1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: You're listening to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: a paranormal podcast network where we offer you podcasts of 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: the supernatural and the unexplained. Getting ready now for Shades 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. The thoughts and opinions 5 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: expressed by the host our thoughts and opinions only, and 6 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: do not necessarily reflect those of I Heart Media, I 7 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: Heart Radio, Coast to Coast a out employees of premier 8 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: networks or their sponsors and associates. You are encouraged to 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: do the proper amount of research yourself, depending on the 10 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: subject matter and your needs. Hi. I'm Sandra Champlain. For 11 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: almost twenty five years, I've been on a journey to 12 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: prove the existence of life after death. On each episode 13 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: will discuss the reasons we now know that our loved 14 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:02,639 Speaker 1: ones have survived physical death and so will we Welcome 15 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: to Shades of the Afterlife. There has been a lot 16 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: coming up in my radar screen about spirit guides. You know, 17 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: these beings that unconditionally love us, that were with us 18 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: before we were born, that walk by our side and 19 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,639 Speaker 1: love us more than any human being possibly could. Yeah, 20 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 1: those people spirit guides. I don't think of them much, 21 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: and honestly, I don't always take my own advice, can 22 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: you believe it? While I'm human too, however, I do 23 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: believe in them. But I personally have never taken time 24 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: to form a relationship with whoever that person or those 25 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: people are that walk with me. But a lot has 26 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: come into my radar screen, so to speak, this past week, 27 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: past couple of weeks, actually about spirit guides. So I 28 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: thought we do a little bit of investigation. Who they are, 29 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: what they're about, what they do for us, and how 30 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: can get into communication with them. Let me start with 31 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: the most recent thing that happened was this past Saturday, 32 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,119 Speaker 1: I had lunch with my dear friend ROBERTA. Grimes. Now 33 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: you may know her. She is the author of the 34 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: Fun of Dying. I've interviewed her on this show. She's 35 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: a business attorney in a long time afterlife explorer. She's 36 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: got many many books out and she's got the website 37 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: seek reality dot com. She's also got the seek Reality 38 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: podcast with hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of great episodes. 39 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: When we met for lunch, she was talking to me 40 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: about her books and how it doesn't feel like she 41 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: wrote them. It feels like she channeled them. Now, this 42 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: isn't the first time I've heard that expression, that people 43 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: feel so much on autopilot that the words flow out 44 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: of them as if someone else had written them. So 45 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: when I talked to her a little bit more about it, 46 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: she spoke about her guide. His name is Thomas, And 47 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: I said, quite honestly, well, I don't really know who 48 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: my guides are. And she seemed a little surprised. You 49 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 1: know me who's been involved in afterlife research for so long. Well, 50 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: she said, she's developed such a relationship with her main guide, 51 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: this is Thomas, that over the years she's come to 52 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: learn what is him and what is her voice speaking. 53 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: We all have a soul, We are all very powerful. 54 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: We can all come up with some really great things 55 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: and some great ideas. And is it our soul or 56 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: is it one of these spirit guides? She said with 57 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: her the voice first started coming out as her own voice, 58 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: but it was these grand ideas and things that she 59 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: normally wouldn't have thought of. And as time went on 60 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: and through lots of conversation. In her conversation, this guide 61 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: presented himself started speaking with a more male voice as Thomas. 62 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: She says the way she distinguishes now, what is her 63 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: internal voice and what is her Thomas is? She says, 64 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: it's just over her left shoulder and back when he 65 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: speaks to her. That's the area it seems to come from, 66 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: this voice, and everything else that happens is within her 67 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: own head. But she says he draws attention to things. 68 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: He tells her what projects she needs to work on next. 69 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: When she's writing a book, he's right there putting in 70 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: his thoughts and his words, And she says sometimes she 71 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,799 Speaker 1: even has to look up the words in a dictionary 72 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: to make sure they are words, and a lot of 73 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: them are old words that haven't been used in a 74 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: long time. Roberta is a smart cookie. She is very intelligent. 75 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: She's very skeptical, and so to hear the story from her, 76 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: there's credibility to it. Now. Also on my rate our screen, 77 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: here is our friend Scott Milligan who every Friday does 78 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: a demonstration of trance mediumship, and through him speaks a voice, 79 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: a person by the name of Eric. Completely different personality, 80 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: voice and everything is Scott. And I've known Scott for 81 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: now about six years, and he is a completely different 82 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: person than this Eric. And when Eric speaks. He speaks 83 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: in an old English voice, uses words that we don't 84 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: hear too much these days, and you can ask him 85 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: a question about anything. He never misses a beat, never 86 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,239 Speaker 1: does an um or let me think about it, or 87 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: that hesitation that we do as humans. He is smooth talking. 88 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: He can answer any question about life, death, in the 89 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: afterlife again without missing a beat. So we host online classes, 90 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: as you know, and one of them, Scott was talking 91 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: about meeting our spirit guides. So for me it's like, okay, 92 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: here's spirit guides coming up again. And on a meditation 93 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: that he did or leading us in this sitting and 94 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: quieting of the mind, he had us imagine the love 95 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: from our parents or whoever is no longer walking on 96 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: this earth with us, someone who is deceased, and had 97 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: us really envision and feel a memory of being close 98 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: to them. And it is his belief, as with many others, 99 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: that the way to connect with our loved ones is 100 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: through the language of emotion. So closing your eyes and 101 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: having a memory and really feeling the love that kind 102 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: of is the gateway to open up that conversation with them. 103 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: And what they do is you know some of them, yes, 104 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: can learn how to flicker light switches on and off, 105 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: and put messages on cell phones and things like that. 106 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: But for most they retain their personality by someone who 107 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: is soft spoken and quiet and let's everybody speak. Before 108 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: her would have been my grandmother, So it's no wonder 109 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: that in all these years since she's passed about fourteen now, 110 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: that she's only come through a couple of times, that 111 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: was her personality. And then he get my dad, who 112 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: was well, I don't want to say he was entertaining. 