Speaker 1: You're listening to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast,
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Speaker 1: of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. The thoughts and opinions
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Speaker 1: subject matter and your needs. Hi. I'm Sandra Champlain. For
Speaker 1: almost twenty five years, I've been on a journey to
Speaker 1: prove the existence of life after death. On each episode
Speaker 1: will discuss the reasons we now know that our loved
Speaker 1: ones have survived physical death and so will we Welcome
Speaker 1: to Shades of the Afterlife. There has been a lot
Speaker 1: coming up in my radar screen about spirit guides. You know,
Speaker 1: these beings that unconditionally love us, that were with us
Speaker 1: before we were born, that walk by our side and
Speaker 1: love us more than any human being possibly could. Yeah,
Speaker 1: those people spirit guides. I don't think of them much,
Speaker 1: and honestly, I don't always take my own advice, can
Speaker 1: you believe it? While I'm human too, however, I do
Speaker 1: believe in them. But I personally have never taken time
Speaker 1: to form a relationship with whoever that person or those
Speaker 1: people are that walk with me. But a lot has
Speaker 1: come into my radar screen, so to speak, this past week,
Speaker 1: past couple of weeks, actually about spirit guides. So I
Speaker 1: thought we do a little bit of investigation. Who they are,
Speaker 1: what they're about, what they do for us, and how
Speaker 1: can get into communication with them. Let me start with
Speaker 1: the most recent thing that happened was this past Saturday,
Speaker 1: I had lunch with my dear friend ROBERTA. Grimes. Now
Speaker 1: you may know her. She is the author of the
Speaker 1: Fun of Dying. I've interviewed her on this show. She's
Speaker 1: a business attorney in a long time afterlife explorer. She's
Speaker 1: got many many books out and she's got the website
Speaker 1: seek reality dot com. She's also got the seek Reality
Speaker 1: podcast with hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of great episodes.
Speaker 1: When we met for lunch, she was talking to me
Speaker 1: about her books and how it doesn't feel like she
Speaker 1: wrote them. It feels like she channeled them. Now, this
Speaker 1: isn't the first time I've heard that expression, that people
Speaker 1: feel so much on autopilot that the words flow out
Speaker 1: of them as if someone else had written them. So
Speaker 1: when I talked to her a little bit more about it,
Speaker 1: she spoke about her guide. His name is Thomas, And
Speaker 1: I said, quite honestly, well, I don't really know who
Speaker 1: my guides are. And she seemed a little surprised. You
Speaker 1: know me who's been involved in afterlife research for so long. Well,
Speaker 1: she said, she's developed such a relationship with her main guide,
Speaker 1: this is Thomas, that over the years she's come to
Speaker 1: learn what is him and what is her voice speaking.
Speaker 1: We all have a soul, We are all very powerful.
Speaker 1: We can all come up with some really great things
Speaker 1: and some great ideas. And is it our soul or
Speaker 1: is it one of these spirit guides? She said with
Speaker 1: her the voice first started coming out as her own voice,
Speaker 1: but it was these grand ideas and things that she
Speaker 1: normally wouldn't have thought of. And as time went on
Speaker 1: and through lots of conversation. In her conversation, this guide
Speaker 1: presented himself started speaking with a more male voice as Thomas.
Speaker 1: She says the way she distinguishes now, what is her
Speaker 1: internal voice and what is her Thomas is? She says,
Speaker 1: it's just over her left shoulder and back when he
Speaker 1: speaks to her. That's the area it seems to come from,
Speaker 1: this voice, and everything else that happens is within her
Speaker 1: own head. But she says he draws attention to things.
Speaker 1: He tells her what projects she needs to work on next.
Speaker 1: When she's writing a book, he's right there putting in
Speaker 1: his thoughts and his words, And she says sometimes she
Speaker 1: even has to look up the words in a dictionary
Speaker 1: to make sure they are words, and a lot of
Speaker 1: them are old words that haven't been used in a
Speaker 1: long time. Roberta is a smart cookie. She is very intelligent.
Speaker 1: She's very skeptical, and so to hear the story from her,
Speaker 1: there's credibility to it. Now. Also on my rate our screen,
Speaker 1: here is our friend Scott Milligan who every Friday does
Speaker 1: a demonstration of trance mediumship, and through him speaks a voice,
Speaker 1: a person by the name of Eric. Completely different personality,
Speaker 1: voice and everything is Scott. And I've known Scott for
Speaker 1: now about six years, and he is a completely different
Speaker 1: person than this Eric. And when Eric speaks. He speaks
Speaker 1: in an old English voice, uses words that we don't
Speaker 1: hear too much these days, and you can ask him
Speaker 1: a question about anything. He never misses a beat, never
Speaker 1: does an um or let me think about it, or
Speaker 1: that hesitation that we do as humans. He is smooth talking.
Speaker 1: He can answer any question about life, death, in the
Speaker 1: afterlife again without missing a beat. So we host online classes,
Speaker 1: as you know, and one of them, Scott was talking
Speaker 1: about meeting our spirit guides. So for me it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: here's spirit guides coming up again. And on a meditation
Speaker 1: that he did or leading us in this sitting and
Speaker 1: quieting of the mind, he had us imagine the love
Speaker 1: from our parents or whoever is no longer walking on
Speaker 1: this earth with us, someone who is deceased, and had
Speaker 1: us really envision and feel a memory of being close
Speaker 1: to them. And it is his belief, as with many others,
Speaker 1: that the way to connect with our loved ones is
Speaker 1: through the language of emotion. So closing your eyes and
Speaker 1: having a memory and really feeling the love that kind
Speaker 1: of is the gateway to open up that conversation with them.
Speaker 1: And what they do is you know some of them, yes,
Speaker 1: can learn how to flicker light switches on and off,
Speaker 1: and put messages on cell phones and things like that.
