WEBVTT - One on One: Elisabeth Abbott 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.720 I am all In. 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:20.640 I Am all in with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:23.960 Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I'm all in podcast, one on 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:28.360 one Interview, one eleven productions. iHeartRadio, iHeart Media, iHeart Podcasts. 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:35.839 I'm joined by Susanne French. Hello Suzanne, and we are 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:39.560 gonna talk to Elizabeth Abbott. Elizabeth, thank you so much 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:41.919 for joining us. Let me get into a little bit 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:45.440 of who you are and what you're about. You portrayed 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:49.440 Rosemary four episodes and Rosemary is one of the ladies 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:52.040 who hangs out with Finn Life of Death Brigade. You 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:56.400 were an actress for best known for this role and 0:00:56.440 --> 0:00:59.120 also for making a few TV appearances Young and Restless 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:02.080 and I Carly no longer acting. But you're a licensed 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:05.800 marriage and Family therapist, a master level psychotherapist who work 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:10.680 with adults and teens who are dealing with mental health issues, relationships, 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:16.319 or life transitions. How fascinating. Welcome to the podcast. So 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:20.200 great to have you, Elizabeth. First off, tell us how 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:22.679 you first got the role on Gilmore. 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:25.560 Well, first of all, thank you for having me. This 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:32.240 is really fun. So I had been in LA for 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:35.840 just a couple of years, and had done a bunch 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:39.400 of commercials and had an agent and a manager, and 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:43.800 we were just, you know, grinding all the auditions as 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:49.600 one does. And when the audition for Gilmore Girls just 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:53.160 came up, and I wanted it so badly, and I 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:55.440 had to act so cool, like I didn't want it 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:58.920 that badly, but I really wanted it. Was it ended 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:00.280 up being my first TV job. 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:03.640 You were smart. You were smart, Sorry, but you were 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:07.000 smart to act that like you didn't want it. Yeah, 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:12.040 because that shows that you understand the psychology in that 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:14.560 that works against you if you want it too badly. 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:17.360 Exactly. I played it. I played it so cool. 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:21.280 So you were already familiar with the show when you auditioned. 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:25.000 I was. I was a fan of the show. It 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:31.919 had debuted when I was in college, and my my 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:35.880 mom is a single mom, divorced mom. I'm an only daughter, 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:40.320 and so it's sort of it was sort of our show. 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:44.720 She would this like dates me, but she would tape 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:49.120 the episodes on VHS tapes and either mail them to 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:53.920 me at college or or she just saved them up 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:55.959 for when we had watched together when I would be 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:56.360 at home. 0:02:56.440 --> 0:03:02.640 So yeah, yeah, that's fantastic. Did you know that it 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:04.919 would be a recurring role when you when you booked 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:05.640 that first one. 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:10.160 Nope, Uh, it was supposed to be just a co star, 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:14.480 and then they just the next one was a guest star, 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:17.160 and they just kept bringing us back. And I felt like, 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:20.360 you know, I won the latto every time because it 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:21.240 was unexpected. 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:25.800 But yeah, so what was it like working with Alexis Bdell? 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:33.360 Alexis was lovely. I was so nervous that the first uh, 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:37.520 I mean the first scene that we filmed was in 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:42.760 the Chinese restaurant. I don't know if you remember, but uh, 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:48.360 and it was Alexis and Matt Zukri and Alan and 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:53.920 Tank and his name was Wayne I think, who played Marty, 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:56.440 and of course Ricky Lyndholm. Ricky and I were always together, 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:03.880 and uh, they had all filmed, I mean so much together, 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:07.440 and I was, you know, I was really nervous that 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:10.760 we wouldn't get in and click right away. But Alexis 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:16.240 and Matt and all the guys were so welcoming right 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:19.200 off the bat and made us feel right at home, 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:20.680 and you know, it started clicking. 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:21.560 Mm hm. 