WEBVTT - Drive Time: 2023 Offensive Line Review and Senior Bowl Notes

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<v Speaker 1>To on remove going deep Speedways, Peace Doll peasd From

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<v Speaker 1>the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gone my hands in the playoffs?

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<v Speaker 2>What is up?

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<v Speaker 1>Dolph fans and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast. I

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<v Speaker 1>am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show, we

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<v Speaker 1>are at the halfway point of the twenty twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>exit interviews series and we arrive at the largest one

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<v Speaker 1>both in stature and in quantity. We'll assess the offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line play in twenty twenty three, an initial primer heading

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty four, and we'll talk about day one

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<v Speaker 1>of Senior Bowl practices where two of my favorite players

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<v Speaker 1>on the field were.

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<v Speaker 2>You just guessed it on the offensive line From.

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<v Speaker 1>The Baptist Health Studios inside the back Just Health Training Complex.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Drive Time Podcast. Maggie G.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much, Caroline, as we jump into the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line review for twenty twenty three. First, real quick,

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<v Speaker 1>just want to go ahead and let you guys know

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<v Speaker 1>I am tracking all these defensive coordinator interviews that are

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<v Speaker 1>being reported to have occurred down here in Miami Gardens

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<v Speaker 1>or elsewhere we'll go ahead and get you a more

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<v Speaker 1>comprehensive look at that as we go along. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to just tell you about the names that have

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<v Speaker 1>come across, which there are plenty. I believe five of

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<v Speaker 1>the seven names that have been reportedly attached to the

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<v Speaker 1>Miami Dolphins have worked in the past with head coach

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<v Speaker 1>Mike McDaniel. But in the past, like Lockdown Dolphins, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my whole thing was to be the best and to

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<v Speaker 1>be first with everything, and sometimes that's not always possible,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in this position that I currently hold with the team,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just like to be completely transparent with you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always available to me to talk about reported names,

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<v Speaker 1>So I just want to let you guys know that

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<v Speaker 1>the work be done and you'll get a comprehensive look

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<v Speaker 1>back once we find out who that guy is, and

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<v Speaker 1>probably ahead of that as well as we kind of

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<v Speaker 1>assess some of the finalists. I think as we get

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<v Speaker 1>closer to naming a new defensive coordinator in place of

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<v Speaker 1>Krusty Vick, so let's go ahead and take a look

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<v Speaker 1>at this Dolphins offensive line and review this position group

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<v Speaker 1>and do a whole podcast out of this and talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the Senior Bowl practice today because quite frankly, I

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<v Speaker 1>think this offensive line class is going to a produce

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<v Speaker 1>a surefire starter at pick twenty one on your team,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think this team could definitely use that. And

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<v Speaker 1>be even more important is that I think that this

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<v Speaker 1>class will provide not just depth deep into the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>but man, I think there's not just like a surefire

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<v Speaker 1>starter potential, like multiple time Pro Bowl Hall of Fame

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<v Speaker 1>type of talent within this class. I'll tell you right now,

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<v Speaker 1>the two guys I'm going to talk about the most

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<v Speaker 1>are Talise Fuaga from Oregon State at the tackle and

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson Powers Johnson, the center from Oregon, who I think

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<v Speaker 1>think are both Pro bowlers as rookies. I think one's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a top ten pick. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>other one might be a top twenty pick. Hopefully he

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<v Speaker 1>makes to pick twenty one. We'll get to all that

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<v Speaker 1>here in a second, but first let's go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>review Dolphins offensive line from last year. We go in

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<v Speaker 1>order of who took the most snaps, right, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was Austin Jackson. This year, he had six hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>thirty nine pass block snaps and twenty six pressures allowed.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a pbe pass block efficiency of ninety seven

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<v Speaker 1>point five, and in hindsight, I'm not sure there was

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<v Speaker 1>a more needed development than Austin Jackson realizing his potential

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<v Speaker 1>this season, aside from two a tongue by Lowa and

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<v Speaker 1>the growth that he took this year. Leap he took

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<v Speaker 1>this year, I should say, in the growth he's shown.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's not make this to a podcast, but you get

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. You think about the current makeup of

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive line, plenty of questions mark right with there

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<v Speaker 1>are some built in solutions that you could say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>they have these question marks, but this is what they

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<v Speaker 1>could do. And that's true, but there are just a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things that we don't know right now that

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<v Speaker 1>will have to be kind of uncovered over the next

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<v Speaker 1>couple of months. We go here and rebuild this roster

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty twenty four and for Austin to go from

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<v Speaker 1>relatively unknown off of a very tough twenty twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>campaign where he bounced around and play well, and then

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty twenty two season that saw him take fewer

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<v Speaker 1>than sixty snaps with essentially a season ending injury, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he came back from that and reaggravated it and

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<v Speaker 1>ended the season totally and played less than sixty snaps.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff like this is why nobody is ever good at

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<v Speaker 1>predicting what happens in the NFL. This happens in every

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<v Speaker 1>position room on every team across the entire league. You

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<v Speaker 1>think you know, but you really have no idea. Now

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<v Speaker 1>that's my diatribe. How about a credit to the work

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<v Speaker 1>Austin put in so in our cafeteria here at Miami Gardens,

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<v Speaker 1>at the Baptist Hill Training Complex, we have these massive

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<v Speaker 1>bay windows. Like most practice facilities do, I think the

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<v Speaker 1>modern ones at least they look out over the practice field.

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<v Speaker 1>I think back to the Davy facility and Ryan Tannehill

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<v Speaker 1>staring out over the practice field after tearing his ACL

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<v Speaker 1>in training camp twenty seventeen like his dog just died,

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<v Speaker 1>because really it did, and our season just died that day.

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<v Speaker 1>All off season when AJ wasn't working during OTAs or

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<v Speaker 1>even on days we were not on the practice field,

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<v Speaker 1>what would you see when you would go down there

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<v Speaker 1>for your chicken thighs on a bow bun or hibachi

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<v Speaker 1>Mongolian steak from the Great Aunt Anthony behind the grill?

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<v Speaker 1>What would you see you would see Austin with a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of trainers working on the practice field, with his

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<v Speaker 1>teammates in the cafeteria. This dude put in the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and then when you hear him talk at a press conference,

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<v Speaker 1>you can just see it right, not just the physical statue, which,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, he looked so much better this year

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<v Speaker 1>than he ever has, just toned up, still large, but

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<v Speaker 1>like six pack. He kind of reminded me of Jake

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<v Speaker 1>Long when he came in to the league at three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and thirty pounds and had abs like what he

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<v Speaker 1>looked just built in a lab. But the way that

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<v Speaker 1>he processes things and can communicate football intricacies.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if he'll want to coach in.

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<v Speaker 1>His post playing career because he kind of communicates like

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<v Speaker 1>a coach does. It's the reason why I voted for

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<v Speaker 1>him as one of my top three guys in the

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<v Speaker 1>good Guy ballot just for your awareness. I went Jalen Phillips,

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<v Speaker 1>I went alec Ingold, and when Austin Jackson or he

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<v Speaker 1>most it was my fourth pick and he actually won

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<v Speaker 1>the damn thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But those guys were my tops.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Austin Jackson, the way he dealt with the

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<v Speaker 1>media after the things that they all said about him

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<v Speaker 1>was really impressive.

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<v Speaker 2>I digress.

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<v Speaker 1>So you have the body, the physical skills, the mental aptitude,

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<v Speaker 1>how about the tape. To me, what Austin did this

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<v Speaker 1>year was get all of the mechanics operating with an orchestra.