113 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: He wasn't, but he was very vocal with his beliefs. 114 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: I'll put it to you that way. Great guy. Everybody 115 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: loved him, very very positive. So it's no wonder he's 116 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: like the first on the scene. And of course I 117 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: love them both very much, different personalities. So in this 118 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: meditation we were doing with Scott, I imagined some time 119 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: I spent with my dad, And what came first to 120 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: mind is when I spent so many days holding his 121 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: hand in the hospital room before he passed. We had 122 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: such a great connection. I would bring in my computer 123 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: and two headsets and we would watch movies and tell 124 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: stories and do whatever was possible to pay attention to 125 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: something positive instead of him concentrating on the pain that 126 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: he was feeling. I remembered those times with my dad 127 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: and just that pure love that I felt for him, 128 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: and it was almost like this whish that came through, 129 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: and all kinds of other memories just get implanted in 130 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: my mind, almost like a slide show. Now, my brain 131 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: can't come up with things that fast, so it is 132 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: trusting that this is my dad coming through. I could 133 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: feel a hug, I could feel his presence, I could 134 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: feel what it was like to hold his hand. These 135 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: are all very subtle things. And yes, it's easy to 136 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: think this is our imagination, but like any muscle that 137 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: we want to develop, we have to strengthen it. So 138 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: the more times we do that, the more our loved 139 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: one is like, hey, they're really trying to get through 140 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: to me. Let me try from my end too. Well. 141 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: During this men aitation, Scott had asked our loved one 142 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: to introduce us to our spirit guide. Now, I wish 143 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: I could tell you that all of a sudden VOI la, 144 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: this most wonderful spirit guide was there with me. But 145 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: it didn't happen that way. My rational brain kicked in 146 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: and said, hey, wait a minute, wait a minute. The 147 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: way we human beings work is when we want an 148 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: answer to something, something will show up in our mind, 149 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: whether we put it there or the other world puts 150 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: it there. So let me ask you a question. Right now. 151 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: Think of a color and boom you probably thought of one. 152 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:42,119 Speaker 1: I just thought of purple. Think of a number, Boom, 153 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: there you got one, right, Well, my mind just came 154 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: up with four. Think of someone you love that's no 155 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: longer walking this earth. Boom, there they are, right, And 156 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: my mind saw my grandmother. Does it mean that my 157 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: grandmother is not there? No, But something like this, when 158 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: we're trying to picture something on demand, I really think 159 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: our imagination can kick in. So if I were to say, 160 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: imagine your spirit guide right now, you know you may 161 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: have somebody from history. Abraham Lincoln just popped into my mind, 162 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: the president of the United States. Doesn't mean he's not 163 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: there cheering me on. Well, who knows, you know. But 164 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: I don't think this is the right way to access 165 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: our spirit guides. Not saying that Scott's method doesn't work. 166 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: I do think the more times I relax and allow 167 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: my mind to just be present and feel the love 168 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: and feel that intention say, the more times the same 169 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: person starts coming in. The more times it might be, Hey, 170 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: you might be here guiding me. There may be many 171 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: people guiding us as well. It said that we all 172 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: have a main spirit person that has walked this earth, 173 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: who is there before we are born. We discuss how 174 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: we're going to play this game called life, and they're 175 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: the first to greet us when we return home. And 176 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: it's also said that depending on what we have going 177 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: on in our life, spirit guides come and go. So 178 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: if you start a new project and you suddenly decide 179 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: you want to paint something, and you buy yourself a 180 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: canvas and some oil paints, and you maybe have a 181 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: course online that you're following, now, there's a good chance 182 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: that a spirit guide who's got some skill in art 183 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: might step in. Have you ever felt like you were 184 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: in the zone so present to something that time goes 185 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: by and you don't even realize it. Well, I think 186 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: those are some of the times that our guides come 187 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: in and that our soul is on fire in a 188 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: good way. So I really want to use our time 189 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: together today investigating our spirit guides and by the end 190 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: of the episode have a practice that we can all 191 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: do to build this relationship. Now, the truth is, we 192 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: may never know who they are, we may never have 193 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: a name, we may never know if they're male or 194 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: their female. But what we will all know is that 195 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: right by your side, standing there with a big old smile, 196 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: is someone who loves you so unconditionally, more than any 197 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: human being ever has, someone who has walked every step 198 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: with you, someone who has taken every breath with you, 199 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: someone who has given their soul's existence to make your 200 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 1: life better. So again, by the end, we're going to 201 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: be open to this and also start a conversation with them, 202 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: an ongoing one. So we're going to go into our 203 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: very first break, and when we come back, I'm want 204 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 1: to tell you some of the things I know and 205 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: some of the really wonderful experiences I've had. You're listening 206 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: to Shades of the Afterlife on the I Heart Radio 207 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast a m paranormal podcast network. 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It's the official Coast to Coast AM 242 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: YouTube channel. You're gonna love this. Just get on over 243 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: to Coast to Coast am dot com and start your 244 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: free listening. Now. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. 245 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: I'm Sander Champlain, and we are talking about spirit guides. 