Speaker 1: But for most they retain their personality by someone who
Speaker 1: is soft spoken and quiet and let's everybody speak. Before
Speaker 1: her would have been my grandmother, So it's no wonder
Speaker 1: that in all these years since she's passed about fourteen now,
Speaker 1: that she's only come through a couple of times, that
Speaker 1: was her personality. And then he get my dad, who
Speaker 1: was well, I don't want to say he was entertaining.
Speaker 1: He wasn't, but he was very vocal with his beliefs.
Speaker 1: I'll put it to you that way. Great guy. Everybody
Speaker 1: loved him, very very positive. So it's no wonder he's
Speaker 1: like the first on the scene. And of course I
Speaker 1: love them both very much, different personalities. So in this
Speaker 1: meditation we were doing with Scott, I imagined some time
Speaker 1: I spent with my dad, And what came first to
Speaker 1: mind is when I spent so many days holding his
Speaker 1: hand in the hospital room before he passed. We had
Speaker 1: such a great connection. I would bring in my computer
Speaker 1: and two headsets and we would watch movies and tell
Speaker 1: stories and do whatever was possible to pay attention to
Speaker 1: something positive instead of him concentrating on the pain that
Speaker 1: he was feeling. I remembered those times with my dad
Speaker 1: and just that pure love that I felt for him,
Speaker 1: and it was almost like this whish that came through,
Speaker 1: and all kinds of other memories just get implanted in
Speaker 1: my mind, almost like a slide show. Now, my brain
Speaker 1: can't come up with things that fast, so it is
Speaker 1: trusting that this is my dad coming through. I could
Speaker 1: feel a hug, I could feel his presence, I could
Speaker 1: feel what it was like to hold his hand. These
Speaker 1: are all very subtle things. And yes, it's easy to
Speaker 1: think this is our imagination, but like any muscle that
Speaker 1: we want to develop, we have to strengthen it. So
Speaker 1: the more times we do that, the more our loved
Speaker 1: one is like, hey, they're really trying to get through
Speaker 1: to me. Let me try from my end too. Well.
Speaker 1: During this men aitation, Scott had asked our loved one
Speaker 1: to introduce us to our spirit guide. Now, I wish
Speaker 1: I could tell you that all of a sudden VOI la,
Speaker 1: this most wonderful spirit guide was there with me. But
Speaker 1: it didn't happen that way. My rational brain kicked in
Speaker 1: and said, hey, wait a minute, wait a minute. The
Speaker 1: way we human beings work is when we want an
Speaker 1: answer to something, something will show up in our mind,
Speaker 1: whether we put it there or the other world puts
Speaker 1: it there. So let me ask you a question. Right now.
Speaker 1: Think of a color and boom you probably thought of one.
Speaker 1: I just thought of purple. Think of a number, Boom,
Speaker 1: there you got one, right, Well, my mind just came
Speaker 1: up with four. Think of someone you love that's no
Speaker 1: longer walking this earth. Boom, there they are, right, And
Speaker 1: my mind saw my grandmother. Does it mean that my
Speaker 1: grandmother is not there? No, But something like this, when
Speaker 1: we're trying to picture something on demand, I really think
Speaker 1: our imagination can kick in. So if I were to say,
Speaker 1: imagine your spirit guide right now, you know you may
Speaker 1: have somebody from history. Abraham Lincoln just popped into my mind,
Speaker 1: the president of the United States. Doesn't mean he's not
Speaker 1: there cheering me on. Well, who knows, you know. But
Speaker 1: I don't think this is the right way to access
Speaker 1: our spirit guides. Not saying that Scott's method doesn't work.
Speaker 1: I do think the more times I relax and allow
Speaker 1: my mind to just be present and feel the love
Speaker 1: and feel that intention say, the more times the same
Speaker 1: person starts coming in. The more times it might be, Hey,
Speaker 1: you might be here guiding me. There may be many
Speaker 1: people guiding us as well. It said that we all
Speaker 1: have a main spirit person that has walked this earth,
Speaker 1: who is there before we are born. We discuss how
Speaker 1: we're going to play this game called life, and they're
Speaker 1: the first to greet us when we return home. And
Speaker 1: it's also said that depending on what we have going
Speaker 1: on in our life, spirit guides come and go. So
Speaker 1: if you start a new project and you suddenly decide
Speaker 1: you want to paint something, and you buy yourself a
Speaker 1: canvas and some oil paints, and you maybe have a
Speaker 1: course online that you're following, now, there's a good chance
Speaker 1: that a spirit guide who's got some skill in art
Speaker 1: might step in. Have you ever felt like you were
Speaker 1: in the zone so present to something that time goes
Speaker 1: by and you don't even realize it. Well, I think
Speaker 1: those are some of the times that our guides come
Speaker 1: in and that our soul is on fire in a
Speaker 1: good way. So I really want to use our time
Speaker 1: together today investigating our spirit guides and by the end
Speaker 1: of the episode have a practice that we can all
Speaker 1: do to build this relationship. Now, the truth is, we
Speaker 1: may never know who they are, we may never have
Speaker 1: a name, we may never know if they're male or
Speaker 1: their female. But what we will all know is that
Speaker 1: right by your side, standing there with a big old smile,
Speaker 1: is someone who loves you so unconditionally, more than any
Speaker 1: human being ever has, someone who has walked every step
Speaker 1: with you, someone who has taken every breath with you,
Speaker 1: someone who has given their soul's existence to make your
Speaker 1: life better. So again, by the end, we're going to
Speaker 1: be open to this and also start a conversation with them,
Speaker 1: an ongoing one. So we're going to go into our
Speaker 1: very first break, and when we come back, I'm want
Speaker 1: to tell you some of the things I know and
Speaker 1: some of the really wonderful experiences I've had. You're listening
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Speaker 1: I'm Sander Champlain, and we are talking about spirit guides.