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<v Speaker 1>The punch matched, the correct foot drive, the hips popped

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<v Speaker 1>at the right time. I think that's a credit to

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<v Speaker 1>butcher Berry. I think it's a credit to Austin for

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<v Speaker 1>drilling it like this stuff doesn't become overnight. Second Nature's

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<v Speaker 1>like a golf swing, right. Repetition's the only way you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to step up to a two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>yard approach shot with sand and water as potential hazards

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<v Speaker 1>off either side, with the confidence that you're gonna put

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<v Speaker 1>that thing within ten feet on the putting surface every

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<v Speaker 1>single time. I think the thing that stood out with

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<v Speaker 1>Austin for me was how he recovered when he would

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<v Speaker 1>lose reps Initially. Like in the past, a bad rep

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<v Speaker 1>could sort of unravel and ultimately lead to big hits

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<v Speaker 1>on your quarter back and broken plays. But if he

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<v Speaker 1>lost the initial leverage battle, if his base was too

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<v Speaker 1>wide and he got displaced, he would recover, he would

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<v Speaker 1>get back to those mechanics and compete to at least

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<v Speaker 1>a draw so that he could keep his quarterback afloat right.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes that's all it takes.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not going to win every single rep against someone

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<v Speaker 1>like Max Crosby for thirty straight pass rush naps. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to just wall him off every time. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you have to find a way to protect your quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought Austin did that all year long, and

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<v Speaker 1>so as one of the let's call it what it is,

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<v Speaker 1>premiere pass protecting tackles in the National Football League this year,

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<v Speaker 1>he harnessed something we had already seen on tape, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was his mauling presence in the running game. It's

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<v Speaker 1>funny because he's so soft spoken when you get to

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<v Speaker 1>know him and just kind of chill, but he's, for

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<v Speaker 1>lack of a better term, he's an asshole on the

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<v Speaker 1>football field. He finishes through the echo of the whistle.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll just beat you up and then celebrate after he

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<v Speaker 1>does it.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. You need players like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think where he can go even another step this

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<v Speaker 1>year is just the traditional pass set victories. It was

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<v Speaker 1>very good, but maybe we can become even better and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, become one of the top couple of right

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<v Speaker 1>tackles in the NFL, because if we can get to

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<v Speaker 1>third and nine and just shut guys down to a

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<v Speaker 1>standstill and give two up three four seconds to throw

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<v Speaker 1>the football, we're gonna destroy teams. And he's already close.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm glad we got his deal done. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a huge fan of this player and of this man,

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<v Speaker 1>and of the contract. We gave him twelve million a

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<v Speaker 1>year for a guy that probably, if he plays like

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<v Speaker 1>that again next year, would get twenty five or twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five twenty million on the open market. Like that could

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<v Speaker 1>potentially be a massive, massive boom for the Dolphins team.

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<v Speaker 1>And to contextualize his season, I mentioned to Crosby, right,

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<v Speaker 1>did you know that Max had one cleanup sack in

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<v Speaker 1>that week eleven game against US didn't go against Austin Jackson,

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<v Speaker 1>But it was a sack. It was a scramble play

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<v Speaker 1>where two got like he got him like a yard

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<v Speaker 1>behind the line after a scramble, so it wasn't even

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<v Speaker 1>a big play. They didn't charge the sack to Austin

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<v Speaker 1>and in fact, he was hit with just one pressure

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<v Speaker 1>in the game on forty two pass blocking snaps in

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<v Speaker 1>that game twenty five against Max Crosby.

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<v Speaker 2>That's elite work there.

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<v Speaker 1>He also had one or zero pressures allowed games against

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<v Speaker 1>Buffalo and Gregory Russa, the Giants Caveon Thibodeaux, Carolina, Brian Burns, Philadelphia,

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<v Speaker 1>Hassan Reddick, the Jets with Bryce Huff and Jermaine Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>and John Franklin Myers, the Jets again, and then Buffalo again.

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<v Speaker 1>He allowed two or fewer pressures in all but three

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<v Speaker 1>games this year. The opener against the Chargers, which I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was scored kind of weird. Baltimore he allowed

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<v Speaker 1>four in that game. We all got beat up in

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<v Speaker 1>that game.

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<v Speaker 2>And Casey in the playoffs he allowed five. We all

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<v Speaker 2>sucked in that game too.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty five offensive tackles allowed more pressures than Austin Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>this year. He played all of the games but won right. So,

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<v Speaker 1>out of the sixty four designated starting spots for tackles,

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<v Speaker 1>you think all those guys play every game.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, the ninety seven point five PBE was twelfth

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<v Speaker 1>among offensive tackles who played at least three hundred pass

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<v Speaker 1>blocking snaps, and like the names ahead of him, this

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<v Speaker 1>is left tackle and right tackle by the way to

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<v Speaker 1>Ron Armstead, Pine Sewel, Trent Williams, Tristan Wurfs, Tyron Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>Braden Smith, Caleb Gary, Colt Miller, Laramie Tunzel. These are

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<v Speaker 1>the best tackle with the NFL guys. That's where he

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<v Speaker 1>is right now. Number seven Liam Mikenberger's is not there?

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<v Speaker 1>Five hundred and twenty six pass blocking snaps, twenty four pressures,

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<v Speaker 1>a ninety seven point one pass block efficiency. Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and just rip this band aid off right off

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<v Speaker 1>the top.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>See seventy four at center anymore. Fair Like, look, commendables,

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<v Speaker 1>hell the job he did there. As much as I've

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<v Speaker 1>supported the roster building, I mean, I mean, how can

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<v Speaker 1>you not. I know we lost in the playoffs again,

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<v Speaker 1>but this roster, this last couple of years has been

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best in the National Football League. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the biggest air this year was the negligence at

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<v Speaker 1>backup center. And you don't have to have an all

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<v Speaker 1>pro there. In fact, there's like ten good centers on

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<v Speaker 1>the planet, but to not have anyone on the roster

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<v Speaker 1>seemed a little bit ill faded.

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<v Speaker 2>And look, Dan Feeney didn't like go on to be

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<v Speaker 2>a Pro Bowl or somewhere. Didn't even play in this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Wherever he it was the Bears, right, But that was

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<v Speaker 1>just a strange move to ship him off on the

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<v Speaker 1>eve of the season because all year we saw what

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<v Speaker 1>happened when we lost Connor. Even if I think Connor

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<v Speaker 1>inherently gives you a little bit of a miss on

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<v Speaker 1>something you need inside that was uncovered this year.

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<v Speaker 2>More on that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>But Liam was constantly out of play, off balance, just

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<v Speaker 1>getting railroaded or on the ground. You can't win football

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<v Speaker 1>games that way. I do think you have to commend

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<v Speaker 1>him for his toughness, because this was a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>was limping around after games and gutting it through practices

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<v Speaker 1>to give us, you know, sixty plus snaps every single game.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't miss like he was out there for us.

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<v Speaker 1>He was just very tough that way, and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>it limited his range of mobility, but man, when he

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<v Speaker 1>needed him out there instead of a guy that was

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<v Speaker 1>a late season off the street for agent who hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>played a snap in the NFL in years, Liam was

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<v Speaker 1>there for us, and I thought where he was best

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<v Speaker 1>was it the guard position. When Isaiah Winn got hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>and Connor returned for the Chiefs game back in November

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<v Speaker 1>and he kicked out to left guard, and now, of

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<v Speaker 1>course he had to slide back into the right guard

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<v Speaker 1>role when we lost Probert Hunt that same week for

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<v Speaker 1>a few weeks. Then he went right guard, right guard,

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<v Speaker 1>left guard for Vegas Jets in Washington, that's where I

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<v Speaker 1>thought he was playing his best football, and it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of coincided with mid season last year when he got hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>playing his best ball in that same position at left guard.