246 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: When I spoke earlier about Scott Milligan having this Eric 247 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: who speaks through him. He's also got a Native American 248 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: called morning Star, a young fellow named Daniel, and so 249 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: many more. There are what's called guides. There are also 250 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: friends and helpers. I do believe, there's angels, and there 251 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: are our loved ones. Now I'm just thinking about angels. 252 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: The first thoughts I have of these spirit helpers, and 253 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: maybe you experience this too, are these parking lot angels, 254 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: some being that would help you find a parking space. 255 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: If you get to a busy mall or shopping center, 256 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: you just ask your angel help me find a spot, 257 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: and voila, there is a spot. Now. I have done 258 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: this from time to time. Haven't always found a spot, 259 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: but I never really gave it too much credibility. A 260 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: lot of people completely believe in this. It's very possible 261 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: that there are these angels helping us out, but they 262 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: also may be known as our spirit guides. Now, when 263 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: somebody works through Scott through trance mediumship, he says that 264 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: they are his friends, not so much their guides. These 265 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: are people that work with him to help spread inspiration 266 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: to the masses, and that they do. They really do. 267 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: They bring so much comfort and hope and really great conversations. 268 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: The guides can remain more quiet in the background, but 269 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: they're always there. I think just knowing that we have 270 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: this team of invisible beings, these people, is amazing to me. 271 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: So it's not just our guides, it is these friends 272 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: that can help us with different things in life, perhaps 273 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: angelic beings who have never come here before, and then 274 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: as a real bonus, our loved ones. Now. Our loved 275 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: ones are busy, they have their lives to live. They're 276 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: still learning and growing on the other side, but they 277 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: are absolutely only a thought away. In fact, they could 278 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: be busy doing one thing and then pop over and 279 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: be with you. It's amazing some of the evidence that 280 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: I hear in the demonstrations of mediumship, just how close 281 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: they are and what they witness. One of the first 282 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: times that I saw these friends in action and learned 283 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: about trans mediumship is when I took a trip to 284 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: the Arthur Finlay College in the UK with my friend Darla. 285 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: And Darla I had met back on a workshop years 286 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: and years ago. I love her dearly. She's always interested 287 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: in trying new things, and she always has a foot 288 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 1: into mediumship and all kinds of artistic things. She's really 289 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: great exploring her passions. But we decided to go to 290 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: the Arthur Finlay College and it has been Oh the 291 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: building itself has been in existence for hundreds and hundreds 292 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: of years, but it is the foremost place to go 293 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: when one is considering psychic studies. There are different tutors 294 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: there that come around each week there's someone new. They're 295 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: good hearted people, all based in the truth that we 296 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: are spiritual beings having a human experience, that our loved 297 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: ones go on, and that there's a way to get 298 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: in touch with them. The Great Gordon Higginson is one 299 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: of the people that are responsible for having the Arthur 300 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: Finlay College be here present day. Old Arthur Finley. Back 301 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: in the day he and Gertrude Finley witnessed some amazing 302 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 1: mediumship and they gave their home, which is a massive 303 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: mansion a state. I mean, it's huge. They gave this 304 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: so that people could continue studying and learning about the afterlife. 305 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: It's a beautiful old place and if you think of 306 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: the movie Harry Potter, one of those kind of places 307 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: is what I think of when I think of the 308 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,479 Speaker 1: Arthur Finley College. When we went to the college, we 309 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: went for a week. We pre arranged to take this 310 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: general mediumship course, and when we got there, they divied 311 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: us up between how much a mediumship experience we had, 312 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: and although I had taken a few small courses in 313 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: the past, I really felt like I was a beginner. 314 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: You know, I still feel like I'm a beginner. Even 315 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: though I've taken lots of classes, there's always more to explore. 316 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: Darla was in a different class because she had more 317 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: experience than I did, and we would learn how our 318 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: psychic faculty works and what mediumship is, and it's using 319 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: our psychic faculty, and instead of working with human to human, 320 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: it's working human to someone who's no longer walking this earth. 321 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: So it was pretty extraordinary. I was so passionate about 322 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: what I learned. That's one of the reasons why we 323 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: do the online mediumship classes with the great tutors Carrie 324 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: McLeod and Philip Dike's they've both stemmed from Gordon Higginson's 325 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: mediumship and they can both teach on this way, you know, 326 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: which really does tap into I think the best evidence 327 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 1: that our loved ones are around. So during this class, 328 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: they also offered an extra class we could do and 329 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 1: there were choices from trance mediumship to recordings like electronic 330 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: voice phenomena and things like that. The night before I 331 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: had witnessed Eileen Davies, who is another great trans medium 332 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: do trans mediumship, and I tell you what, I couldn't 333 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: even believe what I experienced. This woman sat in the sanctuary. 334 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: It's kind of like the inside of a church on 335 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: the altar, so to speak, and she had two ladies 336 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: by her side. She closed her eyes. There were a 337 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 1: couple of songs played, and then yes, the voice of 338 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: someone else spoke through her. It was an Asian gentleman 339 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: with beautiful inspiration. The second voice that came through was 340 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: a friend, more like a voice that Eileen spoke with, 341 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: and she has a British accent. The third voice that 342 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: came through was someone called Ula, someone who had been 343 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: a slave in the Deep South, who had a really 344 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: strong Southern American accent from those days, filled with personality. 345 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: She was talking to the audience. Even though Eileen's eyes 346 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: were closed, she could still see the people in front 347 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: of her and talk to them, and it was amazing. 