Speaker 1: When I spoke earlier about Scott Milligan having this Eric
Speaker 1: who speaks through him. He's also got a Native American
Speaker 1: called morning Star, a young fellow named Daniel, and so
Speaker 1: many more. There are what's called guides. There are also
Speaker 1: friends and helpers. I do believe, there's angels, and there
Speaker 1: are our loved ones. Now I'm just thinking about angels.
Speaker 1: The first thoughts I have of these spirit helpers, and
Speaker 1: maybe you experience this too, are these parking lot angels,
Speaker 1: some being that would help you find a parking space.
Speaker 1: If you get to a busy mall or shopping center,
Speaker 1: you just ask your angel help me find a spot,
Speaker 1: and voila, there is a spot. Now. I have done
Speaker 1: this from time to time. Haven't always found a spot,
Speaker 1: but I never really gave it too much credibility. A
Speaker 1: lot of people completely believe in this. It's very possible
Speaker 1: that there are these angels helping us out, but they
Speaker 1: also may be known as our spirit guides. Now, when
Speaker 1: somebody works through Scott through trance mediumship, he says that
Speaker 1: they are his friends, not so much their guides. These
Speaker 1: are people that work with him to help spread inspiration
Speaker 1: to the masses, and that they do. They really do.
Speaker 1: They bring so much comfort and hope and really great conversations.
Speaker 1: The guides can remain more quiet in the background, but
Speaker 1: they're always there. I think just knowing that we have
Speaker 1: this team of invisible beings, these people, is amazing to me.
Speaker 1: So it's not just our guides, it is these friends
Speaker 1: that can help us with different things in life, perhaps
Speaker 1: angelic beings who have never come here before, and then
Speaker 1: as a real bonus, our loved ones. Now. Our loved
Speaker 1: ones are busy, they have their lives to live. They're
Speaker 1: still learning and growing on the other side, but they
Speaker 1: are absolutely only a thought away. In fact, they could
Speaker 1: be busy doing one thing and then pop over and
Speaker 1: be with you. It's amazing some of the evidence that
Speaker 1: I hear in the demonstrations of mediumship, just how close
Speaker 1: they are and what they witness. One of the first
Speaker 1: times that I saw these friends in action and learned
Speaker 1: about trans mediumship is when I took a trip to
Speaker 1: the Arthur Finlay College in the UK with my friend Darla.
Speaker 1: And Darla I had met back on a workshop years
Speaker 1: and years ago. I love her dearly. She's always interested
Speaker 1: in trying new things, and she always has a foot
Speaker 1: into mediumship and all kinds of artistic things. She's really
Speaker 1: great exploring her passions. But we decided to go to
Speaker 1: the Arthur Finlay College and it has been Oh the
Speaker 1: building itself has been in existence for hundreds and hundreds
Speaker 1: of years, but it is the foremost place to go
Speaker 1: when one is considering psychic studies. There are different tutors
Speaker 1: there that come around each week there's someone new. They're
Speaker 1: good hearted people, all based in the truth that we
Speaker 1: are spiritual beings having a human experience, that our loved
Speaker 1: ones go on, and that there's a way to get
Speaker 1: in touch with them. The Great Gordon Higginson is one
Speaker 1: of the people that are responsible for having the Arthur
Speaker 1: Finlay College be here present day. Old Arthur Finley. Back
Speaker 1: in the day he and Gertrude Finley witnessed some amazing
Speaker 1: mediumship and they gave their home, which is a massive
Speaker 1: mansion a state. I mean, it's huge. They gave this
Speaker 1: so that people could continue studying and learning about the afterlife.
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful old place and if you think of
Speaker 1: the movie Harry Potter, one of those kind of places
Speaker 1: is what I think of when I think of the
Speaker 1: Arthur Finley College. When we went to the college, we
Speaker 1: went for a week. We pre arranged to take this
Speaker 1: general mediumship course, and when we got there, they divied
Speaker 1: us up between how much a mediumship experience we had,
Speaker 1: and although I had taken a few small courses in
Speaker 1: the past, I really felt like I was a beginner.
Speaker 1: You know, I still feel like I'm a beginner. Even
Speaker 1: though I've taken lots of classes, there's always more to explore.
Speaker 1: Darla was in a different class because she had more
Speaker 1: experience than I did, and we would learn how our
Speaker 1: psychic faculty works and what mediumship is, and it's using
Speaker 1: our psychic faculty, and instead of working with human to human,
Speaker 1: it's working human to someone who's no longer walking this earth.
Speaker 1: So it was pretty extraordinary. I was so passionate about
Speaker 1: what I learned. That's one of the reasons why we
Speaker 1: do the online mediumship classes with the great tutors Carrie
Speaker 1: McLeod and Philip Dike's they've both stemmed from Gordon Higginson's
Speaker 1: mediumship and they can both teach on this way, you know,
Speaker 1: which really does tap into I think the best evidence
Speaker 1: that our loved ones are around. So during this class,
Speaker 1: they also offered an extra class we could do and
Speaker 1: there were choices from trance mediumship to recordings like electronic
Speaker 1: voice phenomena and things like that. The night before I
Speaker 1: had witnessed Eileen Davies, who is another great trans medium
Speaker 1: do trans mediumship, and I tell you what, I couldn't
Speaker 1: even believe what I experienced. This woman sat in the sanctuary.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the inside of a church on
Speaker 1: the altar, so to speak, and she had two ladies
Speaker 1: by her side. She closed her eyes. There were a
Speaker 1: couple of songs played, and then yes, the voice of
Speaker 1: someone else spoke through her. It was an Asian gentleman
Speaker 1: with beautiful inspiration. The second voice that came through was
Speaker 1: a friend, more like a voice that Eileen spoke with,
Speaker 1: and she has a British accent. The third voice that
Speaker 1: came through was someone called Ula, someone who had been
Speaker 1: a slave in the Deep South, who had a really
Speaker 1: strong Southern American accent from those days, filled with personality.