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<v Speaker 1>And man, when I think about the lead that Austin

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<v Speaker 1>took last year for a guy who came out one

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<v Speaker 1>year later, albeit probably more polished product than what Austin

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson was with a ton more snaps in full four

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<v Speaker 1>years another dame, I don't think it's crazy to think

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<v Speaker 1>that it's possible that Liam can take all those lessons,

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<v Speaker 1>a full off season of training, the various spots played

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<v Speaker 1>and get even better next year, because during that stretch

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was starting guard quality, backup center quality

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<v Speaker 1>at best. And if you can get that plus a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more for a guy that's on the fourth

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<v Speaker 1>year of that rookie deal, like if you get Liam Eickenbergers.

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<v Speaker 2>You're starting left guard, and it's not like, oh no,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Liam, It's like, oh Liam's there.

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<v Speaker 1>Good. If you get that on his contract for this year,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be a massive, massive win for the way

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<v Speaker 1>that Dolphins want to build the roster this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you bank on it?

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't, But I think that you can build this

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<v Speaker 1>thing in a way that creates contingencies where Liam is

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<v Speaker 1>afforded that opportunity, because I'm not sure if he's capable

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<v Speaker 1>of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's a lot to be refined. Though the

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<v Speaker 2>technique is inconsistent.

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<v Speaker 1>He can get overpowered, he falls off blocks way too easily,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's always on the ground. Another classic case of

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<v Speaker 1>guy on the ground, right, But I deally, You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you spend something like, I don't know, five million

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<v Speaker 1>on a starter there, if it's Isaiah Win or if

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, a free agent off the street, you

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<v Speaker 1>re sign Rob Hunt, You let Connor Williams walk, and

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<v Speaker 1>you draft either Zach Frazier or Jackson Powers Johnson. Liam

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<v Speaker 1>becomes the top interior guy off the bench, and he

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be better, but we kind of need him.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a weird spot to be in This is the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of player in a league where you there just

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<v Speaker 1>aren't enough good offensive line for Edwin to have five,

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<v Speaker 1>much less six seven eight players that are good at

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<v Speaker 1>this position group. And when you consider his contract, man like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be that's gonna provide value for this team

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<v Speaker 1>next year, so he'll be here. What he becomes as

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<v Speaker 1>a player could be a critical critical mission here for.

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<v Speaker 2>The Miami Dolphins. More on that in the Isaiah Win portion.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go ahead and finish up the first second here

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<v Speaker 1>with a quick note on the player sixty six Lester Cotton,

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred and sixty two snaps in pass protection, twenty pressures.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a ninety six point seven pbe pretty wild

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<v Speaker 1>journey for him to go from not playing last year

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<v Speaker 1>to starting a playoff game and then getting buried in

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<v Speaker 1>the depth chart this summer, probably probably rightfully so, and

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<v Speaker 1>then to work his way into the seventh most snaps

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<v Speaker 1>on the entire offensive side of the football. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he got better in certain things like picking up certain

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<v Speaker 1>games and twists, but it got to a point on

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<v Speaker 1>tape where I just like couldn't watch it anymore because

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<v Speaker 1>you guys heard it all year long, falling off blocks,

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<v Speaker 1>unable to locate those backside seals that provided big runs.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the attrition that forced this player onto the

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<v Speaker 1>field cost you hundreds, hundreds of rushing yards and as

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<v Speaker 1>a result, conversions points and eventually wins big big gripe

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<v Speaker 1>with a snap count for this player, I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was a big hole on the roster this year. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and take our first break right there, come

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<v Speaker 1>back on the other side and finish up the offensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all next Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield,

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<v Speaker 1>brought to you by Auto Nation. Three players into our

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three offensive line review. Several more to go here,

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<v Speaker 1>starting with Kendall lam number seventy who again, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>in order of snaps played, so Austin Jackson, Lea Mikenberg,

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<v Speaker 1>Lester Cotton, Kendall Lamb. If I told you that going

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<v Speaker 1>into the season, you would have said Travis's team is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go eight to nine. He played three hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty seven pass blocking snaps and allowed twenty pressures. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a ninety six point five pbe and it sure is

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<v Speaker 1>nice when you see thirty two snaps of a guy

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty two and think, man, that was pretty good,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you can roll that over into six hundred

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<v Speaker 1>snaps and the eighth most on your offense, fourth most

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<v Speaker 1>on the offensive line. It started in Week one right,

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<v Speaker 1>just shut down Khalil Mack time and time again. I

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<v Speaker 1>think those true pass sets are his best trait. A

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<v Speaker 1>veteran savvy to have the combination of nasty but also

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<v Speaker 1>the little tricks of the position that you see the

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<v Speaker 1>older heads so well versed in, like a toront Armstead,

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<v Speaker 1>go short in the runway on a wide nine, extract

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<v Speaker 1>the pass rush moved by a dummy punch while you

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<v Speaker 1>get your depth and set up your pass set, redirecting

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<v Speaker 1>on a guy in a way that gets his leverage

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<v Speaker 1>so out of balance, he just goes to the ground

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<v Speaker 1>and you follow him to end the rep right there.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think Kendall won so many of his reps

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<v Speaker 1>before the ball was even snapped, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a valuable depth piece. And I'm really curious to see

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<v Speaker 1>what they do here. He seems to me like the

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<v Speaker 1>ideal perfect swing tackle. Federan presence has been largely available

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<v Speaker 1>to you, kind of has some stuff to him, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've got my guy seth level would say on the

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<v Speaker 1>Fish Tank podcast with Oja McDuffie, go ahead and check

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<v Speaker 1>out their podcast, and just his veteran experience is valuable

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<v Speaker 1>for the young guys as well. And again, I think

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest downgrade we saw with the shuffled offensive lines

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't in the past pro It was the surge in

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<v Speaker 1>the running game or lack thereof. When we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>it on the Monday podcast about how the Ravens defensive ability,

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<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs defensibility to come downhill and collision at the

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<v Speaker 1>line of scrimmage and get forward, push and not get

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<v Speaker 1>knocked back, to give yourself second and nine, a post

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<v Speaker 1>a second and five. That changes the equation for the

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<v Speaker 1>opposing offense right like you're gonna go from single high

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<v Speaker 1>to too high with that additional.

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<v Speaker 2>Yardage you have in your back pocket.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's where I think Miami's entire operation began to

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<v Speaker 1>fold in on itself.

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<v Speaker 2>The inability to.

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<v Speaker 1>Run the ball in early downs and the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thinking of McDaniel pivoting towards more early down runs, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think was a mistake. Throw the football early, run

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<v Speaker 1>the ball to convert short yards in that type of situation.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Miami's inability to do so with their commitment

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<v Speaker 1>to do so in the running game was where the

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<v Speaker 1>offense got behind what it does best, and it put

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<v Speaker 1>them in all these true pass drop sets, which is

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<v Speaker 1>not it's not designed to live off of those. No

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<v Speaker 1>offense is. But they were consistently in those looks down

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<v Speaker 1>the stretch, and I think the interior three offensive lines

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<v Speaker 1>inability to get pushed in the running game was the

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<v Speaker 1>main culprit for that. On top of not enough separators

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<v Speaker 1>beyond ten and seventeen, with seventeen being out for so

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<v Speaker 1>many games late in the year and practice rep so

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<v Speaker 1>many late in the year, beyond the quarterback not playing

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<v Speaker 1>well enough, I think this was one of the core

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<v Speaker 1>issues you had this year. And Kendall, didn't, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>give us a lot of range in the in the

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<v Speaker 1>running game or pop as that starter left tackle. But

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<v Speaker 1>and when you went with him Cotton and Lamb or

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<v Speaker 1>like or with him Cotton to Lium, I should say

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<v Speaker 1>we left so many rushing yards out there with one

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<v Speaker 1>of those three losing a rep and costing us to gain.