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.520 Yes, Finn was always trying to get with your character 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:26.400 wasn't he he was. 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:30.320 There was a there was a point where I think 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:33.599 I was like, not that too, not too opposed to 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:34.200 it as well. 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:38.920 So when was the last time you watched an actual episode? 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:45.440 Well, I revisited an episode last night in preparation for 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:47.880 this because I hadn't I hadn't seen it in quite 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:50.880 a while, and I was like, what what was that? 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:51.200 Like? 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:55.720 It's really fun, it's really fun to watch. 0:04:55.760 --> 0:05:00.320 And remember, do you get recognized for role? 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:04.960 I don't get recognized, you know, randomly on the street, 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:08.640 but in the work that I do now as a therapist. 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:14.000 So many people have this show as their comfort show 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:16.640 that they watch over and over again. And a lot 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:18.919 of what we do is we talk about resources, you know, 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:21.440 the things in your life that make you feel a 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:25.440 little bit safer, a little bit calmer. And so people 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:29.720 are always coming. So I was rewatching Gilmore Girls, and 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:32.120 is there something you want to tell me? 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:35.040 Right right, right right? 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:37.560 You know, I had one client several years ago who 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:42.040 was mad that they hadn't known beforehand. So now if 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:45.160 I have a new client who mentions that they like 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:47.880 the show, I say, okay, don't be weirded out. But 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:50.000 you know, season's five and six are going to see 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:53.760 me pomp up. We can talk about it. 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:57.640 Or not whatever, but yeah, that's fascinating. We're going to 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:00.000 talk a little bit more about what you do now 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:03.000 a little bit later on the interview. But that's that's 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:06.200 I have a lot of stories about that as well. Yeah, 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:13.760 when I meet people. Yeah, so did you lie? Did 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:16.159 you see the episodes in Netflix? The episodes? Do you 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:18.560 like how they brought the Life and Death Brigade back? 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:19.839 Oh? 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:25.239 The new ones? I have to admit I didn't watch them. 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:29.520 I haven't watched them yet because I don't know if 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:34.479 I loved my experience in seasons five and six so 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:36.360 much that I just kind of I kind of wanted 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:40.480 to let it be what it was. Sure, maybe I'll 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:41.000 go back now. 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:45.200 And you did a few more TV gigs with Young 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:48.320 and the rest as I Carly, When did you decide 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:49.200 to leave acting? 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:54.880 I had, you know, as an actor, there's a lot 0:06:54.920 --> 0:07:00.800 of downtime. It's incredible when you're working or when you're auditioning. 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:03.920 But I had a lot of time where I needed 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:07.160 I felt like I needed something a little bit more. So. 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:11.720 I had gone back to grad school, was doing that 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:16.480 on nights and weekends just for the sort of education 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.560 of it. And I had also had a lot of therapy. 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:22.400 You need a lot of therapy when you're an actress 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:26.920 in your twenties in Los Angeles. And I just loved 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:29.560 going to her office every week so much that I 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:33.360 was like, I maybe I can do this. So I 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:36.280 tried to stuggle both for a while. I was doing 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:39.920 both for a while, and then there came a point 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:45.080 where I just had to, you know, fully commit to 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:49.040 building a private practice, and you know, I found it 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:50.120 really really fulfilling. 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:53.720 Was there was there a moment for you that you 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:57.720 recall that were you made that decision to leave acting. 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:01.040 Was it a specific incident, was it just a moment 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:01.800 that you remember. 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:06.320 I don't know if I ever made the decision to 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:12.160 leave acting, Like, honestly, if something came along now, I 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:16.160 would love to to, you know, I'd love to act again. 