Speaker 1: She was talking to the audience. Even though Eileen's eyes
Speaker 1: were closed, she could still see the people in front
Speaker 1: of her and talk to them, and it was amazing.
Speaker 1: So when I could choose an extra class, what I
Speaker 1: really wanted to shoose was this trans mediumship. However, because
Speaker 1: I had no experience and I was a beginner, they
Speaker 1: put me in the class with the electronic voice phenomena
Speaker 1: in using our phones to capture lights and things like that.
Speaker 1: It was interesting, but I have to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: my heart was broken because I really wanted to explore
Speaker 1: what this trans medium ship was all about. When I
Speaker 1: returned home, though, Darla had told me about a medium
Speaker 1: by the name of Tony Stockwell, and I had not
Speaker 1: heard of him at that time. So I checked out
Speaker 1: on YouTube and there are tons and tons and tons
Speaker 1: of demonstrations that he had done publicly when he was younger.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was right on giving information about loved
Speaker 1: ones who were deceased. Now picture this deep in my soul.
Speaker 1: I want to learn more about trans mediumship, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I am finding out about this amazing
Speaker 1: medium called Tony Stockwell. There's a place in Rhinebeck, New
Speaker 1: York called the Omega Center where I had my first
Speaker 1: experiences capturing electronic voice phenomena, and I felt like I
Speaker 1: wanted to go back. So there was just that little
Speaker 1: tug on my soul. Now, was it my spirit guide?
Speaker 1: Was it my soul speaking to me? I don't know.
Speaker 1: But I had one weekend free. I went to the
Speaker 1: Omega website to see who was teaching that weekend and
Speaker 1: guess what I saw? Tony Stockwell teaching a class in
Speaker 1: trance mediumship. Now I can't make this stuff up. These
Speaker 1: are the times that I feel like I'm divinely guided.
Speaker 1: And it's not just me, it's you too. Have you
Speaker 1: had times in your life that you get this pull
Speaker 1: or you've got this synchronicity that happens, and you just
Speaker 1: have this feeling like I was meant to be here. Well,
Speaker 1: I felt like I was meant to go to that
Speaker 1: Tony Stockwell weekend, and sure enough I did. It was
Speaker 1: the place where everybody was accepted, no matter what experience
Speaker 1: you had or you didn't have. And Tony talked about
Speaker 1: us all having these beings that are around us that
Speaker 1: work with us. Guides is what he called them, and
Speaker 1: he said they can work through us, they can provide
Speaker 1: inspiration to ourselves and to others. And how important it
Speaker 1: is to build up a relationship with them. I mean,
Speaker 1: could you imagine standing by someone's side for an entire lifetime,
Speaker 1: in them not even talking to you, and you continually
Speaker 1: giving them love and support. And what would it be
Speaker 1: like to have that person all of a sudden say hey,
Speaker 1: I know you're around, I can't quite see you, I
Speaker 1: don't know your name, but thank you. And to build
Speaker 1: that relationship, I think more and more and more things
Speaker 1: would come. So in the class with Tony Stockwell, we
Speaker 1: had different experiences of closing our eyes and letting Tony
Speaker 1: guide us into that place of being totally still, and
Speaker 1: then with a loving thought, whoever it is that's working
Speaker 1: with us, if they would like to step into our presence. Now,
Speaker 1: they don't take us over, they don't. It is just
Speaker 1: a blending of energies. So I'm always quite aware that
Speaker 1: I'm still Sandra. But the goose bumps would start, you know,
Speaker 1: like Patrick Swayze stepping into Whoopi Goldberg in the movie Ghost.
Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't convinced that this wasn't my imagination.
Speaker 1: There was a great exercise that we got to do.
Speaker 1: So I was with these two ladies that I didn't know,
Speaker 1: and Tony said, we want each one of you to
Speaker 1: have practice being the medium and letting someone speak through you.
Speaker 1: Now I had never done this before, and the two
Speaker 1: ladies had, so I was a little intimidated. But I
Speaker 1: am of the thought that I would rather get something
Speaker 1: done first than sit there in fear. I closed my eyes.
Speaker 1: Tony led us to this very quiet place. He also said,
Speaker 1: you can get the ball rolling by saying spirit wants
Speaker 1: to tell you, and then whatever comes out of your mouth.
Speaker 1: So it takes some time, so it's not as easy
Speaker 1: as just closing your eyes and these great words of
Speaker 1: wisdom come out. In fact, there are some people that
Speaker 1: are fraudulent channel ers trans mediums out there that will
Speaker 1: simply close their eyes and all of a sudden speak
Speaker 1: as if there's someone else be weary of that. It
Speaker 1: takes a good ten minutes or so of really having
Speaker 1: that person quiet their mind before this happens. And with that,
Speaker 1: with my eyes closed, I literally felt the presence of
Speaker 1: a woman who was wearing like a whalebone corset. Felt
Speaker 1: like I was wearing these old shoes from like the
Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds. I had a bun in my hair, and
Speaker 1: I was older. I felt like I had a gray
Speaker 1: dress on and it was very interesting. But again I
Speaker 1: didn't know if this was my imagination. So I just
Speaker 1: start out speaking. I said, ere it wants to say,
Speaker 1: And I have to tell you, it was like this
Speaker 1: whoosh that came through me. All these words started coming
Speaker 1: out of my mouth, very very powerful, and I kind
Speaker 1: of shocked myself. So I stopped and I opened my
Speaker 1: eyes and I'm like, okay, what do you guys? Goes next?
Speaker 1: Something came over me in a beautiful way, filled with power,
Speaker 1: filled with almost like women's rights. That's what I would
Speaker 1: have to say. That woman felt like she was in
Speaker 1: those times. Anyways, incredible experience. So I want to tell
Speaker 1: you what happened next, but of course we have a break.