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<v Speaker 1>Now again, our tackles performed super well in their pass

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<v Speaker 1>pro metrics. The ninety six point five Ppe was actually

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<v Speaker 1>tied for thirty fifth among all tackles and again sixty

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<v Speaker 1>four tackle spots, right, So for your third to finish there,

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<v Speaker 1>that is very very very good. But also something else

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<v Speaker 1>to consider in your off season projections and evaluations. If

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<v Speaker 1>you add Keion and remove the snap stipulations, that's four

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<v Speaker 1>tackles in that top thirty five range. That's why I

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<v Speaker 1>think the interior offensive line's more important for us in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of getting rock solid in that position because they've

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<v Speaker 1>shown the ability this coaching staff and this team to

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<v Speaker 1>mitigate tackle quote unquote holes, not as much at guard

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<v Speaker 1>and center. And that's system based, right. You can get

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<v Speaker 1>those tight ends and wide receiver crackbacks to help those guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and the chips and all the things you do to

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<v Speaker 1>help on the perimeter.

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<v Speaker 2>Inside, it's kind of on those guys and the.

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<v Speaker 1>Quarterback and the running back, and we're just built so

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<v Speaker 1>much better for helping on the outside than we are

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<v Speaker 1>on the inside. Food for thought Number sixty eight, Robert Hunt,

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<v Speaker 1>this is your best player and he played the fifth

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<v Speaker 1>most snaps.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven hundred or rather three hundred and seventy six pass

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<v Speaker 1>block snaps, five pressures, that's ninety nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Point two pass block efficiency.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Rob was destined for Pro Bowls the first

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<v Speaker 1>time I plugged on his UL tape, comically steamrolling dudes,

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<v Speaker 1>tossing them out of the club. And boy, let me

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, four years into his Dolphins tape, we've gotten

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<v Speaker 1>the exact same thing. Think we missed him more than

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<v Speaker 1>anybody else when he was down with that hamstring injury

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<v Speaker 1>that lingered like damn it. When he was right versus Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>we rolled that game the last time the offense looked

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<v Speaker 1>like the offense right. Then he aggravates it and we

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<v Speaker 1>only get in for the playoff game, Like this is

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<v Speaker 1>what I was talking about. A guy who hadn't missed

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<v Speaker 1>a game in three years plays just two of the

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<v Speaker 1>final nine of this critical season.

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<v Speaker 2>That's tough.

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<v Speaker 1>But Rob's a nasty, mauling, frequent pancake artist who finds

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<v Speaker 1>ribs and gets himself some big kill shots just Barry's.

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<v Speaker 2>Dudes with raw.

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<v Speaker 1>Strength and uses that defensive line want to rush half

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<v Speaker 1>the man so they can just work off one of

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<v Speaker 1>your shoulders and not try to rush through your entire frame.

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<v Speaker 1>He uses that technique to his advantage, and guys who

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<v Speaker 1>don't pack the requisite power. He just has the wherewithal

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<v Speaker 1>to bury them and say you're not gonna rush half

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<v Speaker 1>of mem You're gonna I'm gonna win with the half

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<v Speaker 1>of my body here and the strength I have on

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<v Speaker 1>my left or right side, finding, you know, help when

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have an assignment on top of elite one

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<v Speaker 1>versus one work in that department. You'll venture to guess

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<v Speaker 1>how many guards had a better pass block efficiency than

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Hunt.

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<v Speaker 2>The answer is zero.

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<v Speaker 1>He finished a half point better than second place Brandon

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<v Speaker 1>Sheriff among guards with at least three hundred pass blocking snaps.

0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:36.919
<v Speaker 1>Win was actually next, but he didn't qualify for that.

0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:41.360
<v Speaker 1>That group includes Shurf, Tyler Smith, Chris Lenstrom, Hellodi v Tie,

0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:44.280
<v Speaker 1>Quentin Nelson, and on the best guards in football. I

0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:46.959
<v Speaker 1>think Rob has taken to a system that he's familiar with,

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<v Speaker 1>that he ran in college, that he utilizes his athletic

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<v Speaker 1>ability within it, but also gives us the pop and

0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:55.280
<v Speaker 1>temperament at the position we need to really grind teams

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<v Speaker 1>down late in the game with the running game.

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<v Speaker 2>I love his game. No complaints.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, if there was one, it's that every like two

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<v Speaker 1>or three games he has a big whiff on a

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<v Speaker 1>free run, typically off of a game, like a stunt

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<v Speaker 1>or a twist.

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<v Speaker 2>But you live at that because otherwise he's just dominant.

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<v Speaker 1>And look, I'm not negotiating deals here, but he's my priority.

0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Re sign number seventy two t Ron Armstead three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and sixty four PB snaps seven pressures a ninety eight

0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:21.159
<v Speaker 1>point nine PBE. I think if you asked Taran he

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<v Speaker 1>would tell you this year was a down year for him,

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<v Speaker 1>and in that down year, he was number one among

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<v Speaker 1>tackles in.

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<v Speaker 2>Past block efficiency.

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<v Speaker 1>It just tells you how damn good this player is

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<v Speaker 1>and has been his whole career. Remember when he made

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<v Speaker 1>his debut on the season versus the Broncos and we

0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:36.439
<v Speaker 1>posted seventy points with all those big plays around the

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<v Speaker 1>corner where he's putting dutes on their back and wiping

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<v Speaker 1>out the entire edge. He's probably the best pass protecting

0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:46.320
<v Speaker 1>left tackle of the last decade. Like Joe Thomas handing

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<v Speaker 1>over that throne. I mean, he's right there. If he's

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<v Speaker 1>not him, he is him. I do think there were

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<v Speaker 1>more reps this year where he just flat out got

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<v Speaker 1>beat for a sack, and by more we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>like two or three versus zero. I just think he

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<v Speaker 1>wore down a little bit there. The body kind of

0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:01.439
<v Speaker 1>gave up on him a little bit in certain spots

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<v Speaker 1>and especially in the running game as well. But you

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<v Speaker 1>guys have heard it all from me, right, the smartest

0:22:06.040 --> 0:22:08.480
<v Speaker 1>pass pro plan in the game, that great fake cut

0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:10.720
<v Speaker 1>block he threw at Micah Parsons to essentially win the

0:22:10.760 --> 0:22:13.680
<v Speaker 1>game on the Tyreek Hill screen on that Cowboys game

0:22:13.680 --> 0:22:16.240
<v Speaker 1>winning drive. I think that his ripple effect to the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the ruin the young guys might be his

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<v Speaker 1>most valuable asset that he features. He missed seven more

0:22:22.200 --> 0:22:24.600
<v Speaker 1>games this year, missed four last year. That's thirteen and

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<v Speaker 1>two years, almost a full season. Basically that was coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>And he doesn't practice too, which was a big sticking

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<v Speaker 1>point I had in a previous podcast, right, And that

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<v Speaker 1>was coming off a year where he missed nine missed

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<v Speaker 1>two and one in twenty nineteen and twenty eighteen, but

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<v Speaker 1>six games in twenty seventeen, nine more in twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just been his career and it kind of makes you,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes for a tricky situation because you know how

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<v Speaker 1>great he is, but you know the inevitability of his

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<v Speaker 1>injuries makes it so tough to value him as a

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<v Speaker 1>player because if you go forward with him at a

0:22:55.760 --> 0:22:58.960
<v Speaker 1>fourteen million dollar price tag, and that's just too much

0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:02.119
<v Speaker 1>to play ten games. If it's thirteen, I'd probably sign

0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:04.119
<v Speaker 1>it today if you could give me a crystal ball.

