Speaker 2: This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield.
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Speaker 2: What is up?
Speaker 1: Dolph fans and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast. I
Speaker 1: am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show, we
Speaker 1: are at the halfway point of the twenty twenty three
Speaker 1: exit interviews series and we arrive at the largest one
Speaker 1: both in stature and in quantity. We'll assess the offensive
Speaker 1: line play in twenty twenty three, an initial primer heading
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, and we'll talk about day one
Speaker 1: of Senior Bowl practices where two of my favorite players
Speaker 1: on the field were.
Speaker 2: You just guessed it on the offensive line From.
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Speaker 2: This is the Drive Time Podcast. Maggie G.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Caroline, as we jump into the
Speaker 1: offensive line review for twenty twenty three. First, real quick,
Speaker 1: just want to go ahead and let you guys know
Speaker 1: I am tracking all these defensive coordinator interviews that are
Speaker 1: being reported to have occurred down here in Miami Gardens
Speaker 1: or elsewhere we'll go ahead and get you a more
Speaker 1: comprehensive look at that as we go along. I don't
Speaker 1: want to just tell you about the names that have
Speaker 1: come across, which there are plenty. I believe five of
Speaker 1: the seven names that have been reportedly attached to the
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins have worked in the past with head coach
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel. But in the past, like Lockdown Dolphins, you know,
Speaker 1: my whole thing was to be the best and to
Speaker 1: be first with everything, and sometimes that's not always possible,
Speaker 1: especially in this position that I currently hold with the team,
Speaker 1: and I just like to be completely transparent with you guys.
Speaker 1: It's always available to me to talk about reported names,
Speaker 1: So I just want to let you guys know that
Speaker 1: the work be done and you'll get a comprehensive look
Speaker 1: back once we find out who that guy is, and
Speaker 1: probably ahead of that as well as we kind of
Speaker 1: assess some of the finalists. I think as we get
Speaker 1: closer to naming a new defensive coordinator in place of
Speaker 1: Krusty Vick, so let's go ahead and take a look
Speaker 1: at this Dolphins offensive line and review this position group
Speaker 1: and do a whole podcast out of this and talk
Speaker 1: about the Senior Bowl practice today because quite frankly, I
Speaker 1: think this offensive line class is going to a produce
Speaker 1: a surefire starter at pick twenty one on your team,
Speaker 1: which I think this team could definitely use that. And
Speaker 1: be even more important is that I think that this
Speaker 1: class will provide not just depth deep into the draft,
Speaker 1: but man, I think there's not just like a surefire
Speaker 1: starter potential, like multiple time Pro Bowl Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: type of talent within this class. I'll tell you right now,
Speaker 1: the two guys I'm going to talk about the most
Speaker 1: are Talise Fuaga from Oregon State at the tackle and
Speaker 1: Jackson Powers Johnson, the center from Oregon, who I think
Speaker 1: think are both Pro bowlers as rookies. I think one's
Speaker 1: going to be a top ten pick. I think the
Speaker 1: other one might be a top twenty pick. Hopefully he
Speaker 1: makes to pick twenty one. We'll get to all that
Speaker 1: here in a second, but first let's go ahead and
Speaker 1: review Dolphins offensive line from last year. We go in
Speaker 1: order of who took the most snaps, right, and that
Speaker 1: was Austin Jackson. This year, he had six hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty nine pass block snaps and twenty six pressures allowed.
Speaker 1: That was a pbe pass block efficiency of ninety seven
Speaker 1: point five, and in hindsight, I'm not sure there was
Speaker 1: a more needed development than Austin Jackson realizing his potential
Speaker 1: this season, aside from two a tongue by Lowa and
Speaker 1: the growth that he took this year. Leap he took
Speaker 1: this year, I should say, in the growth he's shown.
Speaker 1: Let's not make this to a podcast, but you get
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You think about the current makeup of
Speaker 1: the offensive line, plenty of questions mark right with there
Speaker 1: are some built in solutions that you could say, well,
Speaker 1: they have these question marks, but this is what they
Speaker 1: could do. And that's true, but there are just a
Speaker 1: lot of things that we don't know right now that
Speaker 1: will have to be kind of uncovered over the next
Speaker 1: couple of months. We go here and rebuild this roster
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four and for Austin to go from
Speaker 1: relatively unknown off of a very tough twenty twenty one
Speaker 1: campaign where he bounced around and play well, and then
Speaker 1: a twenty twenty two season that saw him take fewer
Speaker 1: than sixty snaps with essentially a season ending injury, and
Speaker 1: then he came back from that and reaggravated it and
Speaker 1: ended the season totally and played less than sixty snaps.
Speaker 1: Stuff like this is why nobody is ever good at
Speaker 1: predicting what happens in the NFL. This happens in every
Speaker 1: position room on every team across the entire league. You
Speaker 1: think you know, but you really have no idea. Now
Speaker 1: that's my diatribe. How about a credit to the work
Speaker 1: Austin put in so in our cafeteria here at Miami Gardens,
Speaker 1: at the Baptist Hill Training Complex, we have these massive
Speaker 1: bay windows. Like most practice facilities do, I think the
Speaker 1: modern ones at least they look out over the practice field.
Speaker 1: I think back to the Davy facility and Ryan Tannehill
Speaker 1: staring out over the practice field after tearing his ACL
Speaker 1: in training camp twenty seventeen like his dog just died,
Speaker 1: because really it did, and our season just died that day.
Speaker 1: All off season when AJ wasn't working during OTAs or
Speaker 1: even on days we were not on the practice field,
Speaker 1: what would you see when you would go down there
Speaker 1: for your chicken thighs on a bow bun or hibachi
Speaker 1: Mongolian steak from the Great Aunt Anthony behind the grill?
Speaker 1: What would you see you would see Austin with a
Speaker 1: couple of trainers working on the practice field, with his
Speaker 1: teammates in the cafeteria. This dude put in the time,
Speaker 1: and then when you hear him talk at a press conference,
Speaker 1: you can just see it right, not just the physical statue, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, he looked so much better this year
Speaker 1: than he ever has, just toned up, still large, but
Speaker 1: like six pack. He kind of reminded me of Jake
Speaker 1: Long when he came in to the league at three
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty pounds and had abs like what he
Speaker 1: looked just built in a lab. But the way that
Speaker 1: he processes things and can communicate football intricacies.
Speaker 2: I wonder if he'll want to coach in.
Speaker 1: His post playing career because he kind of communicates like
Speaker 1: a coach does. It's the reason why I voted for
Speaker 1: him as one of my top three guys in the
Speaker 1: good Guy ballot just for your awareness. I went Jalen Phillips,
Speaker 1: I went alec Ingold, and when Austin Jackson or he
Speaker 1: most it was my fourth pick and he actually won
Speaker 1: the damn thing.
Speaker 2: But those guys were my tops.