Speaker 1: You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the I
Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
Speaker 1: Keep it here on the I Heart Radio and Coast
Speaker 1: to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Sander Champlain will be
Speaker 1: right back. Hey, it's the Wizard of Weird Joshua Pee Warren.
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Speaker 1: of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlaine. Welcome back to Shades
Speaker 1: of the Afterlife. I'm Sander Champlain and we are talking
Speaker 1: about spirit guides. Where I last left this conversation was
Speaker 1: after my very first experience with trans mediumship, sitting with
Speaker 1: two ladies I didn't know, closing my eyes for a
Speaker 1: good solid ten minutes or so, and out of my
Speaker 1: own mouth came some very profound words, words that were
Speaker 1: empowering to these women, about what it was to be
Speaker 1: a woman, about how to stand up for themselves and
Speaker 1: things like that. Now I couldn't pay attention to the words,
Speaker 1: because if I did, the words would stop. But I
Speaker 1: certainly felt the presence of this woman, as if I
Speaker 1: was wearing the gray dress and the whalebone corset and
Speaker 1: these old timer shoes. When I opened my eyes, these
Speaker 1: women were very emotional. It was like just the words
Speaker 1: they needed to hear. And for me, it was an
Speaker 1: amazing experience. Just knowing that there's people or a person
Speaker 1: this close nearby that is so empowering. Now I want
Speaker 1: to warn you against something, because in my discoveries, there's
Speaker 1: some really great people, but there's also some crazies. I
Speaker 1: was at a conference and this gentleman really wanted to
Speaker 1: give me a reading, so to speak. And I didn't
Speaker 1: know quite who he was. I thought he was some
Speaker 1: kind of a trance medium. He sat on the couch
Speaker 1: next to me, he threw his head back. All of
Speaker 1: a sudden, he straightened up. He started staring into my
Speaker 1: eyes and making all these kind of weird gestures with
Speaker 1: his face. And his significant other was saying that he
Speaker 1: was channeling the Virgin Mary. And you know what, I
Speaker 1: just didn't quite buy it. I was freaked out. I
Speaker 1: was uncomfortable. But what did I decide to do, because
Speaker 1: you know we all have that inner BS detector. Instead
Speaker 1: of backing down, what I did as I straightened up
Speaker 1: and I went right face to face with him and
Speaker 1: looked right into his eyes. The next thing, you know,
Speaker 1: his eyes closed. He threw his head back on the couch.
Speaker 1: He opened his eyes again and said, oh, I'm back.
Speaker 1: You know what, for me, that wasn't proof of anything.
Speaker 1: When people come through Guide's Friends, whatever you want to
Speaker 1: call them, there needs to be an intelligence. It cannot
Speaker 1: insult you by any means. There needs to be words
Speaker 1: that touch your soul as if sent by God and
Speaker 1: so to speak, or the truth. There should never be
Speaker 1: words that hurt you, make you feel uncomfortable, make you
Speaker 1: feel upset. Really, you are a very powerful soul. Let
Speaker 1: things resonate within you. There are people out there on
Speaker 1: the internet charging some big sums of money to do
Speaker 1: demonstrations even private readings this way, and because it's different
Speaker 1: and unique, it's very easy for people to think it's real.
Speaker 1: But again, let it bounce off your inner BS detector.
Speaker 1: If it resonates like the truth and it makes you happy,
Speaker 1: go for it. So as my journey continued, you know,
Speaker 1: somewhere in this time, I took a trip to Bannion
Speaker 1: Retreat in the UK and that's where I met our
Speaker 1: friend Scott Milligan and first got to see him demonstrate
Speaker 1: his trance mediumship with the different friends that speak through him.
Speaker 1: I was left with such an urge to find out
Speaker 1: more about this, so I took a course back in
Speaker 1: the UK at the Arthur Finley College. Took my friend
Speaker 1: Darla with me and she took another course, and every
Speaker 1: night I would just report in on what I learned.
Speaker 1: I did the experiments between different people in the class
Speaker 1: and myself, and what I witnessed was really profound about
Speaker 1: other people having these powerful voices coming through them. I
Speaker 1: have a lot of fear within me, and as human beings,
Speaker 1: we don't want to feel stupid or look silly or
Speaker 1: anything like that. So I think I was a little
Speaker 1: too on edge, a little too high strung to totally
Speaker 1: relax into it. But there were definitely sometimes working one
Speaker 1: on one with someone that I felt a presence of
Speaker 1: someone come through me and speak. Now, what the instructor
Speaker 1: said is that we are souls having a human experience.
Speaker 1: Of course, our souls are divine and they're very intelligent.
Speaker 1: And what she said is, when you speak, you may
Speaker 1: think it's someone else, but it may be your own soul.
Speaker 1: So this was the first time I started thinking, oh,
Speaker 1: I've got an intelligent soul. If you take away the
Speaker 1: part of our humanity that has the ego right, that
Speaker 1: wants to look good, doesn't want to look bad, has
Speaker 1: all the fears, if you take away the part that
Speaker 1: thinks that this earth is all there is, and you
Speaker 1: get reconnected with that part of yourself that knows there's
Speaker 1: a bigger picture, that knows you came from a place
Speaker 1: and you're having this journey on earth, that knows that
Speaker 1: you're here to learn and you're here to grow, sees
Speaker 1: the biggest perspective of your life, Well, there's your soul.