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<v Speaker 1>But do we think he'll start playing more games at

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<v Speaker 1>this stage of his career? And if a left guard

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<v Speaker 1>plan like I talked about earlier, like I could see

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<v Speaker 1>a situation where maybe you draft your left tackle or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever the case. Like Also, by the way, signing left tackle,

0:23:16.720 --> 0:23:19.640
<v Speaker 1>signing tackles, and free agency, Kyle Krabs has a great

0:23:19.800 --> 0:23:21.360
<v Speaker 1>segment on this. I'm sure he'll bring it up again

0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:23.760
<v Speaker 1>this year, where like signing offensive tackles top of the

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<v Speaker 1>market almost never works out, So food for thought there.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you do something at left tackle here, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you decide that one of the positions you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to gamble with on the offensive line, if it's

0:23:35.400 --> 0:23:40.040
<v Speaker 1>that like win Liam combination of we know wins great,

0:23:40.160 --> 0:23:42.159
<v Speaker 1>but we know he can't play half the season. We

0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:44.240
<v Speaker 1>know Liam has stretches, but we know that we can't

0:23:44.280 --> 0:23:46.920
<v Speaker 1>count his technique. Like you might take a gamble there.

0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:49.239
<v Speaker 1>If you do that, you cannot have Tron as your

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<v Speaker 1>left tackle because of the gamble that he inherently possesses.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just it's a lot of tough decisions are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to make. I think there's lots of right decisions,

0:23:57.080 --> 0:23:59.639
<v Speaker 1>but I don't envy those number fifty eight Connor Williams

0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:02.560
<v Speaker 1>two hundred and eighty pass block snaps, six pressures, ninety

0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:05.680
<v Speaker 1>eight points having pbe This is maybe the most interesting

0:24:05.720 --> 0:24:07.679
<v Speaker 1>situation in the league. And maybe I feel that way

0:24:07.720 --> 0:24:10.439
<v Speaker 1>because of my close proximity to these Miami Dolphins. But

0:24:10.480 --> 0:24:12.560
<v Speaker 1>how many teams have a player who tore his ACL

0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:15.320
<v Speaker 1>in December who are a great fit for their system.

0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:18.960
<v Speaker 1>But ultimately you talk about two not playing big enough

0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:21.000
<v Speaker 1>in big games, or Tyreek for that matter, in the

0:24:21.000 --> 0:24:23.679
<v Speaker 1>biggest games against the biggest competition, against the Ed Olivers

0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:28.520
<v Speaker 1>and Daikwon Jones, against the Jordan Davis and Fletcher Cox

0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:32.760
<v Speaker 1>and Jalen Carter, against the Chris Jones of the world,

0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:36.880
<v Speaker 1>against the Quincy Williams. He got kind of ran over

0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:38.960
<v Speaker 1>against bigger competition. And you want a top of the

0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:41.920
<v Speaker 1>market contract coming off of an ACL and December. It's

0:24:41.960 --> 0:24:44.280
<v Speaker 1>tricky man I think the last two years of center

0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:46.160
<v Speaker 1>play we got down here have been the best since

0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Mike Pouncy's prime years. And look, we certainly missed Connor

0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:51.040
<v Speaker 1>when he was out. One of the most athletic centers

0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:53.480
<v Speaker 1>in the National Football League. Opens up your options in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of your perimeter running game, your screen game, all

0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:58.240
<v Speaker 1>the stuff we do to stretch the defense horizontally to

0:24:58.320 --> 0:25:01.520
<v Speaker 1>the absolute limit. Connor exit amplifies that. I do think

0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:03.879
<v Speaker 1>there were some times against those bigger teams where he

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<v Speaker 1>got outmatched and that caused us to not have our

0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:08.439
<v Speaker 1>short yardage conversions, which has been a problem for two

0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:09.919
<v Speaker 1>years in a row. And if you go back to

0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:12.640
<v Speaker 1>training camp and watch Raykwon Davis, a very average player

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<v Speaker 1>at his position in terms of his production, get a

0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:16.720
<v Speaker 1>lot of pushback on Connor.

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<v Speaker 2>You kind of see that displayed there.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't say that's disparage Connor one because think

0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:22.280
<v Speaker 1>he's going to top five or six sentators in the

0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:23.439
<v Speaker 1>National Football League.

0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:25.200
<v Speaker 2>But it's an area that you have to get better at.

0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:27.919
<v Speaker 1>And I think that where he opens the playbook up,

0:25:27.920 --> 0:25:29.639
<v Speaker 1>where he gets you so many options, you have to

0:25:29.680 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 1>take all that into account. Because again, his PBE was

0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:35.040
<v Speaker 1>fourth among sentis, but at least two undred pass blocking

0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:39.400
<v Speaker 1>snaps finish just behind Jason Kelsey. But that's a real thing,

0:25:39.480 --> 0:25:41.680
<v Speaker 1>like we need to really be able to anchor against

0:25:41.720 --> 0:25:43.919
<v Speaker 1>bigger guys up front, especially with our quarterback and his

0:25:43.960 --> 0:25:44.760
<v Speaker 1>limited mobility.

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<v Speaker 2>Something to think about.

0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:48.720
<v Speaker 1>Number sixty five Robert Jones three hundred and four pass

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<v Speaker 1>block snaps, fourteen pressures, ninety seven point two pbe.

0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:53.000
<v Speaker 2>What a crazy year for this guy.

0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:55.679
<v Speaker 1>Right injury in the preseason after competing neck and neck

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:57.720
<v Speaker 1>for the left guard job. Does not see the field

0:25:57.800 --> 0:26:00.040
<v Speaker 1>until Week eight as a result of that injury, but

0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:01.640
<v Speaker 1>then steps into the start of for the next two games.

0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Left guard gets hurt again, comes back in week fourteen,

0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:07.040
<v Speaker 1>and he plays two hundred and fifty of his three

0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:09.320
<v Speaker 1>hundred and four total snaps on the year from Week

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:10.800
<v Speaker 1>fourteen through the playoffs.

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:12.240
<v Speaker 2>Didn't miss a snap the rest of the way.

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:14.320
<v Speaker 1>He had some of the key blocks on those critical

0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Wilson runs to beat Dallas. I think that his

0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:20.720
<v Speaker 1>that's his best trait man gap football, displacing guys with

0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:22.800
<v Speaker 1>a sheer mash three hundred and twenty five pounds. Our

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:25.360
<v Speaker 1>second biggest guard in the roster now, I don't think

0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:26.159
<v Speaker 1>he's a fit for us.

0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:27.280
<v Speaker 2>I think go somewhere.

0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:30.400
<v Speaker 1>He was a worthwhile, you know, reserve on a UDFA

0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:32.600
<v Speaker 1>rookie contract. That's cheapest, hell, the cheapest player you can

0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 1>have a football now that's expired. I don't think you

0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:37.600
<v Speaker 1>go after a bigger deal with him. Maybe they tender him,

0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:39.639
<v Speaker 1>but I doubt it. I think for him something like

0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh where he can go be a mauler for Arthur

0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 1>Smith makes a lot of sense. Number seventy seven Isaiah

0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:47.520
<v Speaker 1>win two hundred and twenty four PB snaps, four pressures,

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:49.199
<v Speaker 1>a ninety nine point one PBE.

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<v Speaker 2>He was phenomenal to the.

0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:52.880
<v Speaker 1>First seven games of the year, a total free agent hit,

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 1>but then he suffers what becomes a season ending injury.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome.

0:26:56.520 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 1>In pass Pro, nobody gained an inch on this dude,

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:01.640
<v Speaker 1>regardless of their move He could absorb power. He had

0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:04.640
<v Speaker 1>the lateral movement and strength to thwart games and rushers

0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:07.160
<v Speaker 1>trying to cross his face. I thought his run game

0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:09.359
<v Speaker 1>work was plenty good enough, and frankly, we saw the

0:27:09.400 --> 0:27:12.359
<v Speaker 1>offense struggle to replace him when he was lost. He

0:27:12.440 --> 0:27:15.160
<v Speaker 1>played the first three hundred and ninety two snaps. Then

0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:17.640
<v Speaker 1>we have three guys rotating into that position to run

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:19.639
<v Speaker 1>with the rest of the seven hundred plus snaps that

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<v Speaker 1>we would play this season.