Speaker 1: I thought Austin Jackson, the way he dealt with the
Speaker 1: media after the things that they all said about him
Speaker 1: was really impressive.
Speaker 2: I digress.
Speaker 1: So you have the body, the physical skills, the mental aptitude,
Speaker 1: how about the tape. To me, what Austin did this
Speaker 1: year was get all of the mechanics operating with an orchestra.
Speaker 1: The punch matched, the correct foot drive, the hips popped
Speaker 1: at the right time. I think that's a credit to
Speaker 1: butcher Berry. I think it's a credit to Austin for
Speaker 1: drilling it like this stuff doesn't become overnight. Second Nature's
Speaker 1: like a golf swing, right. Repetition's the only way you're
Speaker 1: gonna be able to step up to a two hundred
Speaker 1: yard approach shot with sand and water as potential hazards
Speaker 1: off either side, with the confidence that you're gonna put
Speaker 1: that thing within ten feet on the putting surface every
Speaker 1: single time. I think the thing that stood out with
Speaker 1: Austin for me was how he recovered when he would
Speaker 1: lose reps Initially. Like in the past, a bad rep
Speaker 1: could sort of unravel and ultimately lead to big hits
Speaker 1: on your quarter back and broken plays. But if he
Speaker 1: lost the initial leverage battle, if his base was too
Speaker 1: wide and he got displaced, he would recover, he would
Speaker 1: get back to those mechanics and compete to at least
Speaker 1: a draw so that he could keep his quarterback afloat right.
Speaker 2: Sometimes that's all it takes.
Speaker 1: You're not going to win every single rep against someone
Speaker 1: like Max Crosby for thirty straight pass rush naps. You're
Speaker 1: not going to just wall him off every time. Sometimes
Speaker 1: you have to find a way to protect your quarterback.
Speaker 1: And I thought Austin did that all year long, and
Speaker 1: so as one of the let's call it what it is,
Speaker 1: premiere pass protecting tackles in the National Football League this year,
Speaker 1: he harnessed something we had already seen on tape, and
Speaker 1: that was his mauling presence in the running game. It's
Speaker 1: funny because he's so soft spoken when you get to
Speaker 1: know him and just kind of chill, but he's, for
Speaker 1: lack of a better term, he's an asshole on the
Speaker 1: football field. He finishes through the echo of the whistle.
Speaker 1: He'll just beat you up and then celebrate after he
Speaker 1: does it.
Speaker 2: I love it. You need players like that.
Speaker 1: I think where he can go even another step this
Speaker 1: year is just the traditional pass set victories. It was
Speaker 1: very good, but maybe we can become even better and
Speaker 1: you know, become one of the top couple of right
Speaker 1: tackles in the NFL, because if we can get to
Speaker 1: third and nine and just shut guys down to a
Speaker 1: standstill and give two up three four seconds to throw
Speaker 1: the football, we're gonna destroy teams. And he's already close.
Speaker 1: So I'm glad we got his deal done. And I'm
Speaker 1: a huge fan of this player and of this man,
Speaker 1: and of the contract. We gave him twelve million a
Speaker 1: year for a guy that probably, if he plays like
Speaker 1: that again next year, would get twenty five or twenty
Speaker 1: five twenty million on the open market. Like that could
Speaker 1: potentially be a massive, massive boom for the Dolphins team.
Speaker 1: And to contextualize his season, I mentioned to Crosby, right,
Speaker 1: did you know that Max had one cleanup sack in
Speaker 1: that week eleven game against US didn't go against Austin Jackson,
Speaker 1: But it was a sack. It was a scramble play
Speaker 1: where two got like he got him like a yard
Speaker 1: behind the line after a scramble, so it wasn't even
Speaker 1: a big play. They didn't charge the sack to Austin
Speaker 1: and in fact, he was hit with just one pressure
Speaker 1: in the game on forty two pass blocking snaps in
Speaker 1: that game twenty five against Max Crosby.
Speaker 2: That's elite work there.
Speaker 1: He also had one or zero pressures allowed games against
Speaker 1: Buffalo and Gregory Russa, the Giants Caveon Thibodeaux, Carolina, Brian Burns, Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: Hassan Reddick, the Jets with Bryce Huff and Jermaine Johnson
Speaker 1: and John Franklin Myers, the Jets again, and then Buffalo again.
Speaker 1: He allowed two or fewer pressures in all but three
Speaker 1: games this year. The opener against the Chargers, which I
Speaker 1: thought that was scored kind of weird. Baltimore he allowed
Speaker 1: four in that game. We all got beat up in
Speaker 1: that game.
Speaker 2: And Casey in the playoffs he allowed five. We all
Speaker 2: sucked in that game too.
Speaker 1: Fifty five offensive tackles allowed more pressures than Austin Jackson
Speaker 1: this year. He played all of the games but won right. So,
Speaker 1: out of the sixty four designated starting spots for tackles,
Speaker 1: you think all those guys play every game.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: In fact, the ninety seven point five PBE was twelfth
Speaker 1: among offensive tackles who played at least three hundred pass
Speaker 1: blocking snaps, and like the names ahead of him, this
Speaker 1: is left tackle and right tackle by the way to
Speaker 1: Ron Armstead, Pine Sewel, Trent Williams, Tristan Wurfs, Tyron Smith,
Speaker 1: Braden Smith, Caleb Gary, Colt Miller, Laramie Tunzel. These are
Speaker 1: the best tackle with the NFL guys. That's where he
Speaker 1: is right now. Number seven Liam Mikenberger's is not there?
Speaker 1: Five hundred and twenty six pass blocking snaps, twenty four pressures,
Speaker 1: a ninety seven point one pass block efficiency. Let's go
Speaker 1: ahead and just rip this band aid off right off
Speaker 1: the top.
Speaker 2: I don't want to.
Speaker 1: See seventy four at center anymore. Fair Like, look, commendables,
Speaker 1: hell the job he did there. As much as I've
Speaker 1: supported the roster building, I mean, I mean, how can
Speaker 1: you not. I know we lost in the playoffs again,
Speaker 1: but this roster, this last couple of years has been
Speaker 1: one of the best in the National Football League. I
Speaker 1: think the biggest air this year was the negligence at
Speaker 1: backup center. And you don't have to have an all
Speaker 1: pro there. In fact, there's like ten good centers on
Speaker 1: the planet, but to not have anyone on the roster
Speaker 1: seemed a little bit ill faded.
Speaker 2: And look, Dan Feeney didn't like go on to be
Speaker 2: a Pro Bowl or somewhere. Didn't even play in this year.
Speaker 1: Wherever he it was the Bears, right, But that was
Speaker 1: just a strange move to ship him off on the
Speaker 1: eve of the season because all year we saw what
Speaker 1: happened when we lost Connor. Even if I think Connor
Speaker 1: inherently gives you a little bit of a miss on
Speaker 1: something you need inside that was uncovered this year.
Speaker 2: More on that moment.