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:19.960 So I feel like it was less leaving acting and 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:27.440 more finding psychotherapy, finding this other passion right and. 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:32.839 And and why you say you were in therapy. You 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:37.800 sought out therapy in your twenties being an actress in 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:41.440 LA Why did you seek therapy If I'm not getting 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:44.000 too personal if you want to talk about it, know that. 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:47.000 I mean I'm biased. I think that everyone should have 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:48.560 stuff to work out in therapy. 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:48.920 Yeah. 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:51.559 Actually I actually feel the same way. I think everybody 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:53.840 can benefit from therapy absolutely. 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:56.800 You know, it was it was a time of a 0:08:56.920 --> 0:08:59.920 lot of changes, a lot of transitions, also coping with 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.920 all the stuff that you know, actors and artists go through, 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:09.200 you know, the rejection and the procrastination, and the sort 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:12.200 of financial ups and downs and the effect on your 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:14.839 relationships and all those things. And it was so. 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:17.640 It's a lot. 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:25.080 And I just it felt so well. And you know, 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:29.480 there's always like family of origin stuff as well. You know, 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:33.720 we've all got our stuff. So it was just such 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:40.880 an enormously healing and supportive space for me. For several 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:45.600 years there, I kind of wanted to kind of wanted 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:50.400 to create my own space to be able to do 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:51.320 that for other people. 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:54.320 All Right, So you get your bachelor's in science and 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:59.760 your master's in psychology. When did your interest in mental 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:02.360 health begin? Was it when you were getting into therapy? 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:03.240 Before that? 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:07.600 I think, well, I had always been a theater kid, 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:12.760 and you know, you know, I was a journalism major 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:15.800 in college, but I was also in this three year 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:19.160 acting class and did theater in college and things like that, 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:30.560 and acting and psychology are not at all, not at 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:34.320 all different. I mean, the way that you know I 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:38.520 was taught and I learned to approach a character as 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:41.000 an actor is very much what we do. You know, 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:45.319 you're you're thinking about why this character is the way 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:48.400 that they are, What has happened in their life that 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:52.320 makes them the way that they are, and that way 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:57.120 of thinking. Also just the listening and being with someone 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:01.920 and connecting and all of those things. It was such 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:08.040 a natural, kind of organic transition that I found myself always, 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:13.240 you know, already thinking that way through the acting training. 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:16.920 Yes, in the training that you draw up a psychological 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:18.920 probi file for your character. You fill it out in 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:23.079 detail if you can. Here's a question for you, and 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:27.719 it's a personal question because I've experienced this. I'm sure 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:33.720 you've experienced every actor experiences this. How do you take 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:39.200 on the persona or the psychology of another character the 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:42.440 day ends, you go home? What do you do to 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:47.040 flush your brain out and to flush your soul? What 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:50.120 is what are the best techniques that you have found 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:54.400 to help people do that? Is it meditation, Is it 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:56.240 taking a hot bath? What is it? 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:01.760 For me? It was always had to get back into 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:07.000 my body, into my physicality, and you know the hot shower, 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:13.520 sure movement of some kind. And then also you know, 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:19.560 connecting with the people who I love in my life, 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:22.280 you know, having a partner or a friend to come 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:32.160 home to and debrief at the end of the day. 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:38.000 So what happens to the actor that is isolated away 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:44.480 from their family, playing a hugely demanding role emotionally speaking, 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:46.720 and then comes home to an empty condo? 