348 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: So when I could choose an extra class, what I 349 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,719 Speaker 1: really wanted to shoose was this trans mediumship. However, because 350 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: I had no experience and I was a beginner, they 351 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: put me in the class with the electronic voice phenomena 352 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,479 Speaker 1: in using our phones to capture lights and things like that. 353 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: It was interesting, but I have to be honest with you, 354 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: my heart was broken because I really wanted to explore 355 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: what this trans medium ship was all about. When I 356 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: returned home, though, Darla had told me about a medium 357 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 1: by the name of Tony Stockwell, and I had not 358 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: heard of him at that time. So I checked out 359 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: on YouTube and there are tons and tons and tons 360 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: of demonstrations that he had done publicly when he was younger. 361 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: I mean, he was right on giving information about loved 362 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: ones who were deceased. Now picture this deep in my soul. 363 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: I want to learn more about trans mediumship, and all 364 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: of a sudden, I am finding out about this amazing 365 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: medium called Tony Stockwell. There's a place in Rhinebeck, New 366 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: York called the Omega Center where I had my first 367 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: experiences capturing electronic voice phenomena, and I felt like I 368 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: wanted to go back. So there was just that little 369 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: tug on my soul. Now, was it my spirit guide? 370 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: Was it my soul speaking to me? I don't know. 371 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: But I had one weekend free. I went to the 372 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: Omega website to see who was teaching that weekend and 373 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: guess what I saw? Tony Stockwell teaching a class in 374 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: trance mediumship. Now I can't make this stuff up. These 375 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: are the times that I feel like I'm divinely guided. 376 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: And it's not just me, it's you too. Have you 377 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: had times in your life that you get this pull 378 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: or you've got this synchronicity that happens, and you just 379 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: have this feeling like I was meant to be here. Well, 380 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,239 Speaker 1: I felt like I was meant to go to that 381 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: Tony Stockwell weekend, and sure enough I did. It was 382 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: the place where everybody was accepted, no matter what experience 383 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: you had or you didn't have. And Tony talked about 384 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: us all having these beings that are around us that 385 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: work with us. Guides is what he called them, and 386 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: he said they can work through us, they can provide 387 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: inspiration to ourselves and to others. And how important it 388 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: is to build up a relationship with them. I mean, 389 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 1: could you imagine standing by someone's side for an entire lifetime, 390 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: in them not even talking to you, and you continually 391 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: giving them love and support. And what would it be 392 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: like to have that person all of a sudden say hey, 393 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: I know you're around, I can't quite see you, I 394 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: don't know your name, but thank you. And to build 395 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: that relationship, I think more and more and more things 396 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: would come. So in the class with Tony Stockwell, we 397 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: had different experiences of closing our eyes and letting Tony 398 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: guide us into that place of being totally still, and 399 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: then with a loving thought, whoever it is that's working 400 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: with us, if they would like to step into our presence. Now, 401 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: they don't take us over, they don't. It is just 402 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: a blending of energies. So I'm always quite aware that 403 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: I'm still Sandra. But the goose bumps would start, you know, 404 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,719 Speaker 1: like Patrick Swayze stepping into Whoopi Goldberg in the movie Ghost. 405 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't convinced that this wasn't my imagination. 406 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: There was a great exercise that we got to do. 407 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: So I was with these two ladies that I didn't know, 408 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: and Tony said, we want each one of you to 409 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: have practice being the medium and letting someone speak through you. 410 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: Now I had never done this before, and the two 411 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 1: ladies had, so I was a little intimidated. But I 412 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: am of the thought that I would rather get something 413 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: done first than sit there in fear. I closed my eyes. 414 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: Tony led us to this very quiet place. He also said, 415 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: you can get the ball rolling by saying spirit wants 416 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: to tell you, and then whatever comes out of your mouth. 417 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: So it takes some time, so it's not as easy 418 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: as just closing your eyes and these great words of 419 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: wisdom come out. In fact, there are some people that 420 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: are fraudulent channel ers trans mediums out there that will 421 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: simply close their eyes and all of a sudden speak 422 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: as if there's someone else be weary of that. It 423 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: takes a good ten minutes or so of really having 424 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: that person quiet their mind before this happens. And with that, 425 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: with my eyes closed, I literally felt the presence of 426 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: a woman who was wearing like a whalebone corset. Felt 427 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 1: like I was wearing these old shoes from like the 428 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds. I had a bun in my hair, and 429 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: I was older. I felt like I had a gray 430 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 1: dress on and it was very interesting. But again I 431 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,479 Speaker 1: didn't know if this was my imagination. So I just 432 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: start out speaking. I said, ere it wants to say, 433 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: And I have to tell you, it was like this 434 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: whoosh that came through me. All these words started coming 435 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: out of my mouth, very very powerful, and I kind 436 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: of shocked myself. So I stopped and I opened my 437 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: eyes and I'm like, okay, what do you guys? Goes next? 438 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: Something came over me in a beautiful way, filled with power, 439 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: filled with almost like women's rights. That's what I would 440 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: have to say. That woman felt like she was in 441 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: those times. Anyways, incredible experience. So I want to tell 442 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: you what happened next, but of course we have a break. 443 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the I 444 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 445 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: Keep it here on the I Heart Radio and Coast 446 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,719 Speaker 1: to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Sander Champlain will be 447 00:27:54,880 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: right back. Hey, it's the Wizard of Weird Joshua Pee Warren. 