Speaker 1: But Liam was constantly out of play, off balance, just
Speaker 1: getting railroaded or on the ground. You can't win football
Speaker 1: games that way. I do think you have to commend
Speaker 1: him for his toughness, because this was a guy that
Speaker 1: was limping around after games and gutting it through practices
Speaker 1: to give us, you know, sixty plus snaps every single game.
Speaker 2: He didn't miss like he was out there for us.
Speaker 1: He was just very tough that way, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: it limited his range of mobility, but man, when he
Speaker 1: needed him out there instead of a guy that was
Speaker 1: a late season off the street for agent who hadn't
Speaker 1: played a snap in the NFL in years, Liam was
Speaker 1: there for us, and I thought where he was best
Speaker 1: was it the guard position. When Isaiah Winn got hurt,
Speaker 1: and Connor returned for the Chiefs game back in November
Speaker 1: and he kicked out to left guard, and now, of
Speaker 1: course he had to slide back into the right guard
Speaker 1: role when we lost Probert Hunt that same week for
Speaker 1: a few weeks. Then he went right guard, right guard,
Speaker 1: left guard for Vegas Jets in Washington, that's where I
Speaker 1: thought he was playing his best football, and it kind
Speaker 1: of coincided with mid season last year when he got hurt,
Speaker 1: playing his best ball in that same position at left guard.
Speaker 1: And man, when I think about the lead that Austin
Speaker 1: took last year for a guy who came out one
Speaker 1: year later, albeit probably more polished product than what Austin
Speaker 1: Jackson was with a ton more snaps in full four
Speaker 1: years another dame, I don't think it's crazy to think
Speaker 1: that it's possible that Liam can take all those lessons,
Speaker 1: a full off season of training, the various spots played
Speaker 1: and get even better next year, because during that stretch
Speaker 1: I thought he was starting guard quality, backup center quality
Speaker 1: at best. And if you can get that plus a
Speaker 1: little bit more for a guy that's on the fourth
Speaker 1: year of that rookie deal, like if you get Liam Eickenbergers.
Speaker 2: You're starting left guard, and it's not like, oh no,
Speaker 2: it's Liam, It's like, oh Liam's there.
Speaker 1: Good. If you get that on his contract for this year,
Speaker 1: it would be a massive, massive win for the way
Speaker 1: that Dolphins want to build the roster this year.
Speaker 2: Do you bank on it?
Speaker 1: I wouldn't, But I think that you can build this
Speaker 1: thing in a way that creates contingencies where Liam is
Speaker 1: afforded that opportunity, because I'm not sure if he's capable
Speaker 1: of that.
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot to be refined. Though the
Speaker 2: technique is inconsistent.
Speaker 1: He can get overpowered, he falls off blocks way too easily,
Speaker 1: and he's always on the ground. Another classic case of
Speaker 1: guy on the ground, right, But I deally, You know,
Speaker 1: if you spend something like, I don't know, five million
Speaker 1: on a starter there, if it's Isaiah Win or if
Speaker 1: it's you know, a free agent off the street, you
Speaker 1: re sign Rob Hunt, You let Connor Williams walk, and
Speaker 1: you draft either Zach Frazier or Jackson Powers Johnson. Liam
Speaker 1: becomes the top interior guy off the bench, and he
Speaker 1: needs to be better, but we kind of need him.
Speaker 1: It's a weird spot to be in This is the
Speaker 1: kind of player in a league where you there just
Speaker 1: aren't enough good offensive line for Edwin to have five,
Speaker 1: much less six seven eight players that are good at
Speaker 1: this position group. And when you consider his contract, man like,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be that's gonna provide value for this team
Speaker 1: next year, so he'll be here. What he becomes as
Speaker 1: a player could be a critical critical mission here for.
Speaker 2: The Miami Dolphins. More on that in the Isaiah Win portion.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and finish up the first second here
Speaker 1: with a quick note on the player sixty six Lester Cotton,
Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty two snaps in pass protection, twenty pressures.
Speaker 1: It was a ninety six point seven pbe pretty wild
Speaker 1: journey for him to go from not playing last year
Speaker 1: to starting a playoff game and then getting buried in
Speaker 1: the depth chart this summer, probably probably rightfully so, and
Speaker 1: then to work his way into the seventh most snaps
Speaker 1: on the entire offensive side of the football. I thought
Speaker 1: he got better in certain things like picking up certain
Speaker 1: games and twists, but it got to a point on
Speaker 1: tape where I just like couldn't watch it anymore because
Speaker 1: you guys heard it all year long, falling off blocks,
Speaker 1: unable to locate those backside seals that provided big runs.
Speaker 1: I think the attrition that forced this player onto the
Speaker 1: field cost you hundreds, hundreds of rushing yards and as
Speaker 1: a result, conversions points and eventually wins big big gripe
Speaker 1: with a snap count for this player, I thought it
Speaker 1: was a big hole on the roster this year. Let's
Speaker 1: go ahead and take our first break right there, come
Speaker 1: back on the other side and finish up the offensive line.
Speaker 1: That's all next Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield,
Speaker 1: brought to you by Auto Nation. Three players into our
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three offensive line review. Several more to go here,
Speaker 1: starting with Kendall lam number seventy who again, we're going
Speaker 1: in order of snaps played, so Austin Jackson, Lea Mikenberg,
Speaker 1: Lester Cotton, Kendall Lamb. If I told you that going
Speaker 1: into the season, you would have said Travis's team is
Speaker 1: gonna go eight to nine. He played three hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty seven pass blocking snaps and allowed twenty pressures. It's
Speaker 1: a ninety six point five pbe and it sure is
Speaker 1: nice when you see thirty two snaps of a guy
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two and think, man, that was pretty good,
Speaker 1: and then you can roll that over into six hundred
Speaker 1: snaps and the eighth most on your offense, fourth most
Speaker 1: on the offensive line. It started in Week one right,
Speaker 1: just shut down Khalil Mack time and time again. I
Speaker 1: think those true pass sets are his best trait. A
Speaker 1: veteran savvy to have the combination of nasty but also
Speaker 1: the little tricks of the position that you see the
Speaker 1: older heads so well versed in, like a toront Armstead,
Speaker 1: go short in the runway on a wide nine, extract
Speaker 1: the pass rush moved by a dummy punch while you
Speaker 1: get your depth and set up your pass set, redirecting
Speaker 1: on a guy in a way that gets his leverage
Speaker 1: so out of balance, he just goes to the ground
Speaker 1: and you follow him to end the rep right there.