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:50.240 I mean, that's what what what weren't. 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:55.800 What kind of uh, what kind of issues would that 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:59.280 actor or actress be dealing with if they were doing 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:00.240 that over the film home? 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:00.560 Shoot? 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:04.280 Oh god, what would they be facing? What dangers could 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:06.959 they be facing? I mean, can it get dangerous? Can 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:09.439 it get you know, really impairing. 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:18.400 I'm sure it could get really dangerous. Loneliness is I 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:23.880 feel like the artist is lonely. A lot of the time, 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:27.160 it seemed. Loneliness seems to be whether it's somebody who's 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:29.840 out of town working on something, or even you know, 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:34.520 in a cast of other people. That's one of the 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:37.960 things that keeps coming up over and over again when 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:43.960 I'm working with actors and artists. So for me, it's 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:52.560 about building a community of supportive, present individuals, whether that's 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:57.960 through face time, calls back home, or whether that's debriefing 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:00.440 with your you know, with your cast made, with your 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:04.559 scene partner, taking the time to I mean it's if 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:07.280 you're working on something out of town, it's an exhausting, 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:10.960 you know, twelve sixteen hour day, maybe it's been a 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:14.959 night shoot. You're exhausted. But taking the time to, you know, 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:17.960 debrief with someone, with the people you've been working with 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:22.960 over dinner or breakfast or whatever it is afterwards, that 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:27.640 connection and support I think can be really essential, right. 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:31.320 Is So what's your perspective on the psychological aspects of 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:35.080 the the laurel I and Rory relationship? 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:46.160 Oh, let's un back it. Yeah, mother daughter relationships are complex, 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:53.040 I think, kind of almost universally complex. There can be 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:59.560 the most love and support and understanding, and also mothers 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:05.240 and daughter push each other's buttons like nobody else. 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:14.600 Would you think that Lorelei and Rory could have benefited 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:20.800 from some therapy individual or group therapy together? And if so, 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:22.360 what do you think their issues are? 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:29.840 I think Lorelei and Rory would have loved therapy, you 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:32.720 know they they would with all the fast talking, they 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:36.040 would make that fifty minutes last. They really would get 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:36.640 a lot. 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:36.960 Out of it. 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:40.760 There's the spinoff right there. Lorelei and Rory go to therapy. 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:46.200 Oh my gosh, Amy call me. Yeah, No, I mean 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:51.360 we're talking intergenerational trauma when we bring Emily into it, 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:58.200 all of these expectations and bucking the expectation, and each 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:01.920 generation wanting to be their own person, but also really 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:06.560 wanting and needing the approval of their mother. Again, all 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:07.840 the generations. 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:12.600 Yeah, do you think do you think laurel I smothered Rory? 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:18.160 Do I think she? I don't think she smothered Rory. 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:25.800 It seemed to be a pretty mutual relationship for most 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:30.000 of it. They really went through it when you know, 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:33.080 Rory was going through it on her own during the 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:40.800 during the Yale seasons. But they were able always to repair. 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:45.480 And again that's the most important part, right. It's not 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:48.560 about whether we're talking about a mother daughter relationship or 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:53.080 we're talking about, you know, a romantic partnership. It's not 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:56.920 about do you have conflict do you fight? Right, It's 0:16:56.960 --> 0:17:00.960 about how do you repair Do you turn away from 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:03.040 each other or do you turn toward each other? 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:07.760 Right? Right, right? Right? What do you think about the 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:12.680 Rory Logan relationship and Rory losing somewhat of her personality 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:17.320 within that relationship and being in you know, very murky 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:20.399 deep waters with that relationship. To talk about that a 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:23.360 little bit, Why is she in that relationship? 