Speaker 1: And so your soul is very, very wise. So some
Speaker 1: of these times she was saying, when you close your
Speaker 1: eyes and you do this blending in, allowing someone who
Speaker 1: wishes to work through you to be able to speak,
Speaker 1: she says, sometimes it is your own soul, she says,
Speaker 1: in fact, in the beginning that could be Sandra mixed
Speaker 1: in with her soul and maybe one percent someone from
Speaker 1: the spirit world or a guide. The idea is to
Speaker 1: practice to be comfortable to spend lots of time doing
Speaker 1: what's called sitting in the power, closing your eyes without
Speaker 1: expecting anything out of it, just saying I'm here in service,
Speaker 1: I want to learn, i want to develop, close your eyes,
Speaker 1: take several deep breaths, zone out, get to that place
Speaker 1: of nothingness if you can, with that loving intent to
Speaker 1: connect with that unseen world, and when the time is right,
Speaker 1: things happen. But in class we did some exercises with
Speaker 1: inspirational writing. So we would close our eyes and we
Speaker 1: would do this lending and quieting down, and then someone
Speaker 1: would ask a question, and in our notebooks we would
Speaker 1: just allow whatever thoughts came to mind to be written.
Speaker 1: And so with that there were thoughts that seem, I
Speaker 1: don't want to really say, divinely written, but they were
Speaker 1: pretty inspirational. I can say that there were things that
Speaker 1: came out of my pen on paper that I too
Speaker 1: had to look up the meaning of the words. I
Speaker 1: didn't know if they were really words, but it seemed
Speaker 1: to flow when my pen was writing. And when I
Speaker 1: say when my pen was writing, I was aware, I
Speaker 1: was alert, but I wasn't consciously creating words. I was
Speaker 1: just allowing words that were showing up in my mind
Speaker 1: to flow through the pen and onto the paper. One
Speaker 1: thing I want to say, also, I mentioned this a
Speaker 1: little bit earlier, that people don't take us over. You know,
Speaker 1: this is a subtle blending of energies. This is not
Speaker 1: like The Exorcist or anything that was a movie, scary movie.
Speaker 1: This is is love coming from the unseen world, which
Speaker 1: is all love. In the twenty five years i've been
Speaker 1: into this, I've never looked for paid attention to the weird, crazy,
Speaker 1: evil things, and you know what, none of that has
Speaker 1: ever shown up. Not saying it's not out there and
Speaker 1: not saying there aren't little green men on Mars and
Speaker 1: all of those different things. But I'm in the game
Speaker 1: of helping people through grief, helping people believe in the
Speaker 1: much bigger picture about the afterlife being real and us
Speaker 1: being powerful souls. So what we learned at the Arthur
Speaker 1: Finlay College is you do not need to do a
Speaker 1: prayer of protection from evil spirits. There are none now.
Speaker 1: If you don't believe me, you can still do a
Speaker 1: little prayer of protection if you want. If you want
Speaker 1: to picture yourself inside of a beautiful bubble that only good,
Speaker 1: loving things are there, you can certainly do that. It
Speaker 1: won't hurt anything. And with my trip to the Arthur
Speaker 1: Finley College, I left. They're excited, but I almost feel
Speaker 1: like I didn't get my money's worth, not because of them,
Speaker 1: but because of my own fears. So what did I do?
Speaker 1: I booked another trip and this time I went all
Speaker 1: by myself. There wasn't a single person there except for
Speaker 1: the instructor who knew who I was. And so I said,
Speaker 1: if not here where, you know, this is my opportunity
Speaker 1: to really put myself in. And during our experience, every
Speaker 1: time we did an exercise, I played full out. I
Speaker 1: closed my eyes. I did my very very best to
Speaker 1: quiet my mind. And that's what you need to do
Speaker 1: to let them latch hold of you. You know, this
Speaker 1: might be a bad comparison, but when I think of
Speaker 1: fighter jets and they're aiming a missile so to speak,
Speaker 1: you know, they've got to lock the target. And for
Speaker 1: our spirit friend to join with us, our mind has
Speaker 1: to be quiet enough so they can like lock targets
Speaker 1: on us and be able to work with us. And again,
Speaker 1: they're just working with our energy. They're not using us,
Speaker 1: they're not taking over us. We're very much aware that
Speaker 1: we are still in body, so don't worry about that.
Speaker 1: One of the most wonderful things that happened was, well,
Speaker 1: I'll give you a few one. We did lots of
Speaker 1: exercises of inspirational writing. Like I had just told you about.
Speaker 1: We did exercises where we would work with a partner
Speaker 1: and we would have the intention to blend with their
Speaker 1: loved one and write something just for them. And in
Speaker 1: those experiences, boy, I really felt like I was a
Speaker 1: mom or a dad, or a child or a sister
Speaker 1: and the words that would come out of my pen,
Speaker 1: it turned out, were just what they needed to hear.
Speaker 1: There was trance healing, where the spirit people can actually
Speaker 1: use our energy when we're in that special zone and
Speaker 1: send healing to another person. Something really spectacular that I
Speaker 1: witnessed was the instructor would go into trance and she
Speaker 1: would allow someone's loved one to talk through her. And
Speaker 1: again this was kind of like the movie Ghost. But
Speaker 1: on two occasions I saw her speaking, still her own voice,
Speaker 1: but giving the most beautiful messages to the two students.
Speaker 1: One was from a mother and one was from a father,
Speaker 1: and there are things no one else could know, and
Speaker 1: it had all of us in tears. That was special.
Speaker 1: And then just before we left, on the very last
Speaker 1: few hours of class, the instructor said, is there anyone
Speaker 1: here that would like to attempt to sit for the
Speaker 1: entire class? And you know what, as scared as I was,
Speaker 1: I raised my hand. So there was a group of
Speaker 1: about twenty five of us in a circle, and they
Speaker 1: were all sending me loving energy, you know, as one does.