448 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: Don't forget to check out my show Strange Things each 449 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: week as I bring you the world of the truly 450 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: amazing and bizarre right here on the I Heart Radio 451 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. You're listening 452 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: to the new I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 453 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 1: AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Now let's get back to Shades 454 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlaine. Welcome back to Shades 455 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: of the Afterlife. I'm Sander Champlain and we are talking 456 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: about spirit guides. Where I last left this conversation was 457 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: after my very first experience with trans mediumship, sitting with 458 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: two ladies I didn't know, closing my eyes for a 459 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: good solid ten minutes or so, and out of my 460 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: own mouth came some very profound words, words that were 461 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: empowering to these women, about what it was to be 462 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: a woman, about how to stand up for themselves and 463 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: things like that. Now I couldn't pay attention to the words, 464 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: because if I did, the words would stop. But I 465 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,239 Speaker 1: certainly felt the presence of this woman, as if I 466 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: was wearing the gray dress and the whalebone corset and 467 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: these old timer shoes. When I opened my eyes, these 468 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: women were very emotional. It was like just the words 469 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,959 Speaker 1: they needed to hear. And for me, it was an 470 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: amazing experience. Just knowing that there's people or a person 471 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: this close nearby that is so empowering. Now I want 472 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: to warn you against something, because in my discoveries, there's 473 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: some really great people, but there's also some crazies. I 474 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: was at a conference and this gentleman really wanted to 475 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: give me a reading, so to speak. And I didn't 476 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: know quite who he was. I thought he was some 477 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: kind of a trance medium. He sat on the couch 478 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: next to me, he threw his head back. All of 479 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: a sudden, he straightened up. He started staring into my 480 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: eyes and making all these kind of weird gestures with 481 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: his face. And his significant other was saying that he 482 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: was channeling the Virgin Mary. And you know what, I 483 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: just didn't quite buy it. I was freaked out. I 484 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: was uncomfortable. But what did I decide to do, because 485 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: you know we all have that inner BS detector. Instead 486 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: of backing down, what I did as I straightened up 487 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: and I went right face to face with him and 488 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: looked right into his eyes. The next thing, you know, 489 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: his eyes closed. He threw his head back on the couch. 490 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: He opened his eyes again and said, oh, I'm back. 491 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: You know what, for me, that wasn't proof of anything. 492 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: When people come through Guide's Friends, whatever you want to 493 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: call them, there needs to be an intelligence. It cannot 494 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: insult you by any means. There needs to be words 495 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: that touch your soul as if sent by God and 496 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: so to speak, or the truth. There should never be 497 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: words that hurt you, make you feel uncomfortable, make you 498 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: feel upset. Really, you are a very powerful soul. Let 499 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: things resonate within you. There are people out there on 500 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: the internet charging some big sums of money to do 501 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: demonstrations even private readings this way, and because it's different 502 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: and unique, it's very easy for people to think it's real. 503 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: But again, let it bounce off your inner BS detector. 504 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: If it resonates like the truth and it makes you happy, 505 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: go for it. So as my journey continued, you know, 506 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: somewhere in this time, I took a trip to Bannion 507 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: Retreat in the UK and that's where I met our 508 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: friend Scott Milligan and first got to see him demonstrate 509 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: his trance mediumship with the different friends that speak through him. 510 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: I was left with such an urge to find out 511 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: more about this, so I took a course back in 512 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: the UK at the Arthur Finley College. Took my friend 513 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: Darla with me and she took another course, and every 514 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: night I would just report in on what I learned. 515 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: I did the experiments between different people in the class 516 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: and myself, and what I witnessed was really profound about 517 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: other people having these powerful voices coming through them. I 518 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: have a lot of fear within me, and as human beings, 519 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: we don't want to feel stupid or look silly or 520 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: anything like that. So I think I was a little 521 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: too on edge, a little too high strung to totally 522 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: relax into it. But there were definitely sometimes working one 523 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: on one with someone that I felt a presence of 524 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: someone come through me and speak. Now, what the instructor 525 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: said is that we are souls having a human experience. 526 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: Of course, our souls are divine and they're very intelligent. 527 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: And what she said is, when you speak, you may 528 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: think it's someone else, but it may be your own soul. 529 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: So this was the first time I started thinking, oh, 530 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: I've got an intelligent soul. If you take away the 531 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: part of our humanity that has the ego right, that 532 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: wants to look good, doesn't want to look bad, has 533 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: all the fears, if you take away the part that 534 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: thinks that this earth is all there is, and you 535 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: get reconnected with that part of yourself that knows there's 536 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: a bigger picture, that knows you came from a place 537 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: and you're having this journey on earth, that knows that 538 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: you're here to learn and you're here to grow, sees 539 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: the biggest perspective of your life, Well, there's your soul. 540 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: And so your soul is very, very wise. So some 541 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: of these times she was saying, when you close your 542 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: eyes and you do this blending in, allowing someone who 543 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 1: wishes to work through you to be able to speak, 544 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 1: she says, sometimes it is your own soul, she says, 545 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: in fact, in the beginning that could be Sandra mixed 546 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: in with her soul and maybe one percent someone from 547 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: the spirit world or a guide. The idea is to 548 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: practice to be comfortable to spend lots of time doing 549 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: what's called sitting in the power, closing your eyes without 550 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 1: expecting anything out of it, just saying I'm here in service, 551 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,720 Speaker 1: I want to learn, i want to develop, close your eyes, 552 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: take several deep breaths, zone out, get to that place 553 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: of nothingness if you can, with that loving intent to 554 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: connect with that unseen world, and when the time is right, 555 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: things happen. But in class we did some exercises with 556 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,919 Speaker 1: inspirational writing. So we would close our eyes and we 557 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: would do this lending and quieting down, and then someone 558 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: would ask a question, and in our notebooks we would 559 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: just allow whatever thoughts came to mind to be written. 