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:27.360 Why is she in that relationship? I mean, look, as 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:30.800 a fan, I was always team Jess. I'm going to 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:37.440 be honest, but Matzi Freeze so lovely. I can absolutely 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:41.040 see how everyone has fallen for a Logan, including Rory. 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:48.439 But I I kind of think that if whether or 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:53.680 not there was a Logan, I think Rory was kind 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:59.480 of destined to lose her you know what, during college anyway. 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:05.560 It was such a massive change for her, being in 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:09.960 an environment with with a lot of folks, a very 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:13.879 different background, being away from her mother, and this you know, 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:17.239 sort of magical talent that she had had grown up 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:22.119 in trying to find her place there no longer being 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:28.760 the best at everything. Boy, that's a really really common thing, right. 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:33.400 For the right everybody's gifted here. 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:39.160 I think, yeah, I think I think she was gonna 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:43.040 need to act out a little bit in order to 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:45.639 find who the heck she was. 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:50.920 Going back to your own experience, do you have any 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:55.520 like good stories or your favorite memories from being on set, 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:58.320 Like any moments that really stood out to you from 0:18:58.400 --> 0:18:59.560 the episodes that you were in. 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:04.240 I mean, every time hanging out with the guys, the 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:07.880 Life and Death Brigade guys, and Ricky of course, who 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:13.120 played Juliette. We just had so much fun. It was 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:16.800 I mean, of course it was my first TV job. 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:18.840 Prussia was on You've got to talk very fast, it 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:21.080 had to be dead letter perfect, all of those things. 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:25.719 But hanging out with that crew, it was a party. 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:29.160 It was a party every time. And at least two 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:34.439 of the episodes they were night shoots, and I remember 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:37.320 during one of them, somebody had set up a karaoke 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:42.959 machine off the set, and so people were just getting 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:47.240 silly and in the middle of the night, and it 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:49.120 was just a really, really fun environment. 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:55.600 Yeah, that's great. Okay, back to the psychology. Do you 0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:59.760 think that do you think Emily damaged? 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:10.840 Damage is a really loaded word. I think that she 0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:19.359 had incredibly specific and high expectations and Laura I wanted 0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:23.879 something different and neither one of them could meet in 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:27.040 the middle. Do I think there's trauma there between the 0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:31.400 two of them, Absolutely, just like there is between Laura, 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:36.919 l I and Rory and Emily and Rory, and do 0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:42.720 I think gets unsalvageable? Absolutely not. Man, if those two 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:49.440 would have just talked a little bit, you know again, 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:52.080 I'm just pushing therapy. It's such a pusher. But if 0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:58.040 they had gotten into it, into an office where Emily 0:20:58.080 --> 0:21:03.160 didn't hold the sort of ultimate status and they could 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:09.080 just talk with each other like humans, like mothers, I 0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:10.439 don't know, things might have been different. 0:21:11.160 --> 0:21:13.760 Where do you practice you practice in La or where 0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:15.000 do you practice in La? 0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:19.400 I see clients all across California, But I live in Burbank, 0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:23.160 and before I went telehealth just a few months ago, 0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:27.520 my office was on Riverside Drive, looking right over the 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:28.280 Warner Bros. 0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:28.560 Lot. 0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:29.800 Can't escape that lot. 0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:43.960 We're going to play a little game called rapid fire. 0:21:44.040 --> 0:21:47.320 Doesn't mean you have to answer the questions quickly. Uh, 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:49.800 We'll just called it rapid fire. How do you like 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:51.320 your coffee, Elizabeth? 0:21:52.200 --> 0:21:57.359 I like with oat milk and a lot of it, 0:21:57.520 --> 0:21:58.320 really a lot of it. 0:21:58.640 --> 0:22:02.400 Okay, are you what we already answered this one your team? 0:22:02.560 --> 0:22:06.320 Just who is your favorite Gilmore girls couple? Luke and 0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:08.119 Laurel I or Emily and Richard? 