Speaker 1: And I sat there, closed my eyes with everything that
Speaker 1: I learned from class, and just said, if I'm meant
Speaker 1: to be used as a messenger, you know, I'm here
Speaker 1: to serve. And after however many minutes, I just opened
Speaker 1: my mouth and said, spirit wants to say. And what
Speaker 1: flooded out from me was some kind of a story
Speaker 1: I'm told later about the journey of life, and it
Speaker 1: was about crossing an ocean and the boat and the
Speaker 1: moon and the stars. And while the words were coming
Speaker 1: out of my mouth, I couldn't pay attention to them,
Speaker 1: or else the words would stop. So I would have
Speaker 1: to just pay attention to my breathing and the words
Speaker 1: would continue. We've got to fit in a quick break
Speaker 1: and then I'll continue. You're listening to Shades of the
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sander Champlain
Speaker 1: and we're talking about spirit guides. And in this last segment,
Speaker 1: what I want to do is just finished telling you
Speaker 1: that story about what happened at the Arthur of Findlay College,
Speaker 1: and then I want to give you some practical tips
Speaker 1: to be in touch with your spirit guide. And these
Speaker 1: tips will also work with communicating with your loved ones.
Speaker 1: All right, So to finish my story, last I left
Speaker 1: you is I was sitting in a big circle of
Speaker 1: people with my eyes closed with the intention of blending
Speaker 1: in trans mediumship and delivering some words of inspiration. So
Speaker 1: after quite a while with my eyes closed, I just said,
Speaker 1: spirit wants to tell you. And then, as amazing as
Speaker 1: this sounds, words started just flooding out of my mouth.
Speaker 1: The more I tried to pay attention to the words,
Speaker 1: the words stopped. The more I went back to just
Speaker 1: paying attention to my breathing, the words continued. So we'll
Speaker 1: get into it in a minute how important it is
Speaker 1: to be in the present moment. But I don't know
Speaker 1: how long I was kind of out of it, but
Speaker 1: I just let the words flow, and I felt very
Speaker 1: animated by a male personality felt older to me. And
Speaker 1: what was very interesting is as this person was telling
Speaker 1: a story through me, I very much felt my body
Speaker 1: turning and moving as if I was leaning forward, as
Speaker 1: if I was looking at every person in that circle.
Speaker 1: And I just kept turning, looking around the circle and
Speaker 1: delivering the story. While at some point the story ended,
Speaker 1: I felt myself leaned back in the chair. And then
Speaker 1: after some time, several minutes, I opened my eyes and
Speaker 1: when I opened my eyes, the people in the circle
Speaker 1: were drawing their eyes. They were very touched by the
Speaker 1: words that were spoken. The instructor asked me, how was
Speaker 1: that for you? And I explained how weird it was
Speaker 1: when I tried to concentrate on the words. They stopped
Speaker 1: and she said that was absolutely natural, because we need
Speaker 1: to be in that present moment for them to work
Speaker 1: through us. And then I explained how weird it felt
Speaker 1: that I moved around so much, looking at everybody, leaning
Speaker 1: back and forth in my chair. And that's when people
Speaker 1: looked at me and they said, Sandra, you remained perfectly
Speaker 1: still that entire time. Well, I get goose bumps just
Speaker 1: telling you that story because there is this love that
Speaker 1: we each have that flows through us. Why they were
Speaker 1: crying and drawing their tears is because there was a
Speaker 1: story about being a sailor on an expedition across a
Speaker 1: mighty ocean with all the ups and downs and fear
Speaker 1: and twy some dark skies and rain and giant waves
Speaker 1: and all of that. And it was to pay attention
Speaker 1: to the journey, not the destination, and what we can
Speaker 1: learn from the journey. Something like that was what the
Speaker 1: message was. So it was very moved, and I was
Speaker 1: very proud of myself for raising my hand and doing
Speaker 1: something that I was scared to do. Our dreams coming
Speaker 1: true is on the other side of our comfort zone.
Speaker 1: So the present moment is of vital importance. It's the
Speaker 1: way our loved ones get through to us. It's the
Speaker 1: way the spirit, guides and friends get through to us.
Speaker 1: It's where answers come to us. It's where healing takes place,
Speaker 1: and it's hard to do. It's like building a muscle,
Speaker 1: and even no matter how much you build the muscle,
Speaker 1: it's still hard to get there. The best thing I
Speaker 1: can do for you and me to recommend that we
Speaker 1: get in touch with our spirit guides and our loved
Speaker 1: ones is to do the following practice. Now. I do
Speaker 1: think it's important that we journal this because our imagination
Speaker 1: absolutely does kick in. But if we keep track of
Speaker 1: the times we sit, you'll start seeing patterns to things.
Speaker 1: Or there might be a familiar face that keeps showing up,
Speaker 1: someone you don't know, someone you've never seen, and if
Speaker 1: they keep presenting themselves over and over, that might tend
Speaker 1: to be somebody who's supporting you in the unseen world.
Speaker 1: You have to have an intention. Is it a loved
Speaker 1: one that you want to work with or do you
Speaker 1: want to develop a relationship with your spirit guides. And
Speaker 1: while I say there could be one main spirit guide,
Speaker 1: I was reminded in between our break here when I
Speaker 1: did a little research that my instructor from the Arthur
Speaker 1: Finley College said there could be hundreds of spirit guides
Speaker 1: and one main voice. When I do the Friday trans
Speaker 1: demonstrations with GOT, what Mr Eric says is that he
Speaker 1: speaks on behalf of many. What I think is most
Speaker 1: important is that we all realize that we have this
Speaker 1: unseen world of help available to us, and not only
Speaker 1: that we have a very powerful soul. So to distinguish
Speaker 1: or is it my spirit guide or is it my soul?