Speaker 1: I just think Kendall won so many of his reps
Speaker 1: before the ball was even snapped, and I think that's
Speaker 1: a valuable depth piece. And I'm really curious to see
Speaker 1: what they do here. He seems to me like the
Speaker 1: ideal perfect swing tackle. Federan presence has been largely available
Speaker 1: to you, kind of has some stuff to him, and
Speaker 1: I've got my guy seth level would say on the
Speaker 1: Fish Tank podcast with Oja McDuffie, go ahead and check
Speaker 1: out their podcast, and just his veteran experience is valuable
Speaker 1: for the young guys as well. And again, I think
Speaker 1: the biggest downgrade we saw with the shuffled offensive lines
Speaker 1: wasn't in the past pro It was the surge in
Speaker 1: the running game or lack thereof. When we talked about
Speaker 1: it on the Monday podcast about how the Ravens defensive ability,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs defensibility to come downhill and collision at the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and get forward, push and not get
Speaker 1: knocked back, to give yourself second and nine, a post
Speaker 1: a second and five. That changes the equation for the
Speaker 1: opposing offense right like you're gonna go from single high
Speaker 1: to too high with that additional.
Speaker 2: Yardage you have in your back pocket.
Speaker 1: And that's where I think Miami's entire operation began to
Speaker 1: fold in on itself.
Speaker 2: The inability to.
Speaker 1: Run the ball in early downs and the kind of
Speaker 1: thinking of McDaniel pivoting towards more early down runs, which
Speaker 1: I think was a mistake. Throw the football early, run
Speaker 1: the ball to convert short yards in that type of situation.
Speaker 1: I think Miami's inability to do so with their commitment
Speaker 1: to do so in the running game was where the
Speaker 1: offense got behind what it does best, and it put
Speaker 1: them in all these true pass drop sets, which is
Speaker 1: not it's not designed to live off of those. No
Speaker 1: offense is. But they were consistently in those looks down
Speaker 1: the stretch, and I think the interior three offensive lines
Speaker 1: inability to get pushed in the running game was the
Speaker 1: main culprit for that. On top of not enough separators
Speaker 1: beyond ten and seventeen, with seventeen being out for so
Speaker 1: many games late in the year and practice rep so
Speaker 1: many late in the year, beyond the quarterback not playing
Speaker 1: well enough, I think this was one of the core
Speaker 1: issues you had this year. And Kendall, didn't, you know,
Speaker 1: give us a lot of range in the in the
Speaker 1: running game or pop as that starter left tackle. But
Speaker 1: and when you went with him Cotton and Lamb or
Speaker 1: like or with him Cotton to Lium, I should say
Speaker 1: we left so many rushing yards out there with one
Speaker 1: of those three losing a rep and costing us to gain.
Speaker 1: Now again, our tackles performed super well in their pass
Speaker 1: pro metrics. The ninety six point five Ppe was actually
Speaker 1: tied for thirty fifth among all tackles and again sixty
Speaker 1: four tackle spots, right, So for your third to finish there,
Speaker 1: that is very very very good. But also something else
Speaker 1: to consider in your off season projections and evaluations. If
Speaker 1: you add Keion and remove the snap stipulations, that's four
Speaker 1: tackles in that top thirty five range. That's why I
Speaker 1: think the interior offensive line's more important for us in
Speaker 1: terms of getting rock solid in that position because they've
Speaker 1: shown the ability this coaching staff and this team to
Speaker 1: mitigate tackle quote unquote holes, not as much at guard
Speaker 1: and center. And that's system based, right. You can get
Speaker 1: those tight ends and wide receiver crackbacks to help those guys,
Speaker 1: and the chips and all the things you do to
Speaker 1: help on the perimeter.
Speaker 2: Inside, it's kind of on those guys and the.
Speaker 1: Quarterback and the running back, and we're just built so
Speaker 1: much better for helping on the outside than we are
Speaker 1: on the inside. Food for thought Number sixty eight, Robert Hunt,
Speaker 1: this is your best player and he played the fifth
Speaker 1: most snaps.
Speaker 2: That's a problem.
Speaker 1: Seven hundred or rather three hundred and seventy six pass
Speaker 1: block snaps, five pressures, that's ninety nine.
Speaker 2: Point two pass block efficiency.
Speaker 1: I thought Rob was destined for Pro Bowls the first
Speaker 1: time I plugged on his UL tape, comically steamrolling dudes,
Speaker 1: tossing them out of the club. And boy, let me
Speaker 1: tell you, four years into his Dolphins tape, we've gotten
Speaker 1: the exact same thing. Think we missed him more than
Speaker 1: anybody else when he was down with that hamstring injury
Speaker 1: that lingered like damn it. When he was right versus Washington,
Speaker 1: we rolled that game the last time the offense looked
Speaker 1: like the offense right. Then he aggravates it and we
Speaker 1: only get in for the playoff game, Like this is
Speaker 1: what I was talking about. A guy who hadn't missed
Speaker 1: a game in three years plays just two of the
Speaker 1: final nine of this critical season.
Speaker 2: That's tough.
Speaker 1: But Rob's a nasty, mauling, frequent pancake artist who finds
Speaker 1: ribs and gets himself some big kill shots just Barry's.
Speaker 2: Dudes with raw.
Speaker 1: Strength and uses that defensive line want to rush half
Speaker 1: the man so they can just work off one of
Speaker 1: your shoulders and not try to rush through your entire frame.
Speaker 1: He uses that technique to his advantage, and guys who
Speaker 1: don't pack the requisite power. He just has the wherewithal
Speaker 1: to bury them and say you're not gonna rush half
Speaker 1: of mem You're gonna I'm gonna win with the half
Speaker 1: of my body here and the strength I have on
Speaker 1: my left or right side, finding, you know, help when
Speaker 1: he doesn't have an assignment on top of elite one
Speaker 1: versus one work in that department. You'll venture to guess
Speaker 1: how many guards had a better pass block efficiency than
Speaker 1: Rob Hunt.
Speaker 2: The answer is zero.
Speaker 1: He finished a half point better than second place Brandon
Speaker 1: Sheriff among guards with at least three hundred pass blocking snaps.
Speaker 1: Win was actually next, but he didn't qualify for that.
Speaker 1: That group includes Shurf, Tyler Smith, Chris Lenstrom, Hellodi v Tie,
Speaker 1: Quentin Nelson, and on the best guards in football. I
Speaker 1: think Rob has taken to a system that he's familiar with,
Speaker 1: that he ran in college, that he utilizes his athletic
Speaker 1: ability within it, but also gives us the pop and
Speaker 1: temperament at the position we need to really grind teams
Speaker 1: down late in the game with the running game.
Speaker 2: I love his game. No complaints.
Speaker 1: Actually, if there was one, it's that every like two
Speaker 1: or three games he has a big whiff on a
Speaker 1: free run, typically off of a game, like a stunt
Speaker 1: or a twist.
Speaker 2: But you live at that because otherwise he's just dominant.
Speaker 1: And look, I'm not negotiating deals here, but he's my priority.
Speaker 1: Re sign number seventy two t Ron Armstead three hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty four PB snaps seven pressures a ninety eight
Speaker 1: point nine PBE. I think if you asked Taran he
Speaker 1: would tell you this year was a down year for him,
Speaker 1: and in that down year, he was number one among
Speaker 1: tackles in.