560 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: And so with that there were thoughts that seem, I 561 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 1: don't want to really say, divinely written, but they were 562 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: pretty inspirational. I can say that there were things that 563 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: came out of my pen on paper that I too 564 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: had to look up the meaning of the words. I 565 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,240 Speaker 1: didn't know if they were really words, but it seemed 566 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: to flow when my pen was writing. And when I 567 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: say when my pen was writing, I was aware, I 568 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: was alert, but I wasn't consciously creating words. I was 569 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,760 Speaker 1: just allowing words that were showing up in my mind 570 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: to flow through the pen and onto the paper. One 571 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 1: thing I want to say, also, I mentioned this a 572 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: little bit earlier, that people don't take us over. You know, 573 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 1: this is a subtle blending of energies. This is not 574 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: like The Exorcist or anything that was a movie, scary movie. 575 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,479 Speaker 1: This is is love coming from the unseen world, which 576 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,959 Speaker 1: is all love. In the twenty five years i've been 577 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:13,280 Speaker 1: into this, I've never looked for paid attention to the weird, crazy, 578 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: evil things, and you know what, none of that has 579 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: ever shown up. Not saying it's not out there and 580 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 1: not saying there aren't little green men on Mars and 581 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,439 Speaker 1: all of those different things. But I'm in the game 582 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: of helping people through grief, helping people believe in the 583 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: much bigger picture about the afterlife being real and us 584 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: being powerful souls. So what we learned at the Arthur 585 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: Finlay College is you do not need to do a 586 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: prayer of protection from evil spirits. There are none now. 587 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: If you don't believe me, you can still do a 588 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 1: little prayer of protection if you want. If you want 589 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: to picture yourself inside of a beautiful bubble that only good, 590 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: loving things are there, you can certainly do that. It 591 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 1: won't hurt anything. And with my trip to the Arthur 592 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: Finley College, I left. They're excited, but I almost feel 593 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 1: like I didn't get my money's worth, not because of them, 594 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: but because of my own fears. So what did I do? 595 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: I booked another trip and this time I went all 596 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 1: by myself. There wasn't a single person there except for 597 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 1: the instructor who knew who I was. And so I said, 598 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 1: if not here where, you know, this is my opportunity 599 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: to really put myself in. And during our experience, every 600 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: time we did an exercise, I played full out. I 601 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: closed my eyes. I did my very very best to 602 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: quiet my mind. And that's what you need to do 603 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: to let them latch hold of you. You know, this 604 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 1: might be a bad comparison, but when I think of 605 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: fighter jets and they're aiming a missile so to speak, 606 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: you know, they've got to lock the target. And for 607 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,919 Speaker 1: our spirit friend to join with us, our mind has 608 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: to be quiet enough so they can like lock targets 609 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: on us and be able to work with us. And again, 610 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 1: they're just working with our energy. They're not using us, 611 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: they're not taking over us. We're very much aware that 612 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: we are still in body, so don't worry about that. 613 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: One of the most wonderful things that happened was, well, 614 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: I'll give you a few one. We did lots of 615 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: exercises of inspirational writing. Like I had just told you about. 616 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,240 Speaker 1: We did exercises where we would work with a partner 617 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,399 Speaker 1: and we would have the intention to blend with their 618 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 1: loved one and write something just for them. And in 619 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 1: those experiences, boy, I really felt like I was a 620 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: mom or a dad, or a child or a sister 621 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 1: and the words that would come out of my pen, 622 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: it turned out, were just what they needed to hear. 623 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: There was trance healing, where the spirit people can actually 624 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: use our energy when we're in that special zone and 625 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: send healing to another person. Something really spectacular that I 626 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 1: witnessed was the instructor would go into trance and she 627 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: would allow someone's loved one to talk through her. And 628 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: again this was kind of like the movie Ghost. But 629 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: on two occasions I saw her speaking, still her own voice, 630 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 1: but giving the most beautiful messages to the two students. 631 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: One was from a mother and one was from a father, 632 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: and there are things no one else could know, and 633 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:43,280 Speaker 1: it had all of us in tears. That was special. 634 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,320 Speaker 1: And then just before we left, on the very last 635 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 1: few hours of class, the instructor said, is there anyone 636 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 1: here that would like to attempt to sit for the 637 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: entire class? And you know what, as scared as I was, 638 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 1: I raised my hand. So there was a group of 639 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: about twenty five of us in a circle, and they 640 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: were all sending me loving energy, you know, as one does. 641 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: And I sat there, closed my eyes with everything that 642 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: I learned from class, and just said, if I'm meant 643 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,399 Speaker 1: to be used as a messenger, you know, I'm here 644 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,720 Speaker 1: to serve. And after however many minutes, I just opened 645 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 1: my mouth and said, spirit wants to say. And what 646 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 1: flooded out from me was some kind of a story 647 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 1: I'm told later about the journey of life, and it 648 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 1: was about crossing an ocean and the boat and the 649 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 1: moon and the stars. And while the words were coming 650 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 1: out of my mouth, I couldn't pay attention to them, 651 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: or else the words would stop. So I would have 652 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: to just pay attention to my breathing and the words 653 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 1: would continue. We've got to fit in a quick break 654 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 1: and then I'll continue. You're listening to Shades of the 655 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: Afterlife on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 656 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:06,320 Speaker 1: AM here on normal podcast network. Stare right there. There's 657 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: more Sandra coming right out. Okay, folks, we need your music. Hey, 658 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: it's producer Tom at Coast to Coast AM and every 659 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,760 Speaker 1: first Sunday of the month, we play music from emerging 660 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 1: artists just like you. If you're a musician or a 661 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 1: singer and have recorded music you'd like to submit, it's 662 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: very easy. Just go to Coast to Coast a m 663 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 1: dot com, click the emerging Artists banner in the carousel, 664 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 1: follow the instructions and we just might play your music 665 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,280 Speaker 1: on the air. Go now to Coast to Coast am 666 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 1: dot com to send us your recording. That's Coast to 667 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 1: Coast am dot com. And now more Sandra on the 668 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,320 Speaker 1: your Heart Radio and coast to coast Damn Paranormal Podcast Network. 