Speaker 1: I don't think it really matters, because I think you're
Speaker 1: going to be moved with the goose bumps with some
Speaker 1: of the results you produce. So if you close your
Speaker 1: eyes and you can do this now, I'm going to
Speaker 1: do it quickly, but you can practice this one the
Speaker 1: episode is over. You close your eyes and you set
Speaker 1: that intention. It really is just asking from your heart
Speaker 1: that you connect with either your loved one or your
Speaker 1: spirit guide or inspirers that are in the unseen world
Speaker 1: who love you unconditionally. You set that little prayer of
Speaker 1: intention and just set it aside. And what I like
Speaker 1: to do is imagine that there's this golden light inside
Speaker 1: and as the light grows and gets brighter, just imagine
Speaker 1: it pouring out of your pores and just filling the
Speaker 1: entire room. What my instructor said at the Arthur Findly
Speaker 1: College was to imagine a very bright blue light off
Speaker 1: in the distance, and this can be the light of
Speaker 1: the universe of God, whoever your higher power is that
Speaker 1: is just overlooking everything, and to invite in your spirit guides.
Speaker 1: And for me, I would imagine these golden lights that
Speaker 1: would just come in and settle in in the space
Speaker 1: around me, getting closer and closer and closer, and just
Speaker 1: let their lights blend with your lights, and you can say,
Speaker 1: if there is anything you want to tell me, I'm
Speaker 1: here to receive anything you want to show me, any
Speaker 1: messages you have for me. But the important thing is
Speaker 1: to just quiet your mind, pay attention to your breathing,
Speaker 1: and just let go. And you may find doing this
Speaker 1: there's thoughts that come in, words that come in pictures
Speaker 1: that come into your mind, and as easy as it
Speaker 1: is to try to latch onto them and think about them,
Speaker 1: that turns off the flow of communication. So just let
Speaker 1: them come in and let them go. And when you're done,
Speaker 1: you can simply open your eyes and you could write
Speaker 1: down in your journal what you experienced. Pay attention to
Speaker 1: your feelings. There could be feelings of love that come in. Now,
Speaker 1: if you want to work with your loved one, you
Speaker 1: do the same thing. You set that intention. But what
Speaker 1: I find is most helpful is, yes, you can imagine
Speaker 1: them walking into your area of light, but also remember
Speaker 1: some of the great times you've had together, the loving times.
Speaker 1: Ignite feeling of love that you had together. And then
Speaker 1: just sit there in the silence. You may find that
Speaker 1: there's images and more memories that come in. You may
Speaker 1: feel a hug, you may feel the goose bumps. You
Speaker 1: may feel a little kiss on your cheek or on
Speaker 1: your forehead or on the top of your head. This
Speaker 1: all takes time and it takes practice. Remember, just like
Speaker 1: building a muscle. Another thing that I think you really
Speaker 1: enjoy doing is set the intention, just like we did
Speaker 1: for either the loved one or for your spirit guides.
Speaker 1: But have a piece of paper or a notebook, your
Speaker 1: journal andy, and maybe you have a question you have
Speaker 1: for them. After you sit for a while, let your
Speaker 1: hand start writing. There will be some words that come
Speaker 1: into your mind. And if no words show up, you
Speaker 1: can start the ball rolling by writing down some words.
Speaker 1: But then just listen in to what words come from
Speaker 1: your soul and write them as you hear them, and
Speaker 1: you may just find what I found is that after
Speaker 1: you write them all out and read them, they are
Speaker 1: some pretty profound words. If you have the intention of
Speaker 1: working with your loved one, same thing, talk to them,
Speaker 1: imagine their love and right again in the beginning, could
Speaker 1: you one percent them? But The more you practice and
Speaker 1: the more you sit, the more experiences you'll have of
Speaker 1: this connection. I want to let you in on a
Speaker 1: little secret. You don't have to just do this with
Speaker 1: your eyes closed. The more you close your eyes and sit,
Speaker 1: the more it charges a battery between here and the
Speaker 1: unseen world. But during the day, keep your mind in
Speaker 1: the present moment as best possible. Try not to be
Speaker 1: distracted by thoughts. Stay in the present moment to whatever
Speaker 1: it is you're doing, and don't be surprised if some
Speaker 1: ideas come to your mind, some words, and remember they're
Speaker 1: going to sound like your voice, that is the voice
Speaker 1: of the unseen world. If you're interested in exploring this more,
Speaker 1: I was at the Arthur Findlay College in June of
Speaker 1: two thousand and eighteen, and I found in our Facebook
Speaker 1: group seven videos of what was experienced, so you can
Speaker 1: follow along and you can do all of the exercises.
Speaker 1: If you're not part of our Facebook group yet, go
Speaker 1: to We Don't Die dot com. The top of the
Speaker 1: page says Facebook group, Join it. Once you're in it.
Speaker 1: Just beneath where it says recent media, you can click
Speaker 1: on see all, then click on videos, and then scroll
Speaker 1: to the bottom I have really long hair in these videos,
Speaker 1: and so you'll see me with the long hair and
Speaker 1: also with my eyes closed, and you'll see those of
Speaker 1: the videos from June two thousand and eighteen. You may
Speaker 1: also want to go to Amazon and type in Tony
Speaker 1: Stockwell Spirit Guide. He's got a great audio download that
Speaker 1: you can get and he also has a great trance
Speaker 1: c D. Also, every Friday you can witness Scott Milligan
Speaker 1: doing this tramp speaking and also join him and myself
Speaker 1: on one of our live classes that happen every week.
Speaker 1: And of course we have our free Sunday gathering with
Speaker 1: a medium demonstration online. If you need more details and
Speaker 1: you can't find them that we Don't Die dot com,
Speaker 1: just send me an email Sandra Champlaine at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1: I just want to remind you that around you is
Speaker 1: so much unseen love from your loved ones, from your guides,
Speaker 1: and you have a very divine soul working on your
Speaker 1: behalf also, so let's all just build that relationship with
Speaker 1: those that love us, that are right next to us.
Speaker 1: I want to thank you for listening and we'll talk
Speaker 1: again soon. You've been listening to Shades of the Afterlife
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