0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:17.000 Oh gosh, so different? So different? Is it really insulting 0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:20.000 if I? If I choose Emily and Richard, they're just 0:22:20.119 --> 0:22:20.520 such a. 0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:24.199 Delight personally insulting If it feels like you're attacking me, 0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:29.240 I'm stunned. What about Luke and Laurel? I talk about 0:22:29.320 --> 0:22:30.720 Luke and Laurel I a little bit? 0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:32.000 Why? 0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:34.560 Why? Go ahead? Sorry, go ahead? 0:22:34.920 --> 0:22:37.679 Talk about a couple who needed to talk and to 0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:45.160 improve their communications skill, such a such love and such support, 0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:47.879 and every time it went wrong it was because of 0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:51.919 something that could have been sorted out with just a 0:22:51.920 --> 0:22:54.520 little bit of a little bit of communication. 0:22:55.040 --> 0:22:59.320 Yeah, he wasn't famous for his communication skills, and nor 0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:00.880 was she, but I think she was a little better 0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:03.159 at it a little. 0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:05.639 But also, you know, she had a lot of pride. 0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:08.199 She was at Gilmour after all, a lot of pride. 0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:13.960 Right, Okay, would you rather work with Michelle or Kirk? 0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:18.520 Well, they're both so efficient in their own ways. I 0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:21.040 but I think Michelle and I would really would really 0:23:21.040 --> 0:23:21.520 get along. 0:23:21.920 --> 0:23:25.840 Really. Yeah, Well, why do you why Michelle. 0:23:27.080 --> 0:23:30.560 He makes me laugh every time he comes on screen, 0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:34.159 so I imagine, but he would do the same in an 0:23:34.160 --> 0:23:35.000 office environment. 0:23:35.960 --> 0:23:37.920 What would you order at Luke Steiner? 0:23:39.800 --> 0:23:42.800 Coffee of course, and more coffee. 0:23:45.080 --> 0:23:49.160 Who would you rather hang out with? Paris or Lane? 0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:52.919 I would probably want to go to the rock Show. 0:23:52.960 --> 0:23:57.719 With Lane, but didn't have Paris as a patient. 0:24:01.240 --> 0:24:05.280 Paris would be a difficult patient because she would really 0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:07.520 want to control the whole session. But here's the thing. 0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:10.360 I got a little bit of Paris in me too, 0:24:10.400 --> 0:24:13.160 so maybe we would be fast friends. Is that right? 0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:15.679 But what part of Paris do you have in you? 0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:17.160 What part would that be? 0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:20.440 I mean, I really like things the way that I 0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:28.800 like things. I have learned to be so much more flexible. Right. 0:24:29.240 --> 0:24:31.400 Are you happier as a result of that? 0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:33.240 Absolutely? 0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:37.960 Yeah? Harvard or Yale or drop out and live in the. 0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:42.639 Poolhouse Northwestern University? 0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:45.440 There you go? Is that where you went? 0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:46.560 I went? 0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:46.840 Yeah? 0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:53.240 I would you rather attend a daar event with Emily 0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:55.360 or a town meeting with Taylor? 0:24:56.200 --> 0:24:57.160 Town meeting one? 0:25:00.440 --> 0:25:04.119 You must like to sweat for fourteen solid hours and 0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:05.719 winter clothes in summer. 0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:09.080 Oh, you got to remember, I was always part of 0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:11.520 the Yale crew. I never got to visit Stars Hollow 0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:13.120 never so sad. 0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:20.680 Yeah, Gilmore Girl's character you would want as a roommate. 0:25:23.920 --> 0:25:29.080 Paris really very clean, yes really yeah, would keep things 0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:31.240 very clean and orderly. And you know what she is 0:25:31.320 --> 0:25:34.920 a ride or die. She will have your. 0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:40.720 Back, huh something in your life. You are all in. 0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:42.240 On m. 0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:49.880 My family they're great. I really like them, and also 0:25:49.960 --> 0:25:54.440 my private practice. I also really not in a weird way, 0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:57.159 but I really love and respect and admire all of 0:25:57.200 --> 0:25:58.159 my clients. 0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:04.280 Okay, so how would prospective patients get in touch? 0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:08.600 They can get in touch through my website which is 0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:13.800 fulfillinglifetherapy dot com and I'm on you know, Instagram and 0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:17.640 TikTok talking about mental health a little bit, so they 0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:19.800 can look me up on my on not too. 0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:25.719 Excellent, Elizabeth. It has been an intense pleasure talking to you. 0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:27.200 Good luck with your practice. 0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:28.119 Thank you. 0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:32.360 Yeah, maybe we'll see you back on the boards as 0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:37.879 it were, inhabiting another role. But it was a pleasure 0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:39.400