Speaker 2: Past block efficiency.
Speaker 1: It just tells you how damn good this player is
Speaker 1: and has been his whole career. Remember when he made
Speaker 1: his debut on the season versus the Broncos and we
Speaker 1: posted seventy points with all those big plays around the
Speaker 1: corner where he's putting dutes on their back and wiping
Speaker 1: out the entire edge. He's probably the best pass protecting
Speaker 1: left tackle of the last decade. Like Joe Thomas handing
Speaker 1: over that throne. I mean, he's right there. If he's
Speaker 1: not him, he is him. I do think there were
Speaker 1: more reps this year where he just flat out got
Speaker 1: beat for a sack, and by more we're talking about
Speaker 1: like two or three versus zero. I just think he
Speaker 1: wore down a little bit there. The body kind of
Speaker 1: gave up on him a little bit in certain spots
Speaker 1: and especially in the running game as well. But you
Speaker 1: guys have heard it all from me, right, the smartest
Speaker 1: pass pro plan in the game, that great fake cut
Speaker 1: block he threw at Micah Parsons to essentially win the
Speaker 1: game on the Tyreek Hill screen on that Cowboys game
Speaker 1: winning drive. I think that his ripple effect to the
Speaker 1: rest of the ruin the young guys might be his
Speaker 1: most valuable asset that he features. He missed seven more
Speaker 1: games this year, missed four last year. That's thirteen and
Speaker 1: two years, almost a full season. Basically that was coming up.
Speaker 1: And he doesn't practice too, which was a big sticking
Speaker 1: point I had in a previous podcast, right, And that
Speaker 1: was coming off a year where he missed nine missed
Speaker 1: two and one in twenty nineteen and twenty eighteen, but
Speaker 1: six games in twenty seventeen, nine more in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: That's just been his career and it kind of makes you,
Speaker 1: it makes for a tricky situation because you know how
Speaker 1: great he is, but you know the inevitability of his
Speaker 1: injuries makes it so tough to value him as a
Speaker 1: player because if you go forward with him at a
Speaker 1: fourteen million dollar price tag, and that's just too much
Speaker 1: to play ten games. If it's thirteen, I'd probably sign
Speaker 1: it today if you could give me a crystal ball.
Speaker 1: But do we think he'll start playing more games at
Speaker 1: this stage of his career? And if a left guard
Speaker 1: plan like I talked about earlier, like I could see
Speaker 1: a situation where maybe you draft your left tackle or
Speaker 1: whatever the case. Like Also, by the way, signing left tackle,
Speaker 1: signing tackles, and free agency, Kyle Krabs has a great
Speaker 1: segment on this. I'm sure he'll bring it up again
Speaker 1: this year, where like signing offensive tackles top of the
Speaker 1: market almost never works out, So food for thought there.
Speaker 1: But if you do something at left tackle here, and
Speaker 1: if you decide that one of the positions you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to gamble with on the offensive line, if it's
Speaker 1: that like win Liam combination of we know wins great,
Speaker 1: but we know he can't play half the season. We
Speaker 1: know Liam has stretches, but we know that we can't
Speaker 1: count his technique. Like you might take a gamble there.
Speaker 1: If you do that, you cannot have Tron as your
Speaker 1: left tackle because of the gamble that he inherently possesses.
Speaker 1: So it's just it's a lot of tough decisions are
Speaker 1: gonna have to make. I think there's lots of right decisions,
Speaker 1: but I don't envy those number fifty eight Connor Williams
Speaker 1: two hundred and eighty pass block snaps, six pressures, ninety
Speaker 1: eight points having pbe This is maybe the most interesting
Speaker 1: situation in the league. And maybe I feel that way
Speaker 1: because of my close proximity to these Miami Dolphins. But
Speaker 1: how many teams have a player who tore his ACL
Speaker 1: in December who are a great fit for their system.
Speaker 1: But ultimately you talk about two not playing big enough
Speaker 1: in big games, or Tyreek for that matter, in the
Speaker 1: biggest games against the biggest competition, against the Ed Olivers
Speaker 1: and Daikwon Jones, against the Jordan Davis and Fletcher Cox
Speaker 1: and Jalen Carter, against the Chris Jones of the world,
Speaker 1: against the Quincy Williams. He got kind of ran over
Speaker 1: against bigger competition. And you want a top of the
Speaker 1: market contract coming off of an ACL and December. It's
Speaker 1: tricky man I think the last two years of center
Speaker 1: play we got down here have been the best since
Speaker 1: Mike Pouncy's prime years. And look, we certainly missed Connor
Speaker 1: when he was out. One of the most athletic centers
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Opens up your options in
Speaker 1: terms of your perimeter running game, your screen game, all
Speaker 1: the stuff we do to stretch the defense horizontally to
Speaker 1: the absolute limit. Connor exit amplifies that. I do think
Speaker 1: there were some times against those bigger teams where he
Speaker 1: got outmatched and that caused us to not have our
Speaker 1: short yardage conversions, which has been a problem for two
Speaker 1: years in a row. And if you go back to
Speaker 1: training camp and watch Raykwon Davis, a very average player
Speaker 1: at his position in terms of his production, get a
Speaker 1: lot of pushback on Connor.
Speaker 2: You kind of see that displayed there.
Speaker 1: So I don't say that's disparage Connor one because think
Speaker 1: he's going to top five or six sentators in the
Speaker 1: National Football League.
Speaker 2: But it's an area that you have to get better at.
Speaker 1: And I think that where he opens the playbook up,
Speaker 1: where he gets you so many options, you have to
Speaker 1: take all that into account. Because again, his PBE was
Speaker 1: fourth among sentis, but at least two undred pass blocking
Speaker 1: snaps finish just behind Jason Kelsey. But that's a real thing,
Speaker 1: like we need to really be able to anchor against
Speaker 1: bigger guys up front, especially with our quarterback and his
Speaker 1: limited mobility.
Speaker 2: Something to think about.
Speaker 1: Number sixty five Robert Jones three hundred and four pass
Speaker 1: block snaps, fourteen pressures, ninety seven point two pbe.
Speaker 2: What a crazy year for this guy.
Speaker 1: Right injury in the preseason after competing neck and neck
Speaker 1: for the left guard job. Does not see the field
Speaker 1: until Week eight as a result of that injury, but
Speaker 1: then steps into the start of for the next two games.
Speaker 1: Left guard gets hurt again, comes back in week fourteen,
Speaker 1: and he plays two hundred and fifty of his three
Speaker 1: hundred and four total snaps on the year from Week
Speaker 1: fourteen through the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Didn't miss a snap the rest of the way.
Speaker 1: He had some of the key blocks on those critical
Speaker 1: Jeff Wilson runs to beat Dallas. I think that his
Speaker 1: that's his best trait man gap football, displacing guys with
Speaker 1: a sheer mash three hundred and twenty five pounds. Our
Speaker 1: second biggest guard in the roster now, I don't think
Speaker 1: he's a fit for us.