669 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sander Champlain 670 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 1: and we're talking about spirit guides. And in this last segment, 671 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: what I want to do is just finished telling you 672 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 1: that story about what happened at the Arthur of Findlay College, 673 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,760 Speaker 1: and then I want to give you some practical tips 674 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 1: to be in touch with your spirit guide. And these 675 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:26,320 Speaker 1: tips will also work with communicating with your loved ones. 676 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 1: All right, So to finish my story, last I left 677 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: you is I was sitting in a big circle of 678 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: people with my eyes closed with the intention of blending 679 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 1: in trans mediumship and delivering some words of inspiration. So 680 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 1: after quite a while with my eyes closed, I just said, 681 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 1: spirit wants to tell you. And then, as amazing as 682 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 1: this sounds, words started just flooding out of my mouth. 683 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,320 Speaker 1: The more I tried to pay attention to the words, 684 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: the words stopped. The more I went back to just 685 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: paying attention to my breathing, the words continued. So we'll 686 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 1: get into it in a minute how important it is 687 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 1: to be in the present moment. But I don't know 688 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 1: how long I was kind of out of it, but 689 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 1: I just let the words flow, and I felt very 690 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 1: animated by a male personality felt older to me. And 691 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,320 Speaker 1: what was very interesting is as this person was telling 692 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 1: a story through me, I very much felt my body 693 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 1: turning and moving as if I was leaning forward, as 694 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 1: if I was looking at every person in that circle. 695 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: And I just kept turning, looking around the circle and 696 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: delivering the story. While at some point the story ended, 697 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,760 Speaker 1: I felt myself leaned back in the chair. And then 698 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 1: after some time, several minutes, I opened my eyes and 699 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 1: when I opened my eyes, the people in the circle 700 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 1: were drawing their eyes. They were very touched by the 701 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 1: words that were spoken. The instructor asked me, how was 702 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 1: that for you? And I explained how weird it was 703 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: when I tried to concentrate on the words. They stopped 704 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: and she said that was absolutely natural, because we need 705 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: to be in that present moment for them to work 706 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 1: through us. And then I explained how weird it felt 707 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 1: that I moved around so much, looking at everybody, leaning 708 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: back and forth in my chair. And that's when people 709 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 1: looked at me and they said, Sandra, you remained perfectly 710 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 1: still that entire time. Well, I get goose bumps just 711 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 1: telling you that story because there is this love that 712 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 1: we each have that flows through us. Why they were 713 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 1: crying and drawing their tears is because there was a 714 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 1: story about being a sailor on an expedition across a 715 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:59,360 Speaker 1: mighty ocean with all the ups and downs and fear 716 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,280 Speaker 1: and twy some dark skies and rain and giant waves 717 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 1: and all of that. And it was to pay attention 718 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,319 Speaker 1: to the journey, not the destination, and what we can 719 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 1: learn from the journey. Something like that was what the 720 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,360 Speaker 1: message was. So it was very moved, and I was 721 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 1: very proud of myself for raising my hand and doing 722 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,759 Speaker 1: something that I was scared to do. Our dreams coming 723 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 1: true is on the other side of our comfort zone. 724 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 1: So the present moment is of vital importance. It's the 725 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 1: way our loved ones get through to us. It's the 726 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 1: way the spirit, guides and friends get through to us. 727 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 1: It's where answers come to us. It's where healing takes place, 728 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,720 Speaker 1: and it's hard to do. It's like building a muscle, 729 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 1: and even no matter how much you build the muscle, 730 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 1: it's still hard to get there. The best thing I 731 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 1: can do for you and me to recommend that we 732 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: get in touch with our spirit guides and our loved 733 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 1: ones is to do the following practice. Now. I do 734 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 1: think it's important that we journal this because our imagination 735 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 1: absolutely does kick in. But if we keep track of 736 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 1: the times we sit, you'll start seeing patterns to things. 737 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 1: Or there might be a familiar face that keeps showing up, 738 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: someone you don't know, someone you've never seen, and if 739 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 1: they keep presenting themselves over and over, that might tend 740 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 1: to be somebody who's supporting you in the unseen world. 741 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,720 Speaker 1: You have to have an intention. Is it a loved 742 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 1: one that you want to work with or do you 743 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,960 Speaker 1: want to develop a relationship with your spirit guides. And 744 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,720 Speaker 1: while I say there could be one main spirit guide, 745 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 1: I was reminded in between our break here when I 746 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 1: did a little research that my instructor from the Arthur 747 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 1: Finley College said there could be hundreds of spirit guides 748 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 1: and one main voice. When I do the Friday trans 749 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:03,279 Speaker 1: demonstrations with GOT, what Mr Eric says is that he 750 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 1: speaks on behalf of many. What I think is most 751 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 1: important is that we all realize that we have this 752 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 1: unseen world of help available to us, and not only 753 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 1: that we have a very powerful soul. So to distinguish 754 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 1: or is it my spirit guide or is it my soul? 755 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 1: I don't think it really matters, because I think you're 756 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,319 Speaker 1: going to be moved with the goose bumps with some 757 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 1: of the results you produce. So if you close your 758 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 1: eyes and you can do this now, I'm going to 759 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 1: do it quickly, but you can practice this one the 760 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,399 Speaker 1: episode is over. You close your eyes and you set 761 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 1: that intention. It really is just asking from your heart 762 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 1: that you connect with either your loved one or your 763 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 1: spirit guide or inspirers that are in the unseen world 764 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,840 Speaker 1: who love you unconditionally. You set that little prayer of 765 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 1: intention and just set it aside. And what I like 766 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 1: to do is imagine that there's this golden light inside 767 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,760 Speaker 1: and as the light grows and gets brighter, just imagine 768 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 1: it pouring out of your pores and just filling the 769 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,240 Speaker 1: entire room. What my instructor said at the Arthur Findly 770 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 1: College was to imagine a very bright blue light off 771 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 1: in the distance, and this can be the light of 772 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 1: the universe of God, whoever your higher power is that 773 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 1: is just overlooking everything, and to invite in your spirit guides. 