0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:21.840
<v Speaker 2>And the only thing that I.

0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:24.719
<v Speaker 1>Think keeping him from being a cornerstone from someone that

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:28.000
<v Speaker 1>you bank on is the injury history. He's never played

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:30.120
<v Speaker 1>a full season. He missed eight games as a rookie,

0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 1>six in year two, one in twenty twenty one, eight

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:36.439
<v Speaker 1>last year, and then ten this past season. Fifty games

0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:38.680
<v Speaker 1>out of eighty three possible. He's played an average of

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:41.360
<v Speaker 1>six point six miss games per year since coming into

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 1>the league. I am so curious about this player too.

0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:46.720
<v Speaker 1>The whole line is fascinating me. But I'm curious about

0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:48.840
<v Speaker 1>his market. He can't stay healthy, right, and that's an

0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:51.160
<v Speaker 1>issue when you go into the year counting on him

0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 1>to be one of the guys and you're short a

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:54.560
<v Speaker 1>player when he goes out for the year. But that's like,

0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:57.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, one for three and a half million or

0:27:57.359 --> 0:27:58.920
<v Speaker 1>something like that. Again, that would be a no bran

0:27:59.040 --> 0:27:59.560
<v Speaker 1>to me. Do it?

0:27:59.560 --> 0:27:59.879
<v Speaker 2>Why not?

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:02.400
<v Speaker 1>It's cheap and you could possibly get a starting left

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 1>guard for even ten games at three point five million.

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 1>At top level, guard play is worth it if he wants,

0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:11.160
<v Speaker 1>like Bona fide starting left guard money, he probably can't

0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 1>do that. His market value at spot rack is right

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:14.320
<v Speaker 1>in line with where he was at this time a

0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:16.439
<v Speaker 1>year ago, and it's probably because the injury history, But

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 1>who the hell knows how accurate that can be. Frankly,

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:21.240
<v Speaker 1>I will not hate it if it's him and Liam,

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:23.480
<v Speaker 1>as long as we have a better plan at the

0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 1>left tackle position. And you brought back Rob and you

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 1>probably drafted a center high. But it's like it's doable

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:30.720
<v Speaker 1>if the other positions are a little bit more sturdy.

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 1>So on I'm trying to say seventy one key on

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Smith twenty two pass blocking snaps, zero pressures, I's say

0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 1>one hundred pbe perhaps the player I'm most intrigued by

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:41.880
<v Speaker 1>on the entire roster. I keep saying that right to be,

0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:43.920
<v Speaker 1>frank I didn't think he was long for the league.

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 1>After camp in twenty twenty two he looked awful and

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:48.440
<v Speaker 1>preseason was even worse. Now at the end of twenty

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 1>twenty three, I think he could be a future left

0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:54.160
<v Speaker 1>tackle that starts in this league. Another yet another example

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:56.680
<v Speaker 1>of not getting too rigid in your beliefs. But I

0:28:56.680 --> 0:28:59.239
<v Speaker 1>think this speaks to his dedication to the craft and

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:01.360
<v Speaker 1>the work of the code coaching staff. Think about this,

0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 1>A player who misses his senior year of high school

0:29:03.600 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 1>due to an injury, gets twenty college games in his

0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:08.480
<v Speaker 1>career and misses his senior year of college because of

0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 1>the pandemic at Fayetteville State. People throw the term raw

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 1>around a lot, like just look at his measurements. He

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:16.120
<v Speaker 1>has the burst, a length, the composition to be the

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 1>ideal tackle in this offense. And I think he showed

0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 1>you flashes of that in very brief time this year.

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 1>But the preseason tape was awesome, and then we got

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:27.400
<v Speaker 1>good again, albeit limited work, but good regular season tape

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:29.640
<v Speaker 1>this year. That makes me think he's a piece worth

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:32.000
<v Speaker 1>investing more time into. And he's near the top of

0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 1>my list of guys I cannot wait to watch at OTAs.

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:36.240
<v Speaker 1>We rounded out here with someone that did not play

0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 1>at all, Number sixty Jonathan Harrison. Didn't see him play.

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:43.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't care talk anymore about it. Futures contracts. Ryan

0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Hayes and Chase and Hines are guys that were brought

0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 1>back on those futures deals.

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:49.080
<v Speaker 2>So there's some tires in the fire, some irons in

0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 2>the fire.

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 1>How do you say that whatever on an offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>that has a lot of work to do, but feel

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good about where they are and where they could

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<v Speaker 1>go with the resources they have this offseason. Last break

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<v Speaker 1>right there, come back on the speaking of the resources,

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<v Speaker 1>two of my favorite players in the Senior Bowler offensive lineman.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about day one to Practice's next Draft Time podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>your host, Travis Wingfield, brought to you by donation.

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<v Speaker 2>That's rare. Okay, girl, let's go still watch it? Who

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<v Speaker 2>is who watching.

0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 1>To watch it? Yeah?

0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Who is watching? Watching? Day?

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<v Speaker 1>So many clarifications to make here as we get into

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<v Speaker 1>the third and final segment on this Wednesday, the last

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 1>day of January, which, when your football team is not

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:48.640
<v Speaker 1>playing this time of year, feels like the longest, most

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 1>pointless month of the year in a way, doesn't it.

0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 1>I think February probably is that way as well with

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:56.040
<v Speaker 1>regards to football fans. Like I was telling my wife,

0:30:56.440 --> 0:31:01.640
<v Speaker 1>we spend so many waking moments, chasing around kids, picking

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:03.880
<v Speaker 1>up messes, making sure my one year old son, who

0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:07.680
<v Speaker 1>seems to cry about everything, is not crying. And at

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:09.640
<v Speaker 1>least at the end of the day you had football

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:13.360
<v Speaker 1>to look forward to, right, But now you don't. I

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:15.920
<v Speaker 1>love the conference championship games and divisional round weekend and

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:16.720
<v Speaker 1>all that fun stuff.

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:18.760
<v Speaker 2>But like man, I miss Thursday night.

0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I miss the holiday season when you have Saturday games

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 1>and then Monday night football. It's just the best time

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 1>of year, and right now is kind of the worst

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:28.880
<v Speaker 1>time of year. But luckily, luckily we have some football

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<v Speaker 1>to discuss right here, and the Senior Bowl which kicked off,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why we give you the lead in song there.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's Wingfield watching? And who Wingfield's watching?

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<v Speaker 2>Today?

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<v Speaker 1>Me is by the way that song falls really flat.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize that at first, but those notes lyrically,

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<v Speaker 1>the words are fine, but the notes are god awful,

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:49.640
<v Speaker 1>which is kind of what I was going for, but

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize how bad it actually was. Luckily, the

0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:55.640
<v Speaker 1>players on the was it the national team or the

0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:59.040
<v Speaker 1>American team? Let me check that real quick national roster

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<v Speaker 1>Senior Bowl. So I'm telling you this because I did

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<v Speaker 1>not watch the entirety, or I should say I did

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<v Speaker 1>not put the entirety of my day one notes and

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<v Speaker 1>here for you guys, because this podcast got a little

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:15.720
<v Speaker 1>bit long. Offensive lines, the longest or deepest position group

0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:19.800
<v Speaker 1>on the roster and so that happens, and with linebackers, interior,

0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 1>defensive line corners and safety still to go, we can

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:25.520
<v Speaker 1>get much more notes in with those smaller position groups.

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<v Speaker 1>So today we're talking about day one of the American team.