Speaker 2: I think go somewhere.
Speaker 1: He was a worthwhile, you know, reserve on a UDFA
Speaker 1: rookie contract. That's cheapest, hell, the cheapest player you can
Speaker 1: have a football now that's expired. I don't think you
Speaker 1: go after a bigger deal with him. Maybe they tender him,
Speaker 1: but I doubt it. I think for him something like
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh where he can go be a mauler for Arthur
Speaker 1: Smith makes a lot of sense. Number seventy seven Isaiah
Speaker 1: win two hundred and twenty four PB snaps, four pressures,
Speaker 1: a ninety nine point one PBE.
Speaker 2: He was phenomenal to the.
Speaker 1: First seven games of the year, a total free agent hit,
Speaker 1: but then he suffers what becomes a season ending injury.
Speaker 2: Awesome.
Speaker 1: In pass Pro, nobody gained an inch on this dude,
Speaker 1: regardless of their move He could absorb power. He had
Speaker 1: the lateral movement and strength to thwart games and rushers
Speaker 1: trying to cross his face. I thought his run game
Speaker 1: work was plenty good enough, and frankly, we saw the
Speaker 1: offense struggle to replace him when he was lost. He
Speaker 1: played the first three hundred and ninety two snaps. Then
Speaker 1: we have three guys rotating into that position to run
Speaker 1: with the rest of the seven hundred plus snaps that
Speaker 1: we would play this season.
Speaker 2: And the only thing that I.
Speaker 1: Think keeping him from being a cornerstone from someone that
Speaker 1: you bank on is the injury history. He's never played
Speaker 1: a full season. He missed eight games as a rookie,
Speaker 1: six in year two, one in twenty twenty one, eight
Speaker 1: last year, and then ten this past season. Fifty games
Speaker 1: out of eighty three possible. He's played an average of
Speaker 1: six point six miss games per year since coming into
Speaker 1: the league. I am so curious about this player too.
Speaker 1: The whole line is fascinating me. But I'm curious about
Speaker 1: his market. He can't stay healthy, right, and that's an
Speaker 1: issue when you go into the year counting on him
Speaker 1: to be one of the guys and you're short a
Speaker 1: player when he goes out for the year. But that's like,
Speaker 1: you know, one for three and a half million or
Speaker 1: something like that. Again, that would be a no bran
Speaker 1: to me. Do it?
Speaker 2: Why not?
Speaker 1: It's cheap and you could possibly get a starting left
Speaker 1: guard for even ten games at three point five million.
Speaker 1: At top level, guard play is worth it if he wants,
Speaker 1: like Bona fide starting left guard money, he probably can't
Speaker 1: do that. His market value at spot rack is right
Speaker 1: in line with where he was at this time a
Speaker 1: year ago, and it's probably because the injury history, But
Speaker 1: who the hell knows how accurate that can be. Frankly,
Speaker 1: I will not hate it if it's him and Liam,
Speaker 1: as long as we have a better plan at the
Speaker 1: left tackle position. And you brought back Rob and you
Speaker 1: probably drafted a center high. But it's like it's doable
Speaker 1: if the other positions are a little bit more sturdy.
Speaker 1: So on I'm trying to say seventy one key on
Speaker 1: Smith twenty two pass blocking snaps, zero pressures, I's say
Speaker 1: one hundred pbe perhaps the player I'm most intrigued by
Speaker 1: on the entire roster. I keep saying that right to be,
Speaker 1: frank I didn't think he was long for the league.
Speaker 1: After camp in twenty twenty two he looked awful and
Speaker 1: preseason was even worse. Now at the end of twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three, I think he could be a future left
Speaker 1: tackle that starts in this league. Another yet another example
Speaker 1: of not getting too rigid in your beliefs. But I
Speaker 1: think this speaks to his dedication to the craft and
Speaker 1: the work of the code coaching staff. Think about this,
Speaker 1: A player who misses his senior year of high school
Speaker 1: due to an injury, gets twenty college games in his
Speaker 1: career and misses his senior year of college because of
Speaker 1: the pandemic at Fayetteville State. People throw the term raw
Speaker 1: around a lot, like just look at his measurements. He
Speaker 1: has the burst, a length, the composition to be the
Speaker 1: ideal tackle in this offense. And I think he showed
Speaker 1: you flashes of that in very brief time this year.
Speaker 1: But the preseason tape was awesome, and then we got
Speaker 1: good again, albeit limited work, but good regular season tape
Speaker 1: this year. That makes me think he's a piece worth
Speaker 1: investing more time into. And he's near the top of
Speaker 1: my list of guys I cannot wait to watch at OTAs.
Speaker 1: We rounded out here with someone that did not play
Speaker 1: at all, Number sixty Jonathan Harrison. Didn't see him play.
Speaker 1: I don't care talk anymore about it. Futures contracts. Ryan
Speaker 1: Hayes and Chase and Hines are guys that were brought
Speaker 1: back on those futures deals.
Speaker 2: So there's some tires in the fire, some irons in
Speaker 2: the fire.
Speaker 1: How do you say that whatever on an offensive line
Speaker 1: that has a lot of work to do, but feel
Speaker 1: pretty good about where they are and where they could
Speaker 1: go with the resources they have this offseason. Last break
Speaker 1: right there, come back on the speaking of the resources,
Speaker 1: two of my favorite players in the Senior Bowler offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about day one to Practice's next Draft Time podcast,
Speaker 1: your host, Travis Wingfield, brought to you by donation.
Speaker 2: That's rare. Okay, girl, let's go still watch it? Who
Speaker 2: is who watching.
Speaker 1: To watch it? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Who is watching? Watching? Day?
Speaker 1: So many clarifications to make here as we get into
Speaker 1: the third and final segment on this Wednesday, the last
Speaker 1: day of January, which, when your football team is not
Speaker 1: playing this time of year, feels like the longest, most
Speaker 1: pointless month of the year in a way, doesn't it.
Speaker 1: I think February probably is that way as well with
Speaker 1: regards to football fans. Like I was telling my wife,
Speaker 1: we spend so many waking moments, chasing around kids, picking
Speaker 1: up messes, making sure my one year old son, who
Speaker 1: seems to cry about everything, is not crying. And at
Speaker 1: least at the end of the day you had football
Speaker 1: to look forward to, right, But now you don't. I
Speaker 1: love the conference championship games and divisional round weekend and
Speaker 1: all that fun stuff.
Speaker 2: But like man, I miss Thursday night.
Speaker 1: I miss the holiday season when you have Saturday games
Speaker 1: and then Monday night football. It's just the best time
Speaker 1: of year, and right now is kind of the worst
Speaker 1: time of year. But luckily, luckily we have some football
Speaker 1: to discuss right here, and the Senior Bowl which kicked off,
Speaker 1: which is why we give you the lead in song there.