774 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 1: And for me, I would imagine these golden lights that 775 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,720 Speaker 1: would just come in and settle in in the space 776 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: around me, getting closer and closer and closer, and just 777 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 1: let their lights blend with your lights, and you can say, 778 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 1: if there is anything you want to tell me, I'm 779 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 1: here to receive anything you want to show me, any 780 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,799 Speaker 1: messages you have for me. But the important thing is 781 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 1: to just quiet your mind, pay attention to your breathing, 782 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,439 Speaker 1: and just let go. And you may find doing this 783 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:11,279 Speaker 1: there's thoughts that come in, words that come in pictures 784 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,239 Speaker 1: that come into your mind, and as easy as it 785 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,200 Speaker 1: is to try to latch onto them and think about them, 786 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,279 Speaker 1: that turns off the flow of communication. So just let 787 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 1: them come in and let them go. And when you're done, 788 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,919 Speaker 1: you can simply open your eyes and you could write 789 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 1: down in your journal what you experienced. Pay attention to 790 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 1: your feelings. There could be feelings of love that come in. Now, 791 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 1: if you want to work with your loved one, you 792 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 1: do the same thing. You set that intention. But what 793 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 1: I find is most helpful is, yes, you can imagine 794 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 1: them walking into your area of light, but also remember 795 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 1: some of the great times you've had together, the loving times. 796 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 1: Ignite feeling of love that you had together. And then 797 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,399 Speaker 1: just sit there in the silence. You may find that 798 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,759 Speaker 1: there's images and more memories that come in. You may 799 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,480 Speaker 1: feel a hug, you may feel the goose bumps. You 800 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 1: may feel a little kiss on your cheek or on 801 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,759 Speaker 1: your forehead or on the top of your head. This 802 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,400 Speaker 1: all takes time and it takes practice. Remember, just like 803 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 1: building a muscle. Another thing that I think you really 804 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 1: enjoy doing is set the intention, just like we did 805 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,640 Speaker 1: for either the loved one or for your spirit guides. 806 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 1: But have a piece of paper or a notebook, your 807 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 1: journal andy, and maybe you have a question you have 808 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:44,799 Speaker 1: for them. After you sit for a while, let your 809 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 1: hand start writing. There will be some words that come 810 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,480 Speaker 1: into your mind. And if no words show up, you 811 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,680 Speaker 1: can start the ball rolling by writing down some words. 812 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 1: But then just listen in to what words come from 813 00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,160 Speaker 1: your soul and write them as you hear them, and 814 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:05,160 Speaker 1: you may just find what I found is that after 815 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 1: you write them all out and read them, they are 816 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,880 Speaker 1: some pretty profound words. If you have the intention of 817 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 1: working with your loved one, same thing, talk to them, 818 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:19,399 Speaker 1: imagine their love and right again in the beginning, could 819 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,279 Speaker 1: you one percent them? But The more you practice and 820 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:28,360 Speaker 1: the more you sit, the more experiences you'll have of 821 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 1: this connection. I want to let you in on a 822 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,920 Speaker 1: little secret. You don't have to just do this with 823 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,479 Speaker 1: your eyes closed. The more you close your eyes and sit, 824 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,920 Speaker 1: the more it charges a battery between here and the 825 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,360 Speaker 1: unseen world. But during the day, keep your mind in 826 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 1: the present moment as best possible. Try not to be 827 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,440 Speaker 1: distracted by thoughts. Stay in the present moment to whatever 828 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 1: it is you're doing, and don't be surprised if some 829 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:59,839 Speaker 1: ideas come to your mind, some words, and remember they're 830 00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,480 Speaker 1: going to sound like your voice, that is the voice 831 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:08,279 Speaker 1: of the unseen world. If you're interested in exploring this more, 832 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,279 Speaker 1: I was at the Arthur Findlay College in June of 833 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:15,799 Speaker 1: two thousand and eighteen, and I found in our Facebook 834 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:21,239 Speaker 1: group seven videos of what was experienced, so you can 835 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 1: follow along and you can do all of the exercises. 836 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 1: If you're not part of our Facebook group yet, go 837 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 1: to We Don't Die dot com. The top of the 838 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:35,239 Speaker 1: page says Facebook group, Join it. Once you're in it. 839 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,880 Speaker 1: Just beneath where it says recent media, you can click 840 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,880 Speaker 1: on see all, then click on videos, and then scroll 841 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,439 Speaker 1: to the bottom I have really long hair in these videos, 842 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,759 Speaker 1: and so you'll see me with the long hair and 843 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,719 Speaker 1: also with my eyes closed, and you'll see those of 844 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,759 Speaker 1: the videos from June two thousand and eighteen. You may 845 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,720 Speaker 1: also want to go to Amazon and type in Tony 846 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,960 Speaker 1: Stockwell Spirit Guide. He's got a great audio download that 847 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,800 Speaker 1: you can get and he also has a great trance 848 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 1: c D. Also, every Friday you can witness Scott Milligan 849 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,920 Speaker 1: doing this tramp speaking and also join him and myself 850 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,360 Speaker 1: on one of our live classes that happen every week. 851 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,279 Speaker 1: And of course we have our free Sunday gathering with 852 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:27,080 Speaker 1: a medium demonstration online. If you need more details and 853 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 1: you can't find them that we Don't Die dot com, 854 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 1: just send me an email Sandra Champlaine at gmail dot com. 855 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 1: I just want to remind you that around you is 856 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 1: so much unseen love from your loved ones, from your guides, 857 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 1: and you have a very divine soul working on your 858 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 1: behalf also, so let's all just build that relationship with 859 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,480 Speaker 1: those that love us, that are right next to us. 860 00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,080 Speaker 1: I want to thank you for listening and we'll talk 861 00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 1: again soon. You've been listening to Shades of the Afterlife 862 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,279 Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a 863 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:18,719 Speaker 1: M paranormal podcast network. And if you like this episode 864 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,040 Speaker 1: of Shades of the Afterlife, wait until you hear the 865 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 1: next one. Thank you for listening to the Heart Radio 866 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,000 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast, a M paranormal podcast network,