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<v Speaker 1>Will do the rest of the Senior Bowl practice notes

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<v Speaker 1>on Friday, and then I'll go ahead and get someone

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<v Speaker 1>on the show Monday. I'm thinking Kyle Krabs haven't gotten

0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 1>a confirmation on that, but I want to get his

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<v Speaker 1>perspective because the last disclaimer here before we talk about

0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:46.720
<v Speaker 1>these prospects, everything that I talk about on the podcast

0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 1>here with regards to the draft is going to be

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 1>through a Dolphin's lens. I will continue to harp on

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:55.640
<v Speaker 1>that disclaimer. I think some shows and even myself from

0:32:55.640 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 1>the past on Lockdown Dolphins had done like here's who

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I like, but this is what the Dolphins could do.

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Everything is with the lens as if I am a

0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 1>scout for the Miami Dolphins and thinking about who fits

0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 1>what we do right. That's the beauty of one team

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 1>scouting opposed to what Kyle does. For instance, with all

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 1>thirty two scouting is you have your scouting for generalize

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:20.960
<v Speaker 1>like you would be a consultant that consults the entire league,

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 1>which is a much tougher job than to find specific notes.

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 1>And then, of course Kyle does a great job with

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:27.400
<v Speaker 1>his Dolphins notes unlocked down Dolphins, and that's what we're

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:29.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna do here. So here's my notes from the American

0:33:29.360 --> 0:33:32.160
<v Speaker 1>team practice on Wednesday. I have so many because there's

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:34.280
<v Speaker 1>so many guys on that field that I think could

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 1>step in and help the Dolphins in twenty twenty four.

0:33:38.120 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 1>And that being said, I don't view the draft that way.

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:40.960
<v Speaker 2>I never have.

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:44.240
<v Speaker 1>I've never thought that your draft purposes is to get

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 1>the best football team on the field for this upcoming season.

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 1>That's doing it wrong. The best way to draft is

0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:51.480
<v Speaker 1>taking the best player available. I saw a tweet. I

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 1>think his name is Sean Williams. You guys probably know

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:55.800
<v Speaker 1>who he is. I've never seen a tweet more right

0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:58.520
<v Speaker 1>and wrong. At the same time, he was harping on

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:01.479
<v Speaker 1>how the best team in the league take the best

0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 1>player available, regardless of their position. That's how you draft

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 1>the best, and I agree with that. That's in two years,

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 1>your needs are going to be completely different and you'll

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 1>still have that player. So draft the best players and

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:12.600
<v Speaker 1>you'll turn out right in the end. But then at

0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 1>the end of it he said, that's why Chris Grear

0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:17.440
<v Speaker 1>sucks because he only has one All Pro in his career,

0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:19.120
<v Speaker 1>and what a weird bar that is. First of all,

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 1>it's wrong because he did draft larry My Tunzel, he

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 1>did draft Minka Fitzpatrick. That's two All pros. I probably

0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:26.799
<v Speaker 1>doesn't count Tyreek Hills two All pros, which he traded

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 1>a first round pick four down here. It's misguided by

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:31.640
<v Speaker 1>people that think that Chris Greer like committed crimes against

0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:33.799
<v Speaker 1>humanity for whatever reason, even though he has built one

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 1>of the best rosters in the NFL. I digress, so

0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:39.719
<v Speaker 1>draft the best players, and Chris Greer is doing just

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:41.840
<v Speaker 1>finding his draft classes and what he does with his

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:45.359
<v Speaker 1>picks as well. So that said, I have a few

0:34:45.400 --> 0:34:48.880
<v Speaker 1>notes here for you guys. First, Talisi Fuaka from Oregon

0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:50.879
<v Speaker 1>State was my favorite player going into this game. He's

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 1>not going to be available. He's a top ten pick,

0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 1>forget about it. He's the best right tackle in the class.

0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:57.440
<v Speaker 1>He can play left tackle. He's got smooth, smooth transition.

0:34:57.520 --> 0:34:59.080
<v Speaker 1>In fact, there was a report that came up with

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 1>the Jets love this. I don't think he'll be available

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:03.000
<v Speaker 1>for that picked number ten. I think he's gonna be

0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 1>to first tackle off the board. Quite frankly, he is

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 1>an elite, elite prospect. And speaking of the Jets, there's

0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:10.280
<v Speaker 1>an article by Diana Rossini that came out on Wednesday

0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:11.640
<v Speaker 1>about how dysfunctional they are.

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:15.239
<v Speaker 2>I freaking told you, I freaking told you.

0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:18.959
<v Speaker 1>I told Did I not tell you that all all

0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:22.080
<v Speaker 1>last offseason? I don't like to say I told you, so, Yeah,

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:23.759
<v Speaker 1>I kind of do, actually, but this time I love

0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 1>saying it.

0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:25.239
<v Speaker 2>So there you go.

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Tellisi Fuaga dominant dominant player to Liatu Lata.

0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 2>I think I got that right. I should probably look

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:32.879
<v Speaker 2>that up.

0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:36.360
<v Speaker 1>The UCLA kid who basically ruined WSU season by having

0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:38.279
<v Speaker 1>twenty four pressures like I don't know what it was,

0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 1>but it was a lot of pressures. He reminds me

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 1>of Jeln Phillips, but with a little more technician, a

0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:45.719
<v Speaker 1>little less pop and physicality. But man, he's right on

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:47.640
<v Speaker 1>that track. I think he's long gone before our pick.

0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:51.279
<v Speaker 1>He's the best pass rusher out there. I had two

0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:53.720
<v Speaker 1>notes or a note here about a player I didn't

0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 1>like because I saw a bunch of pop on him.

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Brendan Rice from usc does he is he strapped to

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:00.920
<v Speaker 1>a backboard, the stiffest player I've ever seen in my

0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:04.280
<v Speaker 1>entire life, like Pops did not rap off on Homie. Okay,

0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:06.240
<v Speaker 1>the rest of my notes, I put more extensive notes

0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:08.279
<v Speaker 1>in my notepad on my phone to go ahead and

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:09.880
<v Speaker 1>pull that up. So here's here's the guys that I

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:13.719
<v Speaker 1>had noted four or against for the Dolphins. So Oklahoma

0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 1>offensive tackle Tyler Geydon. I think he'll be gone before

0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:19.440
<v Speaker 1>pick twenty one because he's six foot seven, three hundred

0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:21.439
<v Speaker 1>and thirty pounds and he has those laram me tons

0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:23.919
<v Speaker 1>will typewriter feet. Not that good a feat, but he's

0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:28.240
<v Speaker 1>pretty smooth man, easy change of direction, can doesn't lose

0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:30.480
<v Speaker 1>his cleats in the ground. He throws that punch so

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:33.000
<v Speaker 1>he can really get off of his spot quickly and

0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:35.239
<v Speaker 1>redirect and has a very powerful punch.

0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:36.880
<v Speaker 2>When he times that thing right, it's so deadly.

0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I think he's a top twenty pick and he's gonna

0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:41.520
<v Speaker 1>be one of eight or nine offensive tackles taken in

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:43.600
<v Speaker 1>the first round of this year's draft class. It is

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 1>loaded on the offensive line guys, and Tyler Goidon looks

0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:48.640
<v Speaker 1>like one of the best ones in the entire group.

0:36:48.880 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of guys that are best in the entire group,

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:51.880
<v Speaker 1>I think this is my favorite.

0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:52.640
<v Speaker 2>Actually check that.