Speaker 1: Who's Wingfield watching? And who Wingfield's watching?
Speaker 2: Today?
Speaker 1: Me is by the way that song falls really flat.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that at first, but those notes lyrically,
Speaker 1: the words are fine, but the notes are god awful,
Speaker 1: which is kind of what I was going for, but
Speaker 1: I didn't realize how bad it actually was. Luckily, the
Speaker 1: players on the was it the national team or the
Speaker 1: American team? Let me check that real quick national roster
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. So I'm telling you this because I did
Speaker 1: not watch the entirety, or I should say I did
Speaker 1: not put the entirety of my day one notes and
Speaker 1: here for you guys, because this podcast got a little
Speaker 1: bit long. Offensive lines, the longest or deepest position group
Speaker 1: on the roster and so that happens, and with linebackers, interior,
Speaker 1: defensive line corners and safety still to go, we can
Speaker 1: get much more notes in with those smaller position groups.
Speaker 1: So today we're talking about day one of the American team.
Speaker 1: Will do the rest of the Senior Bowl practice notes
Speaker 1: on Friday, and then I'll go ahead and get someone
Speaker 1: on the show Monday. I'm thinking Kyle Krabs haven't gotten
Speaker 1: a confirmation on that, but I want to get his
Speaker 1: perspective because the last disclaimer here before we talk about
Speaker 1: these prospects, everything that I talk about on the podcast
Speaker 1: here with regards to the draft is going to be
Speaker 1: through a Dolphin's lens. I will continue to harp on
Speaker 1: that disclaimer. I think some shows and even myself from
Speaker 1: the past on Lockdown Dolphins had done like here's who
Speaker 1: I like, but this is what the Dolphins could do.
Speaker 1: Everything is with the lens as if I am a
Speaker 1: scout for the Miami Dolphins and thinking about who fits
Speaker 1: what we do right. That's the beauty of one team
Speaker 1: scouting opposed to what Kyle does. For instance, with all
Speaker 1: thirty two scouting is you have your scouting for generalize
Speaker 1: like you would be a consultant that consults the entire league,
Speaker 1: which is a much tougher job than to find specific notes.
Speaker 1: And then, of course Kyle does a great job with
Speaker 1: his Dolphins notes unlocked down Dolphins, and that's what we're
Speaker 1: gonna do here. So here's my notes from the American
Speaker 1: team practice on Wednesday. I have so many because there's
Speaker 1: so many guys on that field that I think could
Speaker 1: step in and help the Dolphins in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: And that being said, I don't view the draft that way.
Speaker 2: I never have.
Speaker 1: I've never thought that your draft purposes is to get
Speaker 1: the best football team on the field for this upcoming season.
Speaker 1: That's doing it wrong. The best way to draft is
Speaker 1: taking the best player available. I saw a tweet. I
Speaker 1: think his name is Sean Williams. You guys probably know
Speaker 1: who he is. I've never seen a tweet more right
Speaker 1: and wrong. At the same time, he was harping on
Speaker 1: how the best team in the league take the best
Speaker 1: player available, regardless of their position. That's how you draft
Speaker 1: the best, and I agree with that. That's in two years,
Speaker 1: your needs are going to be completely different and you'll
Speaker 1: still have that player. So draft the best players and
Speaker 1: you'll turn out right in the end. But then at
Speaker 1: the end of it he said, that's why Chris Grear
Speaker 1: sucks because he only has one All Pro in his career,
Speaker 1: and what a weird bar that is. First of all,
Speaker 1: it's wrong because he did draft larry My Tunzel, he
Speaker 1: did draft Minka Fitzpatrick. That's two All pros. I probably
Speaker 1: doesn't count Tyreek Hills two All pros, which he traded
Speaker 1: a first round pick four down here. It's misguided by
Speaker 1: people that think that Chris Greer like committed crimes against
Speaker 1: humanity for whatever reason, even though he has built one
Speaker 1: of the best rosters in the NFL. I digress, so
Speaker 1: draft the best players, and Chris Greer is doing just
Speaker 1: finding his draft classes and what he does with his
Speaker 1: picks as well. So that said, I have a few
Speaker 1: notes here for you guys. First, Talisi Fuaka from Oregon
Speaker 1: State was my favorite player going into this game. He's
Speaker 1: not going to be available. He's a top ten pick,
Speaker 1: forget about it. He's the best right tackle in the class.
Speaker 1: He can play left tackle. He's got smooth, smooth transition.
Speaker 1: In fact, there was a report that came up with
Speaker 1: the Jets love this. I don't think he'll be available
Speaker 1: for that picked number ten. I think he's gonna be
Speaker 1: to first tackle off the board. Quite frankly, he is
Speaker 1: an elite, elite prospect. And speaking of the Jets, there's
Speaker 1: an article by Diana Rossini that came out on Wednesday
Speaker 1: about how dysfunctional they are.
Speaker 2: I freaking told you, I freaking told you.
Speaker 1: I told Did I not tell you that all all
Speaker 1: last offseason? I don't like to say I told you, so, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I kind of do, actually, but this time I love
Speaker 1: saying it.
Speaker 2: So there you go.
Speaker 1: Tellisi Fuaga dominant dominant player to Liatu Lata.
Speaker 2: I think I got that right. I should probably look
Speaker 2: that up.
Speaker 1: The UCLA kid who basically ruined WSU season by having
Speaker 1: twenty four pressures like I don't know what it was,
Speaker 1: but it was a lot of pressures. He reminds me
Speaker 1: of Jeln Phillips, but with a little more technician, a
Speaker 1: little less pop and physicality. But man, he's right on
Speaker 1: that track. I think he's long gone before our pick.
Speaker 1: He's the best pass rusher out there. I had two
Speaker 1: notes or a note here about a player I didn't
Speaker 1: like because I saw a bunch of pop on him.
Speaker 1: Brendan Rice from usc does he is he strapped to
Speaker 1: a backboard, the stiffest player I've ever seen in my
Speaker 1: entire life, like Pops did not rap off on Homie. Okay,
Speaker 1: the rest of my notes, I put more extensive notes
Speaker 1: in my notepad on my phone to go ahead and
Speaker 1: pull that up. So here's here's the guys that I
Speaker 1: had noted four or against for the Dolphins. So Oklahoma
Speaker 1: offensive tackle Tyler Geydon. I think he'll be gone before
Speaker 1: pick twenty one because he's six foot seven, three hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty pounds and he has those laram me tons
Speaker 1: will typewriter feet. Not that good a feat, but he's
Speaker 1: pretty smooth man, easy change of direction, can doesn't lose
Speaker 1: his cleats in the ground. He throws that punch so
Speaker 1: he can really get off of his spot quickly and
Speaker 1: redirect and has a very powerful punch.
Speaker 2: When he times that thing right, it's so deadly.
Speaker 1: I think he's a top twenty pick and he's gonna
Speaker 1: be one of eight or nine offensive tackles taken in
Speaker 1: the first round of this year's draft class. It is
Speaker 1: loaded on the offensive line guys, and Tyler Goidon looks
Speaker 1: like one of the best ones in the entire group.
Speaker 1: Speaking of guys that are best in the entire group,
Speaker 1: I think this is my favorite.
Speaker 2: Actually check that.
Speaker 1: I know for a fact this is my favorite player
Speaker 1: so far, and you guys know who it is. Jackson Powers,
Speaker 1: Johnson Man JPJ. Holy crap. If he doesn't remind me
Speaker 1: of Christian Wilkins, then damn it. Like I bet if
Speaker 1: you miked him up, you'd hear him screaming football for
Speaker 1: an entire practice. During the two pag two bag punch
Speaker 1: drill where you punch right, punch left, punch right, punch left,
Speaker 1: I saw him do the drill and then run back
Speaker 1: in line to try to get on the bag. That's
Speaker 1: not how the flow of that drill works. You're going upstream,
Speaker 1: my friend. It goes hold the bag, do the drill,
Speaker 1: go to the end of the line. But this guy
Speaker 1: wants to be doing things at all time on the
Speaker 1: football field. He was that way the entire day. He
Speaker 1: wants to play. He bounced around from every period to
Speaker 1: every period. Everything was hustle to him. His retrace, get
Speaker 1: back to the line, scrimmage, just want to one. Everything
Speaker 1: was just on ten at all times and aside from
Speaker 1: that the football player like he's the best player out there.
Speaker 1: Everything is second nature to him. I saw Daniel Jeremiah
Speaker 1: say it's hard to find holes in his game. In
Speaker 1: his top fifty, he just produced what you go read
Speaker 1: that if you haven't done that so far or yet
Speaker 1: so repet center where he didn't anchor super early and
Speaker 1: it allowed him to keep the feet active to reposition
Speaker 1: until he could find an acre points.
Speaker 2: So like there's no panic in his game. It's all calm.
Speaker 2: Then he played a repiic.
Speaker 1: Guard where he saw a move that the three technique
Speaker 1: rushed his outside shoulder and that was the only place
Speaker 1: he could get too. So he opens his hips and
Speaker 1: does this drop step once again, calmly getting to the
Speaker 1: spot before throwing the hands or getting out over his skis,
Speaker 1: and he gets into this depth to cut him off
Speaker 1: at the pass, and if he redirects the pass rusher,
Speaker 1: he can just flip the other hip and do a
Speaker 1: drop step in the other direction. He is a perfect prospect.
Speaker 1: And the reason I love him so much is because
Speaker 1: you get.
Speaker 2: I talked about on the Monday podcast.
Speaker 1: I think you get Connor Williams athletic ability, but you
Speaker 1: get I think even more toughness.
Speaker 2: I think you get.
Speaker 1: You definitely get thirty more or twenty five more pounds,
Speaker 1: which gives you so much more power. There was a
Speaker 1: pass a Bowl rush move on the interior. It was
Speaker 1: only a two ninety five pound Clemson defensive line if
Speaker 1: forget his name, but he just completely thwart the power.
Speaker 1: So you can thwart power and goal line, you can
Speaker 1: displace a one shade and short yardage. You can lead
Speaker 1: a chan out wide and end around. This guy is
Speaker 1: the perfect player for the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 2: Okay, we understand that.
Speaker 1: Let's see another thing I've noticed about these Senior Bowls
Speaker 1: or I've been doing this since twenty sixteen was my
Speaker 1: first year, like scouting these and doing reporting them every
Speaker 1: single podcast. Every year, there's at least one receiver who
Speaker 1: comes in and is immediately productive but also has a long,
Speaker 1: very good career in the NFL. And again Dane Jeremiah said,
Speaker 1: the common threat across all those great receivers to come
Speaker 1: out of the Senior Bowl is their toughness. And last
Speaker 1: last year Puka Nakua. Two years ago, probably the down
Speaker 1: year was Romeo Dobbs, Khalil Shakur and Jehan Dotson, Like, that's.
Speaker 2: Three good receivers two years ago or three years before.
Speaker 1: A year before that Geez Davante Smith and Nico Collins
Speaker 1: to the best receivers in the NFL. Before that, Brandon
Speaker 1: Ayyuk the niners number one receiver, and Michael Pittman for
Speaker 1: the Colts. The year before that Terry McLaurin and Deebo
Speaker 1: Samuel blew the doors off the Senior Bowl, and then
Speaker 1: DJ Shark and Michael Gallup. And the year before that
Speaker 1: was Cooper Cup. And I mentioned Cooper Cup because Roman
Speaker 1: Wilson kind of reminds me of his pass catching and
Speaker 1: toughness ability, Like he is a Jarvis Landry clone in
Speaker 1: the sense that he's gonna go stick his face in
Speaker 1: the fan. Let's go Oj McDuffie a better player, Oji McDuffie.
Speaker 1: He's gonna put his face in the fan in the
Speaker 1: hook zone, make a tough catch and get blown up
Speaker 1: and hang on for a first down. But wait, and
Speaker 1: Juice always loves talking about his lack of foot speed.
Speaker 1: Roman Wilson's gonna clock a four to three eight, like
Speaker 1: that's what he ran at Michigan. He's a plus twenty
Speaker 1: mile prior runner and the way he understands his leverage
Speaker 1: and leans into guys and breaks off those routes. I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be that next guy from the Senior
Speaker 1: Bowl that becomes an instant star and instant hit. And
Speaker 1: Jim Naggey compared him to Tyler Lockett. That's a great
Speaker 1: comp I think, And I kind of think the way
Speaker 1: he runs his routes is sort of is sort of
Speaker 1: Gaylan Waddle and Tyreek Hill. There's a nuance and detail
Speaker 1: into those routes on top of electric electric fying speed.
Speaker 1: And I know I talked about size and the ability
Speaker 1: to go win tough balls inside. That's a big key
Speaker 1: for me this offseason, but I don't care if you
Speaker 1: can do it with quickness and with just pure route running,
Speaker 1: and that's what Roman Wilson from Michigan can do. He's
Speaker 1: only five to eleven, one ninety, but we had so
Speaker 1: many instances this year. We had one on one matchups
Speaker 1: inside to convert third downs when Wabble or Hill was
Speaker 1: not on the field, are not available, and we just
Speaker 1: never ever could do it. This guy would be your answer,
Speaker 1: probably gonna cost you a second round pick, but I
Speaker 1: would be thrilled to go. Jackson Powers, Johnson Roman Wilson
Speaker 1: offense is done. Not quite Dune, but it's almost done
Speaker 1: to me, if you can make those two things happen.
Speaker 1: So that's my notes on the day one of the
Speaker 1: American team practice. Friday's gonna be a lot of Senior
Speaker 1: Bowl notes. Will also break down the I Believe and
Speaker 1: Shoer your defensive line position. All that coming up on Friday.
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