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I know for a fact this is my favorite player

0:36:55.560 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 1>so far, and you guys know who it is. Jackson Powers,

0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Johnson Man JPJ. Holy crap. If he doesn't remind me

0:37:03.160 --> 0:37:06.279
<v Speaker 1>of Christian Wilkins, then damn it. Like I bet if

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:09.160
<v Speaker 1>you miked him up, you'd hear him screaming football for

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:14.240
<v Speaker 1>an entire practice. During the two pag two bag punch

0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:17.280
<v Speaker 1>drill where you punch right, punch left, punch right, punch left,

0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:20.480
<v Speaker 1>I saw him do the drill and then run back

0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:22.839
<v Speaker 1>in line to try to get on the bag. That's

0:37:22.880 --> 0:37:25.360
<v Speaker 1>not how the flow of that drill works. You're going upstream,

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 1>my friend. It goes hold the bag, do the drill,

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:29.919
<v Speaker 1>go to the end of the line. But this guy

0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:32.719
<v Speaker 1>wants to be doing things at all time on the

0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:34.920
<v Speaker 1>football field. He was that way the entire day. He

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:37.840
<v Speaker 1>wants to play. He bounced around from every period to

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:41.080
<v Speaker 1>every period. Everything was hustle to him. His retrace, get

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:42.840
<v Speaker 1>back to the line, scrimmage, just want to one. Everything

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 1>was just on ten at all times and aside from

0:37:45.520 --> 0:37:49.319
<v Speaker 1>that the football player like he's the best player out there.

0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:52.800
<v Speaker 1>Everything is second nature to him. I saw Daniel Jeremiah

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:54.440
<v Speaker 1>say it's hard to find holes in his game. In

0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:56.960
<v Speaker 1>his top fifty, he just produced what you go read

0:37:56.960 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 1>that if you haven't done that so far or yet

0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:02.560
<v Speaker 1>so repet center where he didn't anchor super early and

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:05.160
<v Speaker 1>it allowed him to keep the feet active to reposition

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:06.879
<v Speaker 1>until he could find an acre points.

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:10.640
<v Speaker 2>So like there's no panic in his game. It's all calm.

0:38:10.760 --> 0:38:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Then he played a repiic.

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:13.760
<v Speaker 1>Guard where he saw a move that the three technique

0:38:13.840 --> 0:38:16.359
<v Speaker 1>rushed his outside shoulder and that was the only place

0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:18.440
<v Speaker 1>he could get too. So he opens his hips and

0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:20.800
<v Speaker 1>does this drop step once again, calmly getting to the

0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:23.240
<v Speaker 1>spot before throwing the hands or getting out over his skis,

0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:25.400
<v Speaker 1>and he gets into this depth to cut him off

0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:27.520
<v Speaker 1>at the pass, and if he redirects the pass rusher,

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:29.120
<v Speaker 1>he can just flip the other hip and do a

0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:32.880
<v Speaker 1>drop step in the other direction. He is a perfect prospect.

0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:35.960
<v Speaker 1>And the reason I love him so much is because

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:37.400
<v Speaker 1>you get.

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:38.680
<v Speaker 2>I talked about on the Monday podcast.

0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 1>I think you get Connor Williams athletic ability, but you

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:45.160
<v Speaker 1>get I think even more toughness.

0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:45.879
<v Speaker 2>I think you get.

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:48.920
<v Speaker 1>You definitely get thirty more or twenty five more pounds,

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:50.759
<v Speaker 1>which gives you so much more power. There was a

0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:52.800
<v Speaker 1>pass a Bowl rush move on the interior. It was

0:38:52.840 --> 0:38:55.040
<v Speaker 1>only a two ninety five pound Clemson defensive line if

0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:58.080
<v Speaker 1>forget his name, but he just completely thwart the power.

0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:00.279
<v Speaker 1>So you can thwart power and goal line, you can

0:39:00.280 --> 0:39:03.040
<v Speaker 1>displace a one shade and short yardage. You can lead

0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:05.279
<v Speaker 1>a chan out wide and end around. This guy is

0:39:05.320 --> 0:39:07.120
<v Speaker 1>the perfect player for the Miami Dolphins.

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:08.120
<v Speaker 2>Okay, we understand that.

0:39:08.760 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Let's see another thing I've noticed about these Senior Bowls

0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:13.880
<v Speaker 1>or I've been doing this since twenty sixteen was my

0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:16.120
<v Speaker 1>first year, like scouting these and doing reporting them every

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:19.359
<v Speaker 1>single podcast. Every year, there's at least one receiver who

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:22.399
<v Speaker 1>comes in and is immediately productive but also has a long,

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:25.359
<v Speaker 1>very good career in the NFL. And again Dane Jeremiah said,

0:39:25.360 --> 0:39:27.799
<v Speaker 1>the common threat across all those great receivers to come

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:30.919
<v Speaker 1>out of the Senior Bowl is their toughness. And last

0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:33.799
<v Speaker 1>last year Puka Nakua. Two years ago, probably the down

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:37.280
<v Speaker 1>year was Romeo Dobbs, Khalil Shakur and Jehan Dotson, Like, that's.

0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:39.600
<v Speaker 2>Three good receivers two years ago or three years before.

0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:42.880
<v Speaker 1>A year before that Geez Davante Smith and Nico Collins

0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:45.480
<v Speaker 1>to the best receivers in the NFL. Before that, Brandon

0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Ayyuk the niners number one receiver, and Michael Pittman for

0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:50.480
<v Speaker 1>the Colts. The year before that Terry McLaurin and Deebo

0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:52.799
<v Speaker 1>Samuel blew the doors off the Senior Bowl, and then

0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:55.160
<v Speaker 1>DJ Shark and Michael Gallup. And the year before that

0:39:55.239 --> 0:39:59.240
<v Speaker 1>was Cooper Cup. And I mentioned Cooper Cup because Roman

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson kind of reminds me of his pass catching and

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<v Speaker 1>toughness ability, Like he is a Jarvis Landry clone in

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<v Speaker 1>the sense that he's gonna go stick his face in

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<v Speaker 1>the fan. Let's go Oj McDuffie a better player, Oji McDuffie.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna put his face in the fan in the

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<v Speaker 1>hook zone, make a tough catch and get blown up

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<v Speaker 1>and hang on for a first down. But wait, and

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<v Speaker 1>Juice always loves talking about his lack of foot speed.

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<v Speaker 1>Roman Wilson's gonna clock a four to three eight, like

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<v Speaker 1>that's what he ran at Michigan. He's a plus twenty

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<v Speaker 1>mile prior runner and the way he understands his leverage

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<v Speaker 1>and leans into guys and breaks off those routes. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's gonna be that next guy from the Senior

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl that becomes an instant star and instant hit. And

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Naggey compared him to Tyler Lockett. That's a great

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<v Speaker 1>comp I think, And I kind of think the way

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<v Speaker 1>he runs his routes is sort of is sort of

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<v Speaker 1>Gaylan Waddle and Tyreek Hill. There's a nuance and detail

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<v Speaker 1>into those routes on top of electric electric fying speed.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know I talked about size and the ability

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<v Speaker 1>to go win tough balls inside. That's a big key

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<v Speaker 1>for me this offseason, but I don't care if you

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<v Speaker 1>can do it with quickness and with just pure route running,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what Roman Wilson from Michigan can do. He's

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<v Speaker 1>only five to eleven, one ninety, but we had so

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<v Speaker 1>many instances this year. We had one on one matchups

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<v Speaker 1>inside to convert third downs when Wabble or Hill was

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<v Speaker 1>not on the field, are not available, and we just

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<v Speaker 1>never ever could do it. This guy would be your answer,

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<v Speaker 1>probably gonna cost you a second round pick, but I

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<v Speaker 1>would be thrilled to go. Jackson Powers, Johnson Roman Wilson

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<v Speaker 1>offense is done. Not quite Dune, but it's almost done

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<v Speaker 1>to me, if you can make those two things happen.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's my notes on the day one of the

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<v Speaker 1>American team practice. Friday's gonna be a lot of Senior

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl notes. Will also break down the I Believe and

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<v Speaker 1>Shoer your defensive line